Oscar De La Hoya Breaks Down the Floyd Mayweather Fight | Undeniable with Dan Patrick
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- čas přidán 18. 02. 2024
- Legendary Boxer Oscar De La Hoya talks about one of the top fights in his career, going against Floyd Mayweather.
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Floyd was on his bike and backpeddling the whole fight. Oscar won.
Agreed,Oscar did won that fight.
Slipping and blocking isn't on a bike.
He outlander Oscar a lot. Delusional Floyd haters in denial as usual. Ali had the same type of fools sooking about him when he made his opponents miss. Just redneck dumbasses
Naw
@@carloscolon4295
Foh Oscar faded down the stretch. Lost the championship rounds like he did in most of his big fights.
@@Stateballrus Floyd wasn't on his bike, he stood against the ropes and let Oscar throw ineffective flurries which he rolled, slipped or blocked. There are four criteria used to score a round in boxing. 1. Effective Agression 2. Ring Generalship 3. Defense 4. Clean Hard Punches. Oscar wild flurries weren't effective, and Mayweather get's credit for his defense, not to mention he landed the more clean punches. People don't understand, that when you throw a wild flurry against Mayweather and he makes you miss, that's scored for him. Mayweather is the most accurate puncher in the history of the point, hence why most fight will always be scored him. In the 2nd half of his career, he didn't throw as much, but when he did he landed clean and at a higher percentage than anyone else. He punches were clean, and his defense was off the charts. If you know boxing, He wont this fight easily 9-3. Good defense scores you points despite what people may believe. Floyd isn't a runner, which is someone just constantly moving around the ring so that neither fighter is ever in range to engage. He's defensive but he''s stand right there in front of you and let you throw wild flurries. He scores by making you miss, and countering. It also tires fighters out hence why so many guys seem to mysterious gas in the late rounds against him. People really need to learn how pro boxing works. It's not simply counting punches like the amateurs.
I saw it back in the day and Oscar was definitely the aggressive moving forward I know he won but for some reason they gave it to Floyd who was scared to fight Pacquiao in his prime
Was Mayweather in his prime when he fought Pacquiao and was he younger than Pacquiao?
I agree about Manny, but Oscar lost that fight. I have watched it many times and it's clear as day that he just wasn't landing significant strikes on Floyd.
But mayweather is older than pacquiao
@@Ro7ardno you haven’t 🥱 How tf do you say Manny beat Floyd and Oscar didn’t when Oscar had a closer fight than Manny did against Floyd ? Bruh you niggas in the comments say some dumbass shit I swear
He definitely beat Floyd,but Floyd also never ducked a fight.Pacquiao failed drug testing when they were going to fight.Not Floyd’s fault.When they did fight Floyd was older and out of his prime.Theres always excuses with Floyd.At the end of the day he fought and beat them all…to make him the Goat of his division and that’s facts.
Yes I gree with you Oscar you won that fight
You delusional as him
@@albertdaley9093 Exactly LOL
@@marvinbanks7052 they swear 4 rounds is winning
@@albertdaley9093 They are casuals
@@albertdaley9093 said by the delusional one 🥱
I’m Filipino-American but I grew up a huge De La Hoya fan. And it was so sad watching him get absolutely dismantled by Pacquiao, even though I was also a Pacquiao fan. I personally think Mayweather is the most overrated champ. I think he lost against Oscar & Jose Castillo. And he almost lost to Zab Judah
Don’t forget his first fight against maidona , look at Mayweather’s body language and face when they announce him as winner of that fight , it was so obvious that he was surprised ,his body language and face say it all all
Don't forget the first Chino fight!
@@Tbirdedwardstop crying
@@johnjuarez8005stop crying
You think Floyd is overrated yet he beat your idols; Pacquiao and De La Hoya. 😅
Not a big DLH fan (at least as a promoter) but despite being way past his best, he is right - he really did win that fight!
Every time I have watched it since, still the same verdict as the first time. They robbed DLH. Just like they did to Maidana and Castillo. He must have rented out his judge and referee to Haney against Garcia too. Too obvious. Sell outs.
Fraud Mayweather was a the greatest fraud Boxer that ever lived
keep crying ball sack breath
The Trinidad fight is one of the worst robbery’s I guess it happeneds to them all ha
Trinidad beat clearly Oscar take the L like a man
Ha you must be smoking he won the last few rounds felix but Oscar boxed his head off.
