The Ultimatum: Queer Love Season 1 Episode 4 | Recap | Review
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Queer woman here; you did nothing wrong. Unfortunately, there is a LOUD minority of our community that likes to chastise cis/het people for not living up to an impossible standard. "Homophobia" and "transphobia" are terms just lofted around conversations where there is none. Please continue your recaps, your opinions are insightful and valued!
That they do. Making us all look unhinged really.
Straight people too. Everyone is a cop these days.
I couldn’t find the words to say how I was feeling but you put it perfectly. I’m not part of the LGBTQ+ community but I am an ally and my nephew is part of the community.
@@pearlosibu *PREACH IT!!!!!!!!* 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
@@pearlosibu It's annoying how often straight 'allies' are waiting to be the pronoun police. I think these 'allies' just wanna pat themselves on the back for being all high and mighty about it. These type of people aren't real allies, they are just the people who like to push 'I'm better than you' narratives.
Queer asf here. I think you're respectful, trying your best and most importantly willing to learn and change. Especially with this program there's a lot of diversity/pronouns, which like you said the show wasn't clear about. You did wonderfully, and if you do slip up its clear you aren't being vindictive. Thank you for learning!
I second this!
Yea!! Please continue I liked the video!!! No need to get emotional for trolls…
Thank you! People don’t understand how hard it is with pronouns. People aren’t trying to be disrespectful. The pronouns is a new approach going from he to she to they is still a thing people are getting used to. Someone on fb tried to police me about it and I was very upset. It’s very rude to do that to people when we’re trying to get used to this and not offend people.
Girl I am a lesbian and as someone that lives in a relatively conservative country where pronouns are not taken with any seriousness; it's extremely hard to get it right at all times. That being said, you TRIED,, that certainly means something. Rome wasn't built in one day, and that's totally okay. We appreciate this.
We appreciate you.
I believe when it comes to Mal and Lexi, Mal is more open to marriage with Lexi because Lexi is more financially stable which takes a lot of the pressure off of Mal.
Makes perfect sense!! I also think her insecurities are not there with Lexi because even though she hasn’t dated a black woman, Mal sees she is very different from Rae…while with Yoly, because they had been friends - it seems like she knows Yoly has a very distinct type & since she doesn’t feel she fits into it, her insecurities flare up with Yoly.
And on this note, I’d like to broach a question that has been nagging me about the heteronormative depictions that are rife amongst the castmates/relationships. Why do we have these structures where it appears the masc partner is unquestioningly the provider? I was very distressed to hear Mal speak about having everything in place and i neither heard Yoly volunteer to contribute or any of the other contestants ask why only Mal was providing, especially if Yoly knows that that’s the primary reason why mal isn’t ready to propose (she says. . I admit I know nearly nothing about gay relationships but I do know one boast i often hear us that the dynamics are not like het. These do in many ways, especially this. Why can’t Yoly contribute? I think I got a similar vibe with Tiff and…can’t remember her name. I know it starts with an M
@@pearlosibu I can only speak of my experience as a cis bisexual female who has dated men, masc women and fem women.. and for some masc presenting women, their personalities are also masc and they kinda naturally fall into that "provider" role that most men do. I understand what you're saying about not really understanding much about the community. Hell, I'm in it and don't understand much. But I think that is because all relationships, regardless of gender, are different and gender-specific roles in relationships across the board are different. Such as a Working mom with a stay-at-home dad. 30 years ago that would have been almost taboo. I think Mal just wants to be that provider and Yoly doesn't want to. But Mal sees a financial partner in Lexi or maybe not even a partner but a backup if Mal loses her job or something. At least there is another income to fall back on.. idk.. it's all speculation
@@danaterry2247 yeah, i see what you mean. I think this makes me like Yoly even less; because as I said, why would she just decide not ro work? Clearly, as much as Mal likes to provide, it’s now apparent that she does not embody the male way of thinking. She does want a financial partner. And Yoly instead of thinking how to be that seeing as it’s a level playing field (grnder-wise), unlike with het couples decides she will be a babygirl and be taken care of and instead issues her partner an ultimatum and drags Mal on a show. Yoly could choose this if and when they have kids and she ends ip being the domestic partner. What’s her excuse now? I don’t entirely blame Yoly. Mal could’ve communicated this to Yoly. Like I said, very het dynamics. Yeah, they should breakup.
