@@jrheritaRight off the bat, not knowing how many fighters Hamas has is fairly indicative. It’s a very important detail in this matter and for his description of their numbers to range by 100k just goes to show his lack of preparedness outside of the talking points he wishes to push.
A couple of points: -Not sure if Peter knew this but there is a MEU/SOC with the carrier groups which consists of a lot of Marines and contingent of Marine special operations (and probably some SEALs or other special operations teams). I do think one reason the carrier group is there is deterrence because like it or not, we have to defend Israel bc if in the off chance someone takes Tel Aviv, they now have nukes and a bunch of intel that will set CIA and the rest of the 5 eyes back decades. -That said, even if you didn't think deterrence is necessary, given the current situation i.e. hundreds of hostages, many locations they could be split up and hidden, and the fact Gaza is completely controlled by Hamas at the moment means IF they do attempt a hostage rescue it will be unlike any other. This is not like Iraq, Afghanistan, or Somalia where infils are as cut and dry as infils can be. It's possible they have to conduct many simultaneous operations and the carrier groups provide cover for large troop movements and also provide ample air support should things go sideways -Additionally, Gaza is not the only potential hostage rescue mission that may be necessary, if the regional uprising continues to expand, may need to resort to drastic measures to get people out of countries and embassies - Biden doesn't want another Benghazi -Lastly, given the potential for militias to get ballsy, all those ships provide protection to the operators and their support, for this mission, I don't think there is such thing as over kill or too many options
@@Tyler-vw9bh Really well put. I never thought of the implications regarding Israel being over run. Scary shit. What's that chinese curse about living through interesting times? Yeahhh. I'm all for it
@@DontUputThatEvilOnMe Only because he pilfers ideas from others and passes them off as original research. Zeihan is a notorious hack. Notice hardly any actual intellectuals attached to world class institutions will share a stage with him - they avoid him because it's so easy to see how much of a charlatan he is.
@@HiveMind629 he is just a cia talking spokesman...this is how America is run...constant lies and propaganda and not just with external politics but internal politics and economics...they lie about everything ...his analysis is really laughable...he says things like Russia will nuke china but not USA...that makes no sense then he says Iran and Russia are enemies and it is a relation of convenience but all relationships or most are based on convenience even within NATO...lol...I can go on and on
I enjoy listening to Peter's views on a range of issues, but think he's miles off regarding the aircraft carriers. Aircraft carrier fleets exist to project power. America is sending a message that it's still the only superpower and still a big player in the middle east. The message reassures allies including Israel and Saudi and is intended to deter Iran and it's proxies that may be tempted to start a larger regional war.
I'm retired from the US Navy. You are right. The Marine Expeditionary Unit ships are there for hostage rescue, not carriers. Carriers CAN transport passengers, but it is not their mission.
A US amphibious landing ship has all the capablities for a hostage rescue (including f35s). Most of the reason for having f35s on these ships was to expand special forces' capabilities using these smaller ships rather than a whole ass aircraft carrier group. 2 U.S. super carriers and destoryers will essentially have the same strike potential of Israel (a lil exaggeration but not really). The whole reason yoid pit an aircraft carrier group is idk, in the event rhey go in for the hostages, Israel would likely already be invading Gaza by land, sea, and air. Youd post a aircraft carrier group if things escalated from there.
Peter Z is great, don't agree at all about his assessment for why the carrier groups are there. If strictly hostage related, there's no reason for a carrier group at all being there at all. We'd fly in our hostage rescue units and likley have. Yes, carrier groups (plural...) are there as a warning to other enemies of Israel that the US will act if they do, and have already shot down missiles and drones headed for Israel.
A couple of points: -Not sure if Peter knew this but there is a MEU/SOC with the carrier groups which consists of a lot of Marines and contingent of Marine special operations (and probably some SEALs or other special operations teams). I do think one reason the carrier group is there is deterrence because like it or not, we have to defend Israel bc if in the off chance someone takes Tel Aviv, they now have nukes and a bunch of intel that will set CIA and the rest of the 5 eyes back decades. -That said, even if you didn't think deterrence is necessary, given the current situation i.e. hundreds of hostages, many locations they could be split up and hidden, and the fact Gaza is completely controlled by Hamas at the moment means IF they do attempt a hostage rescue it will be unlike any other. This is not like Iraq, Afghanistan, or Somalia where infils are as cut and dry as infils can be. It's possible they have to conduct many simultaneous operations and the carrier groups provide cover for large troop movements and also provide ample air support should things go sideways -Additionally, Gaza is not the only potential hostage rescue mission that may be necessary, if the regional uprising continues to expand, may need to resort to drastic measures to get people out of countries and embassies - Biden doesn't want another Benghazi -Lastly, given the potential for militias to get ballsy, all those ships provide protection to the operators and their support, for this mission, I don't think there is such thing as over kill or too many options
@Arbiter710 I don't think the contract is still valid since a US Ambassador and others were abandoned. Peter is wrong about the prison camp. In a prison one cannot go shopping, visit neighbors or even go outside. Also cannot elect terrorists to govern you.
A Carrier Group is a 200 mile "no fly zone" with a huge strike range. The Assault Task Group is what will act on a hostage retrieval. SEALs, command and control ships with the carrier group hanging out for air and sea dominance.
Our local news helikopter found that out when a carrier visited Copenhagen, the helikopter was politly told to get out of the air, if they did not want to be shoot out of the air. It was the most exiting thing that helikopter reported in months.
Compare Gaza and Singapore. Uniquely tiny, densely populated areas astride global trading lanes. Neither has natural resources. Same population density. One creates misery within and without. The other, prosperity and peace.
Singapore is somewhat more densely populated than Gaza. 6m+ people in 700 sq km vs 2m in 400sq km in Gaza. It’s the people that makes the difference. One is more interested to make more friends and money, the other is constantly scheming how they can kill jews and push them into the sea - even to the extent of ripping out water and sewage pipes and repurposing them to make rockets. If the people and their poor excuse for a government focus their energies on improving their lot, Gaza will not be in the sad state it is in today.
