The Evolution of the Mirage Window Smoke

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  • čas přidán 19. 03. 2023
  • The Mirage window smoke has been crucial since the launch of CS:GO, with players constantly seeking to improve it.
    I go through the Evolution of the Mirage Window Smoke, an 8 year process that pushed the limits of what the scene knew about creating nade lineups.
    / mahone_tv
    "Top teams" refer to the top 15/20 teams that played Mirage at the time specified.
    Credits:
    HLTV.org
    Stream/broadcast credit to:
    ESL
    ESEA
    FACEIT
    DreamHack
    SLTV
    ESWC
    99dmg
    twitch.tv/device
    Epic Sports Events
    TaKeTV
    LOOTBET
    CZcams video credit to:
    TrilluXe - Fast Mirage Window Smoke (2014): • CS:GO - Fast Mirage Wi...
    adreN - Jump throw bind - allow or ban: • CS:GO Pro adreN Discus...
    Flapadiddle - Jump Throws Are Now 100% Skill Based: • Jump Throws Are Now 10...
    MrMaxim - How to Wallstrafe by CS:GO Veteran: • How to Wallstrafe by C...
    ReDMooNTV - VNL KZ - In-depth: The wall strafe: • VNL KZ - In-depth: The...
    chickengunya - How To Throw Accurate Jump Smokes (2014): • CS:GO - How To Throw A...
    HattonGames - Fastest and Easiest Mirage Window Smoke. 128 tick. [2017]: • Fastest Mirage Window ...
    Jumpthrow script ban:
    Fifflaren thoughts on jumpthrow script: www.twitch.tv/videos/7907883?...
    ESL bans jumpthrow scripts in 2016: play.eslgaming.com/counterstr...
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    / 668511103140368384
    / 668513708482674688
    Reddit threads:
    Huge smokes/flashes/mollys compendium (June 11 2014): / huge_smokesflashesmoll...
    Legal jumpthrow workaround: / legal_jumpthrow_smoke_...
    perfect de_mirage window smoke / no gap / short distance to mid (Oct 23 2015): / perfect_de_mirage_wind...
    The Easiest Mirage Window Smoke - (64 & 128 tick) (Feb 28 2020): / the_easiest_mirage_win...
    Patch notes before December 2013 updates: store.steampowered.com/oldnew...
    Ancient patch notes: blog.counter-strike.net/index...
    k1to Instant Window Smokes (2020): • Instant Window Smokes ...
    Soundtrack:
    Perfect Dark - Chicago Stealth
    Perfect Dark - Carrington Institute
    Perfect Dark - Air Base: Espionage
    Perfect Dark - dataDyne Research: Investigation
    Perfect Dark - Attack Ship: Covert Assault
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  • @mahone_tv
    @mahone_tv  Před rokem +2153

    This is my first long-form video that digs into more of the history of how CS tactics evolve over time. What did you think of this video and would you like to see more? Let me know what you’d be interested in!
    Edit: There is a bot going around in the comments pretending to be me. I will only ever communicate using this account, so please do not message or interact with them!

    • @El1as--
      @El1as-- Před rokem +3

      Im interested in ancient individual and anubis :D Love your content bro

    • @nihalguron97
      @nihalguron97 Před rokem +16

      This kind of content is great. I’d love to see the change in utility and play styles on different maps over the years.

    • @sherwinkp
      @sherwinkp Před rokem +1

      This could be extrapolated to ideas how has mid control on mirage evolved over the years, or how have rotations changed on nuke over the years.

    • @maw9153
      @maw9153 Před rokem +1

      cs esports history/stories, anything you can find

    • @CoRe01337
      @CoRe01337 Před rokem +3

      This is amazing and I want other videos like this! What about the evolution of A site dust2 tactics, showing things like the avangar smokes.

