The Cartel Gunfight in the Foothills of Silicon Valley
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- čas přidán 7. 05. 2024
- On the upcoming episode of Borderland, an IRONCLAD Original, Vince Vargas sits down with Lt. John Nores (ret.), a former Game Warden Spec Ops sniper to discuss how far into American Mexican drug cartels fan established footholds.
John's latest book, Hidden War, 2nd Edition, is out now: www.johnnores.com/hidden-war.html
The full interviews drops on Monday.
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Armed cartels are trafficking all over CA, and the govt is far more concerned about disarming law abiding citizens.
NAILED IT
Cartel grows only minutes from some of the wealthiest communities in America no less.
The CIA has left the chat.
@@BillyraycyrusIII you wish lmao the cartels are their pride and joy, they're definitely keeping a close eye.
In the wealthy community….
Some of the memebers of those wealthy communities also demand some magic powder.
😂@@elguerokabron
The Cartels are becoming ever more deadly and powerful. People fail to realize the Cartels are made up of elite-trained former personnel of the Mexican military. If a person wants an idea what the Mexican government is going through in fighting the Cartels, imagine if the Los Angeles, El Paso, Houston, or Phoenix Police Departments had to serve arrest warrants and take on 60 members of the 101st Air Borne Div, or 60 Marines of 1st Marine Div. along members of the various Special Operations Command units.
That would not end well.
As I have said before, we need to stop thinking the Cartels are some Mexican version of Michael Corleone or Tony Scarface, or Tony Soprano or some some Central American version of the Bloods or the Crypts. We are beyond the gang/mafia comparisons. We need to think of the Cartels as cohesive, disciplined, elite-trained military units, because that is what they are.
Mike - thats a very interesting aspect and aligns with my own comment above - fight fire with fire. Would Trump get support to gear up on home defence ? Australia
@jamesrebbechi5247 So far no. Trump had considered it before, but backed down.
Yeah at least some of us get it. I grew up in a gang neighborhood. Thinking these guys are like the Bloods and the Crips is hilarious. They are more like the super villains in Bond movies.
The Taliban have taken out our most top elite, not to mention that all those precincts combined have more men and I’m sure a good majority have an extensive military background do there is that.
Maybe they are elite by gang banger standards. They aren’t elite any sense of the word as it applies to legit elite military units like US Special Forces.
Not to down play the danger of the situation, and step on anyone’s ego. FNG had no business getting involved in gardens back then. This was mission creep by that agency because some of them got tired of asking people for fishing licenses, and wanted to play tactical. And dude, they aren’t your deputies they are the Sheriff’s. The mopes working in gardens aren’t cartel guys, yes there is a connection, but they aren’t the hard core guys you are telling people they are. It’s like saying the guy who mows the White House lawn is in the secret service.
I TOTALLY AGREE
Vincent another great interview especially knowing you seen a few things 👏🏻👏🏻thank you 👏🏻👏🏻
The border is a front line that is ignored
The border? They've been allowed to infiltrate the whole country.
All for weed that should have never been illegal. Now fent and other stuff needs to be destroyed.
Well the reason fentanyl is so prevelent is because the cartels pockets got hit with weed legalization so they started pushing actual poison.
Understand just because you legalize something such as a cannabis that there will not be a black market demand with a criminal element protecting and profiting from it! Why, the state and federal taxes! Organized crime groups will have a product just as good and cheaper! So legalizing cannabis will not eradicate the criminal gang profiting! I would venture to say when this shootout occurred cannabis was fully legal or severely decriminalized in California!
@@MTG9878 incorrect. This so-called shoot out happened in 2005. Cannabis wasn’t legalized in California until 2016 by proposition and ballot measure. Get your facts straight before commenting on things that you don’t understand.
@@MTG9878Nice dissertatio but extremely misinformed which generates incorrect statements
Currently, weed is legal in California. What are the gangs and cartels doing? They are selling it for cheaper on the “black market”
Additionally, they are buying out or destroying the competition. Forget illegal drugs, this trend continues with tons of products and services. Real estate, agriculture, etc.
Some large departments offer no security from organized, violent people. Officers are on their own, unless they're connected. In Sonoma Co, authorities raided grower areas, leaving MS13 grow and meth compound completely alone.
They are very Smart 🤓
I had NO IDEA
Just watched it. Wow however the issue of the FMJ steelcore was a blessing if loaded w Soft points be different or worse
In response, California decriminalizes it, then TAXES it at such a high rate, the cartels are still competitive. We should have learned from alcohol prohibition. If there is a market, it will happen. The only question is the cost, in $ and lives.
Was that the Fremont area or further out toward Stockton?
So that's where we can find them? Thanks for the info.
i remember this guy from the Nat Geo Game warden show.
It was pretty educational.
Mmmmmmm I live in that area I’ve never heard cops getting shot in a drug bust this is really hard to believe man
Why die over weed
What happens to the general public if they stumble across this, that's why you take the fight to them. People disappear all the time, for unexplained reasons in rural areas and this is one of the reasons.
