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hilariously that's just Austria allowing themselves to get annexed because they have a stupid decision to do their own referendum without the Germans so even if Germany get clapped by the allies and the Allies freed Austria then the Austrian AI can just re Anschluss themselves 5 seconds later
If you know what you’re doing Bulgaria can easily get well over 100 factories as cores And I’m pretty sure Bulgaria can core all the Balkans from any path
The collaboration government you saw is the one the devs have Germany do against Norway every game. They can’t do collaboration government on their own.
Bulgaria is definitely one of my favourite countries. The compliance gain in the third empire path is so ridiculous, and its so rewarding to conquer the balkans instead of just pressing buttons and hope the pie charts work out in your favour.
@@princam_4775 do the fate of the balkans focus, have prejustified goals against greece and yugo, have atleast 24 good quality divisions, declare on greece, push greece out of thrace while having most of your army against romania, take thessaloniki and leave 4 units there. Take out romania, but declare on yugo right before they cap. You shoild be in an easy position to manage the rest yourself.
@@Vuosta I definitely got better results with that strategy, but I still cannot manage a victory. I'm using 9 infantry with engineers and support artillery and my divisions are losing to undersupplied low org Romanian units.
Much as i disliked the Bulgarian tree initially, and then grew to love it over time, i have been playing a lot of Greece games recently and the tree and political mechanics have grown on me a lot. You can actually build up a decent industry, and aspects like the Schlactplan give you the chance to weigh up the consequences. I think what hurts the Greek tree is that you often end up at war early doors against some bery strong foes.
Megali Idea Greece stealth GOATed. You get an exciting early game war with a democratic nation, balancing the recovery of a shit economy. Then, you have to wrap it up ASAP to get ready for Italy and Germany, and Venizelist Greece has the resources and manpower to actually contest the Balkans alongside Yugoslavia. You gotta hold out til Barb, and then the Germans opening an entire extra front lets you save the Balkans from German/Ustasha occupation. It's wild and nowhere near as turtly as Communist/Monarchist Greece, while not being absolutely schizophrenic like Byzantine/Macedonian fascist paths
Do you know of a good way of beating Turkey that isn't the retreat-encircle-retreat strat near the bosphorus? I wanna play the byzantium route without cheesing it
My gripe with most of the greece tree is that for most paths, you kind of run out of relevant focuses by mid 1941, which historically, is fine. But if you survive past that, or lord forbid you don’t get declared on by the italians, you just… kinda don’t do much. Yeah there’s byzantium, but that tree ends with its formation, not to mention it uses the ass system of requiring a bunch of specific provinces spread out across a bunch of countries big and small in order to core anything, and if youre missing even one state you get nothing. Yeah there’s also the extra focuses in your military tree for going byzantium, but those feel like fun little easter eggs for flavor more than anything.
With the Greece focus tree, you’re supposed to finish the eco section of the tree before heading into the political side. Every CZcamsr I’ve seen either ignores the eco tree or just takes the foreign subsidies factories before racing off to create Byzantium. Going down "Force the Farmers" side of the eco tree gives you 12 off map factories, which is really, really good considering the limited real estate of Greece. Add on the industrial concern, once you "Crack Down on Foreign Monopolies," that gives you an additional 15% military factory production, and the Schatplan + tourism industry (another rarely used but incredibly powerful focus) that puts you at 0% CG at Partial Mob, you can churn out factories while you make your way down the political branch to war with Turkey. You can even build a spy network to plan your war with Turkey during the 35 day window when they have no guarantees. Then you either join the Axis to knock out the UK, or wait and build up your forces until the Axis completely control the Balkans and are balls deep in the Soviet Union. Play your cards right and you can have a triumph for the Balkans, significantly reducing the peace deal costs to recover your new cores, and you won’t even generate WT doing so, plus eventually a triumph for Italy after you get the puppet.
@@CarvaxIV FINALLY, someone else seems to appreciate the incredible value of right-path Greek Economy. If you act early and well, you get a really excellent economic booster shot when it's super important.
I somehow got all the Switzerland achievements in 1 run without historical focuses. I have no clue how, or why. But im glad I dont have to ever touch that focus ever again.
But then in certain situations they will steal occupied land from you as well as filling your lines and taking your supply forcing you to restrict the supply hubs. They need to fix it, you cant attack through neutral land anyways, and there would 100% be situations where the frontline was put in places you are unable to attack from due to neutrality.
