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DISCLAIMER: Throughout the video I use the word "cannibalism" to refer to what the survivors had to resort to to survive. I have been informed by multiple comments that the more proper term is "anthropophagy." I sincerely apologize if my use of the word cannibalism throughout the video is disrespectful in any way, that was not my intention. Thank you to those who have informed me of the other term.
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I am so proud that non-spanish speakers can get the point of this powerful story as you did, dude you had me on tears just like the movie did. Im giving you a hug right now.
It's a universal story, you don't need to speak their language to sympathize with them.
Some people, especially non speakers have been saying awful things about he movie and the fact that it's in Spanish @@cobrakaier238
i agree with you . Big hug also
@@cobrakaier238You would think, yet I wouldn't be quick to invalidate @MrSlamdung's statement because I've witnessed throughout the decades dozens of people (some of them really nice and good people) being able to sympathize, yes, but unable to empathize. Good for you for thinking that's just the human normal reaction, but there's a wide range in the humanity capability spectrum. (Pardon my English, it's my second language).
Numa's last message, which is actually something that happened and wasn't added for dramatic effect (Like him injuring his leg because he's kicking the windows of the plane) is a passage from the bible. Makes sense, considering he was a huge Christian devotee
JOHN 15:13
Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.
I didn't even catch that, thanks for letting me know!
Numa hurt his leg during the avalanche, but as you said, it was not because he cut his ankle trying to get out of the plane. And then came the ulcers on his back and the infections. 10 more days, that’s all he needed, so sad.
😭 I didn't know that. I am learning more and more beautiful things about the story itself and about the movie, too. Example: there's a scene where Numa is getting to his house (riding his bike), and a neighbor passing by says "goodnight" to him. That character of the neighbor was played by a relative of the real Numa; a nephew, if I got it right. 😭🥲 Bayona (the director) had tons of special details like that.
@@lauryb yes! there are many cameos. The real Nando opens the gates at the airport at the beginning, the real Carlos Páez acts as his own dad when he reads the names of the survivors and Roberto Canessa appears as a doctor during one of the last scenes!
@@minyrar7107 I think he did not hurt his leg in the avalanche. That was in day 16. He live 44 days more. I think he hurts later, as Roberto says. In one trip later.
You are a good boy. You have been moved by the film like many. For me it is the best movie of the year. No Barbies, no Ophemheimers, no pickled ostias. Congratulations on the video
Hello... I'm very grateful not only because you took the time to watch this movie but also be so open about how significative and an how it impacted on you... I am uruguayan so for us was a very well known story but is just so amazing... obviusly i wasn't there (I'm 22) but It was a such an impact in our culture that even 50 years after it happened we still talking about it...everything in SOTS is so respectful, to those who survived, to those who didn't make it and their families :)
I really like that this film changes somethimg inside us for all the good reasons
Such an experience :') ❤🇺🇾
I can imagine the impact it must have had on Uruguay. This film must've been so powerful to experience for the entire country given that it's such a well-known and deeply felt event in the culture. Thank you for watching the video!
Loved your video! I’m Uruguayan and I’m so glad people like you are appreciating the film and its message. This story is engraved in my country’s culture and this movie was the perfect depiction of what makes it so powerful.
I teared up with you here 🤍 You seem like a very genuine and sensitive person.
Thank you so much for your sensibility and empathy. I didn't expect an American citizen to react in such a caring way. Hollywood and the US tend to react to heroic figures and this movie is just the opposite.
I agree 100% with you, your feelings and your insights.
A big *THANK* *YOU* from Uruguay. You now have a new subscriber from the Southern Hemisphere. *KEEP* *UP* with your excellent work.
Thank you so much! I love cinema from outside the United States. It's some of the best cinema out there.
I mean this in a kind way, but Hollywood is not representative of the average everyday American, nor does it understand what they ("normal" American people) feel or want in life or in cinematic experiences.
