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Komentáře • 158

  • @brentzur
    @brentzur Před 2 lety +51

    FYI - The Akban instructor was a student of Doron Navon, who studied at the Kodokan, is a fourth dan, and was on Israel's Olympic Judo team in the seventies. It looks like they incorporate a lot of Judo in their training. Also, some of the criticisms about the Akban demonstration could easily be said about some of the Kata techniques of Judo. All that being said, I do believe competitive grapplers, and strikers (Judo, BJJ, Wrestling, Boxing, ect.) have a distinct advantage over practitioners of non-competitive arts and most pre-arranged techniques do not account for realistic grip and hand fighting :) I appreciate your content!

    • @VincentTamer
      @VincentTamer Před 2 lety +5

      Good clarification. I've trained nearly 6 years in static formed, traditional (non competitive) martial art. The body knowledge and techniques are pretty cool but I feel like I would be very hard pressed to pull one off in a real fight scenario, especially under pressure. I almost feel like I've wasted 6 years of my life.

    • @Dumplestiltzken
      @Dumplestiltzken Před 2 lety +7

      @@VincentTamer have you tried judo or jiu jitsu? I guarantee after a year or two of training you will be able to use many of your old techniques

    • @varanid9
      @varanid9 Před 2 lety +3

      @@VincentTamer Agreed. You've learned the basics, now train to apply them. If you can't make something work, before getting rid of it, do some deep research to make sure you were taught the proper application. This has always been the #1 problem with "traditional" arts, in my experience, and most students don't want to contradict their instructors so the ignorance continues.

    • @mowipad1618
      @mowipad1618 Před 2 lety +6

      Doron Navon is the first western shihan of Bujinkan, one of exclusive students of hatsumi sensei for years

    • @bassieenadriaan2728
      @bassieenadriaan2728 Před 2 lety +4

      @@VincentTamer u should crosstrain a competitive martial art like kickboxing to understand pressure it helped me with my ninjutsu

  • @bassieenadriaan2728
    @bassieenadriaan2728 Před 2 lety +29

    I train nunjutsu and have trained judo for 6 years. Fully agree with you. Thanks for being respectful to ninjutsu I agree that some techniques are unrealistic however it is very interesting to train.

    • @y_magaming9798
      @y_magaming9798 Před 2 lety +2

      What's a good ninjistu school. I've always wanted to learn. I do a little judo mainly i do kickboxing. And karate

    • @bassieenadriaan2728
      @bassieenadriaan2728 Před 2 lety

      @@y_magaming9798 you would like AKBAN ninjutsu that incorporates judo and kickboxing elements with essence of ninjutsu and traditional kata. If there is no akban school nearby you should go to bujinkan or to shin do but to make it effective u should watch AKBAN and try those principals.

    • @BURGAWMMA
      @BURGAWMMA Před 2 lety

      Akban is exponentially more realistic than most ninjutsu proponents. Unfortunately the vast majority of these characters are behaving more like George Dillman rather than taking the Arts seriously

    • @sirseigan
      @sirseigan Před 2 lety

      @@BURGAWMMA It really depends on the instructor and where you are in the world. But ofc, as always, there are some big egos out there... Looking up a good instructor can take time and effort, but it is part of the journey though...

  • @ricksterdrummer2170
    @ricksterdrummer2170 Před 2 lety +25

    Ganseki Nage is one of my favorite throws! I used it a lot in sparring when I transitioned from Ninjutsu to Judo, however my Judo instructor insisted I stopped doing it since it’s not a “real Judo technique”. Very effective nontheless.

    • @MacCionnaith
      @MacCionnaith Před 2 lety +2

      Big fan of it myself, but watching this seems a solid headbutt is all that's needed.

    • @ricksterdrummer2170
      @ricksterdrummer2170 Před 2 lety +2

      @@MacCionnaith Yes! Makes it easier to do the throw when they lean over.

    • @MacCionnaith
      @MacCionnaith Před 2 lety +1

      @@ricksterdrummer2170 lol👍

    • @alittlepuertoricanboy1993
      @alittlepuertoricanboy1993 Před 2 lety +3

      I should try a modified ganseki nage myself next time I'm at my jiujitsu class.
      I have some experience with Bujinkan, but I haven't really incorporated any of it into my BJJ.

  • @BURGAWMMA
    @BURGAWMMA Před 2 lety +5

    Ninjutsu is Judo with no rules and a focus on what is immediately expedient.
    After decades in Combat Sports I only have two black belts one in Judo and one in Taijutsu and it's pretty evident that Judo as a martial art is practically Taijitsu... they're nearly identical sisters

  • @Thelastronin357
    @Thelastronin357 Před 2 lety +21

    I will say as a practitioner of a lot of grappling arts, including judo Bjj and Kudo , holding brown belts in all 3 styles, in Kudo we do strike while grip fighting and it changes the kumi kata and how you grip fight and throw.

