Do other characters find out Rudeus was reincarnated? Mushoku Tensei SPOILERS
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In Mushoku Tensei season 2 we see Sylphy asking Nanahoshi about what she meant by her coming from the same place as Rdudy. But do other characters like Rudeus' wives and sisters ever find out he was reincarnated from another world? And if they do, how do they react? This videos explains some of the key answers to this, and what they say about the Jobless Reincarnation story. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Paul would likely go crazy not being able to comprehend the difference in his expectations of someone with a adult mind and how Rudeus acted as a child/adult mind and would probably pass out from his brain getting overloaded and waking up a week later.
He would have a better understanding of what happened when Paul tried to discipline his son for fighting, and probably come to a new realization about Rudy and his being part of his sister's lives
He would also probably replay the scene when his wife found out about the maid and his son put all the blame on him.
11:04 to be fair, Paul understood that Rudy was smarter for his age that he was, they even discussed some adult topics as basically friends.
Yeah, I think he just thinks he's a genius, though, which is only backed up by the fact Aisha is extremely smart and perceptive, too. He just thinks he's got two weirdly smart kids and one normal one.
@@NatalieXHunterpaul must think his genes are insane xd
@@punjra1463 To be fair, it's the truth
"Rudeus is Rudeus"
-Greyrat, Eris
She is a real one.
Funny thing is if you toggle @Exapico comment, you get:
"Rude is Rude"
-Greyrat, you will be
Maybe Eris is working at Google.
Eris is simple, anything more complex than "Do the thing to get the result" is instantly simplified in her mind as such.
"Rudeus is Rudeus" is the most Eris way of perceiving the situation. She literally doesn't care or want to be bothered with anything more than what she knows to be true.
It's respectable that she is well aware of her self in this manner and isn't archetypically depicted as most characters like her are.
That is to say that most are Dumb & Clueless whilelacking any self awareness. Where as Eris is not the most intellectually gifted, has difficulty expressing her feelings and is conciousnessly aware of both.
Eris also doesn't let that fact stop her from pursuing growth what she identifies as her true strengths to be able to stand next to her perception of Rudeus.
She knows what she knows, knows how she feels and believes wholeheartedly she needs to learn how to be a better person to be with Rudeus.
She is a brilliantly written character overall.
Eris : "cool story bro, now let me turn that pelvis of yours to dust"
My favorite chat up line.
Eris reaction is great. She just asks him if he's still him, and when reassures her she asks if she should keep the secret from Sylphie and Roxy. When he says that she should keep it to herself for now, she simply tells him to hold her hand. That's it. The person she loves, that she has always loved, is standing there with her after a long separation and she wants him to hold her hand. Nothing else really matters.
can you source the novel? I'd like to read that part again
@@macomonkey6969 it's the end of volume 15 (the whole book is my favorite), but I don't have like a link for you. There's an audio book here on youtube though.
@@rakaman27 righteo!
Eris just asks him if he's the same Rudy she's known for years to which he says yes and then she asks if he's going to tell Roxy and Sylphy which he says eventually. Also yes his past life was in his 30s and 40s. But mentally he never grew past his 9th grade year. I don't care if a man is 100yrs old, if he never talked to anyone past dropping out of school then mentally he is still a teenager. His parents just kept leaving food at his door until they passed away. He had never had a job so when his siblings kicked him out he was homeless. The universe took pity on him when he tried to sacrifice himself to save 3 high school students.
What I remember is that it wasn't pity of the universe that gave him a second life, it was an accident because someone else was supposed to be transported and his soul slipped trough.
Though I don't want to say more because it would be spoiler
This is one side of the "reborn" trope that I feel gets left out of the discussion so often. The interesting thing is, a lot of older anime/manga in the late 80s, 90s, and even 2000s seemed to understand that some might have an issue with the whole mental age thing - and hence why a lot use the concept of them growing at least to be a teenager or so before regaining memories. The whole idea being that they're specifically making the point that the person has a mental age of the body they're in, and the regained memories are just memories not a jump in "mental age". Others around the same time tackled it from the other angle of letting them keep their memories from birth, but due to having to grow up from baby to teenager along with all the various chemicals involved in that - they end up with a mental & emotional age that matches their body, even if they might have the wisdom/intellect of someone much older. I feel like a lot of anime/manga in the last 10 or 20 years has stopped trying to explain why reincarnation is fine for a character as it became accepted within the genre - but sadly they're done it at a time when there are more people wanting to point out why anime/manga or characters are problematic, meaning we rarely get given explanations now outside of gender or species changes.
