EXTREME Dead Stick No Fuel Carrier Landing Skill Competition - Sep 2022 | DCS WORLD
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Damn CAP that first landing was some serious skill. Bad ass.
*** @ CAP/GR Skill Idea. 2 Carriers 2 groups of players. 1st to complete a launch and Recover wins. - Like a round Robin.
Oh god. The mid-air refueling version of this is gonna be chaos. I’m excited to see how that plays out.
Can they drive the refueling plane to adjust for the gliding plane
@@MattyJ55046 With the upcoming C130 full fidelity (which will include a tanker version) you could have teams doing similar.
I love the fact that the guys are willing to try planes like the Mig and F5 😂
I'm surprised the pilot standing on the deck lasted as long as he did. He finally got run over by the Mirage at 30:50.
My dad used to take me up in his glider when I was young and I can confirm that even at relatively low speeds the roar of the wind past the cockpit is pretty loud.
I believe the hornets were flipping over because they are aerodynamically unstable and without the FCS to keep them stable they can get stuck in inverted flat spins and such. Using the recover switch won't work as that switch just lets controls go beyond what the FCS will allow and the FCS is already unpowered.
I think that’s also the case with the ASC mode on the su 27 and 33
I knew Cap would stick the landing. He's always reliable like that.
Please do a B-25 DOOLITTLE RAID if it is possible...
Didn't they all ditch and never get to the target?
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I think some got through and bombed Tokyo then ditched in China.
Grim Reapers have actually done an episode using Hercules months agom
There's a technique for losing altitude. It's called crossing the controls. You apply opposite aileron and rudder and side slip while keeping the nose down and keeping lined up on the extended runway (or carrier landing deck) centreline. Don't overspeed the flaps - in fact with flaps out you fly to the very end of the white arc on the ASI. Depending, sometimes the flaps are left up in an engine out situation until a landing is assured.
BTW, doing big 'S's' as you were doing on approach to lose altitude is an actual technique that is taught.
Also prop planes when they have an engine out you put the pitch control into full feather as a windmilling prop is very bad for drag.
Some single engine prop planes may not have a fully feathering prop so retard the lever to full coarse pitch. Many constant speed props go to full feather automatically by means of counterweights on the prop blades to reduce pilot workload in emergencies but some don't.
That's why you see many turboprop powered aircraft parked on the apron with the blades in full feather.
Typically you'd know your rate of descent at best glide speed and if you spawned at say 12,000ft over the carrier you'd fly a pattern that took you away from the carrier as if you were flying a normal circuit and approach.
So say you lose 2000ft/min @180kt you have 6min flight time. Maintaininging strictly 180KIAS, you'd fly say 1 minute left, 90secs downwind, 1 minute cross wind and 90 seconds final and have 1 minute or 1000ft up your sleeve to configure flaps and landing gear.
Of course you need to make allowances for the turns so you'd turn say 10-15 seconds earlier than the numbers mentioned for each of the legs.
Crabbing to bleed speed is going to block airflow to the engines and will stop flowing and you'll lose hydraulic pressure.
Yeah crossed controls would be fine in an older plane with direct linkage to flight surfaces, but here, engine windmilling is essential to maintaining hydraulic pressure
thxx
@@rubiconnn side slips are used to drop altitude without gaining speed as an actual pilot it’s a technique I use quite often as long as you stay at a good speed slipping should be just fine
@@Utubesuperstar Of course but it's completely different if you are doing a dead stick landing in an aircraft that needs high airflow to windmill the engines and your flight surfaces completely stop working if your engines stop windmilling.
This was awesome. Def need more of this
That was awesome, as a patreon please don't give this up! Be there soon, lol
GR Skill Competitions rock!!!👍👍
No fuel, whaatttt?!?!?😕
Dead Stick Carrier Landings!?!?!?!😮
Are these lads mad??? Nay, I say they crazy!!!!... Or just slightly drunk...🤣🤣
I can just imagine it... GR pilots dropping in as they line up the approach with engines roaring...Oh yeah, no fuel so no engine roaring.... hmmm....and no warning lights or messages, because no fuel...sooo what can I look forward to???? 😕
Oh yeah, there will be crash, right...but no fires, because no fuel...😏
But crashes are a time-honored GR tradition, so...
