Texas TIG Welding | Stick Welding with 2 Electrodes
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We mentioned "Texas TIG" in a video a while back when we did a video on dealing with large gaps. At the time we were showing how to do code quality welds on some bigger than wanted gap. Today, we are showing you how to do TEXAS TIG (AKA Tijuana TIG, Florida Fill, Stiggin, etc, etc.). It should be noted that this method is NOT for critical welds. This is for use when you are stuck doing a project without the right electrode you need and the job needs to get done. It's also fun to play around with. Happy Welding!
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Well, this is the damnedest thing I've seen in a while and I've been welding for forty years! You can teach an old dog new tricks, even a mutt like me. I'm heading out to the shop right now to try this out for myself. "What else don't I know" I'm asking myself now. You rocked me! This is why I watch this channel.
Lee Barnhart was the last time
Got that right Lee I am with you I have been welding almost 50 years and I have never tried Texas Tig either. Go's to show ya can learn some thing even when you think you already know it all!!
Really?? All those years you guys have been welding n ya never have seen and heard of this? ....... Well I guess it is believeable, I've only been welding 30yrs and this guy teaches me something every time I watch him. Even if it is just a small thing, I pick up something every time!!! Absolutely a genius welding instructor!!! Good Luck guys and keep Striking the Arc!!!!hahahahah
logan kincade ....And his dry humor cracks me up !
works best if you beat the flux off a 7018 as a filler rod and whip into it with your 6010
Best moment: "I'm going to be running this 3/32 1109... oh, wait a minute... *turns rod over* ... that's 6011". Thanks Bob, you've got a great sense of humor. Pretty neat video too!
Adam Jensen that was funny
Nice
Ha! I didn't even notice til I read this.
You could tell he was joking by the huge, ear to ear grin and slight chuckle he lets out just after saying it...
(This was also a joke... Bob’s speaking voice is pure 60Hz, just with a slight southern drawl...)
I literally LOL'd
The Bob Ross of welding... Couldn't be happier to be watching!
I agree
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I was about to post that, and found your comment. I don't even own a welder yet, and it came to mind how relazong it us to watch him. LOL
"Just gonna put a Happy little weld right here..... yeah"
The best kind of teacher. Calm and stable with clear explanations and sneaking in some good jokes in the middle of the lessons. I wish all my teachers I had in school would have been like this.
First welder I find with "Texas Tig" in the settings menu, I'm buying on the spot!!!
I had an inspector catch me doing this to fill a gap on 3/8" top plate to HHS4x4x0.25 column with 7018. He asked me "what the hell are you doing?". I told him STIG welding. "what the hell is that?" he said. I told him a combo of Stick and Tig, go look it up. He watched me for a while and said that was interesting. The next day when he came to my job site he chewed my butt and told me to never do that again on a structural weld, but I'm not going to make you grind out that weld and do it again cause it came out real nice and I taught him something. This is the first time I've seen this done anywhere else. I like it. It works in a pinch.
RudyRay AAW LOL great story. Glad I never got caught.
RudyRayAAW
You should have been a lawyer, to be able to make up an answer that sounded believable to an inspector who never believes anything.incredible!
When he said “it didn’t take into account that I’m a bad....”
Who was waiting for “motherf***er”?
😂😂😂 I was literally about to make this same comment so I came to check the comments to make sure it hadn’t been said and sure enough...
“Coopins “. I literally LOL’d. Great video!
Greg Murray Thank you sir.
When he said that it reminded me of Ron white
Samuel Bickford yeah man me too I thought of Ron White immediately. I actually had to back up and watch that several times to make sure that’s what I saw. That is so weird the way he says this in this video. Maybe it’s the way it was edited.
Never welded in my life and I can't stop watching the "Bob Ross of Welding"!
The video quality of the welds in progress has gotten a lot better. Clearest visuals of live welds I’ve seen yet. Thanks Bob.
Memories! I learned a similar technique back in 1986, a long way from Texas -- I was in training at the Canadian Coast Guard College, in Sydney, Nova Scotia.
The piece I was welding was part of the lube oil piping on a Fairbanks-Morse diesel engine. That section of pipe passed a pressure test at 300 p.s.i., and I passed that year's shop class...
Today, I own a real TIG, and have no plans to do any stick welding any time soon...
My granddad sold those engines back in the 30's then opened a machine shop in 1950. This channel (Bob) are great.
Nova Scotia here
Wow !
