Level 2 and 3 electrical diploma routes - What you need to know. CG2365; 8202; and EAL equivalent
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- In this video I take a quick look at the self funded route, and a few options on how to achieve employment and experience through it, other than the usual working for free scenario.
The first thing you need to know it that a lot of people approach me on how to find employment after taking this route, because they still lack experience in the eyes of an employer after all, all the experience is classroom based, not real world site work based.
Secondly, if you cannot find an apprenticeship, or able to afford the minimum £4.30ph apprenticeship wage for the first year, you could complete the 1st year at college doing this route whilst looking for a job, so that when you come to the 2nd year you can transfer those 2365 modules over to the 5357 apprenticeship, and finish your route that way.
The diploma route can cost between £6-8k and can be a block of 16 weeks, or 2 evenings a week over 2-3 years depending on the college or training provider. Again both options have pro's and con's.
If you have any experiences to add to this set of video's then please get in touch.
Take care
Adrian
Hi Adrian. Thank you for this video. Very informative :)
You are more than welcome 🙏
Please like and share to get this important information out there
I always wanted to become as a fully qualified electrician, but I don't want to work as an electrician full time (as I already have a successful business), so this video was great, basically I could do C&G L2+L3 and be unable to do my AM2 test due to never working in the trade, so I can never become a qualified electrician so I'm wasting my time. I will just stick to wiring myself then getting someone into commission it.
The more I watch these videos it becomes a bit muddied when going from the city & guilds level 2&3 on the self funded route to the NVQ. How do you go about starting the NVQ after if you have employment and are going to pay for the NVQ and am2 yourself?
Here is a copy of the logbook, but you may need to talk to someone who can help you.
If you DM me, I can recommend someone to you.
www.cityandguilds.com/-/media/productdocuments/building_services_industry/electrical_installation/2357/level_3/centre_documents/2357_-l3_diploma_logbook_v4-1-pdf.ashx
Hi Adrian I’ll be watching a few more of your videos in the next few days as I’m not sure which the best route is to retrain, I went to an open evening and the college lecturer was straight with me and told me i can do your lvl 2and3 but after that does not make you qualified spark and that the best route is via an apprenticeship, as an adult learner I couldn’t afford the drop In wage as an apprentice etc I’m in the building trade now and have works along side other trades etc but what I’m struggling to find out is as an adult learner what do I have to do to become an electrician? 4 years lvl 2 lvl 3 diploma then what’s after that as everything I go onto says I would not be able to join a cps napit nic etc I understand that the key is onsite experience, and that I need to do a portfolio , does this mean I can do stuff in my own house to use ,, consumer unit change downlights sockets lights etc or do I actually have to work for a company? I’m willing to learn and do however long it takes to become a qualified electrician weather it’s 4 years or six 😂😂
There are many ways to circumnavigate the training required to be a competent and knowledgeable electrician.
Most people can’t afford the pay cut, and some don’t even want to put in the time and effort, instead just looking for a cash4quals scenario.
If you are genuinely interested in learning and want it to work around your existing commitments, I would suggest going to evening classes and enrolling on the Cg2365 level 2 and 3.
Do not do the 8202, as this is a pre-course to the apprenticeship for 16-19 year olds.
Once you have completed the CG2365 level 2&3 you can enrol on the CG2357 and build your workplace logbook.
Once that is completed, you can go for the AM2 end point assessment, which means your career as a fully qualified electrician has started
@@Pure_electrical_training brilliant Adrian,seriously thank you for getting back to me 👍👍 just what I wanted to know 🙌🏻🙌🏻
I’ve found an employer who does commercial and industrial, and a NVQ that cost £1350 (not including AM2) is that a good price?, and how long do u think it will take me to complete?, is the-logbook mostly based on commercial/industrial?
Brighton MET offer the NVQ / Portfolio Diploma Level 3 including AM2 Test and Onsite Assessments for £2,225. The AM2 individually seems to average about £700-800 depending on your location so I would say you are in for a good deal on the surface.
P.S. Is your employer based in Sussex? Do they want to take on another adult learn re-training lol?
That seems about right, try talking to Craig Wiltshire
www.linkedin.com/in/craig-wiltshire-a98509179
The logbook can take a few days if you have all the photo’s and are able to write it up yourself.
Most people take between 12-l8 months to build up the photo’s and find the time to write it up
What is the right way to get into the industrial? I have completed my level 2 and 3 2365. What can I do next, to get start working please?
You need work experiences within the sector you wish to work.
I’m told they are crying out for electricians on the railways
@@Pure_electrical_training Thank you
@@Pure_electrical_training which place please?
@@kofiscott7575 just get a job as an electrician mate then work your way up. Or if you can't, become a labourer first to get the first onsite experience within the construction site. Then I would suggest for you to phone up electrcial companies and ask them for the work experience. You can say that I already have onsite experience and I may prove to become useful. This should build up your CV and may get your job as an electrician mate. Its all about experience at the end of the day, you need to build an image where the employer will see you as someone who is reliable and know what he is doing. Another thing about working onsite as a labourer, you will be expose to sparks. You can build connections this way.
Hi Adrian, where can I find the PDF file used in this video? Thx
The TESP website 👍
www.electricalcareers.co.uk/joining-the-industry/training-routes/
www.electricalcareers.co.uk/joining-the-industry/training-routes/
@@Pure_electrical_training thank you very much Adrian
I have finished my Level 2 and 3 Installations course, and I'm about to start as a dedicated subcontractor (albeit at a low rate) for a company next week. It will be my first 'on the tools' job. Could I start doing my NVQ (Portfolio) straight away or would I need to wait a while first? I got the funds to pay for it and I know it takes 1 year + to complete. Many thanks.
If you have been taught the units, then you can write them up in a portfolio
czcams.com/play/PLrZNMQBEaS3vsBQS9DPknBvRtzrflrOoJ.html
How did working 'on the tools' go?
Great video.. what about 18th and 2391??
What would you like to know?
Would need 18th and testing also right?
Thanks for the video! I am looking to become an electrician as a 2nd career and also keep my 1st career too. I plan to do the lv2/3 2365 at college with home study and move into the Level 3 NVQ. Am
I unrealistic/naive to think I could gain the experience for the NVQ under voluntary work 1 day a week? I appreciate this will take a lot longer to complete but I understand that. I’m looking long long term to become a self employed electrician whilst keeping my main job I currently do. Appreciate your advice on this. Thanks
I see no reason why not, just be careful not to get put on the CG8202, as it doesn’t lead to an NVQ.
I’m led to believe that the 8202 is a pre-apprenticeship course 🤷♂️
@@Pure_electrical_training thank you for the advice! I will make sure I avoid that!