I am in AWE with your review (in a good way). As an Uruguayan myself and knowing so much about the details of this real tragedy /event sometimes I am very sensitive when people comment about this movie as a "remake" of alive, like this is a made up movie. The recent reviews I have seen sometimes mentions the anthropophagism way way to many times as if that was the sole struggle they had or the only important part of their journey. This movie is actually much more humane than alive because is not only about the 16 that survived bot also about those who were there and didn't make it (29). And it also depict the beauty of the team work when we only have each other to rely upon. Remember these were kids, not men most of them were between 18 to 21 with no experience in survival, or alpinism or living in the wild. These were kids coming from upper middle class who had all the the things you have when you are 'spoiled" to put it in context. And what they did when faced with adversity? They got together as a team, as a family, they help each other until the end. And the people would normally said "What a horrible story".........But you my friend a young fella (19 years old ) realized the beauty of this event the beauty of a group of people come together, with god against the nature against the cold against the terrible situation and love each other and took care of each other. My congratulations Xaybeast you are and intelligent man. Cheers!! EXCELLENT REVIEW
You have no idea how much this comment means to me, thank you so much! I completely agree and love everything you said. Such a beautiful story of sacrifice and love.
As young as they were, they were people of faith, they said they felt God there. They never lost their Faith. Their families said they came back changed in an amazing way, talking about God all the time, full of mysticism.
There is a beautiful and emotional interaction between Roberto Canessa and a group of teenagers where one of them asked him how his relationship with God has changed since the rescue, to which he responds that it got contaminated by the society of the valley, but that there are times, when one of his patients is fighting for his life, that he prays to the God he met in the mountain, and you can see how emotional he gets in that moment. Roberto is a pediatric cardiologist.
Your review is absolutely beautiful, I can feel it is coming from your soul and heart and it shows a little bit of that mysticism that existed in the society the survivors created in the mountain.
Happy to see a review that is not focused on the plane crash or the anthropophagy. Not sure if you knew, but some of the survivors have cameos in the movie, the most noticeable is Carlitos Páez Rodriguez, who portrays his own father (Carlos Páez Vilaró) - he is the one that reads the name of the survivors in the movie, just like his father did in 1972. Carlitos was the youngest of all the survivors.
There is only one thing I disagree with you. We have a phrase at home that says: “los buenos somos más” or “we the good ones, are more” and I firmly believe this is true.
Keep it up, you are doing an amazing job! Congrats!
Anoche escuché a Nando Parrado en una entrevista donde con toda la emoción del mundo decía que a Roberto lo tiene en el pedestal más alto de la humanidad. Saludos desde Montevideo Uruguay.
Que maravilloso lazo construyeron, más allá de la amistad y el amor. Esos días en la montaña, solo ellos saben cuanto se tuvieron que ayudar, animar y salvar.
"Cuídense unos a otros" Al final todos necesitanos de los demas. La tecnologia avanza,pero nosotros como seres humanos no avanzamos ni pensamos en lo qie somos capaces de hacer por otro y por nosotros mismos,porque para amar a otros primero tenemos que amarnos nosotros mismos. Me impactó y llego al corazon tu video. Un abrazo desde mi pequeño gran país,Uruguay 💙🇺🇾
Great review. I was 5 years old when Flight 571 crashed. I actually read my father's copy of "Alive" when I was 8 (too young? probably) and twice after that. While I enjoyed the book and movie adaption of Alive, it was very matter of fact. To me, it just didn't communicate the emotional and spiritual aspects and the profound beauty of what happened. I could sense it it when I read Alive, but at best it was subtext. To be fair, Alive was written soon after the incident while Society of the Snow came decades later. Perhaps the survivors needed this time to process and express the deeper aspects of their experience. I feel like J.A. Bayona's film really does this story justice.
I couldn’t agree more, I loved how they captured the soul of their journey with this film. Thanks for watching!
I'm really happy you were able to see past the "morbid" details of this event that so many people like to hyperfixate on, to understand the true meaning of this movie about teamwork, companionship and most importantly, love. When I watched it a few days ago I had to take multiple breaks to cry my eyes out because of how moved I was and it really upset me when I saw other movie reviewers overlook the emotional and humane aspect of this story, so it's truly a breath of fresh air to hear your take on the subject. The part where you talked about thinking of who you would give up your life to in this situation hit me specially hard considering it's the same thing that went through my mind as I was watching. Human kindness and love are such fragile and wonderful things, so being reminded of them really makes you look at life from a different perspective ❤.
Thanks for this video, you are very thoughtful and respectful, this is the kind of respect and appreciation that not only this movie, but the survivors and deceased from this tragedy deserve.
