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Komentáře • 366

  • @doccyclopz
    @doccyclopz Před 5 měsíci +19

    "Gary Glitter, my idol when I was a little kid. I'm glad I never met him, mind!"~Andy Edwards
    The funniest thing I've heard all day!😄

  • @DrakodanSRL
    @DrakodanSRL Před 8 měsíci +21

    "There's not enough murderers in rock and roll." - Andy Edwards

  • @MauriceHotblack
    @MauriceHotblack Před 8 měsíci +10

    Louis Walsh for inflicting Boyzone, Westlife, Take That, Johnny Logan and Jedward on us.

  • @kgrant67
    @kgrant67 Před 8 měsíci +27

    I'm 7 minutes into this video. If Andy doesn't hurry up and tell us he's joking and that he actually does have a well thought out list, he will end up on my list of most evil musicians😂

    • @jonhowe2960
      @jonhowe2960 Před 8 měsíci

      Yes, this is a form of torture

    • @thomascordery7951
      @thomascordery7951 Před 8 měsíci +2

      19 minutes in and, at least for me, Andy's musings have become more interesting than any list ever could be.

    • @SpookyLuvCookie
      @SpookyLuvCookie Před 8 měsíci

      Hope you made it through to the juice

    • @kgrant67
      @kgrant67 Před 8 měsíci

      I did. Towards the end I was wishing I had waited to comment. Was a great discussion@@SpookyLuvCookie

    • @kgrant67
      @kgrant67 Před 8 měsíci

      I agree! @@thomascordery7951

  • @clash79
    @clash79 Před 8 dny

    This intro is exactly the kind of video I would make if I was a youtuber, and had been drinking a good bit. It's perfect. I love it

  • @tomconner2326
    @tomconner2326 Před 5 měsíci +16

    One Phil Specter crime Andy didn't mention is that hair style.

    • @nodiggity9472
      @nodiggity9472 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Pretty sure that was a wig.

    • @robertsutton7949
      @robertsutton7949 Před 2 měsíci

      Like an evil Art Garfunkel

    • @shawnw8717
      @shawnw8717 Před 12 dny

      Definitely a wig. Since the mid 70's he wore a hairpiece that got more hideous as time went on.

  • @klapsigaarenbasgitaar1931
    @klapsigaarenbasgitaar1931 Před 3 měsíci +12

    I can't believe no one mentioned Michael Jackson. I can't help but feel a bit weird when I play his music with my kids around.

    • @GuyJames
      @GuyJames Před 2 měsíci +4

      agree. if he was a lesser musician he'd have been totally cancelled but people don't want to know

    • @Dehazer2112
      @Dehazer2112 Před měsícem +1

      Drs P.

    • @user-jy5ep5mh9y
      @user-jy5ep5mh9y Před 25 dny +2

      Michael upset the people who own the music industry, particularly overrepresented in management. If i remember correctly, he even named them openly, as did Whitney Houston and Kanye West. I never ends well for people who do because they are media types that can smear your good name or print accusations in their newspapers.

    • @user-jy5ep5mh9y
      @user-jy5ep5mh9y Před 25 dny +1

      Michael was innocent

    • @klapsigaarenbasgitaar1931
      @klapsigaarenbasgitaar1931 Před 25 dny

      @@user-jy5ep5mh9y Don't forget Elvis, who is still alive btw.

  • @oolongoolong789
    @oolongoolong789 Před 8 měsíci +4

    British Classical musicians:
    Robert King - In 2007 convicted of fourteen charges of indecent assault, some against minors, and jailed for 3 years 9 months.
    Philip Pickett - In February 2015 he received an 11-year prison sentence for the rape and sexual assault of pupils at the Guildhall School.

  • @user-mad7max11dystopia
    @user-mad7max11dystopia Před 2 měsíci +4

    You can find lists on CZcams even if you need a roadmap to wipe your rear end. I click on Andy for humor and interesting content. Never disappointed.

  • @williamwinslow6582
    @williamwinslow6582 Před 8 měsíci +7

    I just tried to share this on my FB page. Facebook removed it for being "misleading". What a joke. Anyway, this is what I wanted to share with my friends: Andy exemplifies the principle that HOW one thinks is as important, or more important than what one concludes. This was a great video.

  • @craigtodd8297
    @craigtodd8297 Před 7 měsíci +3

    The only time during the course of the whole week, that i laugh good and proper, is when I am watching Andy.

  • @drummusicinc4027
    @drummusicinc4027 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Mickey Harts father was a champion rudimental snare drummer. He scammed the Grateful Dead out of hundreds of thousands of dollars and went on the lamb. Hence the song, “He’s gone” which they wrote about him.