That tubing and angle iron is a good real world example on how to weld the thin stuff with a gap. Good video.
back when i was young i was 30 m ( 100 feet?) up in a crane, ON critical application and had an 8mm (5/16") gap, i told my supervisor, i wouldn`t do it (i couldn`t if i wnted), he was lifted to the place, taught me this technique (he had no name other than it`s done), and proceed to immediately fire me the moment we touched ground. haha never forgot the incident. thanks for bringing back some memories.
Works great for welding handrail. Especially when all you have is 1/8". I've filled plenty of ugly gaps by doin this.
"I'm gonna violate these parameters because I'm a bad... fitter." lol
He said it was for non critical.
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I was waiting for him to say something else 🤣🤣🤣
I had an old timer show me this when I was a teenager, 45 now. Still use it especially working on a farm. Great video.
This dude should be a voice actor. His voice and accent are amazing.
he's from Kansas
But I agree, he would make a great Johnny Silverhand, move over, Keanu
I did a job in Henderson, NV at a titanium plant. We were putting in 1/2 diamond tread plate. Had a couple gnarly gaps. We were welding the plate with 5/32 7018. Busted the flux off of them rods and started pushing. Worked well to fill the gap and left the weld below the tread plate to be able to put a good cap pass on it. Couldn't tell there was a bad gap. That was the beginning of my stick welding career.
You truly are one of the most valueable men on the internet. Thanks for sharing what you know and taking the time to walk through it and also showing when things dont go quite as planned. Much appreciated bob.
As a farmer, the “bridging a gap” thing is one of the most common welding situations I end up in, commonly with various material thicknesses, paint, dirt, rust, grime etc. Last week I had to fix a hole in an old slurry spreader wich was dented, painted (partially) and had rust making the metal anywhere from 2 to 7 mm thick and without ever hearing about it I came up with the idea of grabbing some TIG wire to help bridge the gaps.
Excellent video, would love more on subjects that apply to repairing stuff with limited resources, such as only having one kind of rod and the only “sheet metal” available being some old bits cut from a retired combine, using mixed metals etc.
The lessons are superb, but the humor is sublime.
"Florida Fill" 😂😂😂😂
In my opinion he’s pretty damn funny
@@danielgump8387 And an excellent instructor!
I now know what Texas tig is, and understand how to apply it in not critical components like school. 3 years old and still teaching. Thank you
This channel, man, always learning me some new tricks!
Bob is my favorite of ALL of them. He's the kind of instructor who makes learning F U N.......!
Thank you so much brother for all your hard work and effort that you put into all your videos. You are an awesome welder and welding instructure. I'm a welder who has fallen on hard times and has suffered depression, I couldn't actually be in the field. You help keep my mind in the shop where it belongs. It's such a peaceful tranquil welding.
So that's what they call it... The last time I've seen rod with flux as filler was a long time ago when my dad was filling a hole in the early 90's. He was a pipe fitter beforehand, but he would tell me to never do it because I was being taught properly and to never let him catch me doing what I watched him do those few times. We had a big Miller back then and I grew up on a Lincoln. Miller died, Lincoln died, and a cheaper monster came along that by the time I knew better than to weld around the farm using that technique for anything other than filling simple holes too. Last thing I used it on was an old lawnmower deck that was spitting rocks towards the feet...
Now I got my Everlast 255EXT and I couldn't imagine doing it again without TIG... It's the best game ever, weeks to months spent building plates and bars from 1/8" bar stock when I finish my job.
Man Bob, I've not thought so much of my late father until I began watching your videos a long while back and your always reminding me of him. Thanks!
Great camera work for this video. Loved the side by side view and improved angles, much appreciated.
Benjamin Lee 👍
I really agree. These split screen views are just the best, particularly for noob like me. You get to see how you’re propping and handling the equipment plus you see great arc shots. Well done Mr Camera Man!
About a 90 seconds in, I knew the moment he said "coupons" I needed to subscribe.
I wish I could have had you as my teacher back in the day. But, as I am about 15-20 years older than you...LOL! You have this flat, dry this is how you do it the right way, demeanor that gets me. You are just awesome dude!! Now you know why I love this channel, and I'm a retired RN, with a few months HS welding only.
Watched one of our shop guys, several years ago now, bash all the flux off three or four other rods, jam them into the gap of a fillet joint and welded right over the top of it all....worked awesome.
Ryan Jones Yes sir, I have done the same on many occasions; just tack the rods in the joint and weld right over them...
