ASUS ROG Ally X eGPU 1440P Docked Mode Gaming, Handheld To High-Res
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The new Asus Rog Ally X is here and in this video we test out USB4 eGPU Docked mode gaming with a Radeon RX 7600M Xt in the ONEXGPU! With this setup you can play AAA PC games with the ROG Ally X at 1440P!
Can the ROG Ally X handle AAA titles at 1440p? We put it to the test with a powerful USB4 eGPU setup featuring the Radeon RX 7600M XT! See if docked mode gaming on the ROG Ally X lives up to the hype.
In this video:
* ROG Ally X Docked Mode Performance with USB4 eGPU
* Benchmarks for popular AAA games at 1440p resolution
* Is the ROG Ally X + eGPU combo worth it for you?
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Unfortunately It ssems I was not allowed to show off FPS performance yet due to embargo so I had to blur the FPS
Please test a variety of GPUs in an eGPU dock with the Ally X (to show bandwidth scaling) - it's so hard to find any reliable data of it.
Am a bit of a newb. But getting back into the gaming scene with my son.
I'd like to ask what monitor you would recommend and / or TV. I'd like to dock it to our living room TV.....
Thanks for your content, broski.
Probably the company like Asus ROG they probably knew they didn’t trust you so probably you got sued knowing you got yourself in trouble knowing you show the FPS counter so that’s how the customers know they’re not gonna buy it so basically you probably ruined it for me. I saw the FPS Connor I know, but I probably cannot show more information about it some people solid and some people didn’t solid.
@@xrpkidotec520 bro it’s not a TV it’s a gaming modern and that dog is using is the EGPU basically he’s using external gaming, modern or plug-in directly to one XGPU you make me laugh. Hey it was a mistake.😂
@Russiangamerpro2021 Yeah, I know it's a gaming modern. My question was, can it be used on a TV. I'd prefer to set it up on a smart TV if possible instead of a monitor or modern.
Can't that device we used on a TV as well. Jeez, how doesn't the question make sense.
Can you compare the OG Ally with XG mobile vs Ally X with EGPU? Will be interesting to see the performance difference, great work btw 👌
I still love my Rog ally, if I used it more I’d be inclined to get the X but I don’t it’s just a if I fancy playing outside the computer room in the house kinda thing
bro there is MOD to your current ally, just change 16 to 32gb of ram and you have more powerfull than this 24 gb of ram, of course there is less battery but if u use it docked....
Black Friday 649 and I’m sold 😂
I’m gonna put some money aside in case this happens 😅
If that happens then ill pick one up. The steam deck has been good to me. But sometimes running Linux can be a headache to get some games running
I wouldn't think black friday but christmas definately
I got a used Ally 1 at Bestbuy for $350 Ally X is not gonna beat my price 😂
another one comes out every summer tho it's the same cycle lol. I'm waiting til next gen, my OG ally is solid.
Great video but I prefer larger GPUs. Can you test a 4070 super vs other mid or lower end 40 series gpus to see which one to get. Don’t wanna get one that will get bottlenecked and over spend
I would love to see in the next video thatt you are using a rtx 4080. Would be nice to see if a handheld can replace a high-end desktop. And please show high fps games like cs, cod, etc and some games like cyberpunk in 4k.
I would like to see that too. Exactly how bandwidth limits look on something like an RTX 4080.
I think with 4080 level performance, you're probably better waiting for USB 4.2 device in a year or so (double the bandwidth of 4.0)
@@user-ds8rj2vc4v I think I will wait until they release a handheld with pci 5.0. would mean you could use a nvme to oculinik adapter or even have a native oculink port, which would be the same spped as pcie 4.0 x8 / pcie 3.0 x16
Unfortunately USB is the limiting factor. Oculink does a bit better but hopefully the next gen thunderbolt will have faster transfers
@@JADC1111
It's more that people want to see how much of a limiting factor it is.
@@user-ds8rj2vc4v From my understanding the fastest eGPU without bottleneck using TB4 is around a 3070. With oculink it’s closer to a 4080.