    • @fenkers3249
      @fenkers3249 Před 2 lety +6

      Yes, i am a purple belt in judo and train in bujinkan. In my opinion i think the technics work.

    • @lsporter88
      @lsporter88 Před 2 lety +7

      Yes, the inclusion of strikes does greatly change things and is more useful for actual combat. Great point.

  • @gajorg69
    @gajorg69 Před 2 lety +8

    As someone who trains Jujutsu and Judo I really appreciate videos like this. Good job Chadi. Any others like this with maybe Hapkido, Jujutsu, etc . . . would be really cool. I know you've done analysis on other grappling before, but this specificity on the kumi kata is cool. When I do open mat or nage komi with my JJJ partners they always get thrown off. They also think I am way too rough sometimes so lots of apologies. Darn it JUDO!

  • @marty6522
    @marty6522 Před 2 lety +8

    "Only a ninja can kill a ninja!"

  • @TheSADHU88
    @TheSADHU88 Před 2 lety +9

    I agree, some people have theories that don't work, however what you said, we had a few judoka in our ninjutsu dojo, they were pretty good fighters, and training with them has taught me a lot. Also training with my dad in judo helped me a lot to understand how to fight against someone who is a judoka. You need to know some judo and you need to spar a few months before you can try anything with success against a judoka. I remember at first I got my ass kicked a lot but later things were different as some of the "illegal" stuff from ninjutsu really works but you need to have fighting experience first, and also when you learn judo techniques, later you can see how to counter them, but you must have good stability on your feet and learn to take the pressure, or you will end up on your head quote fast. All in all its good to know different variations of ju jutsu(ninjutsu as you know has its own form of ju jutsu although its called differently) so you have more options on what to do. I personally found hip throws leg sweeps and committed throws the best for self defense, because they are fairly easy to do, and are very effective against untrained thugs.

    • @Haywood-Jablomie
      @Haywood-Jablomie Před 2 lety +2

      When you say it's called something different, do you mean JuTaiJutsu ?

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  Před 2 lety +5

      Exactly you need to know your opponent fully to be able to fight them. That's why I finished my video with the message that fight a judoka and try to apply the techniques in order to be efficient.

    • @TheSADHU88
      @TheSADHU88 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Haywood-Jablomie yeah that's what I mean, we just called it tai jutsu, but yeah.

    • @Haywood-Jablomie
      @Haywood-Jablomie Před 2 lety +3

      @@TheSADHU88 So, Taijutsu is more of a general term for the way of body movement... but the "Judo" aspects are generally called Ju-TaiJutsu and the Striking/Atemi aspects are generally called Daken-Taijutsu.
      A lot of the Takamatsu arts (Bujinkan, Genbukan , Jinenkan, To Shin Do) are filled with essentially Aiki-Jutsu techniques and some classical Jujutsu. But Hatsumi and Manaka Sensei were both also Judoka before learning from Takamatsu.

  • @mailthedragon
    @mailthedragon Před 2 lety +3

    I consider the comparison to be a bit unfair. The judoka's in the video are clearly sparring, the ninjutsu instructor is demonstrating a possible counter technique to his students so they can practice, which is always done much slower.
    As for the pressure points in the arm, trust me if these get hit or grabbed in the 'proper' way they hurt a lot and make holding a grab a lot harder, if only for a moment.
    Judo and ninjutsu are very different so comparing the two is nearly impossible, one is a competitive sport, the other is an art of war with no competitive element other than self improvement.

  • @gingercore69
    @gingercore69 Před 2 lety +5

    Interesting point i think i got from reading the comments... Seems to be very common for ninjutsu practitioners to crosstrain
    At my local ninjutsu dojo everyone seems to cross train... There are sanda fighters, bjj practitioners, boxers, judokas, karatekas, sipalki practitioners and aikidokas

  • @basilistsakalos9643
    @basilistsakalos9643 Před 2 lety +2

    I used to train Ninjutsu for about a decade. Thank you for this video, your assessment is extremely accurate!

  • @benfranklin2168
    @benfranklin2168 Před 2 lety +2

    I don’t think you can compare kumi-kata as the ninjutsu instructor not understanding it’s purpose to disorientate someone and destroy posture when striking in close proximity does just that as well. As far as self defense vs sport adding striking while grip fighting makes it completely different. Then to say it’s not affective denies a lot of the clinch work and grip fighting involved in MMA, sanda, sambo, ashihara karate, enshin karate, kudo, or any knockdown style martial art. Heck add head butts and the whole game changes even more. Grip fighting is important, but It’s just another tool in your toolbox, cliche as that may be.

