Understanding The Helter Skelter Phenomenon

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    INFO: When The Beatles released their self-titled album aka «The White Album» on 22nd of November 1968, they knew very little about how a certain man would interpret the lyrics on the album. Blackbird, Piggies and Helter Skelter were all songs that Charles Manson interpreted as a grandiose message, telling him about a larger-than-life prophesy. In his eyes, The Beatles were The 4 Horsemen of The Apocalypse written about in the bible. In his ears, Helter Skelter was a song about the fall of man. About a coming race war. The guy was out of his mind, there’s no doubt about that. Inspired by the song, he and his group set out to initiate the apocalypse, killing 5 people in the process. On the other hand, the song itself had nothing to do with a possible apocalypse. The song was made with the intention of making the heaviest song in contemporary music. But as time
    passed by, both the term and the song was preserved in music history.

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  • @LieLikesMusic
    @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +436

    What band/artist should be next? 🎤🤘

  • @supertimerip
    @supertimerip Před 5 lety +2249

    Melody Maker: "I Can See For Miles" is The Who's dirtiest song.
    Paul McCartney: Hold my beer.

    • @luismarioguerrerosanchez4747
      @luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 Před 5 lety +72

      Pete Townshend didn't say that, the press did; and McCartney wrote Helter Skelter withiut even listen to I Can See For Miles and what it was about.

    • @supertimerip
      @supertimerip Před 5 lety +37

      Luis Mario Guerrero Sánchez I gotcha. I was just making a dumb joke lol.

    • @luismarioguerrerosanchez4747
      @luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 Před 5 lety +4

      +Johnny (TimeRip) LOL

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +51

      I think McCartney would've been cocky enough to be that in real life tho.

    • @supertimerip
      @supertimerip Před 5 lety +2

      Lie Likes Music True

  • @nico-ke1nn
    @nico-ke1nn Před 5 lety +362

    *_IVE GOT BLISTERS ON ME FINGAHS_*

    • @welsh_Witch
      @welsh_Witch Před 3 lety +1

      Good old ringo

    • @welsh_Witch
      @welsh_Witch Před 3 lety +1

      @Orange Juice it's the most common comment made about this song on CZcams so he didnt steal the comment

  • @TankAssTanner
    @TankAssTanner Před 5 lety +668

    I wish that Paul McCartney/the Beatles really explored this sound more. McCartney really had a good voice when pushing it like this. I can't imagine hearing this song for the first time back in the 60s.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +74

      Me neither. That must've been a cerebral time to live in. When really heavy music started to break though. Black Sabbath,
      Led Zeppelin, Blue Cheer etc. McCartney definitely should've gone more for this style. I think that would've been great!

    • @ArniePorter
      @ArniePorter Před 3 lety +23

      Check out Monkberry Moon Delight off of Ram.

    • @heatherwolmarans8287
      @heatherwolmarans8287 Před 2 lety +5

      I was born in 1964, the best time to be alive.

    • @cluggyahoo
      @cluggyahoo Před 2 lety +2

      @@heatherwolmarans8287 Same here

    • @josevivar5157
      @josevivar5157 Před 2 lety +7

      Paul is by far BEST Rock singer all time

  • @Josh-os7vn
    @Josh-os7vn Před 5 lety +1485

    *I'VE GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS!*

  • @calebb.56
    @calebb.56 Před 5 lety +1720

    6:40
    "It was just a noise."
    Says the guy who married Yoko Ono.

  • @fabulosopapi
    @fabulosopapi Před 5 lety +748

    This is one of those songs where you listen for the first time and something in you changes

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +42

      Yes that's exactly what happened to me!

    • @tomassheva
      @tomassheva Před 5 lety +3

      what u mean?

    • @thegirlinquestion
      @thegirlinquestion Před 5 lety +27

      if you have to ask, then you'll never understand

    • @cdreyes81
      @cdreyes81 Před 5 lety +18

      yeah i remember. it made me think, wtf beatles, i don't have anymore mind left to blow

    • @spacecorgi3074
      @spacecorgi3074 Před 5 lety +1

      Ahah, I think because someone *can* ask, it kinda blows FRF's theory out of the water.

  • @simongonzales7877
    @simongonzales7877 Před 5 lety +857

    DUDE I NEED TO HEAR THE FULL 27 MINUTE VERSION. It exists somewhere. i need it.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +153

      Yes it would be great to hear that. A long, progressive jam by The Beatles. You rarely see that around.

    • @matthatter2849
      @matthatter2849 Před 5 lety +92

      One thing about that 27 min. version though. It's NOT the full on heavy metal version from the album. The 27 min. version was recorded around July 18, 1968 while the version we know on the album was recorded on Sept. 9, 1968. The earlier version is much more prodding and bluesy. The version on "Anthology 3" is what is sounded like.

    • @BBINGHAM032352
      @BBINGHAM032352 Před 5 lety +62

      You'll have blisters on your eardrums!

    • @rubentongiani6198
      @rubentongiani6198 Před 5 lety

      Yeah, me too xdd

    • @eyezodiotic3197
      @eyezodiotic3197 Před 5 lety +11

      there’s a twelve minute version in their channel
      It’s really bluesy I must say

  • @7BD273
    @7BD273 Před 5 lety +360

    people mention lots of bands here that made "heavy" music before helter skelter. but helter skelter in my opinion is on a whole other level. the vocals, the bass, the drums and the guitars are ALL exceptional. and that's what makes helter skelter so big. every part, every instrument is on 110%. it's extraordinary in every sense of the word.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +23

      I'm glad you see that. You can definitely hear that they put a lot of intention into the heaviness in of itself.

