My ex boss had this happen,even after the police told the HOA it was illegal,then used a torch to cut the boot off. We spent the next couple of days cutting boots off the neighbor's cars. If a boot popped up,we cut it off. We collected the remains and dropped some on the HOA presidents lawn and some on the lawn of the self appointed "parking enforcement officer". They called the cops and said we destroyed their property and the cops said that since they were already told that booting cars was illegal,people can remove them anyway they can.I miss that miserable old bastard boss.He always was good for a laugh.
Robert james I had a friend who did the same with a torch, he was a welder and was parked on the public road, and a private security guard put a boot on his work truck so he just lit his torch and cut it off right in front of the guard, great day, he later sent the company a bill for the acetylene as a joke
Glad I don't live in america and we don't have to deal with that type of shit. The only regulations we have in France depends entirely on two things: -The city (as in the mayor and the cultural image (we'll get to that later). -The district you're in (you can't build a 4 floor house if your district only allow 2 floor houses, once again because of the city). And that's it, the only limitation you have are basically practical more than anything, no one bitching about the colors of your walls, your flowers, where you park your car (as long as it doesn't bother anyone) etc... In my street, just in my street, my neighboor on my left has his painted in a lime green and the one of my right has his painted in some kind of red-ish orange and no one care but them, it's their problem.
What kind of a person wants to live in an HOA? I live in the country with no neighbors just to get away from fights. Who makes these silly rules anyway
They only way I can live as close to the ocean as possible is to live in a place with a HOA. My HOA is mostly non-existent anyway. I can do what I want actually. I pay them $120 per year and the main reason is: my homes value has increased almost $30k since living here and I have yet to do any remodeling. I could sell my home right now and make a great profit. Investing is wise. Try it sometime.
HOA is nothing more than the landlord for the house that you purchased. It's literally the worst of both worlds, you still have to go through all the hassle of buying a home and being responsible for it AND all the hassle of living under the rules of someone else and abide by strict regulations of how you live in your home.
@@browncatwithblurredbackgro2461 That's a towable offense anywhere regardless of HOA. You don't need to live in an HOA to prevent people from blocking your driveway.
Basically Communistic China in America is what ah HOA truly is normally ran by Karen's and Kens that only want to pocket the money they get by makin up bullshit laws for their little powow group. When shit hits the fan that pass the blame on each other or dissolve like the witches they are. You basically give up your rights to be in HOA.
And even that isn't legal for them to do. Blocking a side walk is a pretty cheap parking violation (police come and write you a ticket). Otherwise it's YOUR property. I wonder how much that boot is worth for scrap metal....
literally thought the exact same thing. Instead of just being a decent person and asking them to move their vehicle, let's put a boot on it to prevent them from moving it at all and continue causing the problem.
i had a little event occur with my HOA a few years back. im a certified welder and have a welding truck which i use for work. i always parked it in my driveway. this went just fine for over 4 years. suddenly we have this new parking enforcement company. i got my truck booted ,i went to the office as i had peremission to park in my driveway. the company refused and i paid 85 bucks. i began parking the truck in the garage. well i was doing some work in the backyard and the front garage door was open. i was floored to find my truck booted inside mydamn garage. i went to the office and im pissed ok. they refused saying that no one wants to see that truck. now i might add that my truck was beautiful. new paint chrome everything and always clean. before i left the office i said i will not pay. i was then told that i should enjoy my time off as im not going to work. how stupid that guy was is astounding. i have extensive metal working tools and i took my cutting torch out cut that damn thing off .i drove to the enforcment office and booted the bosses car but i welded it together.no key was opening that one. well guess what people i was never bothered again. they underestimated my level of contempt and revenge.
I cannot tell you how many times I bumped heads with my previous HOA. It almost made living in my home oppressive. They had me remove rocks that were placed at the bottom all around my outside fence even THOUGH the original builders designed it that way. They never said a word about it until I moved in with my family. I spent 2 hours carrying those heavy rocks one by one. Then a couple months later they said I had to cut the bushes of my small tree outside where they were starting to impede people walking on the side way and cars on the street. It wasn't that long and I was walking right under them just fine, but I thought fair enough. So I cut them, about 3 feet above my head and I'm 6 ft. And on the street same, about 6 ft above my SUV. They sent letters again saying I had to cut it shorter. AND I had to fix a golf ball sized hole in my white fence. I swear I saw red after those letters. I patched the hole with White tape. Took an Axe and chopped the tree down, loaded it in my truck and dumped it. They sent an angry letter with a fine for chopping the tree and I called them and played dumb. Asking I thought THEY did that? And they continued to accuse me of chopping the tree to which I kept stating I did not and thought it was HOA so I thought nothing of it. And I got very defensive and said if you think I chopped it down then show me a video of me chopping it down, otherwise I'm calling the cops for harassment. They withdrew the fine and never sent me a letter again. Long grass. Weeds. Even painted parts of my house different color. Never said shit after that about anything. Lol
@@stevemiller1517No. Normally they're Alt Right Nazi's. You know the kind, they want everyone to conform to thier 'family values' while they make you pay for the 'priveledge' of being under their thumb.
One time I was in the Pennsylvania mountains. I was lost and found myself in a remote little village. They had cars up on blocks. Washing Machines on the porch, little gardens, sheds, and working on cars in the yard. I felt like I was in God's country.
Some folks will put old coaches and washing machines in the front of their homes and leave trash and broken cars around the yard, simply don't maintain their homes. If you don't want to live near those folks you can CHOOSE to live in an HOA community, where EVERYONE in the community signs the same contract (which defines the rules) voluntarily. This protects the home values in the community and those homes generally cost more because they are cleaner and better looking neighborhoods. The community members vote in the leadership of the association. But people in general don't want to be called out when they do break the rules they agreed to abide by.
@@nightdipper5178there are already city ordinances against people leaving trash in their front yard. You can call the city/county they will be fined and forced to clean up. You don't need to pay another bunch of people to bully your neighbors into not being slobs. Your taxes cover that. Here in Canada HOAs are not popular because we already know or rights and what our taxes cover. Most Americans that have spoken to seem to not have a good understanding as to what the government is supposed to be doing for the taxes that you were paying. My friends from Texas keep saying they don't want the government in their business. And all I can tell them is you're already paying them to do that. How are you ok with them just not doing anything with your money!
@@stannetaprospere4301 Canadians compile and do as you are told like good little children. Your dear leaders care for you and you should depend on government for your well being. In the US a city can tell an individual to clean up their yard, and the order can be ignored for years. In an HOA you would be fined each month for the washing machine out front, secured by the equity in your condo, condo can be sold for unpaid fines. The city wouldn't concern itself with a washing machine in a yard unless there was a city official living next door to it.
Thomas Jenkins best regulation is to outlaw them altogether. It should be up to the individual homeowners to maintain values of their property. If they want trash removal, get the city/town/county to do it. that's what most people who don't live in HOAs do and taxes they already pay takes care of the cost. If that's not an option, pay someone to do it. It's not that expensive. Want lawn care? Do it yourself or pay someone to it, also not that expensive. Snow removal? Petition for the state to maintain the road and again, taxes you pay covers that. A lot of people live well and have valuable property without HOAs. Who needs them?
The problem is cities can function similar to HOA's as well. Letters saying we need to trim trees and mow the lawn are understandable as they do present a reasonable risk to the safety of others and their property. But I remember getting a letter from the city saying we needed to paint a board we installed to cover up a gap in the exterior roof. Funnily enough we have a broken window just a few feet down and have never gotten a letter from the city saying it needs to be replaced. Thankfully, there's none of this "lawn must be exclusively this type of grass and well maintained" bullshit.
Malakie Usn I got charged 100 dollars a week until my patio was clean enough for their standards, we cleaned it and nobody checked for 3 months. They still want us to pay it. HOW THE FUCK ARE HOA'S LEGAL!?!
They are, just want your money then make your life a living hell so you sell up for a fraction of the cost, usually back to the HOA so they can resell the house at full value.
"Hi this is the lock picking lawyer and today we will be returning a lost tire boot to the vehicle of the of the president of the neighborhood Home Owner's Association."
As a Security Officer, I would sooner quit and turn my "bosses" in to the police, than carry through with unlawful commands. The piglets that go along with this sort of thing, make a bad name for the rest of us.
@@halogod0298 hes a self absorbed holier than thou twat who thinks people with egos and authority complexes should be respected and HOAs are only for higher class people such as himself.
@@Malignus68 by lowering home value because demand is down. Who would have ever figured most Americans don't want to willingly subject themselves to authoritarian garbage?
A girl I know works for a attorney that specializes in hoa's . Some of the stories she told me were so unbelievable. One that comes to mind is the hoa going after homeowners that worked 2nd shift, and started rules about what time you could start your Vehicle, and no guests or visitors allowed after 10pm, no one was allowed to leave or return home after midnight. That case the president of the hoa and board members were sued and they had to pay out of their own pockets for lost wages and attorney fees!
@@user-ll5oj4eo1g its supposed to be there to maintain/enforce property. So people dont let their house and yards go to hell. But HOA's attract bad people to the board and they get power hungry! The problem is people sign legal contracts and are bound by those rules. Some HOA'S have crazy rules
so no weekend guests? that's insane......I work first shift very early in the morning....I have to BE AT WORK AT 5:AM....so I need to leave at 4am I guess I would get in trouble ...starting my car too early......I've heard lots of horror stories about these HOAs and still people sign into it....
The shocking part is it sounds like people actually did as they were told since you said they got sued for lost wages. That's their own fault if they let their HOA tell them they can't go to work. Lol
I could never live in an HOA, the second someone I pay the salary of comes onto my property and tells me what I can and can not do is the second I face 20 to life.
