I Tried Out 24 Tactical RPGs On The Steam Deck
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- Valve's Steam Deck is a prefect match for turn-based tactics and tactical RPGs because they typically don't require high frame rates and lots of horsepower. In this video Adam shows off the performance of over 20 games on the Steam Deck and provides some insights into how well they played.
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00:00 - Intro
00:54 - Testing Notes
02:15 - The Banner Saga
02:42 - BattleTech
03:15 - Dark Deity
03:39 - Disgaea PC
04:05 - Fights in Tight Spaces
04:31 - Gears Tactics
05:03 - Into the Breach
05:28 - Invisible, Inc.
05:52 - Möbius Front '83
06:15 - Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden
06:41 - Othercide
07:17 - Phoenix Point: Year One Edition
07:52 - Shadowrun Returns
08:18 - SteamWorld Heist
08:40 - Super Robot Wars 30
09:16 - Symphony of War: The Nephilim Saga
09:40 - Valkyria Chronicles 4
10:13 - Wargroove
10:41 - Warhammer 40,000: Chaos Gate - Daemonhunters
11:21 - Warhammer 40,000: Mechanicus
11:44 - Wasteland 3
12:28 - Wildermyth
12:49 - XCOM 2
13:39 - XCOM: Chimera Squad
14:13 - Outro - Věda a technologie
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Bro put his game clips in alphabetical order AND gave us chapter markers?? Give this man an award!
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Yeah not enough is said about this. Mad props to this creator 💪
This was absolutely one of the best, most concise quick breakdowns of performance and playability in a genre I’d been stoked to try on my steam deck. It’s shocking how few people are doing what you’re doing, but you did it excellently with nothing but great information. Thanks for the all-killer, no-filler content! If I could like and subscribe twice, I would! 👍
I got XCOM 2 working with the controller by setting the control scheme to “controller with mouse trackpad” before launching the game, then go into the options and it shouldn’t be greyed out anymore. Or try just setting as a controller, and if you hold the steam button the right trackpad becomes a forced mouse to navigate the UI to change it.
Thanks for including Wargroove! ⚔
Absolutely love this. Found some games I haven't heard of, remembered some I'd forgotten, and got excited to check them out on the Deck. Definite yes to more breakdowns like this, please, and subscribing because of this vid.
Great video. This genre and emulation are the two #1 things I'm looking forward to when I get my turn in the Steam Deck queue (Q3, baby!). I would love to see more of these genre overviews for Steam Deck.
I really enjoy these sorts of genre break downs and would love to see one for city builders/simulation titles.
Great video! Made a list of a few games to try once I get the deck. Been playing advance wars and fire emblem on handhelds since forever so you really spoke to me with this video
Thanks for including Chaos Gate Daemonhunters. I'm very excited to play it on my Deck but have been holding off for a performance fix. Hopefully the developers will release a patch soon!
Super helpful as this is the genre and the games I look foward to playing on the Steam Deck. Thank you!
Love this video, you covered almost every tactical RPG I could think of! Great stuff!
Wasteland 3 is supposedly Linux-native, and for some reason, there's an issue with cloud saves between linux and windows versions. You can force it to use Proton in the compatibility settings for the game, and that _should_ fix it. At least this process worked for me with another game. If the regular Proton doesn't do the trick, the Proton Experimental might.
I can confirm choosing Proton for Wasteland 3 does make the PC cloud saves appear instantly.
I've had no issue with this fix. Runs well on proton. Set to high, native res and change the screen to 40hz. Runs well and lasts longer on battery.
Linux gamer here. It's a common thing with native Linux games. Some devs make their saves incompatible with the Windows version. I don't know why since other devs make them compatible just fine. In most cases, there's a way to manipulate the files to make them work, but yeah, switching to proton is probably just an easier method for a Windows user.
Another great video from the crew at PCWorld!
you got the Disgaea video out! Thanks so much ! 👍🏻
I have been greatly enjoying these. Made me think about games that I missed when they released and gets me excited to use my steam deck
This man put Nephilim Saga on this list, he's a real fan of the genre confirmed
Could you make these games on steam deck videos (like the RPG one) into their own playlists? When trying to reference back to the RPG video to send to a friend it was a bit difficult to find. Fantastic series so far! Having these Steam deck videos as their own playlists would be much appreciated, thanks!