Your video timing is so good. I preordered the ROG Ally X and I was just looking into eGPUs on USB4. Thanks!
I think it would be nice if Asus sold a new adapter that allowed the proprietary port in the original Ally to be used with an external eGPU.
My Legion Go cost me $591 and I do not regret it. The best jack of all trades and for the money is excellent. I love it!
Me too man my girlfriend is jealous of it. 😂😂
snagged a similar sale on an ally. Can we talk about how amazing of a device these things are?! AMD is making some incredible tech. I mean... 60 fps triple-A gaming on 29 watts doesn't sound real!
My rog z1x was $450 thanks fb market and 2nd hand market lol
Good for you, I bought my Legion Go brand new for $591.
Every time I see video with it I see stutter fest
I am waiting for 890m apu next generation
YES
It’s coming
With a Steam Deck 2 please :)
Thats what most rog ally owners think.
The first rog ally is all ready powerful enough for any AAA game. Why do you need more than that??
It's still shoking that thunderbolt/USB in PCIE3 hang on for SO LONG
Like egpu concept is cool, with PCIE4×4 it can be actually good alternative to desktop.
Waiting for high end emulation video of the Ally X
Wasn't it already good on the regular ally?
@@SplendidNinja
This one has 24 gigs of RAM and different cooling so just curious
Cool way of showing us some benchmarks with the X, without breaking embargo. 😎
the X has been out for awhile, so there's no embargo.
rtx 4070 ti super egpu please, with cyberpunk and Forbidden west 4k test
Lol it'll run it.
I want to see that too because the GPU was at 99% in every benchmark really, so not showing what the USB4 is capable of.
Windows needs to make a version of Windows 11 that supports these devices with an interface. Having full blown Windows 11 on these makes it feel jank imo. Even when you are spending over a grand, you're still over here moving the mouse cursor with a joystick or tapping on stuff you can barely see to navigate. It doesn't need everything W11 comes with and you could just add "Desktop Mode" as a setting in the interface menu if you need to browse the web or download files. I honestly would prefer an AMD powered system in this form factor, just to have to option of running SteamOS Linux distros. I run Windows on my main system for the benefits, but I wouldn't want to deal with any of that on these. I just want to turn it on and pick a game. That's why the Steam Deck is still the best imo.
Would be really interested in seeing the original Ally and XGM comparison with this
They should at least come out with a windows 8-like update for handhelds once their xbox console drops
Closest I can do is install LTSC on my Ally because my Steam Deck OLED failed the Fortnite test (Anti-cheats hate Linux unless they switch it on to work for Linux.) :(
You can use the touch screen. I have no problem seeing things on the screen, I run everything at 720. No issues using the analog for the mouse either. You can just use steam big picture if it's that hard to see. This was designed for gaming first above using it as a PC
It’s really easy to make windows 11 as the backend pc mode while have an Xbox like launcher as the default boot frontend but Microsoft is purposely saving it for there dedicated hardware first I believe
good to see that handhelds are getting better and better. I still wait for more ram as I use quite lot video editing as well but as soon as they will get into the 32+ ballpark, I'll really consider to replace a laptop to a smaller and even more portable device.
I just ordered the onexplayer x1 AMD. 32gb of ram, VRR.....ETC Fucking thing a beast
@@robertsmith20022 yeah I also checked OneXPlayers, but smething was always off for me... either the design or the power... this x1 is too big for me as handheld
@@robertsmith20022 Is it viable as a main device for Windows?
We are gonna be bankrupt with this one😂
I pre-ordered mine already, im buying the egpu, too. I get some people can just build a gaming PC for the same price, but try throwing a PC in a backpack for on the go.😂
Same, but i might do the GPD g1 instead
Imagine throwing a laptop in a backpack. About the same weight less weight. Do like this for home use to quick swap kind of like a switch
It can be connected to the GPU using a single USB4 cable. A small console and a small GPU.
Great.
The eGPU, if you already have a GPU, works great thru USB4.