Oscar dela Hoya is cap after he loss to Floyd, he said Floyd was to good for him
Mayweather sr said post fight, if you go by single punches Mayweather Jr won. If you go by comnination punches Oscar won
Exactly that’s what he said!
No, he said, if you go by the point system, Oscar should have gotten the decision
@@obiclone that was his first statement, when larry pushed it on him 2, 3 times more he mentioned the combination amd single punches
@@obiclone of course and how is a fight scored ? How has Floyd won fights before? Judges score with points
Floyd sr said his cause he and his son was beefin and floyd sr trained delahoya. Oscar got his ass whopped.
I saw that fight live and rewatches it again.
De La Hoya got robbed.
I had Floyd by 2 points in a competive fight where Floyd took more punishement but won 7 rounds. Both prime Oscar and prime Shane beat Mayweather
I watched the fight many times and always gave a slight edge to Oscar, not by much though.
When the villain wins it's more than likely a valid and accurate decision.
I saw this fight live and I will say until the day I die, De La Hoya won this fight. Anyone disagrees with me can just kiss my ass. And not the left cheek and not the right cheek, but right down the middle.
Welp, you're DELUSIONAL until you die.😂😂😂😂
Lmfao hahahahhaha
You sound hurt 😂
@@DaChiliman_ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@DaChiliman_ Why do you think I want the kiss right down the middle.
Now while Oscar had some bad beats on terrible decisions (most notable vs Trinidad, and vs Mosley - 2) this one was not. I had Oscar up after 8 rounds 5-3, but he gassed out, and was tired letting Floyd turn it up and win the Final 4 Rounds and the fight 7-5. If Oscar wins one of those last 4 rounds its a legit draw, but Floyd's long term condition was better than most and definitely better than De LA Hoyas this fight. But a very good fight none the less
Just my humble
You need your eyes tested or you must be Mexican.
De La Hoya got hosed in the fights you mentioned. Gave Trinidad a beating, they say he ran the last 3 rounds ??? Compustat showed he land 75% more punches in the last 3 rounds. And I surely give Mosley 2 to Oscar as well, And I think as champion here, he could have got the decision. they have had it in for Oscar, He has ALWAYS fought the best, I think he's one of the greatest ever to step in the ring. My humble O
Your opinion is false floyd lost
@bayouboy8644 I'm guessing you misunderstood my post. I also think De Lahoya was robbed in Trinidad 1 and Mosley 2. And I also think Oscar was a true champion who fought everyone. But also with the same clear eyes that Floyd was down 5-3 to Oscar and Floyd took the last 4 rounds cause Oscar Faded.
It's my honest perception.
Just my Humble
Ya I had Floyd by a couple rounds in this fight. Oscar had the early lead and Floyd and team banked on the aging Oscar gassing down the stretch, which they alluded to in the corner during the fight also (Floyds team). I also had Oscar pretty handily beating Mosley in rematch and Trinidad. Mosley 1 was a legit loss for Oscar and this Floyd fight but Oscar was also 6 years or more past prime facing Floyd. (also dealing with his addictions too by then) I think Oscar peaked around 1997-99 if memory serves. It is disgusting they robbed him in 2 of his biggest career defining fights (Tito and Mosley 2)
I can't stand Mayweather. He's a coward and ducked people who were in their prime. But he won this fight. I'm a De La Hoya fan, for me he's the opposite of Mayweather. He fought all comers and didn't wait or hesitate.
The fuck did he duck? Dr la Hoya ducked him till he was 33.
He's the opposite of Mayweather alright. We don't have pictures of Mayweather wearing lingerie 😂😂😂😂
I wouldn't like to admit I got my ass whopped by a guy that wears lingerie. @@mankivigs1
You mean floyd lost
Go on then who did he duck ?
they robbed him vs Trindidad and Mosley 100%
No
Against Trinidad yes, he lost to Moseley
@@Marveliitonot the second fight though
Trinidad beat clearly the chicken dela hoya
Im not a fan of either of these fighters but I remember feeling that De la Hoya was robbed!
Dela Hoya won that fight and was catching Floyd with combinations on the rope,Floyd just was looking pretty catching most of his shots on Oscar's glove.