That sounds a bit dodgy how did it look? More importantly how did it hold?
Chris Mclean the repair was on the side wall of the dump box on an off-road dump truck. He used that technique, if that's what you call it, to fill the gap because the replacement panel they cut in the shop was square-ish and the bent side of the dump box out on the job site was bent-ish. It actually looked good. Looked like a big fillet weld. It was a double wall part of the dump box, so you couldn't see the back side. It held the rest of the time I worked there and I have no doubt it's probably still there. I would absolutely try this if I was in that situation. It may sound like a Mickey Mouse repair, but it actually worked really freakin well. And fast!
Just don't PAUT it
Man I am glad I found this place.. I am learning a bunch of new things here.. I am just an old retired fella and now just do goof off welds around the shop and some for friends and family.. This is great I never heard of this not only does it look like fun to play with but very very practical Thank my brother.. I appreciate this!
Every time i see this guy, i feel like I'm watching Seasick Steve welding. I never seen this technique before, thanks a lot for this!
Now there's a name i ain't heard in a minute and i totally see it as well haha
I like how you add "for non criticle welds."
To "save time" some lesser wwii wartime shipbuilders put rebar rods with a cap weld on top in grovewelds where they were supposed to have laid full on mulitpass welds. Looked great on the surface. Unzipped like banana out on the open sea.
At a construction company I was at wed do that on structural welds since the company would get pissed off if we used too much rod since they were buying. Shady ass place.
If you participated and didn't report them, that makes you a shady person, too.
cobre I was told about this problem 70 years ago, about the welds unzipping like a banana whilst at sea, and a lot of “liberty ships never made it as a result.. killed a lot of seamen “to save time”.?
They didn't understand about transition temperatures back then, below which fracture toughness was really low (the metal became brittle). It's a sad story, talk about learning the hard way...
Would that have worked with a pass on either edge of the rebar?
back in the 70's I had a fitter that couldn't fit his butt on a toilet seat. so i used 5/32 7018 with the flux knocked off as the filler on 4"schedule 40 cs handrails in a Carolina wood yard. I learned from a old welder so this has been used a long time.
Haven't touched a welder in years, but have recently taken it back up for some home/farm projects. Have really enjoyed your videos, so I thank you.
Great video, very informative. I used this method a couple of times about 30 years ago to fill up some gaps on some back yard projects. It didn't look all that pretty, but it worked. Your welds look a lot better. I never stop learning from your vids. It''s nice of you to share all of this with us. Thank you. Dan
Ya it may be non critical but, it's still Bad ass! And highly useful!! And being brought to us by one of the most Bad assest instructor on the planet! Thank you Mr Bob
That is a quality tip to have in the tool box, thanks Bob
This is the first time I've seen anyone else do this. I used to work in a shipyard and had some hefty gaps to fill and kinda learned this by necessity. It works when it's all you can do.
Yep! Seen my welder do this a few times when I was a helper back in the mid 90s. Texas Baby!!
We recently made a pressure vessel using a 20 inch sched 10 pipe with a 25mm end plate welded to the inside, recessed about 40mm into the vessel, using 7018. Unfortunately we had a bad fit up on this particular vessel, there was anywhere from a 4mm to a 7mm gap between the plate and the pipe. The gentleman who welded it had many years'experience and managed to get the root and a few fillers in using 2.6mm 7018 LH rods, on quite a low amperage. We also kept rotating the pipe to ensure he was always welding uphill, to get the most penetration. Thereafter he used 3.15mm 7018 LH to do a few more filler passes and then finally capped it with a pass of 4mm 7018. Finally, he crawled inside the pipe and finished it with a TIG weld on the inside, fusing the back part and adding filler wire for some extra reinforcement. It was a real education for me in assisting him with this job as I learnt a lot about filling in with small stringers, and to see the various techniques he used to get the weld material where he wanted it to go. Many hours and lots of colourful language later the job was finished. Must say it was a good learning curve for us all in the workshop. I know it isn't exactly pertinent to this video as Mr Moffat was showing a technique for non critical components, but I thought I'd add to the conversation since bad fit ups are really common, and not desirable at all, especially with pressure vessels that have right tolerances. As always, thanks to weld.com for teaching me something I didn't know and had never even considered. Definitely my favourite channel on CZcams!
