Ninjutsu techniques against Judo and Sambo holds - AKBAN
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- Yossi Sheriff, the AKBAN Academy founder , explains Ninjutsu kata derivatives that counter a Judo hold.
A part of the 19th week training in AKBAN training year.
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I've done judo, mma, bjj and boxing. I know many are skeptical of the techniques shown as they should be since there are so many ineffective martial arts out there, I cannot comment on the specific techniques here, but I think it's a good sign that he acknowledged that other styles exist, that they can be effective, and that you do not want to fight your opponent in their area of expertise. Plus, they are drilling and he's demonstrating the techniques himself, so I'll keep an open mind.
Ah, a serious and experienced comment. Not so common, but well received. Thanks.
There is no such thing as a ineffective martial art,many reasons why
Great video on a cool subject! We are practicing throw counters at our dojo this month as well, specifically O-kyo, U-gari, and Zu-dori.
Thanks! We go through a cycle, right now we are working on Daken 🤷🏼♂️🙂
Many thanks on the very informative steps in the videos, Sensei Yossi!
Always welcome Leon 🙏🏻
I have a background in Judo, have crossed trained in Catch Wrestling and competed in Karate tournaments for almost a decade. I would pay attention to this video as even one technique can be added to one's arsenal. As a Student of Martial Arts listening and paying attention to the Instructor, requires discipline and absolute focus.
Well written. Thanks for the insight.
Yes, totally agree. Well put.
That underhook Tai Otoshi at 2:48 is absolute genius
It works for us. Thanks 🙏🏻
Tiene buenas tecnicas algunas sprohibidas en judo y jujitsu como el kami basame
Excellent lesson, absolutely love the integration of hard daken with different throws. Thank you Yossi 🙏
Hopefully you’ll buy my espresso in a month or two 🙂
@@AkbanOrg Gladly and absolutely!
Fascinating stuff. I practice JiuJitsu and Tae Kwon Do and have found this very helpful in terms of expanding my knowledge of throwing/defence techniques. Thank you.
Thank you 🙏🏻
I just start JU JUTSU today and his techniques are great. Thank you sir!
Glad you find these useful. Happy trainings 🤝
0:12 Kibisu Gaeshi from Judo, 0:22 Kani Basami, Crabclaw Scissor Jump, Judo, banned in competition. Good techniques, I just dont see where this is Ninjutsu vs Judo or Sambo.
It’s just techniques that are not part of good sportsmanship
@AKBAN Amazing teaching skills! The explanations are lucid and well stated for every type of student. Makes me want to sign up even at my age! LOL.
Average age in AKBAN, probably 87 😉
So the way to fight against judo is to slap them and then do a judo move. Got it.
Maybe you got it
U just did or applies ur kuzushi
Yep
@@AkbanOrg bullshit no kzushii was applied , uke was compliant
As uke usually is in every martial art when first learning a technique.
Does uke give much resistance to a white belt learning basic moves of a technique?
Very cool stuff!
Thanks 🙏🏻
Thanks so much for the techniques!!
Always welcome Iori
Wouldn't be even better to use nakadaka (on the kyusho part) since you're aiming on a softer tissue under the arm? I didn't try it yet, but I'm supposing that the "shock" effect will be stronger.
I'm a bjj practitioner and I'm curious if I would still have strength to pull of a seoi nage after being hit like that. Eager to try...
Also, amazing video as always!
You are correct. It is a viable alternative.
Very good instructions!!
Thanks!
Very great seminar
Thanks!
I really admire your approach and the use of handori to improve the practical application of techniques. I am a practitioner of Bujinkan budo taijutsu and Gracie Jiu jitsu here in Brazil. Do you have a branch here? Would like to know.
Very informative, thanks
Always welcome
Respected sensi a very big OSS and thanks for your training tips.
Respect from India Anirban Nandy.
He should test that in real combat or Randori. Anyone can come up with their own fantasy counters to everything. Thing is, they have to actually work in real life, not just in a slow paced demonstration. The punching of both arms is ludicrous & unrealistic. It looks good, for a movie lol
Just a big maybe to many of the conclusions you wrote
@@AkbanOrg Not many conclusions. Just one, Unrealistic
@@Psypher169. It is real. You may question its effectiveness. Get someone to hit you with speed and accuracy where he said, then you may change your mind. There is a type of fighter who is hyper focus on the type of grip control he is teaching us to defend against. I know this can work. Love from NZ
@@TinekaJasonPalmer I have been practicing & competing in Judo, Bjj and Muay thai for a bit of over 20 years, so yes, I know.