Oscar said he was an old 33 year old boxer. Floyd was 30 when they fought. Knock it off!
You're an idiot. Oscar is 5 years older than Floyd. Learn some facts before posting ignorant shit.
Not 5 year lol excuses @rockymypug
It was true he wasn’t focused on boxing anymore been knocked out and already made millions
Floyd was 36 when he fought a 23 year old canelo
Floyd had a draw with past his prime oscar
I always thought Oscar should have gotten the decision. It was a good fight though and close enough to go Mayweather by less than honest Judges. I think a 25 year old De la hoya would have won a clear decision or possibly a knockout. Two of the best of their era for sure.
Make the fight so clearly obvious that you can't question the judges
Easier said then done.
Floyds face says it all !!! He knew he lost
They all said they won their fight with Floyd.. True Goat 🐐
Very nice interview, Oscar seams honest and brilliant. Nice work from Patrick.
If Oscar won he would have been given the victory. He was the more popular fighter. Floyd was the villain. So Floyd showed more skill and ring control. Oscar abandoned the jab and was constantly countered.
Bs watch the fight l.Im a Floyd fan but De la Hoya beat him on the punch count.Even Mayweather senior said it
@@clintondillon6109 he didn't beat him on the punch count. Oscar threw more punches but landed FAR less..
That's right. Oscar was the cash cow. Mayweather had never fought at 154. Smaller ring. Bigger gloves. Etc, even with everything against, Floyd still won. Not by a lot, but he won
@@michaelangelo5580 Oscar was the face of boxing. The more popular fighter. Floyd was the young upstart villain. Oscar would only fight him if he moved up to 154. Floyd wasn't even 154 on fight night. Hell he couldn't weight 154 soak and wet. Oscar probably came in 160+ pounds that night. Oscar chose the weight, gloves, ring size, location, purse split, ring girls, and probably the damn clean up crew. He put everything in his favor to win the fight and still lost. Like you said, it was close but Floyd still won. Oscar is still pissed because Floyd never gave him a rematch. Floyd had to practically beg and insult Oscar to get a shot and wanted Oscar to beg him for a rematch but Oscar had too much pride for that and basically said FK off. "I'll never beg your little azz" LOL.
@@takedat8751 yes, most ppl don't realize what Floyd had to do to get the fight. The judges were always going to favor Oscar. But even they saw Floyd winning. I thought it was close, but clear that Floyd won. Floyd nearly knocked Oscar out too with a counter in round 5
Oscar won that fight. You have to beat the champion clearly to take his title. This is why Floyd fought the majority of his fights in Las Vegas and never out of the US. He was always assured of the outcome. He also lost to Maldana 1 and Castillo clearly beat him.
Absolutely won that fight. Took it to flashy Floyd.
Oscar done well in that fight considering how good floyd was at that time but Floyd won that fight he definitely landed the cleaner shots . Both men are legends.
Making Mayweather the all-time great is beyond laughable. Imagine him against Roberto Duran in Duran's prime, and no sense at all to put Floyd in the ring with Sugar Ray Robinson, who IS!!! the best fighter of all time!
You don't know boxing
@@delmarfo ... Really? Argue with Ring Magazine, not me delmar. You most likely know ZERO about Ray Robinson, and won't bother to research him to learn why EVERY boxing mag, and experts like Teddy Atlas, Angelo Dundee, etc. place Sugar Ray Robinson as the ALL-TIME pound for pound champ, and certainly above Mayweather! Do your homework and find out why! There will not be movies made about your man. Why do you think Raging Bull was made? Yes, fighting Robinson was that big of a deal for LaMotta ... AND, I doubt you know of LaMotta either!!!
Duran quit lol floyd never quit and he lost almost all his big fght against hearn hagler benitez Leonard lol no excuses bum@sas6561
@@FlorentStuartKetchamiTchouleng ... omg! ... Duran was WAY past his prime as the greatest lightweight the world had yet seen, in your "examples". His prime is where he got his "Hands of Stone" name, and where he would have pulverized Mayweather, who would have kept up turning his shoulders, backing up, running as long as he could, before Hands of Stone took him out in the fourth or fifth. No contest, toe to toe, and Mayweather could hide for only so long!
@sas6561 the prime excuses lol floyd was past prime after the oscar fight lol. Pretty boy Floyd's was floyd prime.