This is an amazing compendium. Well done dude! Someone else mentioned and I will 2nd, Battle Brothers as a wonderful and very playable tactical RPG game for the Deck
your steamdeck types of games overviews are bangers. thank you
Thank you for some game ideas. I have a few of these, but I didn't have some others and after watching this they are at least on my wishlist now.
I love this as I'm thinking of starting a game in this genre. Thank you!
Shadowrun great and honestly the absolute cream of the crop is X-Com. They are the gold standard of Turn-based Tactics games. One of my favorite games of all time is FFTactics for reference. You really can't go wrong with X-com and almost all of these games use them as a basis for their game play.
Thank you bro! You helped me decide on a couple sales.
Thank you Sir. You play a few games that wasn't in my radar and they look pretty good. I think most of those games will be good to play it at 30 to 40hz to save some battery. I salute you for your hard work and for the different approach to play those games on the Deck.👍
@@pcworld A few of them. I didn't know anything about Otherecide looks great. Also battle tech, super robot wars, warhammer chaos gate and chimera squad. You should try persona 4 Golden deluxe edition. I think next week I'll try persona 4 arena ultimax that is a fighting game and I have been playing monster hunter world.
Others have given good advice on what to try for XCOM 2. I also fought this issue for a bit, and what fixed it for me was going to the game's Developer settings and Clearing the selected controller layout. It then defaulted to the built in controller scheme.
Love this type of game since I don't recall have the quick reaction needed for the modern aaa games. And I've always been a fan (FFT was my most played psx game).
I loved this video, and added some to my wish list.
Some good games here. Since watching a bunch of tip videos on controller configuration and using the steam input making a layout that suits you is so easy. Only problem is spending the time setting this up but I usually grap a community on and then tweak those a little. Virtual radial menus and mode shifting is so good
Love this breakdown.. please do a best of the Deck
13:10 That issue is most likely because you're loading in a keyboard/mouse controller layout. When there's no gamepad inputs in the layout, the Deck doesn't create a virtual Xbox controller for games to see. So the game most likely didn't see it as an option to enable. Your best bet is most likely to try the "gamepad with mouse trackpad" template before launching the game so you can navigate the menus with the trackpad as a mouse to enable controller support. This is just a guess on my end since I don't own this game but I have been using Steam Input since the beginning so I'm very aware of many of the quirks and issues with controller gaming on PC.
@@pcworld XCOM 2 works great with the Steam controller, so I'm surprised that it wasn't working with the Steam Deck!
Thanks for the video!
Nice video. I'd say that my experience with Chaosgate with a 3080 has been great with no performance issues at all.
Great video! Inspired a couple of Switch game purchases. Cheers
Thanks for the breakdowns.
Battle Brothers needs to be on this list. It's amazing on the deck.
Fantastic video and idea, good job man. Loving it. Why am I watching it 1 day after SummerSale tho? :D
As a huge fan of XCOM I bought it for Android and it perfoms well on my smartphone. I will try it on the SD soon :)
Thanks, you tested a lot of games I already own and it's good to see that most are working well.
This was very helpful! I also have run into control issues on the steam deck and it’s very disheartening spending X amount of time downloading a game to instantly find out the controls don’t feel good or they just don’t work at all.
Thanks for this video! I found some new titles to sink time into here :)
Wow. Great video!
I love this style of genre breakdown! I'd love to see one on rpgs next as curling up in bed with a 50+ hour narrative monster sounds glorious.
I enjoy these videos. I liked this and the RPG one from a while back. Haven't yet checked to see if you've done others.
For a couple other games in the genre:
Langrisser 1&2 remake - These run perfectly. Personally I really disliked my short time with the games and will not be continuing, but if you enjoy old-school titles like this then it's a great fit.
Disgaea 2 - Now to be fair, I have not tried this on Deck. I played it on my Linux PC a while back and it worked pretty well aside from some graphical issues. If those have been resolved it should be a great experience.
Disgaea 4 - While there are some reports on ProtonDB that the game now works with Proton Experimental, that was not my experience. I did get the game to launch once, but it crashed before I was able to get into a stage.
