Yamaha FZ8 v Monster 796 v Shiver v Street Triple v Z750
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2010
- The middleweight class has expanded in all senses this year, with the appearance of three new larger-capacity bikes: The Yamaha FZ8, Ducati Monster 796 and the revised Aprilia Shiver 750. They're all hoping to beat the class-leading Triumph Street Triple and good-value Kawasaki Z750, but are they up to the task? Watch the video to find out.
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you own me 3:36 min of mi life....
this video is like taking a hot girl out for dinner, and at the end she says she just wants to be friends. yeah its that disappointing.
Where can I find the full review? I can't find it on the MCN website.
i own a Shiver and love it. I had the chance to ride a Street Triple the other day.. wow. The sound and feel blew me away. I cant justify the change this year but next year for sure.
I bought mine in November of 09 and have been very happy with it ever since. I too didn't exactly think it looked all that great but the look has grown on me. The longer I have it the better it looks to me. In my opinion this is the best middle weight bike that I have ever ridden and I have ridden a lot of them in the past 36yrs. Oh and by the way I live in America. This thing is a blast.
It's so hard to trust these reviews. The Triumph might indeed be the best, but even if it wasn't you know the English reviewers would still say it was.
lol, the Z750 comes out last because it starts to show its age. Perhaps MCN forgot the Street Triple came out in the very same year (2007) as the Z750.
That does sound like a biased test to me. gg MCN!
Showing its age is not the same thing as the actual age of the bike.
@VTolDL1000
Fact is, that the Street Triple is the best naked bike in this segment (naked 600-800cc). That might be my objectiv feeling, but everyone I know, that has driven a ST has said that.
I've driven all the bikes in this test except the Shiver and the Triumph is just better to drive than the others.. The concept of 3 zylinders is just perfect, that's why i own one now.
Funny thing: I'm not British at all:P
i love fz8
whats the top speed of the fz8 ? anyone know im concidering to buy one :) well the fz8 or the gsr 600 ..cant deside :)
How often do we have to change the timing belt on the 796? And adjust the desmodromic valves? Is maintenance really that pain in the ass?
I HAVE A FZ8 AND I LOVE IT
@dv8tion242 I got a 09 street. Nothing else in the class Ive ridden comes close to it in terms of pure fun. Its not just MCN thats talking up the street, for the past almost four years most publications have been putting the thing in the top spot. Yes, it really is that good.
@motorcyclenewsdotcom "MCN is a commercial entity" Oh come on... it wouldn't be the first time a magazine gave a bias towards advertisers who had basically told "say nice things or we are going to pull the advertisement funds"..
May be the better bike, I can't say, but I would agree the best bike overall would be the most appealing.. If a bike has (any) flaws though, it would be nice to know them before spending a wedge of cash
so where can i find the rest of this review? i went to MCN website and got an account but cant find this comparo! I know the Triumph wins but I want to know the characteristics of all the bikes in this comparo! someone let me know please!
for my situation the fz8n is $800 a year cheaper on insurance then the street triple... Can you justify the $2000+ price difference (used) and then 800 a year extra?
They look similar (street triple has the edge) but I prefer side mount exhaust position on the fz8
geez where do you live? I pay $500 insurance on a new Aprilia Tuono V4R
NEW ZEALAND TRAILRIDING
It's because I'm 19/20yrs old but to answer your question Melbourne, AU
Majestik Gamers Ahh i see,yea my car cost a ton when i was young $1500 i think never got my bike insured back then since it only cost $1000 lol
30 second ad without skip?! WTF!
@VTolDL1000 Have you ridden a Street Triple? It is a ridiculously easy bike to ride, has enough power to toss wheelies under power at 5,000 RPM, stoppies on demand, and it rails corners like the 675. It's like riding a bicycle with the power of a sportbike. Ridiculously fun little bike. The intake noise and exhaust note are much nastier than most other bikes its size too. I've got an old 955i Speed Triple and a 1098. If I had the extra cash, I'd love a Street Triple R in the garage.
so how did the fz8 did?
@VTolDL1000 Sure they are not, but those 675cc models (Daytona&Street Triple) simply are brilliant bikes winning lots of awards!
the monsters are all 2v and therefore the belt drive isn't so bad, but the rear bank is partially obscured by the frame and other parts,... as far as such operations go, it's not too bad, but simply, most other bikes these days do not have belts, but combo gear/ and or chain drive... eg, aprilia... it's BS having to worry about the belt as it is an interference engine, but the 2vs are typically not too bad in terms of reliability of the timing system... it is aircooled tho... no expenses there.
We get to know first and last place only? Cant't even find the conclution online?
now im 16 with a derbi so i cant really say much but if i could have one of those bikes it would have to be the triumph or the aprilia
@nomainreason I think it's a matter of look. Z750 is something "yet seen before", most of japan have this problem, them age fast.