Ok 👌🏼
Thank you for sharing yossi sensei 🙏
Thanks Francisco. A bit longer video this week but I preferred to bundle together the techniques.
I enjoyed reading about the Methodical Pyramid. Though it was never given a formal name, this pyramid resembles the training programs I have seen in other systems and even in other activities.
❤️🥋🙏Dear Sensei & Akban !
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
can't wait to start practicing ninjutsu
Thanks Yossi; love your techniques.
Thanks Russell 🤝
EXCELLENT as always ! Train hard and stay safe 💮
Thanks 🙏🏻
Incredible.
I like reading comments like these. 🤝
Could ukei bend his arm and lock your arm as you go into ganseki nage
He can, so it is essential to accompany the Ganseki with Kuzushi and speed
At first I thought he’s a chi master bull lol then I watched and he’s legit. Good stuff very very knowledgeable
Thanks!
Hmm. Interesting, I keep watching it and give it a chance
Practice safely
Thank you yet again Yossi for a really great explanation and show of techniques!
Always welcome
Can these techniques be performed against fully resisting opponents? The judoka won't just stand there and get punched and thrown.
dude, they can't be performed against a fully grown opponent...they have zero chance against even a slightly resisting opponent!
ZADKIEL, there are many techniques in the video, they work. The danger is a judoka that expects this and will throw immediately. That is why it’s good to know Judo and know how to stall.
@@AkbanOrg Just in case you're attacked by a wild Judoka!!!!
They're a real problem!
@@AkbanOrg Do you have any videos of full contact sparring?
Zadakiel, many
czcams.com/video/kThD8HIFUQk/video.html
That Old Master has kept all of his Vinegar. And he would have to, to do such moves. Simple, yet very effective. Bravo.
Exactly, simple. Thanks Leslie.
Going to make a video, BJJ techniques against ninjitsu techniques against judo and sambo holds 😂 everyone a ninja until they get double legged
Maybe you will make such a video. Probably you’ll just write another comment.
@@AkbanOrg if I were to make a video it would be a CZcams short 😂 how to suplex a man trying to punch your biceps in 30 seconds
You just wrote another comment.
@@AkbanOrg so did you lmao
Maybe I also did more than I commented. maybe, .
Excellent demonstration, I am a judoka and feel the same about tani otoshi, as I believe, you do about Kani basami. I have used tani otoshi with great success in randori. (Safely) I believe if it’s done cleanly with full commitment, there is little time or space for the legs to gets trapped in an awkward position. However get it wrong and somebody’s getting hurt unfortunately 🤕.
True. Kanu Basami can be dangerous.
Excellent self defense technique
Thanks 🙏🏻
Interesting ideas. Agree @1:48 to not play to the opponent's strengths. So in a real situation, by the time the judo practitioner takes hold ie gets his grips, the off -balancing has begun and that's already his domain. If a wrestler shoots a double leg it's very difficult to defend if not trained in that area. if a striker is already within his range then that'll be his domain, eg. knee, elbow and other strikes (think muay thai). And if the jiujitsu guy sets his grips while standing, there's a potential choke-out, but if he's taken to the ground, that's where he'd be most comfortable and given the leg position after Kani Basami, with counter knee bar or fig. 4 toe hold, heel hook etc. not to mention what his options might be if he gets head to head parallel or cross body on the ground. Maybe your better defense options would be powders and potions: dust the eyes of these other stylists and while distracted, administer the sleeping needle, then disappear from the scene before the authorities show up :)
Ok…
Técnica eficiente como deve ser.
Non resisting opponents
This is an instructional video. Be instructed, or not. It’s ok
Right idea, some useful techniques, some so-so.
Good comment
Hmm at 4:40 i wonder why he says the shuto might kill him? Maybe its because karate could be effective and people dont know what they are talking about?
Muito Bom oss
🤜🏽🤛🏽 Ossu
done.
Excellent!
Thanks Joe 🙂
reminds me on the Bunkai of the old Naihanchin Kata.
Nice association 👌🏼
👍🏾
🙏🏻
To find out if anything works that your practice, is to pressure test it , other wise it’s just guess work , put MMA gloves on , and get the opponent to go for it , you will soon see what to keep and what to get rid of , Gary Spiers ,
Pressure testing is what distinguishes AKBAN Ninjutsu from modern Ninjutsu schools
Yossi seems to be a nice guy.