Go Crashes...😁👍👍
lol Red
@Grim Reapers it's great to see you fooling around again. But.... where's the Canyon Runs?
CANYON RUNSSSSS!!!!!
lol at Cap's hangover voice....
no one likes mega hangover.
Had no idea Barbosa from Trilogy Media, was a Grim Reaper!
Fun fact. I was in the Air Guard as a power production guy. Part of our AFSC is aircraft arresting barriers. When I was deployed to a country that shall not be named, an F-18 had an in flight emergency. Because it was loaded with bombs the pilot had two options...hook our barrier or eject near his carrier. I wasn't on the barrier crew most of the time but had trained a bit with them. My buddy and I were refueling generators around the airfield when the call came in. We both witnessed the F-18 "catching" the cable and running out to a stop. The pilot said to us later that at first he thought he missed the cable. Air Force barriers are much more gentle. He had a 1000 foot runout as opposed to a 100 foot runout on a carrier. One cool night in 4 months of boredom and drudgery.
I think this might be what the concept of 'zen' is all about.
I'm having a really good think about something right now, have been doing so for nearly an hour.
and while I have that think..... I am simultaneously 100% engaged and entertained by this video, I know exactly whats going on; but it hadn't crossed my mind one... until just then, when the dog came over for some fuss.
I shall attempt to explain this to people, but I don't think I'll get many converts.
Given the difficulty I'd like to see this with a 20 knot headwind which sounds fair enough and should help with the final flare and chute for those that have it
Great fun to watch!
Hmmm now I'm curious to see GR do a helicopter landing skill challenge where you have to autorotate a helicopter onto a carrier or smaller ship...
They did one of those a while ago, it had a carrier, and beyond that progressively smaller ships with more points for going further
If it lets me post the link, this was the vid from 2 years ago - maybe an update with the Apache?
czcams.com/video/mTZLqIbomxo/video.html
@@doemacmonkey I might have watched that one, but I don't remember them turning their engines off and autorotating in
Nice Video!
The multi-player desync made the MIG-21 landing look very interesting 🤣
Is there a 747 attempt?
With the crosswind, vector in against the direction of it, & aiming for the arresting cables, & then just before you come close to the stern, turn in line with the carrier deck, level the wings & pounce on the cables.
oh the joy. many smiles.
Try ejecting and landing your person on the carrier, closest to the pin (island) wins.
That would be hella interesting.
@@skyhorseprice6591 Extra points for hitting the meat hanging from the parachutes,,, with the prop. Muhowaaa. 😆
Happened in real life in the Med in 89 on the Roosevelt. S3 came in with a bad nose gear indication, they decided to run it across the deck with the hook up to make sure it was ok (classic case of planning for the best possible outcome). Nose gear collapsed on landing (HUGE SPARKS!!! OMG!! OMG!!), plane slid off the end of the landing area. Pilot (gi-GAN-tic balls) pulled up about 60 degrees, rolled right, called "Eject! Eject! Eject!" The copilot pulled the handle, his seat functioned, the other three jammed in place.
He shot across the boat's bow and his chute deployed when he was in front of the boat. He drifted down just as the boat came under him. He bounced off a vertical stab on one of the 14's parked on the bow and landed on the deck. He kind of collapsed like a sack of dirt, but his chute stayed inflated and started to pull him toward the fantail until one of the enlisted guys jumped on his cute and collapsed it. Absolutely amazing.
I saw him a day or two later down on the hangar deck, hobbling around on a cane. Seemed ok.
The pilot (remember the gigantic balls?) saved the plane. Got the plane into a sane flight regime, flew around for a long time to burn off fuel, cycled the gear, and flew a 3 wire approach into a barricade landing. All while burnt on his right side from the copilot's ejection seat going off next to him. Just ridiculous.
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🤣😂😹😅🤟🤟
@@skyhorseprice6591 That's my name, don't wear it out. LOL. Glad you had a laugh, that's what it's all about.
What a first landing Cap ...🙌🏻
Watching all those planes approaching the same carrier simultaneously was quite a sight, even in a simulator.
CAPPY!!! When can we see some Reliant Robin Dog fighting??? Lol
I would love that!
Harrier hen, good at getting to roost😂
You CAN rip your arrestor hook off in an F-14 in DCS... guess how I know :/
That looks fun!