Don't agree Gaza lacks potential - in principle. It really could have been the Singapore of the Levant. Beautiful beaches and hotels, international airport, seaport, industrial zones, financial industry, etc. But that's not what Hamas wants.
Israel cannot make the decisions for the Palestinians. Israel withdrew from Gaza back in 2005. Leaving behind an international airport, sea port, agricultural infrastructure, some industrial facilities. There were work and business visa for Palestinians. And not a single Israeli within Gaza. After the withdrawal the Palestinians destroyed all the infrastructure and started to export terror. And somewhere in 2007 Egypt and Israel had enough and they started to place restrictions on them.
You got it all wrong but you are obviously not alone, Israel has no issues with a prosperous neighbour right on their border they only have problem with one that wants to destroy Israel, Hamas is pretty upfront about it.
Yup, wait until you get to his "Americans are totally self-sufficient with energy!" and all the experts who understand oil simultaneously face-palm. Peter is an entertainer and he knows it. He's milking it. I just heard him talk about Japanese and as an American living in Japan for several years I cracked up at how badly his punchlines contaminate anything he says of potential real value.
We all understand how clever you are but the reality is that if they had used all the aide they have been given to improve their lives and build and economy they would be living the way they do now...they chose killing Jews over improving themselves. n fact the first thing they did when Israel turned over Gaza to them was destroy all the infrastructure the Israelis left behind.@@Schlabbeflicker
Wasn't the Gerald Ford already in the Mediterrean before the Gaza-Israel issue kicked off on October 7th? Isn't there a different mission it was on from before the positioning off the coast of Israel?
Its Fun to listen him, but to send aircraft carriers 2 of them for freeing the hostages is laughable wrong reason...😂 But you got to give the man credit for believing in what he is saying... 🤦
I gotta admit the line about Saudi Arabia buying a nuclear weapon from Pakistan if Iran gets a nuclear bomb is something I never thought of but makes perfect sense.
Making a fission bomb with U235 is not difficult and well within Iranian engineer’s capabilities. The hardest part of that process is the separation of U235 from U238 which they can do with their centrifuges. I don’t understand why he believes they can’t do it. He just made a blanket statement without any reasoning behind his claim and I find that very suspect.
Israel left Gaza in 2005 & dismantled all its settlements there, hoping to get peace in return that will exemplify for the rest or the palestinians the benefits of peace. instead, in 2007 Hamas took over & chose eternal war instead, so israel had to isolate it & try to buy it with better economy, but this as obviously failed, seeing the 7.10.23
6:30 : Also, when Egypt did have more open borders, guess who snuck in and caused trouble. Egypt also controlled the Gaza Strip at one time (1949-1967) but did not let Palestinians become part of any other ME country, including Egypt.
Damn he's good. More and more listening to Saagar and Krystal (especially Krystal and her hubby Kyle) the more and more I go elsewhere to get information that is more 'down to earth', not someone (either right or left) who has an agenda.
Peter, in an ideal world, prison would be where the trouble-makers go. Prison is where you put people who've announced their intention to destroy you, and do violence against you. Gaza is not a prison- thousands of Gazans had work permits to travel into Israel. Now we know they gathered security information and maps used in the terrorist attack on Oct 7th. When Gaza was under Israeli control, the economy was pretty good. When Israel got out, they left behind the entire infrastructure for an entire agricultural/floral export industry. The first thing the new residents did was destroy all the greenhouses. The Palestinians are more concerned with committing acts of terrorism against civilians than they are about building a functional society. Through their hatred, their resentment, their violence they've built their own prison.
If you listen to G Man Pete over all channels you realise he is all hat and no cattle. Little bit of a glow in the dark kinda guy.😊 and that may well be " the entire story"
Lol...glowie's gotta glow after all. (4 Chan reference if anyone wants to do any research. Peter formerly worked at Stratfor which is basically the CIA retirement village)
in 1967, the US Carrier group also didnt want to get involved and they almost ended up nuking Alexandria after the Israeli's 'mistakingly' very persistently tried to sink the "USS LIBERTY".
Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach. Those that will say absolutely anything to seem smart, are called Peter "Chinas definitely collapsing this year" Zeihan.
I've never seen a person in my life like this. Ever. This man sounds so cogent and confident and educated yet his analysis and prognostications are so preposterous and dare I say childish. I mean he's just clueless. It's hilarious.
The Iranian's nuclear engineers may not have the expertise to create a nuclear weapon, but Russia and their engineers do. And Tehran has gotten very cozy with Moscow since the Ukraine invasion.
True but don't be surprised if Russia cuts backdoor deal to get ukraine in return to leaving Iran in the dark. Anything is on the table when it comes to Iran. It just wont be obvious that Ukraine loses.
you sure underestimate the Iranians....the powerplay of Americans. Iranians just blunted Ukrainian offensive with supply of drones to Russia. The lack of street credentials of American elites and policy is so bad, i almost feel sorry. The coming days will be dark.
Peter is an entertainer and he knows it. He's milking it. I just heard him talk about Japanese and as an American living in Japan for several years I cracked up at how badly his punchlines contaminate anything he says of potential real value.
@@EdBate For example, Peter said that Gaza was a "prison camp". There is not a single Israeli living or visiting in Gaza. Gaza is self-governed by Hamas. Hamas have been elected twice; I believe. Israel created a fence around Gaza after Hamas' terrorism became a feature. Thousands of Gazans work in Israel, daily. Gazans have access to Sinai thru the Egyptian checkpoint. Gaza receives Billions of $$$ every year. A simple google images will show a beautiful Mediterranean resort town along the Sea with thriving Hotels and beaches. Peter, who seriously recommends Al Jazeera as a credible source, is parroting terrorists talking points. He is just a Doom-and-Gloom artist or a Chicken Little Political Geographer - pick one...
