The GODS of Mortis ALL FULLY EXPLAINED - FATHER SON ABELOTH DAUGHTER - AHSOKA EPISODE 8

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  • @StarWarsTheory
    @StarWarsTheory  Před 8 měsíci +81

    Son 0:34
    Father 13:29
    Daughter 23:14
    Abeloth 29:42

    • @6dayzofchaos584
      @6dayzofchaos584 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Have you rewatched this arc since Ahosoka? ALL of the clonewars are different now after the live action stuff. It all hits a bit different. THings matter more. etc.

    • @jyejye1077
      @jyejye1077 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@6dayzofchaos584 I sure have man and i always knew as a kid we would see the Gods again whether it was Live action or Animation, truly some of the best animation ever through the clone wars series words dont explain how excited my Inner child is to see them again but in Live action!

    • @tommyjennings500
      @tommyjennings500 Před 8 měsíci

      @ 12:50 you said Anakin and The Son confronting Palpatine would make a good “What If?”, but you’ve already done this…or something very similar. It was “What If The Son and ANakin Escape Mortis” and you did 2 different versions of it back to back, if I remember correctly

    • @MajinTheRuiner
      @MajinTheRuiner Před 8 měsíci

      I just heard that Natalie Portman would play aboloff she would use that form to torment Anakin

  • @CRlMZlN
    @CRlMZlN Před 8 měsíci +34

    Im so pumped. The mystic, spiritual side of Star Wars is one of my *favorite* aspects of it. Dave bringing the Mortis arc back full circle is a dream come true for me, and has the potential to add SO much depth.

    • @felixcote1697
      @felixcote1697 Před 8 měsíci

      No, let's add more scenes with the crab people instead

  • @luizmauriciosydriaoferreir570
    @luizmauriciosydriaoferreir570 Před 8 měsíci +58

    Anakin ALREADY is the Father. That's why he transitions between Light and Dark as he will (just like the FATHER did). Great hopes of seeing our buy HAYDEN as the Father in others seasons/shows. I LOVED how much time they are gaving to things to happen in a very Star Wardish way. If things continues this way, I might start to become more HOPEFUL as well

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 Před 8 měsíci

      He's not the Father, he's a Celestial now

    • @itsafan202
      @itsafan202 Před 8 měsíci

      He didn't have both sides balanced at the same time though?

    • @harrypacker6980
      @harrypacker6980 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@itsafan202 neither was the father really he showed more light than dark but anakin can switch

  • @omegazero9580
    @omegazero9580 Před 8 měsíci +169

    If Filoni/Favreau were in control of Sequels back in 2015, the Gods of Mortis, Yuuzhan Vong, and even the Mandalorians would have been a huge part of the stories. Plus, Luke Skywalker would have never gone into exile and we could have seen his New Jedi Order in action.
    And Mara Jade and Ben Skywalker existed in canon as well.

    • @Ahzuv
      @Ahzuv Před 8 měsíci

      Shut up we know

    • @logicalVerne
      @logicalVerne Před 8 měsíci +10

      You’re delusional if you think that’s the case, and even moreso if you think we would have somehow gotten a better outcome for Star Wars. This entire series is strewn together by member berries and cameos, with plot gaps so wide Evil Knievel would never attempt to jump them. Edwards and Gilroy were the way forward in regards to writing scripts, but they cut Edwards short before he could even deliver his product

    • @zeropyrex6260
      @zeropyrex6260 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@logicalVerne😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @zeropyrex6260
      @zeropyrex6260 Před 8 měsíci

      @@logicalVernethank for edwards for shafted he’s trash

    • @michaelbanda9993
      @michaelbanda9993 Před 8 měsíci

      @@logicalVernecap

  • @Major98
    @Major98 Před 8 měsíci +148

    At first I wasnt a fan of the Abeloth theory, I thought it was a reach. After seeing the Mortis Statues and Ahsoka's owl, I think the theories are way more plausible that she is the source of the Nightsisters weird magic. She is the one guiding the Great Mothers or at least siphoning her power to them.

    • @jamesirons963
      @jamesirons963 Před 8 měsíci +9

      Never thought of this before…
      But it makes sense,
      Only problem with it is if abeloth gave them power, why would they abandon her instead of staying by they’re goddess’ side? It’s known that the night sisters worship the son and daughter…
      However Imagine this:
      The father, daughter, and son trap the mother on perrida and assign the night sisters as guardians of the planet, taking some of them away to live on darthomir, and then Leaving perrida to go live on mortis as the ones.
      Then, abeloth reaches out and starts making sisters on perrida go crazy, the 3 crons in charge realize this and they go to approach abeloth, she promises them powers for all of their people/race if they release her…
      Than after receiving the gifts from abeloth, they followed the father’s instruction of never releasing DOOM upon themselves and the rest of the galaxy!
      All night sisters gained the power they were promised, but the crons put their entire race in stasis so they could not potentially help abeloth escape!
      Now thrawn shows up and promises them a way off perrida to darthomir where they can live without fear and in the open proudly instead of remaining in stasis and not really living…
      In essence what if the nightsisters stole abeloth’s power???
      Makes 💯% sense
      And also makes perfect sense why they’re running so fast! 😂

