Porsche 911S, 1977, Is It Any Good?
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2021
- This is a silver metallic 1977 narrow-body G-Model. It belongs to an old friend of mine who only bought it some weeks ago.
Note: this film is available in 4K.
#porsche911 #classicporsche #restoration
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Love your videos as always. Cool format. Keep it coming :).
Nice to hear somebody appreciating an early chromed G-Model, over the usual G50 Carrera, or the out of price classics. So refreshing, and showing how much you know your 911s. Great job.
Thanks, Nicolas.
I just love them all.
been watching this video for the last year waiting for my 77 in bitter chocolate over cinnamon. Purchased it week before last and now waiting for it getting a new oil thermostat. I love this channel and it's helped me with the agony of waiting for my 911s the last year.
It’s great to read that, mate.
I’m just doing the edit of a front suspension repair of this very car.
Cinnamon means Kork in Porscheish?
Love the new video! Authentic, looking at the details, and helping the viewer to understand what a 911 feels like. Looking forward to more.
Thanks, Rodney.
Very cinematic and atmospheric film. I especially liked the almost grainy interior shot near the end of you and the owner driving along. I am sure this took an enormous amount of work.
Well done.
Thanks, James.
The shot at the end was a lucky coincidence, but I like it too.
Always a pleasure watching your videos, any format of them. Really great work!
"I keep caring less about leaky engines every year passing"...
That's deeply philosophical. :)
Wisdom of age I guess. 😆
I really like these car review videos you do, it’s a great addition to your channel, it’s actually something similar I did over on my car channel but mainly with trashy but cool American cars that I have a weakness for haha
Had a quick look at your channel. China connection! Very interesting …
@@GreasyFingers ah yes but my car channel is called Worthless Whips, what do you think of my C4 corvette video? It’s somewhat a similar idea to what you’re doing here
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I was looking forward to this new format you had announced. Well, it's just as I expected it to be: a quality production that's just as pleasant to watch as your usual workshop videos. By the way, I'm glad I'm not the only one liking the big-bumper 911s. People have been "backdating" these cars for decades now, without realizing that Porsche knew what it was doing in '74, and always had...
Grazie mille, Matteo.
I much like the design of the G-bumpers, but functionally, I have to say, they make a promise they can’t fulfil. Only the US cars had the hydraulic bumpers at all, any other markets were equipped with two simple telescopic steel tubes.
Both systems were operational only for short periods.
Absolutely, couldn't agree more.
@@gearhead9828 by the way guys , I have just import a targa 1987 Indian red to get a friend for my cab Red cassis 1987
I wonder if I will let the Targa with US bumpers and miles tachometer or change them to european standard ?
There are Pro and Cons . Your take ?
Steph
@@Steph-iw3hr Most of the US spec cars get converted. At the same time people are very keen about originality. Many years ago I had a 124 Spider with US bumpers, I liked it. So I would suggest to leave it original and better save the money for repairs and maintenance.
@@gearhead9828 thanks . Always good to hear from different saavy people
Thank you for a wonderful review of a marvelous car! My favourite line is, “The sound is composed of howling, screaming, roaring, bellowing, sawing, screeching. It’s fantastic!” 😀
Thanks, Stephen. Glad you like it. 😆
I like the way that you are showing your 911 with real scratches and other hint of use.
Thanks, Bob.
The older I get the more I’m able to appreciate some wear.
You're living a dream, a life of exploration. Yours is one of my favorite channels. And I also love the 70s 911s, the colors, the style. I still have the Porsche color catalog from 1976. My Dad asked the dealership to give me one and give me a test ride. I'll never forget it. Please keep making these lovely videos. Cheers.
Thanks for the comment, mate.
Can I ask you a favour to send me some pictures of this colour catalog please?
You’ll find my e-mail address in the About section of the channel or else you can contact me on instagram. Cheers!
@@GreasyFingers Will do
@@GreasyFingers I've sent some your way. Let me know if you get them.
@@superbug1977 Thanks, mate, it’s all there and I totally love it!
Enjoyed your video… I’m building a 77 911S right now, can’t wait to drive it when it’s done. Keep up the great work!
The first ride after the build has been finished will be from heaven. What colour is yours?
@@GreasyFingers It’s going back to the factory original “braun kupfer diamant”, all black trims and cork leather interior.
I used to have a 1982 SC so I can, to some point, relate to the 2.7 911 S (I now drive a 2022 Carrera 4S and do miss my SC). I enjoyed the video, and the background music isn't too obtrusive...
Love this channel..
Love your work!
Thanks.
Love your comment!