I was honestly unaware that many reviewers were overlooking the true meaning of the film, as I felt that the film made it very clear that it wasn’t solely focusing on the brutality of the event but rather the beauty we as a society can take away from it. I didn’t watch any other reviews prior to making mine. I’m shocked to hear more people aren’t taking about the beauty and soul of it. For me, it was the entire point. Thank you so much for the kind words, as well! And I agree, these passengers, those that are still with us and those who sadly are not, deserve the utmost respect and honor when we discuss adaptations of their story.
It's an absolutely perfect film in every way
What's cool about the movie and the story itself is how differently each of the survivors dealt with the situation (but you noticed more of this in the Society of the Snow book). It was written decades afterwards and it was how these survivors interpreted what happened in the mountain. Some remember it as this grandiose occasion, as this achievement almost, some others forgot most of what happened, moved on with their lives, and thought it was simple survival and there was nothing special to what they did.
My own interpretation is that it's not so much love for others as the realization that as humans you can't succeed on your own and you need other people to achieve things. I think that's the big "lesson" here. I think as much as we philosophize it to this extent, even strangers or people who weren't direct friends there (Numa didn't know most of the people there,. the Strauch brothers went to the same school but only knew Marcelo, Javier only knew Pancho Abel who died the day after the crash). Half of the survivors weren't really friends during but soon came to the realization that they needed to work together.
About what you said of inconditional love, is even har to think that Numa met most of the people during in the plane, he wasnt even on the team he was friend of Gaston the guy who was sucked off the plane. And his other friend die soon after the crash. However he did everything in his power and put all of his effort for a group of strangers until he got hurt and ended up dying and loving each one of the survivors
I guess I should’ve phrased it more in a sense of Numa loving them “unconditionally” due to the understanding between all of them of the hopelessness they all felt. Certainly not a traditional love by any means, but love. Although I certainly didn’t expand on that at all.
@@xaybeast522 no, I clearly understood and agree with you, what I mean is that the bond that these people was created during this extreme and hard experience is something that made completely strangers feel like the only people for them. The scene where the injured man says he believes in a God but that God is all the group helping each other is very powerul
@@danielgarri30 Oh! My apologies, I misunderstood. Yes, I agree, that was incredibly powerful. One of the many scenes in the film that brought tears to my eyes and truly touched my heart.
I'm so glad someone else enjoyed this movie as much as I did. I rarely see people talk about! Genuinely hope it wins best foreign film at the Oscars. This is more than a survival movie and it should be seen as such.
One of the best reviews that I’ve seen !!! You expressed every thought that I had when I first watched the film ! It’s so rewarding that non-Spanish speakers enjoyed the film and appreciated it !!! Big hugs to you from a fellow colombian ! ❤
Wow thanks, when I clicked on the video i didn't know it was going to be so overwhelming. I cried with your words (obviously I cried with the movie too), you touched something inside me, you seem like a very beautiful soul, and I hope everything wonderful happens to you and the people you love 💕
Uruguayan people are so different bro! Growing up there is one of the best things in my life. There’s a lot of interviews with the survivors, check them out
I’ll be sure to do that! Thanks for watching!
You got it! This is a LOVE story.
I'm so glad many people are watching this movie and knowing about this story that means to much to all the Uruguayan people.
This is the kind of story your parents tell you when you're a little child here in UY, and you grow up knowing that real heroes exist.
Thank you for being so respectful about it. Brilliant job ❤
The improvement of this movie over the previous adaptation is that, this movie adapts a book of the same name, that was written by a journalist and schoolmate of the survivors, and he took the time to put in the book the story of all the passengers of the plain, unlike the book alive that was pretty dry and technical about the accident and just about it, the Alive movie was also very artificial in the sense that adds a lot of "hollywod drama", yes, they took an amazing real story and twisted it and gave it more action and drama because they though it would be dull, not to mention they disrespected the victims by changing the names of the people involved. But this movie is not about drama or action its about the human reality, the emotion, not the gore.
DUUUUDE!!!!! THANKS for the extremely emotional video (your words), the "un-armoured" sensibility and especially for the authenticity. Huge hug, bruh. TQM.
Fucking phenomenal…that simple comment exactly covers how wonderful this film is. Great review. I too think the film should’ve been recognized with more adulation. Omg, the cinematography and sound!
