Anyone else has watched several of Scott's videos, and is gradually becoming addicted to his style and feels sad when a day goes by without a new video?
Growing up in the 70s, you couldn't get away from radio hits like 10cc's 'I'm Not in Love' or Doobie Bros' 'Black Water.' I grew to hate them because of the overplaying. Listening to them recently, they floored me with how good they were.
AOR radio stations is where I got my start into Metal, Prog, and Prog Metal. Classic Rock stations made me hate Fleetwood Mac, Boston, and the Eagles for overplaying them until I never wanted to hear them ever again.
I disagree about Back to Black. I think it was more "fashionable" than overrated. Amy W. had her own "retro" groove that was not built for large arenas. My respect for this album grew when I listened more closely to the arrangements, and they're fantastic. And her vocals are superb.
A Prog Rock connection to Thriller is that Jon Anderson of Yes said in an interview that Quincy Jones told him that he and Michael Jackson got the riff on Billie Jean from a track on the The Friends Of Mr. Cairo, an album Jon made with Vangelis.
For me, I tend to think albums are overrated when they are over exposed. It’s hard for me to listen to Led Zeppelin IV, Dark Side of the Moon, Wish you were Here, Rumours, or anything by the Eagles. They get played so much. Not that they are not great albums; the media ruined them for me
I love that Zon record behind you, I remember buying the album when it was released and it was pretty good. I agree that the followup to your number one is a better album! Awesome story about meeting Michael!!
Great show and observations ! Evaluating albums from another era reminds me of a comment made by Miles Davis when a journalist told him he had been listening to an album of his from 1948. He said that he thought Miles had improved greatly since then. "When did you first hear it ?" Miles asked. "About a year ago" said the journalist. " Man" said Miles, "you should have heard it in 1948 !"
He really threw in the kitchen sink. The E Street Band were cornball and made his tunes hard to listen to. His minimalist detour on Nebraska led to a whole new spasm of overrating because everyone was so excited to hear stripped-down Bruce.
There’s a reason certain albums sell well. It’s because they’re good albums. Obviously other cultural influences play into this, but to sit here and call albums like nevermind, sgt. peppers, dark side of the moon overrated is a pointless conversation. For example, I agree wish you were here is ever so slightly better than dark side (although it’s close), but I acknowledge there are reasons for its greater success over wish you were here. In the case of Michael Jackson’s thriller, the only way it could not be considered “overrated”, in any way let alone the most overrated of all time, is if it were the best album of all time. And that, IS AN INCREDIBLY SUBJECTIVE TOPIC. What one considers to be the best of anything is bound to have controversy. Therefore, it is an impossibility for thriller not to be considered overrated by someone because of the threshold it is placed in. And because of the negative connotation that is associated with calling an album overrated, the only thing coming out of a conversation like this is turning people away from great music, like all of the previously mentioned albums. Success and quality should not be this heavily aligned!
Love to see the Frank Black album behind you Scott. He’s my absolute favourite singer / guitarist songwriter as his written work for all his solo stuff ( and the Catholics) and Pixies stuff testify.
ditto! so many great tunes and that little rasp in his voice. first time i heard Calistan i was hooked. GREAT. (i also , want to live on an Abstract Plane)
Honestly a good point. Just because something's overrated doesn't make it automatically terrible, it could just be decent but with an unjustified amount of hype and reputation to it. I do like some of the bigger singles off of Thriller, especially the title track, but I can see why the album on the whole doesn't quite match the sales figures. (And in my opinion his best song was Smooth Criminal, anyway, that's a hill I'm prepared to die on.) As for albums I'm a bit more specifically versed in, I might have to be a bit controversial and say The Wall, at least among prog albums. I don't think it's bad, by any means, and there's a lot I really like and appreciate about the themes and some specific standout tracks. I just have a bit of a hard time wanting to go back to listen to it as a whole because I find the plot, while good in concept, a bit scattershot in execution, a bunch of songs are a bit boring to me even when they're necessary for the story to work, and that inflates the run time a bit past what I'd be willing to put up with. That, and the bitter irony of an album about the dangers of self-isolation only driving Roger Waters further from the people around him. It's still a really good album, but coming after a string of truly great albums it's a bit underwhelming for its reputation. There's still the makings of a great album in there, it's just not quite finished. (As unpopular an opinion as it is I find myself going back to the Gilmour-led albums more than The Wall, maybe I'm just weird but there's some good tracks buried on those.) That said, you can't argue with Comfortably Numb. But hey, I've seen plenty of people be harsher than me about The Wall, so, if enough people call something overrated, does it cease to be overrated in some sense? Worth pondering, I suppose.