  • @launders
    @launders Před rokem +10964

    this man really watched every mirage demo in history. most sane faceit user

    • @rushiaboingboing7175
      @rushiaboingboing7175 Před rokem +35

      oh wow you're here! Hi lau!! : )

    • @b.piening2887
      @b.piening2887 Před rokem +16

      Hi lau. Ofc. you watched this masterpiece of a Video.

    • @ffll8427
      @ffll8427 Před rokem +82

      valorant players in shambles

    • @generodidtheedit
      @generodidtheedit Před rokem +21

      12:20 wasn't that flap that did that video? lmao, i fucking remember that post.

    • @launders
      @launders Před rokem +21

      @@generodidtheedit yeaa lmao i was waiting for the glue straw

  • @ZachsWonderland
    @ZachsWonderland Před rokem +2824

    I'd like to give this guy props, I have never played cs go, never watched a tournament, and yet I watched an entire video on it because of how it was presented, made it genuinely interesting

    • @SenrabMJam
      @SenrabMJam Před rokem +22

      This.

    • @joesauter3918
      @joesauter3918 Před rokem +14

      same this video rocks

    • @desma26
      @desma26 Před rokem +12

      same.

    • @K17ten
      @K17ten Před rokem

      You might also enjoy Wirtual's documentaries on Trackmania. They too are well made. I'd recommend to check out "Impossible Trackmania Shortcut Finally Done After 13 Years"

    • @ya1dnif
      @ya1dnif Před rokem +8

      Same here

  • @CrayCow
    @CrayCow Před rokem +771

    You know this game has such an abundance of history when someone can make a 20 minute video on 1 utility being used in 1 area of this 1 map

  • @Frogesh
    @Frogesh Před rokem +1879

    I really can't I watched a 20 minute video on throwing mirage window smoke. The History of this game is so rich and you are such a good story writer to explain it so nicely. thank you so much for this video

  • @sherwinkp
    @sherwinkp Před rokem +726

    I never thought something like this could be made. It just enhances my appreciation for the game and the community around it. The amount of effort you put into this is almost unimaginable. Thank you for doing what you're doing Mahone.

  • @FNScence
    @FNScence Před rokem +371

    Snax must have thrown it by pressing W+A while crouched to make use of wallstrafing, as well as standing up just before (or by simultaniously) jump-throwing for extra speed. He always had super innovative line-ups like the one for heaven on Nuke where he lined himself up while running out of T spawn.
    Awesome compilation and great research as usual. Thanks!

    • @1azey
      @1azey Před rokem +3

      nice

    • @Stoffercss
      @Stoffercss Před rokem +4

      Maybe youre right, but you dont wall strafe when pressing w so he would have to press W let go and then press A

    • @Independent1206
      @Independent1206 Před rokem +11

      @@Stoffercss Since he's angled to the left you'd be able to use w+a to press against the left side wall and get the proper forward movement I think. Coming from a surfing perspective, you'd be able to wall-strafe against the surf block by pressing w+a or w+d, the thing that changes with that is just where you are looking towards.

    • @z34n
      @z34n Před rokem +1

      @@Stoffercss potentially the wall strafe and then presses w after jumping like fl0m’s smoke

    • @guiltyspark4234
      @guiltyspark4234 Před rokem +2

      After some testing, I found a standing W+A works, no need for crouch. It's kinda inconsistent but cool nonetheless.

  • @calccalccalc
    @calccalccalc Před rokem +35

    19:26 "So who knows what's in store for the future"
    Volumetric smokes bruh

  • @TitorEPK
    @TitorEPK Před rokem +15

    Source 2: "Allow me to introduce myself"

  • @Lekeing
    @Lekeing Před rokem +209

    Blast should show this during their breaks instead of dead air. THIS is good content.

    • @mr.someone5679
      @mr.someone5679 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Then they would have to pay whoever was the owner of the video. If not that would be content theft.

    • @Lekeing
      @Lekeing Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​@mr.someone5679 Originally I said ESL, but I meant Blast. The guy who made this video works for blast, which is why I thought they should show this instead of dead air.

