200 horse out of a 200 inch diesel 4 banger is good stuff man! trans is shifting nice and crisp too. also the jakes are the icing on the cake, seeing a passenger truck jake like that would make my day lmao
To go from a 6.4 to a proper, all-mechanical diesel that ISN'T a Cummins (nothing wrong with em, just that everybody does fumminses so meh) is just so nice, I can't imagine how nice it must be for you as the operator. Been following this rig for a while, gonna keep doing that. Cheers dude.
I worked in the bus and coach industry in Australia most of my life and the 70's, 80's were mainly jimmy power for anything not running around cities and they were super reliable and I loved the sound. I always remember one freeway section in a major city that has a one kilometer underground tunnel and the noise is so sweet. You not supposed to use the Jakes but I did once when it was near empty late at night and it was fantastic. We had 6V71's 8V71's 6V92T's 8V92T's two 6V53T's in small single axle vehicles. It was a great time.
They sure do sound great.:) I've only been through a couple tunnels and it's music.:) Growing up, all the city buses were Detroit powered as well. Happy times.:)
Back in the day I drove a 1955 GMC truck with the beautiful Detroit. I could pull the California “Grape Vine” before they called it the interstate 5. With a80 thousand pound load of fertilizer heading to LA pulling the grade in 3rd under. I loved that old truck. It had the Standard Oil colors with polished Aluminum wheels and twin stacks. Even the fuel tanks were polished out. All that beautiful red and white ,blue colors. Back then ya had to keep your rig up and clean. It was a looker and a lot of the guys who drove Reos, KWs, or Pete’s and even the old Internationals ,Frieghts loved the truck. . Even Ford had their Big Jobs . Wish I could have the opportunity to stick a Detroit in my Ford excursion. That would be my dream for this old guy. Thanks for your channel. Love the big Jimmy Detroits it’s the best sound and fair to operate.
I like that you run the 453 in a “clean tune” mode. No reason to be smoking out the people behind you, drawing unwanted attention, or wasting fuel! Hope to set the 453 I have up to run the same!
For acoustic sensation, the 8V92 is top of the class for me.........and only because of the unique throb that only a V8 can produce.......in tandem with all the high pitched harmonics that the 2 stroke breathing,blower and turbos produce. I went for a ride in a K100 with an 8V92TTA in 1987 at age 13, and it was like a religious experience. In smaller diesel engines, the 4-53 is very unique in its jake brake capability....if your doing serious towing or RV driving, it makes a big difference in mountain ranges.
Similar story for me as well.:) Introduced to Detroits when I was 5 with the 12V71 in a Hayes HDX, spent all me weekends and holidays riding in that truck.:) 8V92 when I was 8 in a Hayes/Peterbilt cabover. I think that's always stuck with me, so probably why I love the sound so much.:)
That's great. I have not seen it for a while here in south central pa a older ford from the 1990s. That truck has a 353 in it. I have been a Detroit 35 series fan for years. I have rebuilding (4) from the bear block up. Our equipment that we use on the railroad have 353 in them. I get all my parts from the Mennonite family here in south central pa. I know were a 353 with transmission that is setting in a sea box. I have been enjoying your video.
You have a great truck,with a great engine, love that Detroit sound ,can never get enough of it. It must sound awesome in the Coquihalla snow sheds at full throttle.
ran a 3-53 in a 1970 IHC . top speed 74 mph. drove it to work up to 4 hrs each way.slugs and jugs once i think $119 per hole. had a hotbox for the cold weather. Chevy trans with 35% overdrive ranger in front of the chevy 4 spd.
I'll be working on a 453t on a small crane next weekend for a friend to put it back to yard duty. I was hoping he wanted to scrap it and I would take the engine lol. I'll make a video on it
Always enjoy seeing your videos, and its nice to see an update about the good and bad of the conversion. Overall it looks like a nice clean job, and I love how there's no smoke. Nothing worse than a smoke belching vehicle of any type. My question is in regard to servicing the vehicle on the road, if need be. How accessible is everything? I know you did a lot of cab-off repairs, so I am just curious how serviceable everything is without the aid of a 2-post hoist?
Everything is serviceable on the road if need be. The last item to replace was the large 40MT starter with the newer and smaller 39MT unit. This was the last item that was going to be a bear to remove if it failed on the road. Now the smaller 39MT comes out the bottom without any fuss.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 Thats good! Always nice to have everything accessible if need be. Hey if you're ever down in WA, stop by my shop for a visit sometime. Pacific Diesel Service in Monroe, WA.