  • @RedFoxGrappler
    @RedFoxGrappler Před 2 lety +3

    Akban’s usually fairly reliable for practical fighting, so my guess is that the only reason they’re so static is because its a kata demo. I don’t think they’d be doing those 12-6 elbows so exactly and precisely in a live resistance situation

  • @user-qp1yc3zl8i
    @user-qp1yc3zl8i Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you very much for your valuable and excellent information. Your channel is an important reference in the world of martial arts, especially judo. I wish you more success.

  • @matthieudupiol5885
    @matthieudupiol5885 Před 2 lety +1

    I like your work. I found that you compare elite judo practitioner. With someone whose showing techniques I think more useful against average practitioner, in a street fight event.
    It s a bit like comparing if my boxing technique work against Tison or other elite boxer or MMA fighter.

  • @shadowfighter6445
    @shadowfighter6445 Před 2 lety +3

    The Akban looked like they have good teachings, except for the Kyushu jutsu part.
    Thank you for sharing ☺️.

  • @retroghidora6767
    @retroghidora6767 Před 2 lety +4

    I believe Akban came from the bujinkan,
    So the bujikan has at least a few legitimate koryu in their curriculum.
    However these styles are mainly just regular pre-judo jujutsu.
    The "ninjutsu" taught by bujinkan folks and their offshoots are a mix of different jujutsu ryuha likely with some kung fu or karate and black dogi added on top to help sell the hollywood ninja bit.

  • @isaiahkenny3544
    @isaiahkenny3544 Před 2 lety +1

    0$U! Great Video Bro! It all compliments each other judo influences more sport verzuz ninjitsu is more self defense! It's all one family it's cool to see how Jiu Jitsu evolves. Like BJJ it's all one family at the end of the day judo and Jiu Jitsu compliment each other I agree Chadi we should actually get the kumite experience from someone who is good to novice to not only test yourself but to make yourself better and know the difference from actual experience!

  • @fredazcarate4818
    @fredazcarate4818 Před 2 lety

    Chadi thank you for producing another gem. As usual you hit the proverbial nail on the head.

  • @lsporter88
    @lsporter88 Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent point, grappling is dynamic (superior visual representation of that in this video by the way). Break your opponents balance (and concentration) with strikes to soft points on the head and neck before throwing them in a real fight. Might be a good idea to consider using kicks to the knees and foot sweeps as well as striking soft points on the head and neck, (the throw would be the finisher). This would be considered quite dirty in Sport Judo.....But all's fair in self defense. Another superb video.😎👍🏾

  • @nathaniellococo2888
    @nathaniellococo2888 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for making these videos I really enjoy them. You should really check out Japanese shoot boxing, Japanese saw wrestling and shoot fighting.

  • @budisutanto5987
    @budisutanto5987 Před 2 lety +1

    5.45 I agree, it won't work when regular people did it. It's an advance move. Need high precision and explosive punch. Which many people can't do it because it doesn't have enough space to produce momentum.
    Not to mention the difficulties to find willing victims to practice it.

  • @harlemkham7650
    @harlemkham7650 Před 2 lety +1

    I enjoyed your video .. I would ask you to do this .. if you are able to, find a old school Bujinkan instructor who has trained in either Kosen Judo or Kodokan Judo and train with them. I believe you will find a different perspective after the fact.

  • @johnhills3085
    @johnhills3085 Před 2 lety +3

    That's taijutsu under my watch. Keep up the good work though.
    Here's a topic you might want to do a video on... disability and martial arts.

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  Před 2 lety

      Will check

    • @johnhills3085
      @johnhills3085 Před 2 lety

      @@Chadi Please do so. You can focus it on Wheelchair users, judo for visually impaired...

  • @breeze529
    @breeze529 Před 2 lety

    I agree with the last statement what you said about that Jiu-Jitsu combat book. I remember speaking up to my instructor and saying that if you were going to defend against a punch it should be something closer to what a boxer would do and how punchers throw with the back hand. I will go as far as having a student from the class watch some videos about a boxer, get well at the pendulum step, the jab, and the cross and use him to defend against in class. Being able to defend against the fundamentals would be a good start.

