Trina standing in the background watching Joss and Gio was so wrong on so many levels. If she was going to be overlooked like that she should have been left out of the scene. This scene says a lot
@@GeekWars121 So you believe that the writers like her bc they’ve previously written her in the forefront? What’s happening now is them slowly introducing her into scenes so they don’t rush this new relationship? I’ll say that if I’m wrong I have no issue in admitting that. That being said, I don’t believe that’s what’s happening here. They wrote for her in part bc the character was well received. They gave her a mother and a father. Fans noted her being rejected by the boys within her set, so they gave her Spencer. Sprina’s popularity developed quickly and the show ran with it to an extent. But if we’re being honest, they often worked to minimize them while they were together. Waiting almost 2 years for a first kiss, the addition of esme last minute(according to NAC), them adding in Ace, and last year’s summer story that had many fans tuning out. Now, Trina has lost her boyfriend, isn’t having scenes with her any of her parents, no story of her own since Spencer died(not even a coherent grief arc), and they’re causing tension between her Ava. That leaves her right back where she started, in joss’s orbit as a support. Which I believe is where they like her. And ppl will make excuses bc the truth sounds nasty. Trina is allowed to shine, but not too brightly. Especially compared to their preferred young lead. Also, ratings are in the toilet. They’re leaning into stunt casting to try and create buzz. This is the worst time to sideline popular characters and not listen to fan concerns. They think they know better than the audience, so instead of stories for Black characters, we’re getting one episode of Morgan and Lucky returning.
It's pretty obvious that Gio-Joss-Dex is a triangle set-up. Trina is basically wallpaper or furniture in this scene. Tabyana is too gorgeous, charismatic and talented to be stuck in a back corner the way this show is attempting to do with her.
So basically Joss is flirting with another version of Cameron. She didn't want Cam once she saw Dex now she all up in this little dude's face. Why not just bring Cam back
Taby is too much of a class act, a sweet soul to be that transparent with us fans. So unfortunately, at this point we won't know the true story any time soon about what she's going through bts and how she feels about the material she's been getting these past 5 months. It has to be disheartening because when she came she had to hit the ground running with the material she was given at the time and she'd been involved in so much from that point on, until now. Also, if she's wanting to have a career in this industry she has to choose her words wisely because they are quick to blacklist a black woman in this industry
@@GeekWars121 I hear you but just like you're saying things can be great bts, the opposite can be true as well. It's possible to like the people you work with bts but that doesn't mean you have to enjoy the job. You're right none of us know for sure. I will say if you're a young artist that wants to create great things, which I feel Taby does, this current writing and direction of her character can not be satisfying for her. Regardless of whether she stays or not, we have eyes and we can see that the current material she's getting is limited and lackluster. Especially after all the material she was getting up until NAC left. Also, she can't just quit, she's under contract, so she has to stay until her contract is up unless they let her out of it early. Also, we're not asking for Gio to confess his undying love for Trina, a lot of us are not seeing the interest towards Trina that you are describing, not even as a friend. Maybe that will change soon but up until this point, most of his scenes have been with Joss
@keepitreal3479 I think that she has to be disappointed privately that Trina has been put in the background for months when most people watching GH wanted to see Trina's grief on-screen not just awkwardly hear about it from her awkward insta Dad Curtis. I don't expect to see Tabyana on GH past her current contract which expires early next year and the writing has been on the wall already for months. Tabyana did an interview where she mentioned what she wanted to see for Trina and her ideas were good, what we see on-screen is a mess where most of Trina's connections to GH have been taken away.
@@amusicfan25a21 I agree. I'm tired of hearing excuses for the writing and for Taby's character to be consistently in the background since NAC left. It's not happening to the Joss character. Regardless of if we think her story is stupid or not, they've consistently written for her. Nobody said Trina needed to be on nonstop, we just wanted her to be properly written for, for Trina to have a grief storyline among other things but I guess that's just asking too much and we should be happy for the mess that we're getting
The agenda is heavy and clear. I really don’t want them to mess up Trava, but it feels like we’re headed there. Hopefully they can weather the storm bc this is one of the best friendships/connections on gh.
How much longer is Taby's contract because I'm tired of this show paying her dust after Nick left. She and Nick used head up storylines now we barely see her or when she is on she's in the background, barely saying anything or supporting other characters. They barely gave her a consistent story about her grieving Spencer. How are we supposed to believe this Gio character is into Trina when they barely together or even talk and Joss is always around when they do talk. I'm not seeing it. Where are people getting that this dude is for Trina anyway because he scenes I've seen looks as though he's interested in what Joss has going on. When Spencer came into town and saw Trina it was very apparent that he was into her, the show made that very clear, this Gio guy is barely paying attention to Trina.
I think that Trina is being used to prop up Joss and Gio and used as part of a bait and switch. Tabyana's contract is expiring early next year and I don't expect Tabyana to resign with GH for another three years.
Chavez has said he's not returning to the role if he's not why wouldn't GH recast Spencer makes me think they won't renew Taby 's contract even if she wanted to. Hopefully she will move on.
@@fayskidmore2714 Why would she want to resign with GH? There's no real incentive for Tabyana to stay on GH past her current contract. NAC could return briefly when Tabyana leaves GH early next year.
@@amusicfan25a21 She's definitely being used as a prop. What other purpose is she serving now? She has no story of her own. We don't see her with her family at all. She's just roaming around the canvas being a sounding board for other characters, mostly Ava and Joss. I used to enjoy the Trina/Ava scenes, now not so much. Gio has barely paid attention to Trina, hasn't asked her how she's doing after she walked out on him at the MC. He learned from Joss 🙄that her boyfriend died a few months ago and hasn't shown any interest in getting to know her and what she's been through from her. I'd be shocked if Taby re-signs because this is the last year of her contract and so far they've done nothing to show that they want her to stick around. I know it's not easy finding other projects but damn, they aren't even pretending to care about her character on this show
It makes absolutely no sense. Trina's relationship with Ava has always been special but it looks like the writers are about to ruin that for us Trina fans with this nonsensical writing. Nothing about that scene with Ava should've had Trina reacting that way. Ava thinks Sonny is threatening to take her daughter away from her, she would understandably be upset about that. Why would they have Trina not be more empathetic to what Ava is going through. I know Taby is not going to say it because she's such a sweet soul and she's trying to have a career in this shady industry but they've been doing her dirty since Spencer's death. She's had a few bright spots but it's mostly been bs.