I would guess that running it on the highway as a daily driver wouldn't be too hard on it, and it should hopefully last hundreds of thousands of miles. I don't know how durable they are when taken care of because my experience with Detroits was limited to stationary services like pumps and generators, and employees that didn't take care of them. They ran 24/7 for days or weeks either idling for 8 hours at a time or running WOT, and as long as they had fuel they were almost never stopped for maintenance. In other words - they didn't last very long. I can't fault the engine for that. As mentioned in another video about a month ago, I do have a fondness for them because I was working with my dad at the time, and the 53 and 71 series were the diesels I grew up with. I remember they were easy to work on because I was installing sleeve kits at 18. My head almost exploded the first time we had to "turn one around" as the old guys called it. I was inexperienced at the time and we had a couple of 6-71's on a skid. One needed to run clockwise and the other counterclockwise. They were amazing for their time. Congratulations on a really fine truck.
Thanks, certainly enjoying it.:) One of the things I never mentioned that you touched on is ease of maintenance. One of the easiest engines I've ever worked on.:)
I’m new to your channel, please keep up the content. This is something I have been wanting to do to my project truck for a long time. Recently found a local shop that has a few DDs, as soon as I can save up enough for the purchase I’ll be jumping in. How does dropping a 6V92T in a 1986 GMC S15? Yes I’m going for the wild transformation, I do custom bodywork so believe me it will fit the style of my truck.
Anything's possible with a lot of fab work.:) I test fit a 6V71 into a 2008 F550 and it fit pretty nice.:) So with a body lift and fab work it should fit.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 even if it doesn’t fit perfectly I’m willing to cut to make it fit. Maybe one of these days I’ll do a video on my build. Imagine 1959 Impala taillights on an 86’ GMC S15, I’ll eventually get around to a video.
Awesome...!! I'm in the aircraft ground support equipment industry and we deal with those 2-stroke Detroits a lot. Especially 4-71 and 8V71. May I ask what sort of tune-ups/adjustments in order to have the engine accept vegetable oil? And how to switch between the 2 and not losing prime? Thank you for posting the nice work/video.
Thanks, I run a separate heated fuel tank for the veg and switch it over to veg at 140 degrees. I use two 3 port solenoids to switch from the diesel and veg tanks. No tuning is required to run the veg oil, just have to make sure the veg oil is dry and well filtered.:)
@@andrewsoemantri2691 You're welcome, if you're interested I have an entire playlist of alternative fuels. This covers my trucks fuel system, biodiesel and the collection and filtering of the veg oil. Here's the link: czcams.com/play/PLsdSpc8sBphCGE_wVa42EqgMBCnMF5Dmz.html
What do you think about the 12.7L series 60 4-stroke? That’s the engine I’m probably getting once I have saved up for my MCI D4500 RV project. I would love to get a 2-stroke, but like you said, no support if you break down and those buses are often in need of a lot of work outside the engine.
Oil has more BTU than diesel, so you have more power on oils. The only concern is water and crud which if you do your part before filling up no biggie.
No, I replaced them with an older Garrett T04E that I modified. It really likes the single turbo, so I'll leave it like this. It's dialed in really nice, so I'll leave it alone.:)
I used 13 sensors from the 6.4 and transplanted them to the 4-53T. I transferred all the accessories from the 6.4 over as well including the AC, dual alts, fan, power steering etc. They're run from a single serpentine belt using the 6.4 harmonic balancer.:)
I still plan to run them in the future, but will test them again in the Silver 4-53T for the Diamond T. I'll dyno test them as well as 9200's, 9B90's and 9E85's. I'll have a good indication on the power output and egt's etc.
I used to before I corrected the tensioner on the water pump belts.:) Used to go through those belts every 10,000 kms, but now that's fixed I they don't wear. The main belt is a serpentine, so last forever.:) New water pump as well, so don't carry a spare yet.:)
It would be fantastic.:) I've run the simulation with both the new 10R140 and also the ZF8 speed.:) To my knowledge no one makes a stand alone controller for the 10R140, but they do for the ZF8.:) I've also looked at the GearVendors behind the 5R110 and that would be very nice as well.:) Maybe in the future, but for now the 5R110 is running sweet, so will keep it running. I plan a ZF6 for a future swap, but that won't be for a few more years.:)
@@jeffersonmoctezuma3733 The Allison is one of the best trans on the road. I originally was going to run an Allison 1000, but after thinking on that for a while I decided to see if I could make the 5R110 work behind the Detroit.:) The 5R110 is a really nice trans and has been bullet proof for 60,000 miles so far. The shift points are similar on the Allison, but a better choice as it has double over drive.