Nice video man very interesting, i want more genere
Great review. I hope it gets more views.
What an awesome list of recommendations and just game coverages! I just added so many of these on my list to play.
This is the exact content I wanted
Great video! I'm very curious if Phantom Doctrine is playable on the steamdeck. I'm sure it runs fine but I'm not sure if it will be controller friendly...
I'm a huge fan of shadow run (especially snes) It was the first game i tried on the deck. Ill have to give war hammer a try.
For xcom2 you might be running the native Linux version, which often have control issues. Check the compatibility settings and make sure it's using Proton
Thanks Adam!
Great video! Only other one I would have liked to see was Divinty Original Sin 2.
Valkyria Chronicles 4 supports 1280x800 for everything. To make it work you need to scroll down in the graphics settings until you find the option "Keep Widescreen" then set that to "Off".
Great video Adam! I think Divinity should look nice in the Steam Deck (I don't know about the controllers though), maybe you can try that one too.
@@pcworld Thanks! I don't know how I missed that one.
I think there’s already lots of discussions on xcom2 controls on steam deck. It would have been a good idea to check those out.
Thanks for getting to the point
Great video! Do action rpgs next :)
Great video ! I would like to see more of these with other genres.
You should try Troubleshooter: Abandoned Children, please!
Please more of this!
@@pcworld Great, thank you!
I had the wasteland 3 cloud save bug. Try changing which proton version you use after booting it up on your pc and making a new cloud save.
Great video! But I'd like to add my current addiction: Fell Seal: Arbiters Mark.
Extremely similar to Final Fantasy Tactics and it runs like a dream on steam deck. Only issue I've ran into is sometimes the controller inputs don't respond, but anytime that happened, closing the game and reopening fixed it.
there's also a problem with cloud saves, developer messed up and never addressed it. Otherwise, it's a really great game
THIS!! More of this!!
Adam you take the meaning of “you play to many video games” to a whole new level!!!
Thanks for making this one. I'm a huge tactical RPG player and this answered a lot of my questions. Q4 can't come soon enough!
I'm also a fan of Chimera Squad. It was a real breath of fresh air in the XCOM series.
I'm not surprised that 4 years later, BattleTech is still stressing graphical capabilities. I haven't had a game push a setup like that one has. My old desktop setup has a liquid cooled 970 that in thousands of hours of use rarely rose above 50°C, but that game was constant between 70-90. Can't imagine what time did to standard fan cooled cards. Stoked to see it runs on the Deck. Hurry up "after q3."
nice video, what about the same themed video using the new Asus x13 flow
Very nice video, thanks for the effort! Will be checking out some of them for sure
My favorite genre, thanks! Just bought and installing Otherside now. Update: audio for Otherside is extremely low. Which version of Proton were you using?
@@pcworld I appreciate the reply!
There was a game out a while back called Underrail. Was a lot like the original fallout games. Might be worth a look. Dont know how it is now, I played it in early access.
thanks some nice games there i have but haven't played or look interesting! i'm currently playing panzer corps 2 and xcom chimera (on a normal pc but thinking of getting a steam deck for my son!)
Hi there! Thank you so much for this video, so informative! I’m currently trying Othercide, but seem to get 15 FPS out of the box (at least during the tutorial). And that’s not even on max settings. Did you have to do anything to optimize its performance or use a specific Proton? Thank you again!
@@pcworld Thank you for your answer! I’m on experimental now it seems to work well!
I was wondering if you have by chance been able to test Divinity Original Sin 2 or Baldur's Gate 3.
Hi,if possible can you also review the ys series that works on a steam deck.
I am thinking about buying a steam deck,but only when I know for sure those games will work without hiccups.
It would be greatly appreciated.
Greetz Ron
Love turn base as well❤
Symphony of War is a highly underrated game IMO! The story and missions do kind of fall off towards the end, but it's a heck of a lot of fun!
I got Gears Tactics on sale and no matter what settings i change it is blurry as crap every time i move the camera. Anyone know how to fix that?
Would be good after each of these to hear a recommended framerate cap. It won't be all that tested ith just a short playtime on eachbut would give a nice idea as to how they'd play.