@@Alex.5877 still I'm jealous of Rudeus. I can only hope and pray Reincarnation is real, and that just maybe in another universe there is a planet like the 6 sided world. Ever since I was old enough to read I was fascinated by monsters and magic and adventurers. That said while I have a high IQ, my mental age isn't very high. I forgot what it's called. But because I avoided other kids growing up and was bullied. I never learned how to be social. There's times when someone tries to talk to me at a grocery store, I end up feeling like I'm a little kid. One of the reasons despite my parents trying I couldn't keep a job for very long. Because the minute a supervisor gets mad or someone talks down to me I cower in a corner.
@@thomaswagner3934 hold up wait a minute ? why does this sound like my life ?
In essence, Rudy cares disproportionately more about his family finding out about his reincarnation than any of them could ever possibly care about what or who he used to be before they loved him.
Isn’t that how these situations often go? These kinds of secrets are usually more damaging in our own minds than they actually are once exposed.
I see Rudy's past self as being another person and think that he does as well to a certain extent. Even IRL sometime people with change their names and drastically change their identities to the point where who they were when they were younger was another person.
Yeah, that's true, even in real life people do that (for instance trans people), and I guess they probably do think of their past self as a different person they don't really relate to now, even if they have their memories. I think that is shown by how uncomfortable he is in the scenes with Hitogami where he appears as his past self.
@@NatalieXHunter I always figured that that discomfort was the entire reason why Hitogami dragged Rudy into that astral plane. Just another way to screw with him.
Yeah I think that's true.
@@NatalieXHunter i hate my past self i wanna punch him to dea-
With some characters its implied.
When Roxy talks to Rudeus about his parents funeral she knows it cant possibly be Paul hes talking about and reincarnation is a thing mages of this world can know about. But its mostly restricted to the Dragons in form of magic and Demon Kings, physically.
Both Zenith and Ghislaine in their respective chapters realize some of the "adult" signs Rudeus has. Ghislaine compared his writing to that of a middle aged man after she learned how to read and Zenith notices beviour like he knows better how to take care of a toddler then her.
Its missing in the anime but several character to pick up on it.
Perugius also knows since it is discussed in his castle, the little voyeur.
And on a side not Philip wouldnt care but rather probably like it for his political movement.
Yeah, as I said in the video, the ones who are discussed are the ones who definitely know something rather than finding Rudy a bit uncanny as a child, and who have some kind of reaction, and who one might expect it to be a surprise to (Perugius for instance, is from another world himself, and Orsted already knew Rudy was a strange presence in this time loop and had met Nanahoshi already, so I didn't feel like them knowing was the same kind of vibe as Sylphy, Eris and Aisha). It is possible lots of people know - I mean, after childhood, where it gave him an advantage and may have made his family feel differently about him, he has no reason to keep it a secret, but at the same time, his shame about who he was before does mean he's not fond of thinking or talking about it (hence why he doesn't tell Nanahoshi who he actually was in Japan until right before they think she's going back). He'd probably rather not bring it up himself and just live as his new self, but he also doesn't need to act or lie to cover it up once he's an adult.
When the only ones who have access to that kind of magic are dragons and demon emperors like Kishi, I can imagine how Phillip would leverage that knowledge.
Given how some people react to the slavery market and Rudy accepting it being part of the world and didn't complain or try to change this, simply bc in OUR world it's bad and not normal for centuries and even try to make it sound like the author was promoting slavery shows that people don't have the brain capacity to comprehend Rudeus relation in the world he lives now.
Well the season 2 episode that had that, they were in Ranoa, which as far as I can tell is North Central Continent territory.
Slavery in the north territories is probably where it is most allowed, Rudeus even thought that he could kill the slave owner and stuff but would be hunted down and killed.
He knew he wasn’t freeing or saving any slaves here, he was just buying one and they would work on something without actually making the choice to do that themselves.
So then he got the idea that if (Julie) wanted to die, that he would do that, perhaps she could be reincarnated like him and live a better life.
But when she said she didn’t wanna die, Rudeus remarked on the fact that she didn’t say she wants to live but if she didn’t wanna die, that’s fine. He just wanted to feed her, get her new clothes and stuff.
So he does care but not anymore than we do right now, like I know there is slaves in the world now, if I somehow got in a situation. I wouldn’t do anything either, not because I am a bad person. But because I can’t do anything and I don’t wanna die.
Rudeus is selfish still, he isn’t gonna risk his life and almost 100% get killed in that scenario.
Assuming you mean the anime episode.
Since there isn’t much outrage for things not adapted.
He accepted it because he can't do anything about it and it's not normal in this world.
Most likely reaction would be "that explains some things about his childhood", given the world's setting. Past a certain point, people don't change that much unless they do so deliberately. But his behaviors/capabilities as a kid would be something unusual that would merit at least some kind of explanation, especially since he isn't a constant genius all the time.
Similarly, "mental age" mostly matters for whether someone has matured enough to act like an adult. Some people manage this by/before their 20s in many respects, just lacking a bit of experience when compared to themselves 20 years later, but most similar values/desired outcomes. Others remain immature into their 40s, 50s, and older.