I don’t get this scene. What was the point of this. Trina looked like she was part of the furniture. I saw the way they zoomed in on her. I really don’t like this scene. I don’t like how they’re making her almost invisible. Although I love seeing Trina. She’s why I watch this show.
This scene made me so mad, it took me back when Sean Butler was at Alexis Thanksgiving Dinner they had him standing way in the background while everyone else was totally ignoring him. I hate how they are treating her. Sean left the show shortly after that
I'm not here for messy love quadrangle BS. In the scene where Joss tells Gio about Spencer's death, the camera pans over to show Joss on the left, Dex on the right and Gio in the middle. Classic love triangle camera framing. Now, Joss is on the left, Gio on the right and Trina in the middle. It's on purpose to hint that the four of them are gonna get messy and entangled and I cannot stand love triangles. Let alone adding more people to the mix. Ugh.
Gio is way interested in josslyn than trina they talk more scenes i barely seen trina on scenes gh wrirers making trina an forgotten character trina deserves more to be onscreen i don't see gio and trina as a couple #trinavoicematters
Umm. I'm not sure what is going on with Tabyana Ali in these scenes. She hasn't been acting her best. She looks like she's in a daze. Her energy is gone.
Trina is too mature for Gio. He's a little boy. Trina need someone like Spencer. He was cultured and educated. Gio is just the cute pool boy. Let's face it Nicholas Chavez is a hard act to follow. Gio doesn't even come close.
I keep hearing the excuses about the issues bts could be why Trina hasn't been a focus yet they manage to find a way for other characters to have something to do. There were ways that Trina could've had focus after Spencer's death but she hasn't. A grief storyline was there. She watched the love of her life die right in front of her yet they barely put any focus on that. She could've been more of a focus in this Heather nonsense they got going on since she's been impacted the most in recent years by Heather and her crazy family. People need to stop giving this show excuses for mistreating poc characters. How else do we expect change if we're constantly providing excuses for them to keep doing what they are doing. Trina hasn't had a scene with her own mother in months. There are ways to incorporate Trina more into these stories but they haven't. Point blank period.
I want to give GH the benefit of the doubt and say that NAC not returning threw them for a loop. But come on! Really, the best they can do for Trina is have her stand in the background like a third wheel? How is Gio getting more air time than she is?
You're right. Gio just got there yesterday, and he is on screen all the time. Let's call it what it is... GH Is playing the racist card. They have pretty much tabled all their Black characters, and they don't seem to care that the fans are pointing out the obvious. It is obviously all very intentional on their part. If it wasn't, they would have corrected their ways as soon as the fans point out their misdeeds. As for Spencer not returning, I am not sure if it is NAC who don't want to return or if it's GH who failed to meet his asking price to return to the show. Notice that GH not only brought back Steve Burton (Jason) , but they are also planning to bring back Jonathan Jackson (the original Lucky and a legacy character). I am sure they need a big budget to pay these actors their demanded salary. Maybe GH is banking on these 2 characters to get them their ratings and did not feel it was important enough to give NAC his asking price to come back. Even though Sprina is the best and most popular love story they had going on in recent years, they never quite treated Tabyana right, and they never fully endorsed the importance and impact of Sprina like they would a white on white couple. I know these people (GH) try to play dumb and pretend not to hear what Sprina fans are saying, but the fact of the matter is they know exactly what they are doing. They are being racist to Tabyana, they know it, it is intentional, and they don't care. Looking at the the totality of the circumstances, there is no other explanation for the difference in treatment of white characters versus Black characters (Look at the actress who plays Brook Lynne mother, Blaze, and Blaze mother...what do they have in common? They are all Johnny come lately who just got to GH, but are part of major storylines...how do you explain that discrepancy! They want to let Heather out of prison because Haley Mills won an Emmy and they want to expand her role on the show. Well, the Black gentleman (my opologies, I forgot his real name at the moment) who plays Marshall and Trina's grandfather won back to back Emmys for the last 2 years running, and I have not seen him on screen forever now...again, what is GH's explanation for that gaffe). You know when Sprina, Tabyana's Black fans complaint they call us rude and trouble makers, but when the white fans express their hatred and ugliness towards Sprina and Tabyana, they have nothing to say. Why is that? Well, because their whole strategy is about deflecting the truth and taking whatever Sprina and Tabyana fans says and twist it around to make themselves look like the victims. Something we all can visibly see through. "When they show you who they are, believe them." Period. I am a Sprina and Tabyana fan who gave GH the benefit of the doubt many a time, but they always end up showing their true color, and it is not a pretty site. Again, "When they show you who they are, believe them."
If you don't mind me asking, what's lead you to believe that Gio is for Trina. Maybe I just need someone to explain it to me since I'm not seeing it myself.
@@GeekWars121 I appreciate your thoughts on this. Just to be clear, I'm not wanting Trina to be in any type of romantic relationship, I just kept seeing comments about how Gio is interested in Trina and I don't see it. I personal think it's too soon for Trina to be interested in anyone. If others see the interest on Gio's part and if the actor is saying they will have more scenes together in the future than we shall see. I'm just going off of what's been put out on screen to this point and after the MC scenes it's been nothing. Which again I don't have an issue with because I don't think Trina is in a place to date anyone right now. I'm fine with them developing a friendship
@@CatchupGirl71Oh, the writers are not confused, they are too experienced for that (let's not give them an excuse for their racist ways). They are being very intentional in the way that they write and portray Tabyana's character (after all, if you are not doing something intentionally, you should be able to correct your ways as soon as people point out what's wrong with what you are doing. Haven 't we've been pointing out and calling out the writers in volume for their wrongful portrayal of Trina and Tabyana). In my opinion, they were hoping that now that NAC is out of the picture that Tabyana's popularity as Trina would be on the decline so they could phase her out. They are finding out that it is not so easy to turn us away as fans of Tabyana in her own accord, and they are using that frustration we have created for them and taking it out on their portrayal of Tabyana. I for one will continue to support Tabyana and call out these writers for the differences in the portrayal of white versus Black characters. If we don't do that, no changes will ever come about, and the next Tabyana Ali will never get her chance. If we don't fight for each other, no one else will.
