Will Elinalise's CURSE ever be cured? Mushoku Tensei SPOILERS

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  • čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
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    Elinalise Dragonroad is a key character in Mushoku Tensei season 2 part 2, with her relationship to Cliff and her curse being an interesting aspect of the story for many fans. But will Cliff ever manage to cure Elinalise? Will Elinalise ever have her curse removed? Does Rudeus ever have to sleep with Elinalise? In this video I explain what happens with Elinalise through the Mushoku Tensei story, so there are spoilers, but there is also lore from Old Dragon's Tale, and Mushoku Tensei sequel theories in this video, so you have been warned!
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Komentáře • 82

  • @jimothyworldbuilding3664
    @jimothyworldbuilding3664 Před měsícem +15

    What if the way Orsted has to obtain the mana is eating the crystals.

    • @jimothyworldbuilding3664
      @jimothyworldbuilding3664 Před měsícem +3

      @Greyar7
      "Why's this mana potion white?"
      "Just shut up and drink it or we're all gonna die... also don't eat your girl out for at least a few days after. Or she might birth a kid that looks nothing like you."

  • @NaLu_85
    @NaLu_85 Před měsícem +28

    Natalie's Mushoku Tensei videos are the best at explaining the series

  • @MrLurch133
    @MrLurch133 Před měsícem +5

    I recommend going to that dragons tale Playlist. Good listen while busy.

  • @MissionSilo
    @MissionSilo Před měsícem +2

    Hope you are well

  • @ausername8699
    @ausername8699 Před měsícem +56

    Sorry about your financial issues, hope you get out of this...

  • @chadp6307
    @chadp6307 Před měsícem +5

    Always enjoyable to listen to another Natalie video.

  • @olincekongo
    @olincekongo Před měsícem +5

    *I hope you doing well during those hard times we really miss you!*
    [Dead serious]
    1:11 Heavy fate to bear for Elinalise. 10:00 uff --> 10:40
    [Cliff real G]

  • @jasonking271
    @jasonking271 Před měsícem +4

    Keep it up, your one of my diamonds in my CZcams subscription list,😭😭 keep going my diamond!!!!!

  • @SargentGunnery
    @SargentGunnery Před měsícem +1

    Thank you for the video, Natalie!

  • @josephmcneil7427
    @josephmcneil7427 Před měsícem +1

    Great video! Always love to see new vids pop up!

  • @elricvos
    @elricvos Před měsícem +18

    Perfect timing! I wanted another Natalie video. 😂

    • @GearlessMo
      @GearlessMo Před měsícem +3

      same here... well over due.

  • @PNut8421
    @PNut8421 Před měsícem +5

    NEW NATALIE VIDEO!!

  • @flaviusiacob1558
    @flaviusiacob1558 Před měsícem

    Thanks for the video, Nat!

  • @jonathanturull8508
    @jonathanturull8508 Před měsícem

    Thank you for another video, Natalie. I'm glad to see you're holding on. Do not give up. I've been praying for you. I really hope someone wealthy comes by and helps you financially. 😅 sadly, I can't, but I'll cheer you on and encourage you as much as I can. You're an awesome lady, and i know you'll get out of this situation.

  • @jamesadvincola9687
    @jamesadvincola9687 Před měsícem +4

    My favorite voice ❤

  • @BQD_Central
    @BQD_Central Před měsícem

    Hey Natalie, great to hear from you. I've continued with the novels and just finished Vol. 14. I seriously didn't expect Turningpoint 4 that early.
    MT is really developing into one of my favourite Fantasy novels.
    So I'm looking forward to see more videos from you. Especially the review for the complete season.
    As I like your style of content, I'll continue to support you with a few bucks, well worth it.

  • @johnmartinez-valentin5427
    @johnmartinez-valentin5427 Před měsícem +2

    I enjoy every video that you create keep it up 💯

  • @petermuller9480
    @petermuller9480 Před měsícem +2

    Love your videos!

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  Před měsícem +1

      Thank you!

