What's the Deal with Rittenhouse Judge Schroeder?

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  • @caseymichel1113
    @caseymichel1113 Před rokem +2417

    The public outrage over this judge just shows how little the common person understands about law. The judge did a good job. It’s the prosecutions job the PROVE guilt.

    • @scotthockenberry3085
      @scotthockenberry3085 Před 11 měsíci +95

      Exactly. They didn’t like how it made them feel. Well that’s not exactly a legal argument.

    • @Pitchguest
      @Pitchguest Před 9 měsíci +88

      ​@@rajasmasala These are the facts: he didn't bring a gun ready to shoot, he brought a gun because he DIDN'T want to shoot (intimidation); he never brought a rifle across state lines, it was always in Kenosha and he didn't JUST travel across state lines to defend a car dealership, his friends and family lives there, and his job was there; during the day he helped clean up graffiti, at night he stood guard outside a car dealership and when the riots began he went around asking people if they wanted first aid; he neither murdered nor indiscriminately shot the ones he killed or injured, he was acting purely in self defense (one chased after him with a posse after he put out a dumpster on fire as it rolled towards a gas station and tried taking his gun when he tripped, one tried bashing his head with a skateboard and one pulled another gun and tried to shoot him in the head).
      None of the ones he shot were black, which makes the claim other people have made about Kyle being a racist ludicrous; AR-15's are legal to carry as 17 in the state of Wisconsin; and last but not least, he was acquitted of all charges. All of this was well established in the trial, if you watched it you would have known about it already and the only thing I wonder when I read opinions like yours of what the public "needs" to do about people like Kyle Rittenhouse is what happened to simple reading comprehension and whether or not we should bring back IQ tests for general voting.

    • @mr.cheese8604
      @mr.cheese8604 Před 9 měsíci

      @@rajasmasala I don't know if you live in America but in most American states open-carry (brandishing a firearm in public) is legal and self defense is also legal. Also learn the definition of fascist, there is no evidence to support Rittenhouse supports tyrannical, militaristic, socialist regimes at all. Finally January 6 and a so called transgender genocide has nothing to do with Kyle Rittenhouse, nothing, none of these events are connected at all.

    • @DarkMatterBurrito
      @DarkMatterBurrito Před 9 měsíci +38

      @@rajasmasala There is no genocide of trans people.

    • @rajasmasala
      @rajasmasala Před 9 měsíci

      @@Pitchguest The dude came to that place fantasizing about killing people (clearly documented) and killed people. That is what happened. Also he is a textbook vulnerable-victim militiaman and child soldier straight out of a racist fantasy about Africa. About not wanting to kill people dude, all of the police trainers at Jan 6 would probably say they don't really want to kill people but. The guys burning that Mike Pence effigy would too. As would probably all of the dudes Mark Milley was referencing when he said he was going to keep the effing nazis out. This guy was too immature to not be a loose cannon as a militiaman. This baby fantasizing about murder and then doing it.

  • @BlackSunCompany
    @BlackSunCompany Před 2 lety +11265

    I recall a while back a judge who would hold people in contempt of court and subject to something like a $50 fine if their cellphone ringers went off in court. He forgot to turn his phone on silent one day and of course it goes off. To his credit, he did hold himself in contempt and fined himself.

    • @emillundqvist8126
      @emillundqvist8126 Před 2 lety +2209

      a judge holding himself in contempt sounds absolutely hilarious. I like that judge already!

    • @momokahitsugaya
      @momokahitsugaya Před 2 lety +826

      @@emillundqvist8126 same, I love people that can hold themselves accountable.

    • @ernestpaul2484
      @ernestpaul2484 Před 2 lety +274

      My county here in NC took care of the ringtone problem. The court does not allow the general public to have cellphones in the court house. LEO's, lawyers and court personnel are permitted but it had better be on vibrate only. Same thing here, if one of those goes off during the course of a trial, a fine is imposed payable down at the clerk's office.

    • @shermikeman
      @shermikeman Před 2 lety +499

      Rules for thee and also for me. I dig his style.

    • @edscmidt5193
      @edscmidt5193 Před 2 lety +67

      In Illinois you can’t bring in a cellphone if they have a camera. I was a runner for a law firm in 2004-08 and even then every phone had a camera

  • @AshkanKiani
    @AshkanKiani Před rokem +1926

    As a software engineer, the judge wanting to make sure that the zoom algorithm doesn't adulterate the footage is actually impressive, because it's a perfectly valid point. There isn't a single algorithm to upscale, and all of them introduce sampling in a potentially uneven and biased way. It may seem trivial to people who don't know the details and just think "but it's zoom, something we do all the time" without considering how much work is being done behind the scenes.

    • @DeadAndAliveCat
      @DeadAndAliveCat Před rokem +11

      Very good point!

    • @alexsis1778
      @alexsis1778 Před rokem +116

      Very true. Any time you're zooming and the resolution isn't massively dropping then there's algorithms working behind the scenes to "create" more pixels. While we generally accept this tech as being pretty good in a law case you need to make sure that those algorithms aren't changing something crucial. A few incorrect pixels could be the difference between a video of someone just brandishing a gun at someone who trips in fright and someone getting "shot".

    • @lyleman68
      @lyleman68 Před rokem +8

      That's actually interesting. I chuckled when that was first brought up simply because it sounded absurd but shows what I know. Thanks for sharing.

    • @NeatNit
      @NeatNit Před rokem +48

      Yes it's a valid point, BUT, the exact same point applies WHEN YOU DON'T zoom in. Unless the video happens to have the exact same resolution as the screen space it's occupying, some up- or down-sample algorithm is necessarily being used. So if they're going to allow showing a video on an iPad at all, they're implicitly accepting the iPad's scaling algorithms.
      I was going to say the "Windows machine hooked up to a TV" that ended up being used was just as easily susceptible to this sort of thing. But the name of the program (input-ace) is visible at 10:36 and after looking it up, it specializes in video evidence gathering. It's likely that the court officially recognizes it as having objective zooming capabilities that don't create false or misleading artifacts.

    • @GPWGP
      @GPWGP Před rokem

      As a software engineer I'd ask you to stfu please

  • @rclines001
    @rclines001 Před rokem +1402

    At no point did the prosecution ever have a case. Their own witnesses did the most to solidify Kyle's self defense case.

    • @ajossi
      @ajossi Před rokem +2

      LoL, and yet Mr legal eagle here says the video made Kyle look bad.....when every red blooded American knows that he did the right thing. I think Kyle looked good doing what he did. It's what this country has been missing for a long time.

    • @fleebertreatise1063
      @fleebertreatise1063 Před 11 měsíci

      @@ajossi Some of the dumbest Americans seem to think that when you disagree with a potentially violent protest/riot, you should go to the center of it and patrol areas with a weapon. Luckily, he actually knew how to use it. The issue is that we’re encouraging politically motivated people to bring guns to mass gatherings so that they can supposedly “protect” people.
      Right wingers (and some left wingers) want escalation.

    • @lastrolo
      @lastrolo Před 11 měsíci

      @@fleebertreatise1063 Why shouldn't they? Surely the police should do their job and people shouldn't have to take a weapon just in case.
      The only people encouraging violence, including guns, at mass gatherings with intent are on the left
      Left-wingers always escalate. Right-wingers don't want to be murdered by the aggressors.

    • @jennytalls2087
      @jennytalls2087 Před 11 měsíci +83

      i see 3 shadowbanned replies

    • @socialbreak8620
      @socialbreak8620 Před 10 měsíci +39

      ​@@jennytalls2087Same lol.

  • @274pacific
    @274pacific Před 2 lety +1936

    Remember that prosecution represents *the state* which is why it's so bad when *the state* uses your silence against you. No wonder the judge yelled at him.

    • @jeremyroland5602
      @jeremyroland5602 Před 2 lety +3

      What

    • @armitx9
      @armitx9 Před 2 lety +10

      @@jeremyroland5602 sex

    • @enhancedgamer3649
      @enhancedgamer3649 Před 2 lety +246

      @@jeremyroland5602 The prosecutor on the case tried calling Kyle out on the fact that he used his right of remaining silent post arrest, which obviously didn’t go well.

    • @EmperorPilaf04
      @EmperorPilaf04 Před 2 lety +20

      Except he wasn't using the silence against Kyle. He was pointing out the opportunity to lie under oath by changing stories on the stand, which Kyle had the incentive to do, and this judge tacitly allowed

    • @jeremyroland5602
      @jeremyroland5602 Před 2 lety +204

      @@EmperorPilaf04 That's the same thing put differently

  • @thegreenrenegade7759
    @thegreenrenegade7759 Před 11 měsíci +792

    This judge was a masterclass in how to handle an incompetent prosecution. Seriously that whole post-arrest silence insinuating guilt part of the cross-examination was so egregious that the man questioning Rittenhouse should face professional consequences with the BAR association; his entire performance is absolutely disgraceful.

    • @pipemartz
      @pipemartz Před 9 měsíci +43

      Yeah, that made me so angry. As the judge said, that is basic law - so basic. A clear and intentional violation of the defendant's rights.

    • @donovanphillips6278
      @donovanphillips6278 Před 8 měsíci +16

      Any lawyer who knows anything would remember the 5th amendment.

    • @HajimeNoJMo
      @HajimeNoJMo Před 8 měsíci +32

      In the prosecution’s defense, they had no case and the guy was charged because the charges were political in nature

    • @thegreenrenegade7759
      @thegreenrenegade7759 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@HajimeNoJMo There is no defense for acting solely out of political gain. I thought we expected our prosecutors to act honorably and only charge in situations where a crime is reasonably thought to have occurred. If anything, this makes it worse, he should had the integrity to stand up to the woke mob and say, NO! I will not go along with this!

    • @toxicuavmedia
      @toxicuavmedia Před 8 měsíci +4

      seriously, how he wasn't immediately fired from being the assistant DA i have no clue. but that just shows how incompetent the people are in these positions.

  • @roguespartan2854
    @roguespartan2854 Před rokem +413

    One of the big mistakes the prosecutor made in this court case was to lecture the judge as if he was some big hotshot in the room. I saw that part, and my God, I died internally from secondhand humiliation

    • @Nate_the_Nobody
      @Nate_the_Nobody Před 9 měsíci +25

      Thomas Bingers whole time on stand was a shit show, it felt like he thought he was taking the hardest case the courts had everseen and that HE was going to be the one to TAKE OUT Kyle, he wanted so badly to paint Kyle as this demon of a person, he was constantly talking down to people, the Judge included, he came off as a complete tool

    • @JustEverton
      @JustEverton Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@Nate_the_Nobody... that's literally what every lawyer does, tho. Even Rittenhouse's lawyers looked stuck-up and had an attitude the whole time Binger was talking

    • @Eseerrowez
      @Eseerrowez Před 6 měsíci +10

      @@JustEverton I mean wouldn't you when the prosecution is litterly wasting tax payers dollar on trying to prosecute someone who had very clearly committed an act of self defense

    • @fdswervo
      @fdswervo Před 5 měsíci +1

      Not even just lecturing him, he essentially ignored the judges prior ruling that there was no evidence to support that the threats the defendant made without a weapon on hand was somehow a premeditated threat for the alleged murders even though the threat he made wasn’t even at the same people he shot and attempted to push a narrative that the previous threats were somehow the catalyst to events that followed. So the prosecution was trying to push for a 1sr degree murder conviction which was already dead in the water based off the judges prior rulings

    • @JustEverton
      @JustEverton Před 5 měsíci

      @@Eseerrowez Literally* and the justice system are wasting taxpayers' dollars by allowing corruption to run rampant within.

  • @PinkNinjaKick
    @PinkNinjaKick Před 9 měsíci +382

    It’s amazing to me, and yes frightening, how horribly the media reported this case. It really felt like everyone was out to get rittenhouse, and the judge. I actually had a hard time find a non biased article about this case when it happened.

    • @aquifer9480
      @aquifer9480 Před 7 měsíci +1

      There are STILL people who believe Rittenhouse was in the wrong. The pistol brandished at him was carried across state lines. He had racial slurs thrown against him. Hell, even the GUY HE SHOT (the only non pedo he hit) testified that he felt Kyle could have felt that his life was in danger from his actions. Its crazy how myths about this trial are still prelevant.

    • @hagamapama
      @hagamapama Před 7 měsíci +22

      Yeah that's why I actually went and watched the raw footage before forming am opinion. I don't like watching people die but it empowered me to make my own opinion that the kid was probably not guilty of murder.

    • @NoNameNoWhere
      @NoNameNoWhere Před 6 měsíci +22

      I saw the clip being discussed in this video and looked it up on Google. All the articles I found were insanely biased against the judge.
      I imagine there were people who defended Kyle and the judge, and that Google omitted them from basic searches. Technically they could be searched, but you would need to either get creative with what you search or already know of the articles so you can enter specific key words.
      That is to say, I speculate that Google is a big player in misinformation.

    • @Nikotheleepic
      @Nikotheleepic Před 5 měsíci

      Jewish people when you kill their own in self defense:

    • @Blade.5786
      @Blade.5786 Před 3 měsíci +4

      ​@@NoNameNoWhere Google sorts results based purely on popularity (and your own activity). It goes without saying that "racist judge defends white delinquent murderer" generates more clicks than "trial proceeds exactly as it should".

  • @tylerreed610
    @tylerreed610 Před 2 lety +2325

    I feel like Kyle's prosecutor should be a case study as to how to make a bad argument

    • @natehatf
      @natehatf Před 2 lety +91

      He didn’t have any evidence, this was a joke prosecution from jump. They had to lie and they did. That’s all they had.