Josslyn is soo boring no matter who she is with or what storyline she is in she is always talking about sonny. Josslyn needs to get a life, her scenes seem pointless and more like viewers are listening to a broken record. From this scene I’m sure many people can tell the gh writers are just going to have Trina seem like a third wheel while josslyn shares most of her scenes with gio and Trina is a background player.
They use Trina to get you to tune in, then put her in the background or with very few lines. It took them months to make a statement, although Taby has been enduring a lot of hate for a very long time. The fans and this beautiful, talented,dynamic professional who brought in great numbers of viewers deserve so much more. But they are reverting to their old formula with the kinds of actors who are returning.
There were so many missed opportunities for Trina to have her own story arc with her grieving Spencer or this Heather nonsense but instead she's become a support character while we watch Joss/Cam 2.0 happen. One thing I will say about Joss is that her being pair with a good guys doesn't work, it's boring as hell. It didn't work with Cam and it's not going to work with Gio. Yes they look good together but the relationship will be boring as hell just like her and Cam's. Joss is just going to walk all over this dude like she did Cam. She needs someone that's not going to put up with her bs. It could've happened with Dex but they turned Dex into a pushover when it came to Joss instead of an edgy mob boss enforcer. That's why Dex didn't work because they made him too docile when it came to Joss, that's why her and Cam was a dud and that's why Gio will be a dud too. Unless they give this dude some spunk, it's going to be the same sh#t different day. They made Joss too self righteous and it comes across annoying as hell
@bonniewynn8476 It would be one thing if the powers that be could go one episode without mentioning Gio's musical career and not prop him up every time that he's on-screen.
Joss did say that but Trina is having the last laugh, Joss and Gio are working and Trina is standing back looking at them. I would not move in with Joss at all.
Now the actress did say on a podcast or some kind of interview that her character will be going through some changes . Maybe she will become a villain of some sort. And her target just might be Joss. Tabyana come on over to Y&R. were the black characters are front and center.
She has always been going through changes. Even Sprina was more than 2 years of angst and a few months Nov - Jan of them being actually together. Then he was killed at the end of Jan.
I think this story is going to impact her relationship with Ava. I hope Trina does get a dark side. It could be good story for her. She definitely needs more character development. That’s always been my issue with this character - lack of character development . I know it’s unpopular to say this, but Sprina hindered her character development. It’s because the writers couldn’t figure out how to give her romance and a story outside Spencer. They wouldn’t let her have both. That’s why I’m not interested in a Spencer recast anytime soon. She didn’t have a story once they put her with Spencer and I don’t want to see her go backwards. Trina can be Not a villain…but have a dark touch. I wish they would explore that with this Ava stuff.
The black characters on Y&R have been threatened by the same woman who threatened Tabyana and some on B&B. I heard the Gates might be interested in Tabyana.
This whole Taby situation is so sad. This young lady has been harrsssed by Trolls for over two years and its still going on. She is now just a day player who is under contract. But its not just Taby its All the Black Characters on GH. Its like GH is slowly dismantling the Ashford and Robinson Family But its not like GH hasn't done it before to a black family. The writers, producers, ABC and Disney should be ashame of themselves. I hope when her contract ends she leaves GH. She is talented and will land on her feet.
I do not like this. I feel like I’m being manipulated. I feel like they’re playing in my face. WTF is this? Is this Gio person supposed to be interesting? Remind me of Spencer? And Trina is what, like, part of the furniture while he has this vacant conversation with Joss? No thank you. Pass. Taby girl run. Your talent is sorely needed elsewhere. Look at miss maam from The Bear as a blueprint and gtfo of GH.
I won't write another long comment like this again. I just wanted to say this because it has been on my mind these last few days. This is just my opinion and I hope I don't get blocked over it. I know people are allowed to like what they like and feel what they feel but I think there were alot of fans who were really watching for NAC (yes, I mean the actor not the character). Now, that he is gone they can't seem to manage watching for Trina (yes, I mean the character). They can't seem to be invested in Trina outside NAC playing Spencer and It's sad. Full disclosure: I loved NAC 's portrayal of Spencer. I actually liked Spencer and Trina the best outside their relationship - but that's me. Their relationship isn't what kept me watching. I waited for them to have good individual storylines but for some reason with Trina ...they didn't do it. Once they officially put her with Spencer...HER story went away. I liked NAC and wish him well with whatever he does moving forward with Ryan Murphy and otherwise. Yet, he is gone. I am fine with that. Tabyana is still there. Trina is still onscreen. I don't worry about when Spencer is coming back. He will come back eventually when they build up the Cassadines again and build a story for him to come back to. So, I'm not worried about it. I'm more interested in watching Trina who is there RIGHT NOW and seeing HER journey. I would think if someone was a real fan of Trina - they would watch for Trina regardless of her pairing as long as the chemistry is there. They should be interested in Trina's journey instead of worrying about when Spencer comes back. They ARE giving Trina a own story - they are working on it now. It will involve Ava. The "romance" with Gio will NOT be her primary story for awhile. The main story will be her situation with Ava. Gio will play his part eventually because he is devoted to Sonny in the same way Trina is devoted to Ava. So, something is clearly going to happen with Ava. I think they are trying to keep some of the plot under wraps. Anyway, I think that's where people got confused. I think people were expecting her to start up with Gio as soon as he got onscreen and it was kind of marketed that way. Yet, I saw that wasn't going to be the case and I like the way they are handling it. I wish they hadn't marketed the way it was - but then again that's how things go. I'm a writer myself and have done some marketing so I get how promotion can work. People need to get used to not taking everything at face value with marketing. They use gimmicks to attract people - it's a business. Can't take it too seriously and get upset when things don't go the way you thought onscreen. I think since I come from that world I know what to expect and don't take it seriously. I just wait to watch what is going on onscreen. Let's be real - people would have complained regardless because they wanted a Spencer recast right away, so many weren't going to give Gio a chance anyway. Then if they had pushed Gio on Trina too fast - they would have complained and said "she is still grieving". So...it was going to be a damned if you do...damned if you don't situation regardless regarding Gio. I think they knew they weren't going to rush Gio and Trina. I think that was always the plan to take it slow. He HAS shown interest...he just isn't all up in her face every minute. Joss told him her boyfriend died and you noticed his reaction. He isn't going to come on strong because he knows that isn't where her head is right now. Yet, he IS interested. I think that was the RIGHT way to tell the story. If they would have told the story as if it was a "love at first sight" thing people would have complained about that - and said he was trying to be Spencer! So, they are doing this right (so far).