Everything by the Clash, they were good but personally ive always preferred The Damned who are so much more diverse and criminally underrated (and much better musicians) im sure ill get some hate for that, what can i say Scott, im feeling inspired:-), also can't stand ELPs Brain Salad surgery.........thats it ive done it now haven't i, great video as always
It figures that it took a dance move to start the feeding frenzy. Says a lot about pop music. All those boy bands and Britney Spears etc were always more about dancing than they were about music….not comparing MJ to any of those…he had more talent in his pinky finger than most huge pop stars.
Your opinion on dark side of the moon being overrated and not their best album is so accurate! I think animals and wish you were here are both perfect albums with incredible depth and meaning putting them above dark side. Love the energy and vibes from Canada 🇨🇦
I have always thought that it has a generic elevator music quality to it, so perfectly performed by great session players that it lacks some needed humanity. It is too cool for school.
Yeah, Steely Dan is for listeners who think Rock needs sophistication (it doesn't). Consequently, the Dan's records are Rock that wants to be Jazz but not Fusion. Nevertheless, I've always though 'Rikki Don't Lose That Number' is fantastic.
Nirvana should always be praised for shutting down all those horrible guys who look like girls and treat women like crap poser bands like motley spew and poison.
What is your take on Barclay James Harvest? Prog or not prog. Good bad or indifferent? You have introduced me to some killer sounds. Appreciate your kids. Peace.
Hey Scott, I've watched a few of your videos and have come to the conclusion that you are the Scotty Kilmer of prog rock. That's cool. I wish I could be as animated as you and Scotty Kilmer, but I just can't. Keep up the good work!!!
I never got the Guns and Roses thing. I never thought they were that good. The playing was average but went well with the average arrangements. And I couldn't stand Axel Rose's vocals. And Bon Jovi. Awful. I always thought of Bon Jovi as corporate rock's 80's' Hair Band.
@@roy421000 There's a clip of me performing in our local bar dressed in Amish attire and singing Adele while playing banjo. Its not horrible but my brother said it sounded like Axel Rose trying to sing Adele. That was so mean but kind of spot on too. It wasn't too good
Maybe it's just me but I heavily dislike the term "overrated" and find it overused. Strikes me as conceited since it's about thinking that you know whether or not something deserves the acclaim it gets and I think that saying "this isn't for me and I can take solace in the fact that it's for someone else" is a far more mature way of going about things.
I find the "overrated *band*" lists pointless and frustrating because most people have only a cursory and incomplete knowledge of a bands catalog. I've seen reaction videos of middle aged guys in AC/ DC t shirts doing first time reactions to Black Sabbath or Queen. Some bands are known for only a few songs, and those will likely be accessible ones that get played on the radio. There's so many bands whose best songs are hidden away on their albums that rarely get airplay. If all people knew of The Beatles was She Loves You and Day Tripper then most people would think them highly overrated. Overrated *albums* lists are a bit better because there's a higher chance that people have actually listened to it all the way through and formed an opinion.
Totally agree. Thriller just has too many skippable songs to warrant its sales. Just came across your channel today, and though I mainly listen to metal, I’m digging your format. Subscribed.
@@TheProgCornerDave seems like a lovely human. He’s supports new acts, respects the classic artists, and draws nary a negative word. But I find FF’s music dull as dishwater. 😂
To me, "Off the Wall" is a much better record. Actually, "Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough", as recorded on that album, is the very best thing Michael Jackson ever made as a solo artist in my book.
I think to talk about GnR’s Appetite you have to look at it in the context of the time it came out when MTV was drowning in synth pop and hair metal bands( a few of which were good), but nonetheless, Appetite felt like a breath of fresh air at the time. I also think the deep cuts on that album are better than most of the singles that came off the record. In retrospect I still think it’s their best album and I do still like it, but not as much as I used to, so maybe it hasn’t aged very well.
Thriller is a perfect culmination of the times. It's a Quincy Jones album with MJ on vocals. They were at their zenith at the time with the rest of the session players.
Even that cool "Mama say mama sa..." part in P.Y.T. isn't that cool since he ripped it off wholesale from “Soul Makossa” by Cameroonian musician Manu Dibango.
Thriller is kind of like the Mona Lisa of pop music. If you go to the Louvre, people are crowding to see and photograph the Mona Lisa. No other painting attracts anything like as much attention. This is not because it's the best painting of all time but because it is the most famous painting of all time. Its status as the most well-known has perpetuated its popularity. Thriller has continued to be the best-selling album of all time simply because it is the best-selling album of all time. Having said that, a bit harsh on Beat It!
Sorry, but I have to go with Pet Sounds. Often called the greatest album of all time, and it's actually bad even by Beach Boys standards, which is not a high bar.