    • @TheWorldStageGeopolitics
      @TheWorldStageGeopolitics Před 2 lety +82

      cant win that argument - so thats the best way u can when its CLEAR SELF DEFENSE lol - sucks to be binger

    • @RobwLPOC
      @RobwLPOC Před 2 lety +132

      ​@@natehatf If it were not for the media attention, no District Attorney /Crown Prosecutor in the free world would have brought this in front of a Judge with the video of all three being the aggressors and Kyle only firing when they were a direct threat.
      Forget the possibility of guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, the Prosecutor would have a hell of a time making even a case that there was a REASONABLE doubt that it WASN"T self-defence with the evidence available.
      If not for the media and politician backlash, the Judge probably would have thrown the case out.
      Not so much Malicious as Binger was motivated by fear not hatred, but it ​could be grounds for a wrongful prosecution lawsuit against the state for pursuing clearly false charges.

    • @MykeruMedia
      @MykeruMedia Před 2 lety +36

      Much the way the people who attacked Kyle Rittenhouse demonstrated how not to try to beat someone to death in the street.

    • @davidgomez3044
      @davidgomez3044 Před 2 lety +14

      @@natehatf technically there were no lies. Rittenhouse did in fact stay silent until the trial. The relevance of those other videos is obvious to any reasonable person. There were no good ADMISSIBLE arguments, but the arguments made by prosecutors were not lies.

  • @nothing4mepls973
    @nothing4mepls973 Před rokem +167

    It can't be overstated how important the right to remain silent is. Trying to imply that waiting for due process means someone is guilty is scummy as all hell. If that story being twisted was enough to convince somebody, they really need to step back from corporate media for a while.

    • @Aaron-kj8dv
      @Aaron-kj8dv Před 8 měsíci +22

      I thin that trick should of had him disbarred actually. It's using someone's legal protections and framing it as evidence of guilt. It's truly disgusting.

    • @11C1P
      @11C1P Před 7 měsíci +4

      Thing is people have the right to remain silent, few have the ability. Kyle is one of the few who was able to do it.

    • @JM-wf2to
      @JM-wf2to Před 5 měsíci

      You are dead on the money. I could spend a thousand words telling my story. But end of the day, me understanding my rights and ending an "interview" saved my ass from spending 7 years in a prison for something I did no do.

  • @twohorsesinamancostume7606
    @twohorsesinamancostume7606 Před 6 měsíci +176

    What's really egregious is that there actually was an attempted murder caught on film by a violent criminal and the District Attorney's office decided to put that violent criminal, Grosskreutz on the stand instead of charging him like they should have.

    • @sfall616
      @sfall616 Před 6 měsíci

      That's why the fucker actually told the truth on the stand.

    • @andrewd5418
      @andrewd5418 Před 5 měsíci +2

      If you ccap him, he was up to no good again after this. I believe another DUI or something.
      I actually know some people on Facebook, that had friends that were friends with him 😅

    • @humvee2800
      @humvee2800 Před 4 měsíci +1

      To be really fair there
      There is multiple factors that go into pressing charges. Two people can both have self defence cases in the same situation and grosskreutz despite being actual slime has a plausible argument for why he did what he did and ultimately he never even fired a shot. He should have probably been charged for illegally carrying firearm but that kind of thing is regularly swept under rug in justice system for what is perceived as a more severe case

    • @andrewd5418
      @andrewd5418 Před 4 měsíci +11

      @@humvee2800 they literally dropped some DUI charges because it would have interfered with testifying.
      I think he got what was coming to him. Just 2 months ago, he was in a hit and run as he was walking in the street (probably jay walking lol)
      Not many know of this because he changed his name. Imagine having your name changed to hide who you are and stay in the same city then get hit by a car.

    • @richcheckmaker9789
      @richcheckmaker9789 Před 3 měsíci

      @@humvee2800 He should have been charged with more than illegaly carrying.

  • @gregrock7451
    @gregrock7451 Před 2 lety +650

    Even though Binger has been a duplicitous weasel throughout the trial, and is still doing so talking about the trial, both he and Richards have stated that Schreoder is well-known for being a hard-ass who doesn't suffer fools or play games. Both men have also said that Schreoder's conduct during the trial was consistent with how he ran his courtroom in the past.
    I've heard it said that he's a really jocular, friendly, amicable fellow outside the courtroom...but once inside, he's not the guy you wanna play games with.

    • @georgkram788
      @georgkram788 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, sir. Somehow it looks more like a show.

    • @Nobody-xe9fc
      @Nobody-xe9fc Před rokem +18

      As the old saying goes "a job is a job"

    • @MickeyD2012
      @MickeyD2012 Před rokem +32

      Sounds like a great judge

    • @doriandundee9906
      @doriandundee9906 Před rokem +2

      So Schroeder had this rightwing bias before the Rittenhouse trial? Explains why he was ''chosen'' I guess?

    • @GoldenSunAlex
      @GoldenSunAlex Před rokem +82

      @@doriandundee9906 No, he's just a 'defendants judge' rather than a 'hanging judge'. All Judges have a slight bias towards the prosecution or the defence.
      He didn't have a right-wing bias, he just applied the law...Which is the whole point of this video. Of course, with how incompetent the prosecution was that's not exactly hard.
      'You play Call of Duty so you must be a murderer.' Ugh.

  • @Erok9
    @Erok9 Před 2 lety +2857

    I love how everyone became a legal expert with this case, and we all got to see how horribly biased and uniformed most of our friends are.

    • @bewareofsasquatch
      @bewareofsasquatch Před 2 lety +153

      Oh come on dude. People have been doing that for decades. Not just this case.

    • @GrantedBunion
      @GrantedBunion Před 2 lety +266

      Yeah I hate that I initially got baited when the shooting was still fresh. By the end of the day Rittenhouse sure as Hell had every right to defend himself and the only debates should be whether he should've been there and whether gun laws for minors should be kept as is or modified

    • @Erok9
      @Erok9 Před 2 lety +77

      @@GrantedBunion At least you self corrected, we need to change our reflex of situations to be understanding instead of judgment.

    • @raidermaxx2324
      @raidermaxx2324 Před 2 lety +73

      We also got to see how we have two separate justice systems for white people and black people in America

    • @SloppypapiBeefboi
      @SloppypapiBeefboi Před 2 lety +185

      @@raidermaxx2324 so if I black teenager shot kkk memebers rioting in his city. After they chased and attacked him. You think America/a jury would find him guilty? Stfu you’re literally polluting the cause of actual anti-racism

  • @exe_
    @exe_ Před 2 lety +2017

    We have to keep in mind that is totally correct for the judge to side with the defendant because the way that works on the US is that the prosecution has to prove guilt, trust me, here in Mexico we have a lot of situations in which the defendant has to prove innocence and you do not want anyone to be in that situation, in that situation youre almost 100% guaranteed to land on jail.

    • @poodypooroo
      @poodypooroo Před 2 lety +93

      When you're poor in the US, you don't get those protections or assumptions.

    • @patrickmartin6977
      @patrickmartin6977 Před 2 lety +328

      @@poodypooroo yes they do the problem is most poor people don't make it to court because they don't have a lawyer during the investigation process and get pressured into a plea deal

    • @ExecratedPlaysGaming
      @ExecratedPlaysGaming Před 2 lety +187

      @@poodypooroo Which is an even bigger reason for judges to be biased towards the defense.

    • @josepetersen7112
      @josepetersen7112 Před 2 lety +19

      Yeah, I’ve been disturbed by the push to change this stateside. If you ever want to come here, we’ve got room for ya in Idaho and would love to have you.

    • @TheBruceKeller
      @TheBruceKeller Před 2 lety +35

      @@patrickmartin6977 Yeah you'll get a public defender that doesn't care about you / is buddies with the prosecutor, so they almost never want it to go to trial. In my darker days I had one for a minor vehicular incident and they said they would call the prosecutor and call back, they called back in literally 30 seconds, didn't even pretend that they actually called and talked to them! Then I found something that might have gotten me off, but the public defender hadn't even bothered. The whole thing sucked anyway because if I really wanted it to go to trial and used what I had found, I'd have lost my job... but since it was all really just a fine, I sucked it up and got convicted.

  • @peterneu9083
    @peterneu9083 Před 8 měsíci +41

    In my opinion, the judge was lenient with the prosecutor. I’ve seen judges, much more aggressive.

    • @lastrolo
      @lastrolo Před 7 měsíci +12

      The judge knew Binger wanted a mistrial and tried to prevent it

  • @XxxXxx-br7eq
    @XxxXxx-br7eq Před 7 měsíci +32

    The only victim here was Rittenhouse and the survivors of his shooting should all be charged and thrown in jail for even attempting to hurt him for no reason

    • @Eseerrowez
      @Eseerrowez Před 6 měsíci +1

      survivor. There was only one. The other two died

    • @elmokauppinen6545
      @elmokauppinen6545 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@Eseerrowezno, there were more people after him, not just the two who died...

    • @Eseerrowez
      @Eseerrowez Před 6 měsíci

      @@elmokauppinen6545 ok but they were not survivors of his shooting because they were not shot at

    • @elmokauppinen6545
      @elmokauppinen6545 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Eseerrowez yes they were shot, one had his arm shot by kyle

    • @Eseerrowez
      @Eseerrowez Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@elmokauppinen6545 ya ONE survivor. Thats who I was referring to in my first post.

  • @shootingbricks8554
    @shootingbricks8554 Před 2 lety +196

    Binger deserved the yelling for trying to violate the defendant's 5th Amendment rights

    • @DarrinSK
      @DarrinSK Před 2 lety +7

      State prosecutors are typically extremely scummy people. Of course they rarely hold a candle to the absolute villainy it takes to be a District Attorney.

    • @KingNexusMOCs
      @KingNexusMOCs Před 2 lety

      Who's binger?

    • @Wylie288
      @Wylie288 Před 2 lety

      @@KingNexusMOCs The guy that talked to rittenhouse on the stand

  • @leadpaintchips9461
    @leadpaintchips9461 Před 2 lety +1854

    I didn't know that the "Don't get brazen with me!" was the prosecution following up trying to infer that taking his 5th amendment right was nefarious _immediately_ with trying to use video that they were told they couldn't use at that time.

    • @brandondaniels9471
      @brandondaniels9471 Před 2 lety +705

      This is why ppl are so frustrated with the media and the left rn. The entire trial was broadcast LIVE! And everyone who was watching the trial knew EXACTLY why the judge yelled at the prosecutor. Lawyers following this case said that judges have thrown out other cases for far less than the mistakes the prosecution made in this situation. The entire (unedited) exchange has been all over YT ever since it happened.
      The judge had *politely* given the prosecutor warning after warning on things that are BASIC LAW! Imagine a PhD student forgetting how to add and subtract (basic math). That's basically the level of mistakes the court was dealing with from the prosecutor. So, what the defense argued was that the prosecutor was so well experienced that he was intentionally making those mistakes to angle for a mistrial without prejudice (bc the state was losing the trial). So, in return, the defense filed a motion for mistrial with prejudice (meaning the state couldn't prosecute Kyle again).
      This was a very serious thing. If the jury came back with guilty verdicts, then judge could've overturned the verdict on these mistakes alone -- not to mention the sketchy drone footage which was also called into question at the end of the trial. Thank God it didn't have to come to that.
      None of the things in the Rittenhouse case were a mystery. Almost all of the CLEAR video footage has been available for over a year. Eye witnesses were interviewed saying it was self defense (even the prosecution's own witnesses). The entire trial was broadcast uninterrupted for everyone to see witness testimony and evidence. Nothing in this case was hidden. Yet, so many ppl are coming out of the woodwork with _"I didn't know that"_ on things that have been public knowledge for weeks/months. The media is broken.

    • @TheDiego908
      @TheDiego908 Před 2 lety +244

      @@brandondaniels9471 yeah, as someone who had only heard of this case in passing I wasn't even aware that zero black people were involved in the shooting lol

    • @Kyuukai
      @Kyuukai Před 2 lety +110

      @@brandondaniels9471 To be fair, both sides of the spectrum like to cherry pick information, take information out of context, or distort information. I agree that media, especially social media has an issue with this, but it biased of you and diminishes your argument to claim that it is an issue singled out to the left.

    • @PantsuTaigas
      @PantsuTaigas Před 2 lety +93

      @@Kyuukai I’d love to see Fox News try and hide major details of a live broadcasted trial to the point where regular viewers were ignorant in the extreme as to the facts of the case.

    • @SaintKines
      @SaintKines Před 2 lety +121

      @@PantsuTaigas go look at comments from people on the George Floyd case. Fox and other RW outlets did exactly the same thing and many of their viewers came to equally incorrect realities of the situation.
      In fact both of these cases, how the bias media on both sides covered them and the results are a good example of what hyper partisan tribal bias, turbo charged by direct targeted propaganda, is coming to. It's only one small symptom but it's bad enough that it should get people on both sides thinking about where this is all going.

  • @bradr2567
    @bradr2567 Před rokem +152

    Given what you have said about it, and how brazenly the prosecuter ignored the judge's orders, I am actually surprised the prosecuter wasnt held in contempt of court.

    • @Nate_the_Nobody
      @Nate_the_Nobody Před 9 měsíci +8

      He almost was several times, Thomas Binger was REALLY pushing his luck

    • @isaiahgeorge906
      @isaiahgeorge906 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@Nate_the_Nobody Yeah, on review of the whole thing, I think he was just one more time away from being held in contempt.

    • @hagamapama
      @hagamapama Před 7 měsíci +2

      He was in danger of it, but Schroeder let him back down. Believe me when I say. Schroeder didn't have to let Binger off the land mine he'd just stepped on.

    • @Sagatta32
      @Sagatta32 Před 2 měsíci

      I felt like that was his plan.
      I don't know the benfits, cause delays/chaos?

  • @vladimircopic1632
    @vladimircopic1632 Před 8 měsíci +131

    Based judge. Huge respect. Probably one of the best judges in the USA.
    P.S. people who charge at you, while you are on the ground, with the clear intent of harming you are NOT victims. Thats why you dont call them victims.