F-86 Sabre VS A-10 Thunderbolt II
Mosquito VS Pucara
F-111 Aardvark VS MIG-27K
F4U Corsair VS A-1 Skyraider
F-1 Mirage VS Panavia Tornado
P-47 Thunderbolt VS SU-25 Frogfoot
J-7 VS MIG-21
J-10 VS SU-27
MIG-28 VS MIG-29
Super Tucano VS MIG-15
F-16I Sufa VS F-15STOL/MTD Fox2 Dogfight!
Please fly Planes on the left!🙏 However feel free to swap in some😁✌
Lol OV-10 Bronco VS EVERYTHING!😆👍
WOW super cool!!
20:50 Goodbye LSOs. 😂
Suggestion: DEADSTICK DOGFIGHTING!
Spawn in 30,000 ft above an airfield. 1 pt for surviving longest, 3pts for the kill, 2 bonus pts for landing it.
This works totally be my jam if I played.
On paper, round 2, is very doable. The problem is most people were still lining up on radial like they had engines to crab down the glideslope with, just needed to move the "radial" 2-300m to the left and let the crosswind push you onto the glideslope. That and it *isn't* on paper lmao
Okay, if not already, this inspires me to a game that I will call Jet Curling.
I will leave that to your collective imaginations 😁
lol my imagination is dangerous.
@@grimreapers That's what keeps us coming back 🤣
Love the dead body left on the runway lol
lol
nothing wrong with a few BARLEY POPS...lol
Seems like the trick to this is to pop gear as late as possible and aim beyond the end of the carrier. Since you're coming in at stall speed instead of full throttle, you can just dip right before the aft of the carrier and trade any overshoot for airspeed.
I think you should get to continue on if you eject and manage to land on Carrier
Good skills, Cap. Would an entertaining variation on this Dead-stick no-fuel scenario be to see who can eject and land the pilot on the deck while the airframe splashes clear away and causes no damage to the carrier? - In increasing winds
On the principle that the carrier air boss would be under instruction to not risk damage to the flight deck or risk harming the crew
And just for fun, lets assume the waters are so shark-infested that SAR would not reach a swimming pilot in time, before being eaten by sharks. If you like, you can say that the sharks are equipped with frikkin' lasers an ting.
(Or have you already tried this?)
The sea flanker is like a kite when it's clean and I can only assume an empty one is lighter than anything
So there was a winner after all. The Mig-21 of all things! :D
In essence, this is the Sarajevo approach, but to an aircraft carrier ; without the fundamental aircraft capacity, and ultra short/trap landings!
Guys, don't change a thing. Do this sort of "sh one t" for the next 20 years. Awesome!
A bit relevant but not too much, I drove from Scotland to the NEC the year IL2 Pacific fighter came out 400 years ago (it wasn't released at the time) for an erm PC/Gaming show. There was a ubisoft? booth with IL2 Pacific fighters (beta) with a joystick and throttle with a single land on the carrier approach mission available to test. I watched 6 people take forever to fail (they got 3 tries each). I took the stick, stuffed it into the carrier, 2nd attempt landed, won £70 worth (at the time) of MS FS maps and crap that I never used ever, was awesome but not as good as this vid, lol
On that first try Cap, you needed a RAT (Ram Air Turbine) to power the controls.
Dude on the deck at 30:45 got absolutely obliterated by the incoming mirage
Harrier has an undercarriage blowdown bottle initiated by an explosive cartridge. Once hyds go he won’t be able to put the gear down as the game doesn’t have it modelled. It also uses flying control accumulators which only give it a few inputs from the stick before he’ll lose all pressure. As far as i know a windmilling engine won’t give him hydraulics but I maybe wrong. Most aircraft have a blowdown Doyle for the gear which is a 1 shot emergency system.
I want u in the Wonneproppen ! :D
i love stuff and things
haven't reached the end.. but i wonder if a harrier could retain speed, go below the deck on approach, balloon up & almost stall onto the deck....
un-neccessary for most planes, but..
hey cap, so i was thinking the other day about how flying wing design planes would be affected by cross winds.
