5 Things I Love and 5 Things I Hate about the BRP CanAm Spyder!!!
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- 5 Things I Love and 5 Things I Hate about the BRP CanAm Spyder!!!
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No hate mail for me!! Totally agree with you,
I must agree with your assessment 100%. Look at it this way, hopefully videos like this will show BRP where they need to improve in areas and keep others. With the launch of the redesigned Spyder RT in 2020, they have said "We have listened to the Spyder Riders all over the world and told us what they wanted." Well, guess what BRP, you need to listen to them AGAIN!
Ryding a Spyder ... Is the most Carefree Relaxed Ryding you'll ever do! Another Great vlog Bob 👍😁🤘👊 Beanie
You were right on about the good and the bad
#1 good/bad is spot on truth
Agree 💯 especially on quality control. They need to put more pressure on dealers as well. They could learn a thing or two in this area fro HD. Still love our Spyder.
I enjoyed watching your video. Ditto about the 5 things I love and 5 things I hate.
My husband Bob and I have to agree with your points. we have a 2014 RTS for 2 years now and have felt much safer now out on the road, after 40 yrs on 2 wheels! Thanks for what you do!
I own a 2015f3s sm6 50k mi. Have never had any issues. I also think can am could do better in some areas but overall great machines
I agree with you Coach! Especially that the service departments need more training.
Right on Brother! You just tell it how it is and I love my spyder!
Do a video comparing honda goldwing trike to the can am spyder
Over the past 4 riding seasons, we have owned 3 Spyders and 1 Ryker and had problems with all 4 machines. Everything you said about loving and hating the Spyders are "spot on" - we both love and hate these machines. Love the trikes, angry with BRP and their dealerships. We like everything about this video. Great job!
Agree Coach Bob. Add the lack of 5v and 12v at instrument panel/handlebar. Take care. I still love my 2019 Spyder RT Limited ... So much fun!!!
100% agree with you about the handbrake. Being disabled I find it ridiculous that a foot brake is the only option.
The passion you have for both the positive and negative in this review is amazing. It's honest and from the heart. I didn't realize how much your #1 dislike is so obvious, yet I just had accepted it as normal from day 1, that loud obnoxious clunck when putting into gear, worse than my old Honda VTX which was a loud clunk as well.
My favorite part of this video was your thoughts on the handbrake, by the time you were done, I was cheering you on !!
Quality control issues, spot on, there can be a grocery list for this. The obvious one for the 2020 model year was loose mirrors. Mirrors quickly started vibrating within a couple weeks new, got so bad, one miiror was totally useless, had to get this fixed. BRP didn't cover or fix this issue, but they offered an $80 or $90 solution for the parts, plus you had to pay for labor if you went to a dealer. Lamonster put out a solution (miiror locks) for $23 and a good video on how to install. My mirrors have been rock solid thanks to Lamonster.
And those cheap stickers and plastic reflectors on a $30k machine, you said it perfectly.
Luv'd the 5a and 5b solution to keeping your list 5, haha.
As for the storage, yes yes yes !!! I also have a Tour Pack bag, rounded in the back of the bag to fit on a Pillion seat with a tour pack, it's flat on top for an additional strap on bag, I can carry more than I need including the kitchen sink, haha. I would give up that pillion bag storage in a heartbeat though, I would much rather have a rider sitting back there, to share the riding and traveling joys and fun, hopefully one day.
I have to agree that none of the "bad" issues are show stoppers, and BRP will likely address most of those (they do need to dump that BRP app, hopefully add Apple Car Play and Android Auto). But the Spyder is still just a young pup, it's only a "teenager" and has come a long way in a short period of time.
Another great honest review Coach Bob !!! 👍👍👍
Sure agree with all you've said about the Spyder, the good, the bad and the ugly, if indeed there is an ugly. I think it's very nice looking machine.
Another great vlog! Especially agree with the quality control amongst dealers & the wind engineering. Just crossed the Mojave Desert, 106 degrees & very high winds. Slowed down 5 mph & no problem. A motorcycle passed me & was leaned over almost 45 degrees. Thanks for the great observations.
Thank you for your channel, it's very informative. I'm looking into going from 2 to 3 wheels, researching between rear trike and the Spyder. I love your comment about a thorough look at your newly purchased Can-Am before taking it home. My concern is where can I go to get the necessary information I need to do the inspection. As a newly to the Can-Am world, I don't now what it should look like. BRP is not the only one with integrated mapping issues. Even the Honda Gold Wing hasn't worked it out. I agree with the lighting issue and add that ALL motorcycles need more lighting.
