2018 Dodge Charger Daytona 6-speaker Alpine "system"... • I replaced the two 3x5s in the front with Infinity Reference REF-3032CFX 2-way speakers. • I replaced the rear 6x9s with Infinity Reference 9633IX 3-way speakers. Here's the issue: • Mids and Highs *Chefs kiss • Bass - almost gone. I used Chrysler/Dodge specific harnesses, so the wiring was plug and play (positive and negative are different sizes to prevent misconnection). I've chalked it up to the new speakers being higher quality and needing a higher quality Amp to actually push them. • 1. Am I on the right path? • 2. I'm DIY, but know almost nothing about car audio - so I'd love the "idiots guide" to adding an Amp, and Sub (anything else needed?) to my vehicle to get this done. I found the following: • 1. A single 10"vSkar Audio SDR-10 Dual 2-ohm Subwoofer (600W RMS) in a xox made to tuck into the trunk of the charger (where beats sub used to fit on the older chargers equipped with it). • 2. Skar Audio RP-1200.1D Monoblock Class D MOSFET Amplifier with Remote Subwoofer Level Control. Peak Power at 1 Ohm: 1,600 Watts | RMS Power at 1 Ohm: 1,200 Watts. I would love an assist in understanding everything needed and how to wire properly (I'm visual)...allvhelp is greatly appreciate. Ultimately I just wanted a little turnup from what came factory in this vehicle. Thank you!
Great job excellent upgrade,I've used Crutchfield for my hi-fidelity sounds for over 40yrs,higher in price but you get all necessary hardware and lifetime one on one customer service !!!
The sound is terrible and you can't hear it with the windows down. Definitely needs upgraded. You would think the price of these cars..they could install something better than an 80's Blaupunkt
Thanks for the vid info. Very helpful! However, was there a breakage on the side panel where it meets the A pillar? Was that caused by trying to remove the pillar cover before the dash side panel? Curious, There are a couple of important points you forgot to mention or didnt know. 1- Be very careful in loosening the A pillars because you dont want to damage or contact any important electrical connections in the Airbags that are placed there! Serious damage may result if not careful! 2- It has been noted on various Challenger forums that sometimes the factory has the polarity of the connections reversed on the plugs going to the speakers! Out of phase speakers will sound poor, and/or cause speaker failure eventually. 3- Take advice from whoever your sources are with a some caution, and do your own research to verify certain details. Otherwise, thanks for your video and explanations. ( local shops want to sell you as much as you are willing to buy: Amps, their line of speakers, upgrades, electronic processors and such. I too chose the reference for the dash, but the CS Kickers 6.5 for the rear deck. ( I found them to sound significantly better than the Infinity for the back, but sound is a very personal experience. )
@@drone1028 It's best to go with a component speaker. This is my exact set up. Infinity Reference REF-9630cx Infinity Reference REF-6532ex Infinity Reference 7005A Alpine S-W8D2 PAC AmpPRO AP4-CH41 Aftermarket Amplifier Interface Dynamat the doors and rear deck
If you really want to spruce up your audio game.. get a DSP. Obviously replace your current speakers too but you'll get better performance out of them if you use a DSP.
GREAT INFO, exactly what I was looking for. Couple questions. Were there any problems getting the long front dash cover back on? I saw the clips on the part of the cover that were facing you but did not see now the piece connected on the other side that is closer to the windshield. I am looking at a powered subwoofer that would contain its own amp. Will I need to purchase a line out converter in this type of install? I would assume no. I am guessing you have a line out converter because your sub is separate from your amp? When you connected the sub to your rear speakers, did you have to connect to both rear speakers? And how did you determine the polarity of the wires (which wire is positive and which wire is negative) on the stock rear speakers. If you don't mind, can you share what color wire is positive and what color is negative for each rear speaker so I can tap correctly on my install? Again, great video and information!! (I posted same questions in the Challenger Forum)
I just ordered all Infinity speakers to replace these crappy Alpine speakers. Also adding Infinity amp to run door and rear deck speakers along with the 8 inch subwoofer mounted in the rear deck.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen, putting a 6x9 woofer in a door, that car should have two 6x9's tri-axels in the rear deck, a 6.5 coax in the doors, and than the 3.5's in the dash. I had my 2017 Challenger less than a week and replaces the whole junk alpine system with infinity kappa in the doors, two Austin Prima in the rear deck, two 3.5 infinity reference in the dash, and an 8 inch sub in the trunk, with an aftermarket amp. All the factory speaker went in the trash where they belong. Dodge should be ashamed of themselves for putting such junk in these vehicles.