    • @TheloniousCube
      @TheloniousCube Před 8 měsíci

      lam, no b

    • @absolutelypositively
      @absolutelypositively Před 8 měsíci +2

      Great song too. I remember my first GD show. It was in Chicago at the Uptown theater (yes I see your CB Logo). I pretty much was mesmerized watching Kreutzmann and Hart all night. Their sense of timing drumming together. Wasn’t til after drums/space that I realized Jerry was on stage too. They were on that night big time. But those drummers were so captivating in their timing and seeming love of doing what they do. I can watch that show here on YT. Every few years I revisit. So glad someone smuggled in a video recorder.

  • @teamflashtv
    @teamflashtv Před měsícem +2

    "Gary Glitter. My idol when I was a little kid. Glad I never met him, mind." 💥 absolute banger

  • @onsenkuma1979
    @onsenkuma1979 Před 8 měsíci +22

    Do murderers OF music count? If so then there's plenty of those...

    • @mihranbobson7753
      @mihranbobson7753 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Perfect 😂

    • @edwardyazinski3858
      @edwardyazinski3858 Před 8 měsíci

      The list os currently endless

    • @25756881
      @25756881 Před 24 dny

      Nobody murders music. It's alive and you're free to listen to whatever you want.

    • @markperry9427
      @markperry9427 Před 20 dny

      Pete Waterman, or the unholy Trinity of Stock, Aitkin , Waterman

  • @clash79
    @clash79 Před 8 dny

    I'm sure Andy is a super talented musician, but I think he found his true calling later than ideal. He's a funny sob, and is amazing at intelligently humorous commentary

  • @jimmycampbell78
    @jimmycampbell78 Před 8 měsíci +5

    My Musical Axis of Evil is Robbie Williams, Coldplay, Mike Love from the Beach Boys and Don Henley.

    • @GuyJames
      @GuyJames Před 2 měsíci +1

      +1 for Mike Love. Wanker.

  • @johannystrom2444
    @johannystrom2444 Před 8 měsíci +9

    Hi Andy, I follow your videos and enjoy them a lot for various reasons - I get to hear about my fav musicians, I get much tips for music to listen to (like Five Alarm Funk). I enjoyed your thoughts about the unique English estethic which I as a Swede have an unexplainable fondness for. What I say is that you go beyond the music and have deep thoughts around it in your special way . This may very well be your most profound or at least a step in a profounder direction video to date. This channel develops in a curiouser and curiouser way, and I like it.

  • @craigtodd8297
    @craigtodd8297 Před 7 měsíci +1

    "The art should stand up for itself as art" "And should not matter as to the composer"
    That is the strongest sentence I have heard in years. And is very brave.

  • @squareeyedgit
    @squareeyedgit Před 5 měsíci +3

    Captain Beefheart is a tricky one for me - the way Don treated his band during the creation of Trout Mask Replica, going from what John French has written and the others confirmed, sounds at its worst like full-on psychological torture, peppered with occasional physical violence. Nobody was killed, and nobody was REALLY forced to stay in the situation, but for a multitude of reasons they did stay, and the biggest reason was that they all realised that what they were creating was something incredible. A comment section isn't the best place to discuss and debate Don's modus operandi, I've rewritten this paragraph six times now. Suffice to say that Don did some really nasty, manipulative shit, but out of it we get Trout Mask Replica (and the rest).

    • @jeremys5576
      @jeremys5576 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Van Vliet was a bossy control freak, but hardly evil.

  • @jboy55
    @jboy55 Před 2 dny

    Saw a chapter title called "Sublime" immediately spent 15 minutes reading wikipedia and searching for how the band "Sublime" was evil. Then I listened to the chapter...

  • @halmycroft194
    @halmycroft194 Před 18 dny +2

    'I'm sure there are some dodgy black metal musicians' - looking at you, Varg. You too, Famine.

  • @steveunderwood3683
    @steveunderwood3683 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I'm only a couple if minutes in, but I feel this is going to be a setup for a bunch of "criminal record" jokes.

  • @lukaskindt
    @lukaskindt Před 8 měsíci +3

    Very thought-provoking video! I have some difficulty labeling people as good or evil.
    I think everyone does both good things and bad things. And I don't think the good someone does can outwash the bad, but neither can the bad outwash the good.
    I know a lot of people don't agree with me on this, but I think you should be able to love a person for the good they do, while still hating the bad. I don't think those two things are mutually exclusive.

