I agree...However, being an umpire myself, I believe all of them should have thick skin....PERIOD. Coaches are geared to win and calls matter rather they are right or wrong. This was so minor and that ump doesn't need to call games if something that small bothers him. So the hell what if the coach doesn't like the call? Unless, he is belligerent. I'll give him that one short time. Then I will warn him. I have umpired for more than 17 years and I have only kicked out 7 coaches and that includes tournaments.
@@tawtam1 I'm also an umpire, not as long as you but I find that I have a thick skin. You want to argue judgement calls? Doesn't bother me. But there's no way I'm going to some guy sitting on a bucket 20 feet away complaining about inside and outside pitches. I'm shutting that down quickly
@@NSUMDFS First of all, if I am going to kick out a coach for questioning strikes and balls they will know that during the plate meeting. Most of that time when I have done that it was because there were some issues with other coaches in tournament play or the state play offs. I realize every ump is not the same. However, the umpire is in charge of the field and everyone knows that. You don't have to throw your weight around and have some understanding that coaches are going to fight for their players and team...as well they should. The biggest requirement I have is to be consistent then coaches don't have a reason to question your calls because you are calling it both ways. In this case we don't know what he said during the plate meeting. What I do know is that the coach didn't do enough to warrant him being ejected from the game. Lastly, there are other options that are not in the rule book but work. Telling the coach to get into the dugout and remain there. Next, tell the coach you are discussing it any longer.....I usually say....That's enough coach. Again, are these requirements? NO. However, I think they are good rules to follow. Why? This appears to be city, rec or tournament baseball because after ejecting the coach he didn't bother to right any information down in his book. I do know in varsity ball or college coaches can request the league that you no longer call their ball games and they will send other officials at least for a while to that schools games. The more you eject, the more that can happen and you can get called less and less for games. Which means less money in your pocket. I have heard worse from coaches and especially those that have good teams.
The good thing about CIF baseball is that coaches can only get ejected a certain amount of times before they’re pretty much banned from coaching at whatever level they were at
Still technically my rookie year since Covid ended last year’s baseball season early but yeah I get tired of this crap every game. There’s a specific coach from a specific school North East of our town who cries about every out or strike called on his team
I don't think anything pisses me off more as an umpire than coaches who argue balls and strikes from the dugout. Do they really think they have a better view 70-90 feet away than I do from behind the plate? Especially when they use the whole "it looked good from here" line. Pathetic.
think more to support there players than anything else John has noting to do with umpire calls. my u14 game today i had pitcher going over the stirke zone i miss i think one i called ball which should of been strike oh well
I knew an umpire that went into the stands and said "play ball!" After a fan was complaining about balls and strikes. When asked what he was doing he said, "seems you have a better view from here so I'll call the game from the stands."
I once laterally shifted my entire strike zone over a full foot just to prove to a coach that he could not see the zone from the dugout. He had no clue.
I've been umpiring a long time, everything from Little League (all levels including Big League) to high school to American Legion, and a little college. Oh, and the dreaded men's "recreational" leagues, which are anything but recreational. There are some things you do and some things you don't do and there's a lot wrong with the game management in this video. 1. If this coach is out there about balls and strikes (which is what it looks like), that discussion went on far too long. You can't argue balls and strikes - if the coach goes there, maybe let him say a few words, then give him a stop sign, tell him "That's enough" and walk away. You don't need to tell him that he can't argue balls and strikes, he knows that. If he continues (runs through the stop sign), tell him "I said that's enough" and dump him if he continues or just dump him depending on how things go. If it's high school, you now have to give the coach a "written warning" and restrict him to the dugout before he gets tossed unless his actions are egregiously unsportsmanlike. That's really stupid because most coaches generally run through the warning and bench restriction and get tossed anyway. 2. Since the umpire allowed the coach to have such a long discussion, don't toss him once he turns and starts to go back to the dugout unless he says something really stupid, personal about you, or profane (this looks like high school or high school age, not MLB, so that is an ejectable offense). Generally, if you toss a coach once he turns his back and starts to walk away, you look like the aggressor instead of the coach. 3. Once you toss him, turn and walk away - don't engage him in more discussion. Nothing good is going to come from that. If he wants to continue, make him walk after you. That makes him look like the aggressor and there's no reason to continue any discussion with the now ejected coach. Your partner should come in and get the coach off of you if he continues to argue. Also, don't do a second ejection mechanic. You've already tossed him - don't toss him again. 4. Don't call the police unless you've been threatened or there is a genuine fear for your safety or someone else's safety. I usually give a coach 60 seconds to get off the field or at least start to get off the field. If he refuses to leave, that's grounds for a forfeit but not a reason to call the police. I won't comment on the backwards hat...
What can you expect from an umpire that doesn't know what he's doing to begin with. He called time out when the ball was still in play and you expect him to know how to handle a manager/coach?
mmmm ok - good detailed and educational summary about umpiring ... cheers .... but, the criticism of this situation is a bit broad and without justification I'd say... No. 1 - yep agree No. 2 - why criticise him when in fact the situation could very easily, and more than likely than not, have fallen into the only reason you gave for actually throwing a coach as he walks away. No. 3 - valid from the video - even as a non-umpire I was thinking - dude just turn and don't engage him ... No. 4 - could very well be the reason he asked someone to call the cops - you really have not possible way of saying this did or didn't happen Again, great summary of umpire management, my friend, but criticising and essentially stating that your "colleague" was in the wrong for 1/2 of your points, without any evidence to support this is unfair .... and IMO at least, only contributes to the US' appalling culture wrt abusing part time or volunteer umpires in sport ...
@@aussiesurfer805 Most of this falls on the umpire for practicing poor game management. Whether it's his fault or his association's fault for not providing sufficient training, the umpire shares responsibility for not properly managing this situation. Nothing can be done about this situation, but perhaps, newer less experience umpires can learn for this umpire's mistakes. We learn from our own mistakes and the mistakes of others. No. 2 - the umpire should have tossed the coach sooner. You never allow an argument or "discussion" to go on that long. No. 3 - poor game management. Never engage once you toss the coach. At that point, it's your partners job to get the coach off your back. No. 4 - point taken; however, there is little in the video to support an actual physical threat. When that happens, good game management dictates you clear the field and vacate the area, and potentially forfeit the game to the other team. Physical threats demand swift and positive action to protect everyone in the area - not just a simple call to the local police. I have been a volunteer and am a part time umpire. I'll blame fans, coach, players, and parents for 80% of the problems we encounter on the field. The other 20% is on us either through poor game management, poor judgment, lack of knowledge of the rules and their interpretation, or just a crappy attitude. While we can't necessarily fix the 80%, we can fix the 20%. Blindly supporting a fellow umpire who failed to practice good game management does nothing to fix the 20%. This entire incident points to a lack of training on the part of the umpire's association. I've been doing this for 52 years. I stick by what I wrote.