    • @Charp87
      @Charp87 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@Lekeing They would still have to pay him, no? I don't imagine Blast owns contents made by Mahone for his own channel.

  • @apeologists
    @apeologists Před rokem +179

    Mahone was so dedicated he built a time machine just for this one video. I appreciate all the effort you put in and hope to see more

  • @launders
    @launders Před rokem +14

    wallstrafing mentioned this video has everything

  • @RedBlueGreen102
    @RedBlueGreen102 Před rokem +11

    funny how this video was made instantly outdated. rip old smokes

  • @matteagle6914
    @matteagle6914 Před rokem +7

    never was a video outdated so fast. welcome cs2!

  • @dr1zz3n
    @dr1zz3n Před rokem +50

    I find it amazing that you managed to pick such a small thing about CS and managed to make it into such an interesting video

  • @launders
    @launders Před rokem +5

    the streets have been waiting

  • @gamerpro937
    @gamerpro937 Před rokem +15

    Gonna have to remake this video soon

  • @tjamesnorton
    @tjamesnorton Před rokem +74

    This must have been a tonne of work to research and record. Awesome job dude - this will go down as one of the most important historical CS videos ever! Now go take a day off :)

  • @petr1k
    @petr1k Před rokem +2

    This is the best CS:GO video ever

  • @samuels1123
    @samuels1123 Před rokem +6

    I love watching the evolution of some strategy on placing blindness in a specific area of a source map in a game I don't play.

  • @same418
    @same418 Před rokem +18

    I never played CS:GO but this documentary was on point, watched it all! Amazing to see the evolution of the technique and props to you for all the research you did on this topic!!

    • @deepfriedantifreeze6439
      @deepfriedantifreeze6439 Před rokem +4

      dawg why are you here ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

    • @same418
      @same418 Před rokem +6

      @@deepfriedantifreeze6439 random recommended video? lol

    • @deepfriedantifreeze6439
      @deepfriedantifreeze6439 Před rokem +1

      @@same418 ‘lol’ common symptom of severe brain damage just because its in your recommended doesnt mean you have to watch it goofy annoying ass non csgo player bro watching a documentary on shi he don even play

  • @KayZ_19
    @KayZ_19 Před rokem +5

    Based Perfect Dark OST user. Amazing video.

  • @5h4rpy
    @5h4rpy Před rokem +11

    Its great to see mahone getting the love and respect he's much deserved for his work explaining and demonstrating use of tactics and utility in such a majestic game

  • @PRIM305
    @PRIM305 Před rokem +3

    now it has evolved yet again

  • @YouM3tv
    @YouM3tv Před rokem +12

    this has to be my favourite piece you've done, fantastic work!

  • @mariuspuiu9555
    @mariuspuiu9555 Před rokem +10

    Valve saw you doing this video and decided to make it feel old in just a few hours :)

  • @604Nice
    @604Nice Před rokem +21

    Mr Danny, what an insane video to put out. The editing on this is wild, we need more videos like this :)

  • @saliva134
    @saliva134 Před rokem +5

    I love how much work was needed to do this. Absolute quality and originality and I learnt so much.

  • @flpymnky
    @flpymnky Před rokem +5

    This was absolutely fascinating to watch the evolution of strat optimization and the fact that objectively more efficient plays still took time to be adopted in the highest level of play
    Fantastic work, I'm subscribing and would love more stuff like this

  • @johnstevenson3628
    @johnstevenson3628 Před rokem +4

    I never thought I’d be so invested in learning about grenade smoke optimizations in a game I don’t ever play or know much about. This is a a testament to your great video quality, storytelling, and engaging writing which made this a pleasure to watch. Cool video, keep up the good work.

  • @MrKrill7
    @MrKrill7 Před rokem +2

    Never thought I would ever watch a video this long about a specific smoke grenade spot in a game I don't play. Truly fascinating, the attention to detail and the great editing definitely promote thw idea of me watching this again, great video.