If you own a home before the establishment of a HOA You can use a Grandfather-Clause to your advantage. Ex: My grandmother had a small vegetable garden in her front yard for almost 27 years, Then a HOA was established in 2007 and tried to enforce their rules and standards. Eventually removing the garden without permission after my grandmother’s refusal over the course of 8 months. After a long legal battle and an undisclosed legal settlement, My grandmother at age 96 still has a vegetable garden. The end.
It’s a shame she had to go into a legal battle, but good for her. There are some decent HOA, but there are some that refuse to follow or understand their own rules and clauses. I’ve also seen some bad things get grandfathered in as well due to the negligence of the boards.
@@michiwonderoutdoors2282 Government always takes their cut. But at least they can't put a lien on your house because they don't like the color of your shutters
"Hey HOA, I am just calling to remind you: Booting cars on public streets unless you are a law enforcement is a crime. If you do not stop, we are going to arrest you. Indeed you better refund *everything* that was paid, or we go and get you for every case retroactively."
Nun Ya yup. I feel ya. Lots of new developments going up in the area I love but I won’t be living in them. Houses are almost on top of one another and in no way am I going to have someone tell me I can’t park in my own driveway. They boot MY VEHICLE ON MY PROPERTY I will be taking a sawzall and going to town on it and toss the broken boot in the office front yard.
Agreed! Home shopping these past months. If I want to paint my house purple with yellow stripes, I should be able to. Had a friend get fined for too many dandelions (he had like 10 not thousands)!
This is one of the many reasons why I don't know why people live in a home with HOA. I never had this problem. My home and yard is mine. Got to love the country life.
The problem is, they're everywhere and most people live and work in cities. Yeah, if you live out in the country you can avoid all that, but it's much harder in and around cities.
edwin g yup let an hoa do that to me and they will have a big fuck off and a door slam in their face. then if they go to boot i would call the cops and if they dont do shit then mr.45 will solve it in the end
Joe Cleveland that's the same logic we used in the UK to get clamping/booting made illegal, you stayed to long without paying, let's make you stay there longer...
I'd cut the lock off then boot the HOAM CO presidents car in the parking lot..and put my own lock on it. I was in an HOA 2 times when I lived in townhomes. They are all run by busybody control freaks. Old people with nothing to do and soccer moms that are terrified of everything and push for speed bumps all over the place.
Yeah, heavy boots like that cost upwards of $600.00 a pop, start cutting them off and disposing of them and it will make their security contract prohibitively expensive for them
I can never and will never live in a neighborhood controlled by HOA. I will never allow some civilian tell me how to live. My old supervisor was president of her HOA and she was so proud of it. She was the worst and most evil and spiteful and coniving employee in our entire company. She feels so privilege and feels she has so much authority, even more than the CEO and vice president of the company. It was sickening. I left because of her. May God have mercy on her soul. It must be so tiring for these power hungry people to be so evil all the time.
Do exactly what my friend in Texas did when going to the HOA office building. Tell the "lady" that she calls the HOA owner to respond NOW or every building that the HOA uses as offices and every employee that lives in the HOA that works for it will also somehow mysteriously have a home "accident" the next day unless they fix their problems. He had had it with the 12+ problems in the past month from them and then made it their problem. Weirdly; two hours later, all the problems were solved, all employees of the HOA were gone, and the whole community had no more problems. Nice when you play on their rules and they don't like it.
@@thewoodweldingfabricator9300 I mean they put it on, I take it off and drive off like nothing happened, they're confused, put on another one, and I take it off again, rinse and repeat.
Eggsn Bakon, the joke here is that moving the car so it would no longer block the sidewalk would be a solution, whereas booting the car solves nothing except someone's superiority complex cravings.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 Well that and the money the owner of the car is expected to pay to get the boot removed. Booting the car doesn't get it moved off the sidewalk, but it does get the management company $75.00,
The last time An HOA tried this on me, I cut it off and then threw it through the front door window of their office, and then sued them for my lost time, harassment, and fraud. The HOA is no longer in business, they went bankrupt from all of the home owner lawsuits that were filed along with mine. I won.
1:29 I have never understood the logic behind this. "The car is blocking the pavement. I am going to make sure it continues to block the pavement by attaching a clamp."
I don't understand why so many people buy a house in an HOA neighborhood. You already put up with Federal Government, State, City, County... and that's not enough? So you want more regulations and fees?
YES, we want more regulations and fees. If that's the only way to ensure my neighbors will show common courtesy and decency, fine, sign me up. I love my HOA.
@@Malignus68 then go live in north korea. this is the land of the free, we don't want to live in a regulation nation with a bunch of city slickers who have a 10 foot pole up their ass. "oh my neighbor is sticking out a few feet from his drive way, when will justice be served?" grow a pair soy boy. we don't have HOA's in my neighborhood and it's great. occasional there is an odd house painted lime green or that one guy who never mows the lawn but for the most part it's great. l would rather see my neighbors enjoying and exercising their freedom than living by a book to make me happy.
I recently had a run in with the local HOA in my somewhat nice neighborhood. They quickly left me alone after I laughed hysterically and obnoxiously over the phone when they tried to tell me I needed to resod my yard with a different type of grass. Although it did take them three separate calls over a months time, needless to say the laughing got more and more obnoxious and grotesque as the calls came. Edit: I should also mention that I signed no contract, and am not technically any part of their little lame-ass wannabe fascist state. Nonetheless I live close enough to where they felt they could tell me what kind of grass goes in the yard of the home I pay taxes on. Fuck.That.Shit.
Fuentes you did read his full comment right? Cause he said he does not own property managed by an HOA he just lives close enough they think they have power over him for some reason.
They would have been really shocked when I went at my house and got a grinder and cut their damn boot off of my vehicle. It is amazing how nice people are when dealing with crooks. I am not nice and I don't play.
Simple solution if you have a spare tire is just jack the trailer up and replace the tire . Then take the tire and boot into you garage and work on it in your spare time. As a blacksmith that is some good metal to work with. I wonder how many knifes I could make out of a Boot ? You know them boots can be expensive to replace. Once they attach it to my car it belong to me.
I used a chordless angle grinder to remove an illegal boot from my vehicle. Threw it in a dumpster. They sent me a letter fining me for the cost of the boot that was destroyed. I returned there letter saying "What Boot? I have never been booted in my life." They had no proof other than a license plate number and took the loss.
I did one better. I picked the boot on my truck then went around collecting the boots on neighbors (asked if I could first, all agreed). I then put them on all the HOA board's cars and welded them together. I haven't seen a boot since. I kept one to test on illegal parking in the city.
@@spaceonisorceress4406 actually in a way you can. They did an illegal act on your private property. What they did was a crime. Cutting it off especially since it was done by a private company and not government. That's a civil issue. I'd tell them to sue me
Proof that HOAs are run by idiots. "Yeah, there's this work truck with cutting tools on it, go throw a boot on it; that will teach them to not fuck with us..." Next day.... "Um, maybe we should have left that truck alone."
I hear so often, "just don't live any place with an HOA"... it's not that easy when they are EVERYWHERE. The States need to start putting limits on these organizations.
We have no HOA. My house is straight out of the early 1980s, including bathrooms and kitchen sink but I dont care. Im free to do what I want on my own property. I am happy to support my neighnors' freedoms, too.
Sounds like right winger logic. There is terror, so lets free the shit out of and kill the shit out of them, and create more terrorists, so we can fight terrorism. Let's go to war, in the name of peace. Lets make sure the wealthy get more money, so that the less fortunate can better themselves via trickle down economics.
Dont call him that man. He does not know what he speaks. It was the republicans that got us into a war, by the then president, George w. bush, not taking daily briefings, and thus being able to stop 911. We soon went into war for freedom, and our economy went down hill. Then Obama, continued some of the same. You can't say that those things, are the way that actual liberals think. Don't mix up a belief in equality and opportunity for all, with wanting something for gays and lesbians. The first is something I would like. The second is something I dont care about.
John Ferguson elect? if they have no home to come back to they'll leave..end of story.. be a warning to others besides an HOA is pure control why subject yourselves to their psychotic weak assumed authority trip? you cause your own grief . HOA is for people who like to have strangers control their lifestyle..so you are not a hapless victim you're a willing participant
What really sucks is that as I look more and more to move, I find less and less houses that are not HOA. Almost every house I've looked at that's under 10 years old is run by an HOA. Of course, I want to live in a nice neighborhood. But I don't mind somebody changing their own oil on the weekend in their own driveway.
We need everyone to look for non hoa homes. Eventually hoa's will go extinct. Spread the word to never buy a hoa house. If congress isnt gonna abolish the hoa mafia then the free market will.
It is time to force jail time on all private entities that take the law into their own hands, even those that have a business name attached. If one person can get into trouble with the law for doing it, all must share the same liability. The CEO of Hoamco should receive at least a year in jail for each offense his company committed.
I could see how a HOA might work... If by some magical chance the right people were involved. But to go and just farm it out to some officious little company makes no sense to me at all.
I lived in one that was decent. The fees were low, amenities were decent, and was ran locally by elected officials. The neighborhood was very large and comprised a significant portion of the city with sub-neighborhoods all combined into a large complex. They had public newsletters with updates on meetings, and information was all freely accessible. The problem is with HOA management companies who operate like the one in the video: a dictatorship. HOAs must be democratized, with knowledge that they have a job to make EVERYONE as happy as possible, know that there are a LOT of crazy people out there.