    • @RobertoGinsburg
      @RobertoGinsburg Před 5 lety +5

      *Listen "Psycho" by THE SONICS (1966) and "SUMMERTIME BLUES" BY BLUE CHEER (early 1968):* "Helter Skelter" is Sesame Street

    • @reborn3288
      @reborn3288 Před 5 lety +8

      Helter Skelter was very raw like CCR or Nirvana

    • @constantheadache2045
      @constantheadache2045 Před 4 lety +12

      Robert Funke I haven’t heard “Psycho” but I’ll check it out tho. But Summertime Blues is not as heavy as Helter Skelter.

    • @oui2611
      @oui2611 Před rokem +5

      @@RobertoGinsburg have you even heard helter sketer? it doesnt compare to those two songs you mentioned

  • @davidreynolds4942
    @davidreynolds4942 Před 5 lety +708

    Understanding Why My Dad Left Me

  • @Britton_Thompson
    @Britton_Thompson Před 5 lety +721

    'Helter Skelter' doesn't sound like the first metal song ever recorded as much as I'd say it sounds like the first punk rock song ever recorded.

    • @daft_punker
      @daft_punker Před 4 lety +36

      "Sister Ray" by The Velvet Underground came out first. It's A LOT stronger than this. Revolutionary

    • @mudhen24
      @mudhen24 Před 4 lety +38

      Andres a lot stronger than this? I certainly have to disagree, it’s a good song though.

    • @christiancevallos9820
      @christiancevallos9820 Před 4 lety +6

      Is give it metal cause it gives that head bang feeling and that those high notes are insane

    • @kaiser7695
      @kaiser7695 Před 4 lety +28

      It’s not metal, it’s a million times closer to grunge or punk rock. When you listen to Black Sabbath and Helter Skelter it’s completely different.

    • @CarlosVelasquez-ns6xr
      @CarlosVelasquez-ns6xr Před 3 lety +29

      @@kaiser7695 Paranoid and Helter Skelter are extremely similar, only Paul's vocals are definitely heavier than Ozzy's, is a fact.

  • @jpegmilitia
    @jpegmilitia Před 5 lety +112

    *I GOT BLISTAS ON MAH FINGAS!!*

  • @rhubarbecue3628
    @rhubarbecue3628 Před 5 lety +70

    Everyone in the comment section angers me with their opinions on “who started metal music.” Personally, I don’t think anyone “invented” it - things like that just happen through influences and experimenting.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +9

      Who took the biggest step in experimenting though? Haha. I think questions like these are interesting.
      I do get your point though. What's the matter at the end of the day? Things happen.

  • @georgezalokostas6980
    @georgezalokostas6980 Před 5 lety +388

    Understanding The Doors

  • @obnoxiousoboe
    @obnoxiousoboe Před 5 lety +466

    Understanding the Beatles' White Album (itself).

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +27

      Ouh that would be interesting. Thanks for the request

    • @BBINGHAM032352
      @BBINGHAM032352 Před 5 lety +8

      I've been listening the album since December 1968 when I was 16 years old.

    • @KhayJayArt
      @KhayJayArt Před 5 lety +8

      Paul said Blackbird was inspired by the Civil rights movement. It was a song about a Black girl dealing with racism.

    • @nochannelmusician769
      @nochannelmusician769 Před 5 lety +1

      Oh man, The White Album is a very mighty beast! Do you think that Lie Likes Music is up for the challenge?

    • @Beatles__
      @Beatles__ Před 5 lety +5

      1 word: clusterfuck

  • @timber6719
    @timber6719 Před 5 lety +45

    I personally think "Revolution" is closer to heavy metal and the last three minutes of "I Want You" (She's So Heavy) clearly predicts Black Sabbath. However, The Beatles have a number of influential songs that influenced heavy metal from "I Feel Fine" to "It's All to Much". It was just a progression and "Helter Skelter" to many was the big bang of heavy metal because it combined all the elements.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +1

      I'm glad you see some of the points i tried to make. If i knew about those other songs, maybe i would've
      included them in the video. Thanks for sharing and adding value.

    • @kingeddiam2543
      @kingeddiam2543 Před 5 měsíci

      It's all too much is more psych rock in my view

  • @jamiewindsor
    @jamiewindsor Před 5 lety +256

    Even today in Britain the term 'Helter Skelter' is much more associated with the big slide before the Beatles song. The lyrics to the song seem pretty simplistic: a crazy whirlwind relationship with disorientating effects on the singer. It sounds like it's all about how this person is giving mixed messages and it's making the protagonist feel unsure of where they stand. Helter Skelter is literally used because it's a big slide that makes you feel dizzy. It's weird and kind of scary how differently something can be interpreted when someone projects a different cultural interpretation onto what is a fairly innocuous set of lyrics.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +10

      Yes it seems that's the main reaction i get from people in the UK that watch this video.
      And i guess what you said at the end best describes what this video is about. How you
      interpret lyrics differently depending on the culture. Here in Norway i've never seen a helter
      skelter slide. Not even at theme parks or playgrounds. The first time i saw it was when i did
      research for this video lol. Thanks for sharing your interpretation btw. And good luck with
      your channel.