  • @insomniagaming4149
    @insomniagaming4149 Před rokem +2

    Dude the timing of this video was insane.

  • @moosome
    @moosome Před rokem +6

    This is amazing. CS needs more of these types of retrospectives.

  • @sexntuna
    @sexntuna Před rokem +7

    The work put into this video is INSANE. Hats off sir

  • @snooples
    @snooples Před rokem +1

    i was wonderin what u were cookin up and i was not expecting it but man it did not disappoint, i love how you can see the logic behind each evolution and its really cool to see which players and teams lead innovation and which teams were quickest at stealing new discoveries, i still remember when the instant window smokes came out and how excited you were about the timing windows that opened up so it makes perfect sense for u to make this video
    there are so many possibilities for a series like this, i think an obvious follow up could be nuke outside smokes because of how much variation there has been there and theres been so much evolution in how teams lurk around the smokes or play thru them

  • @stickerfighter12
    @stickerfighter12 Před rokem +1

    Gotta be a top CSGO vid of all time. Crazy to think how its evolved to the point that now we have NADR.

  • @slackjaw488
    @slackjaw488 Před rokem +11

    It's amazing how such a seemingly very small detail as one smoke can have such a huge history behind it.

  • @Dummythxc
    @Dummythxc Před rokem +13

    Linking ancient spawn throws to mirage window honestly blew my mind man. Truly a work of art crammed into a 20 min video. Unbelievably well done. Sharing this where I can

  • @MarkStillPlays
    @MarkStillPlays Před rokem +1

    never knew that i was going to be watching a documentary video about mirage window smokes, but here i am and so are you

  • @mariocastiel2543
    @mariocastiel2543 Před rokem +3

    Very good video. I have never played CS:GO nor do I watch esports, but this video was so well made that it kept me engaged all throughout. Well done.

  • @williamankjr9647
    @williamankjr9647 Před rokem +4

    Well its going to be very differentiere now

  • @mrmarvelous2109
    @mrmarvelous2109 Před rokem +2

    The fact that smoke will be volumetric in CS 2 and can be countered by a frag, this whole ordeal will feel redundant

  • @duxbox
    @duxbox Před rokem +2

    Absolutely exceptional breakdown, need more content like this

  • @Prankless
    @Prankless Před rokem +7

    never touched cs:go in my life, but this video had me hooked from beginning to end! you did a fantastic job with this, i'd love to see more!

  • @bornabudic1399
    @bornabudic1399 Před rokem +6

    Damn and just now you need to remake the video cuz of Source 2 😂😂

  • @sunshine8338
    @sunshine8338 Před rokem +1

    Tha ls for uploading again mahone! Really loved your pro demos and hope to see more in the future.

  • @danxu7642
    @danxu7642 Před rokem +3

    I know there have been many iterations of the windows smokes but I wasn't expecting a near 20mins, detailed, well-planned video!! great work!

  • @Xeem_Pad
    @Xeem_Pad Před rokem +3

    Ironically, with new tickrate system there might be different 2023 technique

    • @maksitaxi
      @maksitaxi Před rokem

      new smoke system is much more important lol, i cant wait to see how it fills corridors

    • @Xeem_Pad
      @Xeem_Pad Před rokem

      @@maksitaxi true

  • @joenaive8191
    @joenaive8191 Před rokem

    Amazing work dude! Was absolute pleasure to watch all details on Smoke history. Lets get Ready for CS2 smoke action!

  • @Josipinho
    @Josipinho Před rokem

    Man what a detailed and good video, you actually put in the videos of each team first throwing it dude, props for the effort, amazing video

  • @Wilzzub0b
    @Wilzzub0b Před rokem +3

    As someone who likes to spend hours upon hours finding new smokes alone on an offline server, this video made me very happy :)

  • @Hlidskialf
    @Hlidskialf Před rokem +5

    Old video, cs2 smoke when?