@@billbell2311 You really do make some excellent points there Bill… and have helped educate me in the game … so combined with re-reading your original post and respecting your experience, I whole heartedly and 100% concede …🥺. 👍 I also apologise for what i realise now was my misinterpretation of your main gripe in point 2. The bit I focussed on, being about tossing someone as they’re walking away, was not the main point at all , but just provided as a little bit of bonus information for those who have been playing along at home 😜… I completely ignored your main reason for No. 2, which is most definitely valid and clear as crystal from the video Thanks again for your efforts and time to explain and share your knowledge with others and me - I’m thinking the game down here in Australia could do with some people such as yourself… 👍 I’ve only been involved in coaching baseball for a couple of years, but I’m actually a very experienced basketball coach and former player.. I’ve coached basketball at an elite State and national level for 20+ years, after playing at a state rep level for a ling time too…. So, I initially thought the change to baseball, especially at the grass roots level I’m currently involved with, would be easy for me to do .. i would just need some good assistants to help with the more technical playing and strategy aspects … Crikey, was I wrong !! The whole approach to coaching, players, game day, and especially umpires is so very different and unique in baseball - I thought those bits would be the easy ones … nope - cultural shock 😳.. .. Im slowly getting there - I think , with these videos and discussions helping me as well.. I’m on a mission though, as I have two teenage daughters and I’m now part of a small core group down here in Western Australia; working very hard to develop the game of baseball for girls (of all abilities).. . It’s a relatively new sport here, for the girls at least… it’s well established with a national professional league for men … one of my girls is absolutely crazy for baseball, and both of them actively press for equality and want to show that girls can do everything boys can , and that they should be given similar opportunities that the boys get given to just play and develop in their chosen sport … personally, I blame their mother for all this … 😜 but they’ve won me over and I’m onboard having completely jumped over from coaching young men in basketball .. So the more I learn about baseball from people such as you, the more confident in the game I feel, the more i enjoy it and the more I can fight for the cause (i’ve actually become quite the feminist myself now Bill 😁 … I blame the wife for that too ) …
This looks like high school level, maybe winter ball because of the coaches uniforms (shorts) . Coaches who coach high school winter ball are not high school coachers they just volunteer and come from the lower levels of baseball. Some umpires come from the lower levels and do winter ball to get some experience in the high school level. So I think we have here are two people one is learning how to coach high school level and one how to umpire high school level.
hold on a minute, let me get this straight .... It cracks you up that coaches don't actually physically fight umpires ?? wow !!! Like, holly sh1t dude, where did you play your baseball - a south American prison or something ? You sure are one tough bad mf hombre dude ... congrats
@Mark Warner and that mentality is the reason there is a NATIONAL SHORTAGE of sports officials. Let me know when you sit for the umpire test and I will come critique your first game behind the plate.
First: Don't call TIME until the players have made it to the next base. You are taking the chance for the runners to steal if they want. Second: Please don't wear your hat backwards. Get a 4 seam plate hat. Third: Great call on tossing the coach, Do Not let them argue Balls and Strikes - we will be doing this every pitch!
You can't see inside / outside in the video so I can only assume that the pitch was not over the plate. Regardless, the strike zone is umpire's judgment on each pitch. Coach deserved to get the toss. Kudo's to the umpire for allowing the coach a little rope when he could have tossed him right away. As for the parent saying call the police. That was a bit knee jerk. Wasn't anywhere near the level of needing police involvement.
CV1989Colt Always remember..a coach sitting on his brains on a bucket next to the dugout can only see a pitch up or down. When he questions location, I always tell him the pitch was either outside or inside. The aholes hate that!!!...lol!!
A thing I see is he comes up and with his right arm points down toward first. That can get you in trouble But You don’t know what the coach said or whatever was leading up to it.
A) start by turning his hat around. Backwards looks like an idiot who’s never umpired before. Coaches see that and they think they’re dealing with a novice and so they can get away with more. B) to piggyback the coach did get away with more. You lose credibility with that look. As soon as he leaves the dugout and comes to ask about the pitch you tell him once to go back if he doesn’t he’s gone. That simple.
You don't know what the coach said. Saying some magic words while walking away is the oldest trick in the coaching book. You can't let it go just because he was facing the other way.
Yup, hold up your hand like a “stop” signal and TELL him “coach you aren’t arguing balls and strikes are you?” He’s got 2 choices, say”No” and turn around or say no and at the first mention of “strike zone” or “pitch” he’s gone. Also, you can’t tell me a coach 30, 40, 50 feet away has a better view than any umpire, even standing too deep from the catcher, come on coach.
@@michaelhogg324 oh ok, didnt know that was the fucking law. Get over it loser who cares how he wears his hat. Im sure its more comfortable for him that way.
Good comments (especially Bill Bell). Another interesting note... the umpire called time for the catcher before the runner from third crossed home plate and the batter reached first. A small thing, but it just didn't seem like he was dialed in during this video.
The young gun ump has a few things to learn, 1) Don't call time after a walk until ALL runners have advanced. Here he called time before the runner from third had crossed the plate and probably before the BR reached first. 2) After you toss a coach, don't continue to engage him. Lock your arms and let him make a fool of himself. Don't keep talking, especially after he is in the dugout.
Subangelis gaming please stop typing while you're ahead. At the very least go watch a video of other umpires who wear a mask with their hat on straight.
First of all , no respect for any umpire who wears his hat on backwards, I’ve called for 26 yrs from little league to high school & college. You can ask about pitches , location ,as long as it’s respectful but when you tell an umpire he wrong about balls & strikes it’s known as a judgement call & grounds for ejection
baseball empires as a whole are the worst out of all sports, scientifically. their judgement calls are unsound. MLB home plate umpires make incorrect calls at least 20% of the time - one in every five calls. those are the best in the biz, apparently. Baseball umpires, they should be exterminated, like literally lined up against a wall and put out of their misery. They obviously have mental defects that we need to eugenically cull.
@@daryljones3268 you only get what your league/association gives you, this is not a short billed hat and cant fit under the mask, he has to wear it backwards. Dont go after the guy, if you care that much, send a letter to the org...
I don't know the full context, but if he was out arguing that pitch then he's blind. I guess the ump popped up like he was going to call strike, then gestured to the base with his right hand (that's a no no -- left hand is information, right hand is strike and out), so maybe the coach thought he called it a strike. Weak ejection, though. Coach could have at least gone full Wally Backman.