Could you make a tutorial on how you installed the drivers for egpu? Im still struggeling a little with my Legion Go + Onexgpu. Had to install the 780m drivers. Would be better with the Z1 Extreme drivers tbh
I'm sad we still don't have Thunderbolt 5. I was hoping Lunar Lake would have TB5 integrated especially since it also has memory on package with DMA the latency should be greatly reduced.
Glad to know ASMedia is working on their discrete controller. I don't know when we can expect Intel, AMD and now Qualcomm will integrate TB5 and USB4 V2.
Handhelds really need that extra bandwidth to make docking a viable gaming setup.
I think the eGPU doesn't make a lot of sense for gaming handhelds. You already paid $800 for the ROG Ally X, okay performance for docked and on the go gaming, but then you want to spend another $700 for an eGPU?
If this is your primary PC, then it can be justified, but if you have a desktop or laptop, most likely no. I don't imagine many users using the ROG Ally as their only computer.
2nd this, $1500 could give a decent gaming PC even complete with peripherals
You are right, I made this mistake and at the end of the day i trade it both for a gaming laptop. Too many hiccups and driver issues.
😂
@@nahrafe1500 for decent is insane for 1500 that pc better transform into Optimus Prime
some people just prefer the "plug and play" nature to it
Would like to see 4070 in egpu. I would expect most people would want to run that
Thanks 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 was hoping you would test this. 🎉
I'd like to see comparisons between the Ally X and ROG Ally e-gpu performance.
I'd also like to see a some of the more budget friendly RTX cards be tested : 4060 for example.
Great video. What's the benchmark embargo end date?!?!?
Usually the day of launch
Please test some pci 3.0 card (rtx2060s) with sony (worst offenders in memory swap) titles to see how much of a bottleneck there is with the limited bandwith! To improve performance with those games you need to get textures to a lower presset and/or lower the resolution.
Also with be great to see a frametime graph in the overlay, this way is easier to spot stutters and be shure is not some youtube playback issue.
I want to see this eGPU go against the XG 6850m XT
Hopefully, they can figure out a better solution in general , i would love to see a handheld with an oculink OUT with an hdmi IN that can bypass the screen while the handheld is still running. So you can use an egpu in a closed loop with the built-in screen with no perf loss. The minisforum v13 tablet almost has this, but the unit has to be powered down to use the built in screen as a secondary monitor.
The main problem with these devices and peripherals is that they cost so much more than they ought to.
That eGPU contains a $235 GPU that’s power-limited and performs worse than its’ desktop counterpart. It costs what? $800?.
The Ally X has the same overall components and screen as the original Ally (but they fixed the sd-card issue) and gave it 8gb more, and very-slightly-faster RAM.. for $799? For 5% better gaming performance, a black shell, different back buttons, and a functional sd-card-slot. I can go to my local Best Buy and get an OG Ally open-box for $350 and it’s going to perform within 5% of the X for almost 1/3rd the price.
Utterly overpriced and ridiculous. Even if I like the product I can’t justify the price.
The GPU wasn't power limited in this case - we saw it hit 99% benchmarks in almost every test.
Regarding pricing, you're comparing an old open-boxed model to a newly launched model. Of course it's more expensive. This time next year, the Ally X 2 will come out at £800, and the Ally X will be like £400 opn boxed.
The actual price of the Ally was £700. So for the extra £100, you get USB4 support, 2280 support, 8GB extra RAM, faster RAM and a 100% increase in battery life.
Can't wait for Linux OS Support on this from some of the bigger players, hopefully Valve adds external GPU support to the Deck 2.
It sucks that Asus got rid of the XG Mobile but since they are not making any more models that are cheaper than the 4090 Laptop GPU XG mobile, it was the right call to do to let people use their own eGPU.
A lot of people on here don’t understand the reason why people want a eGPU for their handhelds. More flexibility than a laptop while being more comfortable to use when gaming. The 7600m XT is a perfect complement to the ROG ALLY and be able to fully utilized the 1080p 120hz screen.
