Thank you Ray for this review! It really made my day. YOU being impressed with that shotgun is all I really need to know. That thing running flawlessly right out of the box is truly awesome. Thanks for bringing us along!
Was hoping to see you go over this one. It is very interesting to me for sure. Glad to see it works well for you. It's on my short list!! Hope these prove to work well long term. I may just have to give it a try and see how it goes!! Have a great week!
Great Review and a sweet shotgun for sure. But AR10 lower, hyper fire trigger and 12 gauge upper……… I just don’t see a $4k gun but supply and demand plus having Ray review it will make people want it. Thank you sir for the content
You know I run the Dissident but these Genesis shotguns have me very very interested. I like that they have addressed the left side charging handle. I’d like to see a production 20-round magazine as well. But it would be very nice for my AR controls and shotgun controls to be the same
Like you have had a lot of issues with box fed shot guns. For me a big issue with that gun is not being able to change choke tubes through the muzzle break like the Dissident Arms set up
Looks like a better shotgun than that Turkish shotty that gave you problems during a match a few years ago. We haven’t heard from Rick for a couple of months. Is he well?
Sure, as long as you dont actually use it, or mind sending your dollars to the CCP. NOPE! Most of us with jobs will buy American or products made by a nation that doeant openly seek to destroy us. Educate yourself.
@@entropicdoom8018 Why be cheap? Why support chinese companies? If you actually have this shotgun, why be a cheap shit and buy a chinese made POS after dropping that much money on the gun?
Now, if the Turks can produce something like this for the American market for like 500.00. I mean, I can go out and buy the best balanced over and under beretta for way less that is a work of art. I know apples and oranges, but you are not going to convince me that that thing is worth that kind of money.
Ray, as picky as ypu are about gear; especially higher end gear, its disappointing to see youve also chosen the route of prmoting lesser quality chinese made optics.
Do you shoot 3 gun and have you priced a dissident kl12? If you shoot open in 3 gun, that price tag is worth it for a box gun that runs 100% of the time.
I’m glad u passed 100k hopefully 1mill comes soon cuz you and ur videos are 💯% better then most of big gun channels.
Thank you Ray for this review! It really made my day. YOU being impressed with that shotgun is all I really need to know. That thing running flawlessly right out of the box is truly awesome. Thanks for bringing us along!
Thank You Sir! This Genesis 12 is great! I think the reliability loading even deformed ammo shows the developers hard work/responsiveness. 👍🇺🇸
Thank you for being the only one to review the 18.4" since everyone else want to bearback eachother and only showcase the 7 and 10.5 sbm sbr
I’ve been looking hard at the Dissident but after you did this video I’m getting interested in this one as well. Thanks Ray for the review
That a good looking shotgun. Thanks for a awesome video Ray. Have a good week sir
Thanks Joaquin! I hope you are doing well. Thank you for watching.
Another Outstanding Review, Ray!
Awesome video Ray, thanks for the mention 😊
Got one on order, really excited for it.
Was hoping to see you go over this one. It is very interesting to me for sure. Glad to see it works well for you. It's on my short list!! Hope these prove to work well long term. I may just have to give it a try and see how it goes!! Have a great week!
Another awesome video!
mine is on is way...😁
Impressive design!
ray is the man. sick channel
The fire out the chamber looked wild
I like that it’s very sleek and not bulky like a lot of mag fed autos
Ray you make me broke because every video you do the review I’m going to buy it 😂😂😂❤❤🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
3 gun model supposed to ship in a few weeks can’t wait. But they switching production models to barrel porting vs that muzzle brake
Great Review and a sweet shotgun for sure. But AR10 lower, hyper fire trigger and 12 gauge upper……… I just don’t see a $4k gun but supply and demand plus having Ray review it will make people want it. Thank you sir for the content
So worth it. Absolutely flawless
Very Nice Indeed ! 👍
Thanks
Takes me back to being 13 shooting my buddies Saiga 12. We would cut down trees or randomly load slugs into a bird shot mag. Great times.
I'd like to know if a Phase 5 bolt release will fit.
N8ce one 👍🍻
You gotta link to those magazine couplers?
First Comment?! Hell yeah Ray!
I have the 10" model, can you give me info on the fella you work with for the larger capacity mags?
You will have to message him on Instagram.
Pyro1.3Gun his name is Ron
@@XRING thank you
You unscrew the handles. Loctite red but it will move. I took mine apart for cerakote.
