Testing the Strangest Chain Saw Sharpener on Amazon - Surprising results!
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- čas přidán 20. 01. 2020
- I ran across this interesting idea for a chain saw sharpener; will it turn out to be trash or a treasure?
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This is what I found, PowerSharp chains and not conventional chain Use. I hope this helps regards Alan from the UK
FYI, people, that chainsaw chain sharpener was not designed for common chainsaw chains as you see in this video. You have to upgrade your chainsaw bar and chain in order for it to work, the new design chainsaw chain looks like a bunch of small wood chisels.
I agree there's no way a concave whetstone can sharpen any normal chain on a chainsaw, its physically impossible. There's absolutely no way a concave whetstone can get into the blades of a normal chain. This was the reason I wanted to see it in operation and from the outcome I have not had my belief changed. But I am glad you agree, and told me of this new chain that it can sharpen. So you have saved me the cost of buying this on ebay and unfortunately I will have to continue with the round file. Thank you for clearing this up for me it's much appreciated.
This also looks like the knockoff. There's a Chinese company that pops up occasionally it's been going on for years now. Technically the first one that came out with this was organ and they have a patent and they have a special bar and chain as you said. It's the locking mechanism here that gives it away as one of the knock-offs and it will ruin a normal chain
If you use any Chisel chain it does work as long as you use a Chamfered Chisel chain.
Thanks for the review
Blessings
Those sharpeners are made for a specific style chain not a standard chain
Which type is that???
Powersharp by oregon.
China knock of does not point it out for various reasons
Fair review - it does work to a degree - I drilled the bar so it could clip on - it sharpened the chain ie top of it (not a special chain either) & is ‘fine’ for my purposes - but I’m not a lumberjack & I don’t have any lumberjack shirts in my wardrobe either 👍
Thanks for testing the product
Stop
You have to have the matching chain for that particular sharpener please Stop. This sharpener is not designed for normal chainsaw chains.
amzn.to/2TMI3si if you can find that in the description of this item please let me know:) All I see is broken Chinese English talking about "any chain" and "most brands" "Suitable for most 14" to 20"inch one/two-hole chains of the market"
@@SSLFamilyDad sorry my friend I don't know as I would never use this type of chainsaw sharpener all I know is it's I think designed for a particular chain I am a retired tree faller and have sharpened many chains by hand and on a professional grinder as far as I know pretty much needs a special chain I thought they was available both together chain and sharpener find out a little more first my friend we have your best interests at heart like your channel and we like that you love Heavenly father so please find out more about the types of chain the item is used for very best regards Alan and Ella from the UK
This seems to be a scam in a sense, definitely some degree of dishonesty. And most of the reviews are likely paid or fake.
There is an official Oregon product - powersharp, look it up. It requires a special chain that gets sharpened from the outside, I havent used one before but have seen the chain, they're definitely a special weird looking chain.
The Chinese sharpener resembles the Oregon shaperner almost exactly, but they apparently are unable to make or would get in trouble for some patents or trade mark by selling the knockoff special chain or making it clear that only Oregon powersharp chains work with this. I haven't used it, but pretty sure it will work fine with the powersharp chains.
I've been curious about using the real product, probably not for serious work, but doing some light clearing or cutting some saplings all the way at the ground for a new path, would be kind of handy. But the china (or Oregon) sharpener will not work with standard chains)
The Oregon comes as a kit, and apparently the sharpener wears out first, creating some demand for a cheap china stone, they just dont point that out for one or many reasons
I saw this gimmick on some commercial. The problem with this idea is that when you sharpen a chainsaw chain you file the under side of the tooth not the top of the tooth. I am surprised that it even worked at all. Even to use it in a pinch, you will spend more time fixing your chain when you go to properly sharpen it later. :)
You are absolutely right. I thought the same as you
Without reading any comments and by now Im sure you know that you need another chain. Also its not going to work with that saw the chains they take are for a smaller saw.
I think you should have made a third cut after sharpening the blade your way. This would show the difference in a properly sharpened blade and a dull one.
Hey Dad, I saw another review of that thing, the guy who did that also had to buy a chain from the same company.. then it worked pretty good .. for him.
Yes I agree it's for a new type of chain. It's impossible to sharpen normal chains. Thank you for the clarification and see junkman4126's comment which agrees totally with you.