Seems to be 😎
For all the assholes in the comment section, why would these techniques be ineffective? These techniques are all legit, and used also in effective martial arts, such as judo, karate, which are used in mma. For all the people saying that this is not ninjutsu, but judo and sambo,.you have to realise that a lot of martial arts are pretty much related, so there are a lot of times variety of same techniques used in different martial arts. Glad that Akban started uploading videos again, cheers. Keep up with good work
Thanks @Bogdan. I welcome all comments, they help.
@@AkbanOrg I understand that you need to be open minded, but I didn't see constructive criticism from others, just repeating the same thing that it is ineffective, it's boring. Cheers
Awesome thanks for showing this technique
Thanx✨
I see the hidden Ninja up on the table. 3:43 :-)
😎🦎
I can see the point in some of the critics, but really there must be a technique that one should be able to apply when one is grabbed the sporty judo way, but one does not want to play by judo rules and end up on the ground.
True
So you are doing……… Judo, to counter…. Judo. Fucking brilliant.
Why not
so I actually have a black belt in judo and sambo...competed for 15 yrs...I fought pro mma too ..I have never been punched in both my inner arms 🤣🤣
I have a belt too but I have never been to Antarctica. Using the same logic, I presume it doesn’t exist.
@@AkbanOrg not sure what ur saying here but I think ppl like u are charlatans that take advantage of gullible idiots..u teach nonsense that builds false confidence in people and it may end up getting them hurt...if u are ever in NYC doing a seminar send me an invite and I will be happy to come and show u how much "it doesnt exist"
After you get your second hand grip, are you remembering to stand there and do nothing until the guy hits you?
Different solutions
@alan s 👏👏👏
I love how this thread is full of martial arts pundits claiming back and forth. Most seem to be triggered by the word Ninjutsu, rather than actually contemplating on the effectiveness of the techniques shown here.
Bingo. It’s just some techniques. Sure, they show in our ninjutsu, but the techniques in the video show elsewhere.
Many who do MMA do know a lot
@Mark Daniels I doubt you can see anything with his balls flopping down over your eyes....
I don’t find the so called McGee comment funny and I am leaving the comment but blocking him.
@@AkbanOrg I don't find running around in black pajamas and stealing money from people by pretending to teach them to be a ninja funny...but, each to their own.
Most important fact Akban said...hit first. I like a single finger eye jab, hard,to the opponent. Stops most anyone instantly.
Hit first, or grapple first or anything so that the opponent doesn’t play in home court
11:19 Adriano Chelentano either trains in this club!??
Mr. Chelentano is too young for us 😎
All the pressure points staff has been debunked many times. Your best bet against a well-trained judoka is to apologize. Most, if not all, of them, are cool dudes and will forgive you.
Since I am a Judoka too, I can attest to that, I do tend to forgive, probably because I am a cool dude.
I agree with judokas being cool dudes on average, but if you think getting punched in the side of the biceps or kicked in the xiphoid process doesn’t work you’ve never experienced either.
Exactly
You are correct but Mr. Akban is A judoka and judo is jiu-jitsu; this man is the real deal this is not the ufc or mma
Judo and sambo techniques against judo and sambo holds..
Exactly
Amazing techniques.
Thank you! Cheers!
Everything depends on the experience ans skill of the opponent. If he's a 3rd or 4th degree black belt in Judo, it's goodbye birdie.
Maybe
Dude, if he's a green belt or above he's going to put grandad here on his ass, and then to sleep.
attacking the weapon is very common. in this case, the arm is the weapon and is closest to you. Too many here are thinking what will work in a ring where throat and eye attacks aren't allowed nor is dislocating a knee or breaking an ankle. But Tim Larkin encourages disabling attacks. It's the only way to save your life if unavoidable. A sanctioned "fight" is not life or death.
Exactly
What if his opponent is wearing a t-shirt?
Then czcams.com/video/e9IlOX8HHhc/video.html
Técnicas Funcionais, parabéns
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I love akban! I practice and teach a lot of your concepts in judo class. Thank you! The nerve point stuff has a bad taste though, it can scare off first viewers for good reasons. I learned and felt it myself, i dont doubt it exists, but there are practical and social reasons, why i despite it. But dont let the sceptics offend you and keep up the very good work! i always wanted to come to Tel Aviv for a few month to train with you, it would be a honor for me, if i could orginaze it and you let me in. Greetings and much respekt from germany
I teach only wanting to explain my point of view, never to apologize for it.