My Pcar is a 77’ 911 (ROW), my dad lived in Germany for 1-2 years in his very early 20’s and bought the car there in 81 or 82. When he moved back to the states he imported it under that loophole at the time (along with some Jags and other cars). But he always held onto the 911. He grew into racing them as he got more successful (in business and on the track) but this 77’ never saw more than a few “Drivers Ed’s”. When he passed 4 years ago he fortunately left me this 77’ 911 in Copper Brown Metallic. I have been sorting through the car myself on a shoe string budget the last few years (I’m not even close to as financially successful as my dad was by the time he was my age). The car has sat in the garage or hanger at the airport since the early 90’s so there’s a lot to do but I’m making my way through it one thing at a time. To me it’s a 1 of 1. As well as any old classic Porsche is a 1 of 1, it’s about the stories behind the car. I do t mind the crazy market for them but at the same time it doesn’t matter to me. I’m lucky to have mine and I probably won’t ever be able to afford another one. And I sure as hell will never sell mine as no amount of money can match what the cad means to me. Yes, I know that being emotionally attached to a machine is stupid. But an air cooled Porsche is not just another machine, especially one that has been in my life since the day I was born.
I will get this car sorted out and back on the road where it belongs over the next year or two. Then after that I will tackle winter projects on it every year to keep it on the road and progressing. And someday my son will have to take over the work on “poppa’s car” as he calls it.
With todays car and tech, we really are just “care takers” of these old relics. I’m just very thankful to be so fortunate. And I’m very thankful that I don’t have to deal with power steering or power brakes!
Thanks for reading this far!
I have one and it’s absolutely fantastic and it’s so easy to drive, effortless joy.
Same here!
😊
Great video another quality production.
Many thanks!
Great assessment of the 1977 911S. Mine was in Minerva Blue and the sound in second and third gear at red line was to die for. I got it when it had 10k on the odometer and all the needed updates were already done. It never gave me any problems and I still regret selling it due to a growing family. The narrow body and silver Fuchs wheels looked so good on that car.
Thanks for commenting!
There’s just one way to get over it: get yourself another one.
@@GreasyFingers My current fun car is a 1994 Miata inherited from my mother-in-law. Perfect low mileage example that
I´ve had fun tweaking that you can wring out without getting in trouble with the law. It´s tied with my old 1969 MG Midget as my second favorite sports car behind the 911S.
That’s a twin of my ‘76 S. I have been enjoying it for over 20 years. It sold new in the San Francisco Bay Area, and has remained there for 47 yrs. When the 2.7 wore out, the car received an ‘83 3.0 drivetrain. A wonderful car!
Thanks for commenting!
Unlike many 911ists I like the 3.0 a lot, especially the late one.
Beautiful film, like usual, i have a same 911, same year, same color , just finish the peint last week , i can't wait to see it ride, restauration take time ........
Cool Story, Wilfried. I hope the film will help to bridge the time till yours is back on the road.
Great new shoot. Enjoy watching all vids of your channel especially about 105s :) Oh, and when sun why not try sun glasses :D
Thanks!
There’s gonna be a lot of 105 material soon …
The details shots are excellent 👌
Thanks, mate! Doing my best. ☺️
Nice video. I am lucky enough to also own a 77 2.7S. Mine was an ex Californian car that I bought in the UK about 8 years ago. No history from the US at all, but I fell for it immediately. I now have it over here in Germany and I have personally rebuilt the engine, gearbox, brakes, suspension, steering etc in my Garage in the Eifel! These are also wonderful cars to work on as well as to drive! Keep up the good work!
What a great story, Jason!
And unfortunately just one week late, I traveled through the Eifel last weekend.
@@GreasyFingers ach Schade! I was going to ask where you are based?
@@jasonwright9555 Based in Munich area.
Nice colors.with silver metallic in the countryside . Format is good . Including a short interview of the owner ,.i guess your friend telling the story of the car when he purchased with Few pictures could be fine
I love the car and your videos with your nostalgic tone
Stéphane
Thanks for the feedback, Steph.
It’s part of the concept to focus on the car and keep the involvement of the owners to a minimum.
Petrolicious has a focus on the owners and as little Greasy Fingers Channel it’d be ridiculous to try doing the same thing.
@@GreasyFingers yes you're right . Being different is important for sure , didn't know petrolocious . Will.have a look
Nice week end
We have one with Lobster interior. It has been fun to get it ready for 2023!
I once knew a car in Lime Yellow with Lobster interior. And you know what? I liked it.
Hi, lovely clip. I'm on the brink of buying a 75. Had it checked by Porsche Center this week, few more things to finalize.