  • @jackstonehenge
    @jackstonehenge Před 6 dny

    In regards to the blues musicians, I thought of how many songs make references to killing their woman. Laughing at how crazy it would be for a new modern song to reference this subject matter.

  • @user-cv8ud8qo9f
    @user-cv8ud8qo9f Před 8 měsíci +4

    To be fair Rolf Harris did murder Stairway to Heaven! ... this was like a top ten list from the film 'Inception'.

  • @nielshoogev1
    @nielshoogev1 Před 6 měsíci +2

    That was a truly awesome video. I missed it when it came out, but enjoyed it nonetheless, about a month out of sync. I don't care if you do lists or not. I don't really value the actual ranking much if you do. How in the world is one sublime prog or fusion album better than another sublime one? However, I do love your explanations, your rants, you waffling. You have found a great balance between profundity and nonsense.

  • @larryzink8978
    @larryzink8978 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Your question at hand requires more careful investment. The question is actually one of good art vs non good. One is healthy for culture and the other is a trapdoor to living hellscape. To be human one must judge what is good and bad. Accept and reject. Your right ; ethics need continuing gradual thoughtful revision. But taboos are the guadrails, bulwarks to anarchy. Wer'e all of us in over our heads and as a serious fine artist I wholeheartedly appreciate your tackling this mighty subject. Rave on rave on!

  • @stevelewis9317
    @stevelewis9317 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Frank Zappa: “Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is the best."

  • @ChrisYossarian
    @ChrisYossarian Před 8 měsíci +4

    Following up on Leadbelly, Blues Singer and Gitarrist T-Model Ford was sentenced to 10 Years prison for murder in the 1940ies. I managed a tour with him around 2000 where I met a great, committed artist with an independent mind and a pleasant guy to deal with.

  • @jamesswapinski9190
    @jamesswapinski9190 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Jack The Ripper played one hell of a horn.

  • @midlander4
    @midlander4 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I don't see why The Lighthouse Family get a hall pass here

  • @paulkenyon3372
    @paulkenyon3372 Před 6 měsíci +2

    If an artist goes icky for you then you know when its just too icky

  • @carlomatthews6676
    @carlomatthews6676 Před 20 dny

    Brilliant reflection Andy! Fully agree.

  • @kingofallmediums2123
    @kingofallmediums2123 Před 6 dny

    Factoid: Andy is really from Charlotte, North Carolina! He does a really good English accent 😂😂😂😂😂 😯 😯 😯 😯 😯

  • @kingofallmediums2123
    @kingofallmediums2123 Před 6 dny

    Andy is the 🐐 of music podcaster! 😮😮😮😮😮😊😊😊😊

  • @arthurroschbooksandmusic7700
    @arthurroschbooksandmusic7700 Před 8 měsíci +7

    Richard Wagner. Maybe not a killer but still pretty sketchy. BTW I love his music!

  • @mleesh9370
    @mleesh9370 Před 8 měsíci +7

    My top 5 is: #1 Varg Vikernes, #2 - #5 the members of Phish

  • @Rog5446
    @Rog5446 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Andy missed the biggest murderer in music, that being Des O'Connor, who murdered more songs than any other singer. Andy also missed Ike Turner, who was once asked on a TV chat show, do you beat your wife (Tina) and replied, no more than any other man beats his wife.

  • @thomascordery7951
    @thomascordery7951 Před 8 měsíci +1

    A turbulent flight taken deliberately through some very nasty weather. Not sure where it goes from here, but you've landed it, Andy! As they say, any landing you can walk away from is a good one. Strong ending.

  • @andyjenbo
    @andyjenbo Před 19 dny

    Timothy Peter Lambesis singer of the metalcore band As I Lay Dying was arrested in 2013 after attempting to hire an undercover police officer to murder his wife.

  • @VIDSTORAGE
    @VIDSTORAGE Před 5 měsíci +2

    Gary ,Lead and Phil were all one of the good guys in life but what flipped them into being what they are known for now ,what flips the switch that makes the good guy turn sour ?

  • @cybermanne
    @cybermanne Před 8 měsíci +1

    This video format is pretty hillarious.

  • @johnaquillo3397
    @johnaquillo3397 Před 21 dnem

    ...mate, i think you should make a list of the most bipolar musicians in rock, pop, jazz fusion or prog and then list yourself on it!

  • @billybeck
    @billybeck Před 4 měsíci +1

    We create because we were created.

  • @paulmcmillen5925
    @paulmcmillen5925 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Maybe Jim Gordan's mom was the evil one and he was only one to see her real side.