  • @omargraham8591
    @omargraham8591 Před 2 lety +882

    Good video. Former Prosecutor here out of Philadelphia and i pretty much agree with everything you said. Judge’s have discretion i think the zoom in call was wack, but I have had a judge railroad me over trying to do something basic and not prejudicial before. It definitely happens often for the sake of protecting the defendant, avoiding an appeal or both.
    Also the part where the prosecutor was being “yelled at” 😂 that was the softest yell ive ever heard. Ive been torn apart worse for less I cannot imagine the verbal hiding i would have gotten for ignoring a sustained objection of that type in the very next question and a subject of an MIL. He is lucky it wasn’t an immediate mistrial. Definitely could have called a quick sidebar and asked to reopen the issue. Forgiveness is NOT better than permission in a court room.

    • @lProN00bl
      @lProN00bl Před 2 lety +5

      Do you ever think judges maybe shouldn't have that massive amount of power? Why let judges yell at anyone? Why let them decide what language is allowed?

    • @giovalladares1022
      @giovalladares1022 Před 2 lety +168

      @@lProN00bl you’re obviously out of your depth buddy. That was a stupid question.

    • @giovalladares1022
      @giovalladares1022 Před 2 lety +86

      The pinch to zoom feature in some softwares uses algorithms to insert pixels into the frame and basically guesses what should be there. Either way the evidence that was going to be presented was extremely pixelated and unclear. But the fact that the image was so unclear only serves to help the case that the judge said they’d need an expert witness on the software.

    • @tiarabite
      @tiarabite Před 2 lety +2

      @@lProN00bl my thoughts exactly

    • @aolson1111
      @aolson1111 Před 2 lety +86

      @@tiarabite So, you want to let the prosecutor do whatever they want, turning every court into a kangaroo court. Whatever you say, fascist.

  • @andrewjohnson6716
    @andrewjohnson6716 Před 2 lety +781

    I’m reminded of the Simpsons episode “You honor, I object to the use of the term ‘killer’ as it characterizes my client as a killer” “Sustained”.

    • @carultch
      @carultch Před 2 lety +75

      Was that the "Bart The Murderer" episode, where Bart was on trial for a murder that never happened, where Principal Skinner was the alleged victim who was still alive the whole time?

    • @dustynesmith
      @dustynesmith Před 2 lety +4

      I think something like this doesn't make sense completely and especially when the loaded language seems to only favor the defense. In a case of a spree shooting it's absurd. By this standard problematic language against the 9/11 terrorists could have been banned.

    • @cphilipbrown
      @cphilipbrown Před 2 lety +3

      @@zeed33r you mean Bart or Rittenhouse?

    • @Skozerny
      @Skozerny Před 2 lety +72

      @@dustynesmith "especially when the loaded language seems to only favor the defense. "
      It only applies to the defense because only the defense is on trial. Yes, the system is created to stack the odds in the favour of the defendant. As it should.

    • @angrydragonslayer
      @angrydragonslayer Před 2 lety +5

      @@Skozerny rather one guilty go free :)

  • @ghostfacekrueger
    @ghostfacekrueger Před 2 lety +375

    “Two ‘mistakes’ by the prosecutor”
    Those were not mistakes, they were willful, unethical acts by the prosecutor.

    • @ThegreatMizuti777
      @ThegreatMizuti777 Před 2 lety +14

      They can still be mistakes from a tactical standpoint.

    • @ericad528
      @ericad528 Před 2 lety +26

      @@ThegreatMizuti777 a mistake is unintentional. His actions were deliberate and intentional. Not mistakes .

    • @ryanwall5760
      @ryanwall5760 Před 2 lety +8

      @@ericad528 mistakes can be intentional. If I shoot a man in broad daylight, be completely culpable, and this still be considered a tactical mistake.

    • @Lady_Violet22
      @Lady_Violet22 Před 2 lety +16

      @@ericad528 You're confusing that definition with "accident". A mistake does not mean it is unintentional, simply that it's viewed as something that should not have occurred, usually via hindsight.
      I agree, however. The prosecutor was obviously paid off to do a bad job on purpose.

    • @RapidAssaultEuro
      @RapidAssaultEuro Před 2 lety +6

      @@Lady_Violet22 Or maybe he was just incompetent, or the facts of the case were so in favour of the defence that underhanded tactics seemed like the only way to win?

  • @unclecreepy4185
    @unclecreepy4185 Před 2 lety +53

    Binger trying to rephrase what he was told not to bring up reminds me of when Judge Judy tell people they can’t bring in hearsay.
    “Then Mr. X told me...”
    “You can’t tell me what Mr. X told you unless he’s here to testify. That’s hearsay.”
    “Sorry. Mr. X said to me...”
    “You can’t tell me what he said.”
    “Sorry, I heard from Mr. X that...”

  • @jasoncp3257
    @jasoncp3257 Před 2 lety +93

    Prosecution was always going to be hard, its much harder when you're not good at it.

    • @prestongarvey2285
      @prestongarvey2285 Před 2 lety +20

      i mean kyle was a clear case of self defense, also people see the prosecutor aiming a gun at the jury with his finger on the trigger that he was clearly unfit for his job

    • @jasoncp3257
      @jasoncp3257 Před 2 lety +8

      @@prestongarvey2285 another settlement needs Kyle's help

    • @prestongarvey2285
      @prestongarvey2285 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jasoncp3257 lolll

    • @januarysson5633
      @januarysson5633 Před 2 lety +1

      And Binger is worst than most. It’s like he got his law degree out of a cracker jack box. 😂😂😂

    • @lucyjordan3188
      @lucyjordan3188 Před 2 lety

      Seems like the head honcho DA didn't want anything to do with it either (proceeding non-the-less out of public pressure) and gave it to the intern when he realised it how bad it would look when everything came to light

  • @_lil_lil
    @_lil_lil Před 2 lety +165

    Some other youtubers: "I try not to talk about extremely politically contentious/controversial topics so I don't get a lot of dislikes to likes"
    Devin: "The last video I did on this topic got a lot of criticism... and I'll do it again"

    • @EvilDickism
      @EvilDickism Před 2 lety +25

      lots of lawyers talk about it.
      in a much better way with better insight.
      natethelawyer
      vivafrei
      and riketta law

    • @vsync
      @vsync Před 2 lety +25

      this video is actually mostly good though... the last one was not

    • @devan124
      @devan124 Před 2 lety +21

      He only speak facts though and the fact that he's clearly more left leaning that right leaning should tell you how bad Twitter is trying to spin this case as racial injustice.

    • @simonrival1613
      @simonrival1613 Před 2 lety +15

      Yeah, the previous video definitely had a lot of mistakes if you look at how he missed pretty important details and got things wrong or half right. Rikieta law did a review of his last video with a panel of lawyers and it was pretty rough.

    • @joelgentz737
      @joelgentz737 Před 2 lety +2

      @@simonrival1613 the only thing with this video is the avoidance of all the things the judge allowed that went against Kyle/Defense.

  • @L337N1NJ4L1NK
    @L337N1NJ4L1NK Před 2 lety +44

    So, I'm just gonna put this out here. The defense didn't argue that the word victim could prejudice the jury against Rittenhouse but rather that has been Judge Schroeder's belief for decades.

    • @dodgechance4564
      @dodgechance4564 Před 7 měsíci +14

      You make it sound like this is unique to Judge Schroeder. Many Judges have similar rules in their courtrooms to prevent prejudicing the jury, and the court should always air on the side of the defendant in such instances. Forcing the prosecution to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt, not through influencing the jury with word tricks and emotion.

    • @hagamapama
      @hagamapama Před 7 měsíci +1

      Sort of? judges are limited in what they can do unless defense counsel objects. On the other hand any reasonably competent defense counsel would object to the antics Binger put on full display.

  • @guyfanno1
    @guyfanno1 Před rokem +34

    The deal with this judge was that he applied the LAW. Nothing more nothing less.

  • @brianmccarthy5557
    @brianmccarthy5557 Před 2 lety +814

    I have a brother who's a retired judge, for health reasons, a law professor, a former public defender and an acknowledged expert on criminal law. I saw him in court several times. Judge Schroeder was easy on Binger. I strongly suspect my brother, though he is very liberal, would have flamed Binger so hard in court that his little hair peak would have melted. No, I haven't discussed the case with him. Binger was very lucky that he didn't have a stricter judge.

    • @encinoman903
      @encinoman903 Před 2 lety +41

      You should discuss the case with him and see what his views are. I imagine he could give you an interesting perspesctive, at the very least.

    • @josepetersen7112
      @josepetersen7112 Před 2 lety +27

      Yeah. My take has really only been reinforced in my mind: We’re I Rittenhouses parent I’d be PISSED at him for going, but were I the DA I’d have never brought the case as it just wasn’t there.
      Edit 11-29-21 Noon: The issue with the gun charge brought was that, as written, it only spied to Short barreled weapons. It was made, for context, to punish Sawn off shotgun use between gangs. It just didn't apply.

    • @totallynottrademarked5279
      @totallynottrademarked5279 Před 2 lety +13

      @@josepetersen7112 They only avenue to go after Rittenhouse was if he was convicted of illegally possing a firearm in public while under age. As soon as the judge threw that charge out it basically ensured a not guilty verdict as the only means to discredit the self defense claim "of he was in commission of a crime". Not that I think Kyle was morally wrong but as the Law is written if he was himself committing a crime then he can not claim self defense.

    • @TheGruspastej
      @TheGruspastej Před 2 lety +7

      @@totallynottrademarked5279 what did he do that was morally wrong?

    • @changeminds2736
      @changeminds2736 Před 2 lety +10

      @@TheGruspastej As he said
      "Not that I think Kyle was morally wrong"
      So the answer is nothing.....he did nothing morally wrong, but perhaps he may have been criminally wrong.

  • @vincentlapensee3182
    @vincentlapensee3182 Před 2 lety +326

    Honestly the prosecutor should be disbarred from practicing law again. He was absolute embarrasment in the trial.

    • @kkandsims4612
      @kkandsims4612 Před 2 lety +48

      No no keep em if I commit a crime I want. Him defending the state.

    • @lsswappedcessna
      @lsswappedcessna Před 2 lety +52

      Binger was childish. He even went into Kyle playing Call of Duty as if the 'videogames cause violence' argument hasn't been disproven multiple times in the past 25 years.

    • @GOPerks-jo7mg
      @GOPerks-jo7mg Před 2 lety +14

      That same prosecutor probably does fine against public defense lawyers that average like 20 minutes per client case. Rittenhouse got the million dollar defense

    • @amanawolf9166
      @amanawolf9166 Před 2 lety +4

      Agreed. All things aside about the outcome of the trial and such, also having some disagreements with the judge, I commend the judge for lashing out at that prosecutor. I believe the prosecutor should have been sentenced to jail time for violating his duties and the rule of law, forced to pay a civil penalty of at least $500, and disbarred.

    • @Bosscheesemo
      @Bosscheesemo Před 2 lety +2

      @@GOPerks-jo7mg
      Rittenhouse got 2 defense teams

  • @StonedHunter
    @StonedHunter Před 2 lety +597

    The more I hear of this case the more I get suspicious of the prosecution over anyone else. It almost seems like they were trying to lose given all the rather blatant acts they were pulling...

    • @rivahkillah
      @rivahkillah Před 2 lety +153

      Winning/ losing wasn't within the control of the prosecution. I'm more suspicious of why this even went to trial after the video was released.

    • @WilBgames
      @WilBgames Před 2 lety +119

      Nah they weren't trying to lose. They were trying to win an impossible battle. Cheating was their only chance.

    • @OBJYN788
      @OBJYN788 Před 2 lety +62

      Charges should have never even been brought to trial in the first place. Binger is a disgrace.

    • @Rspsand07
      @Rspsand07 Před 2 lety +59

      @@OBJYN788 He ran for DA in another district and lost, and his aunt happens to be mayor so now he's the ADA. Kyle was a political prisoner, and Binger used him for optics.

    • @pieppy6058
      @pieppy6058 Před 2 lety +12

      @@rivahkillah I mean having a trial doesn’t mean that you are guilty , do remember this.supposition of innocence and all that innit

  • @isaacmarcucci3777
    @isaacmarcucci3777 Před 7 měsíci +45

    It's almost like it's hard to convict self defense on camera

    • @bandit6272
      @bandit6272 Před 6 měsíci +15

      Not hard enough, in my opinion. Thank goodness they reached the right verdict, but I don't think he should even have been charged.

    • @warthunder9155
      @warthunder9155 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@bandit6272based

    • @Myriip
      @Myriip Před 6 měsíci

      The left will try anyway.

    • @phoenixmodellingphotography
      @phoenixmodellingphotography Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@bandit6272 I have a feeling that even those who were directly involved in the decision to charge Kyle don't think he should've been charged, but you gotta make political decisions when you've got a political job unfortunately

    • @myusernamewasinuse
      @myusernamewasinuse Před měsícem +1

      ​@@bandit6272 he wouldnt have been brought to trial in the first place 99% of the time, the entire thing was politically motivated. Its frankly disgusting.

  • @Omosisthefuture
    @Omosisthefuture Před 2 lety +96

    Yeah people trying to criticize the judge for reminding Binger not to violate a basic defendant’s right have no idea what they’re talking about. If there were an established ten commandments of law, then the right to remain silent would be one of them. I still can’t believe an established lawyer actually did that on national television.

    • @alivape
      @alivape Před 2 lety +8

      If you think the anti Rittenhouse crowd wasn't absolutely grilling the prosecutor for his blatant incompetence then you haven't been paying attention

    • @liveprudently1141
      @liveprudently1141 Před 2 lety +9

      I haven't practiced in 5 years and my first thought was the lawyer was trying to get a mistrial so he can blame the judge for losing.

    • @jacobbraunfeld4748
      @jacobbraunfeld4748 Před 2 lety +1

      Are you thinking about the bill of rights?

