Jeep Wrangler TJ rear axle upgrade, JUNK YARD to ULTIMATE Ford 9 inch build
Vložit
- čas přidán 3. 12. 2019
- This will be the first video of my Rear axle upgrade. Switching from my Ford 8.8 over to a Ford 9" axle. I will be stripping the axle down and setting up the third member with 5.38 gears an upgraded yukon gear center section and 35 spline axle shafts. Prepping for the DIY disk bake upgrade and setting it up for the Long arm and stretch that will be happening soon.
Check out our website: muddybeards4x4.wixsite.com/my...
Amazon Store: www.amazon.com/shop/muddybear...
Get 10% off your purchase at Barnes4wd with this link or use “muddybeards” at checkout
www.barnes4wd.com/?ApplyPromo...
Get your OnX Offroad Free trial and use Coupon code “Muddybeards” for 20% off your subscription. subscribe.onxmaps.com/offroad...
Get 10% off your Yes Welder purchase and using coupon code “muddybeards”
yeswelder.com/?ref=dVU5yUQ6
Yankum Ropes: yankum.com?afmc=1v
Get 10% off Olight Products, with coupon code “muddybeards4x4” www.olightstore.com/s/8A018Z
Get 12% off the Setpower AJ30/40/50 With the coupon code: “MuddyBeards4X4”
www.setpowerusa.com/discount/...
Tools I Use, MotivXTools: www.motivxtools.com/
10% off coupon code: muddy
www.setpowerusa.com/discount/...
DISCLAIMER: Due to factors out of the control of Muddy Beards 4X4, we cannot guarantee against improper use or unauthorized modifications of this information. Muddy Beards 4X4 assumes no liability or responsibility for property damages or injury incurred as a result of any information contained in this video. Use this information at your own risk. Muddy Beards 4X4 recommends safe practices when working on vehicles and/or with tools seen in this video. Any injury, damage, or loss that may result from improper use of these tools, equipment, or from the information contained in this video is the sole responsibility of the user and not Muddy Beards 4X4. Be safe! This video and description contains affiliate links, which means that if you click on one of the product links, we receive a small commission. This helps support the channel and allows us to continue to make videos like this. Thank you for the support!
Always happy to see a Muddy Beards vid get uploaded :D
Nothing is more satisfying than the click of a torque wrench! Much respect for tackling this job on your own. Looking great so far!
Thanks I appreciate it!👊🏻
Great job, Kelly! Always enjoy your videos.
Thanks I appreciate that👍🏻
Great video. I built a 9” for my TJ. Total cost was 1,500$. I used a speedway motors third member with full spool 4.88 gears and also went over to bronco graveyards and bought a disc brake conversion kit. Would highly recommend it. Best upgrade ive done so far.
Ebrake or no ebrake?
It came with ebrake cables for a bronco.. way to long for tj. But i used cable clamps to make it work. Ill send you a picture on instagram
A trussed 9" 35 spline axle is equivalent to a Dana 60.The axle shafts are virtually 1.5" as are the 60 shafts. The 9" is also builder friendly since you can adjust the ring gear by the spanner nuts. Another quality of the 9 " is that you can get Hi pinion carriers from Strange, Currie and TrueHi9. These are great for pinion clearance when rock crawling. My issue is the as mentioned Chinese bearings and the Chinese press!
Thank you
That is going to be one tough axle . Looking forward to your next video . Until next time take care .
That’s the goal👊🏻
Great vid!
Pretty sweet, bro. I personally have always liked the Ford 9inch axle. Tons of aftermarket support and parts are available at any auto store, although you are modding it. Removable 3rd member makes gear swaps easier if you're a racer. Everyone seems to want tons now, but I still dig the fine 9. Great build, bud.
Thanks, yep tons of different part options and usually a lot cheaper than other axles as well👍🏻
9’s can compete against tons, stronger and lighter than some of the stock tons. Check out Ultra4. Most of them are using modified 9’s in one or or anther, both front and rear.
A trussed 9" 35 spline axle is equivalent to a Dana 60.The axle shafts are virtually 1.5" as are the 60 shafts. The 9" is also builder friendly since you can adjust the ring gear by the spanner nuts. Another quality of the 9 " is that you can get Hi pinion carriers from Strange, Currie and TrueHi9. These are great for pinion clearance when rock crawling.
nelson mol A 9 inch has a smaller ring gear than a Dana 60. Most swapped 60’s are full float, 9’s in the junkyard are not. I would say the Dana 60 stock to stock has an edge. A built 9? Sure, ill give it to the 9 all day.