  • @astronomer747
    @astronomer747 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Musicians are often traumatized, highly emotionally sensitive people with a lot of personal openness. That's part of what gives them their gift for songwriting, but such people also tend towards addiction, mental illness, and relational instability. I think you can create good art and be a terrible person. Beethoven was an abusive uncle. He served as a surrogate father for his brothers in some capacity. That abusive behavior he obviously had inherited from his father Johann. He drove his poor nephew to suicide with his moral austerity. Although he really did care about his nephew I think, he was a terrible figure to have care for him. It's undeniable that this is some of the most well composed music even if it came from a very emotionally unstable and abusive character. Most of the great musicians are kind of tragic people that live chaotic lives. Music is a kind of therapy for them I think.

  • @Whit-mh9nt
    @Whit-mh9nt Před 8 měsíci +1

    Joins the ranks of the evil musicians with his intro..Evil show, Andy...

  • @Innerspace100
    @Innerspace100 Před 4 měsíci +2

    As a Norwegian, I am all too familiar with that infamous sub genre known as black metal. And in there, there's been some real stinkers...
    Øystein "Euronymous" Aarseth, co-founder and guitar player of Mayhem. If the stories surrounding their lead singer Pelle "Dead" Ohlin's suicide is true, then I think he gives even Varg, his murderer, a run for his money with regards to evil...
    There are also some pretty disturbing stories about Kristian "Gaahl" Espedal, the former singer of Gorgoroth...
    And what was the name of that guy who murdered someone at the Olympic Park in Lillehammer.... can't remember... Was it Bård Eitun? It might have been...

    • @daverigby23
      @daverigby23 Před 3 měsíci

      Varg used to blog on CZcams. From some of the bits of informtion gave out, he's living not far from me i,n Limousin, France

  • @christiantaylor4027
    @christiantaylor4027 Před 5 měsíci

    Andy you have risen to the top of the list.

    • @christiantaylor4027
      @christiantaylor4027 Před 5 měsíci

      Don't worry I'll be back. Love the show. Black page episode was actually instructive. Cheers.

  • @jonhowe2960
    @jonhowe2960 Před 8 měsíci +4

    you left out all of REO Speedwagon (for being REO Speedwagon)

  • @PeterWetherill
    @PeterWetherill Před 8 měsíci +2

    There is one jazz musicisn that went crazy and shot both of his sons one died and the other crippled then he killed himself. He was considered and still is considered one of the best jazz trombonists ever. His name is Frank Rosolino. He was a member of supersax and 10 months before he recorded a song that featured him called Gloomy Sunday. This song is also called the suicide song.

    • @pfaessel1
      @pfaessel1 Před 8 měsíci

      His wife dumped him for another woman: then he went REALLY crazy!

    • @PeterWetherill
      @PeterWetherill Před 8 měsíci +1

      Actually, his ex-wife who was the mother of his two sons killed herself after their divorce. Frank was cheating on her. Shortly before he did the evil deed he mentioned that he wanted the family to be back together again in heaven.

  • @martinpirint8559
    @martinpirint8559 Před 8 měsíci +1

    This is the most EVIL video. It is only slightly LESS EVIL that Phil Spector's production on Let It Be.

  • @glenwiffen7188
    @glenwiffen7188 Před 3 měsíci

    Excellent piece

  • @joshuafrank4643
    @joshuafrank4643 Před 2 měsíci

    2 examples come to mind for me: Michael Jackson (if he did in fact sexually abuse young boys), and TV On the Radio (who at one point like Roger Waters started voicing their political views regarding Palestine).
    With Jackson, I never listened to his music that much prior to his death. After his death, I started to listen to and appreciate some of his hits, like "Rock With Me" and "Billy Jean." Andy, you make a very good point about artists who might be "evil" and yet produce upbeat tunes that we can all enjoy dancing to. Despite what Michael Jackson may have done in his private life, this does not change my appreciation for his music.
    As for TV On the Radio, I would say the same exact thing. I like their music as much now as I did prior to finding out that they had opinions that differed widely from my own, but to me this is kind of like Crosby, Stills, & Nash getting politically involved during the Vietnam War protests of the late 1960s. It doesn't much bother me, as long as it doesn't get in the way of the quality of the music these artists produced, and in my view their politics never really interfered with their creative endeavors.

  • @dbarker7794
    @dbarker7794 Před 8 měsíci +2

    After watching this, i think Andy belongs in the Top Ten.
    But seriously, have you read about Spade Cooley?

  • @jeremys5576
    @jeremys5576 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Today's increasingly tribalistic society needs a refresher course in nuance, recognising the shades of grey which make up reality and the human condition. Thanks for championing these truths with humour and imagination. Wonderful video.

