Star Wars: GROGU in REY TRILOGY? - Mandalorian Jedi WAR Coming?
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- The Star Wars Rey Trilogy Explained! The story of Force Awakens, the Last jedi, and Rose of Skywalker continues with Rey rebuilding the Jedi Order--but will she cross paths with an almost-Jedi...the Mandalorian Din Grogu!
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Written by Colton Ogburn ( / coltonogburn )
Hosted by Ryan Arey ( / ryanarey )
Edited by Randolf Nombrado, Rohail Mistry, and Brianna McLarty
#ReyTrilogy #StarWars #grogu
We’re getting a jedi origins film from Logan director James Mangold. A culmination film for the Mandaloarian and its adjacent shows like Ahsoka, directed by the one and only Dave Filoni. And we’re getting a brand new trilogy following Rey Nobody, I mean Palpatine, I mean Skywalker. Following her journey of rebuilding the Jedi order. And we think a certain fan favorite character may be tagging along for the ride. [clip, Grogu]
A little later in the video we’re going to talk about an army of aliens from another galaxy that I think could be the villains of this new trilogy-and bring together the Mandalorians and the Jedi to save the galaxy. But first, let’s talk about Grogu.
The Grogu character is without a doubt the most beloved creation this new era of Star Wars has had to offer. He’s become a bit of a cultural phenomenon, known to most as “Baby Yoda.”
We think Grogu is the future of this franchise and will be around for a long time. [clip, Obi Wan “a long time”]
With his species having a lifespan of nearly a thousand years, we could see Grogu’s adventures span over centuries of Star Wars stories. He was born in the year 41 BBY, Before the Battle of Yavin. That’s the big battle we see in A New Hope. Fun fact for you, Anakin Skywalker was also born in 41 BBY. [clip, fun fact for yuh Mall Cop]
Now this new Rey trilogy is set in the year 50 ABY, 50 years after the Battle of Yavin. And that’s 15 years after the Rise of Skywalker. That would make Grogu 91 years old during this new trilogy. To put that in perspective, Yoda was 100 years old when he became a Jedi Master.
Meaning that at age 91, Grogu will likely be the human years equivalent to a young adult.
Doug: Wait so this Rey trilogy takes place 15 years after The Rise of Skywalker?
Yes
Doug: Oh good, get some distance between that trainwreck.
True that. [highfive]
And look, it’s no secret that myself and many other fans weren’t happy with The Rise of Skywlaker, it was bad. [clip. Somehow Palpatine returned]
But Daisy Ridley and the character of Rey was NOT the problem. I personally feel that she gave a rock solid performance in each of her Star Wars films. And I find Rey to be a really interesting character. She was more interesting before they made her a Palpatine, but oh well.
So I’m really glad that they aren’t abandoning this character despite the poor reception that the sequels and specifically The Rise of Skywalker received. But let me be clear, this character and the franchise itself does have baggage. And that’s yet another reason I think Grogu will be brought into this new trilogy.
Not only does the timeline lineup perfect for him to be a fellow force user working with Rey to rebuild the Jedi Order. But he is a popular and beloved character that can help redeem the saga and its theatrical films. And I think in all likelihood this trilogy will actually be episodes 10, 11, and 12 of the Star Wars Saga.
The thought of a Rey and Grogu duo just gets me giddy. Two powerful force wielders, both temporarily trained by Luke Skywalker, and both trying to find their place in the galaxy. It would be awesome. And if we get to see Grogu riding on Rey’s back, I might cry. [clip]
Now we need to keep in mind that while Grogu is indeed a strong force user, he is NOT a jedi and is not on the path to becoming one. He’s a Mandalorian. [clip, Din taking Grogu on as his apprentice]
And that’s where the plot twist comes- As much as I’d love to see Rey and Grogu be a dynamic duo, it’s possible that at first they could be adversaries. As Rey travels the galaxy looking for force sensitives, she could encounter one of the galaxy's strongest force users, Din-Grogu. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Worst part about these theories is they always end up being better than 80% of the story we actually receive.
Nahhh Fr!!!!
Facts!!!!!
Was thinking the same thing
Word!
Legit! They need to bring some fandoms in as consultants to work along side the writers.
The best thing that came out of Rey being a Palpatine was that one Pitch Meeting joke.
Remind me? If it's not too difficult.
What was the joke though
I think it’s meant to be a joke (haha)
One thing that occurs to me is that the dark sabre has now been broken, but it means there is now a crystal for Grogu to use to make his own sabre.
