Ferrari 488 GTB first drive review
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- Steve Sutcliffe gets to grips with the new twin-turbocharged V8 Ferrari 488 GTB to see if it's a worthy successor to the fantastic 458 Italia.
Full review: aex.ae/1dRu90a - Auta a dopravní prostředky
3rd 488 video today, nice
Embrace turbo noise, or just stick with N/A. Turbo noise is awesome, NA is awesome. Let the engines be what they are!
This is how a car journalist should be. Steve Sutcliffe and Chris Harris should do at least one video together.
";-)
Finaly the review answering the sound question !
Ferrari should have gone the Pagani route and made a turbo car sound like a turbo car instead of trying to muffle the whooshes and whistles.
Looks beautiful though, good video :)
You're crazy
Tommy Fletcher How? Turbo noise is the best.
bummaggots different strokes for different folks, I guess, but I don't care for turbo noise or the supercharger whine, either.
Rajiv Kishore Yeah, they should embrace the turbos rather than try to simulate a naturally aspirated engine... They shouldn't "apologise" for it being turbocharged.
Rajiv Kishore Exactly. The muffling of engine noises is really taking away that hair raising experience we all want in a car.
Love this guy's reviews - gives you an authentic impression of what these cars are like in real life...Keep up the good work!
"It doesn't sound as sweet as 458, that's the only downside".
But that's one of the most important aspect of this car, and now it's gone. People can modify their VW Golf to be faster than 458, but there is no way to modify it to sound like 458. I think the sound is more important than the speed.
BLT Interesting point!
BLT As an audio engineer for the last 30+ years, Ferrari has done nothing special since the 355!
BLT It's only 1000 rpm down on 458 so it's not as it's a very big different and on very rare occasions do people rev out their engines to max, be it in an every day car or a sports car. And one would think such a super sports car is so much more than sound alone to be compared to tuned cars. 488 is not just about speed and 1000 rpm less is not that noticeable. I would say their clever system of increasing torque by every gear is a great way of removing the turbo charging effect you find in it's rivals with max torque at 1500 or so.
Also the change that has caused some complain about the sound is due to turbo charging. What Forced Ferrari to go turbo is not emissions in first hand but the unfair competition. While Ferrari was building world class NA engines (Speciale has world's highest hp/L output than any other NA engine in a sports car) and getting to the limits all the competition had to do was to add ever bigger turbos on their engines to beat Ferrari.
You say speed is not important but just read these pages were Mclaren and their fans happily say 12C or 650S are faster than their Ferrari counterparts. Even Corvette fans are getting bold enough to say such things. So despite making better cars Ferrari was forced to jump on the turbo wagon. Complain to the unfair competition if 1000 rpm is missing on 488. Be glad Ferrari still managed to build world's best and most exciting turbo charged engine.
you can get a golf to be faster but you don't get the same feel as driving a Ferrari and people looking trying to take pictures as you drive past... I agree with the sound but just because it's not the same as the 458 doesn't mean it sounds shit everything sounds different in real life aswell
+BLT
Top speed, acceleration, traction, grip, aero dynamics, design interior and exterior, reputation and performance are all more important than engine sound.
at 0:55 the 488 GTB looks so spectacular good from that angle
I think it sounds amazing
even for a turbocharged engine the sound is shit. Soo flat and nothing aggressive about it. Now go listen to a F430, 360CS or 430 Scuderia. They literally sound million times better.
Jort Rinket Because they're all NA engined, not turbocharged. God's sake stop stating the obvious. Good thing the 488 and the California T don't sound like a 30k plastic cheap Subaru 4-banger with those whooshing sounds.
SilverArrow WilliamsMartini ofcourse 488 dont sound like those NA Ferrari's but we can clearly hear Ferrari tried to make the car sound NA. Thats where they failed. Such a weak, flat sound. Even for a turbocharged engine. But if you like it.. fine. Its just bullshit that some people say it sounds NA. Thats what I cant stand.
Jort Rinket Well be glad it doesn't sound like a cheap plastic Subaru 4-banger.
supercarvideos knokke Idiot.
Wait, so Steve now reviews for Auto Express not Autocar?
give steve more cars to review. his brilliant
Love that shift light at the top of the steering wheel. Nice car, do they come in red?
I wish that tip of the nose was long, as in pointing further out forwards like the Laferrari. Still a looker though
Much better than Autocar's review. Really good intro!
Is Ricky Gervais your brother?
Great review mate! Keep it up!
Dude what are you doing on Auto Express? Either way good vid!
amazing sound
Nice film.. always in lovely country, places I don't know obviously.