After the radial brakes and the E. injection there hasn't been important innovation in the bikes world. Well, i forgot the adjustable engine mapps but they are pretty much a gadget IMO.
oohh what do we all sound jealous here against the brits...èwell to be honest , i've read many reviews about these aswell ..most of time the triple and the hornet both came out as the best out there in this segment for this price.
Although all bikes have their problems , any rider will admit this street triple is one of the best in it's class. I personally prefer the honda hornet for the finishing touch and quality instruments ..but will enjoy any ride with a triple aswell!
I got a 2009 shiver, I can take a triple easy. Yes it's true!(the Apilia ) handle's better and the clutch system is like way better. Yes, every bike has it advantage's and disadvantage.Shiver has a hard time at max speed. It has grunt speed though.
i don't think they are biased, researching these bikes and the street triple seems to be a winner with everyone....could it be it is the most fun to ride....
He said, it was about being the best buy ? Did not even give the specs, or price on a few of the bike, then at the end it's like the judging criteria was changed. Sounded more like a commercial than anything else.. For guess who ?..lol
@Vanzemaljac11 They both go faster than you ever need to go. Any naked bike isn't going to be very comfortable for very long over 70 mph anyway. Top speed just isn't an issue for that type of bike.
@VTolDL1000 LOL! I own a 07 fz6 an 09 street triple. The fz6 is just plain slow when side to side. Not to mention that even with the stock suspension set up the street destroys it in the corners.
@HibridOPT I am in accord wirh you, but Triumph have presented the new street triple 2011, it lokes mutch better!! and it manteind the same tecnical caracteristics. Now it's probably the best bike!!
@Chomiczynkaaa i love the styling on it, if i could go buy another bike right now it would probably be a speed triple triumph actually.
@VTolDL1000 Well i think MCN are abit one sided, they always seem to pick the same bikes as there favourites, and just classify others in the same way each time. For example they always talk about Ducati's and BMW but never give Kawasaki or even Honda a second thought. I dont think the British people are really like that, maybe MCN are just setting a bad example. And Top Gear can do whatever it wants because its a British motoring show, and they make jokes out of being very English! :-)
...... also the fact they won't go out of fashion and depreciate faster than you can say "(insert short word here)" appeals to me a lot. I have been looking at all of these bikes, weighing up with whom I want to spend my small dollah and i'm happy to say that my cash 'ent leaving these shores, as I want the bike with the best engine, suspension, brakes, and the striple wins hands down... If it breaks down, which I doubt these days, warranty will cover it. Pick mine up 11th june :) Yeehaa
0:54 - Most expensive of the 4? Really? Seemed like the least expensive according to U.S pricing.
LOL! People complain that the Triumph has won because it is British and claims that MCN are being biased.. can you really say that? Honestly? The striple is SUCH a good bike you can't even compare it to bikes of the same engine size! Go to the 800s and they can't even beat it ahaha. What's wrong with the Monster 696? Ah wait, no comparison.
All this video was good for was hearing which one sounds better. I don't think anyone can deny it is the Ducati. Go ahead, listen to all of the other bikes again, then watch from 2:10... No contest. I'll take my 796 in red thank you.
@motorcyclenewsdotcom Everybody has their favorites...If you added in some numbers, like Wet weight, fuel capacity, ect... (the stuff 99% of people are to lazy to look up on their own) It would improve your videos immensely...
Should have included the BMW F800R really..
im italian... i say the monster is best... lol.
@odracirseraoseia1999 I trully believe the Street is an awesome ride, becuase it's not just MCN crwoning it, many other bike magazines put the Street on top of the middleweight naked segment.
But I agree with the bias. They make it sound as if nothing can get close to the almighty Triumph.
Looking back there was no way the triumph was anywhere near the fz8 which was clearly the best in this group
my wife has an FZ8 cracking bikes. I think one of the most over looked bikes out there.
Can,t comment Honda Quack etc. But the FZ8 my son gave me a ride on his. Dry day tires warmed up. Nice seating positon plenty of torque good brakes. But give it the message on a fast very very slightly bumpy corner. It shakes its head like a Jack Russell with a rat in its mouth.
I wonder why Yamahas cost more in Europe than they do in the USA?
belt check interval: every 7.5K miles.... belt change: 15k miles or 24 mo whichever is first. Valves: check every 7.5k miles... the desmo system, esp the 2v is not voodoo or hard to work on... just different.. totally DIYable if mechanically minded and willing...
Triumph
Wow, and not even a link to the article in the description. So this is basically just a horrible advertisement for your website? I think I'll go ahead and not watch anymore MCN videos
So where's the review?
phhhhh not biassed at alllllll, nope
i have the Street Triple, and i love the Triumph, it handles great its light and maneuverable. And it just looks and sounds amazing. But i am in the market to upgrade and the Speed Triple is looking very appealing. But thats just coming from someone who has a Triumph, no issues no complaints
@VTolDL1000 What's bullshit is your assertion that they gave the Triumph the thumbs up in this test because it's British. Maybe it's better than the other three. I very much doubt you've tested these bikes, so you have no point of reference.