Let’s be honest the saber duels in the originals are dog shit. Does anyone talk about that
@kauster considering the technology they had back then its better that what the sequels gave us
@kauster because George Lucas wanted the fights to be slower and using each strike with extreme thought. The faster fight with Vader near the end was the most beloved so he went with it for the prequels.
@@paulyanez210 agreed. Stylistically, the original trilogy dual scenes are using the lightsabres with the technique of a fencing épée. The modern duels use a lot of moves stylistically from Japanese martial arts. In my humble opinion, the greatest on screen sword duel of all time is in Princess Bride.
@@mrpocock “Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die”
It will be weird to see Grogu as a talking older character, but damn if they do it right will be a huge surprise. They better not reveal that in a trailer, it needs to be a guarded secret and I want to see it on the big screen.
I think creating a trilogy (or two, why the fuck not?) combining the Thrawn & Yuuzhan Vong story arcs would be HUGE.
It would be so awesome to see Luke in his prime during the ascension of Grand Admiral Thrawn & to see Boba Fett take the fight to the Yuuhzan Vong.
Both are excellent stories and would translate to the screen really well.
All of this could be very well tied together, too;
Heir to the Empire starts about five years after ROTJ, this is the same time as "The Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett & Jedi: Fallen Order"
The Yuuzan Vong arc is roughly the same period.
Personally, I really didn’t care for the whole Vong story line. It felt to me that they came way off the tracks…
@@MikeDodds it's Star Wars that's not Star Wars, I get it. I just love the redemption story for Boba Fett. He proves himself a true Mand'alor, leading his people to unity and freedom. I think it would tie in well with a Dark Empire or GAT arc.
Cheers...
The Grisk seem like the most likely candidates for villains. They have been established by the in-canon Thrawn books but have yet to appear (I think, I haven't read the second trilogy). The Yuuzhan Vong were a big part of the legacy stories (and they killed Chewbacca!!), but have no foundation so far.
It would be easily done though...I mean heck Salvatote took a small little line from Outbound flight and came up with the whole idea...
Depending on what happens in the next Jedi game. They already have a planet to train new Jedi. Cal and Merrin will most likely appear during the Mando timeline. Jace will hopefully have a big role in the anew Order films as he will be in his late 40s.
Jace syndulla? Who cares lol
We know nothing about him yet
1:16 Interesting, I didn't realize that Anakin and Grogu were born in the same year. That would make sense since you can't have the light without the dark. The universe creates them both at the same time. The Jedi figured Anakin would be with them, but the universe knew what he would become.
I suggested a very similar story line recently -- Din Grogu, ruler of Mandalore, must call on the new Jedi order (including Cal Kestis), as some great power from beyond threatens Mandalore and the galaxy more broadly. So I don't think he's going to be helping rebuild the Jedi order.
I guess it's just a really obvious, no-brainer way to go. Grogu brings an extra few hundred million USD to the take all by himself. Probably more. It would be utterly foolish not to have Grogu in the Rey films.
I like Daisy Ridley. The problems with those films had absolutely nothing to do with her performance.
I'm sorry to say but cal would be long dead by then he is older than luke remember
I thank you for saying that about Daisy Ridley. It’s not her fault. She’s a great actress. We all need to remember she didn’t write the script. She performed how they wanted her to. I like your ideal also.
You can like her but it doesn’t mean her character isnt bad, Rey is a bad character and her movies in a way desecrated the story
@@DarthSaggezza yeah no one hates on daisy’s performance, that actor herself dislikes the character Rey and neither do fans, her character was complete crap and was only interesting in ep 7 due to her mysterious-ness but it was the only brief ep 8 she was made to be luke replacement, by completely changing Luke’s character giving kylos backstory made more desecration to Luke’s character if you are a true Star Wars fan before the sequels came out you’d understand the real hate for Rey and not think it’s about the actors performance
@@HTBsnowgoon I’ve been a Star Wars fan for 45 years. I so I understand how passionate people get about Star Wars. Because I am passionate about it to. I have my own opinions about the sequel trilogy that I’ll keep to myself. I just don’t like it when individuals go after an actor or actress in the Star Wars community and make it personal. I’m starting to see a lot of hate in Star Wars communities over this and Obi Won Kenobi series. Some fans take it way too far. But the personally attack an actor or actress for their performance, or the scripts that they were giving is uncalled for. Especially in the Obi-Wan Kenobi series where there was racism throwing around. That hate is way over the line. So that’s why I said what I said about Daisy Ridley. I might not like a movie or part of a Star Wars movie, but I never look at it personal. Some in the Star Wars community takes it personally, and takes it to another level where it should never have gone to in the first place.
