Recording MIDI with a KEYBOARD, Virtual Instrument, or Synth in Pro Tools
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- čas přidán 30. 12. 2017
- Control a virtual instrument and/or capturing midi notes and audio from an Analog keyboard using midi cables through the in & out ports within Pro Tools and an audio interface
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Equipment in the video:
ProTools Software by AVID
Korg MicroKorg 37-Key Analog Modeling Synthesizer with Vocoder
Hosa MIDI Cable, 20 feet
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This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you for showing how to connect midi to your DAW. Now I just need to upgrade my interface so it can accept midi!
Love your execution from plugging In to playing your session good stuff
Wow wow finally I got it.Iam searching for the for last five years.Thanks ,Thanks for uploading this valuable video.
theadore100 glad it helped.
Big help ... thanks...
Thanks for the video!
No problem, hope it helped you.
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Very helpful
Glad to help. 🤙🏽
I had so much trouble with this, thanks so much!
No problem. Best wishes on your music.
Thanks bro.🙂🎵🎼🎶🎶🎼🎵🎵🎼
Thanks brother. I'm not there yet, but this is a foreshadowing of things to come :) Just getting started with audio recording at home.
Dplik best wishes on your audio journey.
@@SOUNDINTHECITY much appreciated!
Dude - this is one of the best quick tutorials I’ve ever seen.
I’ve had Pro Tools for 2 months, it wasn’t until I saw this video that I realized the potential and now I can’t stop thinking about ideas. 🙏
holly shit , you explain so fast hardy i can catch up
You can slow down the whole video speed with CZcams settings, or pause it on certain sections. Hope you get the info you need. Best wishes
So if my interface doesn’t have midi in and out? Will still work with pro tools with virtual keyboard? for using a midi file record or play midi file back and forward to keyboard synth?
The keyboard has to connect to the computer somehow to pass information. Either through Midi In/Out or maybe your keyboard can connect via usb.
With a USB connection your keyboard will allow you to control a virtual instrument. Write and Capture Midi notes.
It may even allow you to have the keyboard play back midi, but you will need to connect Audio Cables to record (in ProTools) the sounds coming out the keyboard, if it has built in sounds.
did you experiment any latency when you did the process? I do. Can you help me about this?
Carlos Díaz try changing your buffer size (lower when recording, and higher when mixing), and using Delay Compensation in ProTools.
What setting did ya use? For example 48 khz and 24 bit and playbavk engine engine what buffer size is recomended.
I have been using 48/24 for the last couple of years.
Please can you explain how to successfully connect my usb keyboard to my Rubix 22 audio interface and/or with my TR8S, so I can record what I am playing on the keyboard, on my Mac Pro PC, via installed Soundflower or any other computer sound recording software.
ADEYINKA OLALEYE Hello. You should be able to just plug your USB Keyboard to your computer, open up some software with a Virtual Instrument and play.... (if you need software, most companies like AVID, Reaper, GarageBand, Audacity, offer a free version or trial version to demo the software). If you want to play sounds from the TR8S into the Rubic22 you need to connect the Audio Outputs from the TR8S into the Line Level inputs using balanced TRS Cables. Adjust the gain levels, and create a audio track in your software to hear what's being recorded through the interface. If you require editing of your performance on the TR8S, then recording the audio and midi (this is a separate track in the software that's created only to record the midi note information), at the same time is the best option. If you make a mistake or need to shift midi notes, you can do so in the software and have the midi information sent back to the TR8S (via midi cables in/out) without you having to replay the performance.
@@SOUNDINTHECITY Many thanks
@@SOUNDINTHECITY Thanks for your reply. It helped me to some extent but did fully achieve my outcome. So I thought I'll provide you you with more infor:
Please can you explain how to successfully connect my usb keyboard to my Rubix 22 audio interface and/or with my TR8S, plus my RC505 so I can record what I am playing on the keyboard (and the TR+RC), on my Mac Pro PC, via installed Soundflower or any other computer sound recording software (but I don't want to use DAW like garageband/logic etc, for my recording, my ideal recorder would be Soundflower.
