I Sold My BMW M3 and Bought a Lexus ISF For Under $20k
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Selling my BMW M3 was not an easy decision, but I've ALWAYS wanted to see what a Lexus ISF was like to live with. There are certainly things that the M3 does better than the ISF, but for my needs, the ISF is the right choice right now.
#isf #lexus #v8
The ISF is a great daily. Still enjoying my super high mile ISF trouble-free. She's currently at 353k miles!
Man what! That’s insane. Do you have an Instagram or form of social media?
oh it's you and your famous car. please drop your IG, i bought an ISF inspired by you lol
@@tcmcclure2323 no IG for the car! just personal IG account
@@ogmechsftw no IG for the car! just personal IG account
coolchu001 any way I can get a video of you doing a full throttle pull while recording the gauge cluster with odometer shown? Just to show a very high mileage isf still holding her own ?
285K miles and mine runs like a Rolex! LEXUS RELIABILITY!!!!
I had an '11 ISF for a few years. Loved it and was a great car and then decided to stay in the F family and upgraded to RCF with carbon fiber/torque vectoring differential (2016) for $55K with 5000 miles on it. Both are great cars and ISFs are incredible value for the money now. Have had my RCF for almost 2 years now. Best decision ever. Lexus quality is unbeatable. Would keep it for a long time. It feels like a an evolution of the ISF. More matured and everything kicked up a few notches. A lot more power (472 HP), sharper chassis/suspension with torque vectoring differential and more luxury/nicer interior. Nearly 7500 rpm revs limit. Have a full exhaust and it really howls. Exterior is subjective, but I love my bright Orange color RCF with the carbon fiber roof.
problem is you don't want to used power all the time since the fuel and the part that keep need changing...
ISF is still faster which is funny to me
@@SkywalkerOGK No it is not with all things equal. I owned both so i know. I love both cars. 1/2 mile trap speed for me was 140 mph for the RCF and 133 mph for the ISF with all thngs being equal. An RCF with exhaust only makes 415 - 420 whp. An ISF with full exhaust is around 370 whp.. An FBO ISF is around 420 whp while RCF with FBO and tune can get as high as 460 whp. RCF is heavier, but the RCF has the better power to weight ratio of 8.4 lbs/HP vs 9.0 lbs/HP and a broader powerband because of the higher rev limit. 0-60 mph is very close as it comes down to traction, but after 80+ mph, RCF takes over with everything being equal. RCF was tested only a couple of seconds slower than the M4 recently. I love both cars, but as I said it is an incremental improvement over the ISF. Not a big leap, but everything being 5 - 10% better.
Have you driven the one without the TVD? Far superior enthusiasts driving car, try it if you haven’t
campkira the fuel and what?
Landcruiser and now an ISF? This is the channel of my dreams, haha. Congrats Kurt.
I feel like lexus is like a wine. More it age the more soul it has.
That is exactly how it is
Both my ls430s agree
@@joeschmo4170430 MENTIONED RAHH
I think you’ll find yourself keeping the ISF around longer than expected due to the reliability similar to your 100 series. The 2012+ offered a bit more desired bits but definitely smart you went with a 2010.
I was actually considering replacing the suspension with the 2012+ setup. It looks like you can get all 4 shocks/struts with springs and bump stops for like $1300. Debating if I go that route or just put Ohlins on the car..
Ohlins from FIGs engineering will be your best option. I’m sure you’re aware, but another known issue is cracked manifolds. Most owners, affected by it or not, upgrade to PPE headers. Supplement headers with exhaust, intake elbow/drop-in filter and tune the ISF is a 400+WHP platform. Really looking forward to your progress!
@@EatSleepDrive check out RRRacing coil overs.
@@TopRawMen love my rr- racing Penske coilovers on my gs f!
@@blakeparker6378 PPE headers awaken the beast inside.
I was in market for a E92 for the longest time but then ended up with my 2012 ISF and couldn't be happier
Do they not come in manual?
No, only an 8 speed automatic
Gabriel Bello the reason I got the m3 instead. No manual, meant I wouldn’t even consider the isf.