Fellow queer here and I love your commentary! You have done more to respect their gender identities than Netflix. Also we need to hold space for people getting used to people’s gender identities just like how I will probably forget your name the first few times I meet someone. There is nothing malicious about the way you approach this. The more fans and people talking about this show means more potential for queer entertainment.
Beautifully said ❤
As a queer woman, I genuinely hope you continue and I LOVE your content and your observations. If you need to stop for your mental well-being, that's fair. But I personally don't find you to be disrespectful at all. Ultimately, even if people don't like the way that you refer to everything, they are 1000% free to only watch queer CZcamsrs so that everything is referred to in a manner that is more to their liking. But to watch the videos of someone who openly admitted that they are a cis het woman amd then come at her for being a cis het woman or not having perfect knowledge of the queer community is wild and unfair to me. Not everything is for everyone and they need to find the right CZcamsr for them. But the rest of us love you. I'll continue to support you no matter what you decide but the trolls don't matter. You are lovely and wonderful
All of this! Thank you for capturing it so well.
I don’t think Sam would ever mistreat the dog. She seems extremely leveled out mentally. Tiff seems to be using it as a defense.
100% agree. If she was mistreating the dog Netflix would most likely show it, like they did on the first season live is blind. And if there was any validity to it, why would tiff continue living with Sam?
I agree, Sam said she loves dogs and that she was excited there would be a dog there but she was just hesitant about sharing a bed, and tiff is taking that as Sam abusing her dog like what lol
I literally never comment on videos but wanted to say - I love your videos and thoughts on things and am sorry people are giving you heat. I feel it’s undeserved and that it’s clear how sensitive and intentional you are about being respectful and thoughtful. You do you and screw the hate - you’re amazing!!
Fellow lurker here lol, 100% agree
Not quite a lurker but a positive commenter and this woman is not offensive, she speaks on her lack of understanding, what more can we ask for? Shame on ppl giving her hate
GIRL KEEP GOING!! As a queer non-binary person that uses they/them pronouns I really don’t think it’s that deep. It’s the fault of the show that they refer to everyone as “she” so it makes sense that you’d be confused. Tbh I was confused about everyone’s pronouns too b/c I knew that whole cast wasn’t likely to only use she/her. I also don’t think it’s transphobic to pick what pronoun to use as long as it’s a pronoun the person said was ok with them. I think it’s fine to give a disclaimer & let folks know you might fumble but you’re working on it.
I know plenty of queer & straight relationships that go too fast, or drag out dating for 8 years. I feel like I knew far more folks in those kinds of fast moving relationships when I was in my early & mid 20s, not so much in my mid 30s & I think that’s a good thing b/c rushing to convince ourselves that we belong with someone we met 2 weeks ago usually doesn’t end up well.
Your read on Mal is on point tbh Mal doesn’t want to be with Yoly. Mal probably doesn’t want to be with Lexi either beyond hooking up but is using all of this “you transformed my relationship to marriage” lingo to get into Lexi’s pants & will likely leave here a free agent. It seems very much like high school “I feel like I’ve known you forever” type convos, but the adult version after everybody’s read that book about attachment styles lol.
Tiff can stay on that couch with their dog. Better yet Tiff can go back to their own bed smh. I have a dog but I’m clear he’s a dog not a 5 year old child & that there’s a difference between the two. I wonder if it was cut out of the edit, but was Tiff clear with Sam before that their dog sleeping in the bed is 100% non-negotiable.
Rae is a mess, idk why she’s low key committing to destroying her relationship by staying with Vanessa. I wish Rae & Sam would’ve dated so Tiff & Vanessa could implode together. I think Rae knows she made a bad choice but is sticking with it now b/c what’s the other option. Homie is WILDLY naive.