I bought a craftsman chainsaw years ago that came with the original design. It had a special chain. What you have is probably a Chinese knockoff. It does not work without the proper chain. It probably just knocked off the burrs your chain had... no way was it sharper. The original design did work for a quick sharpening ... great for someone who is just doing minor yard work... but the blade never really stayed sharp for very long.. if this design worked well... the pro's would be using it today. It was just an over priced gimmick to make people think you could sharpen a chain .. in a few seconds. But it's sales and returns put a quick end to it
That sharpener is a chain specific sharpener not made for conventional chains they make their own chain to work with the sharpener
Also there own bar with 2 holes
"You better get back in formation!"...Haha! Go ARMY! I noticed that when you were using the sharpener that it seemed you were hitting the ground at an angle? That may account for the uneven wear on the stone. Should it be going straight up and down? Not sure...can't see the directions. ;)
The main problem is that he is using the wrong type of Chain. this sharpener requires a Power Sharp chain. Oregon did this ones
I bought one for the husband and he refuses to use it because...1: he broke the chain saw and 2: he thinks it's stupid and won't work on his saw blade. So, thanks for trying it out for me and showing me that he is probably right....again...**sigh** Shalom!
Lol, he might be!
Only for oregon powersharp chains
Yeah typical chainsaw sharpeners work tooth by tooth from the inside of the tooth, while the saw is off. It takes quite a bit of time to sharpen a saw if it is very dull. This tool works from the outside in which work work for a typical chain.
Thanks, I've learned from this thanks, you're a gentleman 👍👍☺
If it does not Say Oregon its a China Copy. You need to get the oregon self sharpening starter kit!
Yes the chips look better ... But I always leave the chips on the ground and bring the logs home.
Now get your file out and fix the chain right ...
lol
The bigger the chips are the faster it is cutting the wood as long as it has been sharpened evenly on both sides to keep the chain running straight. That applies to all chins and saw blades no matter what you sharpen it with. I did watch a video from the maker of the product saying it was designed to work with a special chain made with double drags to help make it run even on the sharping rock to keep the cutting angels the same. But him saying the wood chips being bigger shows it being sharper is correct as long as you don't get your cutting angels different from side to side and tooth to tooth.
It seems to need to be modified for the second pin. Otherwise it looks as though it may take care of the chain throughout the day but a good hand sharpening is needed every so often
You have to have a special chain and bar made for that sharpener
Hello from Michigan
Like others have said, there's a special chain that goes with that sharpening system. As for the chain you already sharpened with it, throw it out. Your chain shouldn't have any material ground off the top of the tooth. As far as I'm concerned, that thing is a gimmick, JMO. I've watched other Creators do a review on those things and a special chain is definitely needed.
Yeah, someone sent me a picture of the other chain with strange teeth on it, interestingly there is no mention of that anywhere in the instructions or product description. It is marketed as a chain sharpener for any chain.
@@SSLFamilyDad, Yes, I went and looked at your link and it confirmed what you just said, funky looking chain. I posted a question asking why they don't tell people they need a different chain. I saw a review done by the Crazy Russian Hacker and I believe he stated a special one was needed.
@SSLFamilyDad it's a terrible horrible Chinese company that doesn't care about you that made a counterfeit of one piece of a three-part Oregon system which is the bar, the special chain and the sharpener. I saw this a few years ago and I'm coming back to it now because I am a homeowner that rarely sharpens a chain so I don't have the muscle memory and skill-set to do a good job when I only sharpen every couple years and I'm fully aware of that. It's so sad that these companies can get away with these blatant counterfeit and then Market them 2 people who will then destroy a good chain thinking that they're doing something wrong. They definitely scammed you
@@SSLFamilyDad But you never edited the video to make that clear.
@@NoZenith😅 you are right
The saw sounds like it wasn't working as hard. And chain style does matter. Thank you
Got mine on ebay with 6 stones and it works fantastic if you install it correctly with the two holes I drilled a extra hole in my bar it stops it moving about all for £6.45 including delivery
It’s designed for a special chain to be used with it lol!
I bought that same chainsaw blade sharpener a year ago used it two times and threw it in the trash
Haha me also
Get the 2in1 file setup from XXXX manufacture. They sharpen to like new and are quick once you get the hang of them.
Sharper lols... even the goose laughed at you, the sharpner stone you have are for a different chain... youtube , chainsaw teeth how to . etc.... the tooth does not get sharpened by removing the top :)
Did you use the correct chain? These sharpeners are a ripoff of an Oregon product and they require a specific chain.
That might be true but it doesn't say that in the product description anywhere or what chain would work. Also, not sure how a different chain would make a difference, you are still only sharpening the top of the tooth
Can't trust the thieves to understand what they've stolen. Read the original, Oregon information. It makes a major difference.