I, for one, 100% concur with both, your pros and cons.
I agree with all you points. I would like to add, put a darn hole in the key to put on a key ring, make the adjustments on the side saddle bag opening more accessible. I do love my spyder and I will ride it as long as I can. Good job!
I agree with your list, Coach Bob. However, my RT is my first ever " motorcycle", so the lack of a hand brake is no problem for me. Maybe I don't know enough to know what I'm missing. Agree with everything else. I am really curious to see if the BRP brain trust will respond to your comments. Please let us know if they do.
I agree with all that you have said and you shouldn't be getting any hate mail at all Coach. Number one you are helping BRP understand that they have made mistakes and may be pushing away potential buyers. I love your videos and the help that you are giving us all. God bless you and Coach Vic and keep the awsome videos going. After about 2 years of planning and researching you make me want to bite the bullet and get my Spyder F3-T earlier than next year. Stay safe and ride easy. Thank again.
I agree with you 💯. One problem you missed is the parking break malfunctions. I haven't had it but on Spyder lovers on Facebook it is one a of the most common. I might have chosen the wrong dealership but my experience has been a nightmare. I get upset just thinking about the dealer.
Yes I am dealing with parking brake issues now on my 2021 F3T
@@timebandit5868 I have read about so many problems with Can-Am Spyders I'll be getting rid of it before the warranty runs out.
I agree quit a few little problems that BRP should have adreessed by now but the enjoyment of the ride has been worth it. Hopefully by the time my warranty is up all the glitches will be addressed. BRP should add a manual parking break which would seem to be a simple fix on a 25k machine. Would also like to see the klunking of the transmission addressed but after dealing with our two Rykers the Spyder klunk is next to nill.
I am on my third Spyder, and agree BRP should wake up on Quality Control! Also their Dealer network in terrible, watch Harley network, or Honda and learn! Most dealers hate to see a Spyder come in for repairs and will keep it for weeks! A Spyder is a well designed machine, we need Dealers that care, and want to have return customers! The 10 cent Techs, need to have better training! I am scared to own one without a warranty, the reliability is ranked number 10 out of a possible 10!
The Can Am dealer network is definitely a negative. I'm fortunate to have a good one near me, but many do not.
The late 2021 rtl's come with the belt tensioner installed. My sea to sky has one. I totally agree about the lighting issues and I have put a number of lights on. There are few things that I dislike also, but no deal breakers and the good overwhelms the bad.
I agree with a lot of what you said but I am a 350 pound man I think the seat leaves a lot to desire after about 50 miles my ham bone starts to hurt but that does not stop me from writing it just makes me want to change the seat I bought a air hawk air bladder for it it helps a lot but BRP could do better with the seat that is just my opinion. Thank you Coach Bob a coach Vic love the videos keep them coming
Well Mr. Coach Bob, let me tell you what I think about your pluses and minuses for the Spyder………………….you are absolutely spot on!! Having owned my RTL for just over 2 years I totally agree with all the things you mentioned, good and bad. One additional issue I have is this: digital display is great, but what’s up with the analog needles for speedo and tach? They do nothing, no numbers to read? Yes, the needles move but they’re of absolutely no use. Loved the video and hope you’re having a great trip! Ryde safe.
I have a Ryker Rally AND I have 10 things I Do not like about the Ryker, fun to ride but it has its problems
Agree CoachBob! Quality control needs to be improved. We are seeing many more Spyders on the road in the last couple months. It is a great machine and ride to share with your significant other. Thank you for the great videos! Look forward to them each week. Blessings to you and your family!
Totally agree the app is useless. My Goldwing Trike is much more stable in Wind and Rain. The Spyder hydro planed bad and dances in the wind. One other thing that is not great. Dances on roads with grooves from trucks.
I am researched the Can-am Spyder because I thinking buying a used one because I am retire from a fall at work and I wear right knee brace & I had right knee replace! And tired staying home and taking all those pills I get from two Doctors I see! Mr. CoachBob3
100% agree Coach Bob
Great honest evaluation of the Spyder. Perhaps you meant ergonomics instead of geometry?
The clunk of the transmission sets my teeth on edge.