Honestly, Rae should have just been quiet. This isn't Vanessa's fault, unless it turns out that it wasn't consensual. I don't care for Vanessa, but I'm not blinded by my own bias. Why's no one addressing the fact that Rae allowed it to happen? Ugh. It's just a sticky situation
Yeah i think ppl associate Rae as non threatening so she's has to be sweet. She is soft spoken, submissive and pretty. It was very selfish for Rae to get laid and immediately tell Lexi. U have to question that Rae was trying to Stop progress with Mal. She couldve slept on the couch if she was so afraid of losing Lexi which she never came off fearful of that. She showed immaturity at that table when everybody called Vanessa out for her abusive behavior. Rae picked her anyway, seemed like a dig at Lexi. Then Rae had a very immature reaction to reaction to Lexi picking Mal. This was VERY telling.
Sam is my favourite. She's very sweet and mature but also open about her flaws. She's the only one I would be disappointed in for being more toxic than we get shown 😂
Please continue queen e!! As a queer woman myself I see and appreciate the effort & transparency. Some people just need anything to argue about. I love all of your recaps and was so excited to see you covering this!
And I honestly love hearing this perspective!! Most of my friends are queer ourselves so it’s interesting hearing a straight person’s perspective on this show
lesbian here and you did nothing wrong - I also misgendered people until I found out about their pronouns - the show made no effort to show anyones pronouns so it's definitely NOT a you problem
What’s even funnier to me about Aussie (or how is it spelled ?? Does anyone know by chance?) is that they couldn’t even “fake it” for a couple weeks 💀 like they couldn’t even clean and cook for a couple weeks, the charade just falls apart immediately lmaooo.
Hi there! Queer AF, trans person of color here, and I just want to say thank you for your candor and honesty. You have done nothing wrong, and I wholeheartedly appreciate you and your willingness to be open and honest.
Really hope you continue on watching and recapping.
So on the video, after doing a deep dive into the casts socials, Rae has admitted to getting black out drunk the night Vanessa sleeps with her. So I can definitely see where lexi is coming from (as far as taking advantage of Rae since a genuine person would refuse to sleep with someone that intoxicated).
The Xander / Vanessa dynamic does make sense. Unfortunately when you have one person you’ve given your all to probably say things like “you’ll never get anything better” or similar sentiments, someone like Xander would definitely begin to believe it enough to think that a Vanessa is the best she could have (at that time pre-Yoly)
Anyway, hope to see a recap notification on Wednesday/Thursday 💙
Lexi treating Rae as her private property was giving toxic af. Also why does Lexi have to explain to her grandpa that Vanessa f*ngered Rae? 🤨
Right?! Imagine that conversation 😂
Right??? Omg.
I'm behind on the series. I have a BAD cough right now and your last sentence gave me a coughing/laughing fit 🤣🤣
@@asherdash12 oh no those are the worst 😭 my apologies and get well soon
Yeah I get massively narcissistic controlling vibes from her. She's probably got
Her family on side the way narcs do.
I think Yolly and Xander didn’t fess up at the group meeting because they prolly wanna continue doing the nasty and they actually enjoyed each other so they prolly their situation is different. On the other hand, with Rae and Vanessa, Rae immediately regretted the next morning and told Lexi about it because she felt she’d done something bad. I tell you Xander and Yolly have done wayyyy more than Rae and Vanessa.
Ohhhh and Netflix is hellbent on showing it. I feel very voyeuristic and am almost like- they didn't sign up for this....surely this is against some ethical code
i really liked Tiff until she kept going on about the damn dog LOL
It got weird honestly.
And Tiff keeps referring to it as “the dog” or “my dog” as opposed to using the dog’s name. This is confusing to me as it’s distancing language in reference to this dog whose supposedly soooo important to Tiff.
I feel she needs a reason for the relationship to pale in comparison to the original relationship.
If I was Sam I would've told Tiff to just get used to the couch, because I don't give a damn about a dog that's not mine
Same! And I’m a dog person 1000%! It was so annoying
Same i have a lab so like i get her love for her dog but she was doing the most when it seemed Sam was gracious and open
Although I don’t wish to tone police the other comments, I personally appreciate your reviews and perspective on this. We don’t all come from the same places or walks the same paths so we all need to learn and unlearn certain things. If you click a review from a cishet woman, you should expect the thoughts to come from a cishet woman’s perpective. And I’m sure a lot of your queer viewers, including yours truly, would be glad to let you in on stuff from the queer community that cishet people don’t know about.