    • @luisgarcia-vd9ei
      @luisgarcia-vd9ei Před 8 měsíci +7

      They could use this as well to make Luke go to confront Abeloth with Ben Solo and thats how he becomes corrupted making it make sense of why did Luke was so scared of him when he looked into his mind

    • @Nikmok69
      @Nikmok69 Před 8 měsíci +9

      @@luisgarcia-vd9ei just your little paragraph is better than the whole sequel trilogy script

    • @darknoble1151
      @darknoble1151 Před 8 měsíci +1

      i think she's the original knight sister...those dark eyes

    • @ScarlettSpitfyre
      @ScarlettSpitfyre Před 8 měsíci +1

      The planet is called Dathomir, not Darthomir. You wrote 2 times the name wrong, so is not a typo, but maybe you just knew the name wrong...

  • @CameronL211
    @CameronL211 Před 8 měsíci +17

    Sam witwer as the son on the statue was amazing I absolutely can’t wait for season 2

  • @BitigoBlack
    @BitigoBlack Před 8 měsíci +60

    I never knew there was a 9 book story arc with Abeloth.
    Filoni is definitely bringing her in.

  • @T.OFearghail
    @T.OFearghail Před 8 měsíci +12

    Thanks for all the SW content over the last few years. I’m a class of 77 SW fan and can no longer stomach to watch any commentary on Disney SW. however, your vids about Lucas SW will always be appreciated. May the Force be with Star Wars. It needs it right now.

  • @FjongClips
    @FjongClips Před 8 měsíci +95

    I almost owe you, Star Wars Theory, an apology. Why are you talking about the Mortis gods all the time and not the Zeffo, I was asking myself, as we never saw a hint of them in previous episodes of Ahsoka other than the “the World between worlds like Ahsoka episode”. But you definitely redeemed yourself with episode 8. You were actually totally right. There were the three statues of the Mortis gods! …I was in awe, when I saw them.
    And now I do not think even the Abeloth is so far-fetched.

    • @crimsonstripes
      @crimsonstripes Před 8 měsíci +9

      The biggest clue we had was hearing Sam Witwer as the son in the first episode for sure, not to mention Clone Wars with Ahsoka being a Dave Filoni thing, when Fallen Order is a separate video game.

    • @Welshmanshots
      @Welshmanshots Před 8 měsíci +9

      Fallen Order is Canon and so is survivor @@crimsonstripes

    • @DManLewis1
      @DManLewis1 Před 8 měsíci +7

      NEVER DOUBT OUT BOI AGAIN!! Apology Accepted.

    • @thesheriff5091
      @thesheriff5091 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@Welshmanshotsto me they arent i like the games being seperate

    • @dankmotionsstudios5161
      @dankmotionsstudios5161 Před 8 měsíci +6

      Bruh why. Dont cherry pick
      Games can be cannon. Just like how the BF2 campaign was canon, and they had a callback to operation Cinder in The Mandalorian S2

  • @fairdose
    @fairdose Před 8 měsíci +73

    Abeloth is the closest we'll get to H.P Lovecraft level of horror in the Star Wars Universe. I hope she appears eventually in either the TV or films.

    • @hackintosh3899
      @hackintosh3899 Před 8 měsíci +7

      Laughs in Darth Nihilus.

    • @RIZEREN
      @RIZEREN Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@hackintosh3899 laughs in darth vitiate lol

    • @hackintosh3899
      @hackintosh3899 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@RIZEREN Yup him to.

  • @LordAEres
    @LordAEres Před 8 měsíci +5

    When there is The Father, The Daughter, The Son and The Mother, and Mother is living separately, then you know...
    There is The Lover as well.

    • @dolandarkxgrandayy6953
      @dolandarkxgrandayy6953 Před 8 měsíci

      That's just sexist

    • @LordAEres
      @LordAEres Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 only in minds of those who have no boundaries between fun and sense.

  • @keith_Joshua
    @keith_Joshua Před 8 měsíci +9

    The Son & Daughter only have their power because their Father, if he dies, they lose their power. At 1st the Father wanted Anakin to take his place, to be what the Force chose him to do, balance the Force, in this case become the Father & control the Dark & Light. Things played out differently, the Son killed the Daughter accidentally, he loved his sister even tho she held him back from spreading darkness. Now the Force is unbalanced, heavy in the Dark. The Father knew balance must return with the death of his Son, who is immortal. Only the death of the Father can take away his Sons power, so that's what happened, the Father stabbed himself with a dagger capable of killing any immortal, then while the Son cried in mourning, Anakin stabbed him with his lightsaber, killing him as he no longer has his God power. The Father did tell Anakin he's indeed the chosen one, and as he balanced the Force on Mortis, he will again have to balance the Force of the universe. Maybe Anakin after his death became a Mortis God & represents all 3 of the family? Or is another family to begin where Anakin is the Father, Ahsoka the Daughter, someone else like Baylon Skol the Son? Or perhaps Anakin & his twin children Luke & Leah, is yet to be seen.