I added an alpine amp and 12" sub to the trunk then changed all factory speakers with s-series alpines component speakers in front and coax in the rear. My rear speakers are drowning out the front speakers. The factory setup did not do this. Any one have any suggestions why or how to fix?
I have a 2017 challenger with the hk system. I don't think the rear deck has 2 3.5s like you said. I've heard they're 5.25s. I wanna know if I can out 6x9s in there tho?
My dash 3.5 are 8ohms. I believe what you replaced yours with were 4ohm. Have you not had any issues running the 4ohm dash speakers without an amp? I’m trying to figure this out as I hate the base non amped system I have. Thank you.
I’m curious on what speakers I need for louder music. I have the alpine ones that came stock but it doesnt seem like the volume is loud enough, the bass is great but it’s like it’s not reaching max volume.
@@coolfern37520 The factory system is garbage. This is my exact setup and it sounds amazing. The 8 inch sub has a nice punch and blends perfectly with the rest of the speakers. It won't shake the ground but it will definitely rattle your car. Just be sure to dynamat the doors and rear deck. Also your going to have to add either foam striping along the back edge of the cover to help with vibrations. I'm thinking of dynamiting the under side. I did the foam and it helped with most of the rattle. Also depends on the music you listen to. My setup Pac amp pro ap4-ch41 Alpine S - W8D2 Infinity reference 7005A Infinity 9630cx Infinity Kappa 60csx
The 6 speaker alpines are ok if you're not a audio guy, but if you like a little bass, it's not enough. And the alpines are not crisp/clear, they sound like when you have your equalizer setting to all mid range. I install the 6" infinity to the rear deck, it's much better now.
What this guy said! They aren't awful. But they aren't awesome either if you are into audio. I added a 12" powered sub to my 2020 Challenger and it helped a lot. But hear I am reading this, so I guess I am looking for an improvement.
GREAT VIDEO N INFORMATION, TOO LATE 4 ME..ALREADY RECIEVED SKAR 6X9..INSTALLED ALL SKAR AUDIO LASTNITE, THEY HAVE 20% OFF PRODUCTS FINISHED AT 0115AM. U R CORRECT, 6X9 GETS NOTHING BUT BASS SIGNAL, N I NEED A SPEAKER ADAPTER FOR BOTH ,6X9 N 6.5 REAR DECK. LCI2 PRO AND SKAR SUBS GOIN IN TODAY AFTER WORK.
@@viksvehicles HAVNT PUT SUBS IN YET, GOTTA KILLMAT MORE. BUT THE OTHA 6 SPEAKERS SOUND FAR GREATER THAN ALPINE STOK IN REDEYE CHALLENGER. GET A LCI2 PRO N OTHA NEEDED ACCESSORIES FROM AMAZON. FOR 20% OFF SKAR WEBSITE N $600 TOTAL FOR 6 SPEAKERS N SUB WIT AMP. I HAVE NO REGRETS. JUS HAD 2 DO SUM MODS FOR 6X9 UP FRONT TO FIT STOCK ADAPTER.
hi just purchased these same 3.5. wondering if I should add the bass blockers that come with it. why didn't you add it? talking about the resistors that come with it.
The stock head unit should already filter the sound signal going to the dash speakers so no bass is going through there. No need for additional bass blockers since it is already high-passed. The speaker itself should have a built in crossover/capacitor that blocks the bass going to the tweeter.