  • @firey171
    @firey171 Před 2 lety +774

    In reference to the jury selection, I actually find it really fascinating. All of the prospective jurors listen to the whole case, assuming they will be picked, instead of knowing ahead of time they are alternates, meaning they might not pay enough attention. The theatrics of the picking by the defendant isn't a bad idea either
    It's just a shame our media doesnt want to always get it right.

    • @nimrowd2023
      @nimrowd2023 Před 2 lety +1

      Unless he lets everyone choose their alternates like that it seems a little off but I can understand why he gave it to him because hes so young.

    • @steviesevieria1868
      @steviesevieria1868 Před 2 lety +68

      @@nimrowd2023 he does let everyone choose like that.

    • @nimrowd2023
      @nimrowd2023 Před 2 lety +3

      @@steviesevieria1868 Thank you for informing me.

    • @TheJbh147
      @TheJbh147 Před 2 lety +45

      @@nimrowd2023 he said in the video that the judge changed his policy to ALWAYS have the defendant do that as a result of a case where the optics could have been interpreted poorly. I didn't know that until now either. It does seem like a gesture of good will to the presumption of innocence, imo

    • @TheTannertech
      @TheTannertech Před 2 lety +1

      Why are the theatrics good? I genuinely don't understand how that system came to be

  • @darius572
    @darius572 Před 2 lety +24

    The judge was sick of bingers borderline prosecutorial misconduct and didn’t want the case going into a mistrial wasting everyone’s time.

  • @LftRhtGN
    @LftRhtGN Před 6 měsíci +77

    I’m just happy Kyle didn’t lose his entire life because he legally defended himself

    • @artOVtrolling
      @artOVtrolling Před 6 měsíci +9

      He still has to carry the weight, which is way better than the alternative, but I’m sure it’s a bitter sweet victory to Kyle.

    • @LftRhtGN
      @LftRhtGN Před 6 měsíci +7

      @@artOVtrolling yeah

    • @twohorsesinamancostume7606
      @twohorsesinamancostume7606 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Grosskreutz is now attempting to sue Rittenhouse, because I guess trying to murder a kid while you violently riot wasn't enough to prove what a waste of air he is.

    • @its-_-foxgrrr6041
      @its-_-foxgrrr6041 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Pfft Kyle deserves to be in prison. He went out looking for trouble.

    • @LftRhtGN
      @LftRhtGN Před 5 měsíci +20

      @@its-_-foxgrrr6041 he was defending property from rioters that where break/destroying private property

  • @RaldoronWOR
    @RaldoronWOR Před 2 lety +424

    You’ve done me a service with this video. I was admittedly outraged at the coverage of the goings on with this trial, thinking it was slanted from the start. You really helped me understand why it happened how it did, and how it was actually quite fair. I’m man enough to admit when I’m wrong. Thanks for the great content. Glad to be a long time subscriber.

    • @himaro101
      @himaro101 Před 2 lety +58

      People need to up vote this.
      Changing your mind when presented with sufficient and clear explanation is oddly rare these days

    • @nicholasbourcier
      @nicholasbourcier Před 2 lety +24

      You needed him to explain this to you? This was openly out there for you to research. You just didn't do your due diligence and wanted to ride your own narrative and biases.

    • @mainmarco
      @mainmarco Před 2 lety +24

      I was the same. This was an eye opener and showed how fair it was. Just shows I need to study law even more!

    • @stonehorn4641
      @stonehorn4641 Před 2 lety +23

      Congrats. A lot of people refuse to admit they were wrong.

    • @davewade30
      @davewade30 Před 2 lety +52

      The Rittenhouse trial was rife with media misinformation. From: "Rittenhouse chased Rosenbaum down and shot him in the back" To: "A white man who shot 3 black men." I can't tell you how many people woke up to just how hard the mainstream media are pushing false narratives these days. It's always encouraging to see people change their mind when they are given the truth. It can be hard, but is so important!

  • @goliath1179
    @goliath1179 Před 2 lety +323

    Wow, I heard the judge was generally on the side of the defense for a lot of his cases, but I never knew the prosecution was this shit.

    • @ZacksRockingLifestyle
      @ZacksRockingLifestyle Před 2 lety +133

      I’m very left-leaning but pro-facts. I couldn’t watch CBS, NBC, and other sources because when I did, the lies and mistruths made me too mad.

    • @harvbegal6868
      @harvbegal6868 Před 2 lety +116

      I knew the prosecution was shit the moment call of duty was brought up.

    • @kidShibuya
      @kidShibuya Před 2 lety +4

      And you can tell the prosecution was shit because you have so much experience with other prosecutions?.. Or are you speaking out of your ass having no such experience?

    • @Bustin_cider00
      @Bustin_cider00 Před 2 lety +117

      @@kidShibuya the prosecution was shit because their arguments and points were shit. Next question.

    • @harvbegal6868
      @harvbegal6868 Před 2 lety +33

      @@kidShibuya Are you new to the internet? Everyone in the comments section is an armchair expert. You can't handle it? Don't read the comments.

  • @scorpioneldar
    @scorpioneldar Před 2 lety +91

    One thing I really love in this comments section is how many people are realizing and admitting that they were lied to by the media, got the wrong idea, rushed to judgement, and now have changed their minds. no gatcha's sarcasm or other inferences. I am just really happy to see that this video is having such a strong effect and that people are willing to change their minds when presented with solid evidence.

    • @DarthZ01
      @DarthZ01 Před 2 lety +6

      Unfortunately all the media has done is double, even triple down on their lies and misrepresentation of Kyle. I hope that kid gets Millions off of defamation lawsuits.
      Multiple news station still literally calling him a murderer even though he's been found not guilty.

    • @dailydoser1309
      @dailydoser1309 Před 2 lety +2

      Even that looney from the young turks said she was wrong!!

    • @agentc7020
      @agentc7020 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DarthZ01 I mean, not being found guilty doesn't mean he didn't kill, want him to be called a killer? Or is he a self defenser or some other less threatening title?

    • @deusvult6920
      @deusvult6920 Před 2 lety +16

      @@agentc7020 the definition of murder is a human killing another human without a legal reason to do so
      Continuing to call someone a murderer after acquittal is PATHETIC and an absolute and utter falsehood. Stop reaching bro, take the L. Be happy we still have a right to a trial

    • @agentc7020
      @agentc7020 Před 2 lety +2

      @@deusvult6920 Still counts in my opinion, excesive self defense is murder in any other developed nation but like I said it's just my opinion. I'll "take the L" as you said.

  • @jules.x
    @jules.x Před rokem +51

    I thought by reading the news that Kyle was guilty of murder. Until I watched the actual trial and saw the evidence he was acting in self defence.

  • @TheGCRust
    @TheGCRust Před 2 lety +1079

    I appreciate these videos. Takes away the theater of media coverage and just boiling down the facts and rules of law.

    • @DarrinSK
      @DarrinSK Před 2 lety +73

      Anyone who watched the case should have been able to understand this. The problem is that people allow their perception to be filtered through legacy corporate media outlets with clear agendas.

    • @tdsims1963
      @tdsims1963 Před 2 lety +42

      @@DarrinSK Cut some slack. Most Americans aren't taught critical thinking and the news is now mostly for ratings. This is why videos like this are needed.

    • @MOOSEGUARD1
      @MOOSEGUARD1 Před 2 lety +11

      Also the severe flaws with said rules of the law

    • @c1ph3rpunk
      @c1ph3rpunk Před 2 lety +27

      @@MOOSEGUARD1 then go get a law degree, become a criminal lawyer then run for office where you can affect change.
      Also, please cite an example of the “perfect” legal system. Justice is blind, the end result is often not pretty due to being a human system.

    • @mattsmith457
      @mattsmith457 Před 2 lety +15

      Good one, but LegalEagle has a very significant bias. He boils down facts to the parts that make good content or at worse push his personal opinions, because at the end of the day he's a lawyer. Just watch the readily available footage.

  • @barbeonline351
    @barbeonline351 Před 2 lety +554

    A clip you could have added is of the post trial interview with Kyle's lead attorney.
    He had a lot to say. With regards to the judge the attorney pointed out that he had appeared before the judge as both a prosecutor and defense attorney. The attorney summed up the judge by saying you will receive a fair trial, but "you don't want him to sentence your client".
    Apparently no leniency once the guilty verdict is handed down....

    • @zeusmasterson4117
      @zeusmasterson4117 Před 2 lety +22

      That’s interesting, and it fits with what I’ve seen.

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 Před 2 lety +15

      they're just equating consistently being trash to being fair

    • @warhawkofchogoris8555
      @warhawkofchogoris8555 Před 2 lety +7

      But that violates the narrative

    • @steviesevieria1868
      @steviesevieria1868 Před 2 lety +49

      @@nathanlevesque7812 I’m not sure who is trash? The judge? I thought he did a excellent job I think you’re coming from a slanted perspective.

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 Před 2 lety +3

      @@steviesevieria1868 You can think that if you're grading on a national curve, but that would be absurdly generous to the judicial system of the USA.

  • @concealit4800
    @concealit4800 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Wouldn't have mattered how good the prosecution was.. The kid clearly just defended himself.

  • @arcanepcgamer
    @arcanepcgamer Před 2 lety +157

    I would love to see you cover the ongoing case of Jussie Smollett, as his defense attorney cries in court, and storms out with her mom in the middle of the case, because the judge denied her a mistrail

  • @freman
    @freman Před 2 lety +759

    I'm pro televised trials - if this trial wasn't so public the situation would be worse - as it's so public we can see the evidence, the process, and the arguments and show it to the people who clearly have no idea and are getting their hot takes from echo chambers. The problem becomes that those same ... people chose to take snippets, edit statements out of context, and use that to create dissent - I'd rather have the whole story in the open or we'd still be listening to cnn going on.

    • @humantacos9800
      @humantacos9800 Před 2 lety +37

      Yet people upset about the outcome didn’t seem to care about evidence or laws.

    • @TheHockey991
      @TheHockey991 Před 2 lety +34

      I hope Kyle sues the media like the Sandman kid did. Defaming someone who at the time was 17, calling him a murderous white supremacists, calling him a shooter. CNN and the likes are poison.

    • @lindapryor3747
      @lindapryor3747 Před 2 lety +12

      @@TheHockey991 He is a murderous white supremacist. You can’t explain that away!

    • @TheHockey991
      @TheHockey991 Před 2 lety +35

      @@lindapryor3747 LMAO whats evidence do you have for saying that??? Murderous, he would've been killed if he didn't defend his life.

    • @kazimir138
      @kazimir138 Před 2 lety +30

      @@TheHockey991 Dude its obvious bait.

  • @mrsterling3290
    @mrsterling3290 Před 2 lety +218

    You glossed over the Drone footage situation which is key to the defense's argument and was clearly a sign of Mistrial.
    The Drone footage the defense had was only 8mb or something like that. The prosecution then said they had their own file and hdisplayed a file but of much higher quality and bigger in file size.
    Plus it was cropped. They then said they received the footage the same way the defense did.
    Therefore the footage had been mishandled in someway. The defence have the right to have the same drone footage as the prosecution; especially when it's of much higher quality.
    Plus, the comments about zooming in were because the apple software adds pixels to try and enhance a photo when its blurring. The software itself states it can not be used in a court of law. So the defense had every right to argue their case there.

    • @TreguardD
      @TreguardD Před 2 lety +23

      Not only was that a Brady violation, but the Prosecution *actively* had Video Compressing Software on the device that had the "Better" video.
      Add that to the other attempts at intentional mistrials; and we should be asking when DA Binger's disbarment hearing is.

    • @wisersamson9000
      @wisersamson9000 Před 2 lety +9

      Bingo. I also believe the situation with Dr black is a bigger deal than he made it seem. It absolutely gives the jury a sense that the state (as represented by the judge) is saying "this man is an honored/venerable and trustworthy serviceman!" And that has a big implication on how the jury feels about their expert testimony. I would think these kinds of non standard procedures would be more if a NO NO in such an important instance like during a trial. You want as little interference as possible with how the jury perceives evidence and witnesses, it's the whole reason the "victim" and "rioters and looters" distinction was important....so shouldn't it be just as important here?

    • @isaiahj21
      @isaiahj21 Před 2 lety +6

      @@wisersamson9000 it was only coincedence that he was the lone veteran in the room that day. the defense called witnesses who were veterans but they werent there on veterans day.

    • @PsyloSatan
      @PsyloSatan Před 2 lety +9

      They had to admit live to the entire planet they didn't know how their own technology worked. That was a good belly laugh right there.

    • @TreguardD
      @TreguardD Před 2 lety +3

      Pffft. They probably did know and they lied about it.

  • @MrHellsing76
    @MrHellsing76 Před 8 měsíci +10

    THe only thing more disturbing than this entire court case, is the prosecuter, was to my knowledge the District Attorney acting like a twitter lawyer going after someone for their politics under the guise of by the book self defense against criminals and pedophiles.
    I'm amazed the Judge didn't get more angry as he well should have with this failure of a lawyer.

  • @tomdooley5524
    @tomdooley5524 Před 2 lety +77

    I really appreciated your objectivity in covering this. I am a pre-law student (one and a half years away from my BA in history (major) and philosophy (minor) and going off to law school) and I am by no means a pro-rittenhouse conservative. I am a political independent who had a lot of problems with what rittenhouse did. But, legally, I recognized, especially after making a concerted effort to watch large chunks of the trial, that he should be acquitted due to self-defense and that the media coverage was terrible and riddled with legal misunderstandings and misinformation. I really liked how you were able to approach these legal issues objectively and independent from the politics. I actually showed this video to several people in order to help clear up media driven misinformation and misunderstanding.

    • @nationofpigs485
      @nationofpigs485 Před 2 lety +8

      I'm curious what issues you had with rittenhouse's actions.