Because it’s a short step to anarchy when they control the citjes
Because they are mercenaries maintaining the status quo
Time to end the prohibition on cannabis
@@zzzxxzzz3248 that won’t stop cartels. The govt will tax it and the cartels will sell untaxed weed ,they do in Colorado
Gotta love wide open borders!👌🏽
This administration is out of control…
I don't think Biden was president in 2004...........
This administration is funding these Cartels and enabling them to spread Fentanyl et al
@@thomasmikel3566 Sure isn’t helping now that he is either. The point being. This conversation involves cartels having gunfights with federal law enforcement in the foothills of CA in 2004. How enormous do you think that problem might be now with wide open borders?
@@WesleySnipes3568 it's a problem that will continue to get worse. I understand the context of the original post. But neither party is committed to stopping illegal immigration. You have extremely large corporations literally bussing people in to work in their plants. Those business owners are not all democrats. Two wings, one chicken.
If there weren't a profit motive on Marijuana then this wouldn't happen.
If it was as cheap as garden tomatoes, then none of this would happen.
Hicks Road, Los Gatos, California.
Wait a minute . . . is this guy's name Lt. Joh Nores, or is it Dave Paulides? Nores and Paulides look and sound like the same person.
Remember, those AKs, etc are illegal. Clearly those criminals are following the law. They ought to.
Game Wardens have more rights than an officer, they are basically a federal police for forests
One of the unintended consequences of decriminalizing weed is when the cartel members get arrested and processed they come right back and do the same grow operations in our national parks. Many of these people get arrested numerous times with no jail time and the cartels know there are no punishments with any teeth
Ya suppose we need some snuff squads off the radar? outside the box folks.
Three hours for a medevac? You couldn't have brought in reinforcements and a chopper from San Diego?
He’s full of shit
Bay Area, silicon valley, northern Cali. not San Diego, southern Cali.
That would have added hours to do that with in flight fueling for a chopper
This is beyond beating a dead horse we are beating dust against satan. As much as the book of Jude read that " Michael derst not bring a railing accusation against him but said the Lord Jesus rebuke you." I admit it is hard not to see that this demonic devil and his followers are allowed to do what they do. But I hold fast to what he says that he is Lord of all and he will face judgment .Amen .
Remember when this happened
Stop taking all drugs, tell your friends.
If the greedy prudes would have deregulated it completely and given it to the people, no-strings-attached, it would lose all street value and no longer be a prized commodity to be smuggled or protected. It should be an industrial crop.
It's always worth something if anything these foreign entities take the money to there country we're it's worth more it's totally invading our country in Japan the government supports Yakuza to keep our foreigners
Not to minimize the story, because any gunfight is a potentially scary deadly encounter. However, these growers weren't the hardcore cartel gunman that exist in the Plaza's in cities in Mexico. These are most likely migrant farmers either getting paid, or their families in Mexico are being threatened or both. Again, I am not minimizing the problem. I am sure because of the firearms, the US Attorney would be interested in prosecuting. But baring firearms, if you find growers just growing Marijuana, good luck getting a prosecutor to do anything.
How about arresting assholes . Drugs being illegal cause this. Just make people accountable for their actions.
I hope the military and our vigilantes are on the same page
I thought guns were illegal in California?
The drug war
Those poor, poor dreamers. They just wanted a better life, ese. Correct?
Who doesn't want a better life ? Bloody Wanker 😅 am I right?
Cartel shouldn’t be here but for get weed go after something worse
How about the distribution centers. Home depot be having them paisa with all the meth.
Hear about it? Nobody has heard about this.
Over Weed
All this over a newly scheduled “drug”
Night op with NODS.
They got them too
What does the state think? Aren't drugs legally grown their.
Problem is the Drug Cartels are more then just about Drug Trafficking. One can argue at this point the term "Drug Cartel" is a misnomer as the Cartels have expanded into all sort of businesses and activities, both legal and illegal.
Not back then. It was 2005.
It still happens. The states tax the living daylights out of it. Illegally grown weed is cheaper and easier to get. The idiots who thought by legalizing weed would stop Jose the pusher on the street corner are just that, idiots. And every doper and sympathizer are right there with them.
@@MoellerMike1977 Totally right. They are into legitimate corporations, agriculture, finance, politics etc. The entire Mexican government goes in fear of the cartels. The government exists at the pleasure of the cartels
Decriminalizing cannabis will not get rid of black market demand! Cartels grow a product just as good and cheaper! State and soon federal tax skyrocket the price! Legalizing cannabis believing it will get rid of the criminal element completely false!
I never heard of this. You would think Fox News would jump on this.
Fox News is a bunch of out of state conservatives. Out of state conservatives pride themselves on despising California citizens and their real life problems. The usual BS copout "answer" they give is "U voted for that".
I'm a native California Conservative, and I didn't vote for any liberals, OR a foreign narco insurgency.
Stop helping Ukraine, help your own goddam citizens here in the US who have an ongoing armed foreign insurgency going on.
Fox is compromised.
Weed 😱😱😱😱😱
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Despite these guys being the ones who contact these people they are very out of touch about what actually happening......
Another reason to end the prohibition on cannabis .