DON'T DO THIS AGAIN. Please! The Chain you sharpened was meant to be sharpened in the gullet. This device is made to sharpen a special Oregon chain with a different cutter on top. This wrecked the chain even more than hitting dirt and rocks. I'm not fussing at you; but don't do this! If you want to use this sharpener, buy the Oregon chain it was made for; but looking at the stone in the sharpener you used tells me it is ruined. There are lots of ways and devices to sharpen the good chain you had on this saw easily. Just look them up here on CZcams. Using a round file even without a guide is better than this thing. If you add a cheap stump vice, it's even better. You can use a Dremel tool with a guide and a rotary stone. That's what I do in the field sometimes. You can buy a cheap sharpening machine. Anything, just not this.
PLEASE DON"T USE THIS ON THIS TYPE CHAIN. This sharpener is for the Oregon Chain it was designed for which is completely different. I will give some advice here: Look on CZcams for videos on sharpening your chain. There are many ways and most are very easy and cheap. A file and a stump vise is probably the easiest. You may not do it perfectly at first but it will be way better than this thing. Next is even more important. If you hit rocks or a nail, stop immediately and put on your back up chain. If you continue to use it, it will radically shorten the life of the chain (costs abt $25). I'm not saying this just to be mean. I want your experiences with a saw to be better and safer.
@@SSLFamilyDad Link to original products. Designed for easy use in the garden. www.oregonproducts.co.uk/en-gb/powersharpr/what-is-powersharpr.html
I thought the the same thing about the chain but as I was installing it I received two cut from the chain and I new it was going to be good. After a few trees I was convinced it wasn't a bad buy
You need a special chain for it do not use on traditional chains.
so your taking off the top of the chain? Just seems like your going to turn that into a low profile chain real quick & probably have to do your depth gauges every time. Seems like a great way to ruin a chain. I do appreciate you demoing it though!
Thanks for video. The problem with this sharpener from China is that it’s only skimming the top of the chain & not sharpening the curve part of the tooth. There’s a lot better sharpeners out there & some for less money. Cheers 👍
I totally agree, see junkman 4126's comment.
Hes using the wrong style chain. The sharpener hes using is for a special kind of chain
As far as using it on traditional type chains, the one area I can see this being useful, even if it wasn't the intended purpose of the manufacturer.... is if you've spent some serious time on a chainsaw and sharpening them yourself....... you've had times where you hit something and the top of the teeth would get rounded. When that happens no amount of tooth sharpening will help. The chain is almost useless. I could see where this would help the tooth rounding by flattening out the top.
Takes a different chain, on a regular chain it only touches the top on the tooth. JUNK? I think so.
I got one in the mail today, the chain on my saw is newer and I really don't want to take it off to put the old one on but your video was helpful I will comment again later
Thanks for the demo! I decided not to invest in this item after watching your video due to knowing the chainsaw blades get sharpened from the under side. Not the top side. Its obvious to me it's just a gimmick.
If it seems to good to be true it is. That chain has hit something and needs some top notch filing.
Started watching, then thinking, he is going to put the other chain on right. Maybe he is going to do a comparison between the standard chain and the "power sharp" chain, nope
I was amazed it still cut after that. I nick a stone once and the bar is pulling to one side or I am pushing the saw as hard as possible just to get through the last 2 inches of the log.
I actually have one, never used it though. I think same as you, it is only any good for a quick sharpen if your in a hurry, it would eventually wreck the chain.
you need the chain from oregon made for that tool
“ Get back in formation “ Made me laugh
I have this kit but never used it. My bar only has one hole also. Did you remove the other pin in the sharpener so that it would fit a 1 hole bar system?
The chain saw brand is called Oregon
Read the comments. Without the special chain (meant to sharpened from the top), it will ruin your chain. Most chain teeth are supposed to be sharpen from the bottom, not the top.
It’s meant to flip and reuse - chain tension and light pressure to the spring is required
Need to use “ their” chain.....and waste of time
I have one and used it once... now I have a new chain and a piece of junk chain and sharpener thats headed to the trash.
Missing the rakers, and definitely not getting the gullet.
Stihl makes a manual sharpener 4 passes per tooth, like a new chain, hits all three perfectly.
“Hey get back in formation!” Hahaha
Love the video Todd!
Those sharpen the chain, but at a fairly steep cost in money and time. First, you have to use a special chain that you won't find at the local hardware store or Home Depot...they must be ordered, along with a new grinding stone with EVERY chain replacement. You better have several on hand because if you don't and screw up a chain on rock or metal in the wood you are cutting you are out of the wood cutting activity until you order one and wait for it.
Second, grinding the chain with the Ever Sharp instead of learning how to file a chain and using a file when the chain dulls cuts your chain life by AT LEAST 50%, probably more like 70%. You will use 2-4 Power Sharp chains for the same qork that a single regular chain would do.