@@bobturnley2787By the standards of their contemporaries. It is the worst of the great 60s albums. All the fancy production techniques can't fix twee songs
@@sbwlearning1372 Aftermath and Fresh Cream are good albums, not great. Revolver and Blonde on Blonde both have one great song, otherwise hugely overrated. It wasn't the best album of the decade but there was nothing better in 1966.
You are so right- aside from the great 'Billie Jean,' the album should be called 'Filler.' The LP that Rock critics adore is 'Forever Changes' by Love. Try as I might, I don't hear it. BTW, the best Stones album is 'Let it Bleed.'
To this day, I still don’t have any Michael Jackson in my collection. And although I’ve thought about getting ‘ Thriller ‘ in the past, I just couldn’t go there due to its burnout play. Speaking of burnout, I get why people are tired of albums like Dark Side, but I still think Rumors is exceptional. It rocketed its way to stardom because its overall appeal to the masses. Rumors is one of those that people enjoyed without even being a fan of Fleetwood Mac. However, I’m definitely into the early Peter Green material.
One thing to keep in mind: there’s a difference between being overplayed and overrated. I remember when I first actually went out and bought a copy of Led Zeppelin 4 back in the 80’s, as I sat there listening, I found myself wishing I could actually experience this music for the first time. Every song was absolutely brilliant, but the were ALL perennial staples of the mainstream Rock radio of the day, to the point where I’d already grown up hearing everyone of these songs my whole life, I was intimately familiar with every note, I didn’t need to actually buy the album, it was already pretty much engrained my DNA.
I agree with you wholeheartedly, but I’m sure that I never heard ‘Four Sticks’ on any radio ( Even the ultra progressive WOWI in the early/mid 70s) That album shaped me
@@timmillan6701 It might not have been played as often as a lot of Zeppelin songs, but I definitely know for sure that I’d heard it on the radio because I specifically remember when I got to that song on the album thinking “Oh, this is that Zep song I *don’t* really like that much.” (My appreciation for it has grown since, but it’s still probably the closest thing IV has to a weak track)
@johnbrowne2170 The eagles used to open for Jethro Tull. Tull has a song called "we used to know" not too long after their time with Tull they came out with the song "Hotel California". Very coincidentally, their song has the same chord progression as "we used to know".
@johnbrowne2170 I agree, it's a better song, Even Ian Anderson, the guy who wrote. We used to know, says that it's a better song. But that's just one song. if you've ever seen the Eagles live and you think they are great.Then you haven't seen very many bands.
It’s depends on HOW something is overrated. Is it in terms of popularity, or is it in terms of its innovation? In that regard, yes, I do think Pet Sounds is not the monumental work of art that it’s often considered. I agree about thriller. Good album, but nothing spectacular. I would also say, that Princes popularity far exceeds his actual talent, but that’s another story.
Prince? Hmmmm. When I saw him live it changed my opinion of him. This was right at the time of 1999 - right before he blew up. I was impressed. But I’m easily influenced…
It was, Rock With You and the title track are amazing. Totally era defining. Thriller was rubbish in comparison, the videos made it appear better than it was.
Glad to see the point made about Off the Wall - great album and superior to Thriller in my opinion. I think those videos for Thriller with their enormous productions had a lot to do with making Thriller so popular at the time.
Hey, Scott. I was surprised to see that New England album behind you. Hadn't thought of them in ages. There are a few cool songs on there. Thanks for the reminder.
I think most of these albums come into this category not because they are bad but because they are overplayed to death . I don’t care if I never hear Rumours again ever .
My 5 are .............. #1) U2 - Joshua Tree #2) Taylor Swift - 1984 #3) Guns 'n Roses - Appetite for Destruction #4) David Bowie - Blackstar #5) Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
@@johnhoran9840 It's not widely known that the guitarist's nickname was originally "The Hedge"but that obviously became ridiculous after all of his hair fell out over a long weekend. That's what overusing delay pedals does to you.