I will plasma cut that boot off my car, truck or trailer just as fast as they put it on! And weld all of there doors shut on there vehicles with my portable unit. given the chance! Don't piss off a welder!
+4Xprops !!!! Shoot, I'd rather pay you to remove boots for me than to pay them, and you get to keep the boot as "scrap metal". That would be a kickass idea!
4Xprops !!!! Thing is...these idiots that bought in hoa neighborhoods knew what they were getting into when they signed on the dotted line. They don't deserve any sympathy nor should you be pissed on their behalf. Shit, if anybody booted my truck or cars or my boat & snowmobile trailers on my property I'd do the same as you...I'd grab the hypertherm & cut it off...but I'm not in an hoa neighberhood. Some perspective is in order man...they're getting what they're paying for, so it's their problem.
when l go jogging there is a big truck that blocks the sidewalk... l simply move 2 feet to the right and BOOM crisis averted. HOAs are nothing but nazis.
If a car blocked the sidewalk or crosswalk, I walked around it...and keyed the shit out of it. I hope those paint repairs taught them a little courtesy.
Heck, don't leave it where you cut it off, and don't return it to anyone with the HOA. Bring them to a welder and have a bunch of them turned into modern art.
park all of your cars on the street, wait for the boots to come, and use an angle grinder, they will eventually run out of boots and wont want to buy more
I've heard so many horror stories about HOAs. I would never move into a neighborhood where I had to pay to live in my own house under an insane, greedy Home Owners Association. What a racket. Dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
c3h8O I did after the letterThey were tiny and barely noticeable. Plus I was busy taking care of her (she had 3 broken ribs and a perforated lung). There are other houses with rust on their driveways and overgrown lawns but they badger her. 🙄
Nicolaj Nielsen: Taxes go to the city, county, state, school district, hospital district, and each one of those government identities are suppose to deliver a service to you. Where HOA do you no services only collect dues, and fines just to make sure you house looks just like your neighbors. You would have to beg them if you want to built a pool in your back yard, or any type of garden, or some kind of play ground equipment, or even a storage shed. Then there is your cable or satellite disc, where or not you may fly a flag, how high is your fence. Do you understand now why HOA are not needed or liked by most people?
if u live in the vegas area and has a boot from your HOA. give me a call. ill come with my plasma cutter/angle grinder and OXY/ACY torch. i only charge a Double Double IN & OUT combo. lol...
Because I'm a petty asshat. Id just cut the lock off the boot undo it, and ship it back to the company. Since in this case its legally parked on a city street. Then turn around and invoice them for the ahippkng materials and cost. Wait until taken to court. Beat upside head with city ordinance and law. ??? And profit.
I just removed the quarter panel of my car leave the boot on and drive around . Then go to the hoa meeting and thow a shit fit about all the pot holes they need to fix
I hate hoa’s but you can’t block a sidewalk. People should not have to walk in the street to get around a car. Imagine older people, little kids and strollers. Our village has that law and it’s a reasonable one.
Deb Schwer yes I agree you shouldn’t block a sidewalk, but putting a boot on a car rather than just knocking on their door and telling them to move it is counterproductive. Now with a boot, how are you going to move the vehicle without going thru a time consuming process?
When looking for homes in the west I found so many yet my husbands first question was “is there a HOA?” And if there is we won’t be living there. We been married 41 years and he has kept his word…never ever live anywhere near a HOA.
A friend of mine had his car booted by his HOA, I came to his house and picked the lock. I then put said boot on the car of his neighbor who was the head of that HOA, and was parked on the street like my friend.
@@buddyclem7328 no, i wasn't that mean, i just put it on his car as it was. I may be an asshole, but im not going to stoop to their level of assholery.
"Hes blocking the sidewalk" "What should we do about it" "Boot his car that way he cant go anywhere" "Wouldnt he still be blocking the sid-" "Shhh, No more talky" Edit: HOLY SHIT, 845 LIKES
Universal Skeptic that’s literally my struggle as a security guard. Some of these HOAs have the most ridiculous rules. And then I look like the asshole when I’m there enforcing them lol.
if the hoa tries to mess with you just strap a rifle on your back and walk outside anytime they try to trespass on your property. they'll get the message very quickly.
@@deltashot5608 That may be legally true, but it is not something clear and evident at even arm's length for most firearms. - Just looking at it from the other side of the equation. There are few firearm situations where one can clearly see the weapon is not ready to fire on a trigger pull. > Break-action shotgun broken open > Clear line of sight to an empty magazine well (still can have one in the chamber). > Bolt-action with the bolt open and locked to the rear - still need line of sight to that part of the firearm. - I am NOT anti-gun ownership, I just like to examine the various sides of a situation.
Ive had a neighbor (wasnt even a HOA neighbordhood) report my car to the city as “Abandoned” because they didnt like that i would park in front of their house somedays (only street parking was available on this street) How do i know they did it for that reason? They LEFT AN ACTUAL NOTE TELLING ME THEY DID IT FOR THAT REASON!!!! Some fucking people …..this planet…..
I hate HOAs, I had a flats boat in my drive way which is a down hill drive way and 75' from the road. I get a letter in the mail for the HOA saying they are going to fine me $250 a day for every day it sits in my drive way because it's a danger to other drivers... man I hate them with a passion.
or better yet call the police and have them tell the fuckers off that their laws dont override city and state laws and if they continue to harass you then take their asses to court and they will find out real quick that they cant push you around
can I get their number please? I won't say anything about the boats with flats. I just want to call them, using dial up connection set to retry every 30 seconds, and make copies of that dial up connection, use a *.bat file to make it run them over and over, and put my old computers to good use.
Cousins Grimm its your driveway its illegal for them to do that... They can fine you all they want but its your property not a private property so you dont have to pay anything... But yes i suggest you call the local PD as well
nightshadow actually, they do. When you buy a home in an hoa neighborhood...you sign an hoa membership contract at the time you close on the home. That's why I really don't feel much sympathy for people bitching when they were dumb enough to buy there in the first place.
Well done, swift and effective investigative journalism. HOA corporations have a tendency to be predatory with their enforcement in places, not just keeping the properties in proper, maintained order and not letting people farm rusted cars on their lawn.
Jay Dee Archer it was probably something like this the city calls up the h o a and said something like hey stay off of our turf you're messing with our business
I HOPE the presence of one drives down property values. If I was shopping for a new/used home, the VERY first thing I look for is whether the neighborhood has a Naz.. whoops, sorry!, homeowners association. If they have one, I don't bother looking at the houses even if they're under market value.
Bolt cutters are not that expensive. Everyone should own them. They don't come in handy often but when you need them they are really handy. That lock is history in seconds.
Wherever there's a lack of HOAs don't forget about the assholes of the Code Enforcement ... In America there is a long line of assholes just waiting to tell you what to do and where to go... America,. Land of the " it's okay to think you're free"...
I live in an HOA community in Florida. I'm also a board member. Florida has exceptionally clear statutes regarding the powers, conduct, and responsibilities of HOAs. I'm surprised more states don't. Our street is city owned, too. If our HOA had pulled a stunt like that, our city police would have had a field day writing up citations for all the parties involved in this illegal act.
I'm currently looking to buy my first house... each listing i see, if it says anything about HOA fees, I go to the next listing without even looking at the property.... They say the HOA is there to keep property values and ascetic looks of the community up, but I would rather have neighbors i feel comfortable inviting over for a bbq
@@ethanburns9286 10 pack of cut off wheels for about $9.99 on special. Pretty sure I could find a weak point on that thing and slice it off pretty quick.
One where someone was grandfathered into a neighborhood with hoa. Hoa really wants them in. They choose NOT to join hoa. Hoa illegally tampers with owner's mail. Owner reports them. Hoa gets a $10,000 fine for commiting a felony. Hoa does illegal mail tampering again (illegally placing 'mail' in the mailbox. Mail was hoa past dues, and a fine for reporting hoa's felony). Hoa gets reported again. Hoa also trespasses and performs illegal search of property and blocking owner's driveway. Owner goes to his towing truck, hoa skidaddles out before owner tows away hoa's vehicles. Hoa places lien on house. Owner takes them to court and wins (hoa has to pay owner's attorney fees plus damages). Hoa places lien on house again. Owner takes them to court again winning. multiple cease orders for hoa to cut their crap. Is a story i read on reddit long ago. I paraphrased it a lot. It may not be very accurate i left out a lot of legal jargon and a lot of the story.
When municipalities in France started booting vehicles people would just fill the locks with superglue. The companies were obliged to cut their own boots apart, and since no one could prove who had added the glue the vehicle owners were not obliged to pay for it. Booting wasn't economically viable so they stopped.
we live in "land of the free" but move to a hoa which very much the opposite. you can't even paint your house unless hoa says yes and even in a draught they expect your grass to be green. in Florida it's really hard to find a house that's not an HOA. HOA thinks they are above the law.
Only morkns move into hoa zones. Its bad enough I have to get a permit to do any construction in my own home but I damn sure wont let some private entity ever dictate to me what I can and can't do on my own property
you are a moron Theres not really a choice sometimes. HOA are taking over a lot of neighborhoods. Also how do you spell moron wrong, it's in your name.
D D its a cell phone. And its always a choice. You dont have to choose to move somewhere. If you don't and people cabt sell homes because theyre in an hoa they'll stop being a thing
you are a moron It's as much of a choice as those granted by an oligopoly. Its like saying you have a choice in choosing internet providers or whether or not you want to use electricity at the kwh provided by your energy company. You can always choose not to move into an HOA home or not to get internet from a shitty provider, etc. but the point is that it's essentially an ultimatum where whatever you pick it's going to be just as bad. it's not as simple as choosing to boycott a watch a movie or something, choosing a home is something that affects many aspects of your livelihood and it's not something that most people have many options in.