I have heard that xcom 2 joystick support is selectable if you start in via steam in desktop mode. Then after selection works even in game mode.
Yes, that’s how I got it to work.
The CZcams algorithm knows me well finding this video for me lol. I subscribed.
Now you can try Tactics Ogre: Reborn. It is amazing on Steam Deck.
Can you do these types of vids with the Aya neo next?
Tip for the WarHammer issues is to bump the VRAM up from 1Gb to 2Gb. There are videos showing how to do this and it is a very simple fix! Enjoy!
Id love for someone to try and assemble a list of games that offer a novel experience for switching between playing on deck on the go then later on a high end pc. I know that’s a weird category but it’s coming from my experience with dragons dogma where it plays well on the deck but when i’m home I have mods and reshade enabled so I get a really novel experience of the game at home. It’s like I’m making meaningful progress on the deck but then on pc i get a whole new window into the game and the world.
Btw, they fixed the xcom2 controller bug and it works flawlessly. Highly recommend
Whats that framerate widget on the left corner?
Well good to know, I'll be picking up Wasteland 3, only had it through game pass up till now, but it's ideal for the steam deck.
And you're right abiut Mutant Year Zero, it seemed like a game that relied heavily on the atmosphere and aesthetic of the world, which having played it on PC was a big part of the joy I got out of it.
I agree, was super pumped to play xcom but it's just too tedious with the track pad and the little buttons.
Now this is the content that I come here for.
By the way. How do you find steam deck's speaker setup? How good is the sound? Like your average smartphone or beefier?
Extremely and suprisingly good - like a very good speaker
Dang that XCOM2 is a huge bummer. Wondering how things like Civilizations or other TBS fare on the Deck?
It definitely takes a few days to get used to it. If your hands don't prefectly fit all the buttons you'll have a rough time. For fast pace games like ultra kill I only need up using the bottom right top left back buttons and like to avoid r1 r2 as they aren't as easy to press
Thanks!
I just found this video... I know it's a bit old at this point, but what about a few other TRPGs? Pathway? Banner Saga 2 and 3? King Arthur? Triangle Strategy?
If you haven't already tried it, Massive Chalice is worth a playthrough... It's not the best game ever and will get repetative, but it's got its charm and would likely run very well on the Deck (what with being very old and graphically very simple.)
Just checked SteamDB for the price and saw it's usually £15, which is waaay too much to pay for it, but it's currently on sale at under £4, I can recommend giving it a shot at that price.
I just played through all of South park stick of truth, played flawlessly!
Just for kicks I'd love to see a Full Nerd Starcraft 2 tournament on Steam Decks :p
I'd like to add Fell Seal: Arbiter's Mark to the list. It's practically a carbon copy of FF Tactics with different artwork. You can tell the devs are huge fans of the series and anyone who has played it before will feel right at home.
This is quality content
This man chose some GREAT games
Xcom 2 works fine on the Steam Deck - I'm not sure when you did the video but I'm playing Xcom 2 now with zero issues with the controls but there are many alternatives you can download. The only downside is Xcom 2 drains battery life fast... You also missed out Xcom Enemy Unknown - an older game so runs really well and battery life its goes on forever I'd recommend adding this to your list
60 fps?
Steam deck really shines with turn based rpgs. That's how I use mine. AAA I play on PC.
Here are my recommendations:
Octopath Traveler 2
Live a Live
Sea of Stars
Persona 5 Royal and Tactica
Triangle Strategy
Chained Echoes
Wandering Sword
East Ward
Star Ocean Second Story R
To play XCOM 2 on the Steam Deck with full controller support, you have to change the layout in the settings. Change the layout to generic gamepad with touchpad as mouse. From here launch the game. You will be able to control the mouse cursor with the touchpad on the right, but the click won't work. You'll have to use the touch screen for clicks.
So use the right touchpad to put the cursor over what you want to click, then tap on the screen to click. Go to the settings in XCOM 2 and now you will be able to switch the control scheme from mouse to controller. Once you've done that, you're all set. Works with the Steam Deck controls with full button prompts and everything. Just make sure to use this specific layout and follow these instructions and you're good to go.