It is a very large machine, cross winds are just going to be an issue but, they have spent a lot of time in wind tunnels with these machines, you don't get a lot of wind from the front and rain is pushed away from the rider. I ride the tri glide and things just fly out of my shirt pocket and hats off my head (AZ and no helmet law) One the Spyder things stay where they should be.
Great video. Love the like vs the dislikes. Really gives a great picture. We are getting ready to purchase our first and your videos have helped me in so many areas prior to purchase. Thanks and keep them coming.
I agree with you. Hand brake would be nice. I did add a belt tensioner to my 2019 RTL. What a difference. Take care and stay safe.
Thank you for the honesty. We bought a 2020 RTL in January. Lots of investigation into the machines and yes they are not perfect but! They are amazing to ride. Reflective stickers, seriously? That and the harmonic between 45 to 55 mph from the belt. Going to get the belt tensioner. So badly want the floorboard led and rear fender plus saddle bag lights.
CB3 plain spoken honesty is rare these days. Keep it real and keep the videos coming. Looking to get a GoPro soon to share the beautiful rides in Northern VA.
Great video. I totally agree with all your comments, good and bad points.
Transmission into 1st and reverse hate the clunk too, however with the Pedal Commander I have found shifting up like a regular motorcycle the shifting is slick, get it right and its just click, I have given up on BRP App. Touring beast for sure. I have gotten used to having a foot break only, but agree making the hand brake an option would be great. Storage is good enough. BRP aftermarket customer support agree is not good and each dealer is an independent and BRP can't / won't do anything. You have to find a good dealer and stick with them. Design geometry agree 😎 I like to add extra lights for safety but having them in the first place would be nice. Being an older gentleman sometimes a bigger display of some of the information would be good, Speakers and heaters, a big thumbs up😎 Seat for me is comfortable but I think a ButtBuffer is in the future. All other points I agree. Keep the videos coming.
I agree with you 100% I have changed reflectors to led lights I did add brake lights I think the factory lights are a bit to small Oh a that tranny my god and I have the Sea to Sky it just slams into gear I did add the mirror locks from LaMonster just because of watching videos of loosing up after awhile. I am planning a trip your way thinking of going to Corbin will have to hook up for lunch.
I agree with everything you say sir. Keep up the good work. I’d be glad when I can get on one. I want me A F3 limited. I say keep up the good work keep the videos coming love all your comments.
Bob I agree with the hand brake thing should be standard equipment keep them videos coming 👍
I think that you were very fair and 100% spot on in your critiques... as well as compliments!
I don't have the RT though...those heated grips sound nice!!😊..one my complaints on the F3S as well, like no where to charge my phone...had to add that along with adequate headlights and etc...
I think the 20 and 21 are better but still could be improved.
BRP Connect should be renamed to Disconnect. I’ve stopped using it because it was preventing my Cardo from proper voice control.
I need to get more miles on it. Thx as usual.
The hand brake (or lack of) issue is my deal breaker. It just burns me up to think about sinking $20k in something I can't even drive home. I don't know if you have looked at the Rykers but I can't even find anyone that does the after market hand brake for them. Probably because the foot peg and brake controls are adjustable. I'm sure it can be done but probably not without voiding the warranty. My wife was interested in a Ryker but said she didn't want one if I couldn't ride it also. I guess I have ranted enough. Great video, safe travels. ✌
I rode a two-wheeler for seven years, but had no problem switching to a foot brake. I drove a car for a long time, so a foot brake feels natural.
I guess I forgot to say why I can't use the foot brake. I am a right above the knee amputee and left below the knee amputee. To use the foot brake I would have take hand a guide my prosthetic to the pedal. If the pedal was on the left side I could my knee to move to the brake and use it. But technically my license same hand controls only so legally I wouldn't be allowed to do that.
I 100 percent agree... It burns me up also. I also have not found one for the Ryker. I have searched high and low. I have seen people install a handbrake with a master cylinder and tap into the braking system.. You should never have to do that. CanAm/BRP needs to fix this issue.
Great list, I have a new Sea to Sky Spyder and traded in my Ultra Limited. So far we are loving it. I gave up on the BRP connect app otherwise it's been a great bike so far!
Every BRP Ski-doo’s have a spare belt and a belt tensionner tool/system standard!!
Thank you for your honesty. That is really appreciated.
Yup I totally agree,on the positive and the negative 🧐🤓😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦 come on BRP let’s get your 💩 together for the price of these machines. The 20 and 21’s are a big improvement,🥂 from bc.