.....I'm just spiteful enough that I'd get something to cut the thing off, then go drop it on the HOA's front desk with "fuck you' painted on it... That is utterly ridiculous...
When I am house-hunting, my first question for the real estate agent is: "Is this property infected with an HOA?" If yes, I walk. Simple as that. It's time to outlaw HOAs and imprison their executives.
It's simple, don't sign any HOA agreements. House you like in an HOA? Don't buy it. HOA disappear real quick when property value drops because of them.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA! Property values in HOA are on average higher than non-HOA neighborhoods. It might be because HOAs don't let morons park in their lawn or paint their house purple.
The truth is HOAs protect property values and keep order in the neighborhood. Forcing people to keep their lawns in good condition, follow the rules, be good neighbors. All it takes is one asshole to move next door to you and if he treats his house like shit the value of your home will drop without an HOA to protect you. When you move into a cul de sac you agree to a social contract with the other homeowners. If you don't like it don't move there go buy a secluded property and do your own thing
HOAs drive away a lot of prospective customers with their restrictive rules. And the funny thing is... during a recession, HOA properties *drop* massively. This is because the HOA often strikes down bylaws to boost slumping sales..., while those who fear “anarchy” when that happens will often sell. It’s a very similar concept to blockbusting in the 50s and 60s. An HOA makes things look good.. and makes certain people feel good.... that’s it. Just like that one carat diamond on the HOA presidents hand that’s worth only 50% of its appraised value because they only people who are going to buy it are pawn shops, jewellers, and private citizens who definitely aren’t paying full value.
@@andremaines "all it takes is one asshole to move next door" Yep, and that is his guaranteed constitutional right. HOAs can burn in hell. No person should own a house as a financial investment: houses are for living in, not for making money. Who cares if the property value drops? That means you pay less in taxes. The only people who care about property value dropping are greedy investor fucks who buy second and third homes cheap, and then try to rip off the poor homeless family who needs a home by selling high. Houses zhould have the *lowest possible market value* because of ethical business. People NEED a place to live. There are more homes in the US than homeless, but prices continue to skyrocket and affordable housing seems to evaporate. This defies the law of supply and demand because of government cronyism, bank schemes to give bad loans in the 2008 housing bubble, and shitty-ass dictatorial HOAs that dont want any "ruffians" or "hooligans" in their neighborhood. Burn it all down! See how the fat cats like sleeping in the gutter.
My ex boss had this happen,even after the police told the HOA it was illegal,then used a torch to cut the boot off. We spent the next couple of days cutting boots off the neighbor's cars. If a boot popped up,we cut it off. We collected the remains and dropped some on the HOA presidents lawn and some on the lawn of the self appointed "parking enforcement officer". They called the cops and said we destroyed their property and the cops said that since they were already told that booting cars was illegal,people can remove them anyway they can.I miss that miserable old bastard boss.He always was good for a laugh.
Robert james I had my car booted in my front yard, I used a cut off wheel to cut it off and used my machine shop to turn it into a million pieces
you know what else is illegal? Tampering with another persons vehicle.
Robert james Good work, man! HOA's are breeding grounds for petty tyrants.
Robert james I had a friend who did the same with a torch, he was a welder and was parked on the public road, and a private security guard put a boot on his work truck so he just lit his torch and cut it off right in front of the guard, great day, he later sent the company a bill for the acetylene as a joke
loganbaileysfunwithtrains. Awesomeness.
And since people who live in HOA communities have to pay dues to the HOA, you're literally paying them to oppress you.
Glad I don't live in america and we don't have to deal with that type of shit.
The only regulations we have in France depends entirely on two things:
-The city (as in the mayor and the cultural image (we'll get to that later).
-The district you're in (you can't build a 4 floor house if your district only allow 2 floor houses, once again because of the city).
And that's it, the only limitation you have are basically practical more than anything, no one bitching about the colors of your walls, your flowers, where you park your car (as long as it doesn't bother anyone) etc...
In my street, just in my street, my neighboor on my left has his painted in a lime green and the one of my right has his painted in some kind of red-ish orange and no one care but them, it's their problem.
@Joseph Taub As a wolf, I really have no idea what sheep do. You seem to have inside knowledge though.
But but, I have a home warranty and the HOA cuts our grass and plows snow in the winter. 😂😂😂 fuck an HOA
And, you have to pay property taxes as well
You pay waste management to keep trash our of your community. You pay HOA dues to do the same thing.
I pay 250 dollars for them for grass cutting and snow and salting and we get 2 playgrounds
What kind of a person wants to live in an HOA? I live in the country with no neighbors just to get away from fights. Who makes these silly rules anyway
"liberals" who want everyone to be as miserable as they are
@@michaelmartin8337 ideology not a factor. In this case it just sounds like pure greed.
@@mrankin2825 That too
They only way I can live as close to the ocean as possible is to live in a place with a HOA. My HOA is mostly non-existent anyway. I can do what I want actually. I pay them $120 per year and the main reason is: my homes value has increased almost $30k since living here and I have yet to do any remodeling. I could sell my home right now and make a great profit. Investing is wise. Try it sometime.
@@michaelmartin8337 I have a HOA. Trump signs fill my neighborhood.
HOA is nothing more than the landlord for the house that you purchased. It's literally the worst of both worlds, you still have to go through all the hassle of buying a home and being responsible for it AND all the hassle of living under the rules of someone else and abide by strict regulations of how you live in your home.
@@browncatwithblurredbackgro2461 That's a towable offense anywhere regardless of HOA. You don't need to live in an HOA to prevent people from blocking your driveway.
Basically Communistic China in America is what ah HOA truly is normally ran by Karen's and Kens that only want to pocket the money they get by makin up bullshit laws for their little powow group. When shit hits the fan that pass the blame on each other or dissolve like the witches they are. You basically give up your rights to be in HOA.
Car blocks sidewalk
Solution: *Boots car to continually block sidewalk*
ShadoeFax exactly my thinking.
And even that isn't legal for them to do. Blocking a side walk is a pretty cheap parking violation (police come and write you a ticket). Otherwise it's YOUR property. I wonder how much that boot is worth for scrap metal....
@@Badartist888 It is an American thing. It started in Denver Colorado. France now calls them the Denver Boot.
Brett Symons
I agree but It’s definitely not exclusive to the US. In the UK they are just as bad or even worse when it comes to booting vehicles.
literally thought the exact same thing. Instead of just being a decent person and asking them to move their vehicle, let's put a boot on it to prevent them from moving it at all and continue causing the problem.
i had a little event occur with my HOA a few years back. im a certified welder and have a welding truck which i use for work. i always parked it in my driveway. this went just fine for over 4 years. suddenly we have this new parking enforcement company. i got my truck booted ,i went to the office as i had peremission to park in my driveway. the company refused and i paid 85 bucks. i began parking the truck in the garage.
well i was doing some work in the backyard and the front garage door was open.
i was floored to find my truck booted inside mydamn garage. i went to the office and im pissed ok. they refused saying that no one wants to see that truck. now i might add that my truck was beautiful. new paint chrome everything and always clean.
before i left the office i said i will not pay. i was then told that i should enjoy my time off as im not going to work. how stupid that guy was is astounding. i have extensive metal working tools and i took my cutting torch out cut that damn thing off .i drove to the enforcment office and booted the bosses car but i welded it together.no key was opening that one.
well guess what people i was never bothered again.
they underestimated my level of contempt and revenge.
They entered your property illegally, take 'em to court. Breaking & entering as well as vandalism.
Like a boss! You sir are what makes America awesome.
Good Job Sir!
I'll take things that never happened for 800 Alex.
good story thou
I cannot tell you how many times I bumped heads with my previous HOA. It almost made living in my home oppressive.
They had me remove rocks that were placed at the bottom all around my outside fence even THOUGH the original builders designed it that way.
They never said a word about it until I moved in with my family.
I spent 2 hours carrying those heavy rocks one by one.
Then a couple months later they said I had to cut the bushes of my small tree outside where they were starting to impede people walking on the side way and cars on the street. It wasn't that long and I was walking right under them just fine, but I thought fair enough. So I cut them, about 3 feet above my head and I'm 6 ft. And on the street same, about 6 ft above my SUV.
They sent letters again saying I had to cut it shorter. AND I had to fix a golf ball sized hole in my white fence.
I swear I saw red after those letters. I patched the hole with White tape. Took an Axe and chopped the tree down, loaded it in my truck and dumped it.
They sent an angry letter with a fine for chopping the tree and I called them and played dumb. Asking I thought THEY did that? And they continued to accuse me of chopping the tree to which I kept stating I did not and thought it was HOA so I thought nothing of it. And I got very defensive and said if you think I chopped it down then show me a video of me chopping it down, otherwise I'm calling the cops for harassment. They withdrew the fine and never sent me a letter again. Long grass. Weeds. Even painted parts of my house different color. Never said shit after that about anything. Lol
Do liberal Karen's run these hoa's?
@@stevemiller1517well duh
@@stevemiller1517No. Normally they're Alt Right Nazi's. You know the kind, they want everyone to conform to thier 'family values' while they make you pay for the 'priveledge' of being under their thumb.
Sounds like prison.
From someone living outside the US I find this absolute outrageous, what is the HOA even for? This is a classic example that power corrupts.
One time I was in the Pennsylvania mountains. I was lost and found myself in a remote little village. They had cars up on blocks. Washing Machines on the porch,
little gardens, sheds, and working on cars in the yard.