  • @richardgillies9160
    @richardgillies9160 Před 2 lety +1

    What you need to understand is that there is Benfro Nage or study throws and swnto nage battlefield throws.
    This is not really understood well. So when you look at Judo you study a number of throws but when you fight you will almost never be able to use these throws.
    What will happen is sent nage so a variation of a study throw, a combination of study throws and finally something new based on the principles taught in study throws.
    Random is an attempt to understand Santo nage.
    Strikes are a way of unbalanced prior to throw. Judo dose not use strikes and so kazushi is used more. However even with this in judo Jaku te or weak points are not really taught or understood well.
    Hope this helps.
    Richard

  • @bryanreyes7382
    @bryanreyes7382 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you for this video, Chadi. Speaking of Ninjutsu, what is your opinion about Dux Ryu Ninjutsu?

  • @Thelastronin357
    @Thelastronin357 Před 2 lety +2

    Been waiting on this one 🤙🏻

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  Před 2 lety +1

      🙇🏻‍♂️

  • @matheusqueiroz5284
    @matheusqueiroz5284 Před 2 lety +1

    hi Chadi, I would love for you to comment on and experience Bujinkan, I've been a practicioner for a while and I would love to incorporate some Judo to it, using training and your channel as a font. You're very knowledgeable both on the historical aspects and pratical ones of japanese martial arts, which i love to think is one big thing with lots of differents interpretations. I would like to become a researcher of japanese martial arts and i use your content as inspiration. much respect from brazil

  • @seroma3516
    @seroma3516 Před 2 lety

    Brilliant summary and conclusion. Kudos.
    I train in both, working on 7 styles. Pretty interesting connection between kumi kata and sticky hands

  • @lorimcmahan6812
    @lorimcmahan6812 Před 2 lety +1

    Hello Chadi. I am considering starting judo and was wondering if you could do a video on judo grip fighting with street clothes. Please note I am well aware that judo works without the Gi but I am curious about things like sleeve and lapel grips with t shirts, hoodies, etc. keep up the good work and thank you.

  • @spakeface5913
    @spakeface5913 Před 2 lety +2

    You are comparing mat-space-competion art to actual self-defense conflict (in various terrains/situations). This video is incomplete

  • @belettedelamort3588
    @belettedelamort3588 Před 2 lety +4

    Thank you Chadi once again for this excellent content. But the Akban teacher must have fought only weak hands or weak man with weak hands. First of all, like you did say, a judoka is really dynamic with his hands and he is awaiting the loose grip of the opponent to throw him off. And second (if strikes are allowed), if i feel an opponent hit my arm with your fist, you officially get a hook on the jaw. lol

  • @shugyo108
    @shugyo108 Před 2 lety

    Interesting discussion Chadi. In some budo taijutsu schools, they do have some pressure testing of throws and randori, but mainly kata practice

  • @kristianOLS
    @kristianOLS Před 2 lety

    Awesome, you tell them Chadi! These people have ideas of what judo is, unless they’ve done it they won’t truly know.
    There’s a scholarly paper that looks at aikido vs judo. If I can find it i will send it to you

  • @1Captainafrica
    @1Captainafrica Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks Chadi, I have studied under both schools even though my judo is advance and I must say that the first strike may work, but as you implied that martial arts is not static. Bunjikan has interesting elements, but its interpretation is lost because the Ten- chi- jin's interpretation is lost to the era in which it was wrtten in. I suggest you go for some of the classes to give you context-this is not in any way saying you are not right. I appreciate your content.

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  Před 2 lety +8

      I've considered giving Bujinkan a shot there are dojos in France

    • @1Captainafrica
      @1Captainafrica Před 2 lety +5

      @@Chadi Akban is pretty much one of the most practical bunjinkan. You do not really understand how much your content has helped me mentally-thank you.

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  Před 2 lety +3

      @@1Captainafrica 🙇🏻‍♂️

    • @counterkidnapping1737
      @counterkidnapping1737 Před 2 lety

      How to deal Judo grips? Learn Judo or be a Judoka. Same with how to defend a single or double leg? Learn wrestling or be a wrestler

    • @syntheticalnothing
      @syntheticalnothing Před 2 lety

      @@Chadi Ninjutsu no ryugi in Paris (if you are from Paris!) Could help you to scratch the itch!

  • @QuantumPyrite_88.9
    @QuantumPyrite_88.9 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome video Chadi . As good as your excellent video regarding Hapkido . Liked and *SHARED* .

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you so much🙏🏻🙇🏻‍♂️

  • @douda3357
    @douda3357 Před 2 lety +1

    J'aime beaucoup le ninjutsu, merci de les avoir sorti de l'ombre

  • @dechannel7109
    @dechannel7109 Před 2 lety

    Chadi, are you a Judoka? Coz there are many judo/jujutsu content from this channel.