How I wish you Steve and C. Harris would team up and form a company to do everything just properly.
Now that would be mega.!
WF
With that turbo torque it seems to me the ultimate shortshifting-funfest.
Nice driving!
beautiful sound!
It's a beautiful car! Ferrari has done it again. Can you imagine what this puppy would sound like if you strapped on a Tubi exhaust?!?! Phenomenal!
More Steven Sutcliffe pls ✌🏻️
Please make a review of Mclaren 670lt next please... :)
Steve, you are the man, and ferrari, you are the king...
Great video.
I actually like the turbo better.....DONT HATE ME FOT SAYING THAT!! I just love the sound of the turbo with the monster V8
A first look on Ferrari's new masterpiece!
The 488 GTB is powered with a turbocharged 3.9 ltr V8 producing incredible 670 hp. It does not look like the introduction of the turbocharger was a treachery on Ferrari's excellent engine technology.
It seems like Steve Sutcliffe had a splendid day.
Thanks for these great impressions of acceleration on the road.
It doesn't sound as 458 because it revs only to 8000 and not as 458 up to 9000 rpm.
Ferrari was forced by the competition to go turbo. They had the highest hp/L from a NA engine in any sports car but competition kept adding bigger turbos and superchargers.
But thankfully Ferrari knows how to set up a turbo engine, by increasing the torque with each gear so it doesn't end up being a race car with full torque at low end, like some cars from other manufacturers.
A set of straight pipes will cure any sound woes.
love this car.
Can't wait to see the Scuderia version...
Camera has some white balance issues...good review btw
As usual, good review from Sutcliffe. Kind of gets to the point quicker than a lot of other reviewers.. Not much interest in this car though. It's just software disguising turbocharging. Want to make your car turbocharged? Then make it feel turbocharged!! Give me lag, give me dead spots down the rev range, give me big top end! This leaves me cold.
love this guy such big balls
How can you tell, they were always hidden from view?
this guy is for sure and definitely a 458 fan
+Bond all we are :D
I don't get the hate on lag, especially on dedicated sports cars. It's fun, sounds awesome, feels great, and makes the experience that much harder and more rewarding.
bummaggots Maybe once you drive a N/A engine with really good throttle response you'll understand it. :P
bummaggots Totally agree, it's awesome when boost comes on, it makes you nervous and the car more thrilling!
bummaggots Nah, I agree with derbigpr500 in that the NA cars are much more instant and react better.
bummaggots I get that people have personal preferences, but that is the most ridiculous thing I've read all week.
derbigpr500 I have a NA with a great motor. I've only a variety of both however. I'm not hating on NA, I love the sound and throttle response, all i'm saying is that some of the turbo cars I've only with the most lag were also the most fun.
Jesus, he didn't hold back. It looks properly rapid. Like scary fast.
Just have Steve do all the reviews for Auto express.
I wondered where Sutcliffe went and he's here! Subscribed as l really like his videos.
Looks more like a face-lifted 458, rather then a brand new model.
kinda disappointing they hasn't gone one step further with the design to give a the new model a really distinctive look design as the lip they done going from 430 to the 458..
Exactly. It's a slightly tweaked 458. That wouldn't be an issue but the 458 already looks dated. I suspect most of the effort went into getting turbo lag down given Ferrari are rusty in this area.
Well the point of the 488 was just an evolutionary step in car generations. Think about it this way. The 360 was the base and the 430 took that base and brought it a step up. The same goes for the 488. Its a step up from the 458. You cant compare the 430 to a 458. Its just not in the same generation. 458 and 430 dont even look alike let alone share anything to do with each other. Ferrari has always done this where they take one model (example 360 Modena) and just modify it to make it into a "new" model. Basically 2 car per generation. 360 to 430. 458 to 488.
Clayton Cortina So is the 355 a second generation to the 348?
Berserkr01 yep! basically!
That's how Ferrari works. The 355 is an updated 348 just like the 430 is an updated 360, and as you guessed it the 488 is an updated 458, great car though this 488 was needed to fight off the likes of the Huracan and the 675LT, if you have £200k+ ready to spend on a series production supercar then this is again the winner, fuck the R8s, Lambos, Mclarens or 911s, this is the beast to get, I believe it's also quicker than a F12 or Aventador over 1/4 mile, that is savagely fast, not far off an 1000cc superbike.
Rubbish how slow is this car. My Honda is so much more faster!
My new ordered Honda Private Jet
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+Lawrence Lo Fuck off.
+Lawrence Lo bro chill, it's a private jet, not a civic.
