I prefer the battery on the rear rack. Aesthetically it looks better and it's out of the way. I wish more e-bike makers would build it this way or at least give you the option
That's a great suggestion! I'm trying to mention the bike frame size, my height, and weight more often too. If you are ever curios about these details for older reviews, I list it all at the website for every bike and link from the description of each video ;)
Hi Luc! Glad you're enjoying the T10, does it look like this one? electricbikereview.com/gazelle/ultimate-t10-hmb/ very nice frame, but I feel you on the "no suspension" trade-off. Perhaps a suspension seat post would help?
If you have not already, try running the tires at the very low end of the recommended psi inflation range marked on the tire. I recently did that as was surprised how reducing my psi by 10 made for much better shock absortion.
Hey, just checked your website. You're telling me this bike with a total weight of 54.2lbs and a 250W mid drive motor on Turbo assist you can get a min range of 40 miles on this? How?? Great review by the way
Range is so subjective... I post a mix of what the manufacture suggests and what I believe based on my own experiences. I did not range test this particular bike, but I did ride for a couple of hours in Santa Cruz. I think the estimates are based on a 170lb rider, flat dry paved surface, no wind, tire pressure at the max recommended PSI. Bosch has a cool range calculator tool back at their site that could be helpful. You can enter all sorts of variables to get a really close estimate: www.bosch-ebike.com/us/service/range-assistant
Great question Peter! There are several reasons that the front disc brake rotor will generally be larger if the two are not the same size. To begin, I was not taught that the rear brake should be used more than the front. Perhaps this is misinformation perpetuated by a fear of "flipping over the handlebars" or the idea that one would slide out by locking the front brake vs. the rear. Most older bicycles used a coaster brake where you pedal backwards to stop the rear wheel. It was much easier to lock the wheel in this case, and skid or slide. As front brakes were introduced with linear pull brakes and v-brakes over the years, the idea of locking and sliding remained ingrained in the collective consciousness but was unfounded because braking could be more easily modulated. Okay, so now if we skip forward to what should be done to brake optimally, I was taught to brake evenly with the front and back wheel while avoiding skidding. As this is done, weight shifts forward and the front wheel and tire does more of the stopping than the rear... this is especially true if a suspension fork is involved. Using a larger rotor means that the braking surface has more time to cool and can provide a greater mechanical advantage over the wheel itself. For this reason, a larger rotor is often placed up front. Furthermore, the rear stays on most electric bicycles are crowded by kickstand mounts, motor sensors, fender mounts, and rack mounts. A smaller rotor and caliper leaves more room for this other hardware to be mounted. I hope these insights seem correct and are well received by you. I appreciate your regular comments and questions. Hope you've had a great weekend!
Lol, I hadn't thought of it that way. It does almost seem like the naming is partially for them vs. purely to help customers. Like, it helps them keep track of models but most customers probably don't know what it stands for ;)
I can see where you're coming from, especially if comparing to direct to consumer ebikes using hub motors. For a mid-drive powered bike with fenders, rack, lights, lots of dealers, two frame sizes, two colors, and a good two year warranty, it might be difficult to match at this price.
I prefer the battery on the rear rack. Aesthetically it looks better and it's out of the way. I wish more e-bike makers would build it this way or at least give you the option
Good review. I suggest you mention at the very beginning the kind of bike you are testing, e.g. Class 1 (like this one), etc.
That's a great suggestion! I'm trying to mention the bike frame size, my height, and weight more often too. If you are ever curios about these details for older reviews, I list it all at the website for every bike and link from the description of each video ;)
Thank you for your thorough explanation and description!
I have a Gazelle citizen T10 and absolutely love it. My only issue is that it has no suspension which is bad considering Seattle’s terrible streets 😕
Hi Luc! Glad you're enjoying the T10, does it look like this one? electricbikereview.com/gazelle/ultimate-t10-hmb/ very nice frame, but I feel you on the "no suspension" trade-off. Perhaps a suspension seat post would help?
If you have not already, try running the tires at the very low end of the recommended psi inflation range marked on the tire. I recently did that as was surprised how reducing my psi by 10 made for much better shock absortion.
Hi!
Any comparison or thoughts between this and others in its price range?
Specifically thinking of Giant Lafree?
Thanks for this informative review!
Hey, just checked your website. You're telling me this bike with a total weight of 54.2lbs and a 250W mid drive motor on Turbo assist you can get a min range of 40 miles on this? How?? Great review by the way
Range is so subjective... I post a mix of what the manufacture suggests and what I believe based on my own experiences. I did not range test this particular bike, but I did ride for a couple of hours in Santa Cruz. I think the estimates are based on a 170lb rider, flat dry paved surface, no wind, tire pressure at the max recommended PSI. Bosch has a cool range calculator tool back at their site that could be helpful. You can enter all sorts of variables to get a really close estimate: www.bosch-ebike.com/us/service/range-assistant
Why do so many e bikes put a larger rotor up front when they tell you that you should use the rear brake more?
Great question Peter! There are several reasons that the front disc brake rotor will generally be larger if the two are not the same size. To begin, I was not taught that the rear brake should be used more than the front. Perhaps this is misinformation perpetuated by a fear of "flipping over the handlebars" or the idea that one would slide out by locking the front brake vs. the rear. Most older bicycles used a coaster brake where you pedal backwards to stop the rear wheel. It was much easier to lock the wheel in this case, and skid or slide. As front brakes were introduced with linear pull brakes and v-brakes over the years, the idea of locking and sliding remained ingrained in the collective consciousness but was unfounded because braking could be more easily modulated. Okay, so now if we skip forward to what should be done to brake optimally, I was taught to brake evenly with the front and back wheel while avoiding skidding. As this is done, weight shifts forward and the front wheel and tire does more of the stopping than the rear... this is especially true if a suspension fork is involved. Using a larger rotor means that the braking surface has more time to cool and can provide a greater mechanical advantage over the wheel itself. For this reason, a larger rotor is often placed up front. Furthermore, the rear stays on most electric bicycles are crowded by kickstand mounts, motor sensors, fender mounts, and rack mounts. A smaller rotor and caliper leaves more room for this other hardware to be mounted. I hope these insights seem correct and are well received by you. I appreciate your regular comments and questions. Hope you've had a great weekend!
Probably shouldn't have chosen initials that mean high maintenance bike. Kinda like bmw means big money wasted.
Lol, I hadn't thought of it that way. It does almost seem like the naming is partially for them vs. purely to help customers. Like, it helps them keep track of models but most customers probably don't know what it stands for ;)
This is not a cheap bike, it is above $2000 !!!!
Way too much for 250 watts
under powered over priced
I can see where you're coming from, especially if comparing to direct to consumer ebikes using hub motors. For a mid-drive powered bike with fenders, rack, lights, lots of dealers, two frame sizes, two colors, and a good two year warranty, it might be difficult to match at this price.