Pretty epic video but i was just wondering if you would consider flashing all of the achievements that you acquired in a video at the end in your acheesements to z cause like it would super satifying or something
You can also go for the Democratic path Balkan Confederation, and then flip Non Aligned or Fascist later on. Pull a Palpatine on them. "I AM the senate!"
Pro tips: you can stage coups in the other Balkan countries in order to "help" them get communist governments. Once a civil war is triggered you can can even help the communist revolutionaries fight that civil war. That can take a lot of guns though, so you might want to build mils from the start and get rid of the treaty penalties by getting rid of the IMRO. Also, Romania is a better target for coup than Turkey because it's one less war to worry about if you do it quickly enough and the Soviets don't ask for Bessarabia, and also because you get ALL Romanian cores as yourself, rather than just the European part of Turkey.
Requesting "No More Partitions" for the current version of the game! I was non-historical, allied with the German Empire (in MY faction), eventually capitulated the Soviet States of Asia (they did the Trotsky thing) and the achievement never fired.
Can someone tell me what godlike airplanes our gentleman/psychpathic isorrow is using ? I cannot manage to do as good as him even when i have better planes than the AI.
Remember battle for the Bosporus was when Paradox outsourced it with one person working on each tree. Also the person working on Turkey spammed victory points in the Middle East especially Kurdistan, I think Kurdistan now has around 40+ victory points for some reason. Edit: Kurdistan has 19 VPs in Turkey and 44 total VPs in all their cores
And this is why invading Turkey has long been fun for the first 15 seconds until you get to the point of walking through the SE portion, which not only lacks supply hubs, but even a rail network of any kind. Why are Turks so sweaty? I mean, is Kurdistan really equivalent to the entire midwest US?
I don't understand why you can even move units from Rhodes to the mainland. Its 11 miles from the coast irl. Probably just a bit too far for an army to swim...
You can get all of Romania really quickly by order 66'ing them early on. Do the be friends with neighbors focus and then justify a wargoal on Greece while getting military access from Romania. If you get lucky, you capitulate them quickly and puppet them, then take out Greece and puppet them. Then rush down the focuses to annex your faction and all you're missing is the territory Italy has and the European side of Turkey which there are ways to get without causing WWIII (e.g. cause a civil war in Turkey and then pressure the rebel government for its land)
I just want to know if Germany got to keep the cores. personally when I puppet Germany I let them keep Austria. it just makes more sense. unless I'm a smaller country and I break them down a bit to maintain faction leadership. Germany is still surprisingly productive even as a puppet.
start up a game with ironman and historical turned off, play as some irrelevant nation, then open the console and type "fa", "focus.nochecks", and "focus.ignoreprerequisites". then sit back and watch the madness unfold
I find it's much better to just mass small fighters for the fielded manpower to trick the other countries into thinking you've got a massive army. This way you've at least also got yourself tons of planes you can use rather than having tons of divisions to delete. It's how I did this back in NSB. I think I also use that trick as Hungary for Austria-Hungary.
Bulgaria, based or cringe?
Based
based
So cringe it wraps around to be BASED
There’s no reason for Bulgaria to be this fun
ALBANIA NUMERO UNO!!!!1!
cringe
The "Prussia of the balkans" achievement only works if turkey is in a faction and then gets capitulated, thats why you didnt get it.
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why am i seeing you everywhere now lmao,
oddly specific
@@MaskedRokho Check ur windows. I am always watching you.
Germany annexing Austria again made me laugh so hard.
hilariously that's just Austria allowing themselves to get annexed because they have a stupid decision to do their own referendum without the Germans so even if Germany get clapped by the allies and the Allies freed Austria then the Austrian AI can just re Anschluss themselves 5 seconds later
CZcams censored the first reply to this comment, unfortunately
@@Tom-oj7si Wow, that is so weird, I have never seen youtube do such bad things ever before.
@@Tom-oj7si oh that's what's happening? i thought i just bugged out and couldn't see it
I once saw a (small) reply section with the entire thing stalined.