I legit think I was more mature when I was 18 than I am now.
I like to believe Paul would have a “YUUREKA” moment, finally understanding why his own son felt more mature than him at times
I also don’t know if he treat him differently or not
My gut says no though
By the end there, they were closer to friends that butted heads from time to time. I blame the Greyrat blood for that. All Greyrats seemed to be hot blooded when they got emotional. Rudy was probably the most sedate one, but that was probably because of his reincarnation than anything else, and even he could be bullheaded at times for no real reason.
I think he'd get mad at the fact that Rudeus didn't think to at least write home after the teleportation incident
@@jessiesargent7212 why?
@IHatoHandels he was already upset about his 11 year old kid not thinking to write home after being teleported, now imagine him knowing that he had the wisdom of an adult
"would you think of me as royalty?" Lowkey, classy enough for it.
LOL, like Lalatina?
Exactly! See you get it. :b
Great video!
I kinda think it would be/have been interesting for Lilia to find out. Like, she already suspected something was up from when he was an infant, so I don’t know how much effect it would have… but it could confirm some of her suspicions and bring her a little extra peace.
Yeah, that would be interesting, especially considering she thinks she and Aisha owe Rudy their lives (even though actually, they don't, given that they exist in every other Orsted loop so it's clear Zenith wouldn't have kicked Lilia out anyway). I guess she'd still think that was the case even if she knew the advantages he'd had as a kid, but it might change her perspective on it a bit, as well as making her less creeped out by how uncanny he was as a baby.
I'm pretty sure Lilia knows though. Sure Aisha figures it out, but I doubt Lilia had no impact on that outcome.
Finding out he was simply a thirty year old pervert rather than possessed by a demon would've such a huge relief for her.
Chad Eris - I don't care because I'm 50IQ
Ayeee always a treat when Natalie drops a video
Roxy knows as well. After Begaritt when Rudeus speaks of his "hypothetical" situation, Roxy replies and says something like I think "you"... Meaning she knew he was speaking of himself.
Yeah, there are certainly things that suggest she and many other people knew, but for this video I wanted to stick to cases where there's a definite scene about it and the character reacts. I did say they are not necessarily the only ones who know, just the most interesting to look at in this context.
great video, can't wait for the next one!
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@@NatalieXHunter Will a Lego house do?
Nyo. A Barbie house, maybe.
Good to see you back nat
I do love that all the characters that know Rudy had a passed life or know there is something more about Rudy that they don't know all the details are all like "Eh" and i think it says a lot about what all the characters have been through up to that stage of their lives like the mass teleportation incident.
And Rudy did always say Aishea was to clever for her own good, guess he was right.
Plus it is rather heartwarming to see that they don't let this change their views on or how they feel about Rudy even when they don't know the full details, they all still love and care for him exactly the same as they did before, he just has some weird quirk to him, he's still the Rudy they care for and they still care about him.
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I think Paul would hate the idea. It's like your son is sort-of not your son. Like Paul and Zenith didn't give birth to new life and had zero passing personality traits of their own.
I don't think he would, like, your kids can have totally different personalities to you normally - like, Aisha doesn't really have the same personality as Lilia or Paul in any way - and physically he still has their genetics. I think it would mess with his head that Rudy was mentally older when he was raising him, but he still did teach him a lot of things and they did bond, so I think he'd still love him.
Not that they would know it but in every loop before Rudy, their child died before being born. But if you want a realistic depiction of the scenario you are thinking about, I highly recommend "The beginning after the end" another story about a character being reincarnated and at a pivotal point where he has to go away for awhile to prepare for a incoming war he opts to tell his parents that he is reincarnated, it's a heart breaking scene with a ton of depth.
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I don't think Paul's expectations of his son would change if he found out. Paul is still Rudy's father and Zenith is still Rudy's mother, I doubt their feelings towards their child would change much even if they came to truly believe their son had a past life somewhere. Rudy isn't some reincarnated demon hellbent on destroying the world so it just wouldn't matter. Parents love their children. They would love and protect him regardless of faults or mistakes in his past life. They will worry about the Rudeus that they know and not the one that they will never know.
I don't think they'd change if they found out at the current point in the anime, but if they found out when he was a tiny child, maybe they'd kinda, not know what to do with him, iykwim. Like how can you raise a kid like a normal toddler when you know they have the inner monologue of someone like 10 years older than you!
awesome explanation I tend to get annoyed when people bring up the whole age thing.
Doesn't matter what actually happens in the story, twitter antis will still complain. They base their whole lives around complaining about things on twitter.
Eris is so special as always. I've read the whole novels and resolved that Eris is the one for Rudeus. She is just perfect as she is and always there for Rudy whatever happens. Definitely a dream woman.
She's my favorite, too, but I like Sylphy a lot as well. I'm not that fussed about Roxy.