The end of this hurt me for you. I hate mean commenters when it’s totally unnecessary. You’re amazing girl so what’s best for you ❤
I was so surprised at your last few words at the end of the video. I didn't realize that you were facing this challenge.. you are doing such a great job... Fair, refreshing, bright, so articulate and intelligent... don't you ever give up
Thank you, Queen E! Queer lady here, you’re doing your best and that’s all I see! We’re all learning and unlearning all the time. I appreciate you being vulnerable about how that affected you ❤I would love to continue watching your recaps of this show!
As a queer woman: I really hope you continue making these recaps! You’re doing a great job!
Don't quit please :( thank you for recapping and bringing more attention to a queer show!
To be fair I only remember Yoly getting into it with Vanessa about Xander. Yoly confronted her about what she is doing there if after 4 years she still doesn’t know what Vanessa is bringing to her relationship with Xander.
Don’t cry Queen E! You’re doing an amazing job and I love watching these videos of yours. I’m not even watching the shows anymore, just your recaps.
It’s really on Netflix to make the pronouns clear, something that they didn’t bother to do. The fact that you went out of your way to check each contestants pronouns and use them correctly, is incredible and it shows how strongly you want to do the right thing.
You come across as an empathetic person who cares about people and it’s obvious to us viewers that any mistake you make is unintentional. Anyone commenting theses things just isn’t differentiating between someone who is genuinely making an effort, and someone who misgenders people in a malicious way. You’re clearly in the former group and not the latter.
If you need to stop recapping this particular show for your own mental health, then do so, we all understand. But please don’t ever feel that you did anything wrong, it’s these commenters who are wrong in this case, not you.❤
"SLEEP. ON. THE COUCH!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would have cussed Tiff out about that damn dog. I am Jamaican we don't let dogs sleep in the bed. I like dogs but Tiff you can't be screaming at someone about your dog they just met.
girl ignore them, ur never disrespectful , ppl need to chill
I think people realize you’re trying. Most of us do. Nobody is perfect. Keep going! We enjoy your recaps! 😊 We’re all learning as we go.
I like your recaps. Rae seems a bit unformed as an adult (and so was I at her age and still growing and learning many years later!). Rae is not ready for marriage.
Please continue with the videos. I love to hear your comments on the show
Enby fan of yours here! You’ve done a perfect job Queen E, don’t change a thing
I'm so sorry, seeing you this emotional breaks my heart. You and your channel bring a lot of joy to the world, hate seeing you like this. Stay strong you are a beautiful person inside and out, thank you for all your hard work ❤
I'm a bi woman and I appreciate you trying! Really enjoying these commentaries, so please don't stop! ❤
If we are rude or nitpicky of someone trying, no one would attempt to learn more about the community. I think we need to give some grace here! Sending love all around!
Yep - I was the one who said Aussie gives a young forever vibe. Aussie does have a childish vibe, though.
As a cis-gendered Queer woman I feel like I walk on landmines about pronouns. The people in the show didn’t make it clear. You shouldn’t have to do outside research to watch a dating show. You did nothing wrong.
Every gay/lez dont apply pronouns. Just the usual way is fine. Alot of us just live.
Queen E I love you and enjoy your videos sooo much. I feel you been respectful. Please don't let anyone break your spirit. We here know you are a great person. Your absolutely entertaining so happy to have found your channel. Please please continue doing these videos. Your like my friend I go to, to discuss what happened! I want to keep watching you for this show. I just absolutely love your insight. ❤
Please continue! I find you to be respectful and genuinely earnestly trying to do the right thing. It was heartbreaking to see you get emotional, and to see you question whether to continue. Thank you for bringing joy into our lives as I have been enjoying your videos for a little while now and truly find that watching your reviews is like chatting about a show with a friend. I think that commenter was unaware that pronouns weren’t released and that cast members were mixing them up themselves too. So it could honestly happen to anyone, including that commenter! Keep up the amazing work ❤
I’m transgender and I LOVE your reviews. I’ve been really happy with how open you’ve been with your inexperience with pronouns and neopronouns, and the effort you’ve put into respecting who people are. Transphobic would be calling them all “she” and “her” when they have said they use different pronouns, or discontinuing reviews if someone asked you to respect pronouns. I keep meaning to join your discord and say exactly that.