@Michael Brown sry cant stop it, its my life😅 i run alot of classes, one for children, one for adults, one for competitions, one for people with special needs, a open mat where other styles are invited, one for self defense and one for people with dementia. You should try fighting Sports one day. Its good for mental and physical health and you meet alot of nice people. The style isnt that important, but you should trust the coach and feel well in the group. Just ask if you have more questions 👍
Not to pile on, but some of these techniques seem fishy. Like the punching to the biceps, it doesn't seem like that could work. I'm down for instruction, but I need to see some pressure testing. Like I know an armbar works because I've seen it applied against high level, low level, under duress, in instruction, etc. These techniques I've never seen or they're done from a bad position that can easily be nullified by your attacker. For example, a front kick while he's controlling your arms? In a pressure test scenario, the guy is going to keep moving you around unless there's a wall or not if he wants to set something else up. In any case, it seems like attacking while he's controlling you is just a bad idea. Some of the finishing techniques I have little issue with, it's just the path there seems ineffective under duress. I would like to see you execute these while you are grappling. Like they should wear the little wings kids wear in the pool if you are going to punch them in the arms that way you don't hurt them too bad. Give them body protection so you can kick them harder in the gut. Just something to show that these moves do work and they hold up under pressure.
Psommor, right you are in almost all your insights.
Two caveats, we regularly spar, and have some videos to attest to it. Also, the punches are not to the biceps but to the line above the brachial artery. The punch hits either one of the two nerves that companies the artery. If it hits, the opponent can’t grab.
@@AkbanOrg I've seen your sparring. I looked deeper in the comments and saw some dude trash talking your channel. There was a link to a 10 year old video and it just looked like you were doing MMA. You look legit, but I mean seeing you pressure test the more out of this world techniques. There's a guy who called out knife defense while back. I saw his free instructional videos and I tested the moves out with my friends. Most people would look at that and say, "That's stupid, you should just run." But he demonstrates how his modified techniques work in drilling. I bought his program and we see him failing in some of his technique, and we see his techniques evolve to become more effective. Punching the brachial artery, I don't have an issue with. The issue is while under pressure can I rely on this technique. Not that it can't be done, but why use it when there are other techniques that do work more reliably? It looks like you need to have movie level motor skills to use it in a situation where adrenaline takes over. It doesn't seem practical.
I understand your viewpoint. Right now the main initiative is documenting lessons for our private wiki. I am outputting a video about Ninjutsu sparring. I hope it can give me some points.
Here’s a link to this year’s training www.akban.org/wiki/Training_week_07,_AKBAN_Ninjutsu
I like these techniques, if you need serious self defense or need to kill terrorists then there is some good stuff here. . Many of the techniques are good and would work but you have to have the instinct to administer them. Its hard to build that instinct outside of a controlled tournament atmosphere like a bjj boxing, or a judo match... But yeah if some guy/ judoka grabbed you with some good grips expecting to hit an "ipon" and you made space effectively and kicked him in the guts and the punched him in the throat, it might be a be big surprise for him. Could win you the day! But if its a bar fight, the guy is not just garbing you. He is trying to gouge your eye and smash your head. so you gotta have the reactions down pat.
I agree with you. Winning is not so simple.
Great content. I've been involved in martial arts and combat for a long time. Some 47 years. I've seen a lot of BS. This is some good stuff from a knowledgeable teacher.
Thanks 🙏🏻
In Wing Chun, we hope and pray the opponent grabs with one or both hands. It's like handing us a piece of cake. We eat at our leisure.
If the opponent grabs with one or both hands, we do not address or grab his arms to counter... at that point we are playing his game.
Stomp foot/punch chin/throat, rib, groin or anything that is open. Address anything that is soft, unprotected...eyes, ears, nose, arm pits, floating ribs etc... just do not grab his arms when he grabs you. And for god's sake, do not fight his body by struggling with his mass because you want to resist his advance. Rather, do what you can to speed up that advance into your domain and make him feel like he is ultra superior to you...in these short moments, he will think he is supreme while in reality, he is at his most vulnerable. This is the time to do as you please.