I wanted Oscar to win, but he lost. Ineffective aggression, landed little in the majority of the rounds. At the time I thought Floyd edged it, but watching back I thought Floyd won 116-113. It’s a fight I had to watch without emotion.
People forget that at the time floyd sr and jr had beef and they split.......actually floyd sr gave him advice on how to fight jr.......so him saying that is bias towards the guy he was training
DLH made Floyd looo like a fool especially with those body punches and that jab 😂
Accuracy won the fight that night. Oscar was doing the mexican style pitbull cruz type of boxing but floyd is the master of defense and the philly shell so he made oscar look silly at times . Im a huge oscar fan but mayweather was just next level
RIGHT TBE
The problem is when Oscar is throwing those punches Floyd is not throwing. Can't give Flyod those rounds
@@damirrogers3484
1. Sweet Pea vs Oscar, Sweet Pea got robbed.
2. Mayweather vs. Oscar, Oscar gets robbed.
3.compUpact is the best judge.
Lmfao pit bull Cruz style when Oscar fought way before Cruz lol
Just throwing wild punches and missing
When you spent a lot of money on the game,definitely it’s a sure win
Floyd won but Oscar was a tough fight got respect for him as a fighter I always said he was the greatest mexican boxer ever.
As a fan of Boxing, and honestly I do not like De La Hoya, but He did win the fight against Mayweather no CAP
Oscar was the cash cow at the time there’s no reason the judges wouldn’t give the underdog the W if they didn’t win
Believe it or not OSCAR did win that fight and thats second time Floyd lost.First fight with Jose Luis Castillo he lost also. Watch both fights and you Judge.
If that's the case they gave you the sweet pea fight and gave Floyd that fight in the same manner
I remember feeling Oscar won that fight, and after watching again he definitely won. You can see the relief in Floyd when the judges announce he won.
It was a tough fight. His toughest fight to me. 7-5 Floyd.
Floyd’s face said it all lmao
@@raymondcody1858 you wanted Floyd to lose. That’s all that is lol. He didn’t. Get over it. 3 judges said otherwise in both fights. Fights that appear close. Somebody wins and somebody loses. And if Floyd lost I definitely wouldn’t crying about it 22 years later 😂😂😂😂. Clown. Get over it.
Floyd schooled him. If you think Oscar won that fight, you're counting punches that missed. Floyd cruised the championship rounds too
@@MrSupplementScene it was a tough fight, but Floyd got him 7-5.
Oscar still ain't over It 😂
Oscar lost!!!
Watch the fight back with 0 volume. Oscar did win that fight. Oscar was the effective aggressor. Oscar was the ring general. Oscar pressed the action and landed more punches. Floyd missed A LOT of punches in that fight. Floyd's back was against the ropes the entire time. Floyd hit Oscars gloves all night. Many of Floyd's punches were not landed punches even though they were counted as landed punches. Even Floyd Mayweather Sr admitted to Larry Merchant that Oscar beat his son inside the ring right after the fight was finished🤷If Floyd loses that fight then the whole trajectory of boxing would have changed for the better. Instead, we are now left with a sport where "picking opponents" is the norm and fighting the best is simply a thing of the past. But I scored the fight 115-113 for Oscar. Oscar won the middle rounds with ease. And keep in mind that Oscar was old at this time...And he STILL beat Mayweather imo💯
@@regularbob you wrote all that just to realize Oscar still Lost tho oh aight then
No, they robbed oscar with bought judges , stay asleep
@@regularbob yes please watch the fight with zero volume. Lampley and Merchant were HATING on floyd like a usual HBO fight. This was floyds first fight at 154 (came in weighing in at 150) and de la hoya outweighed him at least 15 pounds on fight night. De la hoya made mayweather wear those big heavyweight gloves instead of choosing any other gloves floyd was comfortable with. Watch them standing in front of each other and see how much bigger floyds gloves are. Floyds back was on the ropes because he wants to be on the ropes. He moves around the ring and he is so comfortable that he can lean on the ropes and not get hit. He was slipping in counter punches every time after oscar threw a bunch of punches. A perfect example is the 5th round when oscar was throwing and mayweather had him stumble, landing shots from oscar being so wild. He literally moves the same way in every fight. And how is this "picking opponents?" Oscar was the WBC light middleweight champion. He had been calling out de la hoya for YEARS before de la hoya actually fought him. Now i do think it was a close fight so im not saying mayweather won every round... but im curious.. what did your scorecard look like? which rounds did you give to oscar? Lederman is very accurate (imo) when it comes to judging and he still gave the fight mayweather. And who cares what mayweather sr said? Hes not a judge and he was barely a fighter lmao. Hes a great trainer but there was a lot of drama between mayweather and his father around that time. His dad had left his sons gym to get help another fighter cause he felt unappreciated in his sons camp. Of course he was salty lmao
He did
I always felt that Oscar was throwing too many punches and missed a lot. Just because you’re being aggressive doesn’t mean you’re better
Wanted a winning chance but put mayweather in damn near heavyweight gloves then chose the weight…..he was the A side as they say and put up a spectacular performance,left Floyd swollen but……. 🤷🏾♂️
Boxing scoring is kinda weird, yeah it is great to slip through punches but you still have to punch for points. Mayweather won a ton of fights just by slipping through with very minimal punches per round.