Amazon shopping. 🤣
Legit - looking forward to the next one!
Your pinion guard makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. LoL Great video. Thnx
For your race's I would suggest freezing the race and heating the housing makes for a smoother install and doesn't put aluminum shavings behind the race all in all great vid
I will definitely do that next time👍🏻
Awesome video!! This is fun fabrication!! Almost to 10k!! 🙌👍❤️🐞
Thanks👍🏻
Nice!
axle in the freezer and bearing in the oven at 200 for 30 minutes and bearings fall right into place.
Yep, I am going to give that a try tomorrow, thanks for the tip.
that works amazingly well. just be ready and move fast...
On a side note, you can also get a cheap electric cooker and some vegetable oil and heat your bearings up in an oil bath and slide them on. Also the bearing retainers work way better when they are pretty hot. I heat mine to 350.
Could you weld some supports on the outside of the legs of the press and remove the center support that gets in the way of the axle ?
Can you daily a spool in the rear axle? I'm thinking of doing some budget friendly upgrades
Did you also get the Upgraded 35 spline Big Pinion from quick performance? I’m trying to set up my 9 in to be as hard to break as possible since I’m only going up to 35’s
Nice!!
Are the sealed bearing 9" Fords considered weaker? Seems like they would be?
BTW, I use a 34" iron pipe over the axle to install the bearing and keeper. Works like a slide hammer and slides right on.
How would you turn a 9in Ford into a front axle with lock out hubs ?
How much power would these hold? I want to build one for my grand Cherokee. Need it to hold about 1000 hp. But want to build it so it’s cheap. My buddy has a ton of Ford 9” laying around
Hola muy buen vidio muchas Gracias
Always love seeing your videos!!! Is the 9 inch that much stronger then the 8.8?
Thanks man👊🏻 I have been getting this question a lot so I will be addressing it in the next video.
I'm building a 8.8 ! Now I want 9🤔.... Looks good.😎.. I have a question are you still running that hack n tap SYE? I'm going with that when I put my 8.8 in. I'm only going to run on 35's, will I be fine for the time being... Thanks
The 8.8 will be great with 35’s you should have no problems. As far as the hack n tap, it was on there when I bought the Jeep 10 years ago all the way from 33’s to now 40’s and it has been fine. I believe I will be installing a real sye on this build just because with 40’s it kinda sketches me out, but I would say 35’s no problem.
I just got a ford 9" for my TJ project. Can't wait to get things moving!
How are the Yukon axle shafts holding up? Are you happy with them?
I am piecing together parts for mine currently.
Thanks for the great video!
Nice. so far, so good. Haven’t broke them yet, lol.
@@MuddyBeards4X4 Sweet!
I'm sitting here watching your Walker Valley ORV Park 2018 video.
Where’s the links to the shafts?
Dude, you do some SERIOUS wheeling in that bad ass jeep. And that’s all with a pretty much stock inline 6 4.0 motor?? I find it hard to believe that 195 HP can move that thing over rocks and crap like that especially while running 40’s! Have you done any mods to the motor?
Very nice content and killer wheeling! Keep it coming.
Thanks man, motor is stock. It’s all about low gears. I have 5.39 in the axles and it’s not low enough
How wide is this 9”, and does it match up with your ‘76 hp Dana 44 front?
It is 65”. And it would match perfectly if I hadn’t narrowed the 44 years ago. Now I have to run 1 1/2” wheel spacers to make up for it.
could have ordered a complete third member from quickperformance for cheaper then $858 lol
Funny I'm tossing one in my '78 for an '87 10.25 sterling... What I want to comment on is lose the crush spacer if you haven't already and use a pinion spacer and shims.
I stopped using crush sleeves years ago. 👍🏻
Did I miss why you are ditching the 8.8? Also would like a review of that welder.
Wasn’t able to move the 8.8 back anymore because of the offset of the pumpkin hitting the tank and I will be doing a review of the welder in the near future👍🏻
I want to use it for a while on this project to give you guys a real honest review. Not just use it once and say hey this thing is awesome👍🏻
Was it a full width 8.8? I have one with chromolly axles Detroit locker 4.88 gears. Then I have a 9"rear with Richmond lockers. Thought about going with 8.8 but then everyone saying go one tons. How much did this cost you. Doing it your self. Thanks
It was a explorer 8.8 so about 59 1/2” wide. The TJ is about 61 1/2”. So the super 88 kit brings it out to match the factory Tj width. Depending on how big your tires are, how much power you have or how hard you beat on it, but the 8.8 is a great axle. But if I had both I would probably go with the 9”.