But the things you can do depend on your sensitivity, sense of self balance, and posture and relation of your body to his body position. You can't just throw or hit anyone... you have to be in a place where you can strike him, but he cannot strike you and he is not perfect balance while you are.
Interesting perspective 👍🏻
@@AkbanOrg - It is much more difficult than it sounds. Mostly because when under pressure, human nature resorts to fight or flight mode and clarity goes out of the window. But what humans do not understand is that whether there is clarity or no clarity, the moment of opportunity will still rise and disappear. There is always a moment of opportunity against attackers, 100% of the time. The trick is to be able to identify that moment, then have clarity to do what is available. It's all over it a fraction of a second...so you know that moment of opportunity exists less than that time span. But no worry because when you trip and fall and hurt yourself, it's only because in that fraction of a second, you could have recovered if only you were aware and had clarity. So the only reason you fell completely is because during that time, you missed that moment and once it passed, you were resigned to the completion of the situation. In the same way, an opponent's attack has identical phases.
We train ourselves to be aware of our bodies, our relation to externalities, and the inputs given to our bodies physically. We work on posture, muscular release of tension perpetually, not holding straining muscles and not reacting muscle against muscle. It is crazy difficult.
I guess that works if the person just stands there and doesn't retaliate...
Your guess is correct.
There are some interesting concepts. I've used the front kick technique just as he describes it against someone grabbing me with extended arms in Kudo competition. It works. But don't expect to KO your opponent with it. Most of the pressure point techs just don't work on aggressive opponents. Also the use of language about knocking him out or killing him suggests a lack of real fighting experience. Doing precise strikes to the arms of a grappler who has gotten both grips on you is just nonsense. They won't just stand there, Maybe there are a couple of ideas I can take from this though and with some tweaking may be able to use. The only way to find out is to try them out against resisting opponents who actually know how to grapple. At least these guys do actually spar though. I've heard its one of the few ninjutsu schools that does. But it seems they don't have any Judo black belts come spar with them or they wouldn't be posting this.
We have two Judo black belts and four BJJ black belts who learned either at De La Riva or Alan Moraes in Rio.
Renzo Gracie, Ricardo De La Riva, Alan Moraes actually came, in person, to AKBAN Israel. Also Ernesto Hoost and other pros. This is what we do, check.
@@AkbanOrg really? So you've actually tested these techniques out in sparring against resisting opponents who have decent grappling skills? You should have included some footage of that in the video. It would be impressive to see, and it would shut up a lot of us critics.
Yes to all of the above. (But, many times the techniques don’t work 🤷🏼♂️)
@@AkbanOrg I admire your honesty. Well no technique works %100 of the time but I hope you can get it to work often enough to justify it’s practicality.
Sorry for being so critical. In 30 years I’ve seen too much BS that I’ve developed a healthy level of skepticism.😉
Because I teach Kudo I have a particular interest in this topic, because we use both striking and judo in Kudo competition. In a previous video you showed some low kicks to set up throws which I found quite interesting. I like to combine Muay Thai clinch techniques with judo and dirty boxing. It makes for a very interesting clinching game.
The problem with AKBAN syllabus documentation is that we documented so much that it’s hard to find a linear, simple, description of what we do.
It’s a good practice to try to summarize: We are interested in checking traditional systems.
I think that’s a good summary.
Just get a competitive BJJ blue belt to come in and try that shit.
he 's got a very sweet throw at the begining , im trying tonight , but his strikes ... it's jackie chan rubbish , won't work against one of us . peace
Am cautious about so called pressure points, but these work.
Aimed at the line of the brachial artery, they crush either the ulnar or median nerve.
For real
@Mark Daniels some stuff that he show are sweet i admit , but strikes on the middle of the arm , righ arm strike then left arm strike then strike to chest then strike to head .... that's jackie chan rubbish , it ain't wort and i spare 3 time a week , that don't work , maybe you ll get one arm ....
@Mark Daniels true , fundamental and foundation , always , stick to the principal. Peace mate.
Ryo Chonan vs Anderson Silva
Wrestling and Catch Wrestling IS the best
It’s good
I would be interested in a real application in a dispute with a real opponent. Demonstrations to training partners who do not defend themselves are already well known from Aikido, Wing Chun and the rest of Kung fu. The movements are convincing on the loan. However, an opponent does not stand idly by and let it happen, but acts and defends himself. that always makes the difference.