“Old 33 year old” is crazy
He had a lot of tough fights some boxer are young at 33 others are.old. Canelo is a bit worn for his age too.
@@letsgettothemarks that’s a fair way to put it, he does look different in his fights. I just don’t think 33 is old in general for fighters. I think saying he’s past his prime is more appropriate
I have watched back and scored this fight numerous times. And like many, i believe its Floyd's only loss. But, hey... officially undefeated. Not Floyd's fault
Absolutely
It was close going into 11-12. Oscar gassed and got outworked those rounds. 7-5 Floyd
watch the fight in slow motion you can see what punches landed and which ones didn't
You must be slow
I watched the fight with the TV upside down and its true, Oscar won the fight
@@shambles2723 i didn't say he won it. i just don't trust punchstats punches landed in general. oscar gassed out in the latter rounds.
Oscar you didn’t run hold and cry enough to score points. Like half his fights.
De La Hoya changes his mind about this fight every few years.
The fight could’ve gotten anyway. It’s closer than we remember, Mayweather even went on a fake retirement to avoid the rematch, and even Floyd se though his own son lost
@@mountaindew3201 he rematch didn’t happen because De La Hoya wanted him to agree to the same terms. He wasn’t willing to fight Floyd @ 47, but he killed him self to fight Manny @ that weight. Go figure.
@@NattyTurnaOfficial BS, theirs was a clause and mayweather went to fake retire to avoid the rematch. the weight class wasn’t an issue, de la Hoya would’ve done it at 147 since 155 was too much for Mayweather.
@@mountaindew3201 the money and weight was a issue. De La Hoya wouldn’t accept that yesterday’s price is not today’s price. He came back at the end of the year and fought Hatton, and proved that fact. You don’t know what you are talking about at all.
@@NattyTurnaOfficial the rematch was in no plans for 2007. But there was a clause that would’ve expired within 2 years. And that’s exactly what Mayweather did by going to his fake retirement and then he retired
Yeah he was the aggressor and throwing combinations but most of his punches were missing
Close close fight I did have De La Hoya by a point or at least deserved a draw
Delahoya definitely won
Oscar knows how American boxing is like. He's also aware how Vegas works. And how media trolls are like all together.
That doesn't work for black fighters everyone wants the black guy to lose
Oscar won that fight . I watched it live
As a Mexican American from East LA, Oscar had that in the bag through 8 rounds when he started cruising because he thought he won already
I was never a De La Hoya fan when he was fighting. But he definitely won that fight.
People forget at this point de la Hoya was inactive, towards the end of his career, and was previously KOed, pretty much over the hill and no where near what he once was.
Yeah, I wonder how a Prime De La Hoya woulda done on that night.
Because we all know hes a cokehead. Proves that dr*g is bad for our health
This is the most ridiculous comments section I’ve ever seen. I was an Oscar fan but Floyd clearly won. Oscar abandoned his jab late and that’s why he lost.
Boxers always think they won. He hella got beat😂
He didn’t coz he coasted the second half of the fight, left it to the judges and that his miscalculation
Floyd’s face says it all. He thought he lost
Now they're trying to do the same to Ryan Garcia. The "American media" attempts to discredit Garcia's win vs Haney.