See what I have done/achieved so far:
1. RC505 output connected into Ext-in on TR8S
2. TRS8 mix-out connected into an input on Rubix22
3. Keyboard connected with usb cable to Rubix22 (which enabled it to be a straight connection to the Mac PC with onboard Mainstage)
4. An Output from Rubix22 connected to external speaker
5. Another output from Rubix22 connected to the RC505 L-input (to allow recording also of ALL Outputs via the RC)
6. I set up the Aggregate Devices & Multiple Audio Interfaces accordingly on my Mac
7. Installed and setup Soundflower for recording
My problems are these:
1. With the above setup, normal straightforward inputs/sound output, into/out of all the devices through the external speaker ARE ALL OK and SATISFACTORY.
2. Recording of all instruments (RC+TR) outputs via Soundflower all ok and satisfactory EXCEPT the Keyboard output NOT PICKED UP/RECORDED by Soundflower.
3. Recordings with RC505 (via connection No 5 above) was feasible EXCEPT that the it was very low in gain (no matter the adjustments made), and worst of all, the KEYBOARD was almost totally INAUDIBLE.
Sorry for asking so much, but if I can achieve the above, it would ultimately be my ideal home rig/setup. It would make me a very happy man. Am open to your suggestions too.
Thanks for looking into it.
Does buffer setting in PT have any effect on virtual instrument play back latency or midi latency where the midi notes don’t record perfect in time? I’m speaking all about ITB.
Virtual instrument playback latency and artifacts happen for sure if you have a low buffer setting and not the processing power to back it up. So I think midi would be the same thing. A good work around is to bounce/freeze/commit tracks that have lots of plugins so you can record a part, then revert it back if those tracks still need to be worked on.
Running MIDI cables in series is only if the keyboard is the synthesizer right?
Kenji Shiroma If you only want to control a Virtual Instrument, you can just connect Midi Out from the keyboard to Midi In on the interface. If you require the Keyboard to play back midi notes from ProTools to capture the sounds that are “in the synth keyboard,” then you would want them in series and have an audio track to record the sound.
Do you absolutely need midi cables or can you do this by connecting the usb cable from synth to the computer?
The usb cable should be fine on it’s own to control a virtual instrument. The only reason you would want midi cables and audio cables connected from the synth to your audio interface: Write midi in your daw, and have the synth play that part back. Or you have midi and want to audition different sounds back on the synth
Hi. I have a USB MIDI keyboard controller and I cannot get the sound of the Grand Piano to play through so I can hear it when I press the keys on the MIDI keyboard. I can hear the Grand Piano when I use my mouse and click on the Grand Piano's keys directly on the virtual instrument pop up window, but no sound of the piano when I press the keys on my MIDI keyboard. I've spent hours trying to get sound:( Can you help? Thanks.
If you are working in ProTools enable Midi Thru. Let me know if that works.
I believe that was already set. I, eventually, got it to work, but I don't remember how since it was days ago. Thanks.
Glad to hear you got it up and running.
Darn! I wish you remembered. I have the same problem. My Xpand works, but not Mini Grand. My MIDI tracks grays out when I load it.
Figured it out. For some reason, you need to load Mini Grand on the second space on your inserts then drag it up to the first space with your mouse. I don’t know why that works, but it does. I’ll just leave this comment here in case others experience the same problem.
I can get the sound from my Korg through midi track but I could not record or print an audio track. There was no signal coming in my audio Audio track. What will be the main problem? Im using only one USB cable for signal though. Do I need a 5 pin 2 midi cable for signal in and out?
May Pekee for audio coming from the KORG you need to plug in a 1/4” connection into your audio interface.
@@SOUNDINTHECITY I just tried that but still no sound:-(. Ok I'll tell you my current set up. Im using a USB cable directly connected to my computer to send midi signal. The midi track out put is set to my Korg keyboard and I can see the signal and hear the sound. That part is good. Now the tricky part is how do I get the signal back to my protools?