    • @mindseyemelodies
      @mindseyemelodies Před 5 lety +4

      Yeah I kinda see the song as the musical equivalent of taking a fairground ride .

    • @TheSuperAldrich
      @TheSuperAldrich Před 3 lety

      Wow never expected to come across you here Jamie.
      Hope you’re well!

    • @TheSuperAldrich
      @TheSuperAldrich Před 3 lety

      @Fred 1 great, thanks for sharing!

    • @skyjuiceification
      @skyjuiceification Před 3 lety

      Someone wiser than u once said, all is metaphor.

  • @patriciapedrotti5350
    @patriciapedrotti5350 Před 5 lety +99

    I was listening to this song non stop for 3 days straight this week and the fact that you made a video about it terrifies me

  • @patrickchubey3127
    @patrickchubey3127 Před 5 lety +26

    I've heard this song about a million times and every time I play it, it's on way too loud and I'm thinking to myself, this is f*cking awesome.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +1

      I'm on that level too man. There's so much energy in that song, so you never really get tired of it.

  • @ev-sn7dh
    @ev-sn7dh Před 5 lety +174

    The white album is one of the best albums ever to exist, change my mind.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +21

      I'm not going to. I really dig it too, and i have a hard time picking my favorite Beatles albums anyways.

    • @magpiesmyth9200
      @magpiesmyth9200 Před 5 lety +12

      Number9number9number9number9number9number9number9number9number9number9number9number9number9...

    • @scorpiorising3741
      @scorpiorising3741 Před 5 lety +11

      Lots of filler as far as I'm concerned. Could have been a monster single album. I like Revolver the best, however this is just my humble opinion.

    • @JoelEmberson
      @JoelEmberson Před 5 lety +3

      piggies and honey pie are terrible.

    • @katchen2626
      @katchen2626 Před 5 lety +4

      lots of experiments by the beatles on that album

  • @skip2682
    @skip2682 Před 5 lety +64

    4:08 Pink Flord is my favorite band

  • @AntarblueGarneau
    @AntarblueGarneau Před 5 lety +691

    Cream and Hendrix were playing "heavy" before that

  • @discardmyfriends
    @discardmyfriends Před 5 lety +40

    Notice in the interview Paul refrains from name dropping The Who, pretty classy.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +6

      discardmyfriends He was talking about a different band there. He got the inspiration from several sources it seems.

  • @davidromulo9292
    @davidromulo9292 Před 5 lety +118

    You should do a video about "hurricane" from Bob Dylan

  • @CodyAlushin
    @CodyAlushin Před 5 lety +317

    That voice change threw me off!

    • @stitch2k1
      @stitch2k1 Před 5 lety +18

      I'm really confused still

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +22

      Lol i'll try to keep my guest voices to a minimum for consistency.

    • @stitch2k1
      @stitch2k1 Před 5 lety +11

      Nah it's not that, more that I didn't expect that from here.
      I rather like the idea, although an intro explaining might help, or something else.

    • @evilsexyhamlet6399
      @evilsexyhamlet6399 Před 5 lety +2

      It's buttery smooth tho

    • @CodyAlushin
      @CodyAlushin Před 5 lety

      TRUU

  • @clintonjosephcAMIELj
    @clintonjosephcAMIELj Před 5 lety +52

    Loaded with esoteric biblical references, HS paved the way for heavy metal. This song expanded the horizon of Rock n roll and inspired artists to explore the various landscapes of music in general. Absolute classic! And the video essay is great as always.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +3

      For sure. Thanks for resonating with this. I think this is especially the case with the Beatles because
      they had so much influence throughout their career. They were the biggest band in the world during the
      second half of the 60s.

  • @Sn3AKERH3AD13
    @Sn3AKERH3AD13 Před 5 lety +16

    I had never heard Helter skelter but damn lowkey they started some metal with how heavy it was for it’s time

  • @purpleduckybryn
    @purpleduckybryn Před 4 lety +202

    Charles Manson: Helter Skelter is about a race war
    2020: aight *b e t*

    • @astrofrk
      @astrofrk Před 3 lety +17

      Now, it almost seems prophetic.

    • @LeonelLAURE
      @LeonelLAURE Před 3 lety +5

      Exactly!

    • @eb3077
      @eb3077 Před 3 lety +4

      I was watching something on BLM & thought of Charles Mansons race war lol

    • @kusfhizjingjiongia4564
      @kusfhizjingjiongia4564 Před 3 lety +2

      its about a fricking slide

    • @skyjuiceification
      @skyjuiceification Před 3 lety

      In hindsight, it seems that ole Charles may have been a bit prophetic indeed in his droolings. who woulda thought that it would take Trump's election and a particularly obnoxious virus from god knows where to tip things over the edge and make Manson's vision more than merely the wild-eyed apocryphal ramblings of an unloved orphan with venereal disease? if u close ur eyes the difference between the output of cult 45 and the Manson family is time, a presidency, and LSD.

  • @04dram04
    @04dram04 Před 5 lety +10

    Helter skelter was like a song from the future. It would sound modern, if it came out today

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +4

      For sure. The production would be very different though. It wouldn't sound like it was recorded with 60s equipment if you know what i mean.

  • @PkmariO64
    @PkmariO64 Před 5 lety +4

    Helter Skelter is both my favourite Beatles and metal song.

  • @luispereztasso
    @luispereztasso Před 5 lety +1026

    We still waiting death grips my man

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +52

      Haha, even more now when i mentioned them in the video?