@juicevr so did u add the bass blocker . I had kicker dash speakers and they were way too pitchy at higher volumes . I had to turn the treb all the way down . I just ordered these infinity , I hope I don’t have the same problem .
So you only changed the dash speakers? I know there is an ohm difference. Stock is 2 ohm and most aftermarkets are 4 ohm. I talked to Crutchfield today and the guy said dont do it. That if I wanted to upgrade all the speakers I'd end up having to replace everything. He said because of that ohm difference that I'd have to turn the volume all the way up just to hear anything. I'm just curious how yours sounds and if you need to crank it up just to hear it. Thanks
I believe my Infinity dash speakers are 3 ohm. The volume is normal, the rear speakers will distort if I crank it while the dash speakers remain crystal clear. Even if the Infinity’s were 4 ohm I don’t think you would have an issue with having to crank the volume, just search for a speaker with a high sensitivity rating. I will probably eventually upgrade the rear speakers too since the fronts made such a difference, but I am very happy with the outcome for now.
Crutchfield told me the same, but i added the JBL clubs to the dash and rear, they are 3 ohms and the sound is amazing. I also added a Focal 10 inch sub in the truck. The volume of the 3 ohm speakers is exactly the same as stock alpines. The sound at 23 for example on he radio is exactly as loud with either set.
Sound level sounded similar. The Infiniti’s have a good efficiency rating so they will play loud even there is a difference in ohms. Regardless of which brand you go with, the most important thing for me was to get some highs, as the stock speakers lacked tweeters and couldn’t hit the high notes very well.
@@viksvehicles so I added the JBL club 3 1/2 last weekend; they are a 3 ohm speaker; it made a tremendous difference having a tweeter. After doing the front, now it’s obvious how bad the single cone rear speakers sound; the sound stage is off with the front sounding great but the rear adding nothing so this weekend I’m adding the matching JBL clubs 6 1/2 to the rear. I fully expect the system to sound great. I’m leaving the 6/9 woofer in the door and I really don’t think adding a sub will be necessary; I don’t think it would improve the sound enough to justify the cost. (I added a $1000.00 focal sub and enclosure to my 2020 charger and while I could hear a small difference; it wasn’t worth the cost. Overall, I expect the system to sound great for the cost of $200.00. I’m an audiophile and have always had upgraded stereos in all my cars and have expensive B&O headphones and an expensive home theater; I really think the base Alpine system with only the modest cost addition is more than enough to make the Challenger more than adequate. The main difference is adding 4 tweeters to a system with none from the factory
2018 Dodge Charger Daytona
6-speaker Alpine "system"...
• I replaced the two 3x5s in the front with Infinity Reference REF-3032CFX 2-way speakers.
• I replaced the rear 6x9s with Infinity Reference 9633IX 3-way speakers.
Here's the issue:
• Mids and Highs *Chefs kiss
• Bass - almost gone.
I used Chrysler/Dodge specific harnesses, so the wiring was plug and play (positive and negative are different sizes to prevent misconnection).
I've chalked it up to the new speakers being higher quality and needing a higher quality Amp to actually push them.
• 1. Am I on the right path?
• 2. I'm DIY, but know almost nothing about car audio - so I'd love the "idiots guide" to adding an Amp, and Sub (anything else needed?) to my vehicle to get this done.
I found the following:
• 1. A single 10"vSkar Audio SDR-10 Dual 2-ohm Subwoofer (600W RMS) in a xox made to tuck into the trunk of the charger (where beats sub used to fit on the older chargers equipped with it).
• 2. Skar Audio RP-1200.1D Monoblock Class D MOSFET Amplifier with Remote Subwoofer Level Control. Peak Power at 1 Ohm: 1,600 Watts | RMS Power at 1 Ohm: 1,200 Watts.
I would love an assist in understanding everything needed and how to wire properly (I'm visual)...allvhelp is greatly appreciate.
Ultimately I just wanted a little turnup from what came factory in this vehicle.
Thank you!