Orange County California Santa Ana Westminster Garden Grove all of them backyard grows over 60 plants per grow upwards of 100 + going crazy and Grandma's backyard all illegal making gangs of money here
Gavin is sure going to be upset, with you guys. Here you are, disrupting his reelection funds.
Game wardens? 😂 cartel wardens? Lol these governments now days 😂
Quit it DEA Let it go to rest and save yourself Thousands of funds and quit holding on to this dead horse
All for weed lmfao
But, but, legalizing weed was supposed to stop all of this! This is why I hate dopers.
This was 2005. It wasn't legal then
alcoholics are annoying, but I don't hate them 🗽🏹🪶🦅
all over some plants?
i really mean on both sides why guard plants with guns and why raid a grow with guns? im not a fan of the cartel or drug cops.
The portion of our population that insists on profiting from, glorifying and or using illegal drugs are to blame and have blood on their hands. Thank you 60’s for making this all mainstream.
Show me where in the constitution the founding fathers made drugs illegal. Remember the same people behind the DEA are the same people behind the NFA. The only thing prohibition does is create a criminal class .
You mean the FBI?
You have it backwards. Organized crime in the US like the Mafia got it's start through prohibition. Enormous profits were there to be made by people that needed no special skills or training or education, just the willingness to break the law and risk prison time. But the money made it worth it to a lot of guys. That's how the Italian mob first made it big. Prohibition raised the price of alcohol so much it was really a subsidy for organized crime. The so called war on drugs is identical. It has transformed a bunch of poor, donkey riding, Mexican mountain farmers into a global power that controls the entire Mexican government. They control governments along Central America too. They do legitimate business and illegitimate business. And for God's sake don't imagine for one second that they haven't infiltrated US police and Border Patrol just like they have down south because they have and that is the most dangerous thing to our country that there is. Law enforcement that can be bought. They know from decades of experience almost everybody has a price. And it's Plata o Plomo. Silver or Lead for you and your family. Your choice.
@@bryanbrowning9294if there is no demand the business shuts down.
Jerrys mixing Pears, Peaches and Baked Beans. You are as much to blame as anyone else unless youve never voted D or R, because both parties along with the FBI, DOJ, and CIA have been financing drug manufacturing and importing narcotics into this country since the days of Lucky Luciani smuggling boy with carte blanche as a reward for helping us through the Italian mountains.
Thank your local pot smoker for creating the demand.
FTP
Leave the pot growers alone.
These are cartels not American growers did you not listen
Try growing up in Juarez. You’d become a real man here
Can you expand upon your experiences and what you have learned?
Simply google “Ciudad Juarez in 2010” it’ll provide you with a glimpse of what living in terror looks like; During that time, Juarez was the murder capital of the globe, with a life expectancy of 25 years of age. There were better chances of survival as an American soldier in the Middle East, than there was for civilians in Juarez Mexico trying to live a regular life.
Thank JOE BIDEN!!!
lol this has nothing to do with Biden this has been going on for years.
This was 2005. You'd be thanking George Bush Jr. with that logic. But you really ought to thank the war on drugs for transforming some poor donkey riding Mexican mountain farmers into a global cartel producing countless billions of dollars in legitimate and illegal revenue. That's what the war on drugs did.
Agreed. Reclassifying Marijuana to a Schedule III will help decrease the senseless violence brought on by Nixon and the Controlled Substances Act. Thank You President Biden.
This is on Governor Newsom and Governor Brown. Now, home delivery of your drug of choice in SOCAL. Some counties are absolutely unable financially for their Sheriff's Dept to police what is largely federal and state lands. Toxic chemical, stream diversion, and killing of game go with the drug grows. No tax on illegal drugs, legal marijuana growers cannot compete. This is happening in the forests from the souther border to the border with Oregon. Bless the Game Wardens!
This happened in 2005
Blah blah
Why you busting Marianna grow sites who cares
Picture this, I am out with my friends during deer hunting season and we are out with our rifles on public land. Who do you bump into? Cartels illegally growing pot, they see you and obviously don't know you are law enforcement or not so they start shooting their weapons at you which likely have full auto and have high cap mags. This is an actually realistic concern why folks are scared to hunt/fish on public lands in CA. This guy speaking who used to be a game warden would be the fish and wildlife law enforcement that would have jurisdiction and would have to deal with this. Shit is scary, I want my country to be safe to enjoy for others and myself.
The rule of law!
A Lil bit of weed. Come on
Way to go ,Chad. Showing your smarts again.
How about that "little bit of weed" be grown by US citizens and not some F'd up cartel from a foreign country?
Lame warden
Game warden is suspect
last year we went hunting and didnt get anything due to lack of prior planning and scouting the terrain and understanding how the local deer operated in the area aka sleep, food, water. so we missed the deer I suggested we go in a month earlier and survey the area before all the other hunters arrive to understand the deers routes and bedding area so we could go in on one night setup up and ambush the deer on their way to the water hole. however I was told using all this fancy equipment and Ideas was illegal when hunting deer so maybe you use it on the cartels instead. Long story Short I wasnt leading that hunt hence why we didnt get the deer. Dont get why mofos call it a hunting trip when they be camping the whole time.