  • @bugs4680
    @bugs4680 Před 2 lety

    Akban is a great , I follow is station incredibly knowledgeable teacher

  • @lewisb85
    @lewisb85 Před 2 lety

    I've done Bujinkan as well as BJJ the only Ninjutsu guy I give any real time for is Simon Yeo, He's a second degree black belt under roger gracie as well as holding a black belt in Japanese sports Jujitsu. Reason why I hold Simon's stuff higher than most is because he's brought his BJJ, Muay Thai and JJJ training into Bujinkan so I get the vibe his students are more real world rounded than most ninjutsu students.

  • @beyondhomosapien
    @beyondhomosapien Před 2 lety

    When I first started martial arts, I trained ninjutsu for a few years. Also got a brown belt in judo. Both arts are Lots of fun and the weapons stuff in ninjutsu is great but the lack of sparring in ninjutsu is a big problem and lack of wrestling takedowns is big issue for judo. I wanted a full spectrum grappling art. I really enjoyed training both arts but ultimately I dove into Brazilian jiujitsu ten years ago instead and never looked back.

  • @SoldierDrew
    @SoldierDrew Před 2 lety

    Chadi, You've seen the Combat Brazilian Jiujitsu tournaments created by Eddie Bravo?
    They incorporate heel palm strikes into their BJJ grappling tournaments to create grapplers whom are prepared for dealing with strikes.
    Perhaps Judoka should create a similar tournament that allows heel palms & slaps in a Judo competition to better prepare Judoka for operating while defending against strikes.

  • @Xpistos510
    @Xpistos510 Před 2 lety

    If you guys had to choose between training Judo or Ninjutsu, which are you guys going with, and why? My instinct is to focus on Judo since it seems to have more modern practical application and stress tasting, but I'm looking for other perspectives.

  • @miketurley3296
    @miketurley3296 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi . There is a Real Ninja class taught at University of Michigan . For real a liget Ninjitsu school next to the MAT Room .

  • @MagickArmory
    @MagickArmory Před 2 lety +3

    Ninjutsu is NOT hand to hand combat martial arts system . Anyone that says they do "ninjutsu " as a form of budo or hand to hand combat self defense etc is misinformed or just a fraud. Shinobi no mono (ninja) did study martial /fighting arts but ninjutsu is simply a form of espionage , explosive work, and well witchcraft /magic . Im not saying this akban man can't fight or that his art can't deal with grip fighting BUT IT IS NOT NINJUTSU LOL the dude is simply just practicing ju jutsu modified in some way just like most of the modern arts

  • @RadicalTrivia
    @RadicalTrivia Před 2 lety

    It's funny, because I often hear that jiujitsu doesn't have many solutions for wrestling/judo/stand-up - but what I think is closer to the truth is, Rickson's connection principle is the solution to not just this, but everything grappling. Somehow, not many people (at least around here) talk about it. Far more common is talking techniques and systems, which I do not think are as user-friendly as the connection principle is.

  • @berylrosenberg704
    @berylrosenberg704 Před 2 lety

    How different is Ninjitsu from Aikijitsu? The sparring seems similar though the throws in Ninjitsu seem to have a harder judo execution

  • @dianecenteno5275
    @dianecenteno5275 Před 2 lety

    Great analogy! 👍💮

  • @loommoon2301
    @loommoon2301 Před 2 lety

    Well done, a ballanced comment. I agree with you. Anything works until it's properly pressure tested.

  • @sabby88888888
    @sabby88888888 Před 2 lety

    I've seen videos of them sparring in gloves and shin pads at that school, they do pressure test to some extent.

  • @thomasturner4253
    @thomasturner4253 Před 2 lety

    Love u showing how other arts deal with grappling

  • @marcoantoniocabreracardona5559

    hello interesting two points, first I can see that this supposed ninjutsu instructor is unaware of the real judo that was trained in Kodokan-judo of course I am talking about more than 30 years ago that many were unaware that the judo of Olympic competitions is not the same judo that we could call for personal defense that is not fighting and grappling because it has punches and atemi wasa stops, just as the principles of Master Kano have been forgotten, which was to first train jujutsu first and after a while, according to the progress of the student, it was appreciated the practice of Judo at least that is how it was taught to me in my case and in the same way I trained the Art of Ninjutsu, point two you cannot try to compare a sports art with martial arts designed for close combat more for military use, there are big differences not only in its purpose say no in the mentality of the practitioner. it is not the same to enter a sports competition than to enter a dark alley against crimes or a war zone and make the decision of life or kill

  • @gingercore69
    @gingercore69 Před 2 lety +2

    I agree on some level with this video but i think there is a bit of unfairness
    As someone who practice ninjutsu i loved the video, but you are comparing a demostration with full resistence... Find me a single judo training video.in wich the insteuctor explains the technique with a fully resisting oponent

    • @gingercore69
      @gingercore69 Před 2 lety +1

      I mean, when you show videos of throw examples you usually show the demostrations with non resisting partners to see the technical aspects of it... Why would the ninja have to do something different when he is showing the techniwue?