I'm surprised you bring parts being a two joke they are very reliable. I definitely would bring a spare injector though. These engines used to be very reliable but nobody knows how to work on them anymore and they don't last unfortunately.
200 horse out of a 200 inch diesel 4 banger is good stuff man! trans is shifting nice and crisp too. also the jakes are the icing on the cake, seeing a passenger truck jake like that would make my day lmao
Thanks, the Jakes certainly work well.:)
To go from a 6.4 to a proper, all-mechanical diesel that ISN'T a Cummins (nothing wrong with em, just that everybody does fumminses so meh) is just so nice, I can't imagine how nice it must be for you as the operator. Been following this rig for a while, gonna keep doing that. Cheers dude.
Thanks, sure am having fun with it.:)
I worked in the bus and coach industry in Australia most of my life and the 70's, 80's were mainly jimmy power for anything not running around cities and they were super reliable and I loved the sound. I always remember one freeway section in a major city that has a one kilometer underground tunnel and the noise is so sweet. You not supposed to use the Jakes but I did once when it was near empty late at night and it was fantastic. We had 6V71's 8V71's 6V92T's 8V92T's two 6V53T's in small single axle vehicles. It was a great time.
They sure do sound great.:) I've only been through a couple tunnels and it's music.:) Growing up, all the city buses were Detroit powered as well. Happy times.:)
Back in the day I drove a 1955 GMC truck with the beautiful Detroit. I could pull the California “Grape Vine” before they called it the interstate 5. With a80 thousand pound load of fertilizer heading to LA pulling the grade in 3rd under. I loved that old truck. It had the Standard Oil colors with polished Aluminum wheels and twin stacks. Even the fuel tanks were polished out. All that beautiful red and white ,blue colors. Back then ya had to keep your rig up and clean. It was a looker and a lot of the guys who drove Reos, KWs, or Pete’s and even the old Internationals ,Frieghts loved the truck. . Even Ford had their Big Jobs . Wish I could have the opportunity to stick a Detroit in my Ford excursion. That would be my dream for this old guy. Thanks for your channel. Love the big Jimmy Detroits it’s the best sound and fair to operate.
Was that by chance a 950? Sweet rigs and there's a huge following today, they call them Fat Cabs.:) 6-71, 8V71 and some swapped in 8V92T's.:)
I like that you run the 453 in a “clean tune” mode. No reason to be smoking out the people behind you, drawing unwanted attention, or wasting fuel! Hope to set the 453 I have up to run the same!
For acoustic sensation, the 8V92 is top of the class for me.........and only because of the unique throb that only a V8 can produce.......in tandem with all the high pitched harmonics that the 2 stroke breathing,blower and turbos produce. I went for a ride in a K100 with an 8V92TTA in 1987 at age 13, and it was like a religious experience. In smaller diesel engines, the 4-53 is very unique in its jake brake capability....if your doing serious towing or RV driving, it makes a big difference in mountain ranges.
Similar story for me as well.:) Introduced to Detroits when I was 5 with the 12V71 in a Hayes HDX, spent all me weekends and holidays riding in that truck.:) 8V92 when I was 8 in a Hayes/Peterbilt cabover. I think that's always stuck with me, so probably why I love the sound so much.:)
Truck sounds great! Real Canadian ingenuity
Thanks, having a lot of fun with it.:)
Thanks for the update. Glad to see Jimmy is treating you well. I've loved following along with this project. It's an amazing truck. Well done!
Thanks.:)
This truck is why i subbed. Great work!
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Beats anything Ford ever put under the hood of there trucks.
True.:)
Excellent presentation. Thank you.
Thanks.:) And thanks for watching.:)
That's great. I have not seen it for a while here in south central pa a older ford from the 1990s. That truck has a 353 in it. I have been a Detroit 35 series fan for years. I have rebuilding (4) from the bear block up. Our equipment that we use on the railroad have 353 in them. I get all my parts from the Mennonite family here in south central pa. I know were a 353 with transmission that is setting in a sea box. I have been enjoying your video.
