IIRC, Anna Pavlova's 2nd vault from the 2008 Vault Final. The light in the screen didn't turn green, but the judge raised the flag and she got a 0 as a result. How did they work that out in the end?
@@dudubcjkxkd the Code also lists a deduction for improper placing of the emblem (0.300) but does not specify where (that I’m aware of). It’s usually placed on the arm (bicep) or chest
Especially when they step out of bounds; you know who I mean. Along with making sure they stuck their landings. No extra hops or moving their feet once they landed... Balance breaks, not completing the move they were trying to do, etc. ...
@@lpoco0006 yes but also a single misstep could completely tank a gymnasts score when it could just be a heftier deduction like -2.00 that wouldn’t entirely decimate someone’s chances of medaling.
Disagree. You should only do skills that you’re clearly safe to do with or without extra mats. Don’t just throw risky skills and hoping an extra inch of padding will lower the risk of injury.
I agree, because landing without a mat feels so harsh! I tried to land without a mat once and my breath was almost gone. 😆 I'm an amateur gymnasts tho, so I can use whatever I want, but the most difficult elements done on FX floor without a mat must feel harsh.
Idk about the re-mounting the podium being a deduction. I've seen many gymnasts jump back up on the podium to wave a fans, for a water bottle, chalk, or to help chalk the bars for their teammates.
In the last Olympics the team of 4 all wore the same leotard; but the people that had qualified to compete based on winning specific events wore a different one, even though they were in the rotation with their countries' team.
I have a doubt. Many gymnast floor musics have words in their songs, as I've heard: "Samba!", "Stop!", "Work it out, work it out!", "Sway", "Ven conmigo", "C'mon" , "Conga!". Is FIG less strict about this? Do you think we will have new rules about song lyrics in the future?
@@gymnasticsmasterclass I saw the others examples in random videos, but I think one word or a small phrase don't make problem in the floor exercise scores.
With regards to recounting the podium, I've seen gymnasts who did really well and medaled go up to wave to the audience. Are there exceptions to the rule?
No. In fact, this just happened in the 2021 Men's Olympic AA final. The eventual silver medalist got back onto the podium and celebrated, and received a -.3 deduction. In the end, it didn't change whether he became the Olympic Champion, but it was still silly (on both ends - the rule is silly, but gymnasts/coaches should know better).
@@jjs5056 I thought he received the deduction because he didn't salute after his final routine, but at the end of the day, he still would've been 2nd. The Chinese were outraged by the deduction claiming Hashimoto (the champion of that event) was overscored, but those who actually know gymnastics will know that his mistake on the vault was not as detrimental as they thought
It doesn't matter if you step on the podium again when everyone is done right? For example Svetlana Khorkina kissing the bars in 2000 or Liu Xuan saluting on the podium
Gymnastics, diving and boxing are highly controversial sports in terms of baffling judgements. They need revamp to make themselves more relevant and transparent.
Zou Jingyuan and Xiao Ruoteng of China forgot to salute twice at the Tokyo Olympics and lost 0.3 each time. I think a system of warnings would be fairer: you do it once, you get a warning. You do it twice, you lose 0.3 (or more). But it’s unfair to penalize gymnasts so harshly on a technicality. Especially in men’s gymnastics where most international competitions (teams or individual AA) have been won by a couple of tenths these last few years. The Code of Points is full of illogical and nonsensical rules anyway.
What if the gymnast forgets to salute at the start AND at the end of the exercise, would each failure incur a separate penalty so that it would be .6 deductions in all (.3 each time)?
your intros are so long omfg 20 seconds for the video to start. please. we dont need to know that the CoP has "several deductions" (no shit), that vary from big and small deductions (no shit) and will impact the gymnasts final score (no shit) during competitions (NO SHIT)!.... holy shit
One of the most frustrating things is when there is a neutral deduction in an event final 😭
IIRC, Anna Pavlova's 2nd vault from the 2008 Vault Final.
The light in the screen didn't turn green, but the judge raised the flag and she got a 0 as a result.
How did they work that out in the end?
She got a zero. She went on a red light so it was classed as her fault.
@@lanpingpug That's pretty stupid, obviously Anna should've double checked, but that judge was responsible as well
Note: gymnasts must have the flag of the country or the national emblem (both are permitted). E.g. China and Russia use their emblem quite often.
Do you get given one by the ‘competition people’ lmao. And is there a certain place that the emblem needs to be put if so who decides where?
@@dudubcjkxkd the Code also lists a deduction for improper placing of the emblem (0.300) but does not specify where (that I’m aware of). It’s usually placed on the arm (bicep) or chest
Do you know what rules apply if they aren't allowed to compete for their country? Like with Russia -> ROC this Olympics.
@@agneseditsstuff The Russians used a flag specifically designed for ROC, it's on their left arm for team and left ribs for Gerasimova and Iliankova.
Thank you!
I would love for you to make a video with examples of a gymnast getting these deductions now!
Especially when they step out of bounds; you know who I mean. Along with making sure they stuck their landings. No extra hops or moving their feet once they landed... Balance breaks, not completing the move they were trying to do, etc. ...
Can you make a masterclass video on UB grips? Like El Grip, Reverse Grip, etc.
And UB pirouettes
I'm sorry, but the Dutch choreography as their team is introduced is just *_everything_*
The automatic 0 rules on vault are harsh
For qualifying, if you’re on a team, you have to wear the same Leo. As an individual, you can wear something else.
Interesting - thank you. I’ve often wondered about the extra mats.