@@kienzanable If Gaza is an open air prison, the Arab countries are every bit as responsible for it as Israel, because they refuse to incorporate the Palestinians into their own countries. They've purposely kept the Palestinians locked down in refugee status for nearly a century to use as a cudgel against Israel. The open air prison argument is shit when the first thing that they do upon leaving Gaza is to go killing civilians door to door. The Palestinians have lost all moral high ground with such actions. I recognize the distinction between the Palestinians and Hamas, but it's a distinction without a huge amount of difference.
Like Peter, and at least he's partially there. But Iran is very close to a weapon. US is there for more than just hostages. And Gaza is hardly a prison when people are entering Israel with work permits.
Yes, and what does "prison" mean? The Pals can go anywhere they're welcome. Israel would like nothing better for all of them to "escape" to Egypt, KSA, Iran, China, or the far side of the moon.
When he say that iranian engineers are not the world class to make a nuke he might be right i have no idea how that exactly there but the problem is that nowadays it became much more easy to build a bomb technology moved significantly ahead of Oppenheimer time. Now you need much less material to build one and it could be much smaller. They just don't need it that is why they don't have it yet.
I love how PZ feels like he's so sexy when he says "we will come for you" in different videos knowing zero about middle east problem... "if not for the hostages US had nothing to do with this situation" Oh My God
Peter: Hamas ran West Bank = Open Air Prison ..... But wait, what about Hong Kong = The most densely populated, super productive, and peaceful population. Hmm, it makes me think something else needs to be part of the conversation.
Gaza shares a border with Egypt. The rafah crossing. And yet, no one is blaming Egypt for not bringing food or supply to their Arab brothers. Strange...
@@DontUputThatEvilOnMe He also "predicted" that the Ukraine would cut off the water supply to Crimea by damming up the Dnieper - except the Ukrainians had already been doing that for years since the annexation of the peninsula and most people believe Zeihan took the idea off a CZcams documentary published literally years ago. Zeihan is a charlatan only stupid people who know nothing follow.
How is it a lie ? It is literally an open air prison And Isreal even controls the only crossing between Gaza and Egypt Evidence? If it weren't controlling it then the trucks that carry food and fuel for power generators would go to Gaza as they were But now Isreal prevents them from doing so
If a Roman citizen was arrested in a foreign land (like Judea) he could go over the heads of the local authorities by saying "As a citizen of Rome, I appeal to Caesar". Then he would have to be taken to Rome, for trial. U.S. Citizenship does have it's privileges, today If you are taken hostage, the U.S.A.'s forces will come looking for you.
that's funny--this idea that if you're in trouble overseas, the US govt will help. I've had plenty of US executives tell me the that if you're ever in trouble overseas, don't bother going to the US embassy. They're useless. You're actually better off going to the Canadian embassy. Don't know if that's the case, but interesting.
Funny thing about Americans is that they usually have so little to say about the empire they have, while the rest of the can stop going on and on about empires they've lost.
Peter is missing a key piece of the driving force here. Israel is committed at any cost to not allow Iran a nuclear arsenal. That is their existential threat. The US may not know it yet but they are being walked into an Iranian nuclear capability strike at the end of this.
There is no Iran's nuclear arsenal and there will never be. Iran, for hundreds of times, said that producing nuclear weapon is against their national interests, and religion.
I am sure the US is well aware of this and have been watching it closely. There's a reason they are repositioning so many of their forces in and around the middle east.
It is so unfortunate that the Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat made the decision to not signed the peace accords with Israel (which were negotiated by Bill Clinton) in the late 1990s. Under that plan, the Palestinians are going to be given significant chunk of land, financial assistance international recognition, the ability to stand up a formal army, and would’ve been on a path to nationhood. Instead, Arafat decided that it wasn’t enough and he wanted the entirety of the land of Israel instead of just the chunk that he was offered, and so he decided to reject the entire thing and now we have the situation that we live with today.
Genuine question. Couldn't countries, as big as Iran, take in these 2M Palestinians, on a stretch of uninhabited land (which I presume there is a lot of), and give them at least a new opportunity? Or would that go against Iran's ultimate goal of destroying Israel? Is the fight for Jerusalem, a couple of thousand years in the making, still very much alive?
@@kooratime1097 Actually, they already gave the answer further in the talk. Palestinians are primarily Sunni, while Iran is mainly Shia. They actually think of each other as apostates, so that would never work. That said, it's better if they had a place where they could have a chance at life, instead of staying in this "open air prison" as everyone calls it. At some point, you either acknowledge there is no solution and you look for an alternative, or you can do what Einstein called insanity, the same thing over and over and hope for different results...
Egypt occupied Gaza for over twenty years, then bailed....sealing their border. They want no part of them....nor does Jordan, or Lebanon. That should tell the world something. Read Genesis 16:12.
“Palestinian land”? Ever heard of the Old Mishuv? Those Jews who NEVER left the land that was Israel in ancient time? The ones the Cassius Dio wrote about after the collapse of the Bar Kokhba rebellion in 137CE? The ones who wrote the Talmud Yerushalmi around 300CE? The ones living in Galilee over one thousand YEARS before the first of the ancestors of the “Palestinians” were expelled from Damascus in the Fourteenth Century CE? Those people that have an over five thousand YEAR historical claim to the land? The “Palestinians” are nothing more than squatters. WHY will no Arab nation open its doors to the “Palestinians”? Publicly, they say it’s to prevent Israel from expelling them ( never mind that nearly 1 million Jews were expelled from North African and Levant Arab nations after 1948). In reality, no Arab nations wants the “Palestinians” in their countries because they are a destabilizing force. All you have to do is look what happened to Jordan and Lebanon to understand this.