    • @Orcastruck
      @Orcastruck Před 2 lety +10

      @@nationofpigs485 kid had no fault we have the right to bare arms,

    • @Orcastruck
      @Orcastruck Před 2 lety +5

      Yes he might of have had a gun at 17 but the gun was going to be given as a birthday present to him when he was 18, but still self defense is self defense

    • @nationofpigs485
      @nationofpigs485 Před 2 lety +9

      @@Orcastruck agreed, people ask why he was there but never ask why those rioters were there.

    • @Orcastruck
      @Orcastruck Před 2 lety +3

      @@nationofpigs485 yea it's wack bro

  • @maxcassidi6768
    @maxcassidi6768 Před 2 lety +130

    The coverage of this trial made me doubt the qualifications of news producers, anchors, and reporters. It was absolutely disgraceful.

    • @notapplicable2616
      @notapplicable2616 Před 2 lety +24

      Media coverage of events had nothing to do with their qualifications, they're fueled by a combination of malice and their desire to push their own beliefs.

    • @madjack730
      @madjack730 Před 2 lety +16

      I’ve always doubted them. They handled this case poorly and ignore a lot of important ones. They don’t report news just attention grabbing stories.

    • @Teth47
      @Teth47 Před 2 lety +15

      The scary part is that this is how the news treats absolutely everything. This one just looks so gross because you know what's actually going on.
      The news (any side's news, it's not a matter of politics, it's economics, and money works the same for everyone) paints such a distorted picture of reality that not watching it is literally more informative than watching it.
      Ask around, anyone will tell you that the news is generally accurate but sucks at reporting on whatever thing they happen to know a lot about. When everyone says that, that's because the news isn't generally accurate. Don't trust it, as loaded as the term has become, all of the news is fake.

    • @airplanes_aren.t_real
      @airplanes_aren.t_real Před 2 lety +9

      Well the problem is simple
      If they just talk facts without giving their opinion they can't pander to audiences who will give them more money if they just say what everyone is already thinking

    • @808Fee
      @808Fee Před 2 lety +7

      100%. I watched the entire trial, read up on individual laws and I was shocked what the media made out of this case. I prefer to go to the direct source when available these days.

  • @SaguaroBlossom
    @SaguaroBlossom Před 2 lety +1713

    Thank you for another excellent video that answers many questions and explains things so us laypeople can understand them better. Definitely a complicated case. I was also shocked at the prosecution trying to berate him for staying silent after his arrest. Literally EVERY SINGLE ATTORNEY will tell you to do just that. They aren't kidding when they say "Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law."

    • @jayteegamble
      @jayteegamble Před 2 lety +63

      And it can only be used *against* you.

    • @kimmiewise1044
      @kimmiewise1044 Před 2 lety +94

      @Kitty Queer - fae / faer - Tell me your an idiot without telling me you are na idiot…

    • @tamhuy10
      @tamhuy10 Před 2 lety +51

      @Kitty Queer - fae / faer - the thing is they have a right to keep silence and can't be punished for using that right

    • @RTaco
      @RTaco Před 2 lety +74

      @Kitty Queer - fae / faer - It's dangerous to close your mind to additional info. Also, the 3 men he shot were not black.

    • @zacktanner4539
      @zacktanner4539 Před 2 lety +65

      @Kitty Queer - fae / faer - He didn't kill any black people, you're living in make believe land.

  • @ACEDshooter
    @ACEDshooter Před 2 měsíci +5

    Is shocking how little fact legal eagle knows about this case

  • @w00ten
    @w00ten Před 2 lety +8

    This is a great video. Prosecutor here. You explained everything excellently. 👏🏼

  • @MoneyGist
    @MoneyGist Před 2 lety +322

    7:18 "You're not allowed to convict them because they have a certain propensity towards crime... A criminal defendant can't be convicted just because they have a history of doing bad things."
    I actually find that pretty surprising considering how certain individuals are generally profiled based off their criminal history.

    • @jcortese3300
      @jcortese3300 Před 2 lety +92

      Profiling isn't a conviction, though. Profiling is a crap attempt to make policing more efficient, but once you're in the courtroom, it's all about what happened on the night. (Or should be.)

    • @rickydouglas689
      @rickydouglas689 Před 2 lety +31

      Should be, that is the operative word. But we all know it is not levelled equally

    • @russelljordan8864
      @russelljordan8864 Před 2 lety +5

      Well cops it seems can arrest for whatever they want judges don't have to hold you guilty

    • @FANTOllVll
      @FANTOllVll Před 2 lety +30

      I think you’re confused. Individuals aren’t profiled as much as you think during trial. Their records are considered during sentencing which is where your confusion may lie. You will get a longer sentence if you have a longer rap sheet, and vice versa. It can be confusing I know

    • @djfxonitg
      @djfxonitg Před 2 lety +27

      If you’re a person of color your history matters, not if you’re white

  • @gabriel1205
    @gabriel1205 Před 2 lety +166

    In regards to the zoom function. Interpolating algorithm does actually do exactly what the defense claimed it does. Adding pixels is a necessity when using digital zoom, they can either use an integer scale which adds identical pixels which essentially just makes the image slowly into big square blocks, or they use an interpolating algorithm which guesses what the "right" colour is, which gets increasingly more inaccurate the more you soom.
    This is actually a really good example of how people use something every day so they think they know how it works, but they really don't. That's why it's *so important* for courts to actually have experts explaining even how basic things work and why they are, or are not, valid evidence.
    Further, the next day the prosecution used still images that had been enhanced with a similar process, which they did manage to get in using expert testimony. The problem being that if anyone had gotten around to read the manual for Amped (the software used), it specifically says it is not accurate enough for trials because of the interpolating algorithm.

    • @markelliott9737
      @markelliott9737 Před 2 lety +16

      The problem with the interpolating algorithm is that changes in lighting and shadow can change things dramatically.
      The ones that were actually used should never have been included.

    • @GamingGardevoir
      @GamingGardevoir Před 2 lety

      @@geolazakis Who is Ben and where is he chilling?

    • @saulkid7232
      @saulkid7232 Před 2 lety +2

      Get LegalEagle on Destiny's stream

    • @Natter91
      @Natter91 Před 2 lety +5

      That applies if you're actually enlarging the image, but phone screens are small enough and cameras good enough that you can likely "zoom in" substantially, using only the original captured image data, before the algorithm has to kick in. Modern cameras capture a ridiculous amount of megapixels.

    • @corkedfever
      @corkedfever Před 2 lety +3

      This is *extremely* negligible unless you're zooming in like 100000x lolol

  • @gabeshivers
    @gabeshivers Před 3 měsíci +4

    Context is really important for the instances where the judge scolded the prosecutor; so people who just saw a clip or quick reel with commentary were easily duped into believing whatever angle the commentator or poster had that the judge was biased or didn’t handle the case properly.
    In actuality, the judge was upset because the prosecutor repeatedly attempted to unlawfully bring evidence into the case that had been disallowed, and specifically when the judge got heated, pretended to play dumb as if he’d misunderstood a previous ruling.
    That’s when the scolding happened; the judge knew that the prosecutor wasn’t operating in good faith, was lying, and was potentially trying to get a mistrial. Again, pretty common behavior from judges who run a strict court if you cross a legal and ethical boundary in plain sight.
    Thats part of the judge’s job, is applying the law when either side starts to step outside the boundaries or (in this case) ignores a previous ruling.
    Again, context matters. If you operate in a way that disrespects or disregards the judge, expect to get reproached.

  • @Petrico94
    @Petrico94 Před 2 lety +599

    I appreciate high profile cases being in the news getting people to discuss the laws as they are, but people seem to focus too much on the outcome they want or how everything is unfair to what they want the case to represent rather than if a judge can find one person innocent based on what the lawyers can find.

    • @pottyputter05
      @pottyputter05 Před 2 lety +16

      Ya thats been a thing for a long time but was inflamed due to the massive political betting placed on the trial so it not only didn't matter what the facts were, ppl in the left media just wanted to burn a white boy with a gun. not only did they want the verdict they were extorting the American people

    • @daltigoth3970
      @daltigoth3970 Před 2 lety +16

      @@pottyputter05 To be fair, the optics of the entire event suggest Rittenhouse went there with the intent to shoot some people, and the people he shot certainly didn't do themselves any favors by trying to chase him down and attack him. I think the ruling was fair based on the laws in the state, and I have no qualms about the judge's decisions that are talked about in this video, but I also think Rittenhouse provoked the attacks against him specifically so he could use the self-defense claim to get away with killing them. I suspect that I am not alone in that belief, and that is why people were looking for a guilty verdict here. Not because he's a "white boy with a gun", but because he went there with the intent to kill people and should not be getting away with it.
      This verdict incentivizes others to take similar action, as we have also seen in states with "stand your ground" laws where people with guns intentionally provoke an attack so they can use lethal force in response.

    • @oelboy
      @oelboy Před 2 lety +47

      @@daltigoth3970 the way it had been portrayed for a year made it look that way.
      To me, informing myself about the case the weeks after it happened without just looking at headlines, it looked like he is a dorky but well-meaning kid who came to Kenosha in order to clean up the mess, put out fires and help his community. The whole medic thing made him look quite dorky to me. Also there were dozens of people with guns so he didn't stick out at all. Him knowing how to handle the gun made it seem like the "right choice" to have some kind of equalizer.
      Also the fact he only shot people trying to attack him and instantly tried to retreat to the police before being approached again made it seem like he wasn't trying to engage in the situation.
      Also as for the much repeated "he wasn't supposed to be there." No-one was supposed to be there. But since people were there I'd value the intent of preventing damage over the intent of causing it.
      All in all it is sad it had to come this far, but I actually cannot see how anyone who looked at all the available footage could've come to the conclusion many news "pundits" and in general, outlets, came to.

    • @oelboy
      @oelboy Před 2 lety +17

      Also the way Rosenbaum and Rittenhouse conducted themselves prior to the incident made it really hard for me to put the blame on Kyle.

    • @daltigoth3970
      @daltigoth3970 Před 2 lety +11

      @@oelboy I think we can just agree to disagree here. I don't think he should have involved himself, and I don't believe that he went there with the earnest intent of "preventing damage". The fact that he only shot people trying to attack him is exactly what would be done if his intent was to kill protesters and get away with it using a self-defense claim. The people that went after him were stupid for doing so, regardless of whatever provocations he may have made to incite them to do so.
      The whole thing is a mess, but the fact remains that if Rittenhouse hadn't been there, those events would not have happened, and those people would probably still be alive. So the questions you should be asking yourself is: Why did they attack Rittenhouse and not any of the dozens of other people that had guns? Why is it that only Rittenhouse had to shoot people to defend himself during this entire event, and not anyone else?
      Clearly the protestors were not as out of control as you are implying they were, so the answer is likely because Rittenhouse had specifically provoked them to attack him because he wanted to shoot someone. The videos that were barred from being presented as evidence suggest that Rittenhouse has a hero complex. I personally know people that have made very similar statements and would definitely have done exactly what I am suggesting if they actually had guns to do it.

  • @adelucas4824
    @adelucas4824 Před 2 lety +68

    In the UK defendants always wear their own clothes in court, whether it's a custody defendant or not. Family can bring clothes into prison for people to wear to court so they look their best. Anything that stops a jury being automatically prejudiced. Of course some don't take advantage, but looking smart and tidy rather than chained and shackled in prison uniform levels the playing field.

    • @JanInGameWTF
      @JanInGameWTF Před 2 lety +7

      Wouldn't that open the door to class based prejudice? I mean if a defendant is from a higher class full household that can easily have access to "nice clothes" while another person is in a situation where that is much harder to get or even they don't have a standard for what "nice clothes" look like, that may have an effect on how jurors view the defendant according to their bias.
      I'm sure that that has been probably been aknowledged when making that decision, but I'm honestly curious if there is a worry for that.

    • @marvelsProtege
      @marvelsProtege Před 2 lety +7

      @@JanInGameWTF more then wearing something that say I just came out of jail? And rich people will always have the upper hand

    • @JanInGameWTF
      @JanInGameWTF Před 2 lety +3

      @@marvelsProtege i think that it would be more neutral to have everyone wear the same clothes served by the court so everyone at least gets the same initial judgement, in that way it's also much more manageable, since it would be the default apparel so everyone knows how to work around that judgement.

    • @Uthedudeful
      @Uthedudeful Před 2 lety +5

      @@JanInGameWTF I'm not an expert on these matters by any means, but most people in the UK seem to be able to get hold of a shirt / jacket for these sorts of occasions. I suppose it could prejudice a jury against working class defendants, but it seems that the risk of that occurring is probably minimal compared with the risks of a jury making adverse inferences from someone being brought to court in chains and a prison jumpsuit. Even if the prejudice against working class defendants does arise, the solution is surely to make sure that suitably smart clothes are provided to working class people, rather than tipping the scales even further against them by bringing them into a courtroom shackled.

    • @JanInGameWTF
      @JanInGameWTF Před 2 lety

      @@Uthedudeful yeah yeah I was trying to get to that, having neutral clothes supplied to people who don't have of their own, not prison clothing, but i felt that achieving that goal would be an inversion that realistically wouldn't go through, so neutral jumpsuits or shirts, not necessarily shackles, are a sensible concession I think. Maybe...

  • @gjb520
    @gjb520 Před 2 lety +4

    I enjoy your videos. I appreciate how you break down the complexity of the law into simple terms. And I'm a huge fan of your legal show reaction videos. I've also noticed that you speak very fast. If you speak that rapidly in court or during depos, I hope you at least take a breather in between sentences to give the court reporters a little rest.