@@NatalieXHunter I agree and love them too. But the whole progress with Eris is just so good and natural from the start to finish.
@@onur6145 That's a tsundere for you.
re reading the series has made me appreciate Eris more
I think you mean husband.
You made some really great points. This can be applied to people who have very different childhoods in this world. I know some people who grew up surrounded by bigots and hate and used to be that way... then they changed, grew up, and evolved, understanding that that part of their past was shameful. You wouldn't know from talking to them today because people change.
Paul's reaction would be interesting. I would like to see Zenith's, Ruijurd's, Cliff's, and Norn's reactions
I honestly don’t think Ruijurd would care all that much. He might make a comment about how they were more alike than he thought. Rudy’s desire to leave the life that he was ashamed of to become a better man definitely rings close to Ruijurd’s mission to reclaim his tribe’s honor after their own sordid past. But beyond that, he’d probably accept with fewer questions than Eris did.
Why would she care about him having a past life? Eris didn’t know the old person he was, she only knows Rudy, that’s exactly how she would think. She doesn’t have a perverted disgusting mind like those people who make this claim.
I've actually always wondered this, as someone who's an anime only, also I wish isekai stories would talk more about this.
Hello again Natalie, it's good to see your video. I don't comment on everyone, but I'm thankful that you post your videos and keep going. I know that everything hasn't been perfect for you but I'm cheering you on keep living keep striving and do not give up. I can't offer much other than my emotional support as a viewer but I'm just so happy that you keep going. I hope that you feel better even if you have a good day. I hope it wasn't too much, but I really wanted to show my gratitude as I've watched a lot of your videos and am really glad to have met such an awesome anime CZcamsr. Also this is an awesome topic to cover I've been wondering about for a while
Thank you so much!
@NatalieXHunter you are always welcome. I don't wanna sound parasocial but I do care about people whether it's the content or the person behind the screen both are important and you're at your best when both are in tip top shape. Just remember I'll always be rooting for you even if I don't comment on every video.
That's really sweet of you, thanks for taking the time to encourage me!
I just realised she looks like lilia
Nah, I don't wear glasses!
Paul would probably be so relieved to learn that, it would finally make everything just make sense
Look, it's a story the author spins. He can do what he likes, as long as the story works and is entertaining. I am non-plussed about any of these controversies. Entertain me! Make me involved! Make care and and emotionally attached. Make the story flow, should it only 99% make sense, that's okay too. Maybe something is wrong with me? Hey bring Rudie back in the sequel, do it right and I am all for it! :-)
I enjoyed the video
Reudeus actually decided to tell his wives about his past life at the end of the deleted chapter. If anything from that chapter stays in the LN, I'd love to see how that conversation unfolds.
Yeah, I think they all know he HAD a past life at that point, so the point is more that he's going to tell them what kind of person he was, like he does with Aisha. I think that would definitely be interesting to see, but I don't think it'll change their minds about him, I think if anything they'd feel sad for him - they know what he's like now (given he's probably in his 30s when the Aisha chapter happens).
Fun y u say that cause that happened to diet mushaoku tensei a.ka. the beginning of the end ( the story was a bit samey for about 30osh chapters for me ) but in that story the main character reveals to his family ( who are totally not missing a dad or a veggie mom)
Yeah they were kind shocked
I know it's never mentioned (yet) but you also have to think in the future that his daughter (Laura i think) is able to stop the Man God etc with the help of Orsted so you would assume that at point she finds out her dad was reincarnated etc.
Lara. But she'd probably know somehow anyway, she's got spooky powers. I don't think it's necessarily the case that she stops Hitogami with Orsted's help, though - all we know is she was a hero prophesized by the beast tribes - it'll probably be more like she helps Orsted (much like Ruijerd helped seal Laplace).
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New episode today, so I expect it will!
I love that Eris is just so straight forward that she doesn't care because as she said "Rudeus is Rudeus". Sylphie is still my favorite but Eris is my favorite in terms of the interactions here. And yeah peoples whole arguement around his wives dumping him if they knew his mental age is proven wrong. Personally, I still don't consider him the culimitive age of his past and present as I think his new biology is probably affecting his mental growth as well but like I said thats a personal view.
If Slyphy found out and was given great detail about what kind of person who was she would probably put together why his legs would shake when around something involving bullying and also be conflicted that he died in his past life saving Nanahoshi of all people
You should do cut content on the new mushoku tensei videos
Eris and asiha are the last people to be bothered by it after what happens in tp4
Finally got around to watching the first season of this show and honestly, this show is waaay better than I expected! It's actually pretty awesome! :) Plus twatter hates it, so that's a huge bonus!