Great job excellent upgrade,I've used Crutchfield for my hi-fidelity sounds for over 40yrs,higher in price but you get all necessary hardware and lifetime one on one customer service !!!
Yea my case stock and volume only goes to 38 there’s no reason I have it all the way up and can still hear the person right beside me
Thank you for the part numbers and sizes something other tutorials didn't include appreciate you man
After watching this video I order mines plus all speakers in the car and can't wait to try them out. Thanks for the instructions and for this video 👍
How many speakers in total will have?
@@TeamoGuardioladepends on the the system you have. Base system with no amp is 6 speakers.
The sound is terrible and you can't hear it with the windows down. Definitely needs upgraded. You would think the price of these cars..they could install something better than an 80's Blaupunkt
Thanks for the vid info. Very helpful! However, was there a breakage on the side panel where it meets the A pillar? Was that caused by trying to remove the pillar cover before the dash side panel? Curious, There are a couple of important points you forgot to mention or didnt know. 1- Be very careful in loosening the A pillars because you dont want to damage or contact any important electrical connections in the Airbags that are placed there! Serious damage may result if not careful! 2- It has been noted on various Challenger forums that sometimes the factory has the polarity of the connections reversed on the plugs going to the speakers! Out of phase speakers will sound poor, and/or cause speaker failure eventually. 3- Take advice from whoever your sources are with a some caution, and do your own research to verify certain details. Otherwise, thanks for your video and explanations. ( local shops want to sell you as much as you are willing to buy: Amps, their line of speakers, upgrades, electronic processors and such. I too chose the reference for the dash, but the CS Kickers 6.5 for the rear deck. ( I found them to sound significantly better than the Infinity for the back, but sound is a very personal experience. )
If you want sound you have to always go after market system with amps etc
Interesting. My Dodge Dart GT has 3 - 3.5 inch speaker sin the dash 4 - 6x9s, 2 - 3.5 inch speakers in the rear deck and the 8 inch sub.
The door speakers 6x9 for dodge challenger are full range if they dont have amp.. just replaced mine in my 2020r/t with skar 3 ways.. highly necessary
I changed my front 6x9s and they play full range not just bass now
What did you replace it with?
@@drone1028
It's best to go with a component speaker.
This is my exact set up.
Infinity Reference REF-9630cx
Infinity Reference REF-6532ex
Infinity Reference 7005A
Alpine S-W8D2
PAC AmpPRO AP4-CH41 Aftermarket Amplifier Interface
Dynamat the doors and rear deck
@@drone1028 I replaced it with 2 skar tx69’s and 4 skar Spx-t’s
If you really want to spruce up your audio game.. get a DSP. Obviously replace your current speakers too but you'll get better performance out of them if you use a DSP.
GREAT INFO, exactly what I was looking for. Couple questions.
Were there any problems getting the long front dash cover back on? I saw the clips on the part of the cover that were facing you but did not see now the piece connected on the other side that is closer to the windshield.
I am looking at a powered subwoofer that would contain its own amp. Will I need to purchase a line out converter in this type of install? I would assume no. I am guessing you have a line out converter because your sub is separate from your amp?
When you connected the sub to your rear speakers, did you have to connect to both rear speakers? And how did you determine the polarity of the wires (which wire is positive and which wire is negative) on the stock rear speakers. If you don't mind, can you share what color wire is positive and what color is negative for each rear speaker so I can tap correctly on my install?
Again, great video and information!!
(I posted same questions in the Challenger Forum)
Thankyou Sir very good info. I have challenger v6 any recommendations from you will be helpful as im planing my sound upgrade too.
I just ordered all Infinity speakers to replace these crappy Alpine speakers. Also adding Infinity amp to run door and rear deck speakers along with the 8 inch subwoofer mounted in the rear deck.
What 8 inch sub did you order?
@@drone1028
I got the Alpine S-W8D2
@@cdesalme did it drop into your rear deck? My 2020 challenger rear deck is 4 1/2 deep.
@@drone1028
Yes, you will need to drill new mounting holes but not a big deal.