They sell ads to car companies so we can watch this teaser that tells us to subscribe to their magazine. This is the work of empty suits in marketing, not motorcyclists.
@xrilek Dude, try to be serious, we all know the reputation of the Triumph and ohter manufacturers, we.know what the differences between these machines are. I'm not saying Speed Triple is a bad motorcycle, but it's absolutely true, what VTolDL1000 wrote.
@VTolDL1000 Really? So the Daytona 675 was NEVER the best of the 600s? The Street Triple was NEVER the best of the nakeds? Bullshit.
haha he cant say sexy right!!!!
The easiest way to solve this "national bias" issue is for American's to do more bike reviews because at least we'd know they weren't biased because they can't be due to the fact that all their bikes are shit and wouldn't even feature, as in this video.
@Stanescul ok ..then tell me ..what's better then a land rover in it's class?! None ...
What's better then a Lotus in it's class?..none , since there aren't any other competitors ...
Aston Martin..euhm they really are the best in quality etc for what they bring and believe me or not , but they drive brilliantly and are very reliable , although i'd prefer a mercedes amg..and actually Jeremy aswell..just watch their episodes of the sl and amg's...and you'll see they all 3 have one!
@VTolDL1000
So the reviewers have had it wrong for all these years in Masterbike and Supertest, International Bike of the Year etc etc forgot to tow the line that Triumphs arenn;t the best in any category? Nice troll VT
The Yamaha FZ8 was the WINNER !!!!
Gsr 600 / Gsr 750 > All
street triple guys! its the best...engine and all!
@VTolDL1000 "Everybody knows that Triumphs are not the best motorcycles in any segment..."
That's funny. You should be a journalist because clearly you something that no one else knows.
I'm not sure what all the fuss is about here. The street triple has proved itself over and over again, because it is BETTER, Just watch all the videos from france, the states etc... of people saying it's the best bike they've ever owned (along with the speed triple)... It's not because it's british, it's just that good. However, should you happen to be british and like bikes it's a small piece of icing on the cake, because britain aren't exactly famous for manufacturing or exports anymore...
Lame review. Waste of time!
lol
Man bathing in the ditch at 2:20
Gay review don't watch!
You guys talking complete shit.
Im from Germany and Ive read dozen of tests about the Street Triple. It nearly wins every time. Its just a great bike.
And hands down. German bike/car magazines are the best in the world.
@TheAMGLover 10 times better than a LandRover...toyota Landcruiser
Better than a Lotus, hard to say... I think its best at her class (small supercars)
Better than Aston Martin... in my eyes just Lambo,Ferrari,new R8 and SLR (some of them cheaper too)..... and I've seen that episode ;)
@VTolDL1000 so you are saying you've ridden two bikes that aren't in the test and some how that means you can judge validity of the review? If you had ridden *any* of the bikes involved that might at least be a start.
You aren't just a moron you are the king of morons. I bow to you my liege.
No, I don't agree, MCN in contrast to Fast Bikes, is ok, is neutral enough. The fact that the ST is a brilliant bike has been agreed upon by everybody: CycleWorld US, Motociclismo IT, motorvision GER, Motorrad GER, La Moto ESP, Motociclismo ESP, Bike UK, MotorsTV EUR...
IF ONLY THE STREET TRIPLE WEREN`T SO AGGRESSIVELY, MERCY-LESSLY , IMPUNELY UUUUUGGGGLLLLLYYYY!!!!!!!
You're riding on the wrong side of the road!!!
These MCN british homers never like any other bike then their own triumph.
For everyone who says tha mcn is biased against triumph street triple just look for other magazines all over europe. Personally, i've searched a lot and in every single comparison street triple wins. So suck it up and stop crying around because a 675 can beat your ass!
this video was absolutely pointless as nothing was really concluded. Very childish analysis of the bikes.
stop talking, start riding!
@motorcyclenewsdotcom
You are bias towards triumph.
These moto magazine are horrid.. who actually reads this? All of these reviews are so generic and filled with the same old crap that I can't even watch this.
@xrilek Another Yank with a chip on his shoulder?
Waste of time, don't watch.
i'm tired of these flippin drive by shots. theyve got a van and camera man..get on the road and follow the riders!
All you Americans that think MCN is favouring the British manufacturer are full of bull. You're just jealous because the British build faster lawn mowers that the motorcycles built by the American motorcycle industry. Before you spout any more crap, go test ride one and then come back with a valid opinion.
If you rode one you'd get it. Until then keep your uneducated opinions to yourself. I've ridden 3 of 4 of them, and the street is the hands down best.
What a crap video. As Angryfury stated, no comparison at all and I am not clicking or going anywhere to get your order.
How does one bike shows it's age? I mean.. what can be improved on a bike over the years? Z750 is cheaper because of ..the (lackoff) research put into it's performance ?