I dont agree that haza never had a chance to be anything but a prison. Gaza could have been a blossoming area of business, agriculture. Israelis had growing houses when they lived in the area, and the gazans have a beautiful coast. In the 70s israelis used to go shop in the markets and visit the beaches. And they've had so much money given to them they could have made themselves Dubai. Hamas openly said just now that they have no interest in providing for civilian Palestinians nor have they ever. Hamas embedded themselves in the population , educated a generation of juhadists, and then were shocked that life there is terrible. Now the israelis have to finally clear out the messy infection that any nunber of entities could have taken care of, something they didn't want to do for 30 years because of the lives it will cost on both sides.
So Peter why didn’t they keep farming the land Israel left behind and why haven’t they built energy infrastructure with the 6 plus billion that other countries give to Hamas on a yearly schedule?
PZ's brand is that he speaks with the same confidence when he knows exactly what he is talking about, and when he hasn't got a clue.
yup just realized that
Yes and the trick is figuring out what is the ratio between knows and clueless.
What do you see here as clueless? Just curious. Gaza does seem like a prison.
@@jrherita At the beginning he said USA would have nothing to do with this if it weren't for the hostages. He's not looking at the bigger picture.
@@jrheritaRight off the bat, not knowing how many fighters Hamas has is fairly indicative. It’s a very important detail in this matter and for his description of their numbers to range by 100k just goes to show his lack of preparedness outside of the talking points he wishes to push.
Idk man... you don't send in two carriers just for the chance of rescuing a couple citizens, that's movie shit 😂😂😂
A couple of points:
-Not sure if Peter knew this but there is a MEU/SOC with the carrier groups which consists of a lot of Marines and contingent of Marine special operations (and probably some SEALs or other special operations teams). I do think one reason the carrier group is there is deterrence because like it or not, we have to defend Israel bc if in the off chance someone takes Tel Aviv, they now have nukes and a bunch of intel that will set CIA and the rest of the 5 eyes back decades.
-That said, even if you didn't think deterrence is necessary, given the current situation i.e. hundreds of hostages, many locations they could be split up and hidden, and the fact Gaza is completely controlled by Hamas at the moment means IF they do attempt a hostage rescue it will be unlike any other. This is not like Iraq, Afghanistan, or Somalia where infils are as cut and dry as infils can be. It's possible they have to conduct many simultaneous operations and the carrier groups provide cover for large troop movements and also provide ample air support should things go sideways
-Additionally, Gaza is not the only potential hostage rescue mission that may be necessary, if the regional uprising continues to expand, may need to resort to drastic measures to get people out of countries and embassies - Biden doesn't want another Benghazi
-Lastly, given the potential for militias to get ballsy, all those ships provide protection to the operators and their support, for this mission, I don't think there is such thing as over kill or too many options
American hostages might be a thing but there are thousands of American citizens living in Israel and the West Bank.
yea hes talking out of his ass. With or without those hostages US would be involved
@@Tyler-vw9bh Really well put. I never thought of the implications regarding Israel being over run. Scary shit.
What's that chinese curse about living through interesting times? Yeahhh. I'm all for it
The guys an idiot
Peter is smart and entertaining. But his greatest skill may be sales, selling his ideas whether they have real merit or not.
Many of them do tho
@@DontUputThatEvilOnMe Only because he pilfers ideas from others and passes them off as original research. Zeihan is a notorious hack. Notice hardly any actual intellectuals attached to world class institutions will share a stage with him - they avoid him because it's so easy to see how much of a charlatan he is.
yeah he doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to middle east or the Russian war...
@@MrTaloulagree especially when it comes to some specific countries in the Middle East. & on Russia he’s gotten a lot wrong
@@HiveMind629 he is just a cia talking spokesman...this is how America is run...constant lies and propaganda and not just with external politics but internal politics and economics...they lie about everything ...his analysis is really laughable...he says things like Russia will nuke china but not USA...that makes no sense then he says Iran and Russia are enemies and it is a relation of convenience but all relationships or most are based on convenience even within NATO...lol...I can go on and on
I enjoy listening to Peter's views on a range of issues, but think he's miles off regarding the aircraft carriers. Aircraft carrier fleets exist to project power. America is sending a message that it's still the only superpower and still a big player in the middle east. The message reassures allies including Israel and Saudi and is intended to deter Iran and it's proxies that may be tempted to start a larger regional war.
I'm retired from the US Navy. You are right. The Marine Expeditionary Unit ships are there for hostage rescue, not carriers. Carriers CAN transport passengers, but it is not their mission.
A US amphibious landing ship has all the capablities for a hostage rescue (including f35s). Most of the reason for having f35s on these ships was to expand special forces' capabilities using these smaller ships rather than a whole ass aircraft carrier group. 2 U.S. super carriers and destoryers will essentially have the same strike potential of Israel (a lil exaggeration but not really). The whole reason yoid pit an aircraft carrier group is idk, in the event rhey go in for the hostages, Israel would likely already be invading Gaza by land, sea, and air. Youd post a aircraft carrier group if things escalated from there.
I don't agree with a lot of things he says. You are right.
Lol, you guys don't think he knows that. Silly
Is he serious, a contract to save you from terrorists? From the same government that dupes and steals and kills for its own sake?
Peter, this Administration abandoned thousands of Americans in Afghanistan. If you are an American overseas, you are on your own
Solid point Brotha
Unless you are politically convenient.
They are taking great care of the Israeli Americans
The 'Americans" left in Afghanistan were dual citizens, primarily with allegiance to Afghanistan, which is why they were there in the first place.
Yea, this is a total BS right-winger lie. Too much Fox News and Newsmax rotting what little of your brain is left.
very wrong about the carrier . and he speaks about it with such great confidence
Ya he is an idiot its laughable
agree 100%
He enjoys the smell of his own farts a little too much I’d say.