    • @jameswyatt6076
      @jameswyatt6076 Před 5 lety +19

      YUH

    • @luispereztasso
      @luispereztasso Před 5 lety

      and you know it bro ;)

    • @liltoaster9405
      @liltoaster9405 Před 5 lety +1

      Lie Likes Music please dad

    • @kirkmoore4515
      @kirkmoore4515 Před 5 lety +2

      The Trump cabinet has been listening to "Helter Skelter" on repeat constantly & are cutting crosses in their foreheads. That race war thing Charlie Manson was babbling about is on again! Incidentally Paul takes a swipe at Trump on his new album "Egypt Station".

  • @z_202
    @z_202 Před 5 lety +134

    I know I’ve probably commented this already but I’d love to see a video on Brian Jones, Brian Wilson or The Wall.
    Great content as always👍

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +3

      Thank you. I'll see what i can do. Most likely i'll create a poll where people can vote for one
      or more of these guys in the future.

    • @H00sty
      @H00sty Před 5 lety +4

      Fuck yes Brain Jones!

    • @littleUrsulet
      @littleUrsulet Před 5 lety +1

      You could do a video with Emerson, Lake & Palmer :) i would love it!

    • @DenpaKei
      @DenpaKei Před 5 lety

      @@littleUrsulet yes, please!

  • @nosleepsender
    @nosleepsender Před 4 lety +86

    He kinda predicted whats happening in America today...

    • @gorehound3414
      @gorehound3414 Před 4 lety +5

      EXACTLY

    • @LeonelLAURE
      @LeonelLAURE Před 3 lety

      No shite

    • @briane596able
      @briane596able Před 3 lety +7

      The KKK and Nazi have predicted or encouraged this for years, I don’t think Manson was special in that.. the Beatles definitely didn’t bring about the apocalypse in the 60s or 70s ... don’t mean to rain on the parade... but he is just a crazy dude. When people look to Trump and Manson for reason that is the culmination of the end...

    • @w.e.s.
      @w.e.s. Před 3 lety

      It wasnt a prediction everybody has been saying this bs would happen soon as they got their civil rights and it's only gonna get worse till our cou try is takin from us hand them out everything

  • @rictualfury965
    @rictualfury965 Před 5 lety +63

    Please do a video on the doors my man

  • @MrThedonhead
    @MrThedonhead Před 3 lety +25

    I’d loved it if McCartney done a full album of all out hard rock n roll with his full throttled singing throughout. He had blackbird, ob-la-di-ob- li-da,honey pie, back in ussr, and heltar skelter plus others all on one album. No other songwriter can do that many different styles all at once . A musical genius no doubt .

    • @gretchennelson9965
      @gretchennelson9965 Před 2 lety +1

      I always wanted Paul to do more songs like this too. He has a fantastic dirty rock voice.

    • @maricaro8315
      @maricaro8315 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Exactly !! In fact whenever Paul's genius is 'dismissed' or downplayed by someone I often state this. Paul's paw into the White Album alone has more range than the entire catalogue of any other rock band. I mean someone that goes from Blackbird to Rocky Raccoon or Back in the USSR, from Honey Pie to Helter Skelter has to be a frigging genius in my books.

  • @pauldavies5611
    @pauldavies5611 Před měsícem

    HS has my all-time favorite Beatle moment: when after what seems like it’s going to be a fade out, Ringo comes back in and only then does the song begin to fade out.

  • @georgeharrisonOK
    @georgeharrisonOK Před 8 měsíci +2

    The lyrics of Helter Skelter always make me think of Nietsche's philosophy.
    "When i get tomthe bottomnk go back to the top of th slide..."
    Could be related to the Eternal Return.
    And "You may be a lover but you are no dancer" reminds me of "I would only believe in a god who could dance"

  • @aliteralhorse5023
    @aliteralhorse5023 Před 5 lety +38

    It's interesting that bands such as the Beatles and Pink Floyd were so fascinated with, 'raw music', music that you could lable as simple and not to technacly complex and refined. But, sometimes just being srate forward is a much more impactful, and more importantly, enlightening way of music. Of corse, there needs to be complexity in every from of art, so just listen to Pink Floyd's, 'Great gig in the sky', to know what I mean in having a balance.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety

      Pink Floyd were masters of their craft. And what's interesting is that they really worked for
      it throughout several years. They earned the ears and hands to make something that was
      outstanding from everything else. Very inspirational. And yes this balance you talk about was
      crucial for that i think.

    • @aliteralhorse5023
      @aliteralhorse5023 Před 5 lety

      @@LieLikesMusicThis is why you are top tier in my opinion. Because you know your shit. And thanks for the like.

    • @bultacowally
      @bultacowally Před 8 měsíci

      @@LieLikesMusic Pink Floyd??? Masters of their craft??? What craft was that sucking??? They were right up there with Grateful Dead...you had to be tripping out of your mind to even remotely get into one of their song...any song by them. Comparing Floyd to the Beatles is like comparing a Volkswagen Beetle to a Lamborghini

    • @maricaro8315
      @maricaro8315 Před 8 měsíci

      @@bultacowally Search and you'll find a clip with Lamborghini Gilmour stating that The Beatles are the greatest band of all time. Not bad for a VW Beetle !!