I felt like I was in God's country.
Some folks will put old coaches and washing machines in the front of their homes and leave trash and broken cars around the yard, simply don't maintain their homes. If you don't want to live near those folks you can CHOOSE to live in an HOA community, where EVERYONE in the community signs the same contract (which defines the rules) voluntarily. This protects the home values in the community and those homes generally cost more because they are cleaner and better looking neighborhoods. The community members vote in the leadership of the association. But people in general don't want to be called out when they do break the rules they agreed to abide by.
@@nightdipper5178there are already city ordinances against people leaving trash in their front yard. You can call the city/county they will be fined and forced to clean up. You don't need to pay another bunch of people to bully your neighbors into not being slobs. Your taxes cover that.
Here in Canada HOAs are not popular because we already know or rights and what our taxes cover. Most Americans that have spoken to seem to not have a good understanding as to what the government is supposed to be doing for the taxes that you were paying.
My friends from Texas keep saying they don't want the government in their business. And all I can tell them is you're already paying them to do that. How are you ok with them just not doing anything with your money!
@@stannetaprospere4301 Canadians compile and do as you are told like good little children. Your dear leaders care for you and you should depend on government for your well being. In the US a city can tell an individual to clean up their yard, and the order can be ignored for years. In an HOA you would be fined each month for the washing machine out front, secured by the equity in your condo, condo can be sold for unpaid fines. The city wouldn't concern itself with a washing machine in a yard unless there was a city official living next door to it.
I Agree. HOA's need to be outlawed. PERIOD.
nah, just regulated. the do have purpose, but they can get out of control once the ones running it aren't from the neighborhood.
Thomas Jenkins best regulation is to outlaw them altogether. It should be up to the individual homeowners to maintain values of their property. If they want trash removal, get the city/town/county to do it. that's what most people who don't live in HOAs do and taxes they already pay takes care of the cost. If that's not an option, pay someone to do it. It's not that expensive.
Want lawn care? Do it yourself or pay someone to it, also not that expensive.
Snow removal? Petition for the state to maintain the road and again, taxes you pay covers that.
A lot of people live well and have valuable property without HOAs. Who needs them?
chrismc410 seriously. most of them do stuff that local government is supposed to handle.
They're just shitty semi private takes on government.
The problem is cities can function similar to HOA's as well. Letters saying we need to trim trees and mow the lawn are understandable as they do present a reasonable risk to the safety of others and their property. But I remember getting a letter from the city saying we needed to paint a board we installed to cover up a gap in the exterior roof. Funnily enough we have a broken window just a few feet down and have never gotten a letter from the city saying it needs to be replaced.
Thankfully, there's none of this "lawn must be exclusively this type of grass and well maintained" bullshit.
Malakie Usn I got charged 100 dollars a week until my patio was clean enough for their standards, we cleaned it and nobody checked for 3 months. They still want us to pay it. HOW THE FUCK ARE HOA'S LEGAL!?!
I think about 90% of those HOAs are corrupt. I’d never buy a house that requires you to be a participant.
They are, just want your money then make your life a living hell so you sell up for a fraction of the cost, usually back to the HOA so they can resell the house at full value.
if they try to make me pay to be part of something I don't give a shit about I will tell them to fuck right off it's my house and they can't say shit
a participant? no. a victim? ok, sure!
These ASSociations bigshot who make rules never show their faces or answer your questions always hide behind emails and websites
100%
"Hi this is the lock picking lawyer and today we will be returning a lost tire boot to the vehicle of the of the president of the neighborhood Home Owner's Association."
As a Security Officer, I would sooner quit and turn my "bosses" in to the police, than carry through with unlawful commands. The piglets that go along with this sort of thing, make a bad name for the rest of us.
I would never move to an HOA neighborhood. I’d be getting 20 to life within the first couple weeks. 😆
In other words, HOA's work as intended.
J L N explain
@@halogod0298 hes a self absorbed holier than thou twat who thinks people with egos and authority complexes should be respected and HOAs are only for higher class people such as himself.
Same here. I'm not a rules guy.
Anyone trying to tell me what I can and can't do with my own home, is going to have a VERY bad day.
@@Malignus68 by lowering home value because demand is down. Who would have ever figured most Americans don't want to willingly subject themselves to authoritarian garbage?
A girl I know works for a attorney that specializes in hoa's . Some of the stories she told me were so unbelievable. One that comes to mind is the hoa going after homeowners that worked 2nd shift, and started rules about what time you could start your Vehicle, and no guests or visitors allowed after 10pm, no one was allowed to leave or return home after midnight. That case the president of the hoa and board members were sued and they had to pay out of their own pockets for lost wages and attorney fees!
How on earth can an HOA tell you you can't have people to your house?!
@@user-ll5oj4eo1g its supposed to be there to maintain/enforce property. So people dont let their house and yards go to hell. But HOA's attract bad people to the board and they get power hungry! The problem is people sign legal contracts and are bound by those rules. Some HOA'S have crazy rules
so no weekend guests? that's insane......I work first shift very early in the morning....I have to BE AT WORK AT 5:AM....so I need to leave at 4am I guess I would get in trouble ...starting my car too early......I've heard lots of horror stories about these HOAs and still people sign into it....
I would tell the HOA when they can kiss my ass!
The shocking part is it sounds like people actually did as they were told since you said they got sued for lost wages. That's their own fault if they let their HOA tell them they can't go to work. Lol
I could never live in an HOA, the second someone I pay the salary of comes onto my property and tells me what I can and can not do is the second I face 20 to life.
That tire boot would be flying through the companies window before the shift was over.
If you own a home before the establishment of a HOA
You can use a Grandfather-Clause to your advantage.
Ex: My grandmother had a small vegetable garden in her front yard for almost 27 years, Then a HOA was established in 2007 and tried to enforce their rules and standards.
Eventually removing the garden without permission after my grandmother’s refusal over the course of 8 months.
After a long legal battle and an undisclosed legal settlement, My grandmother at age 96 still has a vegetable garden.
The end.
It’s a shame she had to go into a legal battle, but good for her. There are some decent HOA, but there are some that refuse to follow or understand their own rules and clauses. I’ve also seen some bad things get grandfathered in as well due to the negligence of the boards.
Did she lose a lot of money for that battle? Or the HOA reimbursed her legal fee in the end?
Should've shot the HOA for stepping on her property
President Trump Yup.
@hell on earth dude Wow, who let you touch a keyboard?
One of the best things about homeownership is exhilaration of owning your own land and house. HOA robs you of that
Until you try to sell your house when your neighbors look like junkyards. Good luck with that.
@@Malignus68 That's cause people are pampered princesses who cant stand the sight of anything not perfectly landscaped
Don't pay your property taxes and you'll realize you don't really own your property.
@@michiwonderoutdoors2282 Government always takes their cut. But at least they can't put a lien on your house because they don't like the color of your shutters
Then people shouldnt buy into a hoa
"Hey HOA, I am just calling to remind you: Booting cars on public streets unless you are a law enforcement is a crime. If you do not stop, we are going to arrest you.
Indeed you better refund *everything* that was paid, or we go and get you for every case retroactively."
I love when HOA’s can’t even bother to abide by laws and constitutional rights. When, they make their own decisions and bylaws.
Makita grinder with a cut off wheel would solve the problem.
my Dewalt would cut it faster
Cohiba Fox I have the Milwaukee cordless bandsaw.....easy work for this
Cohiba Fox cut it off and weld it back on their shit.
Nathan Jones Yes! Eat it fuckers!
this is why they never boot welding trucks.
This is why I won't even look at a home that is part of an HOA.
Nun Ya yup. I feel ya. Lots of new developments going up in the area I love but I won’t be living in them. Houses are almost on top of one another and in no way am I going to have someone tell me I can’t park in my own driveway. They boot MY VEHICLE ON MY PROPERTY I will be taking a sawzall and going to town on it and toss the broken boot in the office front yard.
An HOA is definitely a deal killer for me after my experiences.
@@johnmagill9496
I've never had an experience with one and will die before I let it happen. They literally do not serve a purpose in any way.
Agreed! Home shopping these past months. If I want to paint my house purple with yellow stripes, I should be able to. Had a friend get fined for too many dandelions (he had like 10 not thousands)!
Me either
This is one of the many reasons why I don't know why people live in a home with HOA. I never had this problem. My home and yard is mine. Got to love the country life.
The problem is, they're everywhere and most people live and work in cities. Yeah, if you live out in the country you can avoid all that, but it's much harder in and around cities.
Some people like conformity. Weird!😮
Neighbor: *breaths incorrectly*
HOA: *VIOLATION! REEEE!!!*
You blocked the sidewalk so now we won't let you move it off the sidewalk.
Lawgic.
edwin g yup let an hoa do that to me and they will have a big fuck off and a door slam in their face. then if they go to boot i would call the cops and if they dont do shit then mr.45 will solve it in the end
Joe Cleveland that's the same logic we used in the UK to get clamping/booting made illegal, you stayed to long without paying, let's make you stay there longer...
Exactly I won't move out
Have it towed to the impound yard instead of booting.
That's when I take out the angle grinder to cut the boot off.
I'd cut the lock off then boot the HOAM CO presidents car in the parking lot..and put my own lock on it.
I was in an HOA 2 times when I lived in townhomes. They are all run by busybody control freaks. Old people with nothing to do and soccer moms that are terrified of everything and push for speed bumps all over the place.