Without a vertical fin to the rear, there would be less weathercocking I guess, but don’t forget that a plane flies through a packet of air not over a packet of ground (that’s why you use airspeed not ground speed) so a flying wing would still be moved sideways by a crosswind
You could use your gear to slow you down? Some drag in the spin
My understanding is in the event of flame out you get high speed to spend the APU to restart the main engines so I guess in the event of no fuel the Apu would still Spin and generate electricity and hydraulics. I remember watching a story about the SR-71 from an SR-71 pilot who said they sucked the mock cone inside the engines and they both flamed out when they hit lock 5.3 or whatever the max +.2mach.
You should have just done it with engines on, but the throttle pulled back to idle. That way you have gauges and a HUD, but no thrust. Well done regardless. God save the King!
meh, sounds too easy :)
@@grimreapers lol Right you are. I keep underestimating the GR creed "if it isn't impossible, it's not worth doing!"
lmao, what a circus. Everyone talking at the same time.
Planes do fly a lot better with engines.
I wouldnt have thought it possible to even land on a carrier that was being a jerk going 0 knots and not driving upwind
31:00 speed 2 physics.
Are you guys going to do an Honor Flight for Her Late Majesty?
Yes but will take a few days to organise as ever.
🤣🤣🤣 this is way too funny
MVP goes to that mig you say that was nightmare?
Denys Davydov confirmed that Norway will send 160 hellfire units to Ukraine, would we be able to see those on a war games mission?
CAn you send me some more information about this in Discord please?
I can explain why it sounds like the piston engines are still running after they're off - this is actually accurate for a windmilling piston engine, because it isn't the combustion event that makes most of the engine noise, it's actually the mechanisms within the engine(valve train, timing gear, etc.) and some of it is airflow through the engine(including getting compressed and decompressing out the exhaust). At first it sounds a little ridiculous - but think about how damned loud piston air compressors are! Same thing.
Look up 'spintron' videos on YT to hear a V8 turned at full RPM while not running; they basically take an engine, remove the fuel & ignition components, hook a high HP electric motor to the crankshaft, and spin it over at whatever RPM they want(like full running engine RPM, over 10,000 even). They're used for valve train development, typically in very high RPM race engines. For instance, there was project a few years ago called 'project spinal tap'(YT it to hear it on a dyno) to develop an LS7 to turn over 11,000RPM(pushrods and all lol). Most of the development time spent trying different cams & springs on a spintron, it's pretty hardcore stuff lol.
corbahli needs to learn to roll and pull like everybody else. negative pitch rates and relaxed stability don't mix except in an inverted super stall. reaching for the moon is only gonna plant your face among the junipers.
Why not do 67 people landing on one Aircraft carrier, particularly the Forrestal?
Woo Hoo 1st
How in the world does he have that many friends that also play dcs
Would be great to see French carrier group versus UK carrier group. Rafale v f35
He's done that before
@@christopherfox7650 thanks just watched it. Would like to see an update that fixed some of the issues. Uk carriers don't have fixed wing awacs and the French ships didn't start firing because they lost their awacs. Also uk carrier got killed by friendly fire!
Wilco when I get the Meteor and Rafale missiles working properly.
I really don't think this is the first one where there are no winners.
Is dead stick anything like Thai stick?
Yes, but only you get smoked, not the stick.
When did Bane become a member of GR? lol
lol
What no dead stick carrier landing in a SR-71??? Lol
lol
Crosswind!? How lazy is the Carrier?
He is also out of fuel...
@@grimreapers 😂
Too many cooks.
Who is who in the photo?
If you go watch the video, you'll see the introductions. Along with the other airshow videos, you'll see more introductions of different members
czcams.com/video/e4PJCiBGklY/video.html
czcams.com/video/d616HRG9vH0/video.html
My girlfriend makes my tummy stick a dead stick 🥴
I seriously don't understand how people can hear over other people. All of you love talking over each other.
Some people just don't know when to stop
@@LiamTucker
For me, it's bad, I want to watch these videos but due to my limited hearing ability, it stops me. I am deaf in one ear and hard of hearing out of my other. I have around 40% hearing out of my right ear. I drive people crazy because people have to get my attention, most of the time I read lips to help me understand. On this game, I don't have the ability to read lips. So I have to focus on what is being said. When I repeat to people what I think they said. I get told No and they repeat themselves, this can go on until someone gets tired of talk with me.
So, when multiple people start talking everything becomes white noice.