Another great video, I have a new F3 and at 75 mph the vibration was crazy, felt like a transmission issue, after some research I installed a Lamonster belt tensioner, as you stated the bike should have came with one from the factory. The tensioner made a world of difference. Ride Safe
Certainly agree with you Coach on those points. I could add one but it might be sorta covered in your negative point 5. I have a 2021 F3 Limited....absolutely love it but I get a shake in the handle bars at about 65 give or take if I have a little load on the machine...Load meaning I have to give it a little power up a hill. This runs me nuts...Its not the balance of the front tires... I believe it is the pull on the belt. I did put the tensioner on there but it didn't take it out. So I believe quality control like you said is very lacking. Shouldn't be like this on a new machine. Anyway, best to you guys...keep it up!
Yep your 5 bad reasons I totally agree on $30,000 bike this shouldn’t be like this!! Come on brp get it fixed and stop telling us new year models is better when it’s not!!!
Bob, I agree with you. There are several more things I would like to see BRP change. I have a 2020 RT limited previously I had a 2018 RT limited. First of all I must say I really love the bike! however a few things I would like to see BRP change is I would like to see a 7th speed transmission, I believe that would bring those RPMS down more. I would like to see a tire monitoring system, I would like to see some sort of a remote or key fob that you could lock your trunk and saddlebags with just a push of a button. Also they have to do something with the FM radio reception it is terrible! I know that most people use their phones to play music, I also do that myself but occasionally I don't mind listening to a few radio stations. As far as the clunk you hear when you put the bike into gear a lot of bikes including Harleys do the same thing, Shawn smoak has a CZcams channel that explains what that clunk actually is. Plus he has a lot more information on spiders and BMWs and many other bikes, he is a mechanic for over 40 years that works on these machines all the time. Coach Bob, keep up the great work I love your CZcams channel!
Hey Bob just a little thing to help out with that nasty clunk when going in gear. I have found you can put my 2019 rtl in reverse with out the foot brake on, which reduces the clunk. Now you can go into forward without as much clunk. If you find it works as well for you feel free to share. Jerry & Jill Winchester Tn.
Did a good job on the spyer
Agree. I believe you need to put out a quality product. You shouldn’t have to spend 2,000+ to get it right.
Thank you for the honest info. I plan on buying a Spyder within the next few months and am doing a ton of research.
I'd LOVE to have a hand brake and I'm not handicapped. I love my 2021 RTL, its a LOT better than than my 2015 RTS SM6(Still have love for it though) . Belts are for vacuum cleaners and NOT motorcycles. BRP connect is a joke. I look forward for many miles on my 21 RTL even with short comings.
HEY CB3, was definitely excited to see you make this one. I have a 2020 RTL & IT clunks going into 1st gear also. Was never really sure if it's designed that way & no harm is occurring, or if its a design flaw. But nonetheless it bugs me too. Great video again & i agree with all 10/11 points you made. Love ya from JimKeri
Hi long time watcher first time comment, I have 990 twin spyder and everytbhng you mentioned I totally agree with you, my spyder was second hand well third owner and I had to spend a massive chunk after sorting out some of the things I didn't like about it and consdieirng the machine was 12 years old i wondered how is hadn't hadn't changed after 26,000 miles
Hi I'm from Ohio and I just bought a 2014 spider in 2022 I put 1000 miles on it with in a month and I wour out the right front tire well come to find out the afram bushings were shot its a good thing I bought the extended warranty other than that I really love my machine. I would like to thank you for the videos you and Vick make.
SPOT ON COACH BOB! Totally agree that the BRP app is a hot mess. I find the mirrors feel kinda low. Considering some Big Eyes from Lamonster, not sure yet. All I know is I sure love my Bratmobile and I get grumpy on the days I don't ride. Question...cleaning/detailing the Spyder...some people swear by Lemon Pledge to clean their ride. Others love F11. What do you recommend? Do you like to do a super thorough detail job or just wash and go? Thank you and I really appreciate all you do to keep these videos coming!
Thanks for the video! CoachBob3
Y’all are awesome enjoyed another great video
You have to keep your energy up in your strength if you don't want to sit down and eat a full meal I get it just take your favorite snacks with you Gatorade peanut butter crackers or some granola bars🏍🏍🏍🏍
Didn’t know about those problems thanks
I agree with that list, definitely 😁
@ 13:35 In a side wind, your bike is 100% sail above the blacktop surface.