I wasn’t bothered by Rey being a palpatine, I was bothered by Palpatine returning in the clunkiest way ever
Agreed. At least the Mandalorian is kind of fleshing it out, but it really made me feel like that movie was kind of undoing the whole Darth Vader sacrifice. I also think it was dumb for Rey to say "Rey Skywalker" when she was asked her name. The whole point of the movie was about how your ancestry doesn't define you and you can be from a lineage of evil and reject the evil. I think she should have responded "Rey Palpatine" to show that she acknowledged her ancestry but chose to bring the Palpatine bloodline into the light.
@@robertanderson4921 Nobody would claim the Palpatine name, that's absurd.
@@dquest007 It was a movie about how your name doesn't define you. Ending by essentially saying that your name does define you is what's actually absurd.
In another story not the previous sequels but the story of emperor palpatine coming back that was not only disney idea that was also another person concept, ITS NOT FULLY DISNEY IDEA 😂
@@dquest007 its not that crazy, its not that different than Goku in dbz being proud of his Saiyan heritage but being a good person, even tho his race are evil conquerors
Hopefully Din Grogu gets his own version of a Cortosis Staff. They are laced with cortosis ore, a mineral naturally resistant to a lightsaber. It would be cool to see him do flips against Sith and hitting them with a force baton.
Possibly the Dark saber would come back into the picture. What if Yoda was secretly carrying around a defensive staff/cane.
Doug declaring Vince Vaughn as the future threat to the galaxy made my day!🥰
❤Love when ScreenCrush covers anything Star Wars!!! Keep it coming guys.❤
It would be so funny to see Grogu as an adult, being a super badass force using Mandalorian but he’s still a slave to his appetite! Just distracted when he sees a frog etc
Hope he doesn't get a belly!
Wait how does Doug know what blue is? I thought he was colour blind?
It has already been confirmed, at least by their ships, that there were Mandalorian ships in The Battle of Exegol. At least two Guantlet starfighters can be seen when zooming into some of the frames. On top of this, we see the Ghost in the shots, and it has also been confirmed that there were at least two N1 Naboo star fights present in that battle.
Without seeing who were piloting the ships, we really can not tell though.
I love the idea that they chose Grogu as the next big character because its not a real person so they don't have to pay it anything
people pay THEM for the grogu merch - the little dude's a literal money printer. no huge fees, and all the profit
@@slack__ Muppet Star Wars trilogy lets go
"Oh, good! There's some distance between that train wreck" 🤣🤣🤣 Doug, you savage!😂
Man this is probably my favorite channel i rarely miss an episode.
Wow that's a lot to take in. Will have to see how they go from here. Thanks guys👍🏼.
5:50 I Understood That Reference 💙😂😂😂💯
Doug trying to sing BLUE was the best part of this video 😂
I just love these informed speculations! Yes! 🙌
I don't think Grogu will be in the new Rey film, even if chronologically it makes sense. I think they will keep them separate. That said, having a fight against a group from another galaxy makes way more sense than the Sith or Imperial remnants.
Thanks for the video.
Great ideas!
The Star Wars producers *would* be telling the screenwriters to take down notes from your video, but... as of the time I'm typing this out, they're all on strike.
I've been hoping to see the vong on the big screen ever since I read the comics
*DAMN I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!*
*THIS GUY and his DOG need to be writing for Star Wars!*
Great job, Ryan. Please tell me you are writing a screen play for all of what you just described??
The only problem with this is Grogu is going to know a lot of Jedi. Ezra, Ahsoka, Jacen, Luke, and Jude Law’s character that’s not including Cal.
Its interesting to hear these hopeful / connected theories. Some of this could make it into Episode 10 ... or maybe somehow Palpitine will return.
Or yet another [*yawn*] Death Star
Great video
Thank you!
Been talking about the Vong for so long. Force impervious!
I hope you are correct. That would be exciting!. Thanks!
Definitely like your plot idea
For all we know the Mandalorians could be fighting in a side war against the First Order that kept them from being able to help The Resistance. Also, The Mandalorians could have warned the New Republic of the First Order and they refused to believe and thus the Mandalorians separated themselves from the New Republic. There are many paths this could be taken.