  • @woodybob01
    @woodybob01 Před rokem +2

    This was really cool to see actually. There's a lot involved in this history that I was surprised I didn't know. The fact that it got so extreme that CTs had to throw a molly through the vent early to stop the smoke is so awesome!

  • @DannyAbcro
    @DannyAbcro Před rokem +1

    this was a fantastic video, I'm impressed by the huge amount of work you put into this! I'd love to see more videos like these

  • @legopigguy
    @legopigguy Před rokem +4

    I knew I was a Counter Strike nerd for awhile. I have been playing for years and watching the pros for just as long. But man I just spent 19 minutes watching a video about ONE smoke for ONE map for csgo and was intrigued the entire time and loved every minute. Keep making this great content!

  • @777redhood
    @777redhood Před 8 měsíci +3

    Its 2023.. cs2 is out...i still miss my window smoke

  • @bassemb
    @bassemb Před rokem

    The technique's evolution - and this very video - are so beautifully nerdy! Thanks for making this!

  • @Lallegang
    @Lallegang Před rokem +1

    Insane video. U must have watched so many demos, i cant believe it. Well done, enjoyed every second of it.

  • @console6010
    @console6010 Před rokem +18

    can you go over the history of the A ramp meta in vertigo? i think the evolution was pretty interesting

    • @jonas440
      @jonas440 Před rokem +1

      By week 5 astralis had some insane utill

    • @ivankrivo5397
      @ivankrivo5397 Před rokem

      ​@@jonas440 by 5 minutess after map launched*

  • @rythmUK
    @rythmUK Před rokem +6

    i always felt like lining smokes up with the geometry was such a weird (unintended?) mechanic, but its depth knows no bounds and this video shows off how valve letting players creativity run wild has resulted in an incredibly high skill ceiling.

  • @Floffmann1992
    @Floffmann1992 Před rokem

    I watched your channel since 200 followers. Im so proud of you how you envolved and still keep to your core content🎉

  • @nabilomar4631
    @nabilomar4631 Před rokem +2

    Great to see you at the major, probably the best man in the world for the job. Happy to see you come so far. Good luck in the future,

  • @BarrettKillz
    @BarrettKillz Před rokem +3

    Aged like milk

  • @flintstone1409
    @flintstone1409 Před rokem +6

    Sometimes I'm asking myself whether or not the Game Devs implement this on purpose and are well aware of these possibilities way before teams find this out and use it (like the exact textures etc. required for the perfect throws) or if this is just something that is randomly there.

    • @I-C-N-H
      @I-C-N-H Před rokem

      they could simply keep in mind the possibilities and make sure the buildings or whatever they can use are detailed enough so they can be used for lineups by the community

  • @elbaguetti5356
    @elbaguetti5356 Před rokem +1

    This is really amazing content, I would love to see more meta evolution analysis videos like this!

  • @Ianneitor
    @Ianneitor Před rokem

    I love this type of videos that analyze upgrades among the time and quite so precise! Love it and keep it doing

  • @statik884
    @statik884 Před rokem +6

    this video now needs an update 💀

  • @siddharthrathod6249
    @siddharthrathod6249 Před rokem +3

    I've watched csgo for over 7 years and this is the best csgo video I've ever watched.

  • @amarnathsama
    @amarnathsama Před rokem +2

    This video is a masterpiece, thank you for putting in so much effort on such a niche subject, loved watching it

  • @MrJiaHung
    @MrJiaHung Před rokem

    More these kind of evolution series please, its fascinating to watch
    specific smoke lineups, maps, tactics, exploits, etc.

  • @Keekoook
    @Keekoook Před rokem +4

    Well, now this video is instantly out of date.

  • @ELGUAPOIV
    @ELGUAPOIV Před rokem +4

    Valorant smokes: pull out iPad

  • @markjodonohue
    @markjodonohue Před rokem

    Dude this was such a great video!
    I'm not even a huge player of CS:GO, plenty of hours, plenty of time trying some smokes, but that's across a decade on and off. I found it fascinating and really enjoyed the style and effort you clearly put in. Cheers.