Cheng Liu Once you cut the boot off you should cut it in many small pieces and then return it to him in the mail
I guarantee if you keep a couple of those boots it will stop
Thats what i was thinking
Yeah, heavy boots like that cost upwards of $600.00 a pop, start cutting them off and disposing of them and it will make their security contract prohibitively expensive for them
I can never and will never live in a neighborhood controlled by HOA. I will never allow some civilian tell me how to live. My old supervisor was president of her HOA and she was so proud of it. She was the worst and most evil and spiteful and coniving employee in our entire company. She feels so privilege and feels she has so much authority, even more than the CEO and vice president of the company. It was sickening. I left because of her. May God have mercy on her soul. It must be so tiring for these power hungry people to be so evil all the time.
Do exactly what my friend in Texas did when going to the HOA office building. Tell the "lady" that she calls the HOA owner to respond NOW or every building that the HOA uses as offices and every employee that lives in the HOA that works for it will also somehow mysteriously have a home "accident" the next day unless they fix their problems. He had had it with the 12+ problems in the past month from them and then made it their problem. Weirdly; two hours later, all the problems were solved, all employees of the HOA were gone, and the whole community had no more problems. Nice when you play on their rules and they don't like it.
It's going to take a little longer for my angle grinder to get thru that thick one
Not really. Just cut where they pass the lock through.
You amateurs must be using 4.5 in grinders, my 7in makita would cut through this like a jet engine through a teaspoon of room temperature butter
Takes me almost no time at all with a lock pickers kit
@@danielboudreaux85 that doesn't completely destroy the boot. I want that boot dead.
@@thewoodweldingfabricator9300 I mean they put it on, I take it off and drive off like nothing happened, they're confused, put on another one, and I take it off again, rinse and repeat.
Blocking the sidewalk? Boot the car so it can't be moved. Seems legit...
He was in a Court type of street...
Eggsn Bakon, the joke here is that moving the car so it would no longer block the sidewalk would be a solution, whereas booting the car solves nothing except someone's superiority complex cravings.
Big deal...omg..
My thoughts exactly.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 Well that and the money the owner of the car is expected to pay to get the boot removed. Booting the car doesn't get it moved off the sidewalk, but it does get the management company $75.00,
The last time An HOA tried this on me, I cut it off and then threw it through the front door window of their office, and then sued them for my lost time, harassment, and fraud. The HOA is no longer in business, they went bankrupt from all of the home owner lawsuits that were filed along with mine. I won.
1:29 I have never understood the logic behind this.
"The car is blocking the pavement. I am going to make sure it continues to block the pavement by attaching a clamp."
I don't understand why so many people buy a house in an HOA neighborhood. You already put up with Federal Government, State, City, County... and that's not enough? So you want more regulations and fees?
Soviet Union comrade
the kind of people who live in those walled and gated communities are the same people who are against border walls.
YES, we want more regulations and fees. If that's the only way to ensure my neighbors will show common courtesy and decency, fine, sign me up. I love my HOA.
@@Malignus68 then go live in north korea. this is the land of the free, we don't want to live in a regulation nation with a bunch of city slickers who have a 10 foot pole up their ass. "oh my neighbor is sticking out a few feet from his drive way, when will justice be served?" grow a pair soy boy. we don't have HOA's in my neighborhood and it's great. occasional there is an odd house painted lime green or that one guy who never mows the lawn but for the most part it's great. l would rather see my neighbors enjoying and exercising their freedom than living by a book to make me happy.
Electronics For Fun You have proven my point: People who hate HOA's don't realize that they are the reason HOA's were created in the first place.
I recently had a run in with the local HOA in my somewhat nice neighborhood.
They quickly left me alone after I laughed hysterically and obnoxiously over the phone when they tried to tell me I needed to resod my yard with a different type of grass.
Although it did take them three separate calls over a months time, needless to say the laughing got more and more obnoxious and grotesque as the calls came.
Edit: I should also mention that I signed no contract, and am not technically any part of their little lame-ass wannabe fascist state. Nonetheless I live close enough to where they felt they could tell me what kind of grass goes in the yard of the home I pay taxes on.
Fuck.That.Shit.
Porco-Dio FIlm id get some of that grass paint and paint the front yard Red White and Blue.
Porco-Dio FIlm i mean you were stupid enough to buy a home with hoa
Fuentes you did read his full comment right? Cause he said he does not own property managed by an HOA he just lives close enough they think they have power over him for some reason.
What's 'HQA'?
HOA Home Owners Association, aka Thugs.
They would have been really shocked when I went at my house and got a grinder and cut their damn boot off of my vehicle.
It is amazing how nice people are when dealing with crooks. I am not nice and I don't play.
Simple solution if you have a spare tire is just jack the trailer up and replace the tire . Then take the tire and boot into you garage and work on it in your spare time. As a blacksmith that is some good metal to work with. I wonder how many knifes I could make out of a Boot ? You know them boots can be expensive to replace. Once they attach it to my car it belong to me.
If they have no authority to boot your car, then they have no authority to stop or punish you for cutting off that boot.
I used a chordless angle grinder to remove an illegal boot from my vehicle. Threw it in a dumpster. They sent me a letter fining me for the cost of the boot that was destroyed. I returned there letter saying "What Boot? I have never been booted in my life." They had no proof other than a license plate number and took the loss.
Dmitri Clements - Can't have it both ways ;)
I did one better. I picked the boot on my truck then went around collecting the boots on neighbors (asked if I could first, all agreed). I then put them on all the HOA board's cars and welded them together.
I haven't seen a boot since. I kept one to test on illegal parking in the city.
@@spaceonisorceress4406 actually in a way you can. They did an illegal act on your private property. What they did was a crime. Cutting it off especially since it was done by a private company and not government. That's a civil issue. I'd tell them to sue me
Do not dump the parts on the HOA president lawn, that's littering.
Had an HOA boot my welding rig one night when I stayed at a friends house. Long story short the boot got to meet my plasma cutter.
metalhead6788
That really was dumb of them to boot a work truck that clearly had any number of tools to easily get that boot removed.
metalhead6788 track down the an hoa representative and weld it onto their car. see how they like it
Proof that HOAs are run by idiots.
"Yeah, there's this work truck with cutting tools on it, go throw a boot on it; that will teach them to not fuck with us..."
Next day....
"Um, maybe we should have left that truck alone."
metalhead6788 what 10mins max from start to finish, its fun being a metal guy, start to finish i mean to get the gear out and put it away
Take the muffler off the generator for extra effect, lol
I hear so often, "just don't live any place with an HOA"... it's not that easy when they are EVERYWHERE. The States need to start putting limits on these organizations.
We have no HOA. My house is straight out of the early 1980s, including bathrooms and kitchen sink but I dont care. Im free to do what I want on my own property. I am happy to support my neighnors' freedoms, too.
HOA logic:
A car is blocking the sidewalk? We better boot it so it can't get out of the way.
Sounds like right winger logic. There is terror, so lets free the shit out of and kill the shit out of them, and create more terrorists, so we can fight terrorism. Let's go to war, in the name of peace. Lets make sure the wealthy get more money, so that the less fortunate can better themselves via trickle down economics.
He's still your president get over it snowflake.
Mitch Sorrenstein you mean what Obama and Hillary did? Think before you type fucktard.
what a fucking dipshit you are!
Dont call him that man. He does not know what he speaks. It was the republicans that got us into a war, by the then president, George w. bush, not taking daily briefings, and thus being able to stop 911. We soon went into war for freedom, and our economy went down hill. Then Obama, continued some of the same. You can't say that those things, are the way that actual liberals think. Don't mix up a belief in equality and opportunity for all, with wanting something for gays and lesbians. The first is something I would like. The second is something I dont care about.
We had Parking Nazis at our HOA. We had to elect a new board to finally get rid of them.
John Ferguson elect? if they have no home to come back to they'll leave..end of story.. be a warning to others besides an HOA is pure control why subject yourselves to their psychotic weak assumed authority trip? you cause your own grief . HOA is for people who like to have strangers control their lifestyle..so you are not a hapless victim you're a willing participant
Altair your agent should know all of that and be able to tell you right up front.
My hoa parking Nazi got street justice. She chilled out after she got back from the hospital.
did you try to punch them in the dick? its alot faster than engaging in politics.
@ way to go
What really sucks is that as I look more and more to move, I find less and less houses that are not HOA. Almost every house I've looked at that's under 10 years old is run by an HOA. Of course, I want to live in a nice neighborhood. But I don't mind somebody changing their own oil on the weekend in their own driveway.
We need everyone to look for non hoa homes. Eventually hoa's will go extinct. Spread the word to never buy a hoa house. If congress isnt gonna abolish the hoa mafia then the free market will.
I have a drawer FULL of cutting discs to go with my angle grinder for just the occassion that someone tries THIS on me. LoL!!!
Man I love living in the sticks. On my own land, shooting guns while cops drive by and wave. :)
Johnny Mak Now thats the real American dream
Bob Newhart it's as close as I'll ever get, and it's peaceful. :)
Bingo. Neighbors on both side of me have ranges set up, as do I. I can go up to about 300 yds.
that sounds fuckin sweet bro
Same for me. Our neighbors are cows. Across the road you hear guns shooting and you smile cuz you know it's your neighbors. Life is good.
I've been called to remove illegal boots, by the time I'm done they're junk.
Lots of little pieces.
Plasma cutter is quick
That is frikken Awesome Dude! You gotta feel like a million dollars after each one.
@@kevinbautsch I usually do them free of charge
@@briankingwelding4531 I'd consider that a public service! Good work!
Nice! I usually pull out my 7in grinder, but thats cause I don't carry an air compressor with me. Love using a plasma for most work.
@CAPTAIN DABBIN you will also need an air compressor, and a source of power.