I like that idea, and the First Order had infiltrated the Centrist part of the New Republic so wouldn't be hard to believe that they were able to make the rest of the New Republic not believe the Mandalorians
lol love Doug singing
So I know he wasn’t actually there because he wasn’t created yet. But wouldn’t it be cool if Din Djarin/ Din Grogu were at the final battle with Palpatine’s fleet? I like the idea of that custom N1 shooting around helping to defeat the empire.
S1 of the Mandalorian was airing/finished airing around the time Rise of Skywalker came out.
Grogu was there. He is going to be in a spaceship thatv hen we look back was front and center in that shot. I guarantee it
@@Eagledelta3 was it??? Covid really screwed up my sense of time for the last few years. If that’s the case then even better. Grogulorians helping in taking down Palps.
Great cross-cutting there!
Your fanfic ideas are spot on I hope it comes true
will you do a breakdown of the jedi survivor story?
the robin clip got me 😂
Ryan your a genius love your theory it so entertaining great video as always
I’d love to see Grogu in this new trilogy!
omg i was jus wondering this at the end of mandalorian
I love your theories! I'd see that trilogy for sure!
I think all the actors were fine. I think the cinematography was great as was the FX. I think the directing was fine, too. It was the writing, and allowing the directors to write and/or change the scipts, that was the issue.
Bingo
Honestly, it was really just the end that made the whole thing suck. There were choices in Last Jedi and Force Awakens that I didn't love, but if they had stuck the landing and wrapped up the plotlines well then those wouldn't have been such a big deal. Like having Luke be disillusioned and die/become one with the Force - he could have returned as a Force ghost and given a lot of guidance to Rey like Obi-Wan did for him, they shouldn't have brought Palpatine back like that because it makes Vader's sacrifice be for nothing...
Now that’s a story I’d watch.
Yes, I agree.
I think they could do all three in separate trilogies.
But, after hearing you explained it with all details I already imagined in my mind how the movie will be, so I don't need to watch it now.
The power of imagination.
I was waiting for someone to pull out the Yuuzhan Vong! It's the inevitable step in order to move Star Wars forward! It's definitely a plausible theory... The Mandolin/ Jedi confrontation deserves to be on screen just as long as it's a solid arc and not drawn out in order to unite against the Yuuzhan Vong.
Something I hope Disney/Lucasfilm do is spread these movies out more and the first one of them should come out in 2027 for the 50th anniversary.
"Some how Rey came back."
"NOoooooooooooo!"
THANKS for this!!!! *PHEW-PHEW!* :)
Would cry for joy if I get a little live action vong in my lifetime
I forget the dog isn’t actually talking sometimes
I’d love to see Grogu show up as a force using Mandalorian!!! So if that makes a “Fandalorian”, so be it!!!! 😎
I like the idea of everyday adventures and foes vs huge galaxy stakes over an over. If the world is always about to end it can feel too much like the excesses of comics. It’s cool to just see a culture unfold. Out of your picks I like the Grisk or another unknown region antagonist. Frontier type stuff inspired by Kurosawa.
I read a few of the Yuuzhan Vong book series years ago. These guys were formidable. Some of the main characters were Han and Leia's kids who were training under Luke (if i remember correctly). They'd be a great threat to the galaxy.
The new jedi order is an awesome read...some really good books abd it set up Jacen's fall nicely....
Just gives us a thrawn trilogy already.
Great episode. You need to go be a writer for Disney! Love the ideas here
It's all well and good, but, when do we see a live action version of bendu?
There is another force, sensitive, long lived warrior that you were forgetting about that could be essential to your theory. Gungi
Makes sense.
Grogu isn't really a character that can be used in that way. In season 3 they sacrificed the potential of him as a character to keep the merchandise sales going. He is cute and adorable. He makes baby noises. Development of a greater personality is in opposition to sale of toys. They can't introduce him in a film as a character who can talk because the audience will reject that. That's not the Grogu they know. It's kind of the same as the introduction of Luke in The Last Jedi, but with a totally different character. What they would need to do is spend several seasons evolving him to the point he could be used in a film. They are super risk averse though and they won't do that.
Great video, but I petition for Doug to hum the Blue song at the end of your next video 😊
Episode IX.V: The Retcon of the Jedi
Always loved your theories, I just hope they listen to you (the people behind the new trilogy) because your storytelling is a whole lot better than the sequel trilogy.
Are we just not talking about Thrawn having fast forward and rewind buttons on his shirt collar?