Fly the kite. It is what it is. Get used to it yah :)
Coach, I want an RT Limited but I don't like the lack of QC or parts (non) availability along with supply and demand.
They can't get enough parts to build them complete for the showroom floor !!!
Why would I want one?
No supply of bikes but the demand is there and the cost is still high.
They could double their sales IF they ever got their act together.
A lot to take in.
Great Video Coach. :)
Prices... ouch. All vehicles are nuts right now. I think the Spyder is priced with all of the other touring machines. Less than the HD 3 wheeler.
Parts acquisition .. a real problem. QC.. improving but need to be better.
Hopefully BRP keeps growing and these issues will get resolved in the sooner rather than later. That said. I love my Spyder...I never thought that I would.
Great comment. thanks for watching 👍
@@CoachBob3 Thanks for the videos :)
Just found your channel but enjoy your video. I agree with you on most but my RT the change in surface will cause it to pull slightly. At highway speeds I will say a little unnerving.
I agree one hundred % the wind reflectors should come standard, the silly stick on deflectors are the silliest if all, when you spend so much money on these bikes. The speaker system needs upgrading. Oh, I have had no radio at all just zoom out no matter the state I am in.
Windshield needs to be higher. Don't know about the horn on the 20,21,22 models, but on my 2019 RTL it could not be heard in traffic. Otherwise lov r the Spyders.
I believe any bike we buy we're always going to find something we like and dislike about it. yes BRP failed on quite a few of those things but overall I do like the spider I have rode over nine states with it and enjoyed every moment knock on wood I have not had any real problems with mine other than a water pump. with that being said what I buy another one yes. Would I recommend to someone to buy one sure. So go out and buy one and create your own memories.537🏍🏍🏍🏍
Until they fix the transmission issues I’m not going to touch a spider. Because of the type of riding I want to get back to doing
Coach Bob - First time watcher of your video and it sounds like your experiences as a seasoned rider is just what I am looking for.
I have gone out on about 4 test rides on Can Am Spyder RT Limited starting on a 2012 model year and the latest ride was on 2021. These machines are expensive but captures my attention on the beauty, safety and unique riding experience on the demo rides. I haven’t pulled the trigger on one yet because I have been riding my two wheels and still immensely love riding them. I have also thought about a traditional trike like a Harley or Goldwing. I have only test driven a Harley trike and that was cool too.
Here’s where I am searching for information that might help a lot of us in the market for three wheels. My greatest desire is to pull an ultra lightweight trailer up to that rated 400 pound range for motorcycling on three wheels to go camping in various places. The three options of course are the traditional trikes in Honda and Harley and now the Spyder RT Limited. Been eyeing up a used 2018 Spyder RT with nearly 24,000 miles on it. Dealer would take my trades for no out of pocket expenses on my end.
What are your thoughts about the best trikes to use pulling that 400 pound trailer? Do you have experience with trailers? For the record, I have tons of experiences pulling trailers of many types and weights with all different kinds of vehicles but not with a trike.
What is your best recommendation? Is the front wheel hydroplaning a big issue on the Can Am if more weight is shifted towards the back of a Can Am with a trailer? That’s not my primary concern since I don’t ride in the rain but if a rider gets caught in a rain event, well you know what is being asked here I think.
Would value any input from you.
Thanks in advance!
We own a CanAm Freedom trailer and have gad great success with pulling it across the country a couple of times. We don't do any camping, as of yet, when we tour. I used to hike and own a lot of light weight caming gear that would suit our needs if we ever decide to start doing that.
We love our little freedom trailer and highly recommend them. They're no perfect and the fit and finish leaves me a little disappointed at times (for the money spent) but they are solid and work great. I'm going to drop links to a couple of videos in reference to the CanAm trailer and just trailers in general.
Thanks for watching the channel. We are grateful to have you here.
this video is an overview of many trailers
czcams.com/video/c4zwX0EF8s8/video.html
this video is on skills of riding with the trailer
czcams.com/video/N6UDzX5RjTA/video.html
A few measurements
czcams.com/video/_Qd-5jvGi9k/video.html
@@CoachBob3 Thanks CoachBob3 in response to my inquiry regarding motorcycling with trailers, particularly the links of videos you provided. I haven’t watched them yet but will shortly. I am subscribing to your channel for updates on your riding experiences and travels.
Information is key for all of us to share and enjoy for numerous reasons. Hopefully other riders asking similar questions about these trailers will gain something here too. Safe riding, take care and God Bless!