    • @c2lhu
      @c2lhu Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly. And he picked akban..where they train all that with resisting opponent..

    • @Haywood-Jablomie
      @Haywood-Jablomie Před 2 lety +1

      Usually in judo it is demonstrated as 3 steps forward or backwards, sometimes sideways. Rarely with resistance outside of randori

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  Před 2 lety +3

      I never said they don't work, in fact I stated that they do. But this video had 2 messages behind it.
      1) people need to understand the nuances of grip fighting.
      2) showing these techniques and not training them against a competent judoka to truly understand the techniques is futile. Randori is crucial to hone techniques.

    • @gingercore69
      @gingercore69 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Chadi then look up akban randori videos, they have so many videos of live randori!

  • @MacCionnaith
    @MacCionnaith Před 2 lety

    I'm pretty sure kumiuchi translates to something closer to struggle rather than grappling.

  • @harlemkham7650
    @harlemkham7650 Před 2 lety

    I also forgot to add, although your title say Judo vs Ninjutsu ... There really wasn't any comparison made, it was more so a statement of how Judoka use Grips. There also wasnt anyone who physically represented either one system in a dojo setting to do a compare/contrast of techniques.

  • @salvadorbecerra8976
    @salvadorbecerra8976 Před 2 lety +2

    Mr. Chadi You Mention About Israeli Practitioner Of Ninjutsu. 🇮🇱 🥷🏻

  • @JustSomeGuy69420
    @JustSomeGuy69420 Před 11 měsíci

    ....One of the things that really amazes me in so many competitive judo clips...is that a person gets thrown hard and then stands right back up, or the thrower gets rolled into a bad position...sorta goofy. Unless the throw finishes them in itself, the fight is just beginning! A lot of goofiness with Judo, even on the competitive side. I think we need MMA in a gi...maybe after the first round another person comes in. If it goes another round...a pugil stick gets thrown into the ring. lmao. Need a little reality.

  • @fenkers3249
    @fenkers3249 Před 2 lety +3

    I am a purple belt in judo, i train in bujinkan as well. I like how the jujutsu completes what i learned in judo. I think the akban guy just wanted to illustrate how to get rid of kumi kata, in sure he doesn't think that a judoca will only grab you and stand there.

    • @belettedelamort3588
      @belettedelamort3588 Před 2 lety +1

      How did you become a purple belt in Judo? This color does not exist in Judo. lol

    • @fenkers3249
      @fenkers3249 Před 2 lety

      @@belettedelamort3588 How come? Purple is before brown belt, and after green belt.

    • @belettedelamort3588
      @belettedelamort3588 Před 2 lety

      @@fenkers3249 BLUE belt. Purple is for BJJ

    • @fenkers3249
      @fenkers3249 Před 2 lety +1

      @@belettedelamort3588 I just realized that in judo we have different belt systems in each continent, i had never realized that. In SA the official belt progression include the purple belt before the brown belt and the blue belt comes after the gray belt.

    • @belettedelamort3588
      @belettedelamort3588 Před 2 lety

      @@fenkers3249 hahaha, you come from Brazil. There only 2 places in the word that does not use the standard Japanese(or world) format: Brazil and Israel. Now I understand

  • @k9m42
    @k9m42 Před 2 lety +1

    I didn’t know Bruce Willis does Ninjutsu.

  • @J3unG
    @J3unG Před 2 lety +1

    Bro...before there was BJJ, there was JU-JITSU. Ju-jitsu is simply empty hand combat and nearly everything we do in non-BJJ ju-jitsu starts standing up, similar to judo but with no sport grip. It's truly unfortunate that ju-jitsu is now associated with bullshit ground fighting sport BJJ. It's terrible. You want to see some good shit? Look up Small Circle Jui-Jitsu, SPECIFICALLY the Wally Jay era and his demos. This was THE top jui-jitsu/grappling art before bullshit BJJ came into being. You will see the flexibility and genius of Wally Jay and see how that shit transitioned fluidly into any martial art.

    • @dublingraphicdesignmeetup2936
      @dublingraphicdesignmeetup2936 Před 2 lety +1

      There is no such thing as ju jitsu. The Brazilians miss spelled jujutsu so bullshit arts popped up calling themselves ju jitsu. Your understanding of history is wrong or not complete.