  • @machinesmakingmusic4381
    @machinesmakingmusic4381 Před 5 lety +39

    Do Jeff Buckley. Unbelievably talented, haunting voice, underrated and tragic end before he bloomed. Also along with Donovan my of my favorite singer songwriters and favorite is the only qualifier there is since words like best should never describe art. Peace brother.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +2

      I'll see what i can do my friend. I listened to a lot of Tim Buckley earlier this month. He made some
      awesome stuff as well. Thanks for suggesting Jeff though. I'll keep him in mind.

  • @NoodlePastie
    @NoodlePastie Před 4 lety

    Bro your visual edits are impeccable. Whoever clips these up needs a raise. I'm tripping out to all the subtle wiggles and wavy layers. Brilliant.

  • @Semi-Orphanatic
    @Semi-Orphanatic Před 5 lety +9

    I really want to hear that 27 minute version to be honest, I love long songs so that would be great to listen to

  • @fossilmatic
    @fossilmatic Před 5 lety +8

    The thing about Helter Skelter and “heavy” music is that it defined what was missing in the attempts to get there, more than defining what developed into “heavy”rock or “heavy metal”. Thrashy guitar chords, harsh and trebly cutting timbre, screaming vocals, descending melody lines and repetition. Tick. But they had all been around in various combinations and as antecedents since You Really Got Me. The missing elements were unison riffing between guitar and bass, and much more prominence for the bass as the harmonic anchor of the song, working off the hi hat as much as the bass drum. That is what Zeppelin and Sabbath brought to the picture in equal measure, probably on the back of the musical prominence given to the bass by Cream. That orchestration of the bottom end of the rhythm is what defined heavy metal more than the top end of screaming vocals and guitar histrionics (textural or athletic). Jack Bruce got it right when he said that Bach was the heaviest musician of all, because the bass lines are contrapuntal; they reinforce and create tension and motion at the same time. It’s why rap music can sound “heavy”without any guitar at all. Ironically, in Helter Skelter the bass doesn’t really carry the effect, whereas in Paperback Writer or Rain it is singularly heavy and mixed way higher than in other contemporary rock music. Most punk guitar bands simple sounded thrashy and vigorous rather than heavy for this reason; they lacked bottom end cohesion. If you look for heavy metal precedents in the top end of the tonal spectrum you can find them in jazz as much as pop. Ornette Coleman or Cecil Taylor, anyone? But the bottom end really gels with Zeppelin and Sabbath, amongst others less commonly cited. What they might have in common is a pathway out of soul music, where the groove of the rhythm section was a fundamental. Anyway, my two cents after a couple or three decades of listening to this stuff.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety

      Damn it really sounds like you have a clear idea of the elements that went into this. You should've been a co-producer
      or writer for this thing haha. I'm not that into describing the technical ideas and facets that went into creating the sound.
      I'm very interested in telling the story. How the people thought on a bigger scale about their musical output. But your
      explanation makes a lot of sense too. Thank you so much for sharing your two cents. You added a lot of value to the comments!

  • @camilloa.1680
    @camilloa.1680 Před 5 lety +25

    I GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS !!

  • @davidarmstrong1318
    @davidarmstrong1318 Před 5 lety +5

    I love your videos. So informative in such a digestible way...it enhances my already-intense love for these artists ! Thank you for being you

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety

      Thank you David! That is very nice of you :) And i have an intense love for this stuff too, so i would be doing
      this no matter what. Is there anything i can do to improve these videos?

  • @KevinSmith-qn8fn
    @KevinSmith-qn8fn Před 5 lety +3

    That song is a good example of how powerful music can be

  • @drutgat2
    @drutgat2 Před 5 lety +8

    Just a quick typo correction. At 6.58 (with the Lennon quote onscreen) you mistakenly have "balmy" (meaning a warm, somewhat humid and lazy summer day). The English expression "barmy" (the equivalent of "nuts" used as a slang word, meaning "crazy") is actually what Lennon meant. And you're right about 'Helter Skelter' being innovative because of how 'heavy' and loud it was at the time, even though it was considered a throwaway track by The Beatles (the audio of Paul you have here confirms that, as do other utterances of his about the song).

  • @sigriddegaard9588
    @sigriddegaard9588 Před 5 lety +3

    Such cool effects!

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety

      Thanks! I tried to up my After Effects game during the making of this.

  • @TheSlatecrow
    @TheSlatecrow Před rokem +2

    As someone who has been unwittingly drugged with lsd, I can totally understand how someone hammering that shit could get in their mind ideas like this.

  • @tomrixcomedy
    @tomrixcomedy Před 2 lety +3

    One of multiple reasons why the Beatles are the greatest band that ever lived.

  • @christopherbailey5163
    @christopherbailey5163 Před 3 lety +3

    Also Charles Manson used the Beatles song sexy Sadie to describe one of his female followers and I think it was Susan Atkins. Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't consider helter skelter as the first heavy metal song because cream and Hendricks had some very loud songs out in 1967 and the white album didn't come out til 1968 and blue cheer had a remake of summertime blue that was loud and proud and it was out before the white album. Don't get me wrong, I love the Beatles but if anything you can say this song helped ozzy create black sabbath and their sound. Ozzy was crazy about this song

    • @quentindaniels4533
      @quentindaniels4533 Před 2 lety

      I’m trying to remember: didn’t Manson et al interpret some of the lyrics of “Blue Jay Way”? Whereas George was singing “Don’t be long” (as in coming to get us), Manson interpreted the lyrics as “Don’t belong”? I apologize if I have that wrong.