Thanks, they certainly have a unique sound.:)
Ein Traum dein Jimmy
Tolle kombination mit dem DD 4 53 T Motor
Möge er dir viel Freude und Km leisten
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Danke.:)
You have a great truck,with a great engine, love that Detroit sound ,can never get enough of it. It must sound awesome in the Coquihalla snow sheds at full throttle.
Thanks, it's sure a lot of fun.:) Yes sounds really nice running through the snow shed, tunnels and over passes.:)
I'm glad that she's taking good care of you now it's good to see the Detroit Diesel happy and the Pilot too. Wish you many miles of Joy
Thanks Joe.:)
ran a 3-53 in a 1970 IHC . top speed 74 mph. drove it to work up to 4 hrs each way.slugs and jugs once i think $119 per hole. had a hotbox for the cold weather. Chevy trans with 35% overdrive ranger in front of the chevy 4 spd.
Sounds like a nice setup.:)
I'll be working on a 453t on a small crane next weekend for a friend to put it back to yard duty. I was hoping he wanted to scrap it and I would take the engine lol. I'll make a video on it
Awesome, a video would be great.:)
I love it!, - always have.
It sounds great. I miss working on Detroits. So simple if you know them.
Thanks, very true.:) Has to be one of the simplest engines made.:)
Jake's combined with the 5r110 is a epic result
Thanks, took a lot of tuning to get the 5R110 to work with the Jakes.:)
Always enjoy seeing your videos, and its nice to see an update about the good and bad of the conversion. Overall it looks like a nice clean job, and I love how there's no smoke. Nothing worse than a smoke belching vehicle of any type. My question is in regard to servicing the vehicle on the road, if need be. How accessible is everything? I know you did a lot of cab-off repairs, so I am just curious how serviceable everything is without the aid of a 2-post hoist?
Everything is serviceable on the road if need be. The last item to replace was the large 40MT starter with the newer and smaller 39MT unit. This was the last item that was going to be a bear to remove if it failed on the road. Now the smaller 39MT comes out the bottom without any fuss.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 Thats good! Always nice to have everything accessible if need be. Hey if you're ever down in WA, stop by my shop for a visit sometime. Pacific Diesel Service in Monroe, WA.
I would guess that running it on the highway as a daily driver wouldn't be too hard on it, and it should hopefully last hundreds of thousands of miles. I don't know how durable they are when taken care of because my experience with Detroits was limited to stationary services like pumps and generators, and employees that didn't take care of them. They ran 24/7 for days or weeks either idling for 8 hours at a time or running WOT, and as long as they had fuel they were almost never stopped for maintenance. In other words - they didn't last very long. I can't fault the engine for that.
As mentioned in another video about a month ago, I do have a fondness for them because I was working with my dad at the time, and the 53 and 71 series were the diesels I grew up with. I remember they were easy to work on because I was installing sleeve kits at 18. My head almost exploded the first time we had to "turn one around" as the old guys called it. I was inexperienced at the time and we had a couple of 6-71's on a skid. One needed to run clockwise and the other counterclockwise. They were amazing for their time.
Congratulations on a really fine truck.
Thanks, certainly enjoying it.:) One of the things I never mentioned that you touched on is ease of maintenance. One of the easiest engines I've ever worked on.:)
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I’m new to your channel, please keep up the content. This is something I have been wanting to do to my project truck for a long time. Recently found a local shop that has a few DDs, as soon as I can save up enough for the purchase I’ll be jumping in. How does dropping a 6V92T in a 1986 GMC S15? Yes I’m going for the wild transformation, I do custom bodywork so believe me it will fit the style of my truck.
Anything's possible with a lot of fab work.:) I test fit a 6V71 into a 2008 F550 and it fit pretty nice.:) So with a body lift and fab work it should fit.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 even if it doesn’t fit perfectly I’m willing to cut to make it fit. Maybe one of these days I’ll do a video on my build. Imagine 1959 Impala taillights on an 86’ GMC S15, I’ll eventually get around to a video.
@@hashcash61 That would be awesome.:)
you may want to check engine weight.
@@repete2362 you are right they are very heavy but I think a Dana 60 and boxing the frame will work fine.
Awesome...!!