Exactly
So do you walk around with a jacket all the time because a lot of shirts will simply rip when griped hard & pulled. Also, anyone who knows what they are doing is not going to take a fighting stance. They're just going to punch you in the mouth when they get close.
Maybe
@@AkbanOrg maybe what? Maybe they would just punch you in the mouth? Maybe the shirt would tear? Maybe you walk around with a jacket key all the time? I don't understand.
You have two scenarios that are likely to happen: a mugging situation or an average guy who's pissed off at you. The first case scenario you're likely to be taken by surprise & they're likely to just punch yo in the face or knock you out. The second situation if you two arevtaking a fighting stance, then you're engaging in a dual & not self defense.
Maybe if I text maybe the CZcams algorithm will like me more
@@AkbanOrg I'm thinking if you practiced this on real judoka who weren't your students or tried it on a boxer or even someone from the street who had a reputation for being tough we could see if what you have actually works in the real world.
I don't think the punches to the bicep are going to work at all. I was involved in a fight with a guy & had him in a guillotine choke & was swinging him around by his neck when I accidentally ran my arm into a metal hook multiple times. Didn't even realize it until the fight was over. So yeah I think in The dojo those techniques work fine but in real life it won't.
Ok
Here's what I know. Before I said a technique or concept wouldn't work; I'd spend enough time on the sending and receiving end of it. I've been around all levels of combat my entire life, and while my initial reaction is that I'm not likely to punch someone in the bicep; I wouldn't rule it out without a proper demonstration. I've learned an array of grappling and striking techniques that I first thought were low percentage only to evolve them into my game. Also, the idea that a move needs to work against the highest level of competition to work against someone you encounter in the world is ludicrous. If you meet a monster in the world, it may be that nothing you use will work, including grappling.
Exactly ✅
I cannot believe people are still watching so called masters who show three and four step techniques while their opponent just stands there. I am always amazed by the ways that strikers try to counter grapplers, this has been done in mma, sambo, judo, bjj, kudo and san shou to name a few, why would someone want to learn unproven techniques when there are many that have been tested and are almost certain to work.
Maybe people are interested
This is pure comedy
Maybe
This is beginner level with your partner standing still, next level is to do it while your partner pulls you around, final level is to do it while your partner is trying to off balance you and is attempting to throw you. Without doing all three levels, you will never know if it works for you. I see it many times in jujutsu for grabs where the partner is standing still, it does not happen like that in real life as a real grab has a pushing, pulling, or twisting force behind it.
AFAIU that is the whole point of the technique - to prevent the pushing/pulling and escape from the grab ASAP. The instructor says it in plain text at the very beginning of the video.
Exactly
These are excellent techniques but if it was the this easy to land these pinpoint strikes you would be the greatest martial artist in the world Even champion MMA fighters can't do this like how easily he makes it look especially if your up against a seasoned opponent.But also like he said practice to muscle memory👍🏽✌🏽💯
Exactly
@@AkbanOrg I'm not trying to be rude or disrespectful its just the truth Killing someone is not as easy as people think the human body can handle massive amounts trauma Also there wld be so many more deaths in full contact fighting BY ACCIDENTALLY striking these areas I've seen countless people take huge strikes to the throat and not only survive but continue fighting 🤔
It’s true. The body can withstand a lot and still continue to fight.
Yea, sure buddy~ lol
lol
Really?!. Would love to see that against a good or at least medium good experienced judoka in a real life scenario. I'm not saying that it wouldn't work but I highly doubt that. But it's never wrong to have new ideas. If this is hypothetical I love it but you have to test it in real competitions to see if holds up to its claim
We do test it. AKBAN is a Ninjutsu school that does pressure testing
@@AkbanOrg then I'm the first to take my hat off and wish you all the best 😊
With respect 🙇🏻♂️
@@AkbanOrg posting a video of this claim would probably be the best evidence for this.
Exactly
The opponent doesn't have a chance.
sometimes he has a chance
Using Judo or Sambo techniques against Judo or Sambo holds & calling it Ninjutsu techniques ??? LoL
Exactly
When you start hitting a judoka ))))
It is good
Choreographed fights with a willing UKE will always look good...but there is a massive point missing from all this.
I am a 2nd Dan Judoka and 1st in Kyokushinkai (see my channel)
Whats missing here are RULES and CONTEXT.
What rules would all these techniques be executed under.
You say these techniques can defeat a Judoka or wrestler etc.....