Curious, as how Paul would react if it would be similar to Reynolds finding out Arthur’s identity in The Beginning After The End
i qould have thought roxy would have been one of the people to find out but i guess not all the important characters were going to find out
She probably does know or suspect something, but there's no one scene where it really comes up or we see how she'd react to it. She'd probably be the least bothered by it of all, though, given she's about the same age as his cumulative age anyway, and it would make her feel better about being surpassed by a little kid at the start if she knew he had the mind of an adult. Though, she is also the one most curious about things, so you'd think she'd want to learn about the other world, too.
behavior is inextricably linked with physiology so even if an adult consciousness were to be inserted in to a child's body it would be subject to the physical demands that come with being a physical child such as hormonal impulses or the lack there of
Yeah, but intelligence is what we're talking about here, and in this case he seems to have both his adult intelligence AND a child's ability to learn very quickly, which gives him a big advantage. Hormonal stuff would theoretically come from his physiology and affect his behavior and mood, but in an impossible fantasy situation where a baby has the mind of an adult, it's hard to say whether this was something the author really worried about reflecting or not.
*spoilers for the beginning after the end *
Arthur leywin has that happen when he tells his parents he is reborn from another world and his parents at first take it very badly but it is interesting to see that side of isekai
I mean why would it matter to Eris? She's been in combat with him and traveled as an adventurer with him on the Demon Continent. She knows the important stuff about him.
Random thought I had concerning future events with Zenith after she gets rescued. I'd strongly consider turning her mom into chunky salsa for even suggesting what she does.
Zenith doesn't want that, though. When Rudy is allowed to sentence her, Zenith gets up and slaps him. It does kind of make sense, too, given Claire only knows the story that someone else had the same curse and that's the only thing that cured them. But since that was Elinalise, and her curse was different (and it didn't cure her memory loss anyway) and Rudy knows all about Elinalise's situation, he can tell Claire it was a flawed approach. But still, clearly Claire did not actually like the idea, she just thought it would save Zenith. None of them knew until the Miko read her memories that Zenith was even aware of things, either.
@@NatalieXHunter I didn't say I'd do it. Just strongly consider it.
To me Eris learned that Rudy had lived another life was not a big deal for 1 reason. That being that it only helps Eris understand why Rudy is so Awesome 🎉 to her. Eris knows Rudy loves her and that to her is only thing that still matters. 😊
I don't think it would have bothered Paul like you think. To me it would have made perfect sense to him considering how weird Rudy acted as 3-6 kid. I also think that Lilia would have not been surprised considering how creeped out she was with Rudy until he saved her life at the family emergency.
Yes, next question.
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A finest moment of "your not Important/Special to everyone"
Perhaps better ways to say it but essentially, everyone has their own stuff to worry about, and often have little interest or care in things outside of those interests or goals, somthing important to you is irrelevant to another, sad as it may feel sometimes,
All the more reason people who care about YOU are important and deserve your investment in turn.
Treat those who will ultimately make life worth living... Just like the many Friends and Family or Rudy
Paul would have reacted the same like Arthur dad from "beginning after the end" manwha
Quite a lot of people have mentioned that manwha but I haven't read it yet. I hear only good things about it, though.
@NatalieXHunter not spoiling but if you love jobless you gonna love this.. similar
After the Aisha told Rudy that she knew and after Aisha banished for a while few years, that night Rudy had a special meeting with all his wives in his bed room to discuss in detail him being reincarnated and possible triggers from his past life that they may need to protect Rudy from or just to help them understand why does things.
actually I would add 2 to the list as not confirmed but one knows something is up and one of them knows it all possibly. For the first is Roxy- she doesn't know everything but knows somethings up but doesn't push. The reason for this is the seen when she talks to Rudy in the room after the rescue mission. The other is Zenith and if she knows she knows. When Rudy was around Zenith after the mission his thoughts were on the death and reflecting to his past life. Given Zenith's powers she would know if they are active at that point and if she knows she took the Eris approach since Rudy is still her son (Claire incident). relooked through miko part probably didnt realize it then but there is still a chance she finds out at some point since Rudy always reflects on his past life at points and it can randomly happen. Also kinda need to add Laura to the list also as a possibly and during jobless oblige cuz it seemed she understood her dad the most out of all the siblings.
I think Zenith can only communicate telepathically with other telepathic people (so Lara and Leo, basically, but if she went to the Migurd village I think she would be able to communicate with all of them) - I don't think she can fully read minds.
@@NatalieXHunter Personally reading the miko's chapter again i am still convinced she can read minds but only surface thoughts. My reason is pointing towards the times when Zenith would recall memories with them saying things to her and Rudy remembering it a totally different way and usually them saying nothing (Asia and Zenith in the garden/ Norn and Zenith scene).
Possibly, yes, I took that as a kind of perception she had from her dreamlike state, but yeah, she probably intuits some underlying thoughts rather than listening to what is being said due to her unusual state of consciousness. I don't think she can read minds to the level of knowing people's secrets, though. Still, if she does know, clearly she is at peace with it, because she seems happy in her own way with her life with the family.
have you tried livestreaming?