Hat backwards, calls time before all runners have reached their bases on the bases loaded walk. For anyone who knows anything about umpiring, the alarm bells should have gone off right there. Umpire caps come in four different bill sizes: 2 stitch, 4 stitch, 6 stitch, and 8 stitch. The stitch refers to the number of stitch lines that can be put on the different lengths of the bill. The 2 stitch is sometimes called a "beanie"; the 8 stitch is a full size bill like the players wear. I started off using the 4 stitch and ended by using an 8 stitch the last 3 or 4 years before my knees gave out. The fact that this umpire is wearing his cap backwards tells me he really has no interest in umpiring other than the money. I spent many a day practicing how to remove my mask without knocking my cap off and many more days going over the rules. An umpire's appearance goes a long way towards telling you how much he cares about his craft.
baseball empires as a whole are the worst out of all sports, scientifically. their judgement calls are unsound. MLB home plate umpires make incorrect calls at least 20% of the time - one in every five calls. those are the best in the biz, apparently. Baseball umpires, they should be exterminated, like literally lined up against a wall and put out of their misery. They obviously have mental defects that we need to eugenically cull.
Step 1... Stop the guy from coming out of the dugout to argue balls and strikes or arguing balls and strikes from the dugout. Step 2... Eject him immediately once you are sure he isn't coming out for a legitimate reason. The umpire is obviously inexperienced because he is wearing his hat backwards and possibly even a volunteer because organized umpiring organizations train their people to wear the uniform properly and have a good appearance on the field.
I do have to ask why is the Plate Umpire wearing his hat backwards for and also how does the Coach know where the pitch was when he was over 100 ft away?
Everything was fine by the ump, but if you're going to toss him, don't wait until he's walking away from you. Thats a big no no. Toss him while hes facing you or cursing at you, but if hes walking away....tossing him is frowned upon in the umpire community. That said, he was remarkably patient up to that point with the coach.
No everything was not fine by the ump. A) start by turning his hat around. Backwards looks like an idiot who’s never umpired before. Coaches see that and they think you’ve a novice and so they can get away with more. B) to piggyback the coach did get away with more. You lose credibility with that look. As soon as he leaves the dugout and comes to ask about the pitch you tell him once to go back if he doesn’t he’s gone. That simple.
@@brandonmilligan7706 were both right. It’s behavioral in the sense that when you show up looking like this guy did, backwards hat, pants, jacket etc, you’re not going to be taken seriously. That leads to coaches and players who are naturally competitive and trying to win trying to things more with you than they would a guy dressed properly and looking the part cause they know they’ll have less rope.
Based on the size of the batter it was a strike IF it was over the plate and again based on the video there’s no way to know. As for the rest of it, it went on too long…
Alan Deans the signals are so other umpires on the field, fans, players and other coaches know what you are doing. They are not all able to the hear call(s).
Think of any sport. Officials have hand signals to let the roaring crowd what the call is. Especially when the speakers don’t work. American football has a hand signal for every penalty, a good field goal attempt and when they score. In ice hockey the officials have certain hand signals for every penalty.
the guy saying call the police outta everyone should shut up its a youth baseball game. that would be more interruptive than someone getting tossed out
The pitch WAS up and in a bit... I would not call it a strike.... STILL... 2 things... The Umpire does not present a professional appearance and wearing the cap backwards is a no no… also his positioning behind the catcher is just plain laziness. Also... He (in my opinion) indulged the coach far to long in what was a discussion over the strike zone. Even coaches that seem calm can throw a parting shot that cannot be tolerated!
If it was over the plate it was a strike if we're gonna use the MLB rules for what is the definition of the strike zone. But most umpires and coaches want the belt to low part of the knees strike zone right up until they start losing. Then they want from arm pit to knees... But in this case it's still the umpires judgment an I give that umpire some props for allowing the coach to gripe, I would have told that coach to go sit down right away, because there is no arguing balls and strikes.
Every LL I’ve seen has huge strike zones because no one wants to watch 100 walk games. Plus walking promotes no swinging. A big strike zone tells the kids to be aggressive and they get a lot more out of swinging than looking for walks
you know between bad coaches in kids leagues basically anything under 17 who wanna win no matter what and teach their kids and encourage the kids to do dumb crap and then act in a way that the kids think it’s appropriate when it’s not and then of course their parents who are just as bad pulled out the game and in their attitudess ,kids sports has become absolute garbage. Parents and their coaches should be barred if they get ejected from participating in any kids sports at all the sports are about the kids not the parents so if you can’t watch your kid play that’s tough you are an idiot and you lost that privilege And kids are going to learn nothing from you anyway. This is also why I don’t like officials that are under 18 too many bad adults
Yeah no. I had a coach get ejected from every game he coached. It was the most annoying part of playing for him. And he always picked me up for his team. He wasn’t eligible for half our games and he never saw the bottom half the first inning. It’s annoying to have to stand around and watch as your coach makes an ass out of himself and distracts for the game that you just spent 1 hour getting ready for and now you have to mentally and physically prepare again
@@alanhess9306 I asked 4 umpires this and only one threw me out. 3 for 3 on dusting off the ball in front of the umpire and letting them know you cleaned it so they can see it
Is is me, or does the ump have his indicator in his right hand? He seems to look at it after using the same hand to motion the batter to 1st base. If so both are wrong.
you let that coach leave the dugout in the first place umpire, partial fail.. also never put you hat on backwards. and both coaches should have been gone with that attitude be more forceful
Now when I was a ump I gave more leeway if they came out and talked like that. I didnt like the chirping from the dugout. Let them voice their concerns and carry on. I preferred if it was handled in between innings but just be respectful. I always told both coaches that before the game. Never had to toss a coach.
An umpire can not call a forfeit because a ejected manager/coach won't leave. Most of the time the ejected person will leave after a ejection but not in ten seconds. To get the person to leave it;s best to have your partner walk the person to the dugout.
What is NHS baseball? Just to let you know high school ( N F H S ) in any state does not have such a rule, matter of fact there is not such rule in any rule book at any level so my guess this is a league rule. Leagues can add rules like the 60 sec rule time limit for an ejected person to leave but it's not stated in the rule book.
this umpire need to learn couple things 1. do not wear hat backwords there hats that fit to the size you need 2. as ben and sure many say you do not call time till the play ends. 3. do not look towards the fans when coach is speaking to you. 4. i agree with ben once coach is ejected move on.