I somewhat agree. As always l like unbiased views. NAC/Spencer was great but Trina needs a storyline outside of him and the writers have not been doing that. I’m not sure of your feelings in the Curtis situation. But for me Taggert should have been Trina’s Bio father. He pretended to be dead to keep her safe. If the guy who plays Curtis wanted a fam for his character, there are many ways the writers could have written that. If NAC wanted to leave to pursue other acting jobs. He should. I hope Tabyana (Trina) does the same. GH, ABC, and Frank) aren’t giving any incentives for her to stay.
I just get friendship vibes almost like siblings/cousins from Gio and Joss. I still think that eventually Trina and Gio will be close and he’s for her. Trina and Gio have chemistry and I have seen how he looks at Trina. But, they have to move slow. Trina can’t be with someone else yet. I’m gonna give it some more time to see what happens.
Same here. She's still into BatDex. I still believe Gio is for Trina; this episode kinda rubbed me the wrong way a little, but I'm not going to write him off. I think the writers are still doing a chem test with Trina, Joss and Gio and just trying to see who Gio shines with the most. We'll just see what next month brings as I found out that Taby and Giovanni taped quite a few scenes for July
@@mudeasno1baby73 I am going to wait and see what happens too. I love that Taby and Giovanni taped a lot in July. Thanks for letting me know. I can’t wait to see those scenes.
Yeah you’re right it feels like Gio and joss have almost like a friendship sibling vibe I picked up on it when Gio and in one of the episodes. He said , Joss you’re kind of bossy” almost like an older sister, so I don’t think people should be worrying about Joss I really think Gio has only eyes for Trina. He said it in an interview a few weeks ago, saying that he’s talking to Trina and forming a great connection with her.and he’s having more scenes with Trina Im July
There is no chemistry between Gio and Trina. Truthfully there should be more time for Trina to grieve Spencer. Spencer was always intentional about Trina where Gio just hangs out with Joss. Tabyana/Trina deserves a better story line than this. After Nick left GH writers have dropped the ball. Would love for Tabyanna to look for projects worthy of her❤. This aint it . #Trinasvoicematters
I Bro I feel like the writers dive into pissing off viewers sometimes cause for weeks now people have been complaining about Trina's screen time and they finally have her on just standing like wth. Lool that's crazy I don't have a problem with either Joss or Trina but am all for equality so the writers better come correct. Also I don't like Ava but her relationship with Trina is the one thing she has going for her besides Avery so I don't think they should mess that up by making Trina ditch her like Kristina did with Sonny Trina knows from long time that Ava not winning no popularity contest in town. Also am not mad at a romance triangle or quadrangle I love Trina and Joss' friendship but the need some obstacle and a juicy love problem is great for daytime long as they recover from it
I think that Gio is being set up to fail on GH because because there are other actors and actresses who are singers and musicians on GH but Gio is basically playing himself on GH with no acting ability needed and having to hear that Gio plays the violin every time he's on-screen really doesn't help him. Daytime Emmy Award winning actor Jonathan Jackson is also a musician who is an actor, I highly doubt that we will have to hear how he's a musician every time that he's on-screen because Jonathan Jackson is a strong actor, Gio isn't. Gio is a musician who is trying to be an actor, and it's not working. I think that Tabyana will be leaving GH when her contract expires early next year, and the writing has been on the wall already for months, and she deserved to have a love interest who is a man instead of a teenager and Trina didn't deserve to be treated like sloppy seconds again. I think that the powers that be set Gio up to fail miserably and they wanted a sweet and boring guy who won't upstage Dex. Gio has already worn out his welcome as there are several characters who were on GH before he was and aren't given much to do. I think that Tabyana will have no trouble finding work outside of GH when her contract expires early next year.
GH Literally Put Trina In The Background & Not Saying Nothing, Trina Deserves Better.💯 #TrinasVoiceMatters
I thought that was so odd too
@@GeekWars121 GH Is Giving Tabyana Crumbs, This Is Why Tabyana Is Leaving Next Year.
I wholeheartedly feel that Trina is always in Joss’s shadow whenever they’re in a scene together…
Agreed. Even when they're not in a scene together, the writers have Trina bringing up Joss. Its annoying at best & a waste of Taby's talent at worst.
It’s really gotten worse since Spencer’s death. Seems like the writers are trying to make a statement.
Joss does that to everyone in Port Charles. It's not new.
Trina standing in the background watching Joss and Gio was so wrong on so many levels. If she was going to be overlooked like that she should have been left out of the scene. This scene says a lot
@@GeekWars121 So you believe that the writers like her bc they’ve previously written her in the forefront? What’s happening now is them slowly introducing her into scenes so they don’t rush this new relationship?
I’ll say that if I’m wrong I have no issue in admitting that. That being said, I don’t believe that’s what’s happening here. They wrote for her in part bc the character was well received. They gave her a mother and a father. Fans noted her being rejected by the boys within her set, so they gave her Spencer. Sprina’s popularity developed quickly and the show ran with it to an extent. But if we’re being honest, they often worked to minimize them while they were together. Waiting almost 2 years for a first kiss, the addition of esme last minute(according to NAC), them adding in Ace, and last year’s summer story that had many fans tuning out.
Now, Trina has lost her boyfriend, isn’t having scenes with her any of her parents, no story of her own since Spencer died(not even a coherent grief arc), and they’re causing tension between her Ava. That leaves her right back where she started, in joss’s orbit as a support. Which I believe is where they like her. And ppl will make excuses bc the truth sounds nasty. Trina is allowed to shine, but not too brightly. Especially compared to their preferred young lead.
Also, ratings are in the toilet. They’re leaning into stunt casting to try and create buzz. This is the worst time to sideline popular characters and not listen to fan concerns. They think they know better than the audience, so instead of stories for Black characters, we’re getting one episode of Morgan and Lucky returning.
It's pretty obvious that Gio-Joss-Dex is a triangle set-up. Trina is basically wallpaper or furniture in this scene. Tabyana is too gorgeous, charismatic and talented to be stuck in a back corner the way this show is attempting to do with her.