I'm in the aircraft ground support equipment industry and we deal with those 2-stroke Detroits a lot. Especially 4-71 and 8V71.
May I ask what sort of tune-ups/adjustments in order to have the engine accept vegetable oil?
And how to switch between the 2 and not losing prime?
Thank you for posting the nice work/video.
Thanks, I run a separate heated fuel tank for the veg and switch it over to veg at 140 degrees. I use two 3 port solenoids to switch from the diesel and veg tanks. No tuning is required to run the veg oil, just have to make sure the veg oil is dry and well filtered.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 thank you very much...
@@andrewsoemantri2691 You're welcome, if you're interested I have an entire playlist of alternative fuels. This covers my trucks fuel system, biodiesel and the collection and filtering of the veg oil. Here's the link: czcams.com/play/PLsdSpc8sBphCGE_wVa42EqgMBCnMF5Dmz.html
What do you think about the 12.7L series 60 4-stroke? That’s the engine I’m probably getting once I have saved up for my MCI D4500 RV project. I would love to get a 2-stroke, but like you said, no support if you break down and those buses are often in need of a lot of work outside the engine.
The Detroit 60 series is one of the best engines ever made.:) They're legendary among the trucking community.:)
Oil has more BTU than diesel, so you have more power on oils. The only concern is water and crud which if you do your part before filling up no biggie.
The veg oil works really nice, like you said just has to be dry and clean.:)
Are you still running compound turbos?
No, I replaced them with an older Garrett T04E that I modified. It really likes the single turbo, so I'll leave it like this. It's dialed in really nice, so I'll leave it alone.:)
Going forward, self determination and support will be the norm. Society is going down the drain, powder dry.
I used to run a drill rig in Texas with a 453. I love the sound! What transmission are you running?
Awesome.:) I'm running the factory Ford 5R110.:)
How was it getting your auxiliaries to work with jimmy like the A/C?
I used 13 sensors from the 6.4 and transplanted them to the 4-53T. I transferred all the accessories from the 6.4 over as well including the AC, dual alts, fan, power steering etc. They're run from a single serpentine belt using the 6.4 harmonic balancer.:)
Q: is the 4-53 a CCW rotation?
No, it's clockwise viewed from the front.:) They can be either rotation, but over the road are clock wise.:)
Will you ever go back to the 9G90s?
I still plan to run them in the future, but will test them again in the Silver 4-53T for the Diamond T. I'll dyno test them as well as 9200's, 9B90's and 9E85's. I'll have a good indication on the power output and egt's etc.
You don’t bring a spare belt or water pump on road trip?
I used to before I corrected the tensioner on the water pump belts.:) Used to go through those belts every 10,000 kms, but now that's fixed I they don't wear. The main belt is a serpentine, so last forever.:) New water pump as well, so don't carry a spare yet.:)
in the 1970s you could overhalu a 8v71 for 100 a hole
It’s around 400 a hole now not including any head work.:)
I know you aren’t made of money but I wonder how well that Detroit would do in front of a new 10 speed
It would be fantastic.:) I've run the simulation with both the new 10R140 and also the ZF8 speed.:) To my knowledge no one makes a stand alone controller for the 10R140, but they do for the ZF8.:) I've also looked at the GearVendors behind the 5R110 and that would be very nice as well.:) Maybe in the future, but for now the 5R110 is running sweet, so will keep it running. I plan a ZF6 for a future swap, but that won't be for a few more years.:)
What about the allision transmissions what u think about those?
@@jeffersonmoctezuma3733 The Allison is one of the best trans on the road. I originally was going to run an Allison 1000, but after thinking on that for a while I decided to see if I could make the 5R110 work behind the Detroit.:) The 5R110 is a really nice trans and has been bullet proof for 60,000 miles so far. The shift points are similar on the Allison, but a better choice as it has double over drive.
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I'm surprised you bring parts being a two joke they are very reliable. I definitely would bring a spare injector though. These engines used to be very reliable but nobody knows how to work on them anymore and they don't last unfortunately.
True, I've never had to use the spare parts, but gives me a peace of mind having them.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 I was broke down a lot as a kid, tools and spare parts are very reasonable things to carry on the truck lol
@@diesellivesmatter Very true.:)
LOL at bystanders thinking the engine is doing warp speed rpms because its a 2 stroke.
Lol, just throws them way off.:) The looks are incredible, from wonder to fear and anger.lol