    • @user-fu2mi1nd5l
      @user-fu2mi1nd5l Před 9 měsíci

      "DONT BELONG", a reference to William taking over for Paul?@@quentindaniels4533

  • @backyardscience4919
    @backyardscience4919 Před 5 lety +46

    Deer hoof or Cage the Elephant

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +1

      Ouh i wanna make one on Deerhoof!! I reaaaaally want to.

    • @46_and28
      @46_and28 Před 5 lety

      @@LieLikesMusic no make a cage the elephant one

  • @jevinday
    @jevinday Před 5 lety

    Great video. I've always wondered about this whole phenomenon.

  • @roni6135
    @roni6135 Před 5 lety

    Amazing video buddy! looking forward to seeing​ more of beatles work!

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +1

      Yes i'll make more about them for sure. Glad you like it bro

  • @svmmerfield
    @svmmerfield Před 5 lety +36

    You should do The Beach Boys!!!

  • @tamere2247
    @tamere2247 Před 5 lety +8

    Did I just watch a video essay that wasn't sponsored by Skillshare or some shit ? Wah, it has been a while..
    Great video man, I am gonna look around your channel !

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +1

      Yeah everyone's jumping on the sponsor train these days. I'm not there yet (and maybe i'll never be).
      Thanks for watching! And sure i really appreciate that :)

  • @lisacov9914
    @lisacov9914 Před 5 lety

    Bless this editing! Really well made video

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety

      Thanks! Personally i thought it was a bit messy. But i'm in the learning process. So i'll most likely create a more
      consistent style in the close future. Thanks for watching.

  • @AnthonyRecenello
    @AnthonyRecenello Před 3 lety +26

    fucking outstanding video. great job

  • @taniab3012
    @taniab3012 Před 5 lety +6

    Just gotta say that I saw that live two weeks ago and it was soo amazing, so powerful and also funny to see the audience wondering if that was a Beatles song!

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety

      You saw it live? With Paul McCartney? Damn i didn't know he still performed.

    • @arandomsupra
      @arandomsupra Před rokem +1

      @@LieLikesMusic he fell through a hole in a stage

  • @Beer_viking
    @Beer_viking Před 4 lety +4

    its scary how right you were mr manson.

  • @friedricengravy6646
    @friedricengravy6646 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I absolutely love the song (melody & chord progression, lyrics) & the production.
    First of all, the progression is made up of notes forming chords that I like to describe as a symphony of chaos.
    Seriously, listen close to each chord change & u cannot miss the untraditional nature of these note groupings. Many r layered, but done so in a way where they change in time together & repeat just as a traditional progression does.
    A few other stand out moments for my ears r one, the intentional abstraction of the open note. Probably done so through more organic maneuvers than today (no pitch pedals or software affects) such as playing with the tuning key, applying pressure to the guitar neck & body in opposing directions, & maybe an early tremolo as we can see John playing during the Let It Be moment of Get Back! (peter jackson). The eq of Pauls voice, keeping it small while his performance is anything but, creates a really cool juxtaposition. In general, like all good art, the production relies heavily on contrast.
    Then, as a finale, the fade out/fade in……
    This has been done so often over the years it may feel benign, but when we consider the era & trends of that time, this was creative on another level compared to most artists working in sound as their medium.
    I am an older man today than when I first found the Beatles, but sincerely, the longer I live & the more access we have to facts regarding their creative process, the more they blow my mind. What a group of individuals, huh? Who were constantly able to take risks, which in return always seemed to find a connection to pop culture. Many artists have done one or the other, rarely do they land with a foot in both.

  • @Happyland_Motel_Gamer_Cat

    "I'm coming down fast but I'm miles above you" - I think of a divine vision of a Free fall into a Beyond, in your mind.

  • @dmitrygeneralov3896
    @dmitrygeneralov3896 Před 5 lety +27

    make video about kinks.not much people talking about them nowadays

  • @HarryBillyBobGeorge
    @HarryBillyBobGeorge Před 5 lety +3

    Well that just about doubled my respect for Paul. I've never been a big Beatles fan and never listened to this song. Really ahead of its time.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +4

      Cool cool. Take the time to check them out if you can. The Beatles were ahead of their time in SOOO many ways.

  • @BBINGHAM032352
    @BBINGHAM032352 Před 5 lety +20

    The Beatles beginnings of heavy metal imho. I bought my copy of the "White Album" in December 1968 when I was 16 years old. Manson was a dangerous screwball who was probably angry because the song he wrote for The Beach Boys was changed.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +1

      I don't know too much about his connection with The Beach Boys, but yes maybe that helped fuel
      his anger and out-of-control imagination. Thanks for resonating with the video Brian!

    • @BBINGHAM032352
      @BBINGHAM032352 Před 5 lety +1

      Mike Love claimed that Manson “accompanied Terry Melcher and Dennis Wilson on several of their club outings. Manson was also in the car one day when Dennis dropped Terry off at his rented home at 10050 Cielo Drive, at the top of a steep hill in the Benedict Canyon area. Terry lived there with his girlfriend, the actress Candice Bergen.” But Melcher had moved out of the home when Manson family members arrived for the slaughter and killed pregnant Sharon Tate and the other occupants in the home instead. The next evening, the group killed the LaBiancas. “Neither Dennis nor I nor anyone associated with the Beach Boys had any idea that Manson was involved in these murders. In November, three months after the murders, the case finally broke,” he explained.
      “Dennis [was] shaken to the core. To my knowledge, he never told the authorities that he saw Manson murder that ‘black cat’ at Spahn Ranch, and he certainly couldn’t testify in court, where he would have had to look Manson right in the eye.” Melcher was the only child of actress/singer Doris Day.