  • @Morpheuskingofdreams
    @Morpheuskingofdreams Před 8 měsíci +29

    Sometimes it’s sad knowing that none of this is going to happen. And it will be lackluster like everything else Disney has created.

    • @patrickmacasaet3493
      @patrickmacasaet3493 Před 8 měsíci +7

      ^^^^^ this comment lmao, I'm so sick and tired of hopeful Star Wars fans, the actual stuff that makes this fiction and media so awesome will never be incorporated by Disney, they will micromanage and scrap everything Dave has tried to bring into Star Wars now, it's just the way they are

    • @dalic24
      @dalic24 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@patrickmacasaet3493Dave salami is the problem not the solution. Ahsoka has bin watched by shills and braindead people like star war's theory. The show has prefomed worse then andor so stop thinking he is any good.

  • @mitchellmelkin4078
    @mitchellmelkin4078 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Thank you very much, Theory, for making such a compelling set of stories so precisely and readily accessible, even for a casual fan like me!!! Great work!!!👍👍👍

  • @elisebrodeur-jacobs5215
    @elisebrodeur-jacobs5215 Před 8 měsíci +4

    You have awoken my passion for Star wars again and I just can't thank you enough!

  • @CharlieHepp
    @CharlieHepp Před 8 měsíci +3

    Thanks for all the SW content over the last few years. I’m a Class of 77 SW fan and can no longer stomach to watch any commentary on Disney SW. However, your videos about Lucas SW will always be appreciated. May the Force be with Star Wars. It needs it right now. You have awoken my passion for Star Wars again and I can't thank you enough! So the question is does Abeloth call to Baylon or is it the fountains of power and knowledge he seeks? You know, I wonder if Anakin Skywalker had reached his full potential let’s say by first, going to the wellspring of life, and then going to mortise learning everything and absorbing every knowledge of those two places I bet he could become much stronger and powerful surpassing those four gods combined becoming the Strongest, most powerful force user ever of all time in history was a wrong show about it okay All this personification of the Force is really baffling. I don't think even Lucas had thought of this, to produce pantheons for his Force, able to infect people with their Force types through bites, and all of that jazz. Can't wait to see the Star Wars franchise go the route of the MCU if they keep these fantasies up 👀 The mortis arc is about the force. Baylon's purpose to me seems to end the force... not balance it. He wants to end the inevitable cycle when light and dark exist. Abeloth from what we know would do anything to defend the son and daughter and it makes sense if she's there to defend against Baylon destroying them. A separate theory would be... Anakin is gone... is the father calling him to propose him being the one? Sometimes it’s sad knowing that none of this is going to happen. And it will be lackluster like everything else Disney has created. Maybe it's been a while since I have seen the episodes but It just came to me. If Anakin is shown the future where he turns to the Darkside, why does he decide to join the son and go to the Darkside to avoid it? That seems to make no sense The story of The Ones and Abaloth continues to confuse me. I thought that the father, son, and daughter, were created by George and Dave during the Clone Wars. But it appears that Abeloth was plaguing Luke and his new Jedi Order in Legends. So, did George already create the ones before the Clone Wars? Or did he and Dave adapt the story by removing Abeloth in the Mortis arc? Or, was Abeloth created in some legends material after the Clone Wars Mortis arc, and just before Disney bought Lucasfilm. Or, lastly, is Abeloth's connection with the ones just a fan-created theory due to their insane power status and coincidences in their stories. I have to do some research so don't hold me to my ignorance lol. I'm just hoping I can get some clarity before I go digging through legends and canon material. I like the Ashoka series, but a lot of these references in the series go past me as I haven't watched the anime, only the movies. So these videos are great! If they give us Abeloth she needs to be a lovecraft shapeshifting monster of gargantuan size. I want to see her grabbing imperial Star Destroyers out of the sky and throwing them around like toys. Thank you for informing us I never knew or heard these stories The Books with Abaloth is definitely in the top 5 books If Lucas's film is smart and Dave Filoni is allowed, they could technically make a new sequel trilogy with the use of the world between worlds. The original still exists but another timeline can be made, and perhaps balance can be found with a proper sequel trilogy. It perhaps is only a dream yet I'd like to believe with Filoni there is a chance. welp, I don't have to go back and watch the 3 others, watched the father one > and the rest are on my watch later. good to see you covering this it's so important I feel. wish we had more than 8 episodes 15 a season tho! I saw a Theory that Shin Hati is going to be the canon Mara Jade in the Heir Of The Empire movie and I love that idea. SWT: “And then the two made peace with one another.” The Son: “And so you have betrayed me, Father.” 😅😅😅😅😅I still highly believe that Anakin is a mortal god, and if not that, then he a celestial Great video as always, Theory 👏🏻👏🏻You probably already mentioned this. Maybe in this video but my brothers think between all the force users in the other galaxy and Anakin we will get a modern version of the Trinity plus one. Theory never fails to fill us up with content. In 58 Minutes like in the episode really is not done yet okay thanks for you guys telling me more about it so let me know I am not posting it so you miss something in episodes 16 and 14 episode which is about his son returning to come back he is dying his father was sad he had a heart attack in that episode 15 I saw okay about her Daughter really him as he was gone I seen it before okay thanks. The next story next episode 16 ending the full next year in 2026 in season 9 episode 1 starting with OBI-WAN KENOBI! in season 5