Peter Z is great, don't agree at all about his assessment for why the carrier groups are there. If strictly hostage related, there's no reason for a carrier group at all being there at all. We'd fly in our hostage rescue units and likley have. Yes, carrier groups (plural...) are there as a warning to other enemies of Israel that the US will act if they do, and have already shot down missiles and drones headed for Israel.
A couple of points:
-Not sure if Peter knew this but there is a MEU/SOC with the carrier groups which consists of a lot of Marines and contingent of Marine special operations (and probably some SEALs or other special operations teams). I do think one reason the carrier group is there is deterrence because like it or not, we have to defend Israel bc if in the off chance someone takes Tel Aviv, they now have nukes and a bunch of intel that will set CIA and the rest of the 5 eyes back decades.
-That said, even if you didn't think deterrence is necessary, given the current situation i.e. hundreds of hostages, many locations they could be split up and hidden, and the fact Gaza is completely controlled by Hamas at the moment means IF they do attempt a hostage rescue it will be unlike any other. This is not like Iraq, Afghanistan, or Somalia where infils are as cut and dry as infils can be. It's possible they have to conduct many simultaneous operations and the carrier groups provide cover for large troop movements and also provide ample air support should things go sideways
-Additionally, Gaza is not the only potential hostage rescue mission that may be necessary, if the regional uprising continues to expand, may need to resort to drastic measures to get people out of countries and embassies - Biden doesn't want another Benghazi
-Lastly, given the potential for militias to get ballsy, all those ships provide protection to the operators and their support, for this mission, I don't think there is such thing as over kill or too many options
Delta force is already there so yea
@Arbiter710 I don't think the contract is still valid since a US Ambassador and others were abandoned. Peter is wrong about the prison camp. In a prison one cannot go shopping, visit neighbors or even go outside. Also cannot elect terrorists to govern you.
Does CZcams censor comments?
@@billmoretz8718they elected them in 2006 then Hamas canceled all future elections. But I agree with you on everything else.
"if it wasn't for the hostages, the US would have no interest in being there" is Peter effing high?
it is not about the hostages at all.
Yeah that's completely off , sometimes when someone thinks they know everything they start to be wrong because of ego
exactly something else is up@@birgittavanblitterswijk6998
He's a disinformation specialist.
I think he does live in Colorado these days.
“No matter what if you are a U.S. Citizen WE WILL COME FOR YOU” is completely untrue.
They came for me and then they came on me.
They came for me and then they came on me.
They came for me and then they came on me.
They came for me and then they came on me.
There’s one voice Peter loves, and it’s his own
A Carrier Group is a 200 mile "no fly zone" with a huge strike range. The Assault Task Group is what will act on a hostage retrieval. SEALs, command and control ships with the carrier group hanging out for air and sea dominance.
"Laughs in 13k mph anti-ship missile"
Our local news helikopter found that out when a carrier visited Copenhagen, the helikopter was politly told to get out of the air, if they did not want to be shoot out of the air. It was the most exiting thing that helikopter reported in months.
Compare Gaza and Singapore.
Uniquely tiny, densely populated areas astride global trading lanes.
Neither has natural resources.
Same population density.
One creates misery within and without.
The other, prosperity and peace.
Singapore isn’t being invaded and colonised for 75 years by Gods chosen people. They also have control over their own borders and waters.
one is free and the other one a prisoner.
gaza is astride a global trading route? egypt is. gaza not so much.
Singapore is somewhat more densely populated than Gaza. 6m+ people in 700 sq km vs 2m in 400sq km in Gaza. It’s the people that makes the difference. One is more interested to make more friends and money, the other is constantly scheming how they can kill jews and push them into the sea - even to the extent of ripping out water and sewage pipes and repurposing them to make rockets. If the people and their poor excuse for a government focus their energies on improving their lot, Gaza will not be in the sad state it is in today.
@@pantethine66One is a slave to Islam and the other one isn't
I was getting Backstreet Boys vibes there - “I don’t care who you are, where you’re from, what you did…” we will come for you. Lol
Don't agree Gaza lacks potential - in principle. It really could have been the Singapore of the Levant. Beautiful beaches and hotels, international airport, seaport, industrial zones, financial industry, etc. But that's not what Hamas wants.
You think israel will ever let that happen ? You think israel will even allow Westbank to thrive ?
Israel cannot make the decisions for the Palestinians.
Israel withdrew from Gaza back in 2005. Leaving behind an international airport, sea port, agricultural infrastructure, some industrial facilities. There were work and business visa for Palestinians. And not a single Israeli within Gaza.
After the withdrawal the Palestinians destroyed all the infrastructure and started to export terror. And somewhere in 2007 Egypt and Israel had enough and they started to place restrictions on them.
You got it all wrong but you are obviously not alone, Israel has no issues with a prosperous neighbour right on their border they only have problem with one that wants to destroy Israel, Hamas is pretty upfront about it.
“Open air prison….” Lol
3 million?? less than 2
.. that is actually a big mistake from someone who talks a lot about this subject
He's an amateur hack who is better at showmanship and sales than he is at actually researching the things he says.
Omfg, the very first words coming out of his mouth about hostages and hence why carriers are there just questions the rest of this interview.
Literally the schpeel you'd hear from someone down the pub
Could not agree more.
This. on the bright side he saved us the time of having to keep listening to him
Yup, wait until you get to his "Americans are totally self-sufficient with energy!" and all the experts who understand oil simultaneously face-palm. Peter is an entertainer and he knows it. He's milking it. I just heard him talk about Japanese and as an American living in Japan for several years I cracked up at how badly his punchlines contaminate anything he says of potential real value.
Guys an idiot
INCOMPENTENT ANALYSIS!
I enjoy Peter a lot, but the US has become increasingly apathetic in saving its citizens abroad.
If they’re upset by the prison camp conditions they need to get rid of Hamas and pursue a governing ideology that values peace
They were being murdered way before 1987 when Hamas came into power.