If you have the time to answer a few questions:
which "Dichtungsmittel" are you using on the crank case - seems the orange one although the green is recommended I believe for magnesium?
any consideration for the "line-boring" of the 2.7. Mine was recently rebuild but I can't find any information on it. Crankshaft seems a bit tight.
Hi Wim. Thanks.
Yes, 2.7 have to be line-bored when disassembled.
Ottimo restauro
Grazie tanto.
I have a 2.7, but it is a short stroke. Midyear 2.7 was prone to overheating, pulling head studs, and early valve guide failure. The mag case was overstressed. And then here in the US, we had those thermal reactors, which didn’t help with the longevity problems. The original ones leaked so much they changed their own oil. In the US it was considered the most undesirable engine, except the mechanical injected ones. In the US they purposely designed the engine to run hot so it would pass smog. As you know, heat kills these engines. A good 2.7 can be built, But in stock form it leaves a lot to be desired. I was not a fan of the CIS injection system. These used to be the most reasonably priced air cooled cars on the market.
Thanks for the insights, Rod.
I guess except the air pump system the hardware is quite similar and if the K-Jetronic is set-up for a more rich mixture things should be okay. Would you agree?
I‘m much interested in the topic these days, because I’m preparing a film about it.
@@GreasyFingers I don’t have much tuning experience with the K jetronic. I think the fuel delivery head was better in Europe. I have carburetors on my 2.7. I think the K jetronic was even put on the early turbos, but it didn’t have a plastic air box. I had a turbo engine with it, and it had metal injection lines instead of the plastic. I parted the engine out and never put it in a car.
Same year for mine, it is a TWB though.
Cool. What’s a TWB?
I have a 76 Targa and owned it for 30 years. I have kept it up but don't have your skills. Recently a problem with the passenger front fender has developed. Anarrow Crack in the paint on the fender just before the corner for the trunk lid. It is a little above and below the shock mount. The paint came off as a narrow strip . It would be easy to repaint but I am looking for the cause. The fender is bolted securely. Was denken Sie?
Hi Dennis.
This can have be the full range of reasons from totally harmless to nuclear. Usual suspects are the oil pipes where dirt can build up and sustain between pipes and body. Remove the wheel and see what you find under the fender …
Je älter , desto besser. Und vor allem ohne jeden Spoiler. Damit konnte man richtig gut die meisten Autos auf der Autobahn jagen. Das war früher normal. Nur deshalb bin ich gerne mit meinem Vater quer durch Deutschland zu Fußballspielen gefahren. Wir haben immer gezählt, wieviele BMW mit Motorschaden auf die rechte Spur rollten. Spätestens im Sommer nach einigen schnellen Kilometern. Wobei wir „nur“ einen 914 hatten, aber voll aufgerüstet auf 2,3 Liter.
Ist es nicht verrückt, wie sich diese Erinnerungen ins Gedächtnis ritzen?
Waren die BMWs in den 70ern wirklich so schmalbrüstig?
Maybe it was all that oil and grease that kept it from getting all rusty, maybe that was the original design …maybe not. I feel the same way about silver that’s a beautiful car.
A great testament to a great car by a meticulous owner.
Thanks, mate. Manicly meticulous.
In my 1977 porsche compendium are two models; The 911 (165hp) and the 911 turbo...there was no model „S“ in 1977 ? My ex 77 - 911 Targa was nice but the engine without any happy punch...good for cruise but nothing else.
Good question, don’t know for sure, but supposed answer is: your compendium relates to German models and in Germany at this time they sold the 911 and the 911 3.0 Carrera, the latter not conforming to US legislation. That’s why you could buy the 911S only in the US.
Shout-out to the community: true or not?
In the US the “standard” 1977 911 was called the 911S there was no “non-S”, but like you say it was the 165hp 2.7 engine.
@@DanMan68 Thanks for commenting, Daniel. I’m aware about this fact, but 911ists in Europe are confused by it seven days a week.
Another information I can contribute: the US 911S (2.7 with 165 BHP) at some point became the European 911 (no S) without any technical changes other than leaving the air pump away. Surprisingly however they labelled it 175 BHP.
@@GreasyFingers Got it, thanks! I have a 1977 but with a Carrera 3.2 engine in it (done by previous owner). I have done complete suspension rebuild including re-zinc plating all the fasteners / spring plates and it's amazing the difference it makes. Your videos are great reference for all the other items I need to do... wheelhouse restoration, oil lines, rust repair, wheel alignment, etc... thanks for making them!
What’s up with the black Targa on the side of the road? What is its story?
It’s oak green. It’s mine.