  • @craigtodd8297
    @craigtodd8297 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I think you'll find that an evil person can be incredibly creative and artistic. BUT. The art of the honest and pure will find a shadow and can surpass. Good conqueres bad. Just.

  • @Lultschful
    @Lultschful Před 2 měsíci +3

    Bertrand Cantat of french rock band Noir Désir, beat his wife to death. That's evil enough.

  • @blackcatcentralmusic
    @blackcatcentralmusic Před 8 měsíci +2

    We're getting deep now ;-) All human beings are flawed. I make a distinction between people who are fallen versus evil. Director and writer Ken Russell often explored the theme of bad people creating great art: Delius ("The Song of Summer"), Strauss ("Dance of the Seven Veils"), Liszt and Wagner ("Lisztomania").
    In "Lisztomania" there is a beautiful scene in heaven with Liszt, his loves, and daughter Cosima. After the ensemble plays "Liebestraum" (a recurring musical theme in the film), Marie D'Agoult laments that they were all horrible and selfish but, "The bad is dead and buried. The best of us lives on enshrined in his (Liszt's) music. And that's for everyone to share. Forever." (paraphrasing from memory).

    • @SuperNevile
      @SuperNevile Před 21 dnem

      If we're going there let's consider Reinhard Heydrich, principal archtect of The Holocaust. From Wikipedia. Heydrich's father founded the Halle Conservatory of Music, Theatre, and Teaching and his mother taught piano there. As the oldest son, Reinhard was expected to inherit his father's music conservatory and was trained in music by his father. He learned the piano and violin by the time he was six years old. Heydrich developed a passion for the violin and carried that interest into adulthood; he impressed listeners with his musical talent.

  • @PeterWasted
    @PeterWasted Před 8 měsíci +2

    I didn't know about Roy Estrada. Very sad. In the spirit of philosophy, some might say that the truly evil musicians are the ones we don't know about.

  • @JoeBeaven
    @JoeBeaven Před 3 měsíci +1

    Bard "Faust" Eithun

  • @romuloromano
    @romuloromano Před 8 měsíci +2

    This one is a very promising candidate for the list of the TEN MOST TEDIOUS CZcams-videos ever. Andy, please come back to normal, you‘ve made so many interesting videos.

  • @JimDooley
    @JimDooley Před 8 měsíci +1

    OMG, I paused the video to look up Ian Watkins. Why did you even say his name?!!! Now I'm afraid to hip play again. 😬

  • @andrewmacardle9872
    @andrewmacardle9872 Před 2 měsíci

    But isn't art an extension of the artist's personality. An expression of their creativity, emotional sensibility, genius, or madness.
    Art is communication. A means of sharing information and engaging interest. Its insighfulness is in the attempt to create something permanent, fragile, or inspiring.
    The power of 10 pieces of art that have resonated an emotional connection or association. Perhaps the art tells us more about the artist than the artist know of them self. Very revealing, Andy.

  • @DjangoThunders
    @DjangoThunders Před 19 dny

    Think of what happened to so many bands.
    Evil is all around.
    No matter where you go.

  • @heresthething41
    @heresthething41 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I tend to separate the art from the artist. I listen to music from many musicians who I would probably not really like being around. That doesn't negate their talent. I respect the talent & the creativity. But I would not want to hang out with them. I don't even agree with many of their philosophies, which they display in their songs. But I appreciate the wordsmithing aspect of it. And even the expression of their contrary opinions. It is how they feel. I may feel differently. But it is interesting to hear how others process the world they live in.

  • @danielschaeffer1294
    @danielschaeffer1294 Před 8 měsíci +3

    It’s really arrogant for an artist to impose the question on his audience and force them to make such decisions. If an artist indulges in behavior or ideas that antagonize the audience, he only has himself to blame and not the audience. Example: Cat Stevens really did call for the death of Salman Rushdie, several times in fact, and has lied about the matter ever since, and I’m one of millions who cannot hear his tunes without remembering that - so I just refuse to. (And speaking as an American, the truth about Trump has to be faced. Yes, he’s evil. He’s not just an alternative voice for the working class. He’s a sociopath, a professional swindler, and a traitor who wants to be a dictator.)

    • @jimmycampbell78
      @jimmycampbell78 Před 8 měsíci +2

      I don’t listen to Cat Stevens for the reason that I genuinely think his songs are rubbish.