I just want to add...The only way that coach should be allowed to gripe is if the umpire has either been making or not making that call the entire game and then he changes it in the last inning... But it's still umpires judgment and that's why he's there.
if coach has a problem with a call that is non judgement he can wait and call time and the umpire and him can meet half way, i was taught to meet coach half way and you properly take your sun glasses off. not all of us umpire will do that i will tend to do it, i also tend to take my hat off in certin buldings either to respect it or show respect when i talk to someone
Doesn’t matter. You can’t tell how inside or outside the pitch is from his location. So the “the umpire has been calli it.” There’s no way to know if the umpire has called that pitch a strike before
Yes. Umpires are told that an ejected coach, manager, player, fan. In little league has a 1 min time period to remove themselves. Failure to do so gets a 911 call. The other option is to forfeit the game for the offending team this option isn’t the best as you punish a bunch of kids of the actions of a coach 99% of the time
"Please stop now...please stop now." "Guess what? You're gone too." Seems to me that coach got a lot of leeway from the umpire. Coming out of the dugout to argue balls and strikes...even respectfully...is supposed to be an automatic ejection. I used to umpire, and my exit line in a situation like this was "If you're coming out to argue a ball/strike call, just keep walking, 'cause you're out of the game." An umpire has to have zero tolerance for ball-strike arguments. Otherwise, it will lead to coaches critiquing every pitch.
Okay so it was a ball, catcher turns and says can I have time. Why in the heck would you award time when your guy on third hasn't even reached home yet? Also turn your cap around it looks dumb. And you should have tossed the coach as soon as he started arguing where that ball was.
@@johnnybravo-ir3ev an Umpire should never wear his cap backwards when he's wearing a mask. Calling time during a walk or ball four indicates dead ball. What if the guy who just got walked on Ball 4, decides to run all the way to second base? umpire called time now he has to go back to First
The umpire is obviously an unpaid volunteer with no training otherwise he wouldn't have called timeout while the ball was still in play and an umpire NEVER wears his hat backwards
@@labradormom8749 You're a disgrace to the game of baseball go back to doing T-Ball ROOKIE!!! Calling time out when the ball is still in Play??? You should never be allowed near a baseball field you're the kind of wanna be that gives umpires a bad name. Your nothing but a piece of shit
You can argue every thing in baseball except two things...Balls and Strikes. If you even have a conversation you will be tossed!!! Point blank the biggest un-written rule in baseball at any level!!!
You call the police if an ejected coach refuses to leave the field. Literally every umpire I have ever talked to has said it. I’ve witnessed parents and coaches being escorted out by league officials and a couple times by police.
You can’t argue balls and strikes, coach
"Coach we're not going to argue balls and strikes, go back to the dugout. No? Okay, bye."
love the "please stop know" punk coach
That was high, typical Sunday afternoon coach
I can understand doing something dumb because you’re heated but calmly walking up and then hyping yourself up to do something dumb is insanity
agreed
You don't argue balls and strikes, period.
I agree...However, being an umpire myself, I believe all of them should have thick skin....PERIOD. Coaches are geared to win and calls matter rather they are right or wrong. This was so minor and that ump doesn't need to call games if something that small bothers him. So the hell what if the coach doesn't like the call? Unless, he is belligerent. I'll give him that one short time. Then I will warn him. I have umpired for more than 17 years and I have only kicked out 7 coaches and that includes tournaments.
@@tawtam1 I'm also an umpire, not as long as you but I find that I have a thick skin. You want to argue judgement calls? Doesn't bother me. But there's no way I'm going to some guy sitting on a bucket 20 feet away complaining about inside and outside pitches. I'm shutting that down quickly
@@NSUMDFS First of all, if I am going to kick out a coach for questioning strikes and balls they will know that during the plate meeting. Most of that time when I have done that it was because there were some issues with other coaches in tournament play or the state play offs. I realize every ump is not the same. However, the umpire is in charge of the field and everyone knows that. You don't have to throw your weight around and have some understanding that coaches are going to fight for their players and team...as well they should. The biggest requirement I have is to be consistent then coaches don't have a reason to question your calls because you are calling it both ways. In this case we don't know what he said during the plate meeting. What I do know is that the coach didn't do enough to warrant him being ejected from the game. Lastly, there are other options that are not in the rule book but work. Telling the coach to get into the dugout and remain there. Next, tell the coach you are discussing it any longer.....I usually say....That's enough coach. Again, are these requirements? NO. However, I think they are good rules to follow. Why? This appears to be city, rec or tournament baseball because after ejecting the coach he didn't bother to right any information down in his book. I do know in varsity ball or college coaches can request the league that you no longer call their ball games and they will send other officials at least for a while to that schools games. The more you eject, the more that can happen and you can get called less and less for games. Which means less money in your pocket. I have heard worse from coaches and especially those that have good teams.
The Ark how stupid. If you let a coach come out and argue balls and strikes then your an idiot
I think every coach and umpire should be mic'd up for every game. I guarantee this would stop.
Don’t let the coach come out to discuss balls and strikes.
when the asst. coach starts yelling, I'd have run him too
You are abdolutely correct. Both of those pathetic asshats should've been tossed.
The good thing about CIF baseball is that coaches can only get ejected a certain amount of times before they’re pretty much banned from coaching at whatever level they were at
Would ya
Coach needs to get back to his softball beer league where he is probably a .125 hitter.
He may be a lefty
Nope absolutely not. Umps need to get het put in check sometimes
@@joshmurchison8237 nope not with that attitude
No Shit! He probably argues with his girlfriend or wife about which position to be in while having intercourse?
@@_Boz except GF=his pet sheep
Gee, I wonder why there is a shortage of umps these days. Maybe we get tired of all the arguing on every call.
Still technically my rookie year since Covid ended last year’s baseball season early but yeah I get tired of this crap every game. There’s a specific coach from a specific school North East of our town who cries about every out or strike called on his team
I don't think anything pisses me off more as an umpire than coaches who argue balls and strikes from the dugout. Do they really think they have a better view 70-90 feet away than I do from behind the plate? Especially when they use the whole "it looked good from here" line. Pathetic.
think more to support there players than anything else John has noting to do with umpire calls. my u14 game today i had pitcher going over the stirke zone i miss i think one i called ball which should of been strike oh well
I knew an umpire that went into the stands and said "play ball!" After a fan was complaining about balls and strikes. When asked what he was doing he said, "seems you have a better view from here so I'll call the game from the stands."
That's straight G
I once laterally shifted my entire strike zone over a full foot just to prove to a coach that he could not see the zone from the dugout. He had no clue.
If you've seen 1 million pitches in your playing/coaching career from that perspective, you can tell what's a ball/strike.
Pitch looked high.....I like the fact that the Plate umpire gave rope.....right around 1:40 is when the game should’ve been forfeited
I've been umpiring a long time, everything from Little League (all levels including Big League) to high school to American Legion, and a little college. Oh, and the dreaded men's "recreational" leagues, which are anything but recreational. There are some things you do and some things you don't do and there's a lot wrong with the game management in this video.