  • @KMMK2371
    @KMMK2371 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Amazing video!!! Thank you so much for an excellent, detailed breakdown of this wonderful story! 💜 Ever thought about being on the Calm app? We could listen to these stories all night!

  • @thalmoragent9344
    @thalmoragent9344 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Cool Video idea, Star Wars Theory! Been a fan for a while now, glad to be here. Also, if I may... I'd like to challenge your Star Wars "Theory."
    Overall, seeing them as aspects and not actual "sides" of the Force is, I believe, the proper way of looking at them.
    The Son and Daughter aren't the "Dark and Light Side" respectively, they're just representing the different aspects of the Force.
    A Wolf doesn't kill to be evil or malicious, it does it to survive. Meaning, it's not using the Dark Side, like what the Sith do. This is what the Son represents: the aggressiveness, the passion, the will, the strength that people often need to live.
    The Daughter is the complete opposite of course. She's the more selfless, nurturing, defensive parts of life. The way people must act when in regards to kids and to their communities.
    The Father never pleaded the Son to "abandon the Dark Side", cause the Son was never a Master of the Dark Side in the first place. He fell to the Dark Side when he suddenly sought power beyond his due. When he sought supremacy, and manipulation, and accidentally killed his Sister (which ended up being his version of the Sith Sacrifice to steep him into the Dark)... that all dipped him into unbalance.
    The Dark Side isn't part of the Balance, it's a corruption of the force. In the end, he was repentant, so I imagine he likely ascended in death with his family, and probably didn't end up in "Chaos", were Sith souls usually go too.

  • @Jungoguy
    @Jungoguy Před 8 měsíci +8

    I thought Sidious was bad, but Abeloth is A MONSTER

    • @thaynetarbox
      @thaynetarbox Před 8 měsíci

      til luke throws a black hole at her

    • @Grey11s
      @Grey11s Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@thaynetarbox
      Luke was WILDING in Legends oml

  • @TechtodaProductions
    @TechtodaProductions Před 8 měsíci +3

    I've seen that Abaloth pic somewhere else before yet I never knew who it was. That's awesome. Mortis and the force weilders are my favorite star wars lore save for kotor.

  • @statisticallysound
    @statisticallysound Před 8 měsíci

    Awesome video, thanks for putting them all together SWT!

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85 Před 8 měsíci +1

    This is very nice. Great compliation. Confrontation of the Son and Anakin with Sidious sounds great and would be great video😁 Watched for 23 mins. The Force will be with you too,always 😊

  • @rezskywalker2155
    @rezskywalker2155 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thank you Theory! I love your lore videos. Been a sub for awhile, but never commented before. This changes today lol. Much love.

  • @blazimus_studios
    @blazimus_studios Před 8 měsíci +4

    The daughter transferred some of her essence when she drained ahsoka of the dark side and so ahsoka is the embodiment of the light side of the force morai is the daughter's symbol it's actually seen in the mortis arc too

    • @yasininn76
      @yasininn76 Před 7 měsíci

      I don't think that's true at all. Ahsoka white sabers have a meaning, and it is of someone who just follows the will of the force, as a whole. Neither the good or bad side

  • @bobbystrong2020
    @bobbystrong2020 Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks for this. I was searching for these.

  • @DaneBryantFrazier
    @DaneBryantFrazier Před 8 měsíci +2

    So stoked to see that at the end.

  • @xinfr4z893
    @xinfr4z893 Před 8 měsíci

    Great video as always, Theory 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @AlexCitroen-zt8xv
    @AlexCitroen-zt8xv Před 8 měsíci

    I'm so glad you make this video..to explain in short

  • @pawpeechulosits
    @pawpeechulosits Před 8 měsíci +1

    Listened to the whole thing thanks!