What is the width of your 9" housing?
65”
Do you still feel the ford 9” was the right choice?
How does it compare clearence/ weight to a d60?
9” all the way. Still working great.
@@MuddyBeards4X4 I unfortunately haven’t been able to watch ALL of your videos, yet, but what did you use on the front axle wise ?
High pinion Dana 44 out of a 76 f150
Truss it?
Absolutely, a lot more videos to come on this project👍🏻
What size tire can that rear take great video keep them coming
I am running 40’s. 35 spline axles, should be fine.
That's the size tire I want to run again great information
I need the guys number you sold your old axle 2 I have some stuff to sell!!!
Lol, snake oil... but seriously you couldn’t build my old axle for less than $1800 in parts, not including labor if you can’t setup gears or weld yourself👍🏻
Have you looked at using 8.8 brakes instead of going the custom route? Looks like your going the ruffstuff route ...
Yes I did, that was another option as well. I went with the ruff stuff bracket but I sourced everything else locally and saved some $.👊🏻
@@MuddyBeards4X4 when you do that video please touch on reasons for that decision. I'm curious about the ebrake. Love the knowledge and the content 👊
For sure👍🏻
What vehicle did you get your donor 9” out of for your project?
It’s from a 1980 f150.
If you will throw your axle in the deep freeze overnight and heat your bearing with a heat gun the bearing will fall into place
Might have to try that with the bearing retainer, that thing is snug, lol.
Why is that 8.8 worth so much money???
Just curious why you didn't go 1 tons?
In my opinion there is no need for tons in a light TJ like mine, unless you will be throwing big power at it. A well built 9” will be more than strong enough. Also smaller, lighter and better ground clearance
A Dana 60 ring gear measures 9.75. as the 3rd pinion bearing on the 9"and if be willing to bet (with the reduced deflection) the strength is similar. As to that the added ground clearance and in my mind you have a winner until you get into 14 bolt or Dana 80
My question is, did the 8.8 give you issues? I feel as though that would be sufficient on you're weight and hp.
@@kyle3861 i agree i dont see the real upgrade in a 9 inch over the super 88
@@ryanhubble9157 the 9 inch is a big upgrade over the 8.8 actually.... Back to the added pinion support, Bigger spline count options, and a better housing
If you only kept the housing, why not just by after market housing. Would have save a lot of time.and effort
Might saved time but not money. There are not really any cheap aftermarket housings in the width that I want. Also can sell some of the old parts I took off.
Time is money
Titled, “Ultimate,” uses Chinese Yukon parts with 35 semi float spline axles and a small splined pinion...What would a 10 inch, 35 spline pinion, chromoly full width housing, full float, spindled, 40 splined axle shaft, 4 inch third member build be? 🤓
them wrangler boys go for name brand over quality lmao
Tate Pruitt whats even more interesting is Yukon is bottom of the barrel when it comes to name brands and a built 9 inch style dropout axle build....
I built, literally this exact setup but with 5.13 gears. Even went to quick performance for their third member kit. The best place to go, that I found, for 9" timken bearings is broncograveyard.com
Nice, I have bought part from bronco graveyard before, the problem was I didn’t really plan ahead, and needed them basically same day. Should have got them at summit when I was ordering other parts to get free shipping.
@@MuddyBeards4X4 yeah, summit racing is usually my go to as well, but every year bronco graveyard does a 10% off store wide around Christmas, and that's when/where I got all my Yukon chromoly shafts and super joints for my dana 44 and 9 inch.
Possibly a silly question, but are the set20 replacement for the tapered roller bearings and races? I’m in the process of building a 9” and none of my local parts stores have that answer.
@@williamsdieselrepair8662 the SET20 bearings are the tapered roller bearings. From what I understand tapered roller bearings have better load carrying capabilities.
Yes, the set20 is the tapered roller bearing,race,seal and bearing retainer all together👊🏻
Isn't this a differential? Why does everyone call it an axel? The axels are the shafts from bearing to bearing. The whole assembly is a differential.
Too bad portals are over-priced and under-designed.
Instead of muddy beards, you should call it I die my beard. Dont do that. It doesnt look natural bud.
If you meant dye than you are incorrect, all natural bud, never dyed my beard before, maybe the lighting? Next time I will make sure I get a close up on all the grey in there, lol.
DANA 60/70 👍 ford 9inch 👎. If you think they're to heavy well that's what you need for crawling and wheeling, 9inch overrated.
I would have done it. Not because I'm better than you but because in Canada the hospital is free.😉