Yes, I have a Twitch channel - those long videos I posted recently are mostly highlights from streams.
When it comes to past life / reincarnation in anime I think the two that did it best is Overlord and Weakest Tamer Picks Up Trash.
Overlord because there's a clear conflict in the beginning where Ainz realizes just how different he is becoming due to his new form. And rather than trying to be a human in an undead body he tries his best to become the Overlord that the guardians see him as.
Weakest Tamer was great because it showed a clear distinction between the two personalities. Her past life as a Japanese person is like a second voice in the back of her mind acting and thinking separately from the personality she was born with.
Time skips can be really bad for the reader because they don't see the advancing of years (and decades sometimes) so they almost act as if it never happened. Humans change over time and are heavily influenced by their environment.
Paul probably thinks of Rudeus as just being very smart and book suave. Books allow us to extrapolate information from the lifes of others by giving us an avenue to experiencing things without actually experiencing them ourselves. Because Rudeus grew up reading basically everything he could, most especially things related to magic, Paul probably always thought Rudeus's wisdom was a continuation of that passed down wisdom.
Because the break down between father and son relationship happens when Rudeus is around 5 years old anyways, Paul finding out later that the kid had an adults mind the whole time from a past life would almost certainly result in Paul having some sort of a mental break down and it almost certainly would result in Paul and Rudeus's relationship being more strained, since Paul excused some of Rudeus's actions as "Too harsh to take out on a child his age". The internal conflict of Paul seeing Rudeus as his son, or as something else would probably result in Paul picking one or the other, either disbelief that Rudeus had such a past and insisting Rudeus was his child, or rejecting Rudeus as his son and disowning him as such.
What books and you going to do audible
In the manhwa, the beginning after the end, which is another isekai story, a little bit similar to MT, the father and mother found out about their son is reincarnated from another world, and they got enraged as they were thinking, if the MC killed their “son” also the father also mentioned that a grown man was being nurtured by his wife 😂
A lot of people are bringing that up but I haven't read it.
I can ask around, but what type of editing can you do?
I have experience with just about everything at this point, so I can offer proof reading or full in-depth editing for most types of writing.
@@NatalieXHunter Do you still do ghost writing? Or ghost writing with editing?
I think The begging of the end had one of the best reincarnation reveal in any isekai so far .
I agree with most of your points but I also think most characters would care about him being reincarnated. It would hurt his "child prodigy" status, for one. Reincarnation may be common in this world, but it is also commonly perceived as a continuation of one's consciousness and not just as "memories of a past life", so many would see him as that person. I agree they wouldn't care so much about his cumulative age but they'd care about him pretending to be a child when he wasn't, and the passes he was given because of it. I think at least some would feel a bit deceived and at least Sylphy would be very much interested in knowing about this whole life he had before her, and how that may affect her status as the childhood friend. The way I see it, Eris's reaction isn't the norm, but very much exclusive to her as the meatbrain that she is. I think maybe only Zanoba would react the same way.
Sylphy doesn't seem overly concerned with it though, aside from how it connects him to Nanahoshi, and Sylphy is smart. I think maybe she's just a 'why rock the boat' type person. I do think if people had known when he was a child it would have changed things, but once he's an adult and has already proven he's competent in things that weren't carried over from his old world (like magic and speaking multiple languages from the new world), nobody is really going to think too much on how he had an intelligence advantage as a kid. Maybe Cliff would be pleased to know, because Cliff actually just is that smart and talented without the reincarnation advantage, and knowing Rudy was only better than him as a kid because of that might give him a sense of relief, but I don't think most people who know him as an adult would be that bothered.
What people need to understand is that his past life barely counts cause he is a victim of trauma that shut down away from society. He didn’t know how to deal with friends family or relationships. But in the end, even a completely mindblown Paul would acknowledge he loves his son.
Didn't Perugius also know? Couldn’t he hear the conversation Rudeus and Nanahoshi had in his castle when they talked about who they were in Japan? Also Nanahoshi’s reaction after she finds out Rudeus was the fat guy who tried to save her.
I didn't include Perugius or Orsted because it is a slightly different thing for them to know (they're both from another world themselves and know about summoning/teleportation etc) - I wanted to cover the people who you would expect to perhaps find it odd that their husband/brother has reincarnated from another world, and who have specific reactions to discuss (which is why I didn't cover Roxy either, though there are things that suggest she may know, we never see her react in any particular way or discuss it with Rudy, so there isn't much to talk about).
I think I’ve watched the deleted chapter video but forgot everything.
I made it a couple of years ago, I can't even remember exactly what's in it!