    • @liamscott1905
      @liamscott1905 Před měsícem

      @NatalieXHunter
      Have you seen “teeaboos” reaction to Mushoku and re zero?
      He accuses rudy of racism and homophobia then he completely misunderstands Wilhelms relationship with his wife?
      Then he doubles down when corrected.

  • @williamjanak2013
    @williamjanak2013 Před měsícem +1

    Here is me cheering you on and wishing you good luck! With helping appease the youtube god.

  • @KozyCorner1
    @KozyCorner1 Před měsícem +1

    I’m so sorry Ms Natalie, please hold on. You shouldn’t have to do anything you’re uncomfortable with. I wish you the best.

  • @rizzlekicksriz3044
    @rizzlekicksriz3044 Před měsícem +1

    It's great to see more content from you lately! This may be a bit tangential but, considering that you also cover Re:Zero content, I really want to hear your thoughts on Emilia's 'buff' from the upcoming Season 3 of the anime and the controversy surrounding that. I think that your insight into this would be really good! Thanks!

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  Před měsícem

      I don't really have an opinion on it, I mean, Tappei did a list of characters in order of bra size and Emilia was on the bigger end, so the S3 design may be more accurate!

    • @hunteriggy2762
      @hunteriggy2762 Před měsícem

      ​@NatalieXHunter Sophie is elinalise granddaughter am I wrong or right on it

  • @TheSlideSho
    @TheSlideSho Před měsícem +3

    NYA! NYA! NYAAAAAA!!! 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

  • @Meow_YT
    @Meow_YT Před měsícem +1

    There's a lot being left unfinished that makes it sound like there's a lot more to tell in sequels not yet written.

  • @-Good4Y0u
    @-Good4Y0u Před měsícem

    Another video. Yes I shall watch

  • @shinkaiatsuya950
    @shinkaiatsuya950 Před měsícem

    That is an interesting theory regarding Elinalise.

  • @FranciscoMinguez
    @FranciscoMinguez Před měsícem +2

    Nyatalie!

  • @A_itsar
    @A_itsar Před měsícem +3

    Watch as in the future Laplace Fused back together and rewind the update on her body
    Probably not

    • @Darth_Bateman
      @Darth_Bateman Před měsícem

      Nah. We saw the future where hitogami gets gotted by Orsted and his raid team.
      This necessarily implies Orsted kills Demon God Laplace.

    • @Bird-Birdy-Love
      @Bird-Birdy-Love Před měsícem +1

      Spoilers:
      ORsted always managed to eliminate the demon God Laplace on his revival. The problem is that everytime and every solution he tried always ended up him exhausting his power afterword so by the time he confronts hitogami afterword he always ended up losing and relooping. Rudy's actions and the actions of kids afterword are suppose to bring an outcome that will overcome this issue at least that is what the writer is implying.

    • @A_itsar
      @A_itsar Před měsícem

      Smh I've read all of it. T'was a joke

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  Před měsícem

      I don't think it does mean Orsted does kill Laplace. There are loads of ways the author could get around that (as I talked about in the Mad Dragon King Chaos video).

  • @franciszekkapuscinski
    @franciszekkapuscinski Před měsícem +2

    Elinalise is not so secretly fifth treasure of dragon generals 😂.
    Honestly Miko are just humans with effects of magic items.
    Since 5th treasure is something Laplace probably made she might be one...😂

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  Před měsícem

      It's an interesting theory, but I'm not sure about it. The treasures are god orbs, this makes it sound more like the horcruxes from Harry Potter. Of course we don't know much about how Laplace modified her, it could be something that somehow caused this to be true, but at the moment I can't really think how that would work. I think she's just intended to provide support to Orsted.

  • @xenohans9364
    @xenohans9364 Před měsícem

    Great video. As for your finances, have you thought of joining a corporation? It seems Phase Connect is doing auditions if you were interested.

  • @AnyMEmdq
    @AnyMEmdq Před měsícem +1

    Letting it play, commenting and liking for algorithmic gods, but I'll mute the tab because I don't want MT spoilers xD

  • @ElijahtheSaint
    @ElijahtheSaint Před měsícem

    I love how I already know the answer, but i watch just for Natalie!