  • @soft1q688
    @soft1q688 Před 3 měsíci +1

    As for someone, who dropped playing cs for qutie a long time, this content is wholesome. Thank you

  • @wrx95pro
    @wrx95pro Před rokem +4

    this not aged well

  • @Mateus_Coutoo
    @Mateus_Coutoo Před rokem +3

    great timing for this video. Now CS2 just made it useless

  • @uunlimitedvoid
    @uunlimitedvoid Před rokem +2

    One of the most interesting and well-built csgo history videos. Great job

  • @Bbracketdotdotdotendbracket

    THAT AGED LIKE A MILK

  • @miljonx7839
    @miljonx7839 Před rokem +10

    already outdated cs2!!!!

  • @yevgeniylankin7032
    @yevgeniylankin7032 Před rokem +3

    Cs2

  • @geoffreychan8967
    @geoffreychan8967 Před rokem

    Incredibly deep, intricate and fascinating history of some CS Meta, great content!

  • @KnightFox1000
    @KnightFox1000 Před rokem +1

    This video is a documentary. Insanely good and very nostalgic.. Congrats.

  • @agentiswierd5705
    @agentiswierd5705 Před rokem +5

    This aged poorly…

  • @SupaPLAi
    @SupaPLAi Před rokem +3

    outdated video

  • @Agreveby
    @Agreveby Před rokem

    This was one of the most well made and entertaining videosm I've watched in a long time. 10/10!

  • @novahdesign
    @novahdesign Před rokem

    This is such a fascinating video and a great concept for future ideas! Awesome work brother, hope to see some similar videos in the future.

  • @nnandrei
    @nnandrei Před 9 měsíci +1

    Heard about this video on Talking Counter, so props to the boys! When ropz mentioned in the last episode that this is a nice "documentary", i was like huh? a documentary about a window smoke?
    Yeah, it really was such a trip. Wish I had as much free time as you do, Mahone! Btw, your bits during pro tournaments when you analyze certain plays are sooo good. You are doing top tier content, can't imagine how much work and time you have to dedicate for a video like this. Well done!

  • @ncbob91
    @ncbob91 Před rokem

    Waiting on a full smoke video for each map and for each side that has use for them. Sweet video man.

  • @logankinsella9529
    @logankinsella9529 Před rokem +1

    I missed your content so much, glad you uploaded!

  • @Hex...
    @Hex... Před rokem +2

    This is a superb video that must’ve taken quite a while to put together. I’d love to see more if you get round to it!

  • @zain6879
    @zain6879 Před rokem

    lovely video mahone! Would love to see more content like this. Even if it takes months to make definitely worth the wait.

  • @vasara2293
    @vasara2293 Před rokem +1

    I'm happy for you this to pop off. Keep going

  • @zioplys
    @zioplys Před rokem

    This is beautiful man, very well done!

  • @FosFate
    @FosFate Před rokem +1

    First video I watched from you, and this is easily one of my favorite CSGO videos ever
    Amazing job

  • @medicmii
    @medicmii Před rokem

    This video is so well done! Great Job keep them coming!

  • @seamusmcsorley7638
    @seamusmcsorley7638 Před 11 měsíci

    Constantly checking your channel for a new upload. I understand content like this takes a while but boy is it worth the wait

  • @Dyleniz
    @Dyleniz Před rokem

    This makes me appriciate all the line up guides I used to watch in 2015

  • @RC_723
    @RC_723 Před rokem

    Hooray Mahone back with the CZcams vids! Really enjoyed your segments during the events I wished we got more Mahone and here we are!!

  • @K0kEEE
    @K0kEEE Před rokem

    This is insanely good, keep up the good work!

  • @mab_8731
    @mab_8731 Před rokem

    Please do more of these, I am a huge fan of those type of videos, especially for a topic this cool and interesting