Hello! Queer CZcamsr, here! Please block the haters and keep posting! You're so calming and have a great take xx
Please keep going, you gave disclaimers that it wasn’t on purpose that pronouns were said incorrectly but even the show hasn’t been clear. Not everyone watches every interview with the reality stars
Omg please continue!! Your commentary is literally my favorite 😭
I started watching because of your reviews, so I hope you continue 💯 Can’t please everyone & I feel like you had pure intentions🤷🏾♀️
F the trolls Queenie…you have so many supporters that love you I watch you for you I’m not even interested in the show but YOUR a commentary makes it interesting. Sending you much love 💗
You better keep doing these reviews boo.. we love you and you are the reason a lot of us are even watching this show.
Queeeeen E! Love you. And love ur reviews hope you will keep them coming.
Omg please don’t stop I LIVE for these reviews!
Ah man just know u have way more supportive than silly peeps love u and keep on keeping on ty for all ur hard work ❤
I have just caught up and when I got to the end I'm like WTF😡 I enjoyed this review throughly and have been waiting to see your take because you're one of the most respectful and considerate people I have ever seen when speaking about a community you're not familiar with. I'm also a straight woman but I have friends in the community who are incredibly understanding and patient in helping me to understand things I might get wrong and using the proper pronouns. They keep telling me to relax that it's not a crash course with an exam at the end, it's a lifestyle they know I'm not 100% apart of, but at least I try to understand and show respect.
Please know that you're a beautiful and kind person who to me, always tries to be fair, conscious of causing offence and apologises when you're wrong. Don't let the self-righteous few make you feel bad and doubt yourself. I genuinely hope you continue to review the show but if it comes at a prize to your light being dimmed, I'll understand why and accept an overall review at the end.
Take care Queen E real fans got your back❤️
I love your videos, and I think you are doing your best, as many of us understand and refer correctly to people. If people don't like it, they can watch other things. You do you! You go, Girl!
Gay queer person here! I REALLY like your recaps of the show, they’re actually my favourite of the handful that I’ve watched! I see your effort in talking about a queer show and being informed as a straight woman, and think you’re doing great ❤ I’m sorry to hear that folks were being so harsh.
People need to consider what their desired outcome is before they criticize. Is it to reprimand and punish?? Or connect and grow together?
Peace and love Queen E, hope to see more of your takes of this season! Thank you ❤
We can see you’re trying. Even as a watcher I was confused too by pronouns it’s weird how Netflix didn’t put them… I too went off what their partners called each other. Don’t let others discourage you, you’re doing your best 💗
Queenie i dont usually comment on your CZcams video (but was active on discord) and as another cis/het woman watching this show and also learning, pleaseeee continue. I totally love this show and was so happy to see you reviewing it. You were respectful and i agree it takes time. Please don't be hard on yourself 😢
Love your reviews hun pls don’t be discouraged ❤
I'm relatively new to your channel. Just wanted to say I very much enjoy you videos and commentary. 😊
I really like your view points and this vid was GREAT. if ppl expect u to be perfect to hell with that. I appreciate u even covering this. U are funny and brought up criticalnpoints that I miss. Especially on Rae and Aussie. U are freakin AWESOME catching alot of stuff i didnt catch. Ppl mad at Vanessa BUT she has been very honest. U enlightened this lesbian. Do u and we need kind ppl like u. I think some of us are just use to being attacked and that requires us to check ourselves. I support u Queen E
Queen E you are amazing... you make me want to watch the show but still only watch your recaps...keep up the good work...Love you commentary
Rae deserves the smoke just like Vanessa does…however, Yoly & Xander sleeping together is different in my eyes - they actually like each other.