Wow i didn't know most of these
automatic 0’s on vault is a bit strict considering their laxness in other more important areas
it protects the athletes
@@lpoco0006 yes but also a single misstep could completely tank a gymnasts score when it could just be a heftier deduction like -2.00 that wouldn’t entirely decimate someone’s chances of medaling.
The rule where you can’t use mats in major competitions is stupid. They could possibly get an ankle injury! Not on the safety side zone.
Yeah but thar could happen anywhere
Disagree. You should only do skills that you’re clearly safe to do with or without extra mats. Don’t just throw risky skills and hoping an extra inch of padding will lower the risk of injury.
Actually it's quite the contrary, permitting an extra mat could lead the gymnast to a false sense of security in attempting more risky skills
I agree, because landing without a mat feels so harsh! I tried to land without a mat once and my breath was almost gone. 😆 I'm an amateur gymnasts tho, so I can use whatever I want, but the most difficult elements done on FX floor without a mat must feel harsh.
@@federicapiottoli6922 some of those mats are positioned where you can't tell if they stepped out of bounds or not. Not fair to other gymnasts.
Idk about the re-mounting the podium being a deduction. I've seen many gymnasts jump back up on the podium to wave a fans, for a water bottle, chalk, or to help chalk the bars for their teammates.
What if the gymnast blinks during her performance? how many points will be deducted?
Blinking of one eye: -0.300
Blinking of two eyes: -0.600
Hahahaha
Very interesting! I knew some of these but not all of them.
In the last Olympics the team of 4 all wore the same leotard; but the people that had qualified to compete based on winning specific events wore a different one, even though they were in the rotation with their countries' team.
I have a doubt. Many gymnast floor musics have words in their songs, as I've heard: "Samba!", "Stop!", "Work it out, work it out!", "Sway", "Ven conmigo", "C'mon" , "Conga!". Is FIG less strict about this? Do you think we will have new rules about song lyrics in the future?
Words/lyrics are not allowed in floor music. Only vocals/harmonies. Where did you hear those words?
Conga? Gretchen hahahaha
some vocalizations could sound close to words or make you think you're hearing voices.
@@gymnasticsmasterclass Rune Hermans 2017, Daria Spiridonova 2016, a Brazilian junior this year, Flavia Saraiva 2021, Gaelle Mys 2013-2016.
@@gymnasticsmasterclass I saw the others examples in random videos, but I think one word or a small phrase don't make problem in the floor exercise scores.
Amazingly big or small deductions.
Some of the rules are similar to rhythmic gymnastics also 😮
There is a deduction if spring board isn’t removed from UB area after use.
Regarding the supplementary mats, the coaches can't move them to another corner during the routine
How often do people get penalized for not having their flag/number on their uniform?
With regards to recounting the podium, I've seen gymnasts who did really well and medaled go up to wave to the audience. Are there exceptions to the rule?
No. In fact, this just happened in the 2021 Men's Olympic AA final. The eventual silver medalist got back onto the podium and celebrated, and received a -.3 deduction. In the end, it didn't change whether he became the Olympic Champion, but it was still silly (on both ends - the rule is silly, but gymnasts/coaches should know better).
@@jjs5056 I thought he received the deduction because he didn't salute after his final routine, but at the end of the day, he still would've been 2nd. The Chinese were outraged by the deduction claiming Hashimoto (the champion of that event) was overscored, but those who actually know gymnastics will know that his mistake on the vault was not as detrimental as they thought
WOW pressure to perform and pressure for stupid stuff 😑 these poor girls, GOD bless and good luck doing what you 💘 love
It doesn't matter if you step on the podium again when everyone is done right? For example Svetlana Khorkina kissing the bars in 2000 or Liu Xuan saluting on the podium
I guess once everyone is done competing it’s allowed
I've seen the gold medalist do that and wave to the crowd. After everyone is done competing I guess it doesn't matter
And Armenia in rio
Gymnastics, diving and boxing are highly controversial sports in terms of baffling judgements. They need revamp to make themselves more relevant and transparent.
Oh good to know the rules so we know why they get such score.
Zou Jingyuan and Xiao Ruoteng of China forgot to salute twice at the Tokyo Olympics and lost 0.3 each time. I think a system of warnings would be fairer: you do it once, you get a warning. You do it twice, you lose 0.3 (or more). But it’s unfair to penalize gymnasts so harshly on a technicality. Especially in men’s gymnastics where most international competitions (teams or individual AA) have been won by a couple of tenths these last few years.
The Code of Points is full of illogical and nonsensical rules anyway.
Is it 3 tenths or 0.3 tenths? 😐
3 tenths is 0.3
@@lindsayandrews4081yes, but in the video he consistently says “point 5 tenths”.
Does he mean 0.5?
Or 0.05?
0.5 = 5 tenths
0.05 = point 5 tenths
@@Fogmeister Oh true, fair enough! Didn't catch that :)
What if the gymnast forgets to salute at the start AND at the end of the exercise, would each failure incur a separate penalty so that it would be .6 deductions in all (.3 each time)?
.3 overall
But they do right from the start of their gymnastics... its pretty ingrained
mates always should be allowed
must walk like a robot in a team or 0.300 deduction
C'mon, the check's in the mail!!!
most of these rules are kinda dumb not gonna lie like the 30s value rule & the mats rules which should be there for safety
your intros are so long omfg 20 seconds for the video to start. please. we dont need to know that the CoP has "several deductions" (no shit), that vary from big and small deductions (no shit) and will impact the gymnasts final score (no shit) during competitions (NO SHIT)!.... holy shit
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