Earliest was 1948 when Israel was created, 15000 people murdered.
in 1948 they also had the wrong ideology. @@AM-fv1it
Yeah...I get tired of the "open air prison" nonsense.
"Work will set you free"
We all understand how clever you are but the reality is that if they had used all the aide they have been given to improve their lives and build and economy they would be living the way they do now...they chose killing Jews over improving themselves. n fact the first thing they did when Israel turned over Gaza to them was destroy all the infrastructure the Israelis left behind.@@Schlabbeflicker
Wasn't the Gerald Ford already in the Mediterrean before the Gaza-Israel issue kicked off on October 7th? Isn't there a different mission it was on from before the positioning off the coast of Israel?
Yes
Reagan 1980. Move to edge of patrol zone.
According to Peter, you can understand why Hamas does atrocities. Blocked
True. Not sure why people try to sympathize with terrorism.
I’ll join you on the block.
Its Fun to listen him, but to send aircraft carriers 2 of them for freeing the hostages is laughable wrong reason...😂 But you got to give the man credit for believing in what he is saying... 🤦
One thing for sure, right or wrong, Peter will make claims with certainty and great confidence.
I gotta admit the line about Saudi Arabia buying a nuclear weapon from Pakistan if Iran gets a nuclear bomb is something I never thought of but makes perfect sense.
the states wouldnt be involved in this if it wasnt for hostages? is this guy drunk
Israel owns the USA
Do you know why we allegedly left Americans behind in Afghanistan - why was that acceptable?
It was just Todd. Everyone was sick of him.
Poor Todd 😔
@@GungaLaGunga😢lol
Yea he’s way off on that melodramatic shot. There’s plenty of Americans out there in the world that aren’t getting military aid coming to their rescue
@@atix50 well, what can I say, he was a total jerk, so we left him there.
I love Peter but sometimes I think he is a little overconfident in his assessments. Enjoy the content tho!
Why do you love him, coz he just spews US propaganda? 😂
Making a fission bomb with U235 is not difficult and well within Iranian engineer’s capabilities. The hardest part of that process is the separation of U235 from U238 which they can do with their centrifuges. I don’t understand why he believes they can’t do it. He just made a blanket statement without any reasoning behind his claim and I find that very suspect.
Israel left Gaza in 2005 & dismantled all its settlements there, hoping to get peace in return that will exemplify for the rest or the palestinians the benefits of peace. instead, in 2007 Hamas took over & chose eternal war instead, so israel had to isolate it & try to buy it with better economy, but this as obviously failed, seeing the 7.10.23
6:30 : Also, when Egypt did have more open borders, guess who snuck in and caused trouble. Egypt also controlled the Gaza Strip at one time (1949-1967) but did not let Palestinians become part of any other ME country, including Egypt.
Damn he's good. More and more listening to Saagar and Krystal (especially Krystal and her hubby Kyle) the more and more I go elsewhere to get information that is more 'down to earth', not someone (either right or left) who has an agenda.
Pete is wrong about the carrier , the carriers are there as a message to Iran and Hezbollah , Don't even think about it !
Iran's already told Hamas that they're not interested.
It's the old principle echoed by Palmerston when the UK was the world-power, 'civis Romanus sum'.
"Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead"
Peter, in an ideal world, prison would be where the trouble-makers go. Prison is where you put people who've announced their intention to destroy you, and do violence against you. Gaza is not a prison- thousands of Gazans had work permits to travel into Israel. Now we know they gathered security information and maps used in the terrorist attack on Oct 7th.
When Gaza was under Israeli control, the economy was pretty good. When Israel got out, they left behind the entire infrastructure for an entire agricultural/floral export industry. The first thing the new residents did was destroy all the greenhouses.
The Palestinians are more concerned with committing acts of terrorism against civilians than they are about building a functional society. Through their hatred, their resentment, their violence they've built their own prison.
Yes, the Palestinians in Gaza are pretty screwed. Too many are consumed by hatred and bitter resentment.
Thank you for this
I can't imagine why right?
But why is that? Do you think they just woke up one day with this intense hatred?
@@Spectre-wd9dl it’s bcos they Snackbarred too hard. Saying it enough times warps your brain. Give it a go.
If you listen to G Man Pete over all channels you realise he is all hat and no cattle. Little bit of a glow in the dark kinda guy.😊 and that may well be " the entire story"
Lol...glowie's gotta glow after all. (4 Chan reference if anyone wants to do any research. Peter formerly worked at Stratfor which is basically the CIA retirement village)
in 1967, the US Carrier group also didnt want to get involved and they almost ended up nuking Alexandria after the Israeli's 'mistakingly' very persistently tried to sink the "USS LIBERTY".
Nuke Alexanderia???
Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach. Those that will say absolutely anything to seem smart, are called Peter "Chinas definitely collapsing this year" Zeihan.
In spite of all the hype Zeihan surrounds himself with, kudos to him for calling Gaza exactly what it is: *an open-air prison*.
At the very least...he Definitely has more writing material for future books.
Peter knows much less than he believes he does.
Talk bullshit and carry a big smile. The Peter Zeihan way.
Jack's volume is like 2 to 3 times greater than Peter, makes it a little difficult to listen to. Having to turn the volume up and down
Zeihan has the same message over and over again. If you're coming for 50 hostages, you don't need 2 carrier groups.
What u saying, if all US hostages are freed then US will call their Battleships back ? Hence they started with 2 US hostages ?
I've never seen a person in my life like this. Ever. This man sounds so cogent and confident and educated yet his analysis and prognostications are so preposterous and dare I say childish. I mean he's just clueless. It's hilarious.
This guy is total dope. We don't send in Aircraft Carriers for hostages. Those carriers are there for a larger purpose.
The problem is not Hamas. West Bank is not controlled by hamas but yet almost the same condition as Gaza
Much better living conditions on the West Bank.
The Iranian's nuclear engineers may not have the expertise to create a nuclear weapon, but Russia and their engineers do. And Tehran has gotten very cozy with Moscow since the Ukraine invasion.