I agree 100%
Wow what a great video. The problem is, the dislikes has put me into RANT AND SWEAR MODE. But I'll try to keep it simple. Let's start with the reflectors, how stupid are they?? Every reflector should be Led turn signals. Next the belt tensioner, if it needs one, put it on at the factory. It would probably take 30 seconds or so to install and cost about $ 5.00 . The new Spyders with the mirror problem really?? The quality control is a biggie for me. I mean, if you are paying 25- 30,000 $ for a vehicle, it shouldn't feel like you are buying an experimental kit with cheap or missing components. BUT... The boil maker, is the dealerships. I live in the Metro area of Denver, Colorado not a small rural town. There is 4 dealers authorized to sell the Spyders, if they have any in stock, it will only be one that is probably unpopular, with little interest. Then sales people know very little about them, and don't want to be bothered.
BRP has been doing this Spyder" thing " for a few years now, they have had plenty time and revenue to work out these problems. Ok. Ok. I'll stop here. Thanks for the Ryde along. Stay Alert. Ryde Safe in a fun way. Thanks for sharing. Keep on Spydering. 😎.
What is your preferred dealer in Colorado ?
@@sbyrd6503 Proud Souls BBQ of Denver, is veteran owned with a good selection of several brands Has a great amount accessories and supplies.
@@thegrumpyolgringo For Can Am Spyders ?
@@sbyrd6503 Sorry I didn't read the original comment thought it something else. Can Am Spyders Sun Enterprises in Thornton near Denver area seems to have a few on there website, but looks to me just duplicate photos.I think there's a dealer in South Colorado Florence Colorado. Called Fremont Motorsports, just checked their website they have nice selection of Rykers and a few Spyders. The other dealers in the Denver area I wouldn't bother,
@@thegrumpyolgringo thx
Coach, great video. My wife is looking at transitioning from 2 wheels to a 13 RT SE5 that a friend in our church has. Have you done the belt tensioner mod on your machine?
I have not done a belt tensioner on mine. I really have not experienced bad vibes. I know many who have though. Thanks for watching.
Agree with everything. This is my first Spyder and I spent time in 3 different dealerships before I found one I felt comfortable with, 2 hours away.
BRP connect is useless! So sad. It should already be supporting Android auto and iPhone car play!!
Any chance someone knows how the 2020+ RTs are with the windshield esp at high speeds and for the passenger? Really looking into this purchase but want to ensure it wont be an issue for my wife. Also- if it is- if there are after market WS someone might suggest
My mother passed away 2 years ago. She had a can am spyder rt that I now have. It has not been started in 3 years. It has 600 miles on it. What service do you recommend me getting
If you don’t like the clunk then you won’t like a Goldwing as they do it. Most motorcycles do it. Dumping $100 on the GPS app is bad compared to $600 on a Garmin??? Too funny! Bosch is the developer of it and it’s a lesser version of MySpin which comes on high end European vehicles like Land Rover. Any new device takes a bit of learning to get used to. I know it had problems at first but I love it. Way cheaper than a Garmin and I don’t have to have gadgets cluttering the handlebars. (Which can damage the gadgets BTW). Plus if a cop sees you playing with the phone it could be expensive. Using the joystick doesn’t get noticed.
The motorcycles that I have ridden for the last 45 years don't even resemble the CanAM clunk.The lack of a clutch and feeling that drop into gear is a tad unnerving. Many Spyder are shearing off metal parts with the clunk.
The interface on the BRP app fails each time I shut the Spyder down and it is very cumbersome. The BRP App is a real thorn.. I feel it is a great start.. but without further development it is a waste of time and energy.
I do agree it is much cheaper option... But.. I really do appreciate the ease of operation associated with the Garmin. I hope BRP develops the app...I really do want to like it. After crossing the continent twice on the Spyder.. I used my iPhone and Garmin. Both served me well.
Thanks for the insightful comment and I appreciate you watching the channel.
@@CoachBob3 You use the Garmin because you’re used to it. Instead of BRP trying to develop it further, how’s about the users try to learn it. Bet you didn’t find the Garmin easy at first. Not many did, same thing with the phone technology, needs to be used to get better at it. It’s unfortunate that so many want it to be easy and since it take a bit more effort, they give up and go back to what they know.