@@GreasyFingers Is a video forthcoming on the Targa or does one already exist? It looks beautiful. Is it also a ‘77? I have a ‘78 Targa but the Targa band is matte black, unlike the silver in yours. I’ll bet that green is beautiful.
@@cycleoflife565 Yes, I made a couple of films about it, you’ll find them on the channel. There’s a playlist dedicated to it. Unlike most 911 guys I love the 2.7 and I think with its meaty torque, it makes a great match with the Targa body. Is yours still a 2.7 or a 3.0 already?
@@GreasyFingers 3.0
My dad had one.
Unforgettable!
It seems like everyone is wanting the older G model like the one in this show - narrow body, lighter body and all the other things people rave about them. But for many years the 74-79 was the least desirable and were cheap to buy.
In 1968 I bought my first P-car which was a 1958 Super coupe 356-A in silver. First love is the love that lingers, they say. But that car had only 4 cylinders, weak brakes and lights but it was beautiful and I don’t regret anything about buying that car - but I wouldn’t buy one today even if I had the money because of the negative comments I mentioned. Sadly I had to sell it to go to college.
In the middle ‘80s I bought a slightly used 911 SC. I didn’t like the color but my mechanic said if I didn’t buy it he would...I bought it that day. I loved driving it but I didn’t have a love relationship with it, just a pal to have fun with. I sold it when we moved out of the area.
Then four years ago I bought my ‘86 Carrera and added and upgraded everything over a couple of years. I have not driven in a water cooled P-car or the new big and everything-new P-cars. I wouldn’t buy anything over a 1994 (964). After that the body is not a body I want to look at everyday; but I covet the engine and transmission of the newer cars.
I am now ready to answer your question, “Porsche 911S, Is It Any Good?”. I love the look but for me it is missing all the niceties like good brakes, lights, a/c, and a few other things as well. For a long lasting relationship with a car, a car used everyday, the beauty has to go deeper than the surface longing. But let’s linger for a moment on the S model in your video, it is beauty incarnate, I drooled a little on my keyboard. But I drool and have whimpers of happiness every time I get into my ‘86. So I guess I am kind of a slut, loving beautiful G body Porsches.
Because of the upgrades on my car it is FasT (Steve Wong chip, SSI header, sports muffler), no rust (when they butt welded the turbo steel flares, they found rust on the body and cut it out), all new suspension, real leather, 356 square-weave carpet, one-of-a-kind alloy rims, Ruf front and rear bumpers modified and MORE. I designed the look I wanted for my last P-car and I now have it and it is in my garage.
Me so lucky, and the owner of the 1977 he so lucky too.
“A garage without a Porsche is just a dark hole” - Walter Rohrl - Porsche Development
Okay, now I want to see it!
Please send me a picture of the 86 via mail (address in the about section) or Instagram, private message.
The full SSI equipment is on my list too.
Kind of slut … 😆😆😆
Yes.
Next question
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@@GreasyFingers I only own porsche cars. Living the dream.
79' 930
2003 996TT
2010 957 Transsyberian
@@randominternetuser2888 Wow! Can I pick one?
Dommage qu'il n'y ai pas la traduction en français, sinon good vidéo
Oui, ce n'était malheureusement pas encore possible pour cette vidéo.
Mais : depuis les 5 dernières vidéos, les sous-titres français sont disponibles !
K jet a naightmare when it comes to repairs and fuel consumpcion especially 928 with kjet
911 till 89 my beloved body for 911. But for daily would rather take 964 for a weekend drive it can be 2.7-3.2 carrera from the 80ies
True, it’s an enormous effort to keep a K-Jet car going. Especially combined with an interrupter ignition. The Hall sensor introduced with the SC relieves some of the pain.
❤ Toyota Corolla GR❤
Oil leak, white smoke...
Oil leak would be blue smoke.
White smoke means water leak, but actually, you know, not much water to leak here.
@@GreasyFingers My father in law owned a red Porsche 911 Targa from 1976. The magnesium engine case was very fragile. I remember the smell of the oil and the white smoke. He sold it later. Incredible car by the way.
You’re definitely right with this one, Pierre. The magnesium cases are very leaky and fragile. I fear the day when I’ll have to rebuild mine.
@@GreasyFingers Yes. And especially if you break a threaded stud when changing the exhaust line. I saw this!
@@pierrec8563 🥶
I would love to see all cars have an automatic vaccine reader and only start if you're up-to-date with your COVID-19 boosters. How cool would that be?!
That would be fantastic!
@@GreasyFingers Also a racism-tracker! It scans your eyes and if it detects racism, the car doesn't start
That's a car.
The rest.... just metal things.
Thanks, Andrea.
I do agree!