  • @DatMentalGamer
    @DatMentalGamer Před 8 měsíci

    Ahsoka out here making me like Clone Wars more

  • @drakkoris7083
    @drakkoris7083 Před 8 měsíci +3

    If Lucas film is smart and Dave Filoni is allowed, they could technically make a new sequel trilogy with the use of the world between worlds. The original still existing but another timeline can be made, and perhaps balance can be found with a proper sequel trilogy. It perhaps is only a dream yet I'd like to believe with Filoni there is a chance.

  • @Omosisthefuture
    @Omosisthefuture Před 8 měsíci +2

    Spark notes version. The Mortis gods were the living embodiment of different aspects of the force
    Son- dark side- mostly evil- last seen stabbed and probably killed by anakin
    Daughter (morai) light side- good- She was unintentionally stabbed and killed by the son. She is now a spirit bird linked to ahsoka after she restored Ahsoka’s life.
    Father- balance- neutral I guess-last seen stabbed by himself in a sacrifice to kill the son. He is probably dead.
    These 3 are officially canon.
    Legends
    Mother-Abeloth-chaos- I’d say she was chaotic evil. She possibly died in legends. She is not confirmed to be canon at this time, but she would easily fit into the role of being the one Baylan is looking for.

  • @christopherbaker275
    @christopherbaker275 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you for informing us I never knew or heard these stories

  • @manosbaroulakis9446
    @manosbaroulakis9446 Před 8 měsíci +3

    You should call her the mother, fits with their theme

  • @Otsutsuki-san
    @Otsutsuki-san Před 8 měsíci +4

    I still highly believe that anakin is a mortis god, and if not that, then a celestial

  • @PakaShreds
    @PakaShreds Před 8 měsíci

    This is such an epic review. You sir are legendary

  • @Good_Gravy
    @Good_Gravy Před 8 měsíci

    Glad I watched this one all the way through

  • @AV8R_Surge
    @AV8R_Surge Před 8 měsíci +1

    I remember reading (audio books) Fate of the Jedi, but most of the story escaped me. This was a nice recap of Abeloth.

  • @CommanderTexas
    @CommanderTexas Před 8 měsíci +1

    Shin Hati looks nearly identical to illustrations of Abeloth.

  • @tanahansen7919
    @tanahansen7919 Před 8 měsíci

    still with you. Super helpful info, as always Theory!

  • @Cheiff117
    @Cheiff117 Před 8 měsíci

    welp, guess i dont have to go back and watch the 3 others, watched the father one > the rest are in my watch later.
    good to see you covering this its so important i feel. wish we had more than 8 episodes a season tho !

  • @hi_im_sota
    @hi_im_sota Před 8 měsíci

    These were my favorite videos when they released!

  • @dolandarkxgrandayy6953
    @dolandarkxgrandayy6953 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I saw a Theory that Shin Hati is going to be the canon Mara Jade in the Heir Of The Empire movie and I love that idea.

  • @MrTimboman14
    @MrTimboman14 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Maybe Ezra is Abeloth in disguise like the smoke monster from LOST

  • @dylanwastakenwasalsotaken
    @dylanwastakenwasalsotaken Před 8 měsíci

    that corner subscribe thing got me 🤣💀

  • @pnlester
    @pnlester Před 8 měsíci +2

    Anakin force ghost looked really sad at the end of Ashoka. Almost mournful. Does that mean something bad coming for her?

  • @sharonpollitt1524
    @sharonpollitt1524 Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks!

  • @cdchooone2554
    @cdchooone2554 Před 8 měsíci +1

    It's actually Gondor calling for aide.

  • @Dad_K
    @Dad_K Před 8 měsíci

    Could've used a bit of snipping and editing, but an awesome compilation. Thank you!

  • @dickmorningwood4689
    @dickmorningwood4689 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I believe it was originally intended by George for the Father, Son, & Daughter to NOT play a significant role going forward after the Mortis Arc. The Force was out of balance due to the actions of the Sith in the galaxy at large. This caused the Son’s increase in power making it too hard for the Father to contain the son. They were there to keep the force in balance (it’s specifically said that they are anchorites) With the daughter’s death, then the Father’s sacrifice, so Anakin could finish off the son, it TEMPORARILY brought the force back into balance. The veil of the dark side was very much still there, but it tilted the axis back into balance giving the Jedi a chance to make things right. This was until Anakin’s betrayal in Palpatine’s office which threw it out of balance once again, and would stay tilted towards the dark side, until the events of ROTJ.
    On a separate note, the Ones May be God-Like, but they are not Gods. Also people, Abeloth is strictly legends and if she was meant to be, she would be in the Mortis Arc (but she isn’t).
    Let me know your thoughts, I’m curious...