You get to boot my car once, the next time you get shot. Get the hell outta here😂
It is time to force jail time on all private entities that take the law into their own hands, even those that have a business name attached. If one person can get into trouble with the law for doing it, all must share the same liability. The CEO of Hoamco should receive at least a year in jail for each offense his company committed.
I have yet in 40 years to hear about a single good HOA.
I could see how a HOA might work... If by some magical chance the right people were involved. But to go and just farm it out to some officious little company makes no sense to me at all.
there aren’t any
I lived in one that was decent. The fees were low, amenities were decent, and was ran locally by elected officials. The neighborhood was very large and comprised a significant portion of the city with sub-neighborhoods all combined into a large complex. They had public newsletters with updates on meetings, and information was all freely accessible.
The problem is with HOA management companies who operate like the one in the video: a dictatorship. HOAs must be democratized, with knowledge that they have a job to make EVERYONE as happy as possible, know that there are a LOT of crazy people out there.
I hope and pray we don't have them in Canada
To be fair, a good HOA is like a good set of pipes. Ideally, you’d never notice them.
I will plasma cut that boot off my car, truck or trailer just as fast as they put it on! And weld all of there doors shut on there vehicles with my portable unit. given the chance! Don't piss off a welder!
4Xprops !!!! Weld a plate over their exhausts on their vehicles, that would be enough, their too stupid to realize what's wrong
+4Xprops !!!! Shoot, I'd rather pay you to remove boots for me than to pay them, and you get to keep the boot as "scrap metal". That would be a kickass idea!
Agent1W I'd remove it for free! And pay to deliver the pieces to their office.
4Xprops !!!! Thing is...these idiots that bought in hoa neighborhoods knew what they were getting into when they signed on the dotted line. They don't deserve any sympathy nor should you be pissed on their behalf. Shit, if anybody booted my truck or cars or my boat & snowmobile trailers on my property I'd do the same as you...I'd grab the hypertherm & cut it off...but I'm not in an hoa neighberhood. Some perspective is in order man...they're getting what they're paying for, so it's their problem.
That's exactly what I would do
It's good to live in the country.
The HOA is literally that one bully in school that immediately backs off and shuts up when you call the teacher.
You know, when I was a kid and car blocked the sidewalk...I walked around it.
At most blocking the sidewalk should get you a parking ticket. Booting a car for that is ridiculous.
Oh, you must be one of those kids to lazy to turn around and see if a car is coming while you walk around the car blocking your path.
when l go jogging there is a big truck that blocks the sidewalk... l simply move 2 feet to the right and BOOM crisis averted. HOAs are nothing but nazis.
and what's someone in a wheelchair supposed to do, go out into the street and risk getting hit by a car ?
If a car blocked the sidewalk or crosswalk, I walked around it...and keyed the shit out of it. I hope those paint repairs taught them a little courtesy.
When my dad was alive back in the 80's , his work truck was booted. Yea it took about 1 min for him to leave a pile of bits there
Heck, don't leave it where you cut it off, and don't return it to anyone with the HOA. Bring them to a welder and have a bunch of them turned into modern art.
Time to break out the angle grinder...
except that's illegal
@@GiordanDiodato Booting my truck like these guys did, yes that is illegal.
@@GiordanDiodato not if it was an illegal booting.
When I moved to another state and temporally lived with relatives while finding a house the number 1 rule I told the real estate agent was, "No HOA"!
The guy who booted his car committed a crime and should have been charged.
park all of your cars on the street, wait for the boots to come, and use an angle grinder, they will eventually run out of boots and wont want to buy more
If the private boot is on MY vehicle not by my own choice, it becomes MY boot.
Amen, brother!
To hell with a grinder, cut it off with a torch. 10 seconds and done.
I'll be like, "What boot?"
What boot?
I've heard so many horror stories about HOAs. I would never move into a neighborhood where I had to pay to live in my own house under an insane, greedy Home Owners Association. What a racket. Dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
Sarah Metzgar shoot my grandma got a letter about a couple of weeds on her driveway . She'd been in the hospital from a car accident smh 🙄
Nicolaj Nielsen that’s the dumbest analogy I’ve ever heard
c3h8O I did after the letterThey were tiny and barely noticeable. Plus I was busy taking care of her (she had 3 broken ribs and a perforated lung). There are other houses with rust on their driveways and overgrown lawns but they badger her. 🙄
c3h8O oh and we got the letter like 3 days after she got out of the hospital (I was staying there with her )
Nicolaj Nielsen: Taxes go to the city, county, state, school district, hospital district, and each one of those government identities are suppose to deliver a service to you. Where HOA do you no services only collect dues, and fines just to make sure you house looks just like your neighbors. You would have to beg them if you want to built a pool in your back yard, or any type of garden, or some kind of play ground equipment, or even a storage shed. Then there is your cable or satellite disc, where or not you may fly a flag, how high is your fence. Do you understand now why HOA are not needed or liked by most people?
I told my neighbor to keep watch while I fire up the oxyacetylene rig
If private booting was a crime how did nobody get in trouble?? Seriously? Now HOA's are above the law? Wtf?
if u live in the vegas area and has a boot from your HOA. give me a call. ill come with my plasma cutter/angle grinder and OXY/ACY torch. i only charge a Double Double IN & OUT combo. lol...
Welders, fuck with us and we fuck back with fire.
Because I'm a petty asshat. Id just cut the lock off the boot undo it, and ship it back to the company. Since in this case its legally parked on a city street. Then turn around and invoice them for the ahippkng materials and cost. Wait until taken to court. Beat upside head with city ordinance and law. ??? And profit.
Plyst3
And beat them upside their head with the boot while you're at it.
I just removed the quarter panel of my car leave the boot on and drive around . Then go to the hoa meeting and thow a shit fit about all the pot holes they need to fix
And then u get fined haha fucking idiot
*gets booted for blocking the sidewalk in his own driveway*
*is now unable to move from said sidewalk*
LOGIC
Yes, and will probably get a daily fine for that too.
I feel if they own the sidewalk they should pay part of your property tax...
Arisbel Perez problem with new subdivisions is you can’t park two cars in line in your driveway or the last one is on the sidewalk
I hate hoa’s but you can’t block a sidewalk. People should not have to walk in the street to get around a car. Imagine older people, little kids and strollers. Our village has that law and it’s a reasonable one.
Deb Schwer yes I agree you shouldn’t block a sidewalk, but putting a boot on a car rather than just knocking on their door and telling them to move it is counterproductive. Now with a boot, how are you going to move the vehicle without going thru a time consuming process?
When we were house shopping in GA, one of the stipulations that we made was no HOAs.
When looking for homes in the west I found so many yet my husbands first question was “is there a HOA?” And if there is we won’t be living there. We been married 41 years and he has kept his word…never ever live anywhere near a HOA.
Nobody tells me how to live.
A friend of mine had his car booted by his HOA, I came to his house and picked the lock. I then put said boot on the car of his neighbor who was the head of that HOA, and was parked on the street like my friend.
nice like to have been there when he came out and found his car booted.
I hope your friend changed the lock so their key won't work. Randomly rearranging the tumblers would work.
Love it!
@@buddyclem7328 Krazy glue works wonders........(don't ask how I know that LOL)
@@buddyclem7328 no, i wasn't that mean, i just put it on his car as it was. I may be an asshole, but im not going to stoop to their level of assholery.
If a boot turned up on my vehicle in front of my house,I wouldn't think twice about cutting it off. Another reason to NOT BUY
PROPERTY run by an HOA.
We need to start putting HOA board members in jail for at least 10years with NO parole and a $50,000 fine.
Reason #76 to never ever piss away money in an HOA.
"Hes blocking the sidewalk"
"What should we do about it"
"Boot his car that way he cant go anywhere"
"Wouldnt he still be blocking the sid-"
"Shhh, No more talky"
Edit: HOLY SHIT, 845 LIKES
ikr !
Universal Skeptic People that block should be towed
Universal Skeptic that’s literally my struggle as a security guard. Some of these HOAs have the most ridiculous rules. And then I look like the asshole when I’m there enforcing them lol.
j hrk not if youre on youre own property.
But we get mowah mooolah yayy
the HOA needs to be outlawed in this nation
if the hoa tries to mess with you just strap a rifle on your back and walk outside anytime they try to trespass on your property. they'll get the message very quickly.
@@deltashot5608 Your results may vary state by state. Correct licensure is also recommended.
@@MonkeyJedi99 in most states a gun is considered unloaded if a round isnt in the chamer or the gun is 2 actions away from being fired
@@deltashot5608 That may be legally true, but it is not something clear and evident at even arm's length for most firearms.
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Just looking at it from the other side of the equation. There are few firearm situations where one can clearly see the weapon is not ready to fire on a trigger pull.
> Break-action shotgun broken open
> Clear line of sight to an empty magazine well (still can have one in the chamber).
> Bolt-action with the bolt open and locked to the rear - still need line of sight to that part of the firearm.
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I am NOT anti-gun ownership, I just like to examine the various sides of a situation.
Just don’t move into a neighborhood with an HOA. Simple...
Prison for the hoa people. Then fine the individuals....the gov needs to jump in on this.
Ive had a neighbor (wasnt even a HOA neighbordhood) report my car to the city as “Abandoned” because they didnt like that i would park in front of their house somedays (only street parking was available on this street)
How do i know they did it for that reason? They LEFT AN ACTUAL NOTE TELLING ME THEY DID IT FOR THAT REASON!!!!
Some fucking people …..this planet…..
When your Home Owners' Association has their own office, logo, etc. you know you're getting screwed.