You're making assumptions here that are incorrect... "what I know". lol...Actually..This is my first Garmin which I have ever purchased.. after using the BRP App for well over a year. I'm glad you like the BRP App... But as for me.. I will pass until I don't have to open my frunk each time I turn my Spyder off to reset the App. Or haver to pull over on an interstate because it simply decides not to work. All of which happened many times over a year of working with it.
The Garmin is also far from perfect.. but it is stable in its performance. Which when I am traveling is paramount.
Thanks for watching.
@@CoachBob3 Probably need updating firmware. I never had to on my 2018 or have to on my 2021 reset the app. I’m reading where many have problems and it’s mostly due to not having everything up to date. Especially the app. As I said it will take years for many to figure it out. By then there will be something newer to have to learn. It also amazes me that many buy a Garmin when they have a smartphone that can do it for much less. You have both. :-D
Does the earlier 998 v twin 2014 RS SM5 also need the belt tensioner or is that just a 1300 issue
Mine is a 2019 and I don't have a tensioner on mine... If there are no "bad vibrations" I wouldn't put one on. Great question.
My 2021 has the best tranny I have fad. My 15 had the clunkbut the 21 is butter smooth.
I also agree with your list. Since you told me not
let off throttle using paddle shift it's smother on my 2019 Spyder F3 limited. There is a very slight pause before it shifts. Bike has 3700 miles. I've been thinking about the pedal commander after watching you using yours. What do you think..?
I'm back home in Palm Coast, Florida now. I'd been in Missouri for 7 months helping my 46 year old son with a serious head injury from a fall..he's much better but still unable to drive and has to walk with a cane..so hope to meet you and coach Vic some day..hope coach Vic is doing well..A friend,
Robert
I love my Pedal Commander... It is a lot of fun. If ya get one.. lemme know. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
@@CoachBob3 is it normal for there to be a short pause before it shifts with the paddle..I know you're busy but if you get a minute..we're leaving home in Palm Coast to go back to K C MO. 9/5...help son...I was so looking forward to meeting you at DeLand rally...maybe at another event..ride safely to both of you 🙏
@@roberttrenttrent7676 yes there is a mild pause. It appears to me…The lower the rpm the longer the pause. I would call it a click shift… not a quick shift. 👍👍👍👍
@@CoachBob3 Thank you 😊
Are Rykers having the same transmission issues ?
Why don't you cover a ryker for coach vic.?
Every time we discuss it... she says nahhh. Maybe one day though.
After reviewing your video. I’ve decided, not to purchase a can-am spider. You are the best and I love your videos. However, I understand all 5 of your downsides are dealbreakers to me. I like a company that will stand behind its product.
You are missing a great experience. Do what I did and buy a used one. That way, you're not investing a lot of money to see whether you like it. I bought my 2012 RT Limited four years ago, and I'm loving it. Looking forward to trading up within a year or two.
I appreciate your honesty and that is exactly why these videos are made. We all have different needs and expectations. Regardless of what you ride...ride safe and I hope to see you on the road someday!
Question: Does Coach Vic have any issues seeing over your shoulders, or around your shoulders? I'm 6'2 and my wife ( boss Christy) is about 5'3. have you done anything to increase her seat height?
I definitely can’t see above him. I have to consciously lean to the right or left of his shoulders to see out front, otherwise, I’m looking to the side. It’s a bit of a nuisance to not see straight forward all the time, but I’ve gotten used to it. 😎
@@BasicParaStuffwithCoachVic thanks for your response. Keep up the good work with the videos...I look forward to them.
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You left out the shitty paint job just looking at it and it scratches....
Hi, bought one RT and sold it after 500 miles. Handling is skidoo like and you can't avoid any potholes/street poor conditions. I apologize in advance but here it is....your review is far from the truth with respect to riding experience. If you can still ride a two wheeler, stay away from this expensive toy. Happy trails!
No apology necessary.. with three wheels you cover the lane. Traditional trike or Spyder, avoidance of all obstacles are a challenge. Opinions on the Spyder, as with any vehicle, vary greatly.. that said... My views are in fact ...TRUTH... with ten's of thousands of miles riding on a Spyder and 2 wheels , 2 continent crossings on a Spyder and decades of experience on two and three wheelers to back that up.
We just disagree... and that is A O K. They are certainly not for everyone. Thanks for watching the channel and sharing a dissenting opinion and viewpoint. We need to hear that the Spyder as with any vehicle...motorcycle, trike or automobile..is not for everyone.
Safe riding!!!