  • @Leviathan56
    @Leviathan56 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Binger is literally a movie viliian, the way he argues with the judge and then points a gun at the entire jury

  • @Mr_T_Badger
    @Mr_T_Badger Před 2 lety +521

    As a person who, admittedly only knew of this through social media, thought Judge Schroeder was being a dick, I’m really glad to have somebody give a dispassionate and thorough explanation of what happened. And seriously, Judge, put your phone on vibrate while you’re at work. 🤣

    • @ryan4627
      @ryan4627 Před 2 lety +21

      Although I agree he conducted a fair trial, I still think his constant grandstanding and "look at me!" attitude was very unprofessional for a judge

    • @habibsspirit
      @habibsspirit Před 2 lety +58

      Social media is cancer. Gives everyone snippets that make you feel a certain way without telling you the whole story, and to add insult to injury this pattern is further reinforced through social conformity in the comments.

    • @badbilly7499
      @badbilly7499 Před 2 lety +29

      Thats the whole point, they wanted to paint this image of him for you without you knowing the whole truth. Pretty common media tactic. My advice would be to do your own research when it comes to something controversial or when they are telling you what to think.

    • @zerotwoisreal
      @zerotwoisreal Před 2 lety +7

      he never told us what the ringtone was

    • @bishop31656
      @bishop31656 Před 2 lety +13

      @@ryan4627 Did you not watch the total disrespect of the DA and the outright Lies He was speaking now that was grandstanding.

  • @rodneytruitt9566
    @rodneytruitt9566 Před 2 lety +910

    I appreciate you for explaining these things. You've helped me to correct my thinking about the application of the rule of law in this case.

    • @thewewguy8t88
      @thewewguy8t88 Před 2 lety +32

      Honestly I agree this felt objective and honest and he explained it was not as black and white as the media was making It be.

    • @violet_broregarde
      @violet_broregarde Před 2 lety +30

      @@thewewguy8t88 it actually is that black-and-white, just in the opposite direction

    • @jongyon7192p
      @jongyon7192p Před 2 lety +8

      @@violet_broregarde What are you a sith?

    • @deusvult6920
      @deusvult6920 Před 2 lety +6

      @@jongyon7192p no the media is the sith

    • @stacygirard647
      @stacygirard647 Před 2 lety +1

      Sorry but that judge was corrupted that is a fact je made sure the jury would see eittenhouse has not guilty and he succeeded a xold blooded murderer who cross state with intend of killing is not self defence at all

  • @michalsoukup1021
    @michalsoukup1021 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Criminal defendants should ALWAYS, even if previously convicted, be allowed to wear a suit, or equivalent there off, to court.
    Even if the person IS convicted of ANOTHER crime, they are innocent until proven otherwise in the matter of that particular trial.

    • @stansman5461
      @stansman5461 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Exactly. The idea that any jury can be unbiased to a defendant in an orange jumpsuit or handcuffs is ridiculous. Unless that person has proven themselves to be a threat to others, they shouldn't be in handcuffs.

  • @jacobthompson6265
    @jacobthompson6265 Před 8 měsíci +3

    He knew that the prosecution didn’t have a case 😂😂😂

  • @scottyrye
    @scottyrye Před 2 lety +388

    Thank you for covering the Rittenhouse trial.
    I tend liberal, (as many of your viewers likely do), and as I watched the Trial I thought and felt it seemed a lot fairer than my usual media was giving it credit for.
    It seemed like the real spirit of the argument against Rittenhouse's possible aquital was that he was being treated better than a parade of example cases involving black defendants.
    To me, that was trying to make a right out of a new wrong. The solution is for future such defendants to have more fairness in their trial, not for RIttenhouse to have less.
    But, I doubted myself and my lack of legal expertise. I looked to your channel hoping you would shed some light on it, and you did.

    • @Ward413
      @Ward413 Před 2 lety +75

      Thank you. That was my exact feeling as well. I saw a lot of people make the reasonable point that a black defendant would be treated differently, from the moment of the shooting to the trial, but for the answer to be treating Kyle unfairly made no sense to me. That’s not equality - that’s retribution.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish Před 2 lety +34

      This video's actually substantially better than his original Rittenhouse video. But it does still have some very subtle Rhetoric. For example
      (This first one is fairly minor)For the Rioters and Looters vs Victim thing he leaves out "The jury here could hate Gaige Grossekruetz or jumpkick man as much as they want, they're literally unable to convict them of anything. And nobody on earth could do anything to Rosenbaum or Huber, their freedom is not in danger from this Jury, Kyle's is.
      He called Binger's Three-in-a-Row constitutional and evidentiary oversteps "Mistakes," not even entertaining the possibility that this very experienced trial lawyer knew DAMN WELL what he was doing and did it anyway.
      He explains the Anti-Kyle evidence that was excluded as Propensity Evidence (The fight where a girl had Kyle's sister in a headlock and he beat on her headlocking arm, and the violent trash talk about the alleged shoplifters.)
      But he DOESN'T explain the Other propensity evidence that was thrown out. The evidence brought by the defense that showed the first attacker to charge Kyle was a LITERAL serial child rapist, just out of a psych ward for trying to kill himself before he could be sent back to prison for beating his fiance.
      And the second person shot had a history of domestic violence against his siblings and grandma. (Defense actually almost got that in when the prosecution tried to make Huber seem heroic via his great aunt. But for some reason the Defense chose to just warn the Prosecution that they'd counter the heroism story with the criminal record and let the Prosecutor drop it, maybe they felt bad about reminding the great aunt her favorite grandnephew did bad things to his family, of felt it would play badly to the jury)
      He breezes over the compressed video Brady Violation(The prosecutor's duty to provide ALL potentially exculpatory evidence to the defense.) Which is very serious as well.

    • @scottyrye
      @scottyrye Před 2 lety +11

      @@DIEGhostfish Some good points.
      RE: exclusion of propensity evidence from the Defense
      I think he could have included some mention of them to show the even application of principals. I think the full details would be a bit tangental given the core topic of the video.
      RE: The Compressed video violantion
      He took it in a very different direction than I was expecting. I think he responded well to the concerns expressed about zooming in on the video*
      The motion for mistrial with prejudice because the enhancements used an AI were, in my opinion, quite serious.
      I believe the Defense even said at one point the enhanced version used AI. I would want to hear expert testimony, but if true I believe that absolutely should have caused a mistrial. I lack the experience to weigh in on the prejudice matter but ... seems like an appropriate concept.

    • @Datamining101
      @Datamining101 Před 2 lety +8

      @@DIEGhostfish Good points about the victims, but irrelevant. they're dead and not on trial. Kyle's saying whatever he needs to say at this point to get himself off the hook, and given that it's basically just his word vs. some dead guys I'm not sure the propensity evidence against him should really have been suppressed. Still, prosecution had an uphill battle in this one. The not-guilty result is morally reprehensible here but justifiable legally, I guess.

    • @johnnydibert6212
      @johnnydibert6212 Před 2 lety +8

      @@Datamining101
      Would that line of thinking not also mean that other crimes of the "victims" were relevant to establishing criminal behavior?

  • @aavvv_
    @aavvv_ Před 2 lety +1310

    Thank you for helping us understand. It’s easy to watch the coverage of any trial and draw conclusions one way or another, but your explanations are clear and concise and matter of fact. (As we would expect, but can always use more puns.)

    • @airplanes_aren.t_real
      @airplanes_aren.t_real Před 2 lety +53

      Seeing something critically instead of running with your own opinions on a subject is a skill a lot of reporters seem to lack

    • @HzGP
      @HzGP Před 2 lety +15

      @@JapanesePiano1 the "Do more research and think for yourself" has nothing to do in court, fortunately...

    • @Tsudico
      @Tsudico Před 2 lety +7

      @@amell.5461 There appear to be many areas where the US seems to lag behind other western nations when it comes to societal wellbeing. It almost seems ingrained in us as we grow and learn about our country that we are "rugged individuals" instead of a society that depends on, and prospers by, cooperation with our fellow neighbors.

    • @manbo1213
      @manbo1213 Před 2 lety +13

      @@JapanesePiano1 He was discussing those hypotheticals to give the audience an idea of what could’ve gotten him convicted

    • @ImAlsoMerobiba
      @ImAlsoMerobiba Před 2 lety +8

      @@JapanesePiano1 Ho w do you know he isn't watching other sources? Stop jumping to conclusions. Why shouldn't we assume the same about you?

  • @shubhamsagarsingh9451
    @shubhamsagarsingh9451 Před 2 lety +6

    I thought that it was a Standard practice for the American justice system that the defendant has a right to remain silent.

  • @Arhusband
    @Arhusband Před 2 lety +98

    I really appreciate how thoughtful this interpretation of the trial was. I know it has to be difficult for the lawyers involved to represent a case that had so much coverage and options from people who aren't looking at it from a legal standpoint. 🤔 I feel like the pressure on the lawyers to be at their best may have contributed to the mistakes that were made. But I can't help to think, if a person's life is on the line, which in essence a murder trial is, can we ever not be too careful in our pursuit of the truth?

    • @evilsworn2901
      @evilsworn2901 Před 2 lety +4

      Little binger had the added burden of being shit too

  • @Angriestpirate
    @Angriestpirate Před 2 lety +145

    The prosecutor really dropped the ball on this. They probably could've even gotten the CVS video in front of the jury on impeachment grounds had they asked Kyle the right questions. Sloppy work.

    • @airplanes_aren.t_real
      @airplanes_aren.t_real Před 2 lety +25

      Ngl the judge sounds like the smartest person in that whole trial

    • @johndillinger8482
      @johndillinger8482 Před 2 lety +13

      judge did nothing wrong

    • @Angriestpirate
      @Angriestpirate Před 2 lety +32

      @@johndillinger8482 I agree in terms of procedure but the veteran's day fiasco was unnecessary.

    • @airplanes_aren.t_real
      @airplanes_aren.t_real Před 2 lety +3

      @@johndillinger8482 and compared to the rest he was actually a pretty solid judge all things considered

    • @TaveZgg
      @TaveZgg Před 2 lety +10

      @@Angriestpirate that was taken out of context as well. He had asked if there were any veterans in the room, and when only the witness said he was, he acted shocked saying "really we don't have any other veterans, not even in the jury?" and asked for them to clap for him. Not at all biased, just celebrating veterans

  • @davidwood8730
    @davidwood8730 Před 2 lety +944

    A thorough and dispassionate explanation. I think I understand these issues now. These were a bit confusing and I followed the trial pretty closely. Perhaps you can explain something from the Arbery trial. The defendants were accused of 5 counts of murder. I kinda get how malicious murder is different, but why the others? One defendant was acquitted of two counts of murder but convicted of 3. What was the distinction?

    • @MarsJenkar
      @MarsJenkar Před 2 lety +58

      Not a legal expert, but I remember that "felony murder" is a charge related to a person killing a victim (or assisting in same) while the person (not the victim) was committing another felony. Now, there were nine total counts for each defendant. One was malice murder, four were felony murder, and four were other counts related to the killing. The one who was acquitted of one count of felony murder but not the other three was also acquitted on one of the other counts. I'm going to assume that particular defendant was acquitted of one count of felony murder because they were also acquitted of the associated crime.

    • @FlyingFox86
      @FlyingFox86 Před 2 lety +17

      I would be pretty interested to hear more about the different kinds of murder (in a legal sense) and what they all mean.

    • @charlie.mike.7659
      @charlie.mike.7659 Před 2 lety +56

      they were charged with 5 counts of "felony murder" ie a murder that results from a felony action. each underlying felony, ie assault, false imprisonment, etc, incurred a seperate felony murder charge

    • @killfalcon
      @killfalcon Před 2 lety +24

      Those weren't murder charges, exactly. the charges were "Felony Murder" - the crime of killing someone while doing a Felony. Each count was tied to a different felony (assault, false imprisonment and conspiracy to commit a felony were the main ones here, I think).

    • @blizz2748
      @blizz2748 Před 2 lety +13

      So I actually did research into this. A felony murder is any murder that occurs during the commission of a felony. Basically if someone is doing a felony and someone is killed during that felony then felony murder is added. Each felony that is connected to the murder has the felony murder charge. The guy was aquited of one felony murder because he was aquited of one of the felonys. The sentences for them dont stack for one murder but they are charged for each

  • @mr_tantrum5051
    @mr_tantrum5051 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Enjoyed your commentary, but the absolute best thing about the video was how seamlessly you made the transition to your sponsor. You sir are a true professional.

  • @Sherman62
    @Sherman62 Před 2 lety +20

    Anyone who thinks that having the song "Proud to be an American" as your ringtone is grounds for criticism, or evidence of improper bias.... those people are detached from reality and predictably cannot understand the event, the case, or the verdict. It's like they live in an alternate reality where logic is turned inside out.

    • @ericbogar9665
      @ericbogar9665 Před 2 lety +1

      They are as detached from reality as the people who think a 5'3 unarmed man chasing you gives you a right to murder them.

    • @Sherman62
      @Sherman62 Před 2 lety +8

      @@ericbogar9665 Unfortunately for Rosenbaum, he HAD threatened to murder KR a short time before charging at him AND he was accompanied by people with guns and clubs who were firing shots. Most importantly, the JURY felt that the threat was quite real. Unanimous verdict of Not Guilty on all charges.

    • @ericbogar9665
      @ericbogar9665 Před 2 lety

      @@Sherman62 The threat was a lie. It got debunked on video. Rosenbaum was never around when the lasers were being pointed and Kyles boys scaring people. I guess that is irrelevant to you, huh? Only kyle and his boys with guns should feel threatened, right? And do you know how cowardly you sound saying that he threatened to kill him so that means he could do it. No it doesn't. If someone threatens to kill me and they don't have a weapon to carry out that threat I would laugh at them. That doesn't scare me. That's something people say all the damn time. And he was not accompanied by anyone. He was alone. He got out of the hospital and walked there after meeting his girl. What was his motive to kill kyle? Why do you think he chased Kyle? You don't think Kyle did anything at all and Rosenbaum chases him for no good reason? And the "mob". Why were they chasing him? What did Kyle do to have them chase him? Just some more people with murder on their mind that night? Everyone was out to get ol innocent Kyle, huh? He didn't do a thing wrong did he?