So basically Joss is flirting with another version of Cameron. She didn't want Cam once she saw Dex now she all up in this little dude's face. Why not just bring Cam back
Gosh I wish we could pick Tab’s brain on how she feels about the scenes she’s been doing. Because this is just plain sad at this point
Taby is too much of a class act, a sweet soul to be that transparent with us fans. So unfortunately, at this point we won't know the true story any time soon about what she's going through bts and how she feels about the material she's been getting these past 5 months. It has to be disheartening because when she came she had to hit the ground running with the material she was given at the time and she'd been involved in so much from that point on, until now. Also, if she's wanting to have a career in this industry she has to choose her words wisely because they are quick to blacklist a black woman in this industry
@@GeekWars121 I hear you but just like you're saying things can be great bts, the opposite can be true as well. It's possible to like the people you work with bts but that doesn't mean you have to enjoy the job. You're right none of us know for sure. I will say if you're a young artist that wants to create great things, which I feel Taby does, this current writing and direction of her character can not be satisfying for her. Regardless of whether she stays or not, we have eyes and we can see that the current material she's getting is limited and lackluster. Especially after all the material she was getting up until NAC left. Also, she can't just quit, she's under contract, so she has to stay until her contract is up unless they let her out of it early. Also, we're not asking for Gio to confess his undying love for Trina, a lot of us are not seeing the interest towards Trina that you are describing, not even as a friend. Maybe that will change soon but up until this point, most of his scenes have been with Joss
@keepitreal3479 I think that she has to be disappointed privately that Trina has been put in the background for months when most people watching GH wanted to see Trina's grief on-screen not just awkwardly hear about it from her awkward insta Dad Curtis. I don't expect to see Tabyana on GH past her current contract which expires early next year and the writing has been on the wall already for months. Tabyana did an interview where she mentioned what she wanted to see for Trina and her ideas were good, what we see on-screen is a mess where most of Trina's connections to GH have been taken away.
@@amusicfan25a21 I agree. I'm tired of hearing excuses for the writing and for Taby's character to be consistently in the background since NAC left. It's not happening to the Joss character. Regardless of if we think her story is stupid or not, they've consistently written for her. Nobody said Trina needed to be on nonstop, we just wanted her to be properly written for, for Trina to have a grief storyline among other things but I guess that's just asking too much and we should be happy for the mess that we're getting
The agenda is heavy and clear. I really don’t want them to mess up Trava, but it feels like we’re headed there. Hopefully they can weather the storm bc this is one of the best friendships/connections on gh.
“Did you think I was Trina?”
“Yes”
Why would Trina be knocking on her own apartment door??!?
Mmhmmm see that's that mess. Subliminally sending messages like Trina is just a guest in this whole storyline.
How much longer is Taby's contract because I'm tired of this show paying her dust after Nick left. She and Nick used head up storylines now we barely see her or when she is on she's in the background, barely saying anything or supporting other characters. They barely gave her a consistent story about her grieving Spencer. How are we supposed to believe this Gio character is into Trina when they barely together or even talk and Joss is always around when they do talk. I'm not seeing it. Where are people getting that this dude is for Trina anyway because he scenes I've seen looks as though he's interested in what Joss has going on. When Spencer came into town and saw Trina it was very apparent that he was into her, the show made that very clear, this Gio guy is barely paying attention to Trina.
I Agree, GH Need To Bring Spencer Home.💯
I think that Trina is being used to prop up Joss and Gio and used as part of a bait and switch. Tabyana's contract is expiring early next year and I don't expect Tabyana to resign with GH for another three years.
Chavez has said he's not returning to the role if he's not why wouldn't GH recast Spencer makes me think they won't renew Taby 's contract even if she wanted to. Hopefully she will move on.
@@fayskidmore2714 Why would she want to resign with GH? There's no real incentive for Tabyana to stay on GH past her current contract. NAC could return briefly when Tabyana leaves GH early next year.
@@amusicfan25a21 She's definitely being used as a prop. What other purpose is she serving now? She has no story of her own. We don't see her with her family at all. She's just roaming around the canvas being a sounding board for other characters, mostly Ava and Joss. I used to enjoy the Trina/Ava scenes, now not so much. Gio has barely paid attention to Trina, hasn't asked her how she's doing after she walked out on him at the MC. He learned from Joss 🙄that her boyfriend died a few months ago and hasn't shown any interest in getting to know her and what she's been through from her. I'd be shocked if Taby re-signs because this is the last year of her contract and so far they've done nothing to show that they want her to stick around. I know it's not easy finding other projects but damn, they aren't even pretending to care about her character on this show
Hopefully ava doesnt do anything stupid.
2 dead boyfriends for Trina. Those interested in Joss- Oscar, Dev ,Cam , Dex, Gio? 2 of those died also. But do we see a pattern.
Why are they making Trina ,like she afraid of Ava...Ava is Trina ride or die
I hate the writing
It makes absolutely no sense. Trina's relationship with Ava has always been special but it looks like the writers are about to ruin that for us Trina fans with this nonsensical writing. Nothing about that scene with Ava should've had Trina reacting that way. Ava thinks Sonny is threatening to take her daughter away from her, she would understandably be upset about that. Why would they have Trina not be more empathetic to what Ava is going through. I know Taby is not going to say it because she's such a sweet soul and she's trying to have a career in this shady industry but they've been doing her dirty since Spencer's death. She's had a few bright spots but it's mostly been bs.
I don’t get this scene. What was the point of this. Trina looked like she was part of the furniture. I saw the way they zoomed in on her. I really don’t like this scene. I don’t like how they’re making her almost invisible. Although I love seeing Trina. She’s why I watch this show.
Brock on his channel did not like how they zoomed in on Trina. I did not like it either.
@@marshagreen9759 yes it’s an odd choice for her to be standing back there like that. She’s not even a part of the conversation.
This scene made me so mad, it took me back when Sean Butler was at Alexis Thanksgiving Dinner they had him standing way in the background while everyone else was totally ignoring him. I hate how they are treating her. Sean left the show shortly after that
@@latonyafulton7151 I think the actress did not like this scene at all. We didn't and I bet she didn't.
@@sandymoon4159 I recall Sean Butler, they did him wrong.