Vanessa AND Rae are both moving very unserious & that’s why I would give them more smoke than Yoly & Xander. The way the ladder couple is moving, they could walk out of this show together vs. Rae & Vanessa just wanted to get one off.
I really enjoyed this! Straight up cackling 😂 and this is my first video of yours so idk what the haters were on about but you kept it real and I enjoyed it. We are all on journeys of learning and it's not fair to bash people for being at their own place. I'll be looking for the next episodes if you make them.
Been watching since first season love island days, I really enjoy your videos and am a queer women. Continue, the videos are a bright spot in my day.
I'm with you: "Justice for Sam." She's low key my favorite. Loving Xander and Yoli's connection. But I hear you about everyone ganging up on Vanessa when Rae did consent to sex (I still feel like Vanessa is self centered and arrogant, but she's been up front about her motives). Also appreciate your reactions and recaps. ❤
Hey! Lesbian here! I've been watching your vids for a while. I love your commentary!! Is logical, consistent and insightful! You are so respectful too. I am impressed you are even reviewing this show. I love that you're being inclusive; straight women rarely make space for queer women (let's be honest). Also, I love your perspective and analysis regarding the racial aspects that many people overlook.
Liked the video, I think you need to change the smoke alarm battery I was listening to your video and was looking where the beeping was coming from through the house, it was from the vid 😅
Keep it up girl! You’re entitled to your opinion and I think you’ve been spot on. Everyone is gonna have their own opinion. But don’t let people get to you, you’re doing a good job ❤
Ma'am, you better stop letting these trolls get to you! The more popular your page gets, the more will show up. Count yourself blessed! You have a lot of fans, I am just one of them. Keep it up and don't apologize for speaking your mind!🌺
I love your voice and opinions, I think you're doing great 👍
Keep your head up queen and don’t listen to the people that are just trying to bring you down for no reason whatsoever! Ive been watching you from before this show, I’m a lesbian and you’ve been nothing but respectful to everyone and providing great content! You shine so bright I love your personality and your energy and I hate that people are trying to find issue where there aren’t any. I love you, keep doing you Queen, and the real ones know the truth and will stand by you! ❤
Please keep doing these!
Please continue. There is ALWAYS going to be someone in the background saying negative things regardless of what the subject matter is. In my opinion you are NOT being insensitive or disrespectful. As a matter of fact you are being the complete opposite and consciously making an effort to not offend anyone. Don't let the negative comments get to you and continue doing what you are doing. I am a new subscriber and enjoy your commentary. Those who do not can just go elsewhere.
Queen E., your recaps are excellent!! You're informative, give great wisdom, you are hilarious, and have gone out of your way to be respectful, too!!!! *Please do not let the idiot trolls stop you.* Those commenters are the trifling ones that go to every video mentioning queer issues so they can create unnecessary drama; all to make themselves feel like they are worth something when the opposite is true. *You are doing fabulous, respectful recaps, and we love you!!* 🤗🥰🙌🏽👍🏽
I rarely comment, but hey bisexual here! I have loved and been a fan of your channel and your insights, commentary, your rationale and personality for a long time!! On so many shows. It was refreshing to see a recap on this Queer series as I haven’t seen much. You are doing your best with the pronouns and you are genuine in learning. You’re doing better than Netflix! Don’t let this small minority in the lgbt community who just love to attack, not give anyone a break and full out bully, (behind a screen mind you) people for all the wrong reasons.
The majority of us adore you! We appreciate you and I hope you continue to recap Ultimatum Queer Love, cause giiiirl this show needs it. Ngl, it was starting to fall off for me but after watching your take I may just finish!
Thanks for the video! And please continue doing more videos. Haters gonna hate hate hate hate. But you will find people that will have your back.
@Queene I just wanted to take a moment to reach out and offer some words of encouragement and support regarding the recent topic you addressed in your video about the challenges of getting the pronouns right for the LGBTQ+ community, particularly the usage of "they" and "them." It's understandable that you may feel upset or discouraged when you make mistakes or struggle with this aspect, but please know that it's essential to keep learning and growing.