  • @alternativepreacher4516
    @alternativepreacher4516 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I personally like a lot of black metal while acknowledging that a lot of the artists were evil/unhinged, so I don't worship them as persons but I still appreciate some of the work they created (Dissection, Mayhem etc.).

  • @mariobarrela
    @mariobarrela Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hello Andy
    I think you don’t no this history about this musician and evil. It’s about John McLaughlin and a tune from Extrapolation.
    I discovered that there is a very sad and tragic story behind the tune “Binky’s Beam” on Extrapolation, who was composed as a tribute to his friend the innovative bass player Bonny McKenzie.
    You can read it here:
    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binky_McKenzie

  • @LWilloxMusic
    @LWilloxMusic Před 8 měsíci +2

    The Batchelor Boy

  • @Dehazer2112
    @Dehazer2112 Před měsícem

    Does he really made a list? Or is he making it on the spot? Are we getting conned? What about they other lists? Is Andy getting unveiled? The wizard of Oz? I just have to watch this now.

  • @ThreeBeingOne
    @ThreeBeingOne Před 3 měsíci

    I’m here for the rambling. That is why I’m here

  • @jonathanwoodvincent
    @jonathanwoodvincent Před 8 měsíci +2

    Carlo Gesualdo murdered his wife and her lover. Idi Amin, murderous dictator and cannibal, played the accordion. General Reinhard Heydrich, who orchestrated the final solution, was an accomplished pianist

    • @AndyEdwardsDrummer
      @AndyEdwardsDrummer  Před 8 měsíci +1

      I can't picture Amin playing the accordian, he looks like a Tuba guy to me

    • @jonathanwoodvincent
      @jonathanwoodvincent Před 8 měsíci

      czcams.com/video/2Qe0VwaAMkw/video.html&ab_channel=jasondlane1@@AndyEdwardsDrummer

    • @Innerspace100
      @Innerspace100 Před 4 měsíci

      Heydrich played the violin, didn't he?

    • @jonathanwoodvincent
      @jonathanwoodvincent Před 4 měsíci

      @@Innerspace100 according to wikipedia, yes, that was his main axe. My source was from somewhere else. Thanks for the correction

  • @Liam-jx4zb
    @Liam-jx4zb Před 8 měsíci +2

    GG Allin was pretty evil to his audience tbh

  • @carlomercorio1250
    @carlomercorio1250 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Varg Vikernes of Burzum - murderer; Bard Faust from Dissection - murderer

  • @danielschaeffer1294
    @danielschaeffer1294 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I’ll bet Jagger won’t be on the list. He always wanted to pretend he’s evil, but when he’s acted like a creep he’s just been a creep.

  • @yellowjackboots2624
    @yellowjackboots2624 Před 6 dny

    Jerry Lee Lewis. His nickname was literally "K!ller" 😄

  • @sinenkaari5477
    @sinenkaari5477 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Number 1 Andy Edwards :D

  • @jpalberthoward9
    @jpalberthoward9 Před 5 měsíci +1

    If you're not confined to just strictly rock guys, there's Pat Hare and Spade Cooley.

  • @thesixthbeatle
    @thesixthbeatle Před 5 dny

    Did you include yourself and Scot Lahhh-day?

  • @jdmresearch
    @jdmresearch Před 8 měsíci +3

    Captain beefheart, the way they recorded trout mask replica… some people say Fripp, the way he treated some collaborators (Judy Dyble… and Mel Collins in 1972).

    • @edwardyazinski3858
      @edwardyazinski3858 Před 8 měsíci

      Pat Hare wicked good blues guitarist for Muddy among others. Shot his wife and then a cop.

  • @neilloughran4437
    @neilloughran4437 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Sounds like you have an idea for a new Top Trumps edition.