Isp: Bulgaria is so fun!!! Proceeds to do literally nothing until 1942
And has to restart entire playthrough once
you look familiar mister hilter
If you know what you’re doing Bulgaria can easily get well over 100 factories as cores
And I’m pretty sure Bulgaria can core all the Balkans from any path
austria-hungary too if formed by Croatia giving bulgaria more cores
@@yatobg5952 The Paradox gods truly make some counties very powerful
@@The_Clanker keep on clanking
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So i decide to see how many more cores you can get... czcams.com/users/shorts6wBoPiMNYHk?feature=share its a lot
The collaboration government you saw is the one the devs have Germany do against Norway every game. They can’t do collaboration government on their own.
ISP,this is the 7th week in a row you’ve shown a “secret superpower” in class.
“Behold, the most powerful nation in hoi4!” *holds up Bulgaria*
Bulgaria is definitely one of my favourite countries. The compliance gain in the third empire path is so ridiculous, and its so rewarding to conquer the balkans instead of just pressing buttons and hope the pie charts work out in your favour.
Any advice on how to conquer the balkans? Romania guarantees everyone and is always too strong for me
@@princam_4775 do the fate of the balkans focus, have prejustified goals against greece and yugo, have atleast 24 good quality divisions, declare on greece, push greece out of thrace while having most of your army against romania, take thessaloniki and leave 4 units there.
Take out romania, but declare on yugo right before they cap. You shoild be in an easy position to manage the rest yourself.
@@Vuosta I definitely got better results with that strategy, but I still cannot manage a victory. I'm using 9 infantry with engineers and support artillery and my divisions are losing to undersupplied low org Romanian units.
@@princam_4775 oh bro i use that with 4 line arty in the divisions and declare in early 39 you need to get more factories faster
Fun fact:
Italy is now "Regno del Sud", that means Southern Kingdom but without having Southern of Italy.
Much as i disliked the Bulgarian tree initially, and then grew to love it over time, i have been playing a lot of Greece games recently and the tree and political mechanics have grown on me a lot.
You can actually build up a decent industry, and aspects like the Schlactplan give you the chance to weigh up the consequences. I think what hurts the Greek tree is that you often end up at war early doors against some bery strong foes.
Megali Idea Greece stealth GOATed. You get an exciting early game war with a democratic nation, balancing the recovery of a shit economy. Then, you have to wrap it up ASAP to get ready for Italy and Germany, and Venizelist Greece has the resources and manpower to actually contest the Balkans alongside Yugoslavia. You gotta hold out til Barb, and then the Germans opening an entire extra front lets you save the Balkans from German/Ustasha occupation. It's wild and nowhere near as turtly as Communist/Monarchist Greece, while not being absolutely schizophrenic like Byzantine/Macedonian fascist paths
Do you know of a good way of beating Turkey that isn't the retreat-encircle-retreat strat near the bosphorus? I wanna play the byzantium route without cheesing it
My gripe with most of the greece tree is that for most paths, you kind of run out of relevant focuses by mid 1941, which historically, is fine. But if you survive past that, or lord forbid you don’t get declared on by the italians, you just… kinda don’t do much. Yeah there’s byzantium, but that tree ends with its formation, not to mention it uses the ass system of requiring a bunch of specific provinces spread out across a bunch of countries big and small in order to core anything, and if youre missing even one state you get nothing. Yeah there’s also the extra focuses in your military tree for going byzantium, but those feel like fun little easter eggs for flavor more than anything.
With the Greece focus tree, you’re supposed to finish the eco section of the tree before heading into the political side.
Every CZcamsr I’ve seen either ignores the eco tree or just takes the foreign subsidies factories before racing off to create Byzantium.
Going down "Force the Farmers" side of the eco tree gives you 12 off map factories, which is really, really good considering the limited real estate of Greece.
Add on the industrial concern, once you "Crack Down on Foreign Monopolies," that gives you an additional 15% military factory production, and the Schatplan + tourism industry (another rarely used but incredibly powerful focus) that puts you at 0% CG at Partial Mob, you can churn out factories while you make your way down the political branch to war with Turkey.
You can even build a spy network to plan your war with Turkey during the 35 day window when they have no guarantees.
Then you either join the Axis to knock out the UK, or wait and build up your forces until the Axis completely control the Balkans and are balls deep in the Soviet Union.
Play your cards right and you can have a triumph for the Balkans, significantly reducing the peace deal costs to recover your new cores, and you won’t even generate WT doing so, plus eventually a triumph for Italy after you get the puppet.
@@CarvaxIV FINALLY, someone else seems to appreciate the incredible value of right-path Greek Economy. If you act early and well, you get a really excellent economic booster shot when it's super important.