  • @RobertoMeinhofer
    @RobertoMeinhofer Před měsícem +4

    Ravenous Elinalise!

  • @malikhall8875
    @malikhall8875 Před měsícem +1

    I don’t have money to support😢
    Love every upload though!

  • @Course6Beaver
    @Course6Beaver Před měsícem +1

    I hope Rifujin continues on the happenings after Redundancy especially with the adventures of a certain sacred beast and the savior.

    • @jthadcast
      @jthadcast Před měsícem

      ODT was a huge improvement in writing but i'm not holding out hope it'll be out by 2030.

  • @fateric007
    @fateric007 Před měsícem

    Love your outfits.

  • @ericbunker6242
    @ericbunker6242 Před měsícem

    She can supply mana recharge stones for Orsted to use, bypassing his glacial mana recovery. Laplace's plan all along, interrupted by Fighting God splitting Laplace in two.

  • @RunningOnAutopilot
    @RunningOnAutopilot Před měsícem

    Zenith got telepathy but lost memories and speech from being in magic Crystal
    Elenaleese cams out of a magic crystal with the sex curse and no memories
    Connection?
    Zeniths Crystal was naturally made but it seems like Laplase made the other crystal
    Also magical effects of the body can be effected by objects, either repressed or transferred.

  • @Thiniking
    @Thiniking Před měsícem

    Me thinking I was reading a simple manga, then a great anime and find out there's another story called Old Dragon's Tale.

  • @Prilliyo
    @Prilliyo Před 19 dny

    But what if they find the technique god and reunite him the dragon god or his armor to become Laplace

  • @timblack8796
    @timblack8796 Před měsícem

    I hope things are getting better, I had a good season at the faire so just give me a nyan or ara ara next time on twitch

  • @theboneman7379
    @theboneman7379 Před měsícem +1

    Spoilers:
    I like that Mushoku tensei has no true resolution to fixing some things and that it ends up being something the cast has to live with rather than finding a magic cure-all.
    I do believe that due to MT magic system there is probably a means to fixing things like Zeniths situation after this current arc, but it's simply a situation of dedication to learning it but lacking the materials to do so. Kinda like telling someone to learn coding because it's possible but not giving them any form of books or research on how to start. I mean, TP 4 shows it's probably possible to do most things with the magic of this world, but that it requires extreme precision and knowledge, I'd even wager its probably possible to extend one's life in this world if someone had the heart to do it.
    But that's not what MT is about. It's about life and some things in life you just kinda have to deal with because trying to force the situation to bend to the way you want could end with you getting nothing or worse.
    One thing I was told is that apparently all of Rudeus' Wives had an ideal fantasy where it was him and them individually but they realize that their lot in life is perfectly fine and they're willing to live the way they do because they got other things that make them happy instead of looking to a scenario that not real and expecting life to turn out exactly how they envision it. Now, if that's true, I love that. That's a maturity to a story you rarely see in mainstream works because oftentimes the author does end up making a means for the ideal version to become possible (which isn't bad, just gets repetitive sometimes).
    Wow, I rambled a bit. Point I'm trying to make is that I like that there's no cure all to Elinelise, Orsted, and Zeniths problem, and if there is, it's realistically hard to get to.

  • @Prilliyo
    @Prilliyo Před měsícem

    Elinalise is Orsteds battery

  • @johnmartinez-valentin5427
    @johnmartinez-valentin5427 Před měsícem

    That is some curse

    • @MrWescottX
      @MrWescottX Před měsícem

      Ikr to make her going wild with different men in bed

  • @jayceewilliams5250
    @jayceewilliams5250 Před měsícem

    Their kid would be a quarter hobbit, quarter human, 50% elf

  • @crxthrasher
    @crxthrasher Před měsícem

    Still don't get why she can't just use an ineficiente spell several times a day, or help with nanahoshis circles or something

  • @zachjenkins3292
    @zachjenkins3292 Před měsícem +2

    Spoilers
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    Talking about Orsted's slow mana recovery, it's a bit disheartening that Rudy and co managed to create a mana recovery potion but only for it to not work on Orsted.