I'm not here for messy love quadrangle BS. In the scene where Joss tells Gio about Spencer's death, the camera pans over to show Joss on the left, Dex on the right and Gio in the middle. Classic love triangle camera framing. Now, Joss is on the left, Gio on the right and Trina in the middle. It's on purpose to hint that the four of them are gonna get messy and entangled and I cannot stand love triangles. Let alone adding more people to the mix. Ugh.
Gio is way interested in josslyn than trina they talk more scenes i barely seen trina on scenes gh wrirers making trina an forgotten character trina deserves more to be onscreen i don't see gio and trina as a couple #trinavoicematters
Me Neither, This Is Why GH NEED To BRING Spencer Back.💯🙌
@@SonnyWinning I agreed
Agree 100%
@@SonnyWinning I agree with you.
Agreed
Maybe Trina will shine light on how Ava’s been messing with Sonny’s meds 🤷🏽♀️that’s my guess
Umm. I'm not sure what is going on with Tabyana Ali in these scenes. She hasn't been acting her best. She looks like she's in a daze. Her energy is gone.
The writing that they are giving her would suck the life out of anybody.
Trina is too mature for Gio. He's a little boy. Trina need someone like Spencer. He was cultured and educated. Gio is just the cute pool boy. Let's face it Nicholas Chavez is a hard act to follow. Gio doesn't even come close.
I keep hearing the excuses about the issues bts could be why Trina hasn't been a focus yet they manage to find a way for other characters to have something to do. There were ways that Trina could've had focus after Spencer's death but she hasn't. A grief storyline was there. She watched the love of her life die right in front of her yet they barely put any focus on that. She could've been more of a focus in this Heather nonsense they got going on since she's been impacted the most in recent years by Heather and her crazy family. People need to stop giving this show excuses for mistreating poc characters. How else do we expect change if we're constantly providing excuses for them to keep doing what they are doing. Trina hasn't had a scene with her own mother in months. There are ways to incorporate Trina more into these stories but they haven't. Point blank period.
I want to give GH the benefit of the doubt and say that NAC not returning threw them for a loop. But come on! Really, the best they can do for Trina is have her stand in the background like a third wheel? How is Gio getting more air time than she is?
You're right. Gio just got there yesterday, and he is on screen all the time. Let's call it what it is... GH Is playing the racist card. They have pretty much tabled all their Black characters, and they don't seem to care that the fans are pointing out the obvious. It is obviously all very intentional on their part. If it wasn't, they would have corrected their ways as soon as the fans point out their misdeeds.
As for Spencer not returning, I am not sure if it is NAC who don't want to return or if it's GH who failed to meet his asking price to return to the show. Notice that GH not only brought back Steve Burton (Jason) , but they are also planning to bring back Jonathan Jackson (the original Lucky and a legacy character). I am sure they need a big budget to pay these actors their demanded salary. Maybe GH is banking on these 2 characters to get them their ratings and did not feel it was important enough to give NAC his asking price to come back. Even though Sprina is the best and most popular love story they had going on in recent years, they never quite treated Tabyana right, and they never fully endorsed the importance and impact of Sprina like they would a white on white couple. I know these people (GH) try to play dumb and pretend not to hear what Sprina fans are saying, but the fact of the matter is they know exactly what they are doing. They are being racist to Tabyana, they know it, it is intentional, and they don't care. Looking at the the totality of the circumstances, there is no other explanation for the difference in treatment of white characters versus Black characters (Look at the actress who plays Brook Lynne mother, Blaze, and Blaze mother...what do they have in common? They are all Johnny come lately who just got to GH, but are part of major storylines...how do you explain that discrepancy! They want to let Heather out of prison because Haley Mills won an Emmy and they want to expand her role on the show. Well, the Black gentleman (my opologies, I forgot his real name at the moment) who plays Marshall and Trina's grandfather won back to back Emmys for the last 2 years running, and I have not seen him on screen forever now...again, what is GH's explanation for that gaffe).
You know when Sprina, Tabyana's Black fans complaint they call us rude and trouble makers, but when the white fans express their hatred and ugliness towards Sprina and Tabyana, they have nothing to say. Why is that? Well, because their whole strategy is about deflecting the truth and taking whatever Sprina and Tabyana fans says and twist it around to make themselves look like the victims. Something we all can visibly see through.
"When they show you who they are, believe them." Period.
I am a Sprina and Tabyana fan who gave GH the benefit of the doubt many a time, but they always end up showing their true color, and it is not a pretty site. Again, "When they show you who they are, believe them."
Gio is for Trina. However, I understand how this interaction with Joss confuses people. The writers feel they have to center Joss in everything.
If you don't mind me asking, what's lead you to believe that Gio is for Trina. Maybe I just need someone to explain it to me since I'm not seeing it myself.
@@keepitreal3479ur not alone don't c it either
@@GeekWars121 I appreciate your thoughts on this. Just to be clear, I'm not wanting Trina to be in any type of romantic relationship, I just kept seeing comments about how Gio is interested in Trina and I don't see it. I personal think it's too soon for Trina to be interested in anyone. If others see the interest on Gio's part and if the actor is saying they will have more scenes together in the future than we shall see. I'm just going off of what's been put out on screen to this point and after the MC scenes it's been nothing. Which again I don't have an issue with because I don't think Trina is in a place to date anyone right now. I'm fine with them developing a friendship
You're not alone!@@keepitreal3479
Ava and Trina have a great relationship maybe she doesn't want to jeopardize that
I am so confused about what the writers are doing
It appears the writers are majorly confused as well.
@@CatchupGirl71Oh, the writers are not confused, they are too experienced for that (let's not give them an excuse for their racist ways). They are being very intentional in the way that they write and portray Tabyana's character (after all, if you are not doing something intentionally, you should be able to correct your ways as soon as people point out what's wrong with what you are doing. Haven 't we've been pointing out and calling out the writers in volume for their wrongful portrayal of Trina and Tabyana). In my opinion, they were hoping that now that NAC is out of the picture that Tabyana's popularity as Trina would be on the decline so they could phase her out. They are finding out that it is not so easy to turn us away as fans of Tabyana in her own accord, and they are using that frustration we have created for them and taking it out on their portrayal of Tabyana. I for one will continue to support Tabyana and call out these writers for the differences in the portrayal of white versus Black characters. If we don't do that, no changes will ever come about, and the next Tabyana Ali will never get her chance. If we don't fight for each other, no one else will.