Yup one of my favourites, if you get the old coup-maker in charge via fatherland front or whatever it's called ur stronk AF
I think if the game gets late and Germany and Austria have the same ideology, Austria gets an event that lets them get Anschlussed
I love hearts of iron four! (I’m not a robot programmed by paradox thanks bye)
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A new iSorrowproductions video on my birthday?! This is unprecedented and extremely satisfying.
I'm late but I hope you've had a cool birthday!
Very cool video mr productions, love me some hearts of iron
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I somehow got all the Switzerland achievements in 1 run without historical focuses. I have no clue how, or why. But im glad I dont have to ever touch that focus ever again.
You can stop frotline snapping onto neutral by asking for a millitary access.
But then in certain situations they will steal occupied land from you as well as filling your lines and taking your supply forcing you to restrict the supply hubs. They need to fix it, you cant attack through neutral land anyways, and there would 100% be situations where the frontline was put in places you are unable to attack from due to neutrality.
Is the achievement "I captured the Bosporus and all I got w..." a reference to the greece-o-slavia t-shirt ?
yea
On the naval part of your focus tree you get cores on the black sea, agean and Adriatic seas. The first two covers most of turkeys land
I love this man
Pretty epic video but i was just wondering if you would consider flashing all of the achievements that you acquired in a video at the end in your acheesements to z cause like it would super satifying or something
And no one believes me, that bulgaria is actually major still.
Why are you not at 800k subs yet? I want to watch the ALF LANDON PLAYTHROUGH!
Damn another video. Thats 2 times in a row!
Your videos have become a part of my life’s routine and I’m not sure if that’s a good thing
"Invading the Soviet Union should be easy" -iSorrowproductions, October.
You can fix the frontline attaching to nations thing by getting mil access with them
You can also go for the Democratic path Balkan Confederation, and then flip Non Aligned or Fascist later on. Pull a Palpatine on them. "I AM the senate!"
I also like transferring the territory to the 5k support equipment lying around
Pro tips: you can stage coups in the other Balkan countries in order to "help" them get communist governments. Once a civil war is triggered you can can even help the communist revolutionaries fight that civil war. That can take a lot of guns though, so you might want to build mils from the start and get rid of the treaty penalties by getting rid of the IMRO. Also, Romania is a better target for coup than Turkey because it's one less war to worry about if you do it quickly enough and the Soviets don't ask for Bessarabia, and also because you get ALL Romanian cores as yourself, rather than just the European part of Turkey.
Hoi4 has some strangely great nations. Bulgaria, Lithuania, Chinese Warlords, the Netherlands…
Chinese Warlords are what finally helped me get into HoI4 and understand what I was doing.
Requesting "No More Partitions" for the current version of the game! I was non-historical, allied with the German Empire (in MY faction), eventually capitulated the Soviet States of Asia (they did the Trotsky thing) and the achievement never fired.
I love funny map man
Bulgaria is the best nation to play in Battle for the Bosporus. So many wacky ways to play them
Ah, a blessing from the lord
Love the way you say Bulgaria
Can someone tell me what godlike airplanes our gentleman/psychpathic isorrow is using ? I cannot manage to do as good as him even when i have better planes than the AI.
Remember battle for the Bosporus was when Paradox outsourced it with one person working on each tree.
Also the person working on Turkey spammed victory points in the Middle East especially Kurdistan, I think Kurdistan now has around 40+ victory points for some reason.
Edit: Kurdistan has 19 VPs in Turkey and 44 total VPs in all their cores
And this is why invading Turkey has long been fun for the first 15 seconds until you get to the point of walking through the SE portion, which not only lacks supply hubs, but even a rail network of any kind. Why are Turks so sweaty? I mean, is Kurdistan really equivalent to the entire midwest US?
video idea : play as liberated israel and conquer the world....... i swear that will make the "Sorrow" in ISP more prominent
LETSSSS GOOOO BULGARIA PLAY THROUGH
I dunno what is worse: Balkan Italy, or Yellow Italy
14:58 Vietnam being cut in half by china is so cursed, especially since they're practically the same color
I don't understand why you can even move units from Rhodes to the mainland. Its 11 miles from the coast irl. Probably just a bit too far for an army to swim...