Cool car tho, cool exhaust or what not.
LegendInThaMakin manual swap?
Fee so much easier to just buy a manual m3, it’s simply a better drivers car. The steering feel, high revving v8, looks better, more mod options, the list goes on.
The isf is extremely overrated imo.
The IS F is one of my favorites. It sounds way better than the current M3.
I've had my 2013 ISF for almost 6 years now. It still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. I'll probably drive it into the ground lol
Lexus builds quality vehicles. My uncle still has his 92 Lexus LS. The dealer is shocked at the quality and how well it has held up for all that time.
5:43 every IS owner has said this atleast 7,000 times in their lifetime
Back in 2012 I was lucky enough to attend a multi-brand special event for work, and was driven in an ISF by a professional driver at full speed, 167 mph, in a speed bowl (Millbrook, UK). It felt so solid and stable. One of my best automotive experiences.
I just bought my 08 isf in February this year, we have the same mileage and color! I can’t wait to see what you have in store for it! I came from a 15 STI and I love the F so much more, money well spent.
Fellow ISF owner and Cincinnati resident. Excited to hear your take on the new car!
Cheers man! We should meet at cars and coffee sometime. Maybe Tabogo tomorrow?
@@EatSleepDrive I won't be able to make it tomorrow but would like to meet up another time. I purchased my ISF with an Injen Cold Air Intake, and it had the resonators and mufflers removed. It could give you a point of reference while picking out an exhaust system.
I definitely have to hear this thing before I pull the trigger on an exhaust
Also a fellow ISF owner in Cincinnati. There's a group of 4 or 5 of us roaming around. I've had mine for 6 years and is full bolt ons, tuned, suspension, etc. as it is both my daily and track car. Would love to meet up sometime.
Here is our Ohio F owner FB page
facebook.com/groups/223344612368805/?ref=share
Lexus ISF May not be faster but it’s rarer. It breaks people’s necks asking what car that is.
To me, after what Lexus did with the LFA(best car in last decade), the ISF is their second best car, and they are rare man...
Love me some LFA
@Vinny Booboo personally, I don't like the LC500 design
Hopefully they’ll make the LC F 🤷♂️
I think it looks bloody spectacular.
I've owned my 08 IS-F for over 11 years now as a daily driver. Best daily driver. Only modification I made to mine was the 2010 OEM Differential. It's not the quickest/fastest car anymore, but it won't let you down.
With a PPE header and intake and exhaust, you can still be one of the fastest cars around at your local car meet! As heavy as they are I’m still shocked to this day (owned a Is250, moved on to 350, moving on to ISF right now) I am really impressed how fast these cars are!! Even in my Is350 I am faster (in a straight line) than 85% of the cars at the meets in my region!
Nice car bro, I've actually never seen this car in person. It's quite special.
That's definitely part of the reason I love them. Virtually never see them in the wild.
Ive seen 4 in my lifetime lol and i live in los Angeles. Pretty rare.
There's a flap on the intake that opens up above 4k rpm so that's the noise you're hearing. Also, its been tried and tested that the best intake for this is the stock one along with an aftermarket filter.
I really like the ISF, looking forward to seeing your journey with it! Also a big fan of your videos where you show the trip going to get your new car, very fun to watch! Great video as usual 😊
Awesome, thank you!
You must be glad the Ohio finally dropped the requirement for having front license plates. I took mine off the day I learned it went into affect.
Finally! TBH I've never put them on, and have a few tickets to show for it....
Them Toyotas last forever. Very reliable.
The 2UR engine is completely different that was developed for the RCF in 2015 with 472 HP. There is a press release with all of the details of differences. Only the bottom end is the same. Everything else is different. It is a high-revving concept in the RCF with a 7300 rpm redline (7450 rpm rev cut off) and then it was later on put in the LC500 and GSF. It revs more freely and quickly due to lighter internals RCF got another updated version with 472 HP and 395 ft-lbs in 2020 with some minor intake tweaks. LC500 still uses the older 471 HP.
LC500 revs lower. The cut off is at 7100 rpm for the LC500 for some odd reason. Maybe, because it is a cruiser.