+Uncle Ben Spider-Man
Maybe there's something wrong with me. I mean, 308GTB and 288GTO were magic. Testarossa took time to get used to the styling, but eventually it outgrew everything in spades. 348 and 355 were beautiful. 550 Maranello was excellent. 360 Modena, still great, but 430 was such a big disappointment aesthetically, at least. 458 and 488 GTB is a great improvement over the 430, however, that F1 inspired front end, and missing pair of tail lights, is not my thing. To put it short, I find things, quite a few things I'd want changed on this new Ferrari. Remove this, add this and that. Well, no such issues with Lexus LFA. I don't even see too many problems with Nissan GT-R. And the original Audi R8 was fantastic, I even take the fairy Christmas tree headlights. Everything else was so perfect on the R8. Then managed to destroy R8 now, but that's another story altogether. To put it short, I was not a huge 360 Modena fan, but I'd take the Modena over the 488GTB now. That's probably the best I can put it. And yes, make my transmission H-pattern manual. Thank you very much.
Didn't Steve Sutcliffe review cars for Autocar ?
reminds me of the Speciale
I would think after making such a big deal about how the car sounds, you'd let us hear it at least ONCE in an 8-minute video! Even the shots from outside of the car are still using the audio from the lav mic on his shirt. If it was just some guy shooting with an iPhone or something, I'd understand, but this is a professional automotive review channel. There are 3-4 onboard cameras used, at least one other guy shooting from outside, good editing, all that pretty cinematography, etc.... but not even a $100 Rode shotgun? What a shame.
Well, is the age old debate about turbo vs naturally aspiration. I would say if you haven't heard what a 458 sounds like before then the 488 sounds OK. But, once you've the 458, then it is a pretty big drop-off. But, I guess that's the price you pay for better performance. For me, a 458 is more than fast enough, but I can't expect others to feel that way and is only natural for people wanting to stay with the game. This is why I am curious what Lamborghini is going to come up with. By all accounts, it seems like they may opt for the KERs htbrid approach, if so you may not have to suffer a trade-off with engine sound.
This car is like the 458 Italia in stealth mode... not quite as dramatic-sounding but BETTER in nearly ALL other ways. :)
Hey Steve old sport wonder what would be your channel calendar for this season already saw you in DRIVE now in auto express, good chap just let us know where to be to see you ! Now autocar UK is just a trash with the salesman testing cars , nice work
This is the best sounding turbocharged car ever made. The noise you hear is not the exhaust note, it is Ferrari's signature flat plane crack. A Ferrari always sounds like Ferrari.
4:40 "almost like a normally aspirated engine"
another confirmation...
the monster
Steve says the steering is "...sorted..." but doesn't say if there's a "connected to the road feel"...Any 488 owners out there watching this video? :)
So Steve Sutcliffe has left Autocar and gone freelance. With the success of internet auto journalism, I guess that isn't a bad idea.
Back to the car: The air intake ruins the clean looks of the side profile. The front grill looks better, but the bonnet doesn't. And I miss the F40 inspired rear exhaust. Can't comment on anything other than the looks simce I haven't seen or driven either of them. Probably never will. :(
Fantastic !
Someone needs to test it versus Enzo now. Imagine only 13 years ago people paid immense money for this performance.
D Gmaz A 458 could run circles around an Enzo, so this won't have any problems beating it.
(Ferrari 288 gto and f40) turbo v8 and one of the best ferrari ever
It sounds like pretty normal Ferrari until it hits redline. I think that's the problem. It revs about 1000 RPM less than the 458 and once it starts reving to redline you anticipate the engine note to change more dramatically but because Ferrari lowered the redline for the turbo, the engine seems to be interrupted from reving as high as it wants to... That last 1000 RPM takes away from the drama of the engine.
Chirs Harris did the best video for this car!
I think none of us can actually tell whether they would have it over an Italia or Speciale, because we simply haven't felt de difference in throttle response. First reviews state that this new engine is very responsive for a turbo-charged one, but i think the purists will stick to the NA ones from Ferrari. Apart from that, i think Ferrari has done it once again.
I would think it would really be the sound that would make a big difference. A 458 is infinitely better than a 488. Sounds a bit like a V6 dont you think
Clayton Cortina you're probably right. This thing simply doesn't have that speciale experience, but maybe Ferrari will be able to work on this when the track version of the 488 comes out.
I prefer the looks of this over the 458. The triple tailpipes are daft, for example.
I'm sure it's a brilliant car, but I think the 458 looks and sounds better. Maybe over time I'll warm up to it, but I doubt it. Formula 1 proves that technical progress doesn't necessarily mean better entertainment and I feel more or less the same with this car. It wouldn't be on my list if I were in the position to buy one.