So you can use this device while playing handheld?
BD-1 Makes this video a masterpiece
Z1 Extreme isnt meant to be used beyond 1080p. The L3 Cache is 16mb which half of a older Ryzen 7 7700X which has 32mb L3 Cache.
L3 Cache and 3D Cache are for games (textures/video). The Z1 Extreme lose vs a old Ryzen 7 5800X3D in games with higher resolution and quality settings.
Would love to see this with Battlemage when it comes out as well.
Waiting for Rog Ally Z1 Extreme comparison.
It’ll be nice if you play VR games with your type of set up with the graphic card connected to a handheld cause I wanna see how much performance does a boost
I just bought a Razer eGPU enclosure and a Gigabyte RTX 3060. Would love to see how it performs with the X!
Did you experience any issues with the Z1 extreme display drivers after connecting to the egpu? On the Legion go, you needed to install the 7840u drivers for it to work correctly while connected to the oneXgpu and in handheld mode afterward.
Gonna wait for it Black Friday deals lol not gonna upgrade mine still good
799 ?
I'd wish there was a way for the OG Ally owners to hook up an external eGPU with a XG Adapter or something. I don't want to upgrade now, as i bought the Ally just a few months ago :(
OG Ally Z1E + XG Mobile 4090 vs Ally X + 4090 EGPU please?
The X will probably take a beating. The XG Mobile port has about 50% more bandwidth than USB 4, which is why I am perplexed at Asus here. This is not an upgrade.
I'm very interested in this setup, could you test with a RTX 2070 super or similar, if the perfomance is good I will consider this, also if you could test also productiviy tools like 3d renders or video editing, that would be great.
Hey, thanks for the video. I would like to see an eGPU test with a 4080 or 4080Super on 4K this time. Just wondering what the performance of the games will be. I have a gaming PC, but most of the time is turned off. So having a handhelp and a powerfull 4k fixed setup with the same device would be awsome. Thanks again for your videos, super helpful.
Can you do a tutorial for installation this egpu? I am so lost. Amd isn't working, onexgpu isn't worling. Idk what to do
@@GamerDan89 are u having trouble connecting to external monitor too? I got the ally x and onexgpu wit a asus monitor that won’t display anything
I got it working using a Legion Go video but the realtek drivers in the AMD download nuked my ability to pair bluetooth headphones . I hade to factory reset the whole thing to get my bluetooth earbuds to work. I wish this ETA Prime guy actually gave out specifics. @brandanwaldman198
Same with me.. do you have solution?
yes! Installing the amd driver for egpu, then deinstall the amd driver for the internal one, and reinstall it. Then it should work @@brandanwaldman198
I hope Asus changes their XG Mobile to Thunderbolt interface. It's perfect other than the cable.
Not worth it.
Especially with the way they treat their RMA customers
@@gridheader I bought an XG mobile on ebay that was listed as broken for parts for like 50+% off retail. Got it in and immediately sent it in for RMA. The day after I sent it, Gamers Nexus dropped their big Asus expose thing and my RMA got fast tracked and sent back with no issues. I'm sure they're still generally shit but lmao thank you GN for getting my RMA fast tracked
jUsT bUy A dEsKtOp
Just because you can’t afford it 😂 it’s a great device, rma this and that lol buy with a store warranty if that’s a concern 🤷♂️
@@gridheaderI'm from Romania and we don't have this problem, but I still thinking is not worth, because you can find the old one (extreme)for around 400$,and the new one is 900$...
Hi ETA PRIME!, can you run VR on rog ally x? (connect quest 2/3 by cable), is it possible, or if you see fit, can you do a test?, I imagine the eGPU would be able though, just thinking of the ally x alone? (thinking of having a portable vr gaming on the go, also with steering wheel and all because i play racing vr) THANKS for any answers!!! Awesome content!!, have a nice day1
Let me tell you without testing, no
Absolutely not. 2 2K+ displays running at over 70fps is way too demanding for most games.
You could but will it be a good experience?