  • @OptimusMaximusNero
    @OptimusMaximusNero Před 8 měsíci +1

    37:18
    Ngl, it's quite funny to compare the appearance of Caedus and Kylo. While Jacen's is very reminiscent of Han, Leia and Anakin, Ben's makes Watto look like Anakin's father in comparison. 😂😂😂

  • @NapsterRulez
    @NapsterRulez Před 8 měsíci +3

    I like the Ashoka series, but a lot of these references in the serie goes past me as I haven't watched the anime, only the movies. So these videos are great!

    • @christinearmington
      @christinearmington Před 8 měsíci

      I had to go back and binge watch Clone Wars, Rebels, and Bad Batch. I never expected animation to be so moving. Great voice acting and gorgeous music tracks.

  • @FalconWing1813
    @FalconWing1813 Před 8 měsíci

    Man I did not know about those books , Great Story!

  • @jacksonyon5276
    @jacksonyon5276 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Wow theory knew even back then that we would see the ones someday again and now we have seen them again in the ahsoka finale

  • @Twinsuns2187
    @Twinsuns2187 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Ayyyyyy good morning errrybody!

  • @thiagooliveira5235
    @thiagooliveira5235 Před 7 měsíci

    Very interesting story, specially when Luke shows up. But if used in live action canon, it could either lead to an incredibly remarkable Star Wars or it could completely disfigure what Star Wars is to most people, specially when we talk about Abeloth's story, which is something mostly hardcore fans are familiar with, even though it is very interesting.
    I think the only way that can work is if they kept a balance between the amount of mysticism and the natural or more "grounded" work. In my understanding, Star Wars has both, but in balance.
    I think it has room to go even further into the mystic/spiritual, as Ahsoka has shown(at least it had shown me), so I think there's a way to introduce Abeloth, but since she is almost unreasonably powerful in legends and she has a lot of dedicated fans, I find that it wouldn't be respectful to those fans to just add her in there ultra nerfed just to fit the universe. I guess that's also the real reason why Dave didn't include Starkiller anywhere yet. He's insanely powerful to the point of being almost impossible to integrate in live action canon or even the animations without having to shake the entire structure of the franchise. Unless the fans are willing to negotiate 😂"Okay, nerf my guy, just not too much".
    The same with Abeloth. I think she's an incredibly interesting character and I would want to see her in canon, but I know there's no way she'll be that crazy powerful.
    I mean, Star Wars is literally a culture in itself, it's not really just "part of culture". So if you want to introduce extremely different things that would shake the franchise that people are used to the live action movies and animations, you'd have to literally change the CULTURE of Star Wars and that is extremely hard to do and you'd first have to ask yourself why. KK tried changing Star Wars culture artificially and shot her own foot.😂 It's too many years, man, you can't just do that bionically.
    Why did most people (including me), react(at first in my case)like somebody cut the power supply of your TV while you were watching the final game of your preferred sport competition in that Sabine strong in the force scene? the answer is simple: because that happened too quickly, like "from off to on". Of course Sabine trained a lot, but you know that saying, "show, don't tell". Yes, we saw Sabine training too, but her screen time where she's shown slowly getting there was non-existent; that would have made a TREMENDOUS difference in those scenes, specially the one where she throws Ezra. Actually at least ONE little scene where she at least moves something a little bit, would have made a huge difference in selling the scenes in episode 8. Nobody would be shocked. Why? Because that was going to be, even if not expected, still way more believable. The only way we make it believable is when we keep in mind the presupposition that the show makes that she's been training a lot. That's why the second time I watched episode 8, I liked that scene way more, I even felt goosebumps, and of course the music is maybe more than 60% of the scene. The Force theme is ridiculously spiritual and one of the most beautiful music maybe ever in history.
    So why am I mentioning the Sabine case? Well, if anything with Abeloth and beyond will be done, it must be done with a lot of patience and care, slowly introducing the elements. Of course still maintaining the elements of surprise, but not to the point of creating a negative shock on people that will remove them from the story.
    Of course that, at least in my opinion, SHOULD take many years to get there, to the point where Star Wars culture embraces it naturally, instead of giving the feeling of an injection of foreign body.
    But most importantly, it has to have meaning and George Lucas's vision in it, otherwise it goes to the area of regular Hollywood meaningless and forgettable space battle movies that George Lucas himself once said was a result of people looking at Star Wars success at the time and thinking just having a cool sci-fi/sci-fantasy movie was enough, when Star Wars was more than just cool entertainment.
    Anyways, let's see. Great video.

  • @claimedlizard3209
    @claimedlizard3209 Před 8 měsíci

    I like to think he doesn’t blink constantly when he does the voiceover

  • @martingomez1634
    @martingomez1634 Před 8 měsíci

    Loved this ❤

  • @bacaawesomerorie2788
    @bacaawesomerorie2788 Před 8 měsíci +340

    What if Toby maugire Spider-Man was in Ironman 2008

    • @Jay.Lombardii
      @Jay.Lombardii Před 8 měsíci +22

      Easily considered the best Ironman of the series if that happened

    • @darthnutsack6717
      @darthnutsack6717 Před 8 měsíci +25

      Tobey shouldve been the one to snap thanos

    • @xm26legend31
      @xm26legend31 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Sick

    • @luket3452
      @luket3452 Před 8 měsíci

      What if your mother swallowed?