    • @BBINGHAM032352
      @BBINGHAM032352 Před 5 lety

      Charles Manson wrote this one! czcams.com/video/LRGI5Exr3ZQ/video.html

    • @BBINGHAM032352
      @BBINGHAM032352 Před 5 lety

      Here's Capitol Records 2360 which was issued on December 2, 1968 on the same USA label as earlier Beatles records before they formed Apple Records. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Learn_Not_to_Love

    • @BBINGHAM032352
      @BBINGHAM032352 Před 5 lety

      Information about Terry Melcher en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Melcher

  • @Box52222
    @Box52222 Před 5 lety

    Brilliant video production

  • @TheSugarRay
    @TheSugarRay Před 5 lety +3

    This is my favorite Beatles song.

  • @georgebad4229
    @georgebad4229 Před 5 lety +39

    Talking about artists that flirted with heavy metal and fails to mention JIMI HENDRIX!!! Come on!!

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +3

      Lol there's probably a bunch more i could've mentioned. Off course he was involved too.

    • @lickit8096
      @lickit8096 Před 5 lety +2

      Gavin Levine jimi Hendrix did not make any music anywhere near "heavy metal"

    • @BoHorn
      @BoHorn Před 5 lety

      What track did you have in mind? He was one of the heaviest blues/rock makers, but his music had nearly nothing to do with metal.

    • @bric3688
      @bric3688 Před 5 lety +1

      LICK IT If 6 was 9 was just as heavy as helter skelter

  • @christopherhayden7345
    @christopherhayden7345 Před 5 lety

    Love your videos man 💙

  • @willkirkoff1333
    @willkirkoff1333 Před 5 lety

    Great video man awesome content, I just subscribed!

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +1

      Awesome! Thanks for supporting me dude. Cheers from Oslo, Norway.

  • @KoSaxPrO
    @KoSaxPrO Před 5 lety +11

    Understanding "Still Life" by Opeth? Pretty please

  • @seleykosanikatwr9272
    @seleykosanikatwr9272 Před 5 lety +8

    Nice to see the hollyhobs here

  • @TheGnewb
    @TheGnewb Před 5 lety

    Great video, I will now forever associate that song with an amusement ride on a beach in the UK.

  • @MrSchneedorn
    @MrSchneedorn Před 5 lety

    Great video, i listened often to the song lately

    • @joshco3090
      @joshco3090 Před 5 lety

      Yes

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +1

      I guess this video bounced into your life at the right time then. Awesome.

  • @kaislater9114
    @kaislater9114 Před 5 lety +226

    What do you mean The Velvet Underground weren't the heaviness of Helter Skelter? Listen to the record White Light/White Heat, released in 1968, the same year as Helter Skelter. One of the noisiest, dirtiest rock records ever.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +45

      Yes that's true. You can even argue that they were more influential in terms of bringing in heavier music,
      since that whole album was from another planet in terms of heavyness. But remember, The Velvet
      Underground had a hard time becoming a commercial band. So i think The Beatles had more influence
      with their ONE heavy song, compared to the underground stuff that Velvet did back in the day.

    • @clintonjosephcAMIELj
      @clintonjosephcAMIELj Před 5 lety +20

      Velvet Underground wasn't much revered at that time as it is done now.

    • @kaislater9114
      @kaislater9114 Před 5 lety +6

      Lie Likes Music For sure. Totally agree on that. The song is totally amazing for bringing some rawness and heaviness to the mainstream music scene in the late 60s.

    • @pawnshoproses652
      @pawnshoproses652 Před 5 lety +10

      I mean, Hendrix, Cream and the Yardbirds were heavier still.

    • @kaislater9114
      @kaislater9114 Před 5 lety +1

      Pawnshop Roses Than what?

  • @zappasmustache
    @zappasmustache Před 5 lety +5

    This came out a month after MC5 Kick Out the Jams. That is the first Heavy Metal album.

  • @coolgamer936132
    @coolgamer936132 Před 5 lety +1

    love ya vids man

  • @nathrash3r
    @nathrash3r Před 5 lety +1

    I love your videos man

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +1

      Thank you Dodo. Cool to see you on the livestream earlier today.

  • @rustyhumanbeing
    @rustyhumanbeing Před 5 lety +13

    The madman makes an upload while he's live.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +1

      Lol i wasn't live. For some reason CZcams mislabeled the video. I guess i'm live forever now.

    • @rustyhumanbeing
      @rustyhumanbeing Před 5 lety +1

      I'd watch it

  • @johnryan1069
    @johnryan1069 Před 5 lety

    Happy Birthday man!

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety

      Thank you ;) First birthday congratulation i've ever gotten on the channel hehe

  • @sude3498
    @sude3498 Před 4 lety +1

    Helter Skelter was and is my favorite Beatles song, i never knew about these things about it and is quite shocking!

    • @user-fu2mi1nd5l
      @user-fu2mi1nd5l Před 9 měsíci

      There's LOTS about The beatles that is disturbing. Crowely on PEPPER cover is one example.

    • @kenperkins7921
      @kenperkins7921 Před 9 měsíci

      Steve was great on the X FILES!