1. If this coach is out there about balls and strikes (which is what it looks like), that discussion went on far too long. You can't argue balls and strikes - if the coach goes there, maybe let him say a few words, then give him a stop sign, tell him "That's enough" and walk away. You don't need to tell him that he can't argue balls and strikes, he knows that. If he continues (runs through the stop sign), tell him "I said that's enough" and dump him if he continues or just dump him depending on how things go. If it's high school, you now have to give the coach a "written warning" and restrict him to the dugout before he gets tossed unless his actions are egregiously unsportsmanlike. That's really stupid because most coaches generally run through the warning and bench restriction and get tossed anyway.
2. Since the umpire allowed the coach to have such a long discussion, don't toss him once he turns and starts to go back to the dugout unless he says something really stupid, personal about you, or profane (this looks like high school or high school age, not MLB, so that is an ejectable offense). Generally, if you toss a coach once he turns his back and starts to walk away, you look like the aggressor instead of the coach.
3. Once you toss him, turn and walk away - don't engage him in more discussion. Nothing good is going to come from that. If he wants to continue, make him walk after you. That makes him look like the aggressor and there's no reason to continue any discussion with the now ejected coach. Your partner should come in and get the coach off of you if he continues to argue. Also, don't do a second ejection mechanic. You've already tossed him - don't toss him again.
4. Don't call the police unless you've been threatened or there is a genuine fear for your safety or someone else's safety. I usually give a coach 60 seconds to get off the field or at least start to get off the field. If he refuses to leave, that's grounds for a forfeit but not a reason to call the police.
I won't comment on the backwards hat...
This is an awesome explanation of kind of the unwritten rules of umping. Thank you!
What can you expect from an umpire that doesn't know what he's doing to begin with. He called time out when the ball was still in play and you expect him to know how to handle a manager/coach?
mmmm ok - good detailed and educational summary about umpiring ... cheers .... but, the criticism of this situation is a bit broad and without justification I'd say...
No. 1 - yep agree
No. 2 - why criticise him when in fact the situation could very easily, and more than likely than not, have fallen into the only reason you gave for actually throwing a coach as he walks away.
No. 3 - valid from the video - even as a non-umpire I was thinking - dude just turn and don't engage him ...
No. 4 - could very well be the reason he asked someone to call the cops - you really have not possible way of saying this did or didn't happen
Again, great summary of umpire management, my friend, but criticising and essentially stating that your "colleague" was in the wrong for 1/2 of your points, without any evidence to support this is unfair .... and IMO at least, only contributes to the US' appalling culture wrt abusing part time or volunteer umpires in sport ...
@@aussiesurfer805 Most of this falls on the umpire for practicing poor game management. Whether it's his fault or his association's fault for not providing sufficient training, the umpire shares responsibility for not properly managing this situation. Nothing can be done about this situation, but perhaps, newer less experience umpires can learn for this umpire's mistakes. We learn from our own mistakes and the mistakes of others.
No. 2 - the umpire should have tossed the coach sooner. You never allow an argument or "discussion" to go on that long.
No. 3 - poor game management. Never engage once you toss the coach. At that point, it's your partners job to get the coach off your back.
No. 4 - point taken; however, there is little in the video to support an actual physical threat. When that happens, good game management dictates you clear the field and vacate the area, and potentially forfeit the game to the other team. Physical threats demand swift and positive action to protect everyone in the area - not just a simple call to the local police.
I have been a volunteer and am a part time umpire. I'll blame fans, coach, players, and parents for 80% of the problems we encounter on the field. The other 20% is on us either through poor game management, poor judgment, lack of knowledge of the rules and their interpretation, or just a crappy attitude. While we can't necessarily fix the 80%, we can fix the 20%. Blindly supporting a fellow umpire who failed to practice good game management does nothing to fix the 20%. This entire incident points to a lack of training on the part of the umpire's association. I've been doing this for 52 years. I stick by what I wrote.
@@billbell2311 You really do make some excellent points there Bill… and have helped educate me in the game … so combined with re-reading your original post and respecting your experience, I whole heartedly and 100% concede …🥺. 👍
I also apologise for what i realise now was my misinterpretation of your main gripe in point 2. The bit I focussed on, being about tossing someone as they’re walking away, was not the main point at all , but just provided as a little bit of bonus information for those who have been playing along at home 😜… I completely ignored your main reason for No. 2, which is most definitely valid and clear as crystal from the video
Thanks again for your efforts and time to explain and share your knowledge with others and me - I’m thinking the game down here in Australia could do with some people such as yourself… 👍
I’ve only been involved in coaching baseball for a couple of years, but I’m actually a very experienced basketball coach and former player.. I’ve coached basketball at an elite State and national level for 20+ years, after playing at a state rep level for a ling time too…. So, I initially thought the change to baseball, especially at the grass roots level I’m currently involved with, would be easy for me to do .. i would just need some good assistants to help with the more technical playing and strategy aspects … Crikey, was I wrong !!
The whole approach to coaching, players, game day, and especially umpires is so very different and unique in baseball - I thought those bits would be the easy ones … nope - cultural shock 😳.. ..
Im slowly getting there - I think , with these videos and discussions helping me as well.. I’m on a mission though, as I have two teenage daughters and I’m now part of a small core group down here in Western Australia; working very hard to develop the game of baseball for girls (of all abilities).. .
It’s a relatively new sport here, for the girls at least… it’s well established with a national professional league for men …
one of my girls is absolutely crazy for baseball, and both of them actively press for equality and want to show that girls can do everything boys can , and that they should be given similar opportunities that the boys get given to just play and develop in their chosen sport … personally, I blame their mother for all this … 😜 but they’ve won me over and I’m onboard having completely jumped over from coaching young men in basketball ..
So the more I learn about baseball from people such as you, the more confident in the game I feel, the more i enjoy it and the more I can fight for the cause (i’ve actually become quite the feminist myself now Bill 😁 … I blame the wife for that too ) …
This looks like high school level, maybe winter ball because of the coaches uniforms (shorts) . Coaches who coach high school winter ball are not high school coachers they just volunteer and come from the lower levels of baseball. Some umpires come from the lower levels and do winter ball to get some experience in the high school level. So I think we have here are two people one is learning how to coach high school level and one how to umpire high school level.
It looks like a lot like cub ball (pre highschool) and highschool players. We had a league that mixed middle school and young freshman.
looked high and inside to me
Really catchers glove moves like 2 inches
Cracks me up how tough "coaches" are when bullying young people but wouldn't even challenge umpire to a fighting.