Smart man. Once you own a Toyota (Lexus), you'll realize how easy it is to own. Enjoy!
Was going to get a Lexus ISF 2017, but changed direction and bought a Tesla Model3. Have not seen a gas station or maintenance in almost 2 years. Every single person that rides with me or drives it has the biggest smile after. Best car I have ever had in 30 years.
I drove my friends 2011 ISF, it was so much fun! A lot more torque compare to my E92 M3.
I did this exact same thing. Sold my e92 M3 and bought a 2010 Lexus ISF. The 2012 has the better suspension that makes it much faster around a track. I swapped out the suspension with the Greddys made by KW. The 2010 suspension is just too harsh for me. I prefer the steering in the 2012+, so I bought the computer new from a 2012, funny I never bothered putting it in. I simply got tired of taking the e92 to the shop, it never left me on the side of the road, but I was constantly taking it into the shop for expensive little things breaking.
I'd like to put the updated 2012 suspension on this car. Although, I may just go Ohlins..
@@EatSleepDrive HKS are half the price and rather good.
Welcome to tried and true Lexus ownership. I have a 08 GS350 at 165K miles and its a rock solid car. People may hate on Lexus/Toyota but they stick to what there good at. Will surely been looking at this or maybe the GS-F.
Lol I don’t know anyone that hates Toyota/Lexus
Hi nice car fairly common problem on the ls460 and these engines. I work on them at a Lexus dealership. Easy way to also tell is to remove throttle body. Shine a light down. No pink means ur good. Very nice cars too bad we dont see them that often
My 300K AWD IS 250 runs great and keeps up with new BMW 3 series
134k miles is nothing for a Lexus. Theres is a ISF with +340k miles on some lexus forum. Lexus built quality is exceptional
I have a almost 300K my AWD IS 250, it’s a 2006 model
The IS-F is a wonderful car. Just wish it was available with a manual transmission.
I think you'll like the ISF. "cought" RRacing supercharge it "cough" I've actually been lookin to get an LC500 that 5.0 just so good. Hopefully I can get one in next 2-4 years.
You should still bio scope the engine to check for the valley plate leaks and get it on a lift and check near the headers for
for coolant. Sometimes you can't visually see it from the top.
This^ if its not leaking down the back and on the trans its impossible to see without a borescope. Which is exactly how mine was
I had Lexus IS 250 White Pearl and now i have Scirocco 2.0 tsi in viper green color with 19" black wheels. Both cars are awesome
Nice video, after 8 years of ownership, I upgraded from a '06 IS350 to a '16 IS350 FSport. Can't wait to see what's on the horizon for your ISF, because I'll live vicariously through you. I can never own one, because 16 year old me will take over and I'll get tickets galore. :-D
How are you liking your ‘16 IS350 FSport? I’m seriously considering one and I would appreciate any input / thoughts...
Welcome! Cross shopped the M3 and the ISF for a daily 4 yrs ago. At my price point I just couldn’t bring myself to buy an M3 (with potential bearing issues) over a Toyota/Lexus reliability. Decided on the ISF and glad I did. I love it. I generally don’t keep cars this long and I don’t see myself selling it anytime soon. Good luck with it!
Lexus is a car you buy used. Period. You don't buy them for their tech, that's what the aftermarket is for. Dude, that was an awesome find! A 2010 or 2011 is my dream car. An M3, although an awesome performance car, is riddled with issues, it's not even worth it to me as a weekend car. The ISF will give you years of trouble free ownership. Enjoy!
Good move, BMW, Mercedes. Audi, VW are nothing but problems with expensive repairs.
You couldn't be more wrong.
You're right about the repairs. Fun to drive, bmw atleast. I'd take a lexus over my beamer any day in terms of reliability.
Not that expensive when you work on your own car and know the right people to get parts. My 2001 e46 330ci 5 speed has 234,000 miles, and it’s running like a dream
I really like your video style on car purchases/ mini reviews
Thanks man! Means a lot.
man, I hope that you don't mind that I live vicariously through you with the freedom of these car purchases and sales.