Its a gimmick designed to make you spend a lot more money on chains and to have to spend it on Power Sharp chains.
Looks like it makes your chain as sharp as a bowling ball.;-]
Nope it doesn't work at all i brought one dont waist your money
Appears you will be needing to buy a lot of sharpening stones. Maybe, as others in comments suggested, a chain designed to be sharpened in the manner this gadget sharpens won't eat up the stone so quickly.
Chain is different for it
The kit includes the bar, chain and sharpener. Doesn’t sharpen regular chains.
to true you want the oregan powersharp sytem ive been useing them for a few years now the chain is like a small chisel completely different to a standard chain
10:18 gullet, not gulley
Fair enough, maybe I like to combine valley and gullet?
@@SSLFamilyDad maybe I like to combine stoop and ID
Those sharpener have special chains .so you gotta use the right chain for it to work right
I guess if you’re going for nice shavings it works great!! I woulda preferred the cuts to be half the time as the dull chain, not just 1.003 seconds faster!!
That only grinds the outside rather than sharpens the inside. Might be sharper but changes the effective cutting angle of a normal chain. Bit like sharpening both sides of a chisel.
I have one and tried it and it sort of sharpened it a bit but it was not fantastic
My comment may be a little late but I'd love to see the SECOND time you try to use it, with the giant gouge it left in the stone the first time.
I’d like to see a longer term review. Where you have 1 chain that you always use that sharpening guide on. I also think the chain and sharpener need time to get mated to each other for better sharpening
You need a different chain for that sharpener.
I can see that this destroys the chain much faster then any other sharpener. . It should be obvious that it is reducing the cutting edge. I think you should have said to trash it. . Maybe it will work on some special chain with an entirely different cutting principal, but none I have seen.
You are very correct. There is a bar, chain and this sharpener in a three-part system from Oregon. This is a complete counterfeit from a scam company out of China. It's been going on for years. I'm doing the research and there's all sorts of information online now from the last couple years. Oregon put out a special chain that is meant to be sharpened this way that fits on a bar that perfectly fits up against that concave sharpening stone. There are some decent videos that show it works pretty well.
I personally am a whole note that only sharpens a chain every couple years and I do a very bad job freehand so I'm looking at everything from simple old school metal plates that attach to the file and those clunky sliding hinging apparatus that clamp to the bar and even glanced at the grinder units but my dad used chainsaws growing up as he Heats with wood and I used to go out and help him get wood and when he took his chains into the shop after getting into a fence line and then hurting his hand at work before he got to sharpening them, we got them back in those grinding wheels destroy the temper of the steel. The teeth turned blue and red and yellow from the Heat and they wouldn't hold a good Edge after that and my dad is actually pretty good at hand filing because he grew up doing it and if the only way he's ever sharpened. He's actually so good at it that he has multiple sizes of files and would continue filing his chains until they were basically unusable.
So for someone who doesnt know how to sharpen a saw, this would be a good idea
you are correct, some people are even able to sharpen each tooth on a saw but end up getting the sharpening angels off from side to side making the chain run to one side and makes the saw cut crooked and jam or wedge the bar into the log during the cut. When I was a young teen trying to make extra money cutting firewood I would run into this until I had an old Pulpwooder show me how to sharpen a saw and about the angels, depths, and how very important it was to keep it all even.
What do people normally do to sharpen a chainsaw?😊
Take it to ace hardware 🤦🏻♂️🤣🤣😂
I use a file (round file)
Oh that's the one you were telling dad and I about ya?
I cant remember if I had it then but probably! So.....results, it kind of works but not really, lol
Just bought one, waiting its arrival, appreciate this vid as it seems like a quick fix if your busy and need to get the job completed...
Nooooooooo it’s not made for standard saw chain!!!! Do some research before you wreck your chains.
Nope its dosent work i use files and though it would work nope dont sharpen chains it just screws them up
These sharpeners grind the wrong side of the teeth. They take the top edge off instead of the bottom of the teeth. This sharpener will make the tooth thickness thinner and thinner grinding the top of the tooth off until the chain is destroyed. The correct way to sharpen is with a round file pushing back and up from the underside of the tooth or a grinder designed for sharpening chain saw chains.
I can see that this destroys the chain much faster then any other sharpener. . It should be obvious. I think he should have said to trash it.
Too Late to tell you it's junk!
Real junk ! Yes, throw it in el fuego ! And, no, you don't just drill a second hole in your chainsaw bar ! It's not just any standard steel. And it sharpens nothing, just damages it.