Hey I have a rog ally z1 extreme had a quest 2 and played asseto corsa on damn near very low settings and got roughly 55-76 fps VR chat I got 19-34 fps but tons of stutters that made it too sickening I'm hoping the extra ram set the mark tho ❤
@@maxlu2456 Primitive games like Beat Saber and Superhot will play just fine.
looking good. I would like to see it run a 4060 or above. Also would like to see how well it handles the games normally and then with egpu.
Ally X is now Releas, can you update the FPS now?
Hi i want to know if is possible to play in 4k whit razer chroma whit a 4070 or 4080 rtx? Thanks
I definitely want to see a performance comparison between 4070 and 4090
I still believe the gpu docks are a waste of money.
Only worth it if you also have a Laptop to use it with
You can build a PC for less than this docking solution alone that performs on par... The product is a bit of a joke tbh.
@@LemonRush7777 that's the only legitimate use case I can think of. getting one for a handheld? what's next, a belt clip and a battery backpack? walking around looking like a wannabe Ghostbusters.
😂
Y can u elaborate
@@ibrahimbasamh2204 read the other comments. then post a few of your own
Would be more interesting to see the ally with the ROG XG Mobile eGPU
Which is the only reason to even buy an ally (X)
If Steam can somehow do this using Steam OS that would be just one of the best experiences for that Switch like experience.
Asus Rog Ally X looks so beautiful as a black colored version and I believe it's powerful, but with only Full HD without an Oled and as €950 what's too expensive price for PC Handheld gaming console I'll think it's not worthit, even €580 Steam Deck Oled is more worther because it's the King of the Handhelds in 2024! 😊
Sadly SteamOS since it is not windows is limiting my game selections. Also it only has 720p
Since they love OLED, if the deck didn't have it they would be crying, apparently it's the only thing they have left If this machine had it, I'm sure they would find something else to say which deck is the king.🤣
@@hongoid so could Full HD beat Oled?
@@Leopez02 VRR, 1080p beats 720p oled.
@@FierroSev ooh that's nice to hear, where is VRR
Great video! Can you also compare Ally X with 3070/3080 vs desktop with same GPU:s and i7 to see how much performance loss there is?
I'd love to see a 2080 super to see how it powers it in handheld mode. I have one in my desktop that's not being used right now and was looking at getting one of those razer enclosures to boost handheld performance while I'm at home and the kids are hogging the screens lol
Still waiting for battery life test compare to Legion Go
no need to compare since the ally x has an 80wh and the go has 49.2 wh (i own the go and its still great)
@@Bulbmin64 lenovo go 49w and it's less than sd lcd w40 I feel this device same as sd oled in bettery or even worse
@@evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 what are you saying the legion go and ally have a far more powerful chip and run windows, steam deck gets 2 - 8 hours about 1 - 6 (same with the go) we should have more battery than the steam deck on the ally x
@@evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 "feel"
Doesnt passing the dGPU's display signal back to the Ally's screen reduce performance? Why not just have the display off?
Can you do a comparison to the Legion Go?
I know it will be faster due to more RAM, but it should be an interesting video.
That setup on 10:11 is crazy lol. I want to bring that on the bus and see the reactions.
Yes it could work on my lap! Plus ther trains here have outlets a d some seats have a table.
that is stupid, wtf😂
Coming from someone that bought XG Mobile 4090 I have to say this isn’t worth it. I would love to see a comparison to a eGPU using a desktop 4090 through Thunderbolt 4.
Kindly do some test using the Nvidia eGpu graphic card. do you have the original 4090 eGPU specificially made for ROG ally?
I wish the Steam Deck had this feature...
XG Mobile 4090 still the best!!
Great video. Can you shared detailed fan settings?
Bought a used rog ally for 300 bucks for that cheap its perfect
I really wish you'd run benchmarks/tests without FSR.
ASUS just needs to get off their high horse and use oculink... I believe we need to make oculink more common for these handlhelds so they can be the ultimate desktop replacement.
Asus slides for the ROG X claim USB 4 V2 which should be tb4 compatible and should be able to do 80gps both ways.