Mr Moffat, In the 1940's the old British company "Quasi-Arc" produced equipment that actually ran a set up with two electrodes bonded together. The electrode holder was fed with twin AC supplies and the process was known as "Twinarc", as an apprentice over 50 years ago I was lucky enough to be able to play with a set along with an old Atomic Hydrogen set which was used for welding anchor chain links.
You are really helping a lot of us learn to perfect our methods and , here, learn something completely new.
Well, that was just a real eye opener. It opens up all kinds of ideas to me on non-critical hobby-weld situations. Thanks a lot.
Man that was bad ass. You gave me a solution for my messed up cuts. Giving some good advice on all your videos. Texas field mechanic appreciates your help.
Whenever I would run into big gaps I would take a rod or 2 and break all the flux off of them, then cut them down to the size of the joint to be filled and tack it into the gap parallel with the joint then weld right over it... It worked like a charm evertime... Love your vids brother👍
Who hasn't done this. When I was in Vietnam with the Seabees we did it ALL the time when there Was NO time!
You're the best, Bob! Thanks so much for all your instruction and for the way you do it all! A true gem
Kudos for not being afraid of trying this, not for the faint of heart.
Very cool! i didnt realize this was a thing until recently. The way you do it makes a lot of sense. Thnx
I have never seen this before, awesome tip, will definitely give it a go.
Thanks very much for sharing, it’s much appreciated.
Sweet! I've heard of this but never seen it done. Thank's for the great demo.
I'm not sure if I was fortunate or unfortunate to learn this right away. Constantly dealing with bad fits as a beginner about 13 years ago I learned it ftom an older, better, more experienced welder. Since then I have used 70 series tig filler wire, 7018 without the flux, and 6010. As you said however, it is best only for non critical welds. It was nice to see someone else do this for a change. My last one was about a 5/8 gap, 6 inch pipe and just the bottom half (3 - 9). Of course, overhead, out of position, and very uncomfortable. At least it was a dump line. Great video.
I’ve done this a few times for gaps. Like the way your welder reignited so smoothly. My old miller dial arc may not be quite that smooth, oh well it’s like an old friend now!
Had to do this yesterday on a lawnmower deck. 1/16" stick rod 3/32 tig filler rod.
I really love this video, glad to see a trick of the trade being shown to the public. I first learned of this when i was 19 in trade school from a fellow welder, i at the time was still in the learning process and new to the trade. Didnt use it much other than like you said, got the fit wrong on a noncritical weld
Great Video! Love this oldschool knowledge. Keep it alive for us young folks
Thanks Bob, my pregnant sister in-law just came to me with a cracked alloy that needs bridging. This should work a treat!
alloy as in like a cars wheel? that’s not really something you want to do something like this on i’d think
Thank you SO much! This method saved my DIY project just recently. I bridged a bad gap and a hole I blew.
Excellent!
Great work Buddy, your lessons and demonstrations are amazing.
Thank you Sir for having a 50/50 shot , more vivid visual info
about 30 years ago I watched and old timer do this with a bare second electrode and it looked just like a regular weld he told me always take the coating off the second stick. I don't know what stick he was using but it worked great. anyway thanks for this It brings back some things I learned many years ago. I am not a pro at welding but always want to learn new ways
I learn't this off an old fella one day doing a sawmill shut, got the old "watch this boy you might learn something" speech haha, was awesome to see him do it on a section of chip shooting, have used it heaps since that day
I was under the impression that all the welders knew this. Learned this on my own in the field on my first weld job. In a perfect world all fits are tight but in the real world that's not the case and this Tijuana tig comes in real handy. Time saver on those non critical joints although this can pass U.T. from personal experience...
I've done that while MIG welding but I used tig filler it worked out great
Funny you say that, I use ER 70 S6 filler from a MIG machine when doing 16 gauge steel with TIG. S6 flows better than S2. And the filler rod is free ;)
Really a great bunch of info. Bob you're such a natural teacher
I like this. Looks like a great way to teach someone the hand motions for tig without the grief of learning to tig at the same time.
Great video, good explanations as always.
It had been really nice to see a cut edge of this welds, just to be able to compare what is going on.
I've done this using 1/4" concrete reinforcement wire as the filler rod. It's even easier if you just lay the rod into the gap and weld over it if the metal is thick enough to handle the heat.
Don't get caught doing that on a worksite or you'll be sent home or even sued for malpractice.
It's ok for hobby stuff, welding things around the houses etc but not for professional use, not so much because it's weak but because no insurance company will cover it shall something go wrong.