First and foremost, it's commendable that you are making an effort to understand and respect the pronouns of individuals within the LGBTQ+ community. Learning to use gender-neutral pronouns correctly can indeed be challenging, especially if you haven't been exposed to them extensively in the past. However, it's crucial to remember that mistakes are a part of the learning process, and what truly matters is your willingness to improve and be respectful.
It's important not to perceive your difficulties with pronouns as insulting or disrespectful towards the community. Acknowledging that you are still learning and open to understanding different pronoun usage is a positive step. By openly discussing this topic and expressing your commitment to improve, you are fostering a dialogue that encourages empathy, inclusivity, and education within your community.
I also wanted to address your concerns about reviewing a show where the inconsistent usage of pronouns was not highlighted or where they were changing frequently with interactions between other contestants. It's essential to approach such situations with nuance and understanding. Television shows and other media often lag behind in representing accurate and consistent pronoun usage, which can lead to confusion or inconsistencies. By reviewing these shows and bringing attention to these aspects, you are actually promoting awareness and encouraging creators to improve their representation of gender identity and pronoun usage.
Remember, your reviews can serve as a platform to highlight the importance of accurate representation and respectful language. By continuing to review the show and discussing these topics, you contribute to the ongoing conversation about inclusivity and help raise awareness among your viewers. Additionally, it's essential to provide constructive criticism while recognizing the efforts that have been made towards representation, as this encourages positive change.
In conclusion, please don't let yourself become discouraged or upset about the challenges you face in getting pronouns right for the LGBTQ+ community. It's a learning process, and mistakes are inevitable. By openly discussing your journey, fostering dialogue, and continuing to review shows with a critical eye, you are actively contributing to a more inclusive and understanding environment.
Keep up the great work, stay open to learning, and remember that your efforts are making a difference. Your commitment to growth and understanding is commendable, and I'm confident that with time, you will become more comfortable with using gender-neutral pronouns correctly.
Wishing you all the best
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Omg girl please keep doing you. You are honestly so respectful and you explain things very well. Honestly it’s hard to keep up with all these pronouns. I’m sorry but it’s the truth. It’s not like we try to disrespect on purpose we truly don’t understand most of it and people need to give you more compassion on that. Your supporters loooove you girl ❤
you are doing great! don't give up. hearts!
I'm queer, but identify as cis, so I can't speak for, or from, the trans community.
But what I've learned from my trans friends and acquaintances is that they're not expecting cis ppl to be perfect. If you are trying your best to use the pronouns of whomever you're speaking to or about, from a place of respect and good faith, you're probably just fine to 90-something% of the community.
I think respect is the biggest part of it. Like it is for most of us.
Great videos on the series, so far! I'm enjoying hearing your take on it.
I found your channel because of this show and as a bona fide lesbian, I appreciate your insights. And you are right about the show as a whole and even someone like Mildred using she/her pronouns for Tiff and also Aussie. So why should we as an audience know otherwise? You did nothing wrong and people should get over themselves with policing others and using accusatory language at the drop of a hat. We need allies that are respectful period not just about pronouns.
Girl I love your reviews. You give a great perspective and I always appreciate your insights. Don't listen to the vocal minority, I know a lot of queer folk (myself included) appreciate your effort and representation. Do you girl, we love and support you 👑❤
Thank you for your reviews - and don't stop. I actually only started watching the show cos of you and your recaps are spot on. Its not about pronouns/sexuality and all the pitfalls of saying/writing the wrong thing - but the psychology beneath the show (which you bring out in spades).
I love your content so much try not pay attention to the people nit picking everything. as a queer woman it’s absolutely ridiculous how sensitive some people can be. You are my fav commentator on these shows and I would love for you to still make content especially on this series!
Girl keep going I love to hear your opinion. ❤️❤️❤️
From what I remember;
1) Yolly said something about Mal wanting to get money for “everything” that might come up in the future before marriage.
2) Mal said she’s skeptical about Yolly’s feelings and all because Yolly has felt just as intensely about her exes as she feels about her (Mal) so she (Mal) isn’t sure what’s unique about her that makes Yolly want to do forever with her.