  • @alittlepuertoricanboy1993

    Naturally, you're going to see a lot of similar moves to judo taught in many schools of modern "ninjutsu", since they very often ARE just Japanese jujutsu schools with black gis and Japanese construction worker tabi boots. Plus, the guy who started Akban was trained in judo anyways.

  • @lucapaniconi2940
    @lucapaniconi2940 Před 2 lety

    Kumi-kata is the butler of damashi and kuzushi. Kumi-kata without the other two is of little if none effect.

  •  Před 2 lety +1

    I love Judo

  • @ralfhtg1056
    @ralfhtg1056 Před 2 lety

    Speaking about hitting the arm at 6:13: did you ever receive such a hit? If not, give it a slight shot. It is quite painful. Especiall if you do not hit the biceps but instead hit on top of the elbow. I doubt that you would be able to maintain your grip after such a hit. Of course you are right, when you say that the way it is shown in the Ninjutsu video is unrealistic. But the core of the issue is: breaking the opponents grips. For which there are other techniques, then what is shown. First it is important to distract the opponent. Kicks to shin or knee are perfectly suited for this. Very few Judo pratitioners know how to cope with that. So I agree with you, but I also see the point made in the Ninjutsu video. Nevertheless I would try some slight different approaches to what the Ninjutsu teacher has shown.
    All in all a great video again. You always explain things so that even non-practitioners of Judo (like me) understand what you are talking about.

  • @andreasgiannakopoulos2738

    Chadi Ganseki Nage comes from armored grappling probably against armed enemy. It can't be applied in modern judo sparring unless modified. I have seen however rare judo throws that look like Ganseki Nage.

    • @MacCionnaith
      @MacCionnaith Před 2 lety

      A properly executed ganseki nage should slam to ukes face into the ground.

  • @DroneOnDrone
    @DroneOnDrone Před 2 lety

    Hey Chadi! Can you point me in the direction of your background music? Thanks!

  • @berylrosenberg704
    @berylrosenberg704 Před 3 měsíci

    Why don't more Sensei's bring in a seasoned boxer or street fighter to engage the students testing for black belt? Wasn't this done in old school dojos years back?

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 Před 2 lety

    When showing the basics of a technique, you show the basics….
    Seeing a demonstration of the basic techniques of grip fighting, you would see so many ways to counter it by constantly moving, that doesn't make it any less effective when used by a high level practitioner who has moved beyond the basics and understands the subtleties of the technique.

  • @animalslove4602
    @animalslove4602 Před 2 lety

    Both have the same technical and cultural characteristics

  • @tichtran8792
    @tichtran8792 Před 2 lety

    Only a ninja can kill another ninja. LOL.

  • @ACEOFTHEBLITZ
    @ACEOFTHEBLITZ Před 2 lety

    Ninjutsu is a joke. So are the weebs in the comments saying it's effect and that they train 10 different styles. Don't think you guys are living in reality or actually train

  • @giovannito858
    @giovannito858 Před 4 měsíci

    I'm sorry, I know you're trying to be nice, but those ninja videos are bullshit. They're all predicated on uke being compliant. That's not how judo works. Add in a pissed off judoka that knows how to strike, the ninja is in deep trouble.

  • @IkeTomas2010
    @IkeTomas2010 Před 2 lety +3

    Grip fighting is just as complex as infighting in boxing.

  • @vincewhite5087
    @vincewhite5087 Před 2 lety

    It’s an instructional video.

  • @c2lhu
    @c2lhu Před 2 lety

    So how is he going to show the technique? When you learn a throw in judo they show it inside a random kumikata? Not they so it with 3 steps back or front at the max

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  Před 2 lety +2

      I never said his stuff never works, The point of this video is to show non judokas how nuanced grip fighting is, and they need a Judoka to practice these techniques if shown only then they cannot do them effectively. I know his throw and strikes work but you need to test them fully and constantly against a judoka. Showing them is not enough.

  • @vincewhite5087
    @vincewhite5087 Před 2 lety

    I real life you are not stopping part way to give a lecture for camera.

  • @alLEDP
    @alLEDP Před 2 lety

    Yeah absolutely as a Judoka you either grip and go or you are continously trying to off balance your uke- shifting moving- off balancing. Why else should I grip up and not immediately throw? But eally EVERYONE who has done some kind off competitetive Martial Arts or combat sport should know that its NEVER static

  • @hiskandar
    @hiskandar Před 2 lety

    yeah!!! i love this akban judo aikido combo as his ninjutsu style

  • @illiJomusic
    @illiJomusic Před 2 lety

    I see elbows and headbutts and spit being your best bet for striking in this situation but like he says got to train with someone good at what you're hoping to defend.