I have connected an audio out put from my keyboard to the audio interface. I play my midi track and tried to record but no signal in audio track yet. What input should be in audio track? I don't know why I did not get any signal from the audio track....
May Pekee try (option+shift+K), or press the “I” next to the record button to monitor your input. I would assume you are using the left channel from the KORG like in the video and plugging it into One of your inputs. In ProTools you should choose and Audio Track, récord enable it, and click the “I” button to monitor the source.
By the way, I have got mic/line input in my audio track...
Let me know if my last suggestion worked for you.
Hey there , May i ask you something?
How many midi ch can I use in Logic Pro x or pro tools from microkorg?
I’m sorry, I don’t understand the question. Once the mircokorg is connected it can control one dedicated instrument. Or you can continue to record one instrument at a time. I think ProTools can have like 512 total midi tracks.
SOUND IN THE CITY I need to know if I can record 16 chs midi onto Logic or protools
1-bass
2-lead
3- ensamble
Etc
Simultaneously
All sounds from Microkorg
To sequence various sound on Logic ( I use Logic Pro X)
You can only have one sound going out the microkorg at a time via midi. Meaning if you write the midi in ProTools or Logic and tell the daw to play it back via the Microkorg, only one sound can be played back at a time....
You could record the midi first and then record the actual audio for each track you mentioned. But sequencing the midi and having the microkorg play back all the sounds and switch them, isn’t going to happen because you have to move the actual dial on the microkorg, to change sounds.
SOUND IN THE CITY thanks a lot , I had this doubt because the Microkorg can use 16 Midi Ch so I thought “it must be a way to do that “
I thought about record the midi and then creates the audio , and so on
Indeed I do that , but it was an ok’d doubt
Thanks a lot
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what if im just using a usb to midi and i can't get no sound from the pluggin? what do i do?
Marvin B. Make sure the track is record enabled, and midi thru is enabled. Try pulling up like mini grand in pro tools and then click on the notes to see if you can hear them through your speakers.
What is the output set to in the midi track I can't see it? The audio track is not picking it up.
Romeo Singh on mine it’s set to Pro40 (Audio interface) Midi... your device name will be different. Just choose the where the midi output is sending the Midi Data.
For the audio portion, you need to setup a separate audio track and make sure you’ve connected some wires from the keyboard to the interface.
If you are only speaking on Midi with virtual instrument. Make sure you have midi thru enabled from the drop down... and also make sure your keyboard:midi controller is being recognized
What was the box you had showed last, the one labelled 'dbox' 'korg' and 'open'?
It's an Audio Snake, here is a video I made on it: czcams.com/video/XaSif8WRsko/video.html
SOUND IN THE CITY no this one with the knobs you were checking for a signal on, is it a necessity for this process?
Oh thats the Focusrite Pro 40 audio interface. This unit allows the signal (audio) to be captured from the Korg keyboard. It also has the Midi In/Out on the back to transfer the midi notes into ProTools (Daw/Software) and back out to the Korg. It is essential for recording the sounds from the Korg, and also capturing the midi notes.
SOUND IN THE CITY So i can use this by itself instead of adding an audio interface?
Rich 100 you can use the Korg Keyboard by itself. It doesn’t have speakers on the keyboard so you need to use headphones or connect some speakers.
hi, i do everything as guided in the video but there is no sound. Pro tools recognizes my synth but i cannot make the vst plugin sound through my synth
Make sure the VST plug-in is on a “instrument track” in ProTools with an assigned output (usually output 1-2) then place the VST as an insert. Arm the track to record and monitor the input. Make sure MIDI Thru is enabled.
@@SOUNDINTHECITY yes i´ve done all that, after trying a few different things, now i can play my synth through midi but suddenly it stops, so i can only play like for 10 secs, and i don´t know what is that about
@@guerosensible is your synth connected via USB or via midi cables?