FUN FACT: It's not canibalism, it's anthropophagy, what they had to do to survive.
I just watched it today and I’ve been watching reviews and I’m so glad I came across yours!! You’re so well spoken especially for not following a script!
It's mind boggling that the sound design and the score of this film weren't nominated... Beautiful and breathtaking film❤
Great review! congratulations for your eloquence and your clear way of explaining that the movie made you feel....You are not the only one who doesn't feel loved by someone who should love you....but don't let that take away your light....As one of the real survivors said in an interview (I think Canessa) We all have our own mountains to climb
You were me thorughout this whole video haha. I truly love this film and the real life story so much, I get emotional thinking about it.
These boys were never the same after the mountain than they were before. Though the one thing they all had was that sense of family. Of kinship. Most of the Old Christians (the rugby team) had grown up together. They'd been boys together having known each other since childhood. They all became teenagers together. And they all became men together. The ones like Numa and the Methol couple were all sort of the outsiders, but it didn't matter. They were all in the fight for survival TOGETHER. They all after the crash fell into the roles they held within the team. Marcelo for instance, was the captain of the team. After the crash she fell into that leadership position in getting the boys to collect whatever food, medical stuf, the suitcases to brick up the opening to the fuselage. Others fell into positions they were about to take on, such as Roberto being the second year med student. Some of them who were in more in the passive positions stepped up, like Roy Harley who was the tech guy who went up to the tail to try to get the radio to work.
Numa certainly was the moral core of the film. According to Nando Parrado, played so to character by the amazing Agustin Pardella, Numa was the one person who was the catalyst to send he and Roberto on their ten day trek to rescue the others. Numa's death served as the last straw for Nando. The fact that both he and Roberto are the defacto heroes of the story and to the other boys is the crux of that selfless devotion to brotherhood. Also that Nando was thinking of his father. Roberto his mother. It was never about them directly, rather the others in their lives who would be left behind asking questions about what happened. The most chilling scene to me is the one where they hear on the transistor radio (I think I remember those) the search had been called off. Nando and Roberto have said, "What do you do when you are alive and the world forgets you?"
I've been with this story since reading the book "Alive" back in 1976. I always try to watch any documentaries and interviews with these men. For me it's about their hearts. Their thirst for survival and at the core, their dedication to each other. Can we all hope to have such devotion in our lives. My feeling about this story is it was meant to come along at this time. Same with the story of disparate relationships in "Godzilla Minus One." The story of what or who is a family. These men and women who suffered so much up in that valley, some of who did not return, but the ones who did return we must learn from them and their story if we are to be better people. Yes they ate the bodies of their friends. Who could blame them for wanting to survive. The families of those who did not return didn't blame them. Even the relatives of the pilots said the pilots were at fault. This film is without a doubt a story of true love and the power of that love. Thank you for your heart and for your beautiful review. Take care.
The true story says that when they hear about the supension of the search, there were a few of them near the radio. One of them was Coco Nicolich. He entered in the fuselage and tell all of them that he has a good news: "The search is over". All the boys deseperted ask what about the GOOD! "We are on our one. We are going to find OUR way!"
The survivors have been present in small moments of the film. The real Nando Parrado is the man who opens the door in the AirPort to the young Nando Parrado, to his mother and sister. Also the real Roberto Canessa is one of the Physicians who tales care of the actor who plays his role on the film. Everything in this movie is oustanding and you described beautifuly. Thanks!
Just to let you know that you have a beautiful soul ❤.
I agree with your review and points about the movie itself. I wish Bayona would see your review, you totally understood what he wanted to convey. I grew up knowing this story, but I'm still amazed of how it was portrayed here. The brilliant performances, a lot expressed with only looks, the technical aspects, the faithfulness to the facts, clothes, customs, the true view of the mountain range, too many details to count. I hope you'd watch the Behind the Scenes, with comments from actors, the director and survivors and relatives. The more I know, I think it should have received more nominations, but it is rewarding to see that the message anyway crosses languages and borders. Hugs to you.
Amazing real story and movie! its incredible to think this really happened! Great review👏👏👏
I generally don’t sit to watch a 30 minute video. But your message about this movie and how it affected your life was profound. I felt the same way. Peace to you, brother ✌🏼🏳️🌈👍🏼
‼️Encantada con tu reacción‼️❤
Es un viaje acompañando a los jóvenes en su experiencia agonica y épica.