Hey check the jbl or kicker amplifies woofer all you need cleaner
That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen, putting a 6x9 woofer in a door, that car should have two 6x9's tri-axels in the rear deck, a 6.5 coax in the doors, and than the 3.5's in the dash. I had my 2017 Challenger less than a week and replaces the whole junk alpine system with infinity kappa in the doors, two Austin Prima in the rear deck, two 3.5 infinity reference in the dash, and an 8 inch sub in the trunk, with an aftermarket amp. All the factory speaker went in the trash where they belong. Dodge should be ashamed of themselves for putting such junk in these vehicles.
So i have a 2017 SCATPACK charger and I got the beats system would this be better then the beats or should I stick with mine?
I added an alpine amp and 12" sub to the trunk then changed all factory speakers with s-series alpines component speakers in front and coax in the rear. My rear speakers are drowning out the front speakers. The factory setup did not do this. Any one have any suggestions why or how to fix?
sound processor. look into that.
Thanks man I was curious great vid
No modification required
I tried to upgrade my challanger speakers but they told I have to buy PAC AP4-CH41
Is it true
Only if you plan on driving the speakers with aftermarket amps and want to keep all of the factory head unit features (chimes, handsfree, etc...).
I have a 2017 challenger with the hk system. I don't think the rear deck has 2 3.5s like you said. I've heard they're 5.25s. I wanna know if I can out 6x9s in there tho?
My dash 3.5 are 8ohms. I believe what you replaced yours with were 4ohm. Have you not had any issues running the 4ohm dash speakers without an amp? I’m trying to figure this out as I hate the base non amped system I have. Thank you.
What did you do I’m having the same issue it’s a 8 ohm amd my options are slim
I’m curious on what speakers I need for louder music. I have the alpine ones that came stock but it doesnt seem like the volume is loud enough, the bass is great but it’s like it’s not reaching max volume.
Mine gets much louder if it’s plugged in thru usb instead of using Bluetooth
Best way is to bypass the factory amp. Replace the rear deck speakers and replace front door and dash speakers with a component set up.
@@cdesalme I have the factory harmon kardon upgrade and I'm dealing with the same issue and was thinking about doing what you're saying.
@@coolfern37520
The factory system is garbage.
This is my exact setup and it sounds amazing. The 8 inch sub has a nice punch and blends perfectly with the rest of the speakers. It won't shake the ground but it will definitely rattle your car. Just be sure to dynamat the doors and rear deck. Also your going to have to add either foam striping along the back edge of the cover to help with vibrations. I'm thinking of dynamiting the under side. I did the foam and it helped with most of the rattle. Also depends on the music you listen to.
My setup
Pac amp pro ap4-ch41
Alpine S - W8D2
Infinity reference 7005A
Infinity 9630cx
Infinity Kappa 60csx
I don’t understand I either hear the alipines are amazing or they’re trash wtf
The 6 speaker alpines are ok if you're not a audio guy, but if you like a little bass, it's not enough. And the alpines are not crisp/clear, they sound like when you have your equalizer setting to all mid range. I install the 6" infinity to the rear deck, it's much better now.
Trash!
What this guy said! They aren't awful. But they aren't awesome either if you are into audio.
I added a 12" powered sub to my 2020 Challenger and it helped a lot. But hear I am reading this, so I guess I am looking for an improvement.
GREAT VIDEO N INFORMATION, TOO LATE 4 ME..ALREADY RECIEVED SKAR 6X9..INSTALLED ALL SKAR AUDIO LASTNITE, THEY HAVE 20% OFF PRODUCTS FINISHED AT 0115AM. U R CORRECT, 6X9 GETS NOTHING BUT BASS SIGNAL, N I NEED A SPEAKER ADAPTER FOR BOTH ,6X9 N 6.5 REAR DECK. LCI2 PRO AND SKAR SUBS GOIN IN TODAY AFTER WORK.
Nice! I heard good things about Skar Audio. Do you recommended I use them for a future install? How are you liking them so far?