    • @Sherman62
      @Sherman62 Před 2 lety

      @@ericbogar9665 What did Kyle do to make them chase him? He got caught alone.
      Rosenbaum: "If I catch any of you MFers alone I'm going to kill you".
      And then he tried to do just that. We really don't need to wait and find out if he could do it before defending ourselves. He was a grown man and could have done serious damage. The threat was credible. The burden is met.
      Face it, there is no sympathy for people who "protest" in the middle of the night by burning the city down. Don't expect that to change.

    • @PaxChristi7
      @PaxChristi7 Před 2 lety +11

      People were calling this judge out for having an American flag tissue box. We’re truly losing our minds

  • @NylonStrap
    @NylonStrap Před 2 lety +188

    I'm surprise the issue with the Handbrake application on the prosecution's computer wasn't addressed. As a software engineer, I know Handbrake is used to convert/compress videos from one format to another. When the defense asked for the drone footage from the prosecution, prosecution had the legal obligation to provide this unaltered evidence to the defense. What the prosecution provided was a lower quality version of the drone footage compared to what the prosecution had. The filenames were different and the meta data in the files proved the difference as well. It may have been an oversight on the prosecution's side, but they were claiming it was the email program which compressed the video. I'm currently not aware of any email program which compresses video while in transit.

    • @godalmighty83
      @godalmighty83 Před 2 lety +20

      It was going to be, the Defence knew about the software, and how the video was edited. They had a motion ready to file. But as KR was acquitted with prejudice it ultimately didn't matter.

    • @canadadry5449
      @canadadry5449 Před 2 lety +22

      I heard what they recieved was roughly 1/16the the quality of the original video.

    • @jamescaley9942
      @jamescaley9942 Před 2 lety +22

      Looks like evidence tampering.

    • @samuelhowie4543
      @samuelhowie4543 Před 2 lety +3

      @@canadadry5449 Someone compared the difference to, the defense was viewing it on a 98 iPhone and the prosecutors were using a 20 model.

    • @deejnutz2068
      @deejnutz2068 Před 2 lety +4

      It's simple.
      Sour Krauss lied.

  • @harvbegal6868
    @harvbegal6868 Před 2 lety +510

    The state of media in this country is so shit we have to go to a CZcams channel to get some actual legal facts. Well done and thank you. Also that segue to Ting was so good I actually stayed and listened to the whole thing.

    • @clarkcant4818
      @clarkcant4818 Před 2 lety +36

      My advice? Don’t get news from the front page of Google or via social media. Read multiple authors takes on an issue and dissect which leanings are at play in even the seemingly unbiased writings. Not even lawyers can be totally objective, we all have our biases.

    • @Swarm509
      @Swarm509 Před 2 lety +17

      The youtube channels with lawyer panels and live coverage were the best thing to watch I found. One could hear what was happening and also get a wide range of opinions as they happened. Also a lot of these channels tended to make follow up videos explaining or discussing items as well which further helped explain things.

    • @TheNemesis442
      @TheNemesis442 Před 2 lety +17

      despite the clear far left bias of this channel.

    • @Devinfrbs
      @Devinfrbs Před 2 lety +34

      @@TheNemesis442 Which just shows he's a good lawyer.

    • @lmfao5411
      @lmfao5411 Před 2 lety +10

      @@Devinfrbs Holy phuk you cultists are insane.

  • @LargeStyle
    @LargeStyle Před 2 lety +28

    Mr Eagle - I have a video idea suggestion that's especially relevant this time of year (Christmas shopping): today I've read that US lawmakers have announced a new legislative bill - named the Stopping Grinch Bots Act to deter / stop scalpers from "abusing" the retail market. Apparently a similar proposal was made of the BOTS act a few years ago which got the ball rolling on these type of control measures. You'd have a lot of material to cover such as how the bill is implemented and executed (defining boundaries of what is fair usage as opposed to abuse), the range of use it could have in various sectors, if it'll be effective (punishment fits the crime). Maybe you prefer more established practices over almost speculation over new ones, but I thought it was interesting and very relevant problem nowadays that would benefit from legal intervention. Either way, love your videos and work - I have nothing to do with the legal system but I just enjoy watching someone so intelligent and passionate talk about law, being the system of justice we have today. So thank you Mr.Eagle, and Merry Christmas :)

  • @jthablaidd
    @jthablaidd Před 6 měsíci +8

    I love how people defend the criminals who pulled Kyle to the ground
    Even though one technically committed a *war crime* : faked surrender before pulling out a weapon

    • @fredrikcarlen3212
      @fredrikcarlen3212 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I.... I think you have to be in a war to commit a war crime..

    • @TheLithp
      @TheLithp Před měsícem

      War crimes require wars, genius. That's why tear gas can be used by police even though it's banned in war as a chemical weapon.

  • @dillonpatterson4310
    @dillonpatterson4310 Před 2 lety +242

    12:45 the judge was reviewing a prosecution's piece of evidence(the "enhanced" drone video), and if I'm not mistaken the defendant is allowed and required to see all evidence brought against him. So basically he was obligated to view the video with the judge.

    • @Caelinus
      @Caelinus Před 2 lety +68

      That is what it looked like to me. Them sitting close in that instance looked obviously like a logistics thing because they were obviously watching a video. If sitting close to someone to watch a video is proof of positive associations then the witness stand has weird implications.

    • @gregdubya1993
      @gregdubya1993 Před 2 lety +1

      I've seen this same thing in other cases as well.

    • @user-de2wv8ri8n
      @user-de2wv8ri8n Před 2 lety +22

      It gets even worse than that ... They degraded the evidence and gave it to the defense team. So you have a Brady violation there which can easy get the case thrown out with prejudice. Plus that evidence seems per the the company that made should not be used in a trial.
      He did a bad job at telling the audience with the real reason the tech was such an issue. More I watch from him about this trial shows he didn't watch it

    • @jss27560
      @jss27560 Před 2 lety +9

      I thought that they were required to turn the evidence over to the defense attorney not that they had to watch it together. He also talked about all the evidence needed to be approved before the trial began.

    • @1morechip
      @1morechip Před 2 lety +27

      @@jss27560 they had a 1920p video and handed over a 480p video with a different name and metadata. The prosecutors were scum in this case

  • @Noland55
    @Noland55 Před 2 lety +261

    I want you to know how much I appreciate the way you conduct your channel. In an age where rumor is turned to fact, someone who looks at the facts in a informed manner is of great value. No matter what anyone feels about Rittenhouse, an informed look at the judge's action is of benefit to all. Thank you.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish Před 2 lety +18

      This video's actually substantially better than his original Rittenhouse video. But it does still have some very subtle Rhetoric. For example
      (This first one is fairly minor)For the Rioters and Looters vs Victim thing he leaves out "The jury here could hate Gaige Grossekruetz or jumpkick man as much as they want, they're literally unable to convict them of anything. And nobody on earth could do anything to Rosenbaum or Huber, their freedom is not in danger from this Jury, Kyle's is."
      He called Binger's Three-in-a-Row constitutional and evidentiary oversteps "Mistakes," not even entertaining the possibility that this very experienced trial lawyer knew DAMN WELL what he was doing and did it anyway.
      He explains the Anti-Kyle evidence that was excluded as Propensity Evidence (The fight where a girl had Kyle's sister in a headlock and he beat on her headlocking arm, and the violent trash talk about the alleged shoplifters.)
      But he DOESN'T explain the Other propensity evidence that was thrown out. The evidence brought by the defense that showed the first attacker to charge Kyle was a LITERAL serial child rapist.
      And the second person shot had a history of domestic violence against his siblings and grandma. (Defense actually almost got that in when the prosecution tried to make Huber seem heroic via his great aunt. But for some reason the Defense chose to just warn the Prosecution that they'd counter the heroism story with the criminal record and let the Prosecutor drop it)
      He breezes over the compressed video Brady Violation. Which is very serious as well.
      Also they eventually did allow AI interpolated (Digital zoom that smooths the images with AI generated pixels) video in from the prosecutor and he hung nearly his whole case on that video. That was a massive mistake in the prosecutor's favor.

    • @redactedredacted4080
      @redactedredacted4080 Před 2 lety

      @@DIEGhostfish regarding the Video Brady violation he might be intending to talk about that in a separate video.

    • @Sal3600
      @Sal3600 Před 2 lety +15

      @@DIEGhostfish legal eagle is pretty clearly politically driven in most of his videos. Every reasonable person should be able to spot this.

    • @jamesfeng24
      @jamesfeng24 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Sal3600 yeah I miss his pre trump content before he became such a hardcore lefty

    • @satyaartidicit1018
      @satyaartidicit1018 Před 2 lety +9

      @@Sal3600 to be fair to LE, I’m pretty sure he’s trying to be unbiased. I don’t think they’re politically *driven*, his political view just seeps into the video content a little bit. I mean hey, being absolutely objective is almost impossible for most people

  • @MrTrailerman2
    @MrTrailerman2 Před 2 lety +23

    Back in August 2020 I learned that it was against the law to cross state lines if you were unarmed and going to work and where your dad lives. The media over a thousand times said so. "And he crossed state lines"

  • @kellybrian6495
    @kellybrian6495 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Looting and theft should concern us. If our local stores get shut down due to unsustainable lose of profit, where else do we trade? 6:29

  • @MrBuzzBill
    @MrBuzzBill Před 2 lety +90

    It should be a very difficult mountain to climb for a prosecutor to convict someone. Presumption of innocence is a very precious, even endearing, aspect in our legal system. It forces a jury to be convinced of guilt. Thats the only standard that is moral.

    • @whitewhale9012
      @whitewhale9012 Před 2 lety +10

      Yet that is the aspect under attack by the blue checkmarks

    • @ILoveGrilledCheese
      @ILoveGrilledCheese Před 2 lety +3

      The problem is he wasn’t innocent, so the presumption is irrelevant. He’s on camera shooting people so that’s out the door. People often confuse not guilty with innocent. He definitely killed those people so there is no presumption of innocence needed.

    • @MrBuzzBill
      @MrBuzzBill Před 2 lety +6

      @@ILoveGrilledCheese TROLL ALERT 📢

    • @whitewhale9012
      @whitewhale9012 Před 2 lety +7

      @@ILoveGrilledCheese The sad thing is you were probably proud of this post.

    • @MrBuzzBill
      @MrBuzzBill Před 2 lety +2

      @@whitewhale9012 Eeerick doesn't live in a place where "presumption of innocence" is a judicial axiom.

  • @z_actual
    @z_actual Před 2 lety +215

    I found watching a bunch of lawyers discussing the case while the court was live a fascinating experience that left me understanding more about the process.
    It was as good as that book you just couldnt put down, but way more valuable

    • @logic3686
      @logic3686 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, I did too. Especially Friday's feed when the lawyers and judge were reviewing the charges.

    • @HoboTango
      @HoboTango Před 2 lety

      Is watching lawyers argue really more valuable in your life than reading a good book ? I would disagree on that as reading a book could teach you how to argue with them rather than repeating what they say.

    • @z_actual
      @z_actual Před 2 lety +8

      @@HoboTango honestly there was less of argument than passionate discussion, ultimately the right answer/s become apparent.
      I usually know quite a lot of the subject matter I read, so Im mostly filling detail. I have this theory that, the things you think you know are the things you know less about than you should. I found this was true with the concept of self defence and how it differs across states. Im sure there are books on it but Im not given to dive into them, a few hours online with people fighting their corners on technical issues was worth it for me on something I felt I should know more about.

    • @logic3686
      @logic3686 Před 2 lety +3

      @@HoboTango It was a lot of things I learned from watching the case. I think if you are learning, then it's not a waste of time. Not that I want to watch a lot more, it was interesting.

  • @SuperDaxos
    @SuperDaxos Před 2 lety +46

    All this video shows, is that twitter and facebook are not the best ways to get your factual 'knowledge' over a case

    • @MJW238
      @MJW238 Před rokem +2

      No, go to CZcams instead 😅

  • @seancstew
    @seancstew Před 2 lety

    I love this breakdown. Not as much as I love the transition to your sponsor, which was EPIC!

  • @goodguykonrad3701
    @goodguykonrad3701 Před 2 lety +177

    It seems to me that if there were any failings it would be by the prosecution

    • @dr.floridamanphd
      @dr.floridamanphd Před 2 lety +66

      As someone said in a previous video: the prosecutor was the best defense lawyer Rittenhouse could’ve asked for.

    • @leonardchurch814
      @leonardchurch814 Před 2 lety +18

      Prosecution was abysmal

    • @James-oo1yq
      @James-oo1yq Před 2 lety +3

      This! Sadly...

    • @LesbianWitchAcademia
      @LesbianWitchAcademia Před 2 lety +6

      The best defense Rittenhouse never paid for.

    • @afatcatfromsweden
      @afatcatfromsweden Před 2 lety +2

      And defence. They were better prosecutors than the prosecution in itself.

  • @OKCMTB
    @OKCMTB Před 2 lety +69

    “The prosecution has the burden of proof” I think that’s where most people get lost in this case. People forget the most basic “innocent until proven guilty.”

    • @scienceandponies
      @scienceandponies Před 2 lety +3

      That's because despite it being the law as written, it's so rarely the reality as practiced for so many people. The double standard gets noticed.

    • @aolson1111
      @aolson1111 Před 2 lety +24

      @@scienceandponies No, it does apply to everyone, which is why Darrell Brooks was allowed to leave jail and commit mass murder at the Waukesha parade.

    • @manueldolorosa2525
      @manueldolorosa2525 Před 2 lety +3

      @@aolson1111 the man had skipped bail in another state you can't tell me there wasn't a warrant for his arrest.