I read it couple days ago. It wasn't as bad as the internet claimed it was. It wasn't sexualised in any way. Merely a commentary on how Aisha after seeing Norn get married and her being 25 years old and single. Made her feel like she had lost in life. And had developped feelings towards Ars. Eventually lead into physical relationship. Rudy just happened to stumple on them when they were at it and then the situation just blew up and they ran away from home. Aisha deeply begins to regret that decision but they eventually soothe things over. It was quite honestly really well written.
Yeah there's nothing grpahic in it, it's a situation a lot of people have a kneejerk grossed out reaction to, but the point of it is the family drama not anything sexual. Though I've had people comment that they find Norn and Ruijerd completely horrifying and unacceptable on here so if people can't handle a woman in her 20s marrying a long lived man just because 'she was a kid when she met him' then they're not going to be able to deal with the Aisha chapter.
@@NatalieXHunter Lucy ended up marrying her great grandmothers son too. I guess the Greyrats really keep it in the family :)
I got into Mushoku Tensei through a youtuber named Otaku Spirit he has quite a long light novel discussion series called Mushoku Mondays. He goes through the chapters and does excellent voice acting. Unfortunately I caught up to his content on volume 18. And he only does a chapter or two per week.
I've been thinking about getting the light novels myself. But I lost my job at the end of last year and food prizes basically shot through the roof here in Finland. So I've been on a really tight budjet lately.
But I do enjoy seeing these youtube videos about Mushoku Tensei that aren't mired in controversy and talks about how they morally disagree with either Rudeus or the author.
Thanks for another entertaining video. Keep up the good work.
The Greyrat family tree is a tumbleweed lol
I do think that it should matter, but I'm not talking from a moral perspective. From what I can tell, most men would be interested in minors as long as they have started to develop their assets, but besides it being a taboo what really puts most of them off is the difference in experience and mental development. Now, imagine what it would mean to live for centuries and see short-lived species repeat the same old mistakes over and over again and not learning from their history that for you is only recent...
I know what you mean, but it would also depend what you value or consider mistakes. A warrior like Ruijerd is hundreds of years old but hasn't concerned himself with social things, for instance, so would he see Norn, who is only in her 20s when they marry, and who isn't a warrior, as making foolish mistakes in her endeavours which he has no experience of? We may think of younger people as making mistakes or being less interesting because they have less experience, but that's because they have less experience in the same things as us. In a world where people are concerned with very different things, I think a socially adept human would seem perfectly competent and interesting to a centuries old tribal warrior.
I would say sounds cool to me
I only wish those complainers would look at it like that
I won't deny that some of his actions as a child made me uncomfortable, even knowing about his bullying. I am glad it was addressed with how much Rudy changes over the course of the story, because I see too many people trying to justify his actions, even in his past life. And while I understand 'why' he was that way, that still doesn't mean it's okay, which I do wish had been addressed directly but I know it wouldn't make sense for Rudy to see it that way. Granted, I always feel uncomfortable when two obviously underage characters get that intimate, regardless of how "that world" sees it. I'm glad it wasn't focused on until Rudy was older and attending school, when those sort of things are more natural. Plus the ED storyline felt kind of like a wake-up call for him in so many ways, so it was interesting.
Have you read The Beginning After The End?
Not yet. I've heard it's good though.
can you talk about aisha finding out in detal
I know how the protagonist feels, I too became a shut in. Only I waited to at least graduate first. That said I am a lot worse in some ways because of my poor childhood. Paul was not the best father but in a lot of ways he was better than mine. At least Rudeus had his mom to cling to. Sorry, guess I'm kind of ranting at this point. I just wish I had a Sylphy in my life. Maybe in the next life
Well, Rudy hasn't seen his mom since he was like, 7... I hope your Sylphy comes along one day, though!
@@NatalieXHunter thank you very much. He's still a Mama's boy at heart. The closer I get to 40, the less likely that is. Besides I'm a shut in. I was in an abusive relationship then my dad died and my dog right after him. I just read LN's and write stories.
Well, I'm 41, and my mom died, and the guy I thought I'd be with for life broke up with me two years ago, so, if I can still hope for things to turn around, you can too!
@@NatalieXHunter sorry that happened, the people you think are the greatest can turn on you in an instant. To be fair I was warned by people. But naturally I found out the hard way several broken bones later.
i'm like that too.. broken..
isnt there a theory that Zenith knew from when he was little since she could read minds?
No. Zenith gets a telepathic ability but she didn't have it when he was little, and it's not quite the ability to fully read minds anyway.
Just want to comment to help your channel.
I think YES, pls make the deleted chapter, is gonna help you with content and because is not canon will be a thing for debate 👍
Huh? I already made that video about 2 years ago! It's one of my most popular videos. You can find it in the MT Analysis playlist.
Sorry you're having money problems. Good Luck!