Classic ferrari, born to be champion. The only exception was in this family, 25 something years ago, for them huge conceptional change 348 tb. Honda nsx really demolished the ferrari. But after then ferrari never let it again, and we are still seeing great ferrari s. Thank you ferrari.
It looks very similar to the 458 which is a good thing because the 458 is a stunning car
"...Get away with it.." (Drifts) car comes in front "How ever this is not the ideal place to do these stuff" xD
This Ferrari is salvage, but controllable,
Did you notice the concentration of Steve in the road?
This car demolishes just about anything at the current moment, F12 Aventador Porsche 911 TurboS Mclaren's 650 they're all most likely no match for this insanely quick 488 GTB and there's people leaving comments like "it doesn't sound as good as a 458, not impressed"
*facepalm*
i wish they changed the headlights to differentiate the look a bit more from the 458. The 'face' of a car defines it's look and headlights are so important to that.
It's hard to see more than a 458. disappointing.
If I were ever wealthy enough. It would be a tough decision between this & a Huracan... love them both. lol
The 488 GTB speaks "quietly" relatively speaking, but carries a big stick. A magnificent car in my humble opinion and looks more muscular than the 458.
Rather have a GT3 RS. Plenty fast enough for mere mortals,sounds epic,grips like a limpet,looks like a Gt racer minus decals. What else do you need? Apart from a shitload of cash.
Would this take down the new MCL(McLarens)
For a turbocharged car, it sounds good. For a Ferrari, not even close.
For 6:38 to 6:42 the video looks like if it came from a game like Forza 5, GT6, PCars, etc.
Love the 488......
I want to know. If you do a car review, why they never talk the car's interior design?
These are concentrated reviews. They only get the time to talk about the more distinct, prominent features. The interiors pretty much the same as the 458's, so Autoexpress opted not to waste time talking about it. If you want a more in depth video review, check out the one Chris Harris' done. 18 mins long, proper review.
Tawfiqur Rahman lol. thanks.
Tawfiqur Rahman but still almost nothing about interior
6:45 really i mean really beautiful
Awesome.
Always loved Ferrari but I'd take the Mclaren 650s even if it wasn't better dynamically. Looks better and probably rarer.
I'd take the 675LT, but I hear you. Whenever shows like Top Gear do group reviews it's always the McLaren which gets the public attention, and given this is just a tweaked 458 that's probably still the case.
Wishwader A tweaked 458 that is 85% brand new...
squeezar jones
The 650S is a great looking car, not doubt! But, in my opinion, the 488 looks better.
I prefer the 458
Is the new Ford GT one of the rivals for this car?
He says this 488GTB is faster in a straight line than a McLaren F1, I know that the F1 was breathtakingly fast in a straight line and this should be faster? Amazing car this 488 GTB
still has a nice sound dont know wat people are talking about. obviously does not sound as good as an atmospheric V8 from the 458 but not horrible at all.
I must have no understanding of what it really is to be a Ferrari fan. Everyone says the Speciale sounds better.
Well, I've listened to a Speciale with stock and IPE exhausts, and personally, after having heard the GTB stock exhaust, I much rather prefer the GTB's sound over the Speciale. It sounds meaner, more beastly and sinister, IMHO.
Love it 😎
0:52.... It saddens me to say this is the only angle from which this car looks beautiful. 458 is simply a better looker in all other regards.
does your eyes work?
Sadly thats right, but otherwise i dont know how the should have improved upon that look
488 sounds to me way better than any 458
I personally never liked how the 458 sounded... Much prefer the F355 and Modena noise to this day....
i hope next, 488 GTO use naturally aspirated engine.
Jason indeed bro, Ferrari's soul sound is gone in V8.
The suspension seems to be to soft
Smart Load On
Am I the only one who doesn't actually like the sound of the 458? It was loud yeah, but to me it was just a shriek, it sounded slightly flat or something. The 488 sounds better to me but nothing special, kinda like a V6 with a loud exhaust. Ferrari's V12s sound phenomenal though.
with an Ebay chip this can beat P1
Can't wait to drive this on forza when ever it comes out
458 goes up in price now?
Have anyone tried watching this with the auto generated caption? 😂
Nobody can get away with anything: CZcams The Great White Throne.
Somehow when I watch these 'reviews', I get the feeling that Ferrari's already told them exactly what to say. Or else they won't give them another car to review in the future.
Steve? I don't know that you are here now. Probably that's why Matt Prior did the test of this Ferrari for Autocar.
Its funny to see how these jouralists are more impressed with 458 speciale.That tells everything about this car
One day.