I'll keep making the videos if y'all keep enjoying them
Daily 09 ISF here just tripped 130k miles. So far only threw in a new battery and had to get stock intake to pass SOCAL emissions! Great car you’ll enjoy!
I love those wheels,please keep them 👍
Congratulations great car,great engine ❤️
Yesss .. We are back to fast cars ... Thank you !! 😎 ... 👌 Love it
More to come!
I love when folks remove the bumper tips and take dual tipped mufflers and mount them slanted poking out of the factory cutouts.
congratz on the isf , have fun modifing it , theres a lot do change if you want to , you got a new subscriber here , really want to see what you going to do with it ,cheers from Portugal (europe)
I bought a ct200h last year with 140k miles. felt like new driving it. 150k miles on it and nothing has changed. feels so solid. I drove my friends much newer bmw 1 series and it felt like junk compared to the Lexus. it's leather seats felt like cheap leatherette.
For the past 5 month i been looking at Lexus ISF for sale on autotrader, and never could find even close to what u paid for the 2010 ISF (less than 20k). Amazing deal. The lowest Ive seen so far is 08 ISF for sale for $22,500. Congrats to u man, hope to see some mods on ur ISF to come in the near future!
Same here man! That's why I had to jump on this deal right after it was posted. Keep looking, I saw two other 08 on facebook just above $20k. Good luck on your search!
5 years into the ownership of the ISF and simply the best car I've driven. For a while I'd had a two-car garage, the F with a 997 Turbo S which was exceptional in its own ways. But when the time came to let go either one of them the keeper just had to be the Lexus. I just couldn't (and still can't) imagine parting with it. Such a well balanced car for its weight, and unlike the e92 M3 which is highly strung from factory, the car has a lot of potential left in the engine and with a mod as simple as a freer flowing exhaust it gets much faster. Reliability is just something that naturally comes with it.
The other positive point I noticed this is the Japan built version , the VIN starts with a J and a number that’s how you know. I worked at Lexus 14 yrs
I have a 2005 Land cruiser 100 series! I’ve had it since new, 283,000 miles on it right now never had an issue. I also have an 08 Lexus LS460 4.6 V8 and it was exactly as you described the German cars, so solid and doesn’t even break a sweat to go triple digits. I hope ONE DAY to get an ISF it’s my dream car. I’m currently in the market for a GS460 though, I am going to Sell My LS460 for a GS460, same engine I just prefer the GS styling.
You have me just barely beat! I have 260k on my LC, keep on going!
Congratulations! Your gonna absolute love your ISF!
Welcom to F ownership! I’ve had two, a 10’ and my current 11’ and love them both. Daily Drive the 11’ just under 50 miles/day. Best car I have ever had. Never gonna sell it. Besides the Valley plate leak, known issues are cracked exhaust header, water pump failure, difficult starter replacement and radiator cracking (plastic), and lower rear control arm bushing being soft causing early inner tire wear on the fronts. Last one easily fixed with Figs or RR-Racing LCA bushing replacement ($350). Once you are past all of these issues, it’s bulletproof. Also, don’t believe the lifetime trans fluid BS. Should do some fluid service every 40-60k. Join a FB F channel and you will get lots of help and answers to questions. Enjoy this car! It is amazing!
the starter replacement was definitely the most expensive repair so far no one would work on it except the dealer with a discount i still paid $2300. I think im starting to have suspension problems right now is that common? mine has a lil over 140k right now ive had it for 10 years so far its an “08” it has a clunking sound in the back just happened recently
Calvin Mad My 11’ is about to hit 70k. After I changed my LCA bushing with a Figs Engineering at 36k, the steering got amazingly better. I would think an 08’ with 140k, the suspension is starting to get worn. Most F buyers swap out the shocks for new coil-overs right away. I haven’t seen to many in our F forums talk about suspension issues. My car is all original except for the rear shocks. If you do your own service work, jack up the front end and check the play in the front tires (grab the sides of the tire and try to shake, then the top and bottom and see if there is any play). It the tires feel like there is no play, then hit the dealer or a trusted shop and have them check all the front suspension for wear. Your upper and lower control arm bushings might be starting to go.