We weren’t on our knees praying hard enough like our lives depended on it but we were lucky to be a lunch meal
Could you also check the video editing part of this? Like how does Premier pro or DaVinci Resolve works on this
i would love to see you test it with a RTX 2070 super or similar pls
Yeah I'm going to refrain from upgrading. As nice as the extra ram and battery are, I already got a really good deal on the xg mobile 6850m xt. More than half off retail due to it being faulty. RMA'd it and it came back fine. 6850m xt is faster than a 7600m so I'll just stick with that. Maybe there will be some way to get more ram on the base model ally.
I have a 120hz TV that also does VRR and 4K. Will it work with this handheld? Playing in 4K I mean.
Not worth it if they're not going to let people send it in to get fixed if it breaks which it probably will because they don't care to make them last
You should add intenal monitor testings as well. Not everyone plays on external monitor. :)
Its not that simple. If you play on the internal screen with the egpu you will get much worse Performance.
@@OG-ShortsYT I know, that's the point of testing. So people know what to expect if they don't use external monitor with that handheld + eGPU.
@@mariussm7797 ohhh okay sorry thought you dont understand anything about egpus
@@OG-ShortsYT it's ok. I wanted this because for example on my Legion GO with an GPD eGPU and no monitor I can get Cyberpunk at ultra ray tracing at 30+fps. So some work good without external monitor as well.
It would be worse performance, but also consider that it'd be running at a much lower resolution.
Rog Ally z1 basic on Moye Connect Usb hub with 87w pd has only 25w performance mode with original charger only was 30w tdp but than only with an external graphics 30w and up will be reached ... only a original dock would help like steam decks....
that Street Figher 6 looks like MK
I would love to see Ally X with RTX 4060 please
This is an expensive set up for what you get. I literally just sold my ally for$550 and got a lenovo loq laptop for $650 open box with a ryzen 7 7840HS and 4060 with 8gb ram and 512gb. But i upgraded the ram to 32gb and 1tb with the extra slot that it had inside.
They increased the price for Rog Ally x with 300$ while keeping the original ally at full price here in Norway.
What a joke, it is not worth 1100$.
The 2023 version have been on sale for 600 - 700$ several times already so Rog Ally X is definitely not worth it here.
The rog ally is worth it if you get the cheapest model used or open box, lower than 300 USD right now
Hey, do you mind providing details about the drivers used? I and a few others have an issue where once the drivers are side loaded it affects the ability to connect Bluetooth headphones and causes a blue screen. Thanks!
Now that you can post performance data, would you still recommend the OneX EGPU for ROG Ally X? Or is there a better solution. Thank you.
I like the idea of this but I think I would need 2 micro sd slots to consider this as a desktop replacement
rtx 4070 ti super egpu please
Zero word on the SD card reader? Really? Someone wants to keep receiving free stuff from Asus... Best RMA in the business.
hush hush🤫
Great video - your audio is always low
The author has sold his ass off to sponsors. He will never tell you the truth.
I would be curious to see how bazzite runs on this and if you can use the eGPU with it now that it's using a regular thunderbolt connector.
I hope the usb c doesn't get burnt out
As much as id love to see the x have a oled screen there not very great with text clarity and vrr is a must id rather just keep the same screen which is a great screen
Please try Snapdragon X elite with eGPU, and Linux as well
No driver support yet
why only smaller manufacter have oculink..... usb4 vs oculink have very noticebale difference especially when using multiple monitor
Can you say what the fps was now that the ally x is out?
..ASUS should release an XGmobile to USB4 adapter... for those with first Gen ROG Ally... 😅
XGmobile is a custom external PCIE port. I imagine Asus would need to not only build the adapter as nothing like that exists the OS would also need some special drivers to support it properly. I imagine it's cost prohibitive and not likely at all as sad as it is.
they should just use oculink and usb4 instead, more universal better performance, cheaper to setup
Gamers Nexus just went to their Headquarters to talk about their RMA Experience.