  • @marcoantoniocabreracardona5559

    The truth is that a true practitioner of ninjutsu was here, from what I see, I very much doubt this is a legitimate instructor in Ninjutsu, because the first thing that a combat martial arts instructor would do would be to identify the difference between a sports and competition martial art, or a martial art of self-defense to a martial art for combat or military use, I can also say that a Judoka nobaros this in a street oelea and a true Ninjutsu would use jutai Jusut more oractic and effective than what is shown here that the truth does not nara tealizta and It will only give something very cool to the practitioner that in a real confrontation can cause him to go wrong or end up in a hospital, the true Ninjutsu would know better than what was exposed here

  • @DjTractus
    @DjTractus Před 2 lety

    Judo uses techniques refined and tested. Ninjitsu I'll be nice and say it's all theory.

  • @Todaidojo
    @Todaidojo Před 2 lety

    The weak point you described is "Jakkin", meaning "weak bone". I agree with virtually all of your points. But Jakkin is quite painful and effective if struck. Most Gata in the Ryuha show hitting Jakkin while not grappling where the point is more exposed. That example was likely just an idea by the instructor. I will say Akban do seem to train things fairly alive compared to Bujinkan. Good stuff 👍

  • @themeditationtimerchannel3357

    I found it interesting that @Iron Body Martial Arts who trained in Budo Taijutsu and has been a police officer for 11 years found many of the lessons of the katas very useful in real life application. Some food for thought

  • @TheSADHU88
    @TheSADHU88 Před 2 lety +1

    Yes! The much avaited video !

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  Před 2 lety

      🙇🏻‍♂️

  • @tc47101
    @tc47101 Před 2 lety

    rất hay 😁👍

  • @md_f_dnn
    @md_f_dnn Před 2 lety +3

    Bukinkan (and by effect Akban) does not actually have any legitimate historical connection to ninjutsu, if you really want to see some practices that might actually have a legitimate historical link to the samurai and the ninja, check out antony cummins, and natori ryu

    • @gingercore69
      @gingercore69 Před 2 lety +1

      Antony has a good video on bujinkan too, where he talks about their probsble legitimacy as a msrtial srt even if it has no conection to historical ninjutsu

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  Před 2 lety

      I'll check

    • @eagle162
      @eagle162 Před 2 lety

      Don't bother checking out either, Anthony is not reliable. I say this as a former fan and other historians have even said to stay away from his books.

    • @eagle162
      @eagle162 Před 2 lety

      @@Chadi recommend not doing that well there is no actual connection to ninjutsu, Anthony is also not worth wasting your time.

    • @snakeoveer1046
      @snakeoveer1046 Před 2 lety

      @@eagle162 I'm curious. do you have a problem with with his translation or the manuscripts he bases his work on ?

  • @uwemaxjensen3028
    @uwemaxjensen3028 Před 2 lety

    You are right, Chadi. The man doesn't know the first thing about grip fighting.

  • @rudycuyno171
    @rudycuyno171 Před 2 lety

    With all due respect m.r chadi Shinobi-no-jutsu/ninpou aka ninjutsu is not a ma. Shinobi-no-jutsu is nothing moore then historical guerilla warfare tactics used in feudal Japan 🇯🇵that can b applied to modern day. Shi
    Shinobi-no-jutsu is guerilla warfare espionage.sabatoge.subterfudge.arson.poisions.herbolgy.ect. pretty much Shinobi-no-jutsu is guerilla tactics.bushcraft.& survival tactics. It is not ma. As for taijutsu. Taijutsu is jst an older name for jujutsu^^. Please correct ur title ^^ as ur title is extremely misleading:( & will only feed the dogmatic lie that Shinobi-no-jutsu is a ma which as I have stated it
    Is not sooo please correct ur title^^ as ur title can b seen as misinformation which will lead to misunderstanding & only contribute to further misinformation:/

  • @nobbytang
    @nobbytang Před 2 lety

    When you surround yourself with yes men then when you ask the question “does this work ?” They all answer yes ……Akbar needs to do judo randori every night for a month ……then he will understand!!!

  • @beskeptic
    @beskeptic Před 2 lety

    "How to deal with X martial art? Oh its simple, just do this..." hahaha

  • @ramqi6239
    @ramqi6239 Před 2 lety

    i taught ninjutsu it s not real

  • @proteus2103
    @proteus2103 Před 2 lety

    I like how his kani basami was better than his tai otoshi : P

  • @rahadt904
    @rahadt904 Před 2 lety +2

    Ninjutsu is another form of bullshido

  • @guerrilla1044
    @guerrilla1044 Před 2 lety +2

    Ninjitsu IS JUDO (with no rules) Taijutsu throws are nearly identical to Kodokan judo because it focuses on winning the takedown above all