(If it’s usb, make sure it’s getting enough power from the computer, or usb hub)
All I want to do is control my vst's with my old Roland D50 because it has more keys than my minilab. I thought all I needed was to run the midi cables and adjust some channels or something
Trying changing the MIDI MODE on that Roland D50 to “mode 3”
In ProTools you should see the device name listed by audio interface name, or midi device.
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Shyam Joseph you would set it up the same way using Midi Cables into your Audio interface. Ensure you have Midi Thru enabled like in the video. Any other issues, let me know.
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I assume it would work as it as midi and audio capabilities... but I’m not 100% sure. But if you call my buddy Jason Koons at Sweetwater.com he can let you know.
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Great Video but it doesnt give any info on syncing the timing, Im wanting to let my software (protools) control my keyboard (triton pro x), I know how to make it work with logic Pro x but pro tools is killing me. Im sure its something very easy Im not doing I have to learn this,
wes jenkins watch the video again and connect your Triton Pro X using Midi In & Midi Out from the Keyboard and Audio Cables from the back of the Keyboard to your Audio Interface. You will need to create two tracks. An instrument track which will play the midi to the keyboard and a Audio Track which will capture the audio coming from the Triton Keyboard into ProTools. Both tracks must be record enabled to hear what you are playing. Ensure the midi is set to send/receive to the Triton and not a default device/setting.
@@SOUNDINTHECITY Thanks for you attempts to assist me I really appreciate the effort and I admire your knowledge of the business but unfortunately it still isnt working, Im trying to press record on Pro Tools and it control my Triton so the recording will be synced. I created an midi and audio track on PT and I put my setting on my keyboard to Ext controller, I works everyday on logic Pro, This is whats hindering me from using Pro Tools. Killin me! I have a studio and cant run it. I feel Like a dumb a**
wes jenkins did you check that "Midi Thru" is enabled in ProTools?
@@SOUNDINTHECITY Yes sir I did, I almost want to send you money thru cash app or Zelle for your time, and then ask to video chat with you through Duo, or something. I have everything you have gone over and I'm having No success, Im getting Sound signals because it displays when I press a key and It records but it doesnt control the Triton, I cant start the recording via Pro Tools which wont launh the Triton so its not synced. Tell me how much youll charge
I don’t have midi thru in my options
Make sure your midi device is being recognized by your computer first, and then by protools.
I can't believe how unuserfriendly is pro tools, its 2019 and still there is software like this???
Психолог Николай Лу what issues are you having with ProTools? Maybe I can help you out. Let me know.
@@SOUNDINTHECITY that would be amazing because i literally spent 2 days trying to get it to work. Right now i'm stuck at this: 1) Created instrument track, it recognizes my midi-keyboard (keystation mk3) even though there is a slight delay when i press the key on midi and the sound (issue 1), 2) Created Audio track with insert a-e Xpand and linked it to Instrument track output (i.e. instrument track output to this Audio track). 3) Press key on my midi-keyboard and it shows on Audio track volume bar but does not make any sound (issue 2). I googled the life out of this, can't find anything useful except a billion problems people keep reporting with pro tools
@@SOUNDINTHECITY If there is a normal software that actually works i'm happy to completely scrap pro tools and forget about it forever, i'm just new to all this stuff
This video I made about midi and keyboards might help you. czcams.com/video/O7q1YRpMxPg/video.html
It just takes time to learn new software. Be patient and give yourself time.
Even i slowed down the speed for your video hahaha still i have dificulties to follow you i wish you made it a little bit slower .Don’t forget that we are dummy people.hhaha
You got this man. Just follow the steps: Midi Out from keyboard - to midi IN on audio interface. Then Midi Out from audio interface - to Midi in on Keyboard.
Make a new audio track in ProTools and assign the same inputs, where you connected the audio cables. (This récords the audio from the keyboard)
Then make a midi track to capture the midi notes you play. (This only records the midi notes you played)