They hit us, we get to sue them and their school plus no Umpires will be sent to officiate for that school so they screw themselves out of jobs
hold on a minute, let me get this straight .... It cracks you up that coaches don't actually physically fight umpires ?? wow !!! Like, holly sh1t dude, where did you play your baseball - a south American prison or something ? You sure are one tough bad mf hombre dude ... congrats
That coach was given an extremely long leash if he was discussing balls and strikes.
@Mark Warner and that mentality is the reason there is a NATIONAL SHORTAGE of sports officials. Let me know when you sit for the umpire test and I will come critique your first game behind the plate.
Like I said sit for the rest I will fly the country to be at your first game! If you really think it’s that easy. Step up, balls in your court!
You can't argue balls and strikes and expect a change
First: Don't call TIME until the players have made it to the next base. You are taking the chance for the runners to steal if they want.
Second: Please don't wear your hat backwards. Get a 4 seam plate hat.
Third: Great call on tossing the coach, Do Not let them argue Balls and Strikes - we will be doing this every pitch!
Call the police? Ok Ken. Lmmfao
You can't see inside / outside in the video so I can only assume that the pitch was not over the plate. Regardless, the strike zone is umpire's judgment on each pitch. Coach deserved to get the toss. Kudo's to the umpire for allowing the coach a little rope when he could have tossed him right away. As for the parent saying call the police. That was a bit knee jerk. Wasn't anywhere near the level of needing police involvement.
CV1989Colt Always remember..a coach sitting on his brains on a bucket next to the dugout can only see a pitch up or down. When he questions location, I always tell him the pitch was either outside or inside. The aholes hate that!!!...lol!!
CV1989Colt this has nothing to do with where the pitch was. Dont make assumptions. You dont argue balls and strikes period!!!!
A thing I see is he comes up and with his right arm points down toward first. That can get you in trouble
But You don’t know what the coach said or whatever was leading up to it.
Someone from that side might’ve muttered a threat
A) start by turning his hat around. Backwards looks like an idiot who’s never umpired before. Coaches see that and they think they’re dealing with a novice and so they can get away with more. B) to piggyback the coach did get away with more. You lose credibility with that look. As soon as he leaves the dugout and comes to ask about the pitch you tell him once to go back if he doesn’t he’s gone. That simple.
Hat on backward and tossing a walking away coach = Poor and untrained umpiring without even hearing what was said.
You don't know what the coach said. Saying some magic words while walking away is the oldest trick in the coaching book. You can't let it go just because he was facing the other way.
@@bobhiggins3652 And it's the oldest trick in the coaching book to make the ump look wrong. Unless it's loud, let it go and save the bad optics.
That first pitch did look high to me
I have to say that he needs to be closer to the Catcher and also fix his Hat! That said he should have been dumped as soon as he came out to argue.
Yup, hold up your hand like a “stop” signal and TELL him “coach you aren’t arguing balls and strikes are you?” He’s got 2 choices, say”No” and turn around or say no and at the first mention of “strike zone” or “pitch” he’s gone. Also, you can’t tell me a coach 30, 40, 50 feet away has a better view than any umpire, even standing too deep from the catcher, come on coach.
Why are people bitchn about his hat? He is wearing a mask
@@johnnybravo-ir3ev Because the bill of his hat should be in front under the mask!
@@michaelhogg324 oh ok, didnt know that was the fucking law. Get over it loser who cares how he wears his hat. Im sure its more comfortable for him that way.
@@michaelhogg324 well shit, it is actually a rule to never have your hat backwards as an ump. I guess im the loser.
Set a precedence in the pregame with a warning for arguing balls & strikes.
Weekend warrior dad coaches think they are MLB coaches every Saturday morning and want to argue little league balls and strikes.......
Sorry, a coach can't argue balls and strikes unless he intends to get tossed.
Good comments (especially Bill Bell). Another interesting note... the umpire called time for the catcher before the runner from third crossed home plate and the batter reached first. A small thing, but it just didn't seem like he was dialed in during this video.
I'm sure you can do a superior job.
The young gun ump has a few things to learn, 1) Don't call time after a walk until ALL runners have advanced. Here he called time before the runner from third had crossed the plate and probably before the BR reached first.
2) After you toss a coach, don't continue to engage him. Lock your arms and let him make a fool of himself. Don't keep talking, especially after he is in the dugout.
He also needs to get his hat turned around and look the part.
Jer Frazier - You apparently don't understand how face masks work.
Subangelis gaming please stop typing while you're ahead. At the very least go watch a video of other umpires who wear a mask with their hat on straight.
I'm a patched umpire and that's bizarre......
Subangelis Gaming, Don't comment on things you know nothing about. Real umpires NEVER wear a hat backwards.
Look at me,I'm an idiot coach.
Why did the umpire call timeout when the base runner from third had yet to cross the plate?
First of all , no respect for any umpire who wears his hat on backwards, I’ve called for 26 yrs from little league to high school & college. You can ask about pitches , location ,as long as it’s respectful but when you tell an umpire he wrong about balls & strikes it’s known as a judgement call & grounds for ejection
baseball empires as a whole are the worst out of all sports, scientifically. their judgement calls are unsound. MLB home plate umpires make incorrect calls at least 20% of the time - one in every five calls. those are the best in the biz, apparently. Baseball umpires, they should be exterminated, like literally lined up against a wall and put out of their misery. They obviously have mental defects that we need to eugenically cull.
Snowflake
I’m assuming you are kidding cause the umpire obviously is wearing a face mask behind the plate, which is why his hat is backwards…. Lol
No you can buy hat that fit inside the mask , only rec league umpires do this it’s very unprofessional!
@@daryljones3268 you only get what your league/association gives you, this is not a short billed hat and cant fit under the mask, he has to wear it backwards. Dont go after the guy, if you care that much, send a letter to the org...
These coaches been watching to much MLB…I love to see these umps take no crap from the loudmouth players coaches fans and parents
I think he was asking the ump to throw him out , so he did
Never call time until all runners have advanced . . . and don't where your hat backwards
I don't know the full context, but if he was out arguing that pitch then he's blind. I guess the ump popped up like he was going to call strike, then gestured to the base with his right hand (that's a no no -- left hand is information, right hand is strike and out), so maybe the coach thought he called it a strike. Weak ejection, though. Coach could have at least gone full Wally Backman.
Looked high to me.
threw him out as he walked away? coward.
Hat backwards, calls time before all runners have reached their bases on the bases loaded walk. For anyone who knows anything about umpiring, the alarm bells should have gone off right there.