Josslyn is soo boring no matter who she is with or what storyline she is in she is always talking about sonny. Josslyn needs to get a life, her scenes seem pointless and more like viewers are listening to a broken record. From this scene I’m sure many people can tell the gh writers are just going to have Trina seem like a third wheel while josslyn shares most of her scenes with gio and Trina is a background player.
It’s really annoying
They use Trina to get you to tune in, then put her in the background or with very few lines.
It took them months to make a statement, although Taby has been enduring a lot of hate for a very long time. The fans and this beautiful, talented,dynamic professional who brought in great numbers of viewers deserve so much more. But they are reverting to their old formula with the kinds of actors who are returning.
@@bonniewynn8476 Exactly what GH is doing to get Trina's fans.
There were so many missed opportunities for Trina to have her own story arc with her grieving Spencer or this Heather nonsense but instead she's become a support character while we watch Joss/Cam 2.0 happen. One thing I will say about Joss is that her being pair with a good guys doesn't work, it's boring as hell. It didn't work with Cam and it's not going to work with Gio. Yes they look good together but the relationship will be boring as hell just like her and Cam's. Joss is just going to walk all over this dude like she did Cam. She needs someone that's not going to put up with her bs. It could've happened with Dex but they turned Dex into a pushover when it came to Joss instead of an edgy mob boss enforcer. That's why Dex didn't work because they made him too docile when it came to Joss, that's why her and Cam was a dud and that's why Gio will be a dud too. Unless they give this dude some spunk, it's going to be the same sh#t different day. They made Joss too self righteous and it comes across annoying as hell
Did the writers have Joss say " I need to put you to work" thinking Gio was Trina? That's coded. I don't like it. They know better.
She also said Trina should move the ladder, not Gio, because Gio had to protect his hands for the violin.
@bonniewynn8476 It would be one thing if the powers that be could go one episode without mentioning Gio's musical career and not prop him up every time that he's on-screen.
Joss did say that but Trina is having the last laugh, Joss and Gio are working and Trina is standing back looking at them. I would not move in with Joss at all.
@@amusicfan25a21 We know that Gio is a very talented young musician in real life and GH is making sure he will be treated with kid gloves.
@marshagreen9759 Gio being propped up by everyone else everyone that he's on-screen is off-putting to me.
Now the actress did say on a podcast or some kind of interview that her character will be going through some changes . Maybe she will become a villain of some sort. And her target just might be Joss. Tabyana come on over to Y&R. were the black characters are front and center.
She has always been going through changes. Even Sprina was more than 2 years of angst and a few months Nov - Jan of them being actually together. Then he was killed at the end of Jan.
I think this story is going to impact her relationship with Ava. I hope Trina does get a dark side. It could be good story for her.
She definitely needs more character development. That’s always been my issue with this character - lack of character development
. I know it’s unpopular to say this, but Sprina hindered her character development. It’s because the writers couldn’t figure out how to give her romance and a story outside Spencer.
They wouldn’t let her have both. That’s why I’m not interested in a Spencer recast anytime soon. She didn’t have a story once they put her with Spencer and I don’t want to see her go backwards. Trina can be Not a villain…but have a dark touch. I wish they would explore that with this Ava stuff.
@@lisacox5405i agree 💯 😊😊
The black characters on Y&R have been threatened by the same woman who threatened Tabyana and some on B&B. I heard the Gates might be interested in Tabyana.
@@marshagreen9759 i like trina on gh
I'm just confused on the writing, here. This dialogue/ interaction made little sense. What is the purpose, here?
GH wants the fans of SPRINA to fall head in heels in love with Gio, it is not working at all for me. I smell a rat.
@@marshagreen9759absolutely. I don't care for the Gio character.
@@fayskidmore2714 He is handsome but there is something about him being too nice and always on the scene.
This whole Taby situation is so sad.
This young lady has been harrsssed by Trolls for over two years and its still going on.
She is now just a day player who is under contract.
But its not just Taby its All the Black Characters on GH.
Its like GH is slowly dismantling the Ashford and Robinson Family
But its not like GH hasn't done it before to a black family.
The writers, producers, ABC and Disney should be ashame of themselves.
I hope when her contract ends she leaves GH. She is talented and will land on her feet.
Maybe they are zooming in on Trina for a reason…
So much flirting between Joss and Gio.
Gio is not for Trina, let Joss have him.
@@marshagreen9759 no it’s evident that this is not the case. Trina deserves better. I hope she has an opportunity to meet someone else.
I do not like this. I feel like I’m being manipulated. I feel like they’re playing in my face. WTF is this? Is this Gio person supposed to be interesting? Remind me of Spencer? And Trina is what, like, part of the furniture while he has this vacant conversation with Joss? No thank you. Pass. Taby girl run. Your talent is sorely needed elsewhere. Look at miss maam from The Bear as a blueprint and gtfo of GH.
I won't write another long comment like this again. I just wanted to say this because it has been on my mind these last few days. This is just my opinion and I hope I don't get blocked over it.
I know people are allowed to like what they like and feel what they feel but I think there were alot of fans who were really watching for NAC (yes, I mean the actor not the character). Now, that he is gone they can't seem to manage watching for Trina (yes, I mean the character). They can't seem to be invested in Trina outside NAC playing Spencer and It's sad. Full disclosure: I loved NAC 's portrayal of Spencer. I actually liked Spencer and Trina the best outside their relationship - but that's me. Their relationship isn't what kept me watching. I waited for them to have good individual storylines but for some reason with Trina ...they didn't do it.
Once they officially put her with Spencer...HER story went away. I liked NAC and wish him well with whatever he does moving forward with Ryan Murphy and otherwise. Yet, he is gone. I am fine with that. Tabyana is still there. Trina is still onscreen. I don't worry about when Spencer is coming back. He will come back eventually when they build up the Cassadines again and build a story for him to come back to. So, I'm not worried about it. I'm more interested in watching Trina who is there RIGHT NOW and seeing HER journey.
I would think if someone was a real fan of Trina - they would watch for Trina regardless of her pairing as long as the chemistry is there. They should be interested in Trina's journey instead of worrying about when Spencer comes back. They ARE giving Trina a own story - they are working on it now. It will involve Ava. The "romance" with Gio will NOT be her primary story for awhile. The main story will be her situation with Ava. Gio will play his part eventually because he is devoted to Sonny in the same way Trina is devoted to Ava. So, something is clearly going to happen with Ava. I think they are trying to keep some of the plot under wraps. Anyway, I think that's where people got confused. I think people were expecting her to start up with Gio as soon as he got onscreen and it was kind of marketed that way.