  • @Skepticalraven
    @Skepticalraven Před měsícem +1

    I don't care that Cliff has a sexy elf fiancé. It should've been me.

  • @FranciscoMinguez
    @FranciscoMinguez Před 21 dnem

    So we all know you’re not fond of Roxy. Any chance you can make a video where you highlight why you consider her worst girl and absolutely roast her?

  • @jebes909090
    @jebes909090 Před měsícem

    So you think lara and orsted are gonna get together.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  Před měsícem

      No, I think Orsted will get together with Luicelia Superdia.

  • @A_itsar
    @A_itsar Před měsícem

    I'm more interested on what happens after cliff dies. Will she remarry? Or be celibate and slowly die because of the curse

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  Před měsícem

      Or she could just go back to banging male escorts and randos again, though she'd have a lot less pressure on how often she has to do that thanks to Cliff.

  • @GabeSweetMan
    @GabeSweetMan Před měsícem +4

    Alternate (tongue-in-cheek) galaxy brain take: If you stringently separate the act of cheating from NTR, one could potentially define cheating as only pertaining to the physical act while NTR only pertains to the emotional betrayal. Since the emotions Elinalise feels whilst she is sleeping with another man only strengthens her affections for and desire to reunite with Cliff one could technically argue that her situation is something more akin to an "Inverse NTR."
    In other words, from this highly specific perspective the guy screwing Elinalise is, himself, actually the one being NTR'd by Cliff.
    Really makes you think... 🤔🤔🤔🤔

  • @thant0s
    @thant0s Před měsícem +1

    The moment Elinalise interacted with Cliff was the moment she swiftly became one of my favorite characters in the show, and that's an awfully high bar.
    I enjoy that it's not as though she's been entirely suffering horribly with the curse, but seeing the explosion of genuine affection and desire for "a good man" rather than a warm body to sate the magical parasite threatening to kill her each day, especially when it's clear Cliff is the genuine article who might otherwise be the butt of a joke in many stories, it just clicked, and the "friction" of her circumstances are something they actual handle rather than lean into some weird NTR angle.

    • @jthadcast
      @jthadcast Před měsícem

      totally dropped the ball for me. Elinalise was a perfect character for the first 10 books and then he wrote her into a side note on false morality. around the same time Rudeus bought Julie. after writing a whole book on the immorality of sex slavers he goes and writes a Elina's curse to solidify a child's view relationships and marriage.

  • @sam7559
    @sam7559 Před měsícem +1

    I don't like the curse but to me it comes off as the author going "how can I justify this hot elf chick to be slutty but also not at fault so fans don't hate her for being slutty" the magic sex curse didn't need to exist.

    • @NatalieXHunter
      @NatalieXHunter  Před měsícem +1

      But she's only slutty until she meets Cliff. If he wanted to make a character that was like that just for the sake of it, he would have just done that instead of having her fall in love and stop being like it really early in the story... sure its not 'necessary' that there's a sex curse in the series, but it's not like it's something done just to be ecchi either (though it'd be fine if it was, imo, it's an adult series).

    • @sam7559
      @sam7559 Před měsícem

      @NatalieXHunter it is entirely something that was created from the ground up to be ecchi with post narrative justification. Maybe I just use a different lens of media analysis, but I default pretty heavily to Doylist analysis. The method of mana regulation could've been literally anything other than, for example, a monthly ritual during the full moon. I also do admittedly due to my asexual nature have a negative bias towards sex which also aligns with a heavy negative opinion towards things like the show's protagonist and his sex pest behaviors.

  • @jthadcast
    @jthadcast Před měsícem

    what's not acceptable is the shame fest he wrote to nerf one of the best characters and only acknowledge her 10 books later. same dirty he does to Eris, too weak to keep strong female characters without hobbling them with subservience.

  • @Azuciea
    @Azuciea Před měsícem

    I could cure Elinalise's curse ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • @liamscott1905
    @liamscott1905 Před měsícem

    SPOILER
    Is there a reason cliff couldn’t do the same for zanoba so he can have sex? Since his power means he can’t feel sex.