@@viksvehicles HAVNT PUT SUBS IN YET, GOTTA KILLMAT MORE. BUT THE OTHA 6 SPEAKERS SOUND FAR GREATER THAN ALPINE STOK IN REDEYE CHALLENGER. GET A LCI2 PRO N OTHA NEEDED ACCESSORIES FROM AMAZON. FOR 20% OFF SKAR WEBSITE N $600 TOTAL FOR 6 SPEAKERS N SUB WIT AMP. I HAVE NO REGRETS. JUS HAD 2 DO SUM MODS FOR 6X9 UP FRONT TO FIT STOCK ADAPTER.
hi just purchased these same 3.5. wondering if I should add the bass blockers that come with it. why didn't you add it? talking about the resistors that come with it.
The stock head unit should already filter the sound signal going to the dash speakers so no bass is going through there. No need for additional bass blockers since it is already high-passed. The speaker itself should have a built in crossover/capacitor that blocks the bass going to the tweeter.
thanks for the help. just did it to my charger. big difference. followed your steps.
@juicevr so did u add the bass blocker . I had kicker dash speakers and they were way too pitchy at higher volumes . I had to turn the treb all the way down . I just ordered these infinity , I hope I don’t have the same problem .
Did you have to use a pac audio adapter for the amplifier?
So you only changed the dash speakers? I know there is an ohm difference. Stock is 2 ohm and most aftermarkets are 4 ohm. I talked to Crutchfield today and the guy said dont do it. That if I wanted to upgrade all the speakers I'd end up having to replace everything. He said because of that ohm difference that I'd have to turn the volume all the way up just to hear anything. I'm just curious how yours sounds and if you need to crank it up just to hear it. Thanks
I believe my Infinity dash speakers are 3 ohm. The volume is normal, the rear speakers will distort if I crank it while the dash speakers remain crystal clear. Even if the Infinity’s were 4 ohm I don’t think you would have an issue with having to crank the volume, just search for a speaker with a high sensitivity rating.
I will probably eventually upgrade the rear speakers too since the fronts made such a difference, but I am very happy with the outcome for now.
@@viksvehicles Thanks, the Crutchfield guy basically talked me out of it. Said it wouldn't help the sound. I'd like to see how you installed the sub.
@@viksvehicles Well I went ahead and ordered the front pair.
Crutchfield told me the same, but i added the JBL clubs to the dash and rear, they are 3 ohms and the sound is amazing. I also added a Focal 10 inch sub in the truck. The volume of the 3 ohm speakers is exactly the same as stock alpines. The sound at 23 for example on he radio is exactly as loud with either set.
where do i get the harness from
Did you notice any difference in the volume level of the dash speakers as you went from a 2 ohm to a 4 ohm speaker?
Sound level sounded similar. The Infiniti’s have a good efficiency rating so they will play loud even there is a difference in ohms. Regardless of which brand you go with, the most important thing for me was to get some highs, as the stock speakers lacked tweeters and couldn’t hit the high notes very well.
@@viksvehicles so I added the JBL club 3 1/2 last weekend; they are a 3 ohm speaker; it made a tremendous difference having a tweeter. After doing the front, now it’s obvious how bad the single cone rear speakers sound; the sound stage is off with the front sounding great but the rear adding nothing so this weekend I’m adding the matching JBL clubs 6 1/2 to the rear. I fully expect the system to sound great. I’m leaving the 6/9 woofer in the door and I really don’t think adding a sub will be necessary; I don’t think it would improve the sound enough to justify the cost. (I added a $1000.00 focal sub and enclosure to my 2020 charger and while I could hear a small difference; it wasn’t worth the cost.
Overall, I expect the system to sound great for the cost of $200.00. I’m an audiophile and have always had upgraded stereos in all my cars and have expensive B&O headphones and an expensive home theater; I really think the base Alpine system with only the modest cost addition is more than enough to make the Challenger more than adequate. The main difference is adding 4 tweeters to a system with none from the factory
I think I blew a speaker in mine 😢
So can you add any type of sub in the trunk ?