Yet, I saw that wasn't going to be the case and I like the way they are handling it. I wish they hadn't marketed the way it was - but then again that's how things go. I'm a writer myself and have done some marketing so I get how promotion can work. People need to get used to not taking everything at face value with marketing. They use gimmicks to attract people - it's a business. Can't take it too seriously and get upset when things don't go the way you thought onscreen. I think since I come from that world I know what to expect and don't take it seriously. I just wait to watch what is going on onscreen.
Let's be real - people would have complained regardless because they wanted a Spencer recast right away, so many weren't going to give Gio a chance anyway. Then if they had pushed Gio on Trina too fast - they would have complained and said "she is still grieving". So...it was going to be a damned if you do...damned if you don't situation regardless regarding Gio. I think they knew they weren't going to rush Gio and Trina. I think that was always the plan to take it slow. He HAS shown interest...he just isn't all up in her face every minute. Joss told him her boyfriend died and you noticed his reaction. He isn't going to come on strong because he knows that isn't where her head is right now. Yet, he IS interested. I think that was the RIGHT way to tell the story. If they would have told the story as if it was a "love at first sight" thing people would have complained about that - and said he was trying to be Spencer! So, they are doing this right (so far).
I somewhat agree. As always l like unbiased views. NAC/Spencer was great but Trina needs a storyline outside of him and the writers have not been doing that. I’m not sure of your feelings in the Curtis situation. But for me Taggert should have been Trina’s Bio father. He pretended to be dead to keep her safe. If the guy who plays Curtis wanted a fam for his character, there are many ways the writers could have written that. If NAC wanted to leave to pursue other acting jobs. He should. I hope Tabyana (Trina) does the same. GH, ABC, and Frank) aren’t giving any incentives for her to stay.
@lh7080 There's no real incentive for Tabyana to stay on GH, and I think that the writing is on the wall.
@@amusicfan25a21agreed.
@lh7080 The writing has been on the wall already for months, and the powers that be have taken almost every connection that Trina has on GH.
Perfectly said!!
I just get friendship vibes almost like siblings/cousins from Gio and Joss. I still think that eventually Trina and Gio will be close and he’s for her. Trina and Gio have chemistry and I have seen how he looks at Trina. But, they have to move slow. Trina can’t be with someone else yet. I’m gonna give it some more time to see what happens.
Same here. She's still into BatDex. I still believe Gio is for Trina; this episode kinda rubbed me the wrong way a little, but I'm not going to write him off. I think the writers are still doing a chem test with Trina, Joss and Gio and just trying to see who Gio shines with the most. We'll just see what next month brings as I found out that Taby and Giovanni taped quite a few scenes for July
@@mudeasno1baby73 I am going to wait and see what happens too. I love that Taby and Giovanni taped a lot in July. Thanks for letting me know. I can’t wait to see those scenes.
Yeah you’re right it feels like Gio and joss have almost like a friendship sibling vibe I picked up on it when Gio and in one of the episodes. He said , Joss you’re kind of bossy” almost like an older sister, so I don’t think people should be worrying about Joss I really think Gio has only eyes for Trina. He said it in an interview a few weeks ago, saying that he’s talking to Trina and forming a great connection with her.and he’s having more scenes with Trina Im July
There is no chemistry between Gio and Trina. Truthfully there should be more time for Trina to grieve Spencer.
Spencer was always intentional about Trina where Gio just hangs out with Joss.
Tabyana/Trina deserves a better story line than this.
After Nick left GH writers have dropped the ball. Would love for Tabyanna to look for projects worthy of her❤.
This aint it .
#Trinasvoicematters
Of Course Ava Poses A Threat,She's A Jerome.
Poor girls lost so much
Most boring couples Dex and Joss, Willow and Michael, Gio and that violin... 😅😅😅😅
Sam and Dante are pretty boring too.
I Bro I feel like the writers dive into pissing off viewers sometimes cause for weeks now people have been complaining about Trina's screen time and they finally have her on just standing like wth. Lool that's crazy I don't have a problem with either Joss or Trina but am all for equality so the writers better come correct. Also I don't like Ava but her relationship with Trina is the one thing she has going for her besides Avery so I don't think they should mess that up by making Trina ditch her like Kristina did with Sonny Trina knows from long time that Ava not winning no popularity contest in town.
Also am not mad at a romance triangle or quadrangle I love Trina and Joss' friendship but the need some obstacle and a juicy love problem is great for daytime long as they recover from it
So this gio guy is not here for Trina he is here for joss and if he is doing music joss is going to be the one to be his agent lol😅
He's for Trina, the actor mentioned that in an article. plus it looks like Joss and Dex will be getting back together
@@CrashN2U2011I Doubt That Dex & Josslyn Will Get Back Together Again Because Gio Is Interested Josslyn.💯
@@SonnyWinning time will only tell
@andreasalmon3430, he is there for Joss and I do not care how many say he is for Trina.
@@CrashN2U2011 Maybe he is there for Trina for another reason that we may not know of. We do not know much about him.
Fuck gh for going tabyana dirty i cried watching this scene as a black young girl . The racism is too much
I think that Gio is being set up to fail on GH because because there are other actors and actresses who are singers and musicians on GH but Gio is basically playing himself on GH with no acting ability needed and having to hear that Gio plays the violin every time he's on-screen really doesn't help him. Daytime Emmy Award winning actor Jonathan Jackson is also a musician who is an actor, I highly doubt that we will have to hear how he's a musician every time that he's on-screen because Jonathan Jackson is a strong actor, Gio isn't. Gio is a musician who is trying to be an actor, and it's not working. I think that Tabyana will be leaving GH when her contract expires early next year, and the writing has been on the wall already for months, and she deserved to have a love interest who is a man instead of a teenager and Trina didn't deserve to be treated like sloppy seconds again. I think that the powers that be set Gio up to fail miserably and they wanted a sweet and boring guy who won't upstage Dex. Gio has already worn out his welcome as there are several characters who were on GH before he was and aren't given much to do. I think that Tabyana will have no trouble finding work outside of GH when her contract expires early next year.