I think another villain option is the Lost Tribe of the Sith from the legends books series Fate of the Jedi. Also Abeloth from same series that would tie back to the Mortis trilogy from the clone wars
Abeloth was freaking creepy and hay the father, brother, and sister ar canon...
If its the Grisks they’re up
For a serious challenge as they have been known in legends to “take over” others minds and have them do their will with minimal numbers.
The mandalorian season 7 and 8 has to be a significant time jump. I need to see grogu grow up, using a different sized puppet. 😅
Actually, Ahsoka did identify herself as a Jedi after leaving the order. The final season of Clone Wars, when she's captured by the Pykes.
It’s certainly possible the Mandalorians were fighting the First Order on their own, and we just didn’t see that aspect of the story. Could be great fodder for future books, comics, or video games
Love you, Doug. Puphew🎉
He better show up in a Mandalorian armour 😂😍😍😍
Could someone at Disney, like, *PLEASE* make your version!
If this isn't the plan for the Rey trilogy, I hope they watch this and take it. And hopefully Ryan (and any others involved here) get credit
They should retcon the sequels and redo it with Luke’s character staying true to the story and Rey being innovated as his padawan😤
@@HTBsnowgoon 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This would be a great story but Grogu’s story is still going on on Disney plus so I doubt that he’ll appear in any movie until after the Feloni movie.
On the Rise of Skywalker I am sure I saw a fang fighter on the last fight
Battles are not all fought in one place only
Id love to see the Yuuzhan Vong in live action I read all those books and they were great
I think the mandolorians and the new jedi order team up against the Vong would be awesome and and they’re force resistant too in legend love the vong
Right now... I just cant imagine Grogu speaking! Im not ready for him to grow up yet I guess. 😄
Let's add the idea that the filoni culmination movie will place Ezra Bridger on Mandalore with Din Grogu training foundlings because of the Sabine connection
Get this man a show
Can you and Den of Nerds just make your own combined Fan Fiction movies? We are all here for it.
Grogu gonna be all Baby Herman - smoking and cursing with a NY accent
A other question will tanaloor appear in the film
I really hope the Rey movie is good those characters had a ton of potential, and i want to see them done right.
Screen crush I got a question in the Asoka trailer there was a red Lucasfilm screen does that mean mauls coming back please do a video about this
I swear this dog carries the show
The issue is they are doing retcons of retcons that are based on other retcons. There could be a story to be told if they start from almost scratch like the Rogue One movie. Just build a good story that happens to take place in this universe and let it rip. But based on what we have seen, I will watch it on streaming.
My theories:
- Mando4: Thrawn returns Heir to the Empire style and is a major threat to the New Republic. Ends with a Grysk cliffhanger.
- Mandoverse Movie: The Grysk are the major antagonists to the story. The Mandoverse groups have to all work together to defeat the new threat. Bo Katan & Mandalorians, Din & Grogu, Boba & Fennec, Ahsoka & the Ghost crew, plus Thrawn vs Grysk. Ending with Thrawn returning to Chiss space once the threat has been eliminated.
I love the idea of Rey meeting a Mando-Grogu that you outline! But the Thrawn storyline from the Mandoverse would still be something like 30 years before the events of the movie, and Thrawn would be well into his 80's or something like that.
Dave leaned back in his new office chair, enjoying the satisfying lack of creaking his older chair insisted upon with every light motion. He thought to himself, “My god. This is genius.” as he makes a long sweeping motion across his desk brushing away the last 2 years worth of Star Wars story planning. He cussed to himself as he opened a new tab to navigate to Twitter, and he typed “Ryan Arey” into the search bar…
I came to this channel for the excellent commentary, I stayed for Doug. Doug! Doug! Doug!
Yes. Yes. Yes. We need the Vong!
I like this idea
Yes
This starts with well explained well informed ideas like yeah, Grogu MIGHT be in the movie, quite possible, even likely, but quickly goes off the rails into totally speculative fan fiction like assuming what a Rey and Grogu conversation would be like we have any idea what their situations or personalities would be 15 years in the future. IF Grogu is even in the movie and IF they do a new trilogy with Rey and IF Grogu is still on Mandalore and IF etc etc. It's fun to do but the whole second half of this vid was more fan fiction than fan theory, like a list of things they want to happen.
The end was more relevant tho, I do think the Grist or the Yuzon Vong could come into iteither in a sequel trilogy but maybe even as early as the Ahsoka series. I guess time will tell x
We definitely need a new threat