You can get all of Romania really quickly by order 66'ing them early on. Do the be friends with neighbors focus and then justify a wargoal on Greece while getting military access from Romania. If you get lucky, you capitulate them quickly and puppet them, then take out Greece and puppet them. Then rush down the focuses to annex your faction and all you're missing is the territory Italy has and the European side of Turkey which there are ways to get without causing WWIII (e.g. cause a civil war in Turkey and then pressure the rebel government for its land)
Isn't it usually done the other way around: Ignoring Turkey because you do not get cores anyway?
I just want to know if Germany got to keep the cores. personally when I puppet Germany I let them keep Austria. it just makes more sense. unless I'm a smaller country and I break them down a bit to maintain faction leadership. Germany is still surprisingly productive even as a puppet.
Fun fact: ISP went insane years ago and has been recording from within a padded room ever since
3:10 That is weirdly accurate
babe wake up, new ISP achievement video just dropped
start up a game with ironman and historical turned off, play as some irrelevant nation, then open the console and type "fa", "focus.nochecks", and "focus.ignoreprerequisites". then sit back and watch the madness unfold
I got an ad for clash of clans and it was just a tik tok from that paramedic guy
I just started Freegpyt achivement run. I regrereveryrhing except my navy
If you spam 0 while watching this video, you'll find where ISP is going after he dies.
I find it's much better to just mass small fighters for the fielded manpower to trick the other countries into thinking you've got a massive army. This way you've at least also got yourself tons of planes you can use rather than having tons of divisions to delete. It's how I did this back in NSB. I think I also use that trick as Hungary for Austria-Hungary.
Bulgaria has always been my 2nd favourite antion in hoi4
Cool thx for the good opinion can I ask what's your first?
Hungary@@whatislovebabydonthurtmedont
Bulgaria is Brazil 2.0.. Or at least Brazil of the balkans.
Why is everyone calling Bulgaria Brazil 2.0 in hoi4 tho?
Hey you take that back about Ethiopia and Greece!
Alf Landon!
yes
3:15 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA lmao
seeing Balkan Russia remind that Balkan vodka exist and taste like Listerine
When I saw the focus ''Prussia Of The Balkans'', I knew..., you were going to play as Bulgaria...
Bulgaria's been known as the Prussia of the Balkans since before WW1
Alf Landon artillery only!
ISP then: Italy is the worst tree.
ISP now: Italy is one of the best trees.
*world then promptly ends*
The last time I played Bulgaria Balkan commie path (forever ago), you didn't get cores on Turkey
A blessing from our lord
imagine if a balkan country invented the nuclear bomb lmao
After 600 hours I'm finally burnt out and for the better. I'm sure I'll come back to playing the game but it is honestly detrimental to my health lmao
gravy timmy love cheese mints
Bread shortages
Why we have the phrase ‘quote-on-quote’ iSorrow!
Do romania next
That's a good China
does he not realize that “I captured both sides of the Bosphorous, and all I got was this T-shirt” achievement is based after Greece-o-slavia?
"Skynet" :)
when do we get CK3 achievement runs oh please oh please it would so make my day
When are the Vic 3 videos coming dad
Your words are poison
You were supposed to post this 40 minutes ago when I was sitting down to lunch.
I'm a simple man, I see ISP's video i click
map man
Lore of The Secret Superpower Of Hearts Of Iron 4 momentum 100
Next please do Turkey!
When a path requires such nonsensical RNG I can't help but question why its considered a "good" focus tree. 🤔
turkey achiments are gonna be fun cince 2 of those bacikly you hafe to do a wc
for the kurdistan achievment you just play as another country and kurdistan and play as it
Do Artillery Only
GOCHUCHUNG VIDEO WHEN?
2:23 Unless you mention the word quate on quate.
It's a cursed Byzantine Empire...
koala yogurt sea
I would give my soul for house of kurds
What was the Template of the Main division?
Bold opinion: I actually like the Turkey focus tree
Turkish focus tree is trash :/ I think best FT is italian FT
So a Democratic Germany being able to Anschluss Austria is quite hilarious and quite devious.
if you guarantee albania they might actually decline anschluss by italy
Austria: Stays democratic because two main undemocratic factions are still trying to have their way
3:12 Well alot of German communists joined the brown shirts back in the early 30s, so this isn't that crazy
Post number amount of achievements you have in each title please!
Alf Landon
God damm he took the hard way in doing these achievements. Doing it via Democracy and flipping communist is waaaaay easier
hello, suffering cheese man