  • @Oenloveslife
    @Oenloveslife Před 8 měsíci +1

    You're cracking me up in this intro 😂

  • @grimtraveller7923
    @grimtraveller7923 Před 8 měsíci +2

    For me it is simplified by using a biblical definition of evil, which is anything that God {as revealed through the bible} deems to be outside of what he considers to be good. In that sense, every human being is, at some point, in a state of evil.
    Now, with that in mind, though we may find ourselves in an evil {I prefer the word 'sinful'} state, this does not mean we are incapable of good actions or good thoughts. It just means that we are continually prone to things that even we deem to be wrong. One can rag on "religion" {I do} or the way of Christ {specifically - I used to. But for the last 39 years, it's the way I've walked}, but there we find something that, despite the view of those that don't believe, can be observed. Daily. Many times a day.
    So, if someone in a sinful state is musically {or in other artistic disciplines} learned enough, they can create great art, no doubt about it. It is always going to be a nuanced, paradoxical argument as to the degree one's persona bleeds into one's art.
    As far as morality goes, I think that those that are generally morally correct can still be wrong about things and the vice is versa. Sometimes, nasty people can point out truths that the supposedly moral cannot or will not or choose not to see.
    But that doesn't mean I'm going to look to them for my moral framework.
    John Lennon, whose works as a Beatle I dig and whose opinions I find interesting {whether I agree with them or not}, spiked a couple of girls with LSD ~ unknown to them. At that point, his wife was away. So here you have a guy, planning to cheat again on his wife and potentially damaging a couple of young girls.
    Am I seriously going to look at him for some kind of moral leadership ?
    No I am not and that's an example that can be replicated across hundreds, if not thousands of artists.
    Sometmes you can separate an artist's life style from their art and sometimes you can't. Each must make up their own mind.

  • @littlegrant
    @littlegrant Před 8 měsíci +1

    Well done.
    I too have much thought on all this.
    And there may be some that feel I am evil.
    I am not alone here.
    All subjective? Relative?

  • @Joethedrummer
    @Joethedrummer Před 8 měsíci +1

    The world is real but the world of the mind is not real.

  • @garygomesvedicastrology
    @garygomesvedicastrology Před 2 měsíci

    Charles Mingus one said that we are told to remember the good and forget the bad about people who pass away. The only person he could not remember anything bad about was Eric Dolphy.

  • @sidvicioux
    @sidvicioux Před 8 měsíci +1

    i just like dialing up brits and listening to them ramble!!

  • @Dehazer2112
    @Dehazer2112 Před měsícem

    Yes Andy I fully agree, but my problem is that it does affect me. I enjoy Garry Glitter's and Michael Jackson's music less than I did before, I dont put m on anymore. I wish it wasnt, but it is. I dont judge them, its something else.

  • @FloatingAnarchy61
    @FloatingAnarchy61 Před 8 měsíci +6

    It's strange that a lot of people see Manson as a hero of the counterculture. I remember being at Stonehenge festival in 83 or 84. All types of strange people used to be there, I used to think where do these people go the rest of the year, add very strong acid supplied by the convoy and it could get pretty wild. Anyway I spotted a stall called The friends of Charles Manson. I decided to investigate and tried to talk to one of the blokes running it. This wasn't some 50 year old acid casualty, he looked younger than me, and I was in my early 20's. He didn't seem to be talking directly to me, but to a space above my head. He said, 'Charlie said, I am a mirror, and what you see in me is you'. I just said to him, 'well that's just crap 6th form philosophy, is that the best you've got'. Some of them though looked genuinely scary. Most of the bands back in the day who got ripped off would probably think their managers were evil, the likes of Don Arden known for dangling people out of windows by their ankles. Peter Grant as well, although he was very protective towards the band. I love this story though. During one of Zeps early tours of America Jimmy Page was being hassled by some American sailors, pullìng his hair, calling him a faggot, etc. Grant came up behind one of them, spun him around, picked him up one handed by the throat, and snarled 'What's your fucking game Popeye', before dropping him on the floor in a heap. Needles to say the rest of them legged it pretty sharpish.

    • @TheloniousCube
      @TheloniousCube Před 8 měsíci +1

      "a lot of people see Manson as a hero of the counterculture" - what do you mean by "a lot"? I've never heard this from anyone

    • @FloatingAnarchy61
      @FloatingAnarchy61 Před 8 měsíci

      ​A lot of musicians had an unhealthy fascination with him. Trent Reznor actually moved into Sharon Tate's old house and set up a recording studio there. Tate's sister accused him of exploiting her sisters death and he later regretted his decision to use the house. Genesis P Orridge was another during his time in Throbbing Gristle, and of course Marilyn Manson. You can dismiss a lot of the bands as doing it for shock value for sure. But a disturbing cult did grow up around him, especially after the publication of the book Helter Skelter in the mid 70's by the prosecutor in the trial Victor Bugliosi. T Shirts and all sorts of paraphernalia are available even today. Some people use the argument that 'Charlie never killed anyone', conveniently overlooking the power he held over the Family. Others saw it as an attack on the rich and privileged, which aligned with the countercultures anti materialism credo. Also one of the main reasons for Manson's philosophy of Helter Skelter was to provoke a race war, something that the Alt-right have picked up on in recent years. I want to make it clear though that in no way do I condone any of this, he was a scumbag, but he does seem to attract this unhealthy fascination.

  • @charlfrick8245
    @charlfrick8245 Před měsícem

    Manager Allen Klein: bought rights to My Sweet Lord so as to profit from George Harrison having to pay for allegedly plagiarising it.