Umpire caps come in four different bill sizes: 2 stitch, 4 stitch, 6 stitch, and 8 stitch. The stitch refers to the number of stitch lines that can be put on the different lengths of the bill. The 2 stitch is sometimes called a "beanie"; the 8 stitch is a full size bill like the players wear. I started off using the 4 stitch and ended by using an 8 stitch the last 3 or 4 years before my knees gave out. The fact that this umpire is wearing his cap backwards tells me he really has no interest in umpiring other than the money. I spent many a day practicing how to remove my mask without knocking my cap off and many more days going over the rules. An umpire's appearance goes a long way towards telling you how much he cares about his craft.
baseball empires as a whole are the worst out of all sports, scientifically. their judgement calls are unsound. MLB home plate umpires make incorrect calls at least 20% of the time - one in every five calls. those are the best in the biz, apparently. Baseball umpires, they should be exterminated, like literally lined up against a wall and put out of their misery. They obviously have mental defects that we need to eugenically cull.
Step 1... Stop the guy from coming out of the dugout to argue balls and strikes or arguing balls and strikes from the dugout. Step 2... Eject him immediately once you are sure he isn't coming out for a legitimate reason. The umpire is obviously inexperienced because he is wearing his hat backwards and possibly even a volunteer because organized umpiring organizations train their people to wear the uniform properly and have a good appearance on the field.
Ball high
This volunteer thinks he is a real coach. What is there to argue about in a little league game.
I do have to ask why is the Plate Umpire wearing his hat backwards for and also how does the Coach know where the pitch was when he was over 100 ft away?
Nobody, not even the people sitting directly behind the plate, can see what ol’ Blue sees.
Everything was fine by the ump, but if you're going to toss him, don't wait until he's walking away from you. Thats a big no no. Toss him while hes facing you or cursing at you, but if hes walking away....tossing him is frowned upon in the umpire community. That said, he was remarkably patient up to that point with the coach.
No everything was not fine by the ump. A) start by turning his hat around. Backwards looks like an idiot who’s never umpired before. Coaches see that and they think you’ve a novice and so they can get away with more. B) to piggyback the coach did get away with more. You lose credibility with that look. As soon as he leaves the dugout and comes to ask about the pitch you tell him once to go back if he doesn’t he’s gone. That simple.
@@brady13001 Was speaking to the behavior, not the mechanics or uniform; both of which aren't very good.
@@brandonmilligan7706 the mechanics and behavior go together here unfortunately
@@brady13001 I think the game management element is more mechanical than behavioral in a lot of ways, but I can see (and agree with) your point.
@@brandonmilligan7706 were both right. It’s behavioral in the sense that when you show up looking like this guy did, backwards hat, pants, jacket etc, you’re not going to be taken seriously. That leads to coaches and players who are naturally competitive and trying to win trying to things more with you than they would a guy dressed properly and looking the part cause they know they’ll have less rope.
Young immature umpire. Call the cops for what?
Ump should not be wearing his hat backwards, and the coach should tuck his shirt in. They both look like a pair of unprofessional clowns.
Based on the size of the batter it was a strike IF it was over the plate and again based on the video there’s no way to know. As for the rest of it, it went on too long…
Looked like a strike to me. Some umpires like to keep a tight zone just to listen to people bitch and be the center of attention. That’s this guy
You can't see inside/outside from this camera angle, so you're assuming a lot with your comment. And we ALL know what happens when you assume.
From a 45 degree angle from the plate lol
Of course he's got a great arm.
He's the best athlete in the area. But you don't understand.
- That's Kelly Leak.
nice try..completely out of context tho. i say good day sir…🤠
I'm Scottish - WHY the 'gesture' of pointing 'Out/Off' ? Seen this in both professional and amateur games so why ?
Alan Deans the signals are so other umpires on the field, fans, players and other coaches know what you are doing. They are not all able to the hear call(s).
Tracy Mayes Thanks Tracy - appreciated !
Think of any sport. Officials have hand signals to let the roaring crowd what the call is. Especially when the speakers don’t work. American football has a hand signal for every penalty, a good field goal attempt and when they score. In ice hockey the officials have certain hand signals for every penalty.
the guy saying call the police outta everyone should shut up its a youth baseball game. that would be more interruptive than someone getting tossed out
The umpire said put the phone down and call the police.
@@jackjon7763 imagine going through comments from over a year ago in a four year old video you need some hobbies
@@jackjon7763 bruh you have 10 comments on this video alone lmfao get a fucking life
Ya that was a ball
High and inside!! What’s the argument coach? Why be a poor sport in front of young baseball players. Your a bad example to the game
Why don't the umpires sit in the dugout? Clearly, that's where the best view of home plate is.
I'm using sarcasm,, by the way.
Turn your hat around ump.
Howard Shaw you can't wear a mask with your hat forward idiot.
you can if you have a four seam cap that accommodates a mask.
Keith Chapman WTF is that what's going on in the video?? Nope! Fuck outa here!! Douschebag.....
@@jeffersonjive4871 The mask is Designed to be worn with a hat forward.. Like Keith Said 4 seam is a plate hat.. six seam is a field hat.
The pitch WAS up and in a bit... I would not call it a strike.... STILL... 2 things... The Umpire does not present a professional appearance and wearing the cap backwards is a no no… also his positioning behind the catcher is just plain laziness. Also... He (in my opinion) indulged the coach far to long in what was a discussion over the strike zone. Even coaches that seem calm can throw a parting shot that cannot be tolerated!
It looked high and inside if I'm the hitter I'm not offering
Does anyone know the name of the umpire in this video?? Tracy Mayes do you know?
Yes I know him
Is this WLW?? This just randomly came up on my recommended lol
Yes
After tossing the coach, why keep talking to him?
Is the game really for our kids or for underachieving coaches who never had enough talent to make the varsity squad?
If it was over the plate it was a strike if we're gonna use the MLB rules for what is the definition of the strike zone. But most umpires and coaches want the belt to low part of the knees strike zone right up until they start losing. Then they want from arm pit to knees... But in this case it's still the umpires judgment an I give that umpire some props for allowing the coach to gripe, I would have told that coach to go sit down right away, because there is no arguing balls and strikes.
Every LL I’ve seen has huge strike zones because no one wants to watch 100 walk games. Plus walking promotes no swinging. A big strike zone tells the kids to be aggressive and they get a lot more out of swinging than looking for walks
Somewhere around 1:40 the game should have been forfeited.
why people discuss things that are not discussible?