True but don't be surprised if Russia cuts backdoor deal to get ukraine in return to leaving Iran in the dark. Anything is on the table when it comes to Iran. It just wont be obvious that Ukraine loses.
you sure underestimate the Iranians....the powerplay of Americans. Iranians just blunted Ukrainian offensive with supply of drones to Russia. The lack of street credentials of American elites and policy is so bad, i almost feel sorry. The coming days will be dark.
Actually, the Chinese helped them at some point but I think that stopped. Many of their missiles and drones have Chinese imprints all over them
Did I just hear "city flatteners"?
audio quality is woeful
yeah...Peter is wrong about the carrier...it's going to the med whether there are hostages or not.
That comment about Ian's inability to deliver a nuke, does not address the Iran-Russia relationship.
It is important that he is an analyst at Stratfor, the American ``shadow CIA''.
Peter is an entertainer and he knows it. He's milking it. I just heard him talk about Japanese and as an American living in Japan for several years I cracked up at how badly his punchlines contaminate anything he says of potential real value.
what exactly is your criticism of what he said?
It’s state dept propaganda, mostly fluff, with the same tired demography anecdotes sprinkled in over and over
@@EdBate For example, Peter said that Gaza was a "prison camp". There is not a single Israeli living or visiting in Gaza. Gaza is self-governed by Hamas. Hamas have been elected twice; I believe. Israel created a fence around Gaza after Hamas' terrorism became a feature. Thousands of Gazans work in Israel, daily. Gazans have access to Sinai thru the Egyptian checkpoint. Gaza receives Billions of $$$ every year. A simple google images will show a beautiful Mediterranean resort town along the Sea with thriving Hotels and beaches. Peter, who seriously recommends Al Jazeera as a credible source, is parroting terrorists talking points. He is just a Doom-and-Gloom artist or a Chicken Little Political Geographer - pick one...
@@gregorysheindlin2296 WHAT?! Gaza IS an open air prison, even the UN has used this language.
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If Gaza is an open air prison, the Arab countries are every bit as responsible for it as Israel, because they refuse to incorporate the Palestinians into their own countries. They've purposely kept the Palestinians locked down in refugee status for nearly a century to use as a cudgel against Israel. The open air prison argument is shit when the first thing that they do upon leaving Gaza is to go killing civilians door to door. The Palestinians have lost all moral high ground with such actions. I recognize the distinction between the Palestinians and Hamas, but it's a distinction without a huge amount of difference.
"open air prison"
nice of you to go there
Like Peter, and at least he's partially there. But Iran is very close to a weapon. US is there for more than just hostages. And Gaza is hardly a prison when people are entering Israel with work permits.
It's an open air prison because Hamas made it one...
The palestinians made it one, by voting Hamas into power.
Yes, and what does "prison" mean? The Pals can go anywhere they're welcome. Israel would like nothing better for all of them to "escape" to Egypt, KSA, Iran, China, or the far side of the moon.
Last sentence there was a little scary.
When he say that iranian engineers are not the world class to make a nuke he might be right i have no idea how that exactly there but the problem is that nowadays it became much more easy to build a bomb technology moved significantly ahead of Oppenheimer time. Now you need much less material to build one and it could be much smaller. They just don't need it that is why they don't have it yet.
Anyone who thinks the Iranians are stupid, is STUPID.
Two carriers are there for nine dual citizens? Is you kidding?
I think the USA are there to pretect there own people from there bases aswell. They have already been attacked. Stay safe 👊
I love how PZ feels like he's so sexy when he says "we will come for you" in different videos knowing zero about middle east problem... "if not for the hostages US had nothing to do with this situation"
Oh
My
God
That might be an understatement📷😀
But if I wrong but if I am right says nothing lol
Gorgonzola Lira? ...left behind!
The US is there to secure any/all nuclear weapons from getting into the wrong hands if the situation arises
Peter: Hamas ran West Bank = Open Air Prison ..... But wait, what about Hong Kong = The most densely populated, super productive, and peaceful population. Hmm, it makes me think something else needs to be part of the conversation.
What an utterly idiotic analysis. I always suspected that Mr. Zeihan is more of a showman than an analyst. Now I have the proof.
GAZA WAS A WONDERFUL AREA TO LIVE & PEOPLE WERE VERY HAPPY BEFORE THE INVASION FROM ISRAEL.
Gaza shares a border with Egypt. The rafah crossing. And yet, no one is blaming Egypt for not bringing food or supply to their Arab brothers. Strange...
4:31 Petes face.
Mad
Isn’t this the same guy that said Ukraine would win? lol
He never said that. He thinks Russia failed miserably, and will continue fighting because they have to.
@@DontUputThatEvilOnMe He also "predicted" that the Ukraine would cut off the water supply to Crimea by damming up the Dnieper - except the Ukrainians had already been doing that for years since the annexation of the peninsula and most people believe Zeihan took the idea off a CZcams documentary published literally years ago. Zeihan is a charlatan only stupid people who know nothing follow.
Russia for sure, 100% lost the first faze of the war. Putin himself said it would be a 3 days operation and here we are almost 2 years later
Repeating the “open air prison” lie 🤨
How is it a lie ?
It is literally an open air prison
And Isreal even controls the only crossing between Gaza and Egypt
Evidence? If it weren't controlling it then the trucks that carry food and fuel for power generators would go to Gaza as they were
But now Isreal prevents them from doing so
the irony there is, i bet you repeat plenty of israel's lies. its an open air prison bro. make a counter argument
the irony there is, i bet you repeat plenty of israel's lies. its an open air prison bro. make a counter argument
He can't except say it's a lie
There is no logical counter
Peter Zeihan has clearly been drinking too much Peter Zeihan before he went on the air. ;-)
This simply isn’t true
We left Afghanistan and left Americans
Open air prison - it looks like Cairo. But yes there’s a wall.