I'm a bit confused. You mentioned that the niece incident isn't canon neither in the LN or anime, the latter adapting the former. But in the second episode of the first season you can clearly see the past self Rudeus watching a voyeur video from what it seems an underage girl using the toilet. Can't we consider the anime as canon? Can you explain a bit of that please?
It was hentai anime, not voyager.
10:37 or Zenith for that matter.
I think Zenith is less intense about things than Paul so she'd probably just be slightly disappointed her son wasn't actually an amazing genius but then get over that in a couple of minutes and just go back to being his mom. In her post TP3 state it's quite possible she does know, but since there is no concrete scene or reaction to talk about I didn't go into that in the video. Paul definitely doesn't, though.
5 character do find out that Rudy reincarnated.
Roxy finds out a year before Rudy dies.
Sylphiette finds out during her second pregnancy.
One child from each wife finds out at weird times.
The most interesting thing is that Rudy rewrites a book about Isekai reincarnation from Earth in the Light Novels. Only 3 Light Novels series have references that book in English so far; this series, Youjo Senki, and lesser known Isekai series about guns.
Technically Sasaki to Pii-chan and Saving 80,000 Gold in Another World for My Retirement can be on that list but both series are not a permanent Isekai situation.
Overlord, reincarnated as a slime, and How not to Summon a Demon lord will be on that list when specific future novels finally come out in English.
zenith knows as well since she can read minds
Zenith can communicate telepathically with other telepathic people, and she can intuit things to some degree, but she isn't constantly reading the thoughts of everyone around her. That said, there's a strong argument that she does know, but since it's never something we see her react to and it isn't even confirmed that she does, it wasn't something I wanted to include in the video, since there's not really much to say about it. I wanted to talk about the people who do have a reaction to discuss, and the fact Paul definitely didn't know (as obviously if Zenith did it would be after Paul's death).
aishas whole life is sad shes so damn smart but she was born in the wrong world at a bad time and treated like trash. the girls insanely smart and works harder then everyone just to get noticed. I cant just help feel bad for her threw out the full story.
I think she ends up ok, though - and she does get to put her brains to use when she runs the mercenary company.
Nya 😍😍😍😍
Mayhaps
Aisha seems more like a reincarnated being than Rudy.
hey stray cat, come to my place. a cat named fish.
i'd love to put your amazing mind into creating a better society, mushoku aside.
Reincarnation isn't a big thing in that world alot of demon kings are reincarnated I believe like Laplace and the one who gave him the demon eye
Wait, didn't Sylphy & Roxy find out after Aisha gave birth?
In the deleted chapter Rudy does decide to talk to them about his past life, but a) it's the deleted chapter and b) I take it as meaning he'll talk about WHO he was, like he did to Aisha, not about the fact he's had a past life, which they probably already know.
doesnt roxy find out
Pardon me for just throwing this comment out there.
Rudeus does think about Japan every now and then. Not sure how many times Zenith was or would be near enough and if she could piece things together or just enough.
I know Paul or Zenith wouldn't care if they knew the truth. Think both might playfully tease him but still consider him their son.
Someone who it would be interesting to find out is Geese.
Zenith isn't a full on mind reader though - she can intuit things and communicate with other telepathic people, but she's not aware of every thought people have near to her.
@NatalieXHunter oh I guess I understood her situation wrong. My bad and thanks for clarifying.
the only people i can honestly say know are spoilers
roxy at the end of this season kinda finds out. he tells a story about a person and its kinda implied that roxy figures it out. man god of course. nanahoshi for sure. sylphie............kinda.......sorta. its never really clear. eris just kinda grunts and is like was that you i grew up with as a kid, then ok.
It's OK to spoil in the comments for videos that are spoiler videos anyway, so don't worry! I didn't include Roxy in the video because there isn't a definite scene where she learns it and a reaction. I know that's also the case with Sylphy but the Sylphy stuff has already been in the anime so I had to address it.
Wait, Aisha figured it out???
She was Isekaied, wasn't she?
No, Aisha wasn't isekai'd, she's just really smart and put things together. She's in her mid twenties when they have this conversation, so she's spent years knowing Rudeus at that point.
@@NatalieXHunter Wait, so Rudeus tells her?! When did this convo take place!?
@@Darth_Bateman In a deleted chapter of the web novel.
As I said in the video, it's in the deleted Aisha chapter of the Redundancy web novel. And yeah, he tells her but she says she'd already figured it out, more or less. This is when Aisha is in her mid twenties and Rudeus in his 30s.
Mommy maid Natalie. Yum.
It's actually a Nekopara cosplay lol
@@NatalieXHunter EVEN BETTER!!!!!!!!
What about Roxy
Well, there are things that suggest Roxy does know but there isn't one moment or reaction, so it'd never confirmed and doesn't really fit with the purposes of this video. We just don't know for sure. But it doesn't seem like it was a secret either.
@@NatalieXHunter alright then