And that's not a small office. Holy crap.
Did you see that cheesy homemade sign behind that poor desk girl?
Looks shady.
And the employees seem to be well fed by the look of that front desk lady!
It's a 3rd party company - they run multiple HOAs. I don't know why any neighborhood would EVER hire a company to run your HOA.
I hate HOAs, I had a flats boat in my drive way which is a down hill drive way and 75' from the road. I get a letter in the mail for the HOA saying they are going to fine me $250 a day for every day it sits in my drive way because it's a danger to other drivers... man I hate them with a passion.
Then don't put up with it and move to a non-HOA area.
or better yet call the police and have them tell the fuckers off that their laws dont override city and state laws and if they continue to harass you then take their asses to court and they will find out real quick that they cant push you around
can I get their number please? I won't say anything about the boats with flats. I just want to call them, using dial up connection set to retry every 30 seconds, and make copies of that dial up connection, use a *.bat file to make it run them over and over, and put my old computers to good use.
Cousins Grimm its your driveway its illegal for them to do that... They can fine you all they want but its your property not a private property so you dont have to pay anything... But yes i suggest you call the local PD as well
nightshadow actually, they do. When you buy a home in an hoa neighborhood...you sign an hoa membership contract at the time you close on the home. That's why I really don't feel much sympathy for people bitching when they were dumb enough to buy there in the first place.
I will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever live in a community with an HOA. It’s absurd and unconstitutional.
F---- all HOAs! 😮
Well done, swift and effective investigative journalism. HOA corporations have a tendency to be predatory with their enforcement in places, not just keeping the properties in proper, maintained order and not letting people farm rusted cars on their lawn.
Seems like fun.. I’d keep parking on the street and keep cutting the boot off..
lee moore yeah they can only buy so many
Peter they have to find it first
Peter I’ll be damned if they find it
Peter Not it you boot the towtruck. Assurt your dominince.
They Can't. Its city streets.
Was buying a house during all this crap Told the realtor, under no circumstances will we buy in a HOA allotment.
I would have walked in my garage with a bolt cutter, take it off, put in my garage and say “thank you for the boot.”
NO HOA ever under any circumstances.
Never HOA! 😎
I wish I could have seen the conversation between the city and the HOA about their illegal booting.
Jay Dee Archer it was probably something like this the city calls up the h o a and said something like hey stay off of our turf you're messing with our business
Homeowners associations should be illegal
I HOPE the presence of one drives down property values. If I was shopping for a new/used home, the VERY first thing I look for is whether the neighborhood has a Naz.. whoops, sorry!, homeowners association. If they have one, I don't bother looking at the houses even if they're under market value.
Good! Blocking the sidewalks prevents people with disabilities from passing. Boot it!👏
Bolt cutters are not that expensive. Everyone should own them. They don't come in handy often but when you need them they are really handy. That lock is history in seconds.
I'd never buy a house where I will be told what I can and can't do.
I just wish we could tell that to the gubment when they send us an illegal bill for property taxes..
Old white people love it tho lol
Wherever there's a lack of HOAs don't forget about the assholes of the Code Enforcement ... In America there is a long line of assholes just waiting to tell you what to do and where to go... America,. Land of the " it's okay to think you're free"...
Exactly
Nobody tells me how to live. 😎
#AbolishHOA
If you buy the house do what you want with it. Hell I'll even help you paint the house lmao
I agree no need for them. They just create a lot of drama.
Taylor Davison #AbolishHOA
Taylor Davison fuck the HOA
You right preech
I live in an HOA community in Florida. I'm also a board member. Florida has exceptionally clear statutes regarding the powers, conduct, and responsibilities of HOAs. I'm surprised more states don't. Our street is city owned, too. If our HOA had pulled a stunt like that, our city police would have had a field day writing up citations for all the parties involved in this illegal act.
I'm currently looking to buy my first house... each listing i see, if it says anything about HOA fees, I go to the next listing without even looking at the property.... They say the HOA is there to keep property values and ascetic looks of the community up, but I would rather have neighbors i feel comfortable inviting over for a bbq
I own an angle grinder, they would have only booted me once, I promise you that.
countryguywithcamera how many discs you got?
@@ethanburns9286 10 pack of cut off wheels for about $9.99 on special. Pretty sure I could find a weak point on that thing and slice it off pretty quick.
I love hearing when a homeowner wins over an HOA
One where someone was grandfathered into a neighborhood with hoa. Hoa really wants them in. They choose NOT to join hoa. Hoa illegally tampers with owner's mail. Owner reports them. Hoa gets a $10,000 fine for commiting a felony. Hoa does illegal mail tampering again (illegally placing 'mail' in the mailbox. Mail was hoa past dues, and a fine for reporting hoa's felony). Hoa gets reported again. Hoa also trespasses and performs illegal search of property and blocking owner's driveway. Owner goes to his towing truck, hoa skidaddles out before owner tows away hoa's vehicles. Hoa places lien on house. Owner takes them to court and wins (hoa has to pay owner's attorney fees plus damages). Hoa places lien on house again. Owner takes them to court again winning. multiple cease orders for hoa to cut their crap.
Is a story i read on reddit long ago. I paraphrased it a lot. It may not be very accurate i left out a lot of legal jargon and a lot of the story.
@@electricspider2267 post the linkkk
Always describe HOA
Saying
“ i get to pay them to piss me off”
Never again
When municipalities in France started booting vehicles people would just fill the locks with superglue. The companies were obliged to cut their own boots apart, and since no one could prove who had added the glue the vehicle owners were not obliged to pay for it. Booting wasn't economically viable so they stopped.
Clever😂
we live in "land of the free" but move to a hoa which very much the opposite. you can't even paint your house unless hoa says yes and even in a draught they expect your grass to be green. in Florida it's really hard to find a house that's not an HOA. HOA thinks they are above the law.
Tampatec land of the free is just a mind game.
Only morkns move into hoa zones. Its bad enough I have to get a permit to do any construction in my own home but I damn sure wont let some private entity ever dictate to me what I can and can't do on my own property
you are a moron
Theres not really a choice sometimes. HOA are taking over a lot of neighborhoods. Also how do you spell moron wrong, it's in your name.
D D its a cell phone.
And its always a choice. You dont have to choose to move somewhere. If you don't and people cabt sell homes because theyre in an hoa they'll stop being a thing
you are a moron
It's as much of a choice as those granted by an oligopoly. Its like saying you have a choice in choosing internet providers or whether or not you want to use electricity at the kwh provided by your energy company. You can always choose not to move into an HOA home or not to get internet from a shitty provider, etc. but the point is that it's essentially an ultimatum where whatever you pick it's going to be just as bad. it's not as simple as choosing to boycott a watch a movie or something, choosing a home is something that affects many aspects of your livelihood and it's not something that most people have many options in.
.....I'm just spiteful enough that I'd get something to cut the thing off, then go drop it on the HOA's front desk with "fuck you' painted on it... That is utterly ridiculous...
I legit believe if we petition for a law that would ban HOAs, I bet it would get passed
Angle grinder cut lock off use to socket loosen... You now own a wheel boot!
When I am house-hunting, my first question for the real estate agent is: "Is this property infected with an HOA?" If yes, I walk. Simple as that.
It's time to outlaw HOAs and imprison their executives.
Good! 😮
It's simple, don't sign any HOA agreements. House you like in an HOA? Don't buy it. HOA disappear real quick when property value drops because of them.
The reason they exist and are growing is that property value in HOA neighborhoods rise faster than non-HOA neighborhoods.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA! Property values in HOA are on average higher than non-HOA neighborhoods. It might be because HOAs don't let morons park in their lawn or paint their house purple.
The truth is HOAs protect property values and keep order in the neighborhood. Forcing people to keep their lawns in good condition, follow the rules, be good neighbors. All it takes is one asshole to move next door to you and if he treats his house like shit the value of your home will drop without an HOA to protect you. When you move into a cul de sac you agree to a social contract with the other homeowners. If you don't like it don't move there go buy a secluded property and do your own thing
HOAs drive away a lot of prospective customers with their restrictive rules.
And the funny thing is... during a recession, HOA properties *drop* massively. This is because the HOA often strikes down bylaws to boost slumping sales..., while those who fear “anarchy” when that happens will often sell.
It’s a very similar concept to blockbusting in the 50s and 60s.
An HOA makes things look good.. and makes certain people feel good.... that’s it. Just like that one carat diamond on the HOA presidents hand that’s worth only 50% of its appraised value because they only people who are going to buy it are pawn shops, jewellers, and private citizens who definitely aren’t paying full value.
@@andremaines "all it takes is one asshole to move next door"
Yep, and that is his guaranteed constitutional right. HOAs can burn in hell. No person should own a house as a financial investment: houses are for living in, not for making money.
Who cares if the property value drops? That means you pay less in taxes. The only people who care about property value dropping are greedy investor fucks who buy second and third homes cheap, and then try to rip off the poor homeless family who needs a home by selling high.
Houses zhould have the *lowest possible market value* because of ethical business. People NEED a place to live. There are more homes in the US than homeless, but prices continue to skyrocket and affordable housing seems to evaporate. This defies the law of supply and demand because of government cronyism, bank schemes to give bad loans in the 2008 housing bubble, and shitty-ass dictatorial HOAs that dont want any "ruffians" or "hooligans" in their neighborhood.
Burn it all down! See how the fat cats like sleeping in the gutter.
That's why I carry a battery operated grinder with a cutting wheel in my truck at all times.
Im thinking the HOA was legally charged for violation of a city ruling and could face legal charges and imprisonment of their president.