I think you're awesome! I'm of the age where I was considered a F** Hag and I took it as a term of endearment, now I don't think I'm allowed to say that... in the wise words of Taylor Swift "haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate- shake it off" ❤❤❤❤
4:12 but remember, Mal wanted Yoly but Yoly wants damn near anyone.
I wonder how much of Mal’s feelings about starting a family have to do with the person she is dating versus her own potential issues with security and stability. Lexi seems to have her sh*t together, at least in a way Yoly doesn’t, and I suspect it puts Mal at ease knowing she doesn’t need to bear the financial burden of starting a family. Idk, I just think there more there about Mal rather than it being about Lexi or Yoly
7:32 that Peter Pan syndrome makes sense, especially with how Aussie just dips when it gets hard.
Queer here ! You’re doing great ignore those watching with the intention of nitpicking. You’re educating yourself and your doing an amazing job. I love your takes ! I love mal and Lexi but yes that i love you made me rewind to make sure i wasn’t trippin lol - Vanessa is just gross
Honestly can’t wait to see how it shakes out in the episodes dropping tomorrow…
Please ignore the negative (and hurtful!) comments & keep doing videos on the Queer ultimatum! I enjoy hearing your point of view so much, I'd really miss your takes on it! 😢❤
Girl! I love your videos! Here are my thoughts about the show… 😅 so in my opinion Vanessa is the realist on the show. She has said from the jump she does not want or is ready for marriage she has even come forward and said she is an influencer. The show is called the ultimatum for a reason and her reasons about going on the show is clear to me. The girl just wanted to hook up with another person who also was not ready for marriage and she can figure out how she feels about living with someone who is and will not have any feelings for her. Maybe this will be a wake up moment for her and she either understand that being free is exactly what she needs or she will miss someone actually caring and having feelings for her. Also aside from Vanessa lol girl there are so many couples together just to be on the show. There is no way in my opinion that all of these girls are even attracted to one another lol like come on. Tiff and Sam really ? And Mildred and Aussie lol In my opinion they got together because there was no one else. Those two couples are also not exploring a real connection because they are not compatible at all. Both Mildred and Tiff have mentioned sex is so important and their partners now welp I don’t see that same sex drive although I could be wrong but lol I’m a way all of the couples are a joke and it is entertaining just because they are all lost in feelings that honestly they just want to be loved and no one is looking for marriage lol in my opinion 😂
I'm Cis and try to be respectful and learn what i can and that's all you can do. People will find a way to be offended by anything. Whether you keep reviewing this show or not, your content is always gold to me. Whatever you decide I'm down!
Oh no! Sorry about those comments. Please continue! I’m a queer woman and I’ve been looking forward to your takes and you’re funnyyy girlll. My queer friend recommended me to you! We’re watching! 🫶🏼
18:06 SAME!
Another queer woman here who loves ur video’s and appreciates how you are learning and trying 🙏
Please don't listen to those chronically online comments please!! :( You're doing a great job at being respectful Eulaine!
My theory is Vanessa wants Lexi because Vanessa thinks Lexi is a hottest woman. Rae is just a proxy for Lexi and a way to be in Lexi’s head. Vanessa just wants to win whatever that means.
I can see that,, she definitely is doing it to get under Lexi skin. Vanessa probably lowkey have a crush on Lexi. Poor Rae who is caught in the middle.
NOOOOOO 😢 What have people been saying!? I love your content I hope your spirit gets lifted up. I appreciate your hard work and your opinions 😊
You are doing an incredible job and also made a very valid point about preferred pronouns not being clearly shown and participants not adhering to correct pronouns. It's a learning curve for all of us, and you will get it wrong, at points, and guess what, it's allowed. Keep doing the best you can, some folks just want to get on a soap box to invalidate another human, and when someone does that it says everything about them and nothing about you. Only own what's yours to carry Queen otherwise you'll be carrying a very heavy burden.
Wow girl that comment is so rude. You’re awesome and so respectful. Ppl are nasty for no good reason.
Well you got a new subscriber to replace ceecee in me :) Please continue the recaps, you are/have been very respectful!