    • @tsivils1987
      @tsivils1987 Před 8 měsíci +46

      Interesting video to leave this comment on...but ok

  • @likeluptid
    @likeluptid Před 8 měsíci +1

    The Mortis episodes are the 6 Star Wars movies being told all over again. You should recognize the events. The Daughter is the Jedi Order. The Son is the Dark side users of the Force. The Father is the Jedi Council, "the keepers of the peace," and prophets who speak the will of the Force. The "planet" itself is a picture of the Force/Galaxy. Now go back and watch the episodes and see if you don't automatically recognize the events of The Phantom Menace when Anakin first lands on the Planet. The largest part of the story arc is tied directly to the Clone Wars, when the Jedi produced a weapon, the Clones, but the Son used that very weapon against the Daughter at Order 66. The Son had already attacked the Father when Mace Wimdu took several Council members to arrest the Son. The 2 remaining Council members dissolved itself. Then, in a very swift and unexpected move, at the end of Return of the Jedi, Anakin struck down the Son and restored balance to the galaxy/Force. The episodes played what you were already familiar with. You just didn't recognize it at first.

  • @rello2x
    @rello2x Před 8 měsíci

    49 min..well I prolly watched majority of this over the years ig I’ll still refresh meh memory

  • @koutastone1994
    @koutastone1994 Před 8 měsíci

    Great CZcams Content.

  • @kybersith
    @kybersith Před 8 měsíci

    You did it!

  • @KqDaGoat
    @KqDaGoat Před 8 měsíci

    About time ❤

  • @HarbingerofHyol940
    @HarbingerofHyol940 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Pleaaaseee make a video on The Son and Anakin confronting Sidious!

  • @airyshark324
    @airyshark324 Před 8 měsíci

    I be down for videos covering all abeloth books

  • @nickryan9687
    @nickryan9687 Před 8 měsíci

    We with you

  • @kylemacinnes9867
    @kylemacinnes9867 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I really hope Dave keeps ahsoka in this galaxy and away from the Disney canon SW

  • @thatstarwarsshow
    @thatstarwarsshow Před 8 měsíci

    Still here towards the end. I have these books. Haven't read them yet

  • @jacksonsmith1823
    @jacksonsmith1823 Před 8 měsíci

    I cant believe my boy even theroriesed that he would make all of the videos into one!

  • @BaileyM666
    @BaileyM666 Před 8 měsíci

    Mr Theory sir 12:47 did you ever make the What Would Happen if Anakin and The Brother confronted Palpatine video?

  • @nrgao
    @nrgao Před 8 měsíci +1

    Why does the Father statue look like the Ice King from Adventure Time? lol not JakeLan Skoll and Finn Hati lol

  • @loganbarnette3486
    @loganbarnette3486 Před 8 měsíci

    Morning theory, it’s Logan from NC

  • @AnimeOtakuDrew
    @AnimeOtakuDrew Před 8 měsíci

    I've read Fate of the Jedi, but it has been years. I had completely forgotten about Abeloth's connection to the Father, Son, and Daughter. Might be worth pulling my old Star Wars novels out of storage and rereading them.

  • @notcam1084
    @notcam1084 Před 8 měsíci

    Hey Theory, I had an interesting thought about the ahsoka show that I thought I should ask you. Baylon’s ideals or morals seem almost like Dooku or even Qui gon’s ideals when it comes to the Jedi and training beyond the ways of the Jedi. Could there be any resemblance between them? In terms of like where they stand with the force.

  • @Beforezzz
    @Beforezzz Před 8 měsíci +1

    The Lord of the Star: The Fellowship of the Wars

  • @codyosborne5892
    @codyosborne5892 Před 8 měsíci +2

    You say they’re immortal, yet the father was weakened with age?

  • @dahle1983
    @dahle1983 Před 8 měsíci

    i need more time to watch this one :p

  • @bongzilla4172
    @bongzilla4172 Před 8 měsíci

    I never realized before the pictures you showed of the Father early in this video. Why is his eyes the same color as the night sister magic? Just found that an odd coincidence.

  • @CE77777
    @CE77777 Před 8 měsíci

    36:28 Exactly what she’s doing to Baylen now

  • @felixcote1697
    @felixcote1697 Před 8 měsíci

    Thats pretty cool and interestimg stuff, *but what about more scenes with those crab people tho?*

  • @knightofthecourtofhotdog7864
    @knightofthecourtofhotdog7864 Před 8 měsíci +10

    Could the “coffins” Thrawn was having loaded in the ship be the lost Jedi Abeloth had captured? She removed their minds but their lifeless bodies could have been stored to use as an army?