@@mr.madden5333 complete ripoff for $2300.
When I get my first job imma get one of these, while they're still reasonably priced
Bro that’s the smartest thing you could have done
As the happy owner of a Lexus SC400, I couldn't be happier! I agree that these cars are underrated, compared to the German brands.
Welcome to the F family! For an exhaust that's really sweet and price effective, the XForce Varex is a really good option! Loud when you want to be heard, and quiet when you don't.
That’s a great deal for a rare IS! I recently bought a 2013 Lexus GS 350 Luxury package with 106k miles and had to drive it back 2.5 hrs home from Sacramento to San Jose. This vehicle has sport and sport + modes.. but I drive it in “Normal” Mode 😂 Lexus/Toyota is the way to go!! I posted a video of the 2013 GS on my channel if you’re interested!
Good purchase and Congrats! Welcome to LEXUS FAMILY 👌
The best and smart ever thing to do in life.
Good call on selling everything man. I sold all my cars again like in 2008. Gonna hold pat till winter at the least. If shit keeps hitting the fan winter of 2021 will se prices cheaper than 2010.
Awesome video!, and I’m sure you will love the ISF . Congratulations!
I’m about to sell my Is350 and buy an IS-F, was going to get an older M3 at first but then I realized how stupid it would’ve been because one really big part of a car for me is that it needs to start up every single morning without any issues. (At least most of the time) so now I’m putting my IS350 up for sell for this beast!!
The ISF is an outstanding piece of machinery. Vs the BMW you find it's more comfortable, eaiser to use, much lower maintenance, and that naturally aspirated V8 sounds amazing. remarkable sound system...and those rims look awesome.
I know the RCF is only a two door, but they've come down massively the last 1.5 years, and has the 467hp V8.
Smart choice my mans, welcome to the lex club ! 🙏
Nice. I'm on month four ownership of a 2012 IS 350. Absolutely lovely mountain driving pleasure while listening to V6 music.
Very happy for your purchase! It's a great car and I love my MY2011 ISF I have. I wanted to share some info for the valley plate leak. I recently repaired mine as it was leaking coolant. You can not see the leak from the top of the engine. The coolant leak is only visible when looking with a mirror or borescope towards the rear of the engine and can be seen leaking along the transmission case. The other tell tale sign of a coolant leak for this car would be topping off coolant. Since I have fixed my leak, no coolant has been needed even after thousands of miles. If you're topping off coolant every 2 weeks to 1 month, you may have a coolant leak. Unlike BMWs where they consume some coolant with normal usage, these vehicles do not.
A man with taste and common sense! Lexus make fantastic cars...the only one they don't make for some odd reason is a decent estate car. A rwd or awd GS Estate would do really well, especially with the 3.5 litre v6.
Wow a CZcams channel with smart car purchases, you don't see that very often!
Valley plate leak is recalled free repair by dealer 👍
Congrats on the awesome find my bro! I've been a Toyota/Lexus/Scion fan for several years now. Excited to see the upcoming mods. Enjoy the new ride.
Great video..I've had my isf for 4 years since trading in my M5 and couldn't be happier. I'm in Cincinnati too and have seen one other isf since picking mine up I'll be on the lookout for your new ride
Hey Chris...there are 4 or 5 of us roaming Cincinnati. Here is our Facebook group in case you want to connect with some local F owners and see some pics of some recent meets.
facebook.com/groups/223344612368805
First time I see your videos, and what a surprise, an ISF!!! Congrats. It's a beautiful car, I just love the ISF. Subscribed, hope to see more of it.
Congratulations man on your purchase I know you're not going to regret it I got mine I love it I actually wouldn't mind having another
Would love to hear your detailed experience in the driving dynamics of the ISF vs the M3. Power delivery, steering, feel, etc
Steering was upgraded in '11. I love mine, will never get rid of it. Hahaha
Damn, I was going to look at this car this weekend! Good snag
Nice. I went from a BMW 340i to a 2016 GS F and haven’t looked back. Lexus F cars are only going to go up in value.