Es dolorosa, estremecedora, solidaria, aterradora, de superación y sobre todo de AMOR❤
Felicidades
❤🇺🇾🇦🇷🇪🇦❤
Thanks for your excellent and heart felt review! This has to be my favorite movie so far. Just bummed it hasnt gotten much publicity. Its definitely a fan favorite. However i dont understand why it was only nominated for 2 Oscars; Should've been nomintated for more in my humble opinion. As much as I love this movie I dont see it winning best foreign film. Too many politics involved with Hollywood and these type of awards, unfortunately. This is a movie deserving of many more awards. Greetings from Boston!❤
I completely agree. I feel that the film is deserving in virtually all categories that apply to it. Hopes were raised in 2020 when Parasite made history by winning best picture. But unfortunately, the Oscar’s seem to have regressed in their recognition of foreign cinema in large part due to the political influence you mentioned. Honestly, I find that disgusting. This film honored and respected these passengers with such a gentle yet harrowing beauty, and it breaks my heart that anyone would write it off for political reasons, truly.
Inconditional love that touch es todo my friend. Im happy because you got that!
I loved how you express the way this film has impacted you. Perhaps LSDLN is not the best film in history of movies, but it is clearly a piece of Art and when one is willing to experience the emotional journey that this film proposes, it is sure to end up touching in a profound way. Greetings from Chile!
I really enjoyed your video, a very profound and honest review
Thank you so much!
It seems you enjoyed this movie as much as I did. I needed to learn more about their time and I read Nando's book "Miracle in the Andes" and it made me cry so much. It showed some of their uglier moments but they forgave each other because they only had each other. I really recommend his book. It's an amazing book really
What I find really interesting about this movie, and this story, is human complexity. You talked about how this movie made you restore your faith in humanity because these people were there for each other and some politicians want to pass laws that would result in the death of your friends… Well, some people can be both, there for their friends and support laws or even create laws that are very detrimental for others.
This story is the perfect example of how humans can go a LONG way to survive but also how we are all still human with flaws
That message on the paper is from the holy Bible, “John 15:13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.”
Immersive...
Empowering....
Bayona at his finest ....
There were monologs that just inspired me...
Beautiful....
Numa speaks and when he dies and does...
Listen...
Got me
Gracias por hacer esta reseña tan auténtica y sincera. Estoy segura que el efecto de la película es tan poderoso que cambiará la forma de pensar de muchos.
This was beautiful, man. I don't think you need to apologize for being emotional. It's part of the human condition. I love this movie too! It has changed my life quite literally. I wish to take nothing for granted. Over the past week since I first saw it I have reached out to some people to let them know how much I appreciate them. I've told everybody I encounter that they should watch this movie. Thank you for making this video!
❤ Thank you ❤ from Uruguay
You are great.
I think what you were trying to say about when Nando was on the ridge, or maybe it’s that it’s what he was thinking, is that It doesn’t matter if you live or die. You’re just appreciating nature because you’re so small in the midst of it. He’s just appreciating nature because he knows he’s gonna die, but it doesn’t matter.
Ellos tenian tu edad y salieron siendo mejores personas de lo que eran.asi lo dicen en sus emtrevistas.
There are more good people than bad people. The bad people just have better PR agents. don't give up on people good people are all around us!
They did not "feast on" the dead. I think that's a hugely disrespectful choice of words. I learned after watching this movie and some behind-the-scenes videos that there's a difference between cannibalism and anthropophagy. The word cannibalism implies they killed people to consume them. That's not what happened. But I didn't know the word anthropophagy until two weeks ago. We can all learn something from this movie.
It was the wording used within the film when they were discussing how much they didn’t want to do it, and it stuck with me, so it naturally just sort of came out that way. And cannibalism is pretty universally defined as a species consuming a member of the same species, not as a species killing a member of the same species and then consuming them. I apologize if it came off that way but I was also raised hearing about this story because my parents were always well-versed in it and certain words and phrases were just engrained in my subconscious at a young age as a result.
It is called anthropophagy
ur so real
Now I need the list "Depressed AF". Could you share it with us?
Maybe someday lol