Mayweather buys the judges and it was a steal ,De La Hoya won that fight
of course
Oscar whooped his ass it was close but Oscar whooped that ass.
I saw that fight floyd was stronger faster ..BUT the reason theres doubts was because fooyd really didnt use his speed and punches more often i mean fooyd condition was out of this world everytime he punch de la hoya was like ohh forget it he will eat de la hoya tonite BUT then u see him running not getting involved in the fight ect and hey i wouldn't mind if de la hoya get the decision but because de la hoya didnt dominate either it was ok if floyd win to me a draw would have been absolutely great for both specially for the la hoya
Close fight Mayweather edged Oscar but ducked Oscar for the rematch and retired
I scored it a draw I don’t think Floyd won
the reaction looked like floyd lost the fight .. in some world it made sense . Must earth still continue? 💪🙏
I'd have to rewatch it but it was pretty damn close, that's why Mayweather didn't want a rematch. Pretty lame for a prize fighter
He was the A side he made Floyd wear 🥊🥊 heavyweight 🥊🥊 gloves he was scared 😳 of Floyd
The challenger should KO the champion. If you go by score cards and it’s a close fight it should automatically go to the champion. That’s an unwritten rule in combat sports.
Gay weather for all the melanin brothers 😂😂
😅 Oscar was not even close. He never mentioned anything about the glove selection. Floyd couldn't even select his own gloves. How he wanted to handicap Floyd Mayweather . To throw alot of meaningless shots, is not the sweet science of boxing.
OSCAR WON !!!
YUP…THANK YOU
IVE SAID THIS SINCE THIS FIGHT
HAPPENED
judging by their faces at the end the fight, floyd took the most damage, but im guessing floyd still won it depending how u score it.
Oscar won, no doubts about it
Oscar won but was extremely close and Floyd getting it wasn’t a robbery
Oscar definitely beat Floyd.
Whomever thinks Oscar won this fight should give up watching Boxing. He lost about 8-4. Its the same kind of people who think Castillo was robbed.
It was a great fight. Wonder how much money Oscar made as fighter and promoter.
Oscar won hands down for me
F no he didn't win. Oscar is my favorite fighter of all-time. The second Oscar stopped the jab, he lost that fight....now if you wanna talk about the Trinidad fight, he easily won that fight eventhough he ran towards the end. He outclassed trinidad(when he stood with him)
I would have to go back and watch the fight Oscar was winning the fight early was working off his jab, then he stopped using his jab, and he was not landing when you went back and watched the fight. Floyd came back and won the fight, but he was clearly behind
To be fair, it was a fight that could have gone either way. Not the most entertaining.
nothing floyd does is entertaining
I had Floyd winning the fight by 1-2 rounds. Oscar won the first half with Floyd banking on the aging (also addicted) version of OScar gassing in the final half and he did. But man, one more round on 1 judges scorecard and that fight was a draw. Oscar was about 5-6 years past his prime too.
Watching it that night I thought Oscar won. Watching it years later I thought Floyd got it.
Why then you thought he won compared to now
Well you thought weong oscar won
So is a draw!? common you can't have it both way...Oscar won
That booger sugar and Caronas got you believing that
Watch when the ring announcer says and new… Floyds head drops thinking he lost…1:37
Oscar don’t try to make excuses now, you abandoned the jab because of Floyd’s famous counter-right, it was a great fight, and you lost a fair one. Don’t make excuses 15/16 years later. Floyd beat the best in boxing, from Maidana, to Pac Man to De La Hoya. The list goes on… Give respect where respect is deserved. 50-0. TBE
Oscar won that fight
De La Hoya definitely won
Oscar stopped using the jab. That’s why he lost. It was working so well. Then he just stopped using it.
his lock of technique avoided him from winning top fights
much respect to you oscar ,, you one of the best.. always a big fan...
Yall can debate about it all you want but that L still belongs to oscar 😅🤣🤣🤣😂
Now 33 is old🥱
Floyd knew he lost too
Floyd won, not by much it was clear. Cleaner shots, more accurate. Oscar was sloppier with the flurries. Im a oscar fan also. If oscar was more aggressive and a bit more accurate then he would’ve won.
Oscar won by outboxing Floyd by beating him n the inside counter punches Oscar always got the better of it Floyd sr himself said Oscar won by points so how do you explain that huh with excuses