If I'm training Judo, with a fellow Judoka and I suddenly elbow his arm and face before I throw him, of course I will "win".
This all looks very fanciful and you come across as genuine, as most do....
But if you really want to prove the effectiveness of your "ninja techniques" the only way to do it is in a MMA style match with limited rules against someone of the same weight and age.
Bas Rutten springs to mind.....Now, That I would love to see and I know who I'd put my money on.
Until then, its just pretty techniques against a willing UKE.
With respect, Sir, I highly regard Kyokusinkai and Judo. I think that proving a technique in a structured system defeats the main rationale of the Ninjutsu I teach in AKBAN.
I am all for pressure testing in a rule based competition or sparring situation. I myself am close to 60, but sparred and competed until 45. Most of AKBAN students spar every session.
But, I try to not advocate sparring as the highest goal, if that was so, Sir, what would be the point of older practitioners like me training?
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Not proper emphasis on the elbow strike. It is key. If no damage is done by it, you put yourself in danger being so close.
The elbow is key
Quack
Maybe
The uke showed no resistance... Our "kill the sleeve, grip high hand" would really mess up this sensei's game.
Also if one plays by judo rules, there would not be a hit in the face. If we play by MMA rules, there will be a takedown and ground work.
Maybe
ROTFL he told he wants hit C2 and then he hit C4...
You are correct, I made a mistake
Judo includes akemi waza and kani basami. You countered judo with judo. One reason for this is judo is simply the reductions of the most effective techniques from koryu. You're not going to use techniques from koryu that a judoka doesn't know. Same thing for sambo. They include strikes and gi grips.
I am by no means saying these counters are not going to work all the time. They're from koryu and therefore are based in the same roots as judo and its offshoots. However, I will say that this form of training lacks the effectiveness of active randori. These strikes are difficult to deliver with resistance.
Better to switch to another system of koryu, such as yoshin ryu's ground fighting methods, to take their legs out completely. Judoka do not understand the threat of leg locks.
Another option is to reap into their guard. Judoka are unfamiliar with strikes on the ground. They still maintain closed guards as a natural preference, and this makes them vulnerable to ground and pound tactics. Taking the initiative and using a low risk throw is an excellent strategy against a judoka.
All in all, this isn't anything overly difficult or fancy. These are certainly real techniques. However, an unfamiliarity with live resistance will make performing them more difficult. I would search for ways it can be safely implemented into a randori session where your students can resist each other and learn to apply the technique as such. It's the primary difference maker in the ability to use techniques in real life.
Also, I'd just cut kani basami completely. It's too dangerous for live training. That makes it a difficult throw to pull off in real life. Familiarity equals ease. Although teaching students they NEED to go back is a great thing to work on. When it's locked in, it's time to go backward and focus on achieving a dominant position in the scrimmage.
Judo lacks kicks etc.
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Ah, no 🙀
I'm sorry, but to me it's just a physical exercise. In real life these techniques don't even work against a street fighter. Judo fighter also has grappling fighting techniques. The judo fighter will grab you on the floor and finish you off.
With respect, I say, maybe.
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Ok
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The proof of the pudding is in eating it...and in this case I am not sure ;-)
I agree, a fight is not a pudding
@@AkbanOrg yes, I've been in a few ;-)
I have never been in a pudding 🤷🏼♂️
@@AkbanOrg you should try it...it's much better than fighting;-)))
Akban, you challenge the most effective martial arts out there and you seem to be surprised people ask for a randori... Just take a judo guy and prove it... or change the title. It is clear to me you have no idea what you are talking about (judo brown belt here) but will give you a chance. BTW: trying to throw a judo guy after that elbow is a suicide.
Thanks Marek
Good basic Budo techniques.
It doesn't really matter whether you call it Ju-Jitsu or Ninjutsu because ultimately, the Ninja were Samurai.
Personally, I don't like "limb destruction" for practical self-protection, but there's nothing wrong with passing it on and letting people add or subtract whatever makes sense for them.
Good comment 👍🏻
Smh.....Judo in itself teaches how to counter grips. Judo itself is a cycle of how to use grips and defuse them too. Anything outside of that has to be a watered-down system as the system of judo already, rigorously, extensively show you the best ways to defend against judo grips. To throw is to learn how to fall first. Thats what is great abt judo, as a player and practitioner you learn both sides to everything and that includes defending grips while mastering grips offensively.
Ok 👍🏻