Peter is correct here.
"Nu-que-lar" yes. That is EXACTLY how you pronounce the word: nuclear...
If a Roman citizen was arrested in a foreign land (like Judea) he could go over the heads of the local authorities by saying "As a citizen of Rome, I appeal to Caesar". Then he would have to be taken to Rome, for trial. U.S. Citizenship does have it's privileges, today If you are taken hostage, the U.S.A.'s forces will come looking for you.
This is not true. You do not send 2 aircraft carriers for hostages. Plus more are on the way.
Peter Neihan studied in the University of Otago at one stage in his life, good on ya, Peter.
that's funny--this idea that if you're in trouble overseas, the US govt will help. I've had plenty of US executives tell me the that if you're ever in trouble overseas, don't bother going to the US embassy. They're useless. You're actually better off going to the Canadian embassy. Don't know if that's the case, but interesting.
@@A_R_B_G good to hear
I like when Americans are experts in everything in the world! Lol
Funny thing about Americans is that they usually have so little to say about the empire they have, while the rest of the can stop going on and on about empires they've lost.
@@ericdavis1660 I usually leave them to dream on! The most uneducated, ignorant and arrogant people that I’ve seen in the western world!
Peter is missing a key piece of the driving force here. Israel is committed at any cost to not allow Iran a nuclear arsenal. That is their existential threat. The US may not know it yet but they are being walked into an Iranian nuclear capability strike at the end of this.
There is no Iran's nuclear arsenal and there will never be.
Iran, for hundreds of times, said that producing nuclear weapon is against their national interests, and religion.
@@RTarzs😅😅😅
Really
@@RTarzs Iran says lots of things.
@@RTarzsThe Iranians are liars.
I am sure the US is well aware of this and have been watching it closely. There's a reason they are repositioning so many of their forces in and around the middle east.
It is so unfortunate that the Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat made the decision to not signed the peace accords with Israel (which were negotiated by Bill Clinton) in the late 1990s. Under that plan, the Palestinians are going to be given significant chunk of land, financial assistance international recognition, the ability to stand up a formal army, and would’ve been on a path to nationhood. Instead, Arafat decided that it wasn’t enough and he wanted the entirety of the land of Israel instead of just the chunk that he was offered, and so he decided to reject the entire thing and now we have the situation that we live with today.
Is it true the the palestinians rejecting a two nation state solution 5 times since 1948?
Genuine question. Couldn't countries, as big as Iran, take in these 2M Palestinians, on a stretch of uninhabited land (which I presume there is a lot of), and give them at least a new opportunity?
Or would that go against Iran's ultimate goal of destroying Israel? Is the fight for Jerusalem, a couple of thousand years in the making, still very much alive?
so you can take Palestinians land yeah no im sure you will say the same thing if you are in Palestinians shoes
@@kooratime1097 Actually, they already gave the answer further in the talk. Palestinians are primarily Sunni, while Iran is mainly Shia. They actually think of each other as apostates, so that would never work.
That said, it's better if they had a place where they could have a chance at life, instead of staying in this "open air prison" as everyone calls it. At some point, you either acknowledge there is no solution and you look for an alternative, or you can do what Einstein called insanity, the same thing over and over and hope for different results...
Egypt occupied Gaza for over twenty years, then bailed....sealing their border. They want no part of them....nor does Jordan, or Lebanon. That should tell the world something. Read Genesis 16:12.
yeah taking in and displacing 2million people is pretty simple...
“Palestinian land”? Ever heard of the Old Mishuv? Those Jews who NEVER left the land that was Israel in ancient time? The ones the Cassius Dio wrote about after the collapse of the Bar Kokhba rebellion in 137CE? The ones who wrote the Talmud Yerushalmi around 300CE? The ones living in Galilee over one thousand YEARS before the first of the ancestors of the “Palestinians” were expelled from Damascus in the Fourteenth Century CE? Those people that have an over five thousand YEAR historical claim to the land? The “Palestinians” are nothing more than squatters. WHY will no Arab nation open its doors to the “Palestinians”? Publicly, they say it’s to prevent Israel from expelling them ( never mind that nearly 1 million Jews were expelled from North African and Levant Arab nations after 1948). In reality, no Arab nations wants the “Palestinians” in their countries because they are a destabilizing force. All you have to do is look what happened to Jordan and Lebanon to understand this.
even a kid knows that u don’t send 2 carrier groups to rescue hostages.. PZ .. be truthful
4:49 "'..prison camp....''; STRATEGIC COMMUNICATION; Interviewing Peter Zeihan's handler would be a journalistic coup.
I dont agree that haza never had a chance to be anything but a prison. Gaza could have been a blossoming area of business, agriculture. Israelis had growing houses when they lived in the area, and the gazans have a beautiful coast. In the 70s israelis used to go shop in the markets and visit the beaches. And they've had so much money given to them they could have made themselves Dubai. Hamas openly said just now that they have no interest in providing for civilian Palestinians nor have they ever. Hamas embedded themselves in the population , educated a generation of juhadists, and then were shocked that life there is terrible. Now the israelis have to finally clear out the messy infection that any nunber of entities could have taken care of, something they didn't want to do for 30 years because of the lives it will cost on both sides.
So that's why so many of them keep a dual citizenship, huh?
So BHO brings them here
Except Bengazi
Open air prison? If they wanted to be a tourist hotspot or work in Israel...
When someone says "open air prison" I know he is stupid on the subject.
The fact the Zeihan calls Gaza 'an open air prison' shows his ignorance about the situation.
The only thing I agree with from this charlatan is that there is no future regarding Gaza. That ship has sailed.
good interview
Gaza is a small place. Just move them to Oklahoma. It even has more water.
So Peter why didn’t they keep farming the land Israel left behind and why haven’t they built energy infrastructure with the 6 plus billion that other countries give to Hamas on a yearly schedule?