  • @sleepytime903
    @sleepytime903 Před 3 lety +5

    Melody Marker: The Who's dirtiest, grittiest and filthiest piece of music 'I Can See For Miles'
    Paul: Bitch please,
    also....
    I GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS
    RIP Ringo fingers TT

  • @Linda-pw8gx
    @Linda-pw8gx Před 2 lety +1

    Yes, I can see where this would be the beginning of the heavy metal genre, this song/album was a big change from previous albums.

  • @GAPSYO3O1
    @GAPSYO3O1 Před 5 lety +1

    Love The Beatles White Album, can’t wait to get the new released version that came out this year, I wish they would release that 27 min version!

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety

      Yeah same here. According to an interview, the 27 min version was bluesier.

  • @carlbaker9817
    @carlbaker9817 Před 5 lety +3

    You see Charles face for a scene, and then Pauls little baby face and you’re like- damn how the hell did this happen

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +1

      Yeah it's a crazy story. Thanks for watching.

  • @FireBird7766
    @FireBird7766 Před 5 lety +40

    6:35
    *Barmy
    British for crazy.

  • @noahhenson1669
    @noahhenson1669 Před 2 lety

    In three years, you've probably had this pointed out, but just in case: In 1968 it was CREAM and Vanilla Fudge who had recently set the high bar for the heaviest, loudest sounds in rock music. You're absolutely right to list the others -- Iron Butterfly, the Mothers, etc. -- but it was initially the heavy music of Clapton, Bruce and Baker which inspired the bands who came after.

  • @TheJavaMonkey
    @TheJavaMonkey Před 5 lety

    It’s the HollyhoBs! Dude is awesome.

  • @dingdongism
    @dingdongism Před 5 lety +6

    "They knew very little about how a certain man would interpret the lyrics on the album."
    The Beatles didn't know anything about how Charles Manson would interpret their lyrics. They didn't know who he was.

  • @backyardscience4919
    @backyardscience4919 Před 5 lety +9

    Iron Butterfly

  • @thealsoperson2372
    @thealsoperson2372 Před 5 lety +2

    What's funny is that I Can See for Miles sounds so tame now. So does Helter Skelter to an extent, now that rock has pushed "heaviness" to the furthest possible extreme, but I think it still retains a lot of its power. Paul sure could scream.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety

      That's true. There's way heavier music these days because of people continuously pushing the envelope.
      But it's always cool to look backward in time too imo.

    • @gretchennelson7056
      @gretchennelson7056 Před 2 lety

      This will NEVER sound tame. I Can See For Miles is tame…and I love The Who. But Paul WAY outclassed them on this.

  • @peanut_i_guess
    @peanut_i_guess Před 11 měsíci +1

    After listening to the story’s of the “Helter Skelter” killings, I thought it would be super sad and depressing but then I heard the song and I thought, “oh, it’s like any other classic rock song”

  • @scootergeorge9576
    @scootergeorge9576 Před 5 lety +6

    Manson was charged and convicted of conspiracy to commit murder. He did shoot a drug dealer known as Lots a papa, but the man survived and apparently was not the type to press charges. He may have been in on the murder of ranch hand "Shorty" Shea.
    For what it's worth, I did very briefly meet Manson in 1969 on Santa Susana Pass Road. Was screaming at my brother and I that we were trespassing on private property. I thought he was some deranged homeless guy but noticed he had a gun tucked under his belt. Could have been the infamous bunt-line revolver but can't say for sure. Were he not armed I would have told him to fuck off...

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +1

      Damn you actually met the man? That's such a crazy coincidence. I'm glad you and your brother didn't get hurt.
      Smart of you to keep a low profile around this freak.

    • @scootergeorge9576
      @scootergeorge9576 Před 5 lety +1

      Didn't realize who he was till months later when he was on the front page of the LA Times and on the news on TV. My brother was like, "That was the guy..." And I replied, 'Yep!"

  • @vincentm614
    @vincentm614 Před 5 lety +4

    The Who were still developing their craft as a live stage and recording band that turned out to be one of the most brilliant and dynamic bands in the world. I Can See For Miles is a wonderful song but indeed McCartney's Helter Skelter gets the hands down for being much louder and heavier at the time. The Beatles were still the head of the pack and still innovative.

  • @waffledoesstuff2145
    @waffledoesstuff2145 Před 3 lety +1

    Helter Skelter is my favourite song from The Beatles

  • @phantom_troubadour
    @phantom_troubadour Před 2 lety +1

    Paul should do a whole album like Helter Skelter

  • @ternura727
    @ternura727 Před 5 lety +83

    Now THIS is podracing.

    • @LieLikesMusic
      @LieLikesMusic  Před 5 lety +8

      Podracing? As in Star Wars?

    • @merlebump5328
      @merlebump5328 Před 5 lety +2

      I don't know the relation to this vid, but I love the quote

  • @josiemaxj763
    @josiemaxj763 Před 5 lety +9

    The Clash please

  • @emmag75
    @emmag75 Před 3 lety +1

    What sources did you get this info from? I doubt you'll respond, but it's all super interesting and I'd like to get a deeper dive.

  • @EndOfStates
    @EndOfStates Před 5 lety +1

    Tbh I would love a "Pink Floyd,The Wall" video from you. The plot of that album is just so amazing.

  • @nedd.8479
    @nedd.8479 Před 5 lety +4

    A video on Subterranean Homesick Blues by Bob Dylan would be interesting.