Thanks ronsukro. I found that out after talking to some guys about theirs.
As a tacops shooter, are you not more interested in the new modified division?
You know I run the Dissident but these Genesis shotguns have me very very interested. I like that they have addressed the left side charging handle. I’d like to see a production 20-round magazine as well. But it would be very nice for my AR controls and shotgun controls to be the same
Drums are coming soon. ❤
Drums will only be 15rds. I make the couplers for the 15 and 20 round mags
Hey I would love to get my hands on some of those couplers for the mags where can I go to get them from you?
I don't think I will ever be in a situation where I will need to run it without shouldering it. So absolutely give it a pass on the malfunction.
Does it have removable chokes?
Yes, currently they run Briley thinwall chokes.
Freakn awesome! I'm the market for a semi auto shotgun. Was looking at the 1301 LTT. So, this or the LTT?
The 1301 is really nice as well. Depends on what you are doing with the shotgun.
Gen 12 all day. Truly an amazing firearm. Especially the sbr model
Like you have had a lot of issues with box fed shot guns. For me a big issue with that gun is not being able to change choke tubes through the muzzle break like the Dissident Arms set up
You can change it through the brake. It uses the same tool as the Dissident. The one I have was just too short since this is a pre production model.
I believe the 18" version you can change chokes
They are making a 3 gun version, you have to call to them order it. It will have the removable chokes which are currently Briley thin wall.
Looks like a better shotgun than that Turkish shotty that gave you problems during a match a few years ago.
We haven’t heard from Rick for a couple of months. Is he well?
That Holosun will be fine.
I do like me a shotgun.
I hope so. It’s a perfect size for this shotgun.
@@XRING I have the 510c elite on my GEN12 10.5", will see if it can handle the recoil of the shorter version
Sure, as long as you dont actually use it, or mind sending your dollars to the CCP.
NOPE!
Most of us with jobs will buy American or products made by a nation that doeant openly seek to destroy us.
Educate yourself.
@@entropicdoom8018
Why be cheap?
Why support chinese companies?
If you actually have this shotgun, why be a cheap shit and buy a chinese made POS after dropping that much money on the gun?
Still no big stick 20 rd mags?
You can make 15 and 20 rd mags with my couplers.
Where are thes couplers!?
You have to go to Instagram and look for pyro1.3gun his name is Ron. You will have to message him on IG.
i bet I can go and shoot my VR 80 and it will perform the same . As matter a fact , challenge accepted :)
Let’s do it! Get to the choppa! 😁
@X-RING you no I will ,just need to get my shotgun out of "jail"
Will it run 3"?
Yes, mags will accept most 3” shells
That's quite a price tag
Hopefully for almost 4k they decide to stake their castle nuts before they ship the production models out.
They do...
@@zackw6042 the one Ray has in the video isn’t staked.
@@trevorhawkins8757 likely a reason why. I've shot several models and own the 10.5. All staked
This is a preproduction model and isn’t on their site at the moment. Probably the reason why. There are some other plans for this shotgun as well. 👍🏼
Now, if the Turks can produce something like this for the American market for like 500.00. I mean, I can go out and buy the best balanced over and under beretta for way less that is a work of art. I know apples and oranges, but you are not going to convince me that that thing is worth that kind of money.
The bad thing about all types of competitIve disciplines, the cost of the equipment makes it prohiBitive for the average shooter.
It is very expensive and can take serious commitment for sure.
What a slug gun !
It’s very impressive .
@@XRING I have a Winchester SX4 Extreme Defender and it rocks pretty well but I like the looks of the Genesis!
They want American made money for that thing, the cost is way to much for me!!! I’ll stick with what I have
cheaper box fed shotguns is usually turkish junks that i'd stay away to be honest
“Buy a shotgun!”-Joe Biden
Ray, as picky as ypu are about gear; especially higher end gear, its disappointing to see youve also chosen the route of prmoting lesser quality chinese made optics.
I don’t think I promoted them in any way shape or form. I merely bought something cheap at a gun store to see if it works. 👍🏼
3800 dollars? That's funny, and stupid at the same time! Hard pass but I'm sure fools will buy it
Do you shoot 3 gun and have you priced a dissident kl12? If you shoot open in 3 gun, that price tag is worth it for a box gun that runs 100% of the time.
Very true Scott!
We need a drum mag asap