It was high
you know between bad coaches in kids leagues basically anything under 17 who wanna win no matter what and teach their kids and encourage the kids to do dumb crap and then act in a way that the kids think it’s appropriate when it’s not and then of course their parents who are just as bad pulled out the game and in their attitudess ,kids sports has become absolute garbage. Parents and their coaches should be barred if they get ejected from participating in any kids sports at all the sports are about the kids not the parents so if you can’t watch your kid play that’s tough you are an idiot and you lost that privilege And kids are going to learn nothing from you anyway. This is also why I don’t like officials that are under 18 too many bad adults
why was his pitch so slow
Call the police lol
Unlike the police , I must respect the man in blue
And that’s why you can’t legally carry a firearm or vote..
The umpire can't call time until the play is done which means all the runners have stopped at their upcoming base.
He can, and he did. If you meant to say he "shouldn't", then we agree. :^)
Just a good coach sticking up for his boys. Trust they love him for that.
Uh no. Call him for what he is. A big meatball.
Yeah no. I had a coach get ejected from every game he coached. It was the most annoying part of playing for him. And he always picked me up for his team. He wasn’t eligible for half our games and he never saw the bottom half the first inning. It’s annoying to have to stand around and watch as your coach makes an ass out of himself and distracts for the game that you just spent 1 hour getting ready for and now you have to mentally and physically prepare again
All you have to do is ask the umpire which of his strike zones he’s gonna use that inning
That is an excellent way to get yourself ejected.
@@alanhess9306 I asked 4 umpires this and only one threw me out. 3 for 3 on dusting off the ball in front of the umpire and letting them know you cleaned it so they can see it
@@kevinhendrix3536 Asking an umpire which zone he is using will get you ejected in every game I am umpiring.
@@alanhess9306 make sure you have your prescription glasses or contacts in. Maybe grow a thicker skin or learn how to do your job
@@kgkrjf2321 You are not going to attempt to show me up on the field. Who are you going to cry to when I eject your dumbass?
Is is me, or does the ump have his indicator in his right hand? He seems to look at it after using the same hand to motion the batter to 1st base. If so both are wrong.
you let that coach leave the dugout in the first place umpire, partial fail.. also never put you hat on backwards. and both coaches should have been gone with that attitude be more forceful
Now when I was a ump I gave more leeway if they came out and talked like that. I didnt like the chirping from the dugout. Let them voice their concerns and carry on. I preferred if it was handled in between innings but just be respectful. I always told both coaches that before the game. Never had to toss a coach.
'You're tossed coach and if you don't leave the field by the time I count ten the game is forfeit.' Simple as that.
I feel that is a bit juvenile way to go about it...He if loses his cool id go with "coach another pitch will not be thrown until you leave"
An umpire can not call a forfeit because a ejected manager/coach won't leave. Most of the time the ejected person will leave after a ejection but not in ten seconds. To get the person to leave it;s best to have your partner walk the person to the dugout.
jon leonard NHS rules state that in the event that a coach is ejected he/she has 60 seconds to leave or the game will be forfeited. Learn rules bud!
Well I'm not sure what N.H.S. baseball is ? Did you mean N.F.H.S?
What is NHS baseball? Just to let you know high school ( N F H S ) in any state does not have such a rule, matter of fact there is not such rule in any rule book at any level so my guess this is a league rule. Leagues can add rules like the 60 sec rule time limit for an ejected person to leave but it's not stated in the rule book.
this umpire need to learn couple things 1. do not wear hat backwords there hats that fit to the size you need 2. as ben and sure many say you do not call time till the play ends. 3. do not look towards the fans when coach is speaking to you. 4. i agree with ben once coach is ejected move on.
I just want to add...The only way that coach should be allowed to gripe is if the umpire has either been making or not making that call the entire game and then he changes it in the last inning... But it's still umpires judgment and that's why he's there.
if coach has a problem with a call that is non judgement he can wait and call time and the umpire and him can meet half way, i was taught to meet coach half way and you properly take your sun glasses off. not all of us umpire will do that i will tend to do it, i also tend to take my hat off in certin buldings either to respect it or show respect when i talk to someone
Doesn’t matter. You can’t tell how inside or outside the pitch is from his location. So the “the umpire has been calli it.” There’s no way to know if the umpire has called that pitch a strike before
Call the police????
Yes. Umpires are told that an ejected coach, manager, player, fan. In little league has a 1 min time period to remove themselves. Failure to do so gets a 911 call. The other option is to forfeit the game for the offending team this option isn’t the best as you punish a bunch of kids of the actions of a coach 99% of the time
@@jackjon7763 you call 911...bitches do that
"Please stop now...please stop now."
"Guess what? You're gone too."
Seems to me that coach got a lot of leeway from the umpire. Coming out of the dugout to argue balls and strikes...even respectfully...is supposed to be an automatic ejection. I used to umpire, and my exit line in a situation like this was "If you're coming out to argue a ball/strike call, just keep walking, 'cause you're out of the game."
An umpire has to have zero tolerance for ball-strike arguments. Otherwise, it will lead to coaches critiquing every pitch.
Okay so it was a ball, catcher turns and says can I have time. Why in the heck would you award time when your guy on third hasn't even reached home yet? Also turn your cap around it looks dumb. And you should have tossed the coach as soon as he started arguing where that ball was.
He has his hat backwards because he is wearing a mask.
Do you even know about baseball?
@@johnnybravo-ir3ev an Umpire should never wear his cap backwards when he's wearing a mask. Calling time during a walk or ball four indicates dead ball.
What if the guy who just got walked on Ball 4, decides to run all the way to second base? umpire called time now he has to go back to First
@@johnnybravo-ir3ev yes
@@mariocanales9274 lol. I never disagreed with the time call, why should he not wear it backwards? And just cause he looks dumb is not a good answer.
That was the lowest pitch I’ve ever seen
It was a strike all day also the umpire looks at the camera two times 😂🤣
The umpire is obviously an unpaid volunteer with no training otherwise he wouldn't have called timeout while the ball was still in play and an umpire NEVER wears his hat backwards
Listen, 1st off your wife loves it when I wear my hat backwards and 2nd do you umpire"blooper ball"??
@@labradormom8749 You're a disgrace to the game of baseball go back to doing T-Ball ROOKIE!!! Calling time out when the ball is still in Play??? You should never be allowed near a baseball field you're the kind of wanna be that gives umpires a bad name. Your nothing but a piece of shit
You can argue every thing in baseball except two things...Balls and Strikes. If you even have a conversation you will be tossed!!! Point blank the biggest un-written rule in baseball at any level!!!
@jomboy
Call the police are you kidding me. Wow snowflake don’t watch sports anymore
You call the police if an ejected coach refuses to leave the field. Literally every umpire I have ever talked to has said it. I’ve witnessed parents and coaches being escorted out by league officials and a couple times by police.