  • @thomascordery7951
    @thomascordery7951 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Pushing the click bait title envelope! Love it! Now I'm definitely going to listen through to the end of your non-list.
    How about the ten most tragically troubled musical geniuses? I'd have poor old Jaco high up on mine. John Bonham.
    More positively, how about the ten musicians with the most generous hearts? I'll give you two of mine, and then you'll know I'm a bass player, lol. Ron Carter and Victor Wooten.

  • @txikitofandango
    @txikitofandango Před měsícem +1

    I'm three minutes in, where is Renaissance composer Carlo Gesualdo?? How do you sleep at night churning out such illiterate Dreck (unter deinen Walzen)
    I'm happy you brought up Nietzsche, that art, aesthetic judgments, are on top. And this idea, the sublime of art, of nature, goes back to the granddaddy of them all, Immamuel Kant. Talk about unpalatable ideas that we need today...

  • @halfalligator6518
    @halfalligator6518 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I think you're correct that art is art, and on its own merits it shouldn't matter what the creator did. Unless of course part of the artistic value is tied up in the story or life experience of the artist (which is often the case). But whatever the answer is to that question... music can still be less enjoyable once you learn something awful about the musician. It's just unavoidable for some of us. Maybe a good analogy would be having a conversation with a friend before and after you figured out something horribly evil they did. The conversation might hit all the same points, but in the background you'll just be cringing at who your company is.

    • @AndyEdwardsDrummer
      @AndyEdwardsDrummer  Před 6 měsíci

      Yes... that is the dilemma fundamentally that I'm trying to deal with here

  • @wilddjango
    @wilddjango Před 8 měsíci +2

    Yaeh!!!!! Gary GLITTER!!!!! sublime!

  • @danceswithcritters
    @danceswithcritters Před 4 dny

    I've heard bad things about Chuck Berry.

  • @cbolt4492
    @cbolt4492 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Mad video

  • @sicko_the_ew
    @sicko_the_ew Před 8 měsíci +1

    RL Burnside shot an intruder dead. He was happy about it. Instead of some dead Burnsides, there was some perp, dead instead, and he looked upon the body and knew that this was good. In an interview he smiled when asked about the incident, and said, "In an emergency, don't call 911; call 357". Something like that. He said it better. He was a great lyricist.
    Now some people would insist that just by not waiting to see if the police might arrive on time to save his family from what might well have been a lethal threat (but maybe not), and instead, "calling 357", he chose Evil over Good. Because of whatever reason that can be invoked to attribute this blame upon him.
    The way I see it, he had a point, and the people who are angry at him for killing the intruder instead of trying something _ex cathedra_ holy and righteous, but practically risky, dangerous, and probably frightening, also have a point. (But he was quite skinny when he was young. Not exactly built for physically subduing tough thugs who smash their way into your house to beat you into submission.)
    Another point, though, is that he created some sublime blues music. So it could be argued that the world at large lost nothing by losing the thug, whereas it would've lost someone of immeasurable value to everyone else, had he suffered sufficient injury in the assault that was on its way. What if the thug had damaged his right hand, for instance? Maybe we don't get a say in this, but it seems quite obvious that according to the rest of us there's a clear preferable outcome in the contest between "dead perp" and "injured bluesman". The bluesman wins. The music he makes is too valuable to lose to something like that to a choice to be very very good, and not call 357 to solve the crime emergency of that moment.
    Exhibit A: czcams.com/video/XXvf12Bi6v8/video.html

    • @AndyEdwardsDrummer
      @AndyEdwardsDrummer  Před 8 měsíci +2

      RL Burnside is in my top 5 Blues musicians

    • @sicko_the_ew
      @sicko_the_ew Před 8 měsíci

      @@AndyEdwardsDrummer In my opinion (which is unfortunately worth much, but still, at least it's something) he was the rea deal, right down to the marrow. I think maybe to be great in the blues someone has to have a lot of what a religious person might call soul, or spirit or something personal like that. Maybe that's so for all music, but to me it feels like in the case of the blues that certain something about the musician is especially important. (The certain personal something that the musician brings along just by existing and being who they are might make a passable emergency philosophy Sunday starting point if you ever run out of topics. Not that that's likely.)

  • @craigroaring
    @craigroaring Před 2 měsíci

    record labels

  • @JamesZweck-qw9gm
    @JamesZweck-qw9gm Před 6 měsíci +1

    A little late to the party on this one but Leadbelly and Howlin' Wolf both killed people.