    • @Copperhell144
      @Copperhell144 Před 2 lety +5

      People remember "innocent until proven guilty" just fine, it's just that they always convince themselves that the defendant already has been proven guilty before the trial ends (For context, for this case I was one of those that prejudged Kyle as guilty)

    • @timkramar9729
      @timkramar9729 Před 2 lety

      That's the first problem. It should be guilty until proven innocent.

  • @douglashemphill2308
    @douglashemphill2308 Před 2 lety +18

    I'd like to see your thoughts on the Potter/Wright trial that just started. I'm unclear on the difference between the types of manslaughter in this case, and what defense she can possibly mount when, in this case, she was directly responsible for the death, even if it was accidental.

    • @pmberkeley
      @pmberkeley Před 2 lety

      Even if accidental? Why is she even being tried?

    • @jimbobiv1919
      @jimbobiv1919 Před 2 lety

      @@pmberkeley manslaughter not homicide that’s the difference on intention. This is a very common thing that occurs like with an auto accident for example if the person at fault in the accident causes a death in the other vehicle they can catch a charge vehicular manslaughter charge if they were driving recklessly or etc.

    • @pmberkeley
      @pmberkeley Před 2 lety

      @@jimbobiv1919 ?

    • @capncottontail1030
      @capncottontail1030 Před 2 lety +3

      What about the Potter/Sirius black trial

    • @pmberkeley
      @pmberkeley Před 2 lety +3

      @@capncottontail1030 JK Rowling is the real queen of England

  • @TheAzn23456
    @TheAzn23456 Před 2 lety +1

    He always gets me with the ad at the end. Like I’m paying attention to legal facts and thinking critically then boom, ad lol

  • @daiakunin
    @daiakunin Před 2 lety +199

    Having watched your explanation I think the media coverage around the trial was guilty of sensationalism. The full context and explanation you provided were not provided my conventional media outlets. Instead it was just cherry picked tidbits of information that were seemingly designed to rile people up and get eyes on an article. Thanks for the explanation and have a happy Thanksgiving.

    • @MrYac-ie8ie
      @MrYac-ie8ie Před 2 lety +50

      No sensationalism friend, outright malicious lies. They had full access to all the information in real time and many of them still flat out lie about it still. As much as i wish we didn’t live in a world where you have to personally watch every second of something to get an even semi honest opinion that is where we currently are.

    • @raycarter8070
      @raycarter8070 Před 2 lety +4

      I agree. I was surprised at the way my workplaces would train us on how to write criminal law stories. Once I graduated from law school, I felt really dumb on the way that I was trained to write a story from my editors.

    • @ShivaX51
      @ShivaX51 Před 2 lety +8

      I think it was more that the media doesn't understand what is going on and they let people on social media lead stories.
      Media law experts tend to be, simply, ignorant and stupid and often not even experts. Then someone on Twitter sees or hears a thing and makes a big row about it.
      Instead of media law expert saying "well, no that's not what happened, this is what happened," they go with "lots of people are upset about Thing," and that becomes the story.
      Their experts probably don't even comment on it. They story is now that "some on social media are upset". Also the idea of a biased judge is more exciting story anyway and "more exciting story" almost always wins over "banal reality" because money.

    • @raycarter8070
      @raycarter8070 Před 2 lety

      ​@@ShivaX51 Yea, that was an interesting part to me after graduating. I always used to think that the media law experts would help my story tell something new or exciting. But I realize that a lot of them are applying general rules that you learn for the bar exam.
      To be fair though, you always have one or two stories due at five o clock, or else you're fired.
      There's not a lot of time to look for stories to "help" create the right legal picture. To me, social media-led stories can do some good with highlighting issues that you may not usually think about. Also, it's an everyday job. You can only be selected for so long on what you are going to report on (it's not a scholarly essay). You have to sometimes be really creative as a producer or reporter to stay employed. There's both good and with everything. But that's how the most companies run seem to run it now. I even see public media starting to do this.

    • @vest816
      @vest816 Před 2 lety +14

      Absolutely. The media coverage 100% failed in this case, and painted a completely inaccurate depiction of events. And I'm saying that about both wings of media, a stipulation that is absolutely embarrassing to actually recognize as existing (as you would expect news would be anything but politically motivated). I went into this case completely baited by the media's explanation of events, and after watching the trial for a few days, was absolutely grateful I got to see this played out in a courtroom. On day one of the trial, I was all like "ha ha how cute, this idiot kid pleaded not guilty, I look forward to seeing him hanging from the gallows."
      By day three, I was gesturing wildly at the prosecution, baffled as to why this case was even brought up. I was particularly upset at myself, because I let myself be baited by (let's call it what it is) politically motivated propagandists masquerading as journalists, and that I myself had failed spectacularly at assuming innocence until proven guilty. As futile as it is to wish upon a star, hoping certain court-ejected networks would stop embarrassing themselves doubling down on their proven lies long after the verdict, at least I have power over myself. These "news" networks might use this as a launching point to act even worse than they already are, but I'm using it as a reminder that I can and should be better.

  • @wakingcharade
    @wakingcharade Před 2 lety +191

    if every judge treated every defendant like this, we'd have a very different legal system. It's not that being hard on the prosecution is bad, its that it's odd who gets this treatment and who doesn't. If every person forced into a plea deal for crimes they didn't commit had access to a judge and defense this strongly on their side, we'd have a different situation

    • @jwatson181
      @jwatson181 Před 2 lety +4

      The sad truth is that mostly poor or low IQ people are in prison.

    • @andrewscott8892
      @andrewscott8892 Před 2 lety +4

      It has more to do with class then race, just come look at prisons in New Mexico

    • @wakingcharade
      @wakingcharade Před 2 lety +15

      @@andrewscott8892 where did i say race? i didnt?

    • @davyboy9397
      @davyboy9397 Před 2 lety +21

      It's called being impartial , every judge should be this way. Literally certain politicians and media talking heads are calling for activist judges and DAs.... We need impartial judges and DAs not politically motivated ones, regardless of which side they support !

    • @KaleRylan
      @KaleRylan Před 2 lety +6

      @@davyboy9397 I agree with this for the most part. I will say in this particularly situation I feel that leaving out propensity evidence was a bit biased because the whole case hinged on his mental state. There wasn't a question of what he did, that was on tape, the question was WHY he did it, and I feel like in that situation mentioning potential propensity towards violence is valid. That said, I don't think it's egregious and I think for the most part this sounds like it was handled well from a legal perspective if not from the perspective of justice and I do strongly believe in the doctrine of innocent until proven guilty.

  • @josephbrambil2868
    @josephbrambil2868 Před 2 lety +2

    Way more people need to watch this video! Thank you for making it

  • @matthewcole4734
    @matthewcole4734 Před 2 lety +288

    There's a technical explanation that needs to be understood about the zooming debate. You can put an image under a magnifying glass and that's no problem. But the issue here is that when the image was enlarged, there was a process called "interpolation". A smaller number of pixels have to be made into a greater number of pixels.
    This would normally result in a blurrier image, but the interpolation algorithms used basically use AI to examine the existing pixels and essentially guess what pixels to add to create the most accurate image.
    In 99% of use cases, not only is this acceptable, but it's a good thing. The problem with this particular case during the trial is that the picture was taken from very far away. The blurry clump of pixels that the prosecution was alleging showed a gun was a tiny spec. This is NOT the sort of thing you want to trust AI guesswork with.

    • @RuiShu
      @RuiShu Před 2 lety +28

      I doubt most existing products will actually use data-driven super-resolution algorithms by default. That said, I fully agree with using nothing but nearest-neighbors zooming for a trial and the burden is rightfully on whomever provides the evidence to make sure their zooming software is performing only that. Better yet, provide everyone a magnifying glass. It seems like the defense had a much better pulse on Judge Shroeder's technical judiciary approach than the prosecution team.

    • @Gcsmith12
      @Gcsmith12 Před 2 lety +50

      Yeah, when people were yelling at the judge for not trusting the zoom, I was sitting there thinking of CSI zoom and enhance cliche. You can't both zoom and enhance without adding data to the image. It might not mean much normally, but when you're hinging a life on it... it matters.

    • @kato093
      @kato093 Před 2 lety +18

      The problem with the picture is you literally had pixels showing...something and the interpolation would ADD pixels via an algorithm that would just GUESS wtf those other pixels were.
      Was it a gun or an arm? The zoom could have just made shit up and make the arm look like a gun and that would have all been made up pixels. And with life in prison or complete freedom on the line, you cant have a shitty picture that shows nothing be the deciding factor after an algorithm modifies it by guessing what the pixels show.

    • @GamesFromSpace
      @GamesFromSpace Před 2 lety +20

      I work with medical imaging software, and I have to be aware of the same issue. I really don't want to screw up the shape of a tumor just for the sake of it looking less blocky.

    • @seriousbees
      @seriousbees Před 2 lety +9

      Even without that, you're left with the problem of inflating the significance of small pixel amounts. Compression artefacts and digital camera noise can make something look like something is there that isn't in reality

  • @Saimeren
    @Saimeren Před 2 lety +133

    I like that Mr. Binger is the kind of man that wears Star Wars pins to court. He's also the kind of man who breaks all the firearm safety rules at the same time.

    • @JustinLatham
      @JustinLatham Před 2 lety +28

      Not his fault, he learned from Alec.

    • @justsaiyan47
      @justsaiyan47 Před 2 lety +15

      Lmao binger probably likes the new starwars movies, what a trash human.

    • @TiffanyWeiland
      @TiffanyWeiland Před 2 lety +14

      Binger having no clue how to handle firearms while prosecuting a firearm related case is hilariously ironic, but it's not even the most astonishing part of the trial! 🤣🤣

    • @MarisZadinans
      @MarisZadinans Před 2 lety +6

      He is probably too afraid of his wifes' boyfriend

    • @Cyriacus58
      @Cyriacus58 Před 2 lety

      You meant to say LittleFinger.

  • @Joshpower57
    @Joshpower57 Před 2 lety +5

    You literally just sidestepped the whole point that another video that was edited down was sent to the defense, not the correct video. Even the file name was completely different.

  • @hrmIwonder
    @hrmIwonder Před 2 lety

    Love the segues into the ad at the end!

  • @patrickcarder1644
    @patrickcarder1644 Před 2 lety +513

    Really appreciate this breakdown. The WSJ ran a very interesting piece shortly after the verdict that called attention to some of the “frightening” reactions to this trial and verdict. I think it’s very important for legal expertise to come out on top here rather than the emotions of the court of public opinion.

    • @thatcarguydom266
      @thatcarguydom266 Před 2 lety +56

      Other than the fact that this guy omitted some key details, such as the clear implications that the prosecution doctored the defense’s copy of the drone footage, and that the supposedly “racist” phone ringtone was the song “God Bless America”, this was an okay breakdown.

    • @RisingInTheFlesh
      @RisingInTheFlesh Před 2 lety +20

      Yup, wouldn't want the Twitter mob to have any judicial power

    • @meatisomalley
      @meatisomalley Před 2 lety +29

      @@thatcarguydom266 god bless america is a pretty generic and popular rural country song. It's not neccesarily a trump song, or a racist song.

    • @IllusiveDev
      @IllusiveDev Před 2 lety +13

      @@meatisomalley Also the fact that he is a judge, you shouldn't be too surprised that he would be a bit patriotic.

    • @logitimate
      @logitimate Před 2 lety +16

      @@thatcarguydom266 "God Bless the USA" (1984, by Lee Greenwood, sometimes referred to as "Proud to be an American," although that's not actually the title), not "God Bless America" (1918 and revised in 1938, by Irving Berlin). The Greenwood song has stronger (though not total - Beyonce did a cover in 2008) partisan associations, as well as being less of a classic overall. Still, it's been in prominent political use since the year that it was released (Reagan used it at the 1984 Republican national convention; it got popular again during the Gulf War, and then again after the September 11 attacks); it's far from being exclusively a Trumpist song.

  • @estuardo2985
    @estuardo2985 Před 2 lety +56

    bwuhahaha, I love that grin you had when the judges ring tone point gave you the ad tie in for ting. You have the same expression as when someone is about to tell a bad dad joke.

    • @michaedove3562
      @michaedove3562 Před 2 lety +1

      Thought I recognized the look...heh

    • @marka4204
      @marka4204 Před 2 lety +1

      I thought that too but fair enough most CZcamsrs do their plug at the start of the video which is way more annoying than at the end.

    • @jaymzx0
      @jaymzx0 Před 2 lety +1

      Legal Eagle has the best ad transitions, I swear.

  • @jasonroos5781
    @jasonroos5781 Před 2 lety

    Your segue into Ting mobile was a thing of beauty haha -- ive never heard of them before but now ill never forget them. Well played, sir.

  • @necrocleric13
    @necrocleric13 Před rokem

    The way you rolled into the Ting promotion was awesome 😆

  • @Mr.Rogers91
    @Mr.Rogers91 Před 2 lety +20

    Two mistakes by the prosecution? That seemed very intentional. We are presumed innocent and the burden falls on the State. We definitely want to favor US not the STATE

  • @BigDaddyGAO
    @BigDaddyGAO Před 2 lety +53

    TL:DR legal takes from social media are usually wrong, wait to hear from the experts. Great breakdown as always.

    • @sharpfang
      @sharpfang Před 2 lety +3

      Hope you're not implying the "experts" on legacy media like CNN?

    • @jhonabatil6875
      @jhonabatil6875 Před 2 lety +2

      He’s a lawyer. I think he knows what he’s talking about.

    • @michaelsnydermusic
      @michaelsnydermusic Před 2 lety +1

      @@sharpfang he said social media, not news media.

    • @cubeman9766
      @cubeman9766 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sharpfang especially when the "witness" openly lied on there channel
      saying the things he said on trail wasn't true(which if he did lie in the court the case would not only be dropped but also he would be in major trouble for lying in court)

    • @sharpfang
      @sharpfang Před 2 lety +1

      @@michaelsnydermusic He said "hear from the experts". The news media get various "experts" to speak on air, saying what the media want them to say.