Nice man congrats! I’m on my second ISF and contemplating a LX470 and have been watching your videos. ISF is an amazing daily and the community is extremely helpful on club lexus and the FB forums. First mod should be upgraded LCA bushing, maybe coilovers for the stiff 10 suspension, and a catback! Enjoy!
Whenever someone asks me "but how many miles does it have"? I say it doesn't matter. I give any 6 inline and v8 Lexus a 100,000 head start and it'll still last longer than others starting at zero new.
Good.. finally a guy who appreciate his wallet and quality
this has to be the best video title on CZcams. an ISF was always a dream car
Superb car my friend. I myself have a 2012 Lexus IS250 F Sport which I have owned for a year and a couple of months now. It has been extremely reliable. Only maintenance I have done so far is oil change, brake pads and rotors, and a K&N air filter. These cars are not too hard to work on so I do all this maintenance myself. Toyota seriously makes some of the best cars. I had a 1994 Camry LE and the beast is still running. I passed it on to my brother we just had to replace the thermostat and radiator. But yeah man you made a great choice!
Thank you!
Bruh! You purchase every car I have on my list. How do you sell so many great cars without regret? I dont have the heart to do it! You need to make another list of all your cars with rankings. I am looking for a fast family hauler and want a manual...
You can't own them all if you hang on to each one! At least I can't, I don't have the budget for it. It's hard sometimes to move on from cars, but I'm always looking forward to experiencing the next one. As for a manual family hauler, you can't go wrong with a F80 manual M3. That's probably what I would own if I had kids. Or maybe a Chevy SS, I love those too!
EatSleepDrive thanks! I always enjoy the videos and getting ideas for my channel.
From Knoxville TN! Sucks I missed you hard to meet up with anyone in the current times anyway lol. Hope you are well and the Isf is rippin.
I drove the ISF extensively when it was new and was left underwhelmed compared to my bimmers. I was not converted to Lexus. However, for most people and those who want more reliability than Europe can provide without getting a 911...it's a big win I can't argue against.
This was creepy, my name is also Kurt, I owned a 2011* (Not 2010) same color, Nebula Grey Pearl. Was also my daily. I loved it but sold it and have been keeping an eye out for a clean example lately as I want to get back into one. I always wanted a e90 M3 but I couldn't justify it given their reliability vs an ISF. Second induction opening is A+. You made a good choice!
Great minds think alike
Looks like a decent car. Probably as nice to drive as my son's two SC400's. However, like the SC400, they didn't make this with a manual. The Bimmer has a six-speed.
I like how you are taking the 1-1/2 parking spot to make sure a Honda Fit or perhaps Scion XD don't try to squeeze in and scratch your paint. Hopefully there are no Smart cars in your neighborhood....lol. Those will fit exactly are you stand parked.
With different car for DoorDash I feel I’m at work 🙁but DoorDash with ISF I’m cruising around 😊
Congratulations! I am also a previous Evo owner, I love my ISF I have owned it for 3 years now. I have some video from the track and with full exhaust if you want to get an idea of what it could sound like
Congratulations! This is also both a stealth car (in the colour you have) as well as a sleeper car. Very few cars get both done with such ease.
Lucky on the price. Everything in Oregon and Washington is $22-30k. Even dirty title cars selling for $22-25K. Which is crazy to me. Im in the market. Currently drive a '14 IS350 F Sport with 63K. Love this car. And looks better than the IS F. But I want the V8.
LEXUS YESSSS.i love the isf so cool and reliable for such a good price i think you will love it and keep it for a long time👌 be safe man.
I have an 06 LS430 which is butter, but I’d like to add an IS-F to my name one day..
I love you. I can’t believe you sold the m3 that’s a forever car but this is so special too
Just subbed, can’t wait to see the content with the isf, I miss mine. Although I love my rcf, my old isf will always remind me on my younger days
Great video as always! Somehow you always pick the perfect car to get the average car guy’s interest lol
Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed.
Your best purchase yet! You probably will keep this one for while
You can plug a vacuum line at the intake and keep the intake flap open. Exhaust Sounds better at all rpm ranges. Downside is no more vtec like feelings.