Needs a special chain designed specifically for that sharpener, you chain is now probably scrap now. Oregon power sharp we’re one of the distributors of this product.
Some people are just clueless, but still make videos.
How is it even meant to work as you have to take a file to the teeth ? Basically it is a chain blunting device
Bud that is not how you sharpen a chain . You are only sharpening the top of the tooth and not the cutting edge there. that sharpening tool does not sharpen the concaved cutting surface at all.
I always wondered what wood happen if some fool ran a power sharp stone on a standard chain.
You need oragon self sharpening chain and speacial bar only them make chains
Ya its for your standard chain its made for a specific type
That sharpener is not for that chain, that sharpener is for a Power Sharp chain ONLY! The tooth is a different shape and it works a lot better on it.
The chains are chrome plated, and that's how they manage to hold an edge. That thing will take the chrome off and destroy the chain. I know you realize already it will be problematic, but just in case.
Besides having a special chain for it you need to see if the sharpener is the real thing or the Chinese ripoff.
I have one of the Oregon sharpeners like that and if used with the matching Oregon chain designed for it, works well. Drawback is it doesn’t work on most regular chains and while the chains may get sharp, they wear out faster than regular sharpeners. The one in the video is just a knockoff and will likely never perform to as high level as the original ones do.
Hey Folks, This is based on the Oregon PowerSharp system and is not safe to use on a conventional chain. Don't use this as you'll damage your chain and possibly yourself.
Those logs when frozen cease to be wood and become rock....you should be using a diamond blade
OMG this is not for regular chainsawchains it's built for special chain
Aside from never working, it also breaks the chain. Any tree cutter would turn in their graves when they saw crap like this. The teeth are usually sharpened from the inside. That thing doesn't make any sense at all.
its obviously going to move around on the stone the way you seemed you just press it down it would of wobbled at an angle, not an even pressure
There is more to it than just sharpening the top of the teeth with reg saw chains. Some people are even able to sharpen each tooth on a saw but end up getting the sharpening angels off from side to side making the chain run to one side and makes the saw cut crooked and jam or wedge the bar into the log during the cut. When I was a young teen trying to make extra money cutting firewood I would run into this until I had an old Pulpwooder show me how to sharpen a saw and about the angels, depths, and how very important it was to keep it all even.
i think it would shorten the life of the chain
>30sec to cut a half rotten log with a big Husky??? That sharpener sure chewed up your chain, must've been a REALLY dull chan to begin.
😂😂😂
Wrong sharpener for your chain, it only is meant to sharpen the specific chain it was designed for. It will not sharpen a standard chainsaw chain!
Try a 2 in 1 chainsaw sharpener for standard style chains, sharpens and files depth guides down at the same time.
Why didn't your chain look le the type designed for this sharpener
How could you believe you could sharpen chisel chain with that round stone ..
Bruh..
You will go through chains more than ever by this improper sharpening method. And yes... the depth gauge is a very important part of the chain.
Why would you want to sharpen the top of the blade until it is ground down to equal the depth gauge?
Oh... now all you have to do is sit down and file the depth gauge down.
WHAT !!!
Surprising result.... Yeah you just destroyed your chain with that garbage that hacked up the chrome plating and top plate
Well... that was a surprising result:)
If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is! Just another gimmick.
you need a oregon chain and bar not for the normal chain
I’d you don’t have the right chain, that’s the same as hitting a rock or cement.
You don't have the right chain for this sharpener.
Ah, what kind of chain would you use on a chain saw? There are several variations of chain but I cant see how that would effect the use of this sharpener
@@SSLFamilyDad here is the picture of the right chain for this sharpener. Ask in your local dealership about it. Greetings from Slovenia ❤️ www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fsmedia.webcollage.net%2Frwvfp%2Fwc%2Fcp%2F17264767_legacycode%2Fmodule%2Foregonchain%2F%2F_cp%2Fproducts%2F1426175020227%2Ftab-ecf43bed-ae01-4d50-bad7-76ea1c5527c7%2F6c1fa3a5-195c-4773-93cf-98221b9bc588.jpg.w960.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lowes.com%2Fpd%2FPowerSharp-18-in-Chainsaw-Sharpening-Kit%2F3429000&tbnid=KnPftI7vLUdXbM&vet=12ahUKEwil3Nugw5XnAhVX_4UKHa7lA10QMygfegQIARBE..i&docid=3-9CdXLzTPOimM&w=384&h=259&q=self%20sharpening%20chainsaw%20chain&client=ms-android-huawei&ved=2ahUKEwil3Nugw5XnAhVX_4UKHa7lA10QMygfegQIARBE
Seems like a gimmick