    • @VortexFromFire
      @VortexFromFire Před 8 měsíci +1

      Think it’s more likely just other night sisters that they gonna bring back to revive the night sisters as a whole.

    • @bongzilla4172
      @bongzilla4172 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@VortexFromFire Which is why the first planet the go to is Dathomir too. Don't think there's anything else it could be honestly.

    • @knightofthecourtofhotdog7864
      @knightofthecourtofhotdog7864 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@VortexFromFire i agree but what if 😂. That would be tight

    • @frederickmontpetit8860
      @frederickmontpetit8860 Před 8 měsíci +2

      The coffins kind of look like what the Mandos hold Maul captive in in the finale episodes of TCW.

  • @user-yc9vv9xb8s
    @user-yc9vv9xb8s Před 8 měsíci +2

    You know, I wonder if Anakin Skywalker had reached his full potential let’s say by first, going to the wellspring of life, and then going to mortis learning everything absorbing every knowledge of those two places I bet he could become much more stronger and powerful surpassing those four gods combined becoming the Strongest, most powerful force user ever of all time in history

  • @Chris-qr1io
    @Chris-qr1io Před 8 měsíci +6

    If they give us Abeloth she needs to be a lovecraft shapeshifting monster of gargantuan size . I want to see her grabbing imperial Star Destroyers out of the sky and throwing them around like toys .

  • @blazimus_studios
    @blazimus_studios Před 8 měsíci

    45:14 I'm still here

  • @21thahomie
    @21thahomie Před 8 měsíci

    Looks like Enoch's face in the new Loki season 2 opener. I swear it's even made out of gold. How strange

  • @SirTwomo
    @SirTwomo Před 8 měsíci +1

    You told the exact same story for Father as Son for 8 minutes from 13:29 too 21:48 lol

    • @nwing07__
      @nwing07__ Před 8 měsíci

      he's been using chatGPT... really low effort to make videos. He did this on the Thrawn Anakin relationship video too he did a few days ago.

  • @AlexCitroen-zt8xv
    @AlexCitroen-zt8xv Před 8 měsíci

    A ton of people don't know about all this back stories...in short this explain Baylan standing at the edge of Mortis God fingers..this is where all the roads leads now!✌🏻 kudos to Feloni!

  • @Jason-ty2bt
    @Jason-ty2bt Před 8 měsíci +1

    There will never be a "mother" in canon. She wasn't part of the Lucas/Filoni vision of the ones. It would make no sense to retroactively bring her in, not to mention they would have to nerf her too hard.
    All there speculators and fans of the EU are going to be so disappointed, just like Marrok. Baylan is just pointing to the entrance to Mortis.

  • @boxer9514
    @boxer9514 Před 8 měsíci

    I just watched that clone wars episode lol everything seems familiar

  • @tlessa8412
    @tlessa8412 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I think there’s a general consensus that Anakin could’ve been taken back into the Star Wars saga.
    Specially after his appearance in the world between worlds with Ahsoka.

  • @jdad9764
    @jdad9764 Před 8 měsíci

    The books with abaloth is definitely in the top 5 of the books

  • @choppaa4204
    @choppaa4204 Před 8 měsíci

    I thought you were gonna do the disney channel thing in the corner there 😂

  • @thelonegunmanRJM
    @thelonegunmanRJM Před 8 měsíci

    Boy, Ahsoka’s the luckiest bint in two galaxies…

  • @captaintalking1646
    @captaintalking1646 Před 8 měsíci

    I would also love a fan fic about what if Ezra didn‘t pull out Ashoka. Ashoka would die, Palps in the World between Worlds … :3

  • @SpaceViking2000
    @SpaceViking2000 Před 8 měsíci

    You probably already mentioned this. Maybe in this video but my brothers thinks between all the force users in the other galaxy and Anakin we will get a modern version of the trinity plus one.

  • @Cyber_Productions1998
    @Cyber_Productions1998 Před 8 měsíci

    I wonder if because the son wasn't stabbed by the dagger that he was able to live even if in spirit form. So maybe that's how he will live on, and with your theory of Baylan skoll who chases the sun or son here in this story.

  • @NigThunderXD
    @NigThunderXD Před 8 měsíci

    I wonder how the farther got the old Jedi distress signal

  • @Darbzila
    @Darbzila Před 8 měsíci +1

    So if it is Abeloth how ate they going to beat her without Legends Luke and Darth Krayt?

  • @jellylight5287
    @jellylight5287 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I think abeloth is the mother and maybe was consumed by “dark force energy” or something and became who she is.
    Now obviously they would have had to lock her away so maybe she made the witches and mortis had to flee because of that.
    Baylon is going to set her free and I think he will die in that scene Ashoka and Sabine will be training and I think somehow they will get back and abeloth might even just show up somehow or something like that.