And if you take your time with it, it will be as strong as a proper weld, way better than bridging it with another bead.
I once filled a crack in our tractor's chassis this way and it's still fine almost 4 years later so it's plenty strong.
@@lazar2175 lol glad you said that said someone might have took it and ran with it😂
@@hazymist_872 We've had a dude on worksite use coins to bridge the gap. Let's just say the supervisor didn't like how he "stacked dimes".
I swear Bob moffatt the welding prophet could weld a popsicle to a piece of 1/4 inch and not even melt it. Awesome video.
That's pretty nifty. I've had to do that several times. But we always broke the flux off first and ran it at about 140. Try that and see what it get ya. Keep the videos coming.
I used to use this method a lot to fill gaps. I've always used 7018 taking the flux off the filler wire. I don't do it much anymore, because like you, I take more pride in making better fits first. But in a pinch it helps.
Thanks for your videos...one of the best teachers on the web ! I learn new things every time !
I had one of our older/wiser welders show me this trick several years ago. I use it quite often filling cracks that have opened up. Only thing is, he told me to knock the flux off the filler rod, but after seeing this video, looks like you get a better weld leaving the flux on. Good to know.
From Panama Republic, very well explained.Crystal clear views. Thank you
I had a guy show me this when I first started doing portable construction welding it came in handy when working with a horrible fitter. Thank you
I have always just laid the second rod in the gap and then welded over it, even done that where it required two rods side by side when I had nothing around as a backing, also used plain hot rolled round.
awesome videos! what I really like is the conversion to the metric system when you give information about the thickness!
Really good shots of the weld puddle. Great photography
Thank you for reminding me of when I had to fill a big gap. Nice job fella, your hired.
that was really cool to watch your technique develope in real time.
A good point on the non-critical aspect. I've wished I could X-ray welds I've done so I can relate what I see and experienced with the actual quality. That said, I've been doing this technique for a while when trying to stick two pieces of metal back together and lack the time or space to properly fit them. The most recent time, though, the weld was so shoddy that I ended up cutting the broken re-re-re-welded bits off, ground the surfaces clean, welded new pieces on to replace the bits I cut off, and had a much better, cleaner weld. I also altered the bracket I was working on so that the stresses weren't trying to rip it off in use. The more of these videos I go through, the more I learn how to weld better. I hate fixing the same thing twice!
I learned this out in the field it works I've been using it for years when I tell people just get a Texas tig a lot of people tend to look at me funny and I've been doing I've been welding for 20 years
I learned that back in the late 70's from my dad that was is a pipe welder and that's how i got started to TIG welding
Funny to see this new stuff. We were always taught to use the rods as a backer or 2 cold stringers w a hot cap, and welding downhill was a absolutely not. Always cool to see the new stuff. Thanks, learn a lot here
Bob, used this application for several years on gaps. Another thing I do is keep a box of horse shoe nails handy for gaps. They are tapered and can work in several different types of spacings. Of course you don't feed the HS nail into the gap. You place it in the gap and tack it in place. Then do your weld over the top of the nail. Fills the gap and makes a nicer weld.
I've used this technique a little bit myself, but i find it works a little better if i break most of the flux off of my filler rod. Great video!
was going to say the same thing, but I'd like more info if it's bad practice or not
@@PeteAmes19 technically i'm sure it's a terrible practice, but in the shop it works in a pinch.
Thx for the lesson on Tex tig. Love your channel. Keep up the good sparks!!
Great job as usual Bob. Keep the vids coming.
You always learn something new I'm always building little things out of scrap metal an have this issue I'll have to try this always get excited when I see a new video from u all
Thank You for the video. I was hoping to see this.
Thank you for filling the Imperial-Metric gap too. Very good video! You got a subscriber.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Great video, Bob. So nice to see a fellow lefties at work, too!
I worked with a guy who showed me this and it's a trick to do it. Good video.
I wish I had you teaching my last class! Your so good at it! Merry Christmas!
Awesome display of skills!
For the home DIY'er, this is absolutely great, cant wait to make a trailer now ^^
Fun demonstration, sir. Thank you for sharing this. I had to use it only a few times, mostly just lay down fluxless rod and weave over now and then, but ya, for critical, then ya gotta do all the backgrinding, buthey, nothing fits perfects always...... Thanks to you for this.
Great video. Very helpful demonstration.
I love your videos there so educational and helped me out sooo much