I'd pick Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart as the most overrated album ever. It's an intentionally wacky experiment to make an album as painful to listen as possible. It's just musically terrible. I don't believe anyone actually likes it, people who say they like it are just admiring it for it's novelty value. -Pet Sounds by The Beach Boys. It has two or three great songs, but to me most of it is just okay. -Dark Side Of The Moon. It's mostly an album of inoffensive and accessible soft rock at heart, but because it's dressed up with "meaningful" lyrics and cool sound effects it's considered a work of art. And don't tell me I need to be high to appreciate it best, that's like saying you have a girlfriend who's prettiest when you're drunk. Led Zeppelin 1- okay it was very influential but over the years I've become aware of just how much of it is unoriginal. Some songs like Dazed and Confused, Babe I'm Gonna Leave You and How Many More Times , Communication Breakdown are reworkings of other peoples songs. Black Mountain Side is a complete ripoff of a Bert Jansch song. And with a couple of admitted covers like You Shook Me and I Can't Quit You Baby, that doesn't leave much original songwriting left. -Beatles "White Album" - I know they were experimenting but there's just too many silly throwaway songs. -Queen Greatest Hits albums. A lot of "fans" these days merely own the Greatest Hits albums and enjoy watching Freddie the Showman onstage. 1970s Queen albums are full of obscure gems that a lot of fans seem to have never heard. Like Black Sabbath, Rush, Yes and Genesis, it's the 1970s work that has them at their best. Paranoid by Black Sabbath. I *do* think this is a great album, the trouble is it totally overshadows the other Black Sabbath albums. The first six Sabbath albums are great. They were actually getting into prog metal territory with Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage. It's like people only heaping praise on Revolver by The Beatles while ignoring the other albums.
I agree about Trout Mask Replica, it's one of those albums I've tried to "get" for decades, and just can't. I also agree about Led Zeppelin's debut, it's practically a cover album (Led Zeppelin II is half covers as well). I'd also throw in Nevermind the Bullocks by The Sex Pistols. It has 4 great tracks on it and the rest I never need to hear again. However, those are offset by your takes on Pet Sounds and Dark Side, which are insane to me.
And here I thought that CCR diss yesterday was enough of a nuke! I don’t dislike Michael Jackson but I never caught on to him as much as some, so this doesn’t bother me at all lol.
Long standing Beatles fan can't understand why the White album is highly rated. Were they taking the 'p' with Back in the USSR (Beach boys), Yer Blues, and Rocky Raccoon Scot? Revolution 9 was beyond stupid. Should have been one decent single album.
rocky racoon, dont pass me by, do it in the road, I will, Julia, birthday, yer blues, mother natures son, me and my monkey, sexy sadie, helter skelter, cry baby cry. A phenomenal sequence of songs. Funny, poignant, political, psychedelic, scary.....an amazing sequence of songs that werent even the hits off the record. It ii either their best or second best record in my opinion.
@@TheProgCorner 1. Back in the U.S.S.R. 2. Dear Prudence 3. Glass Onion 4. Guitar Weeps 5. Hapiness Bang bang shoot shoot 6. Matha my dear 7. Black Bird 8, Mother natures son 9. Helter skelter 10. revolution 11. Cry baby cry And that would be the superior to Abbey Road + we are leaving off many fine tracks. Track 11 is and underrated song in beatles catalogue, the falsetto is amazing.
Stop talking about Dark Side being overrated. It's as close to perfection as you will find in any album. I understand people are tired of it but it's never overrated.
The Answer IS INDEED Dark Side. It’s not even in the better half of PF albums. So bland. And odd that it was sandwiched in between two of their best albums, Obscured and WYWH
Most overrated albums to me are probably Pink Floyd's The Wall (there are just so many better PF albums), Metallica's Black Album (yeah it has the popular tracks but there are so many better stuff than freakin enter sandman and nothing else matters), bassicly anything by Kiss, never got them, and anything by Billie Eilish, she has some stunning tracks but most of the stuff is just mid as hell. And don't forget the Taylor Swift.. yeah.. just hype for nothing special. Albums that are considered overrated but I just love them with my whole heart and I can't agree with people: PF's Dark Side Of The Moon, Nevermind by Nirvana, Tyler The Creator's IGOR, Weyes Blood's Titanic Rising, Anything by Arctic Monkeys although I agree that "AM" is slightly overrated compared to the rest of their discography. Two albums that are hated that I consider the most underrated masterpieces: Ummagumma by Pink Floyd and Lulu by Lou Reed and Metallica
The Girl Is Mine and The Lady in My Life are meh songs, pretty skippable, but aside from over-exposure with the obvious cuts, the rest of the album is pretty amazing.
Fleetwood Mac - Rumours Anything by Wilco Weezer - Blue Album/Pinkerton Bad Brains - self-titled Nirvana - Nevermind The Beatles - Rubber Soul/Revolver Neil Young - Harvest David Bowie - Aladdin Sane Anything by Eagles Michael Jackson - Bad (Relied too much on vocal layering, very maximalist. Doesn't show off his vocals in the same way his first 2 proper solo albums did.) Pink Floyd - The Wall Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation (prefer everything else they released in the 80's, as well as the three-album run when Jim O’Rourke was a full-time member) Devo - Q: Are We Not Men (prefer their next 2 albums, Duty Now for the Future and Freedom of Choice, even their 'Hardcore' compilation) King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King (Everything that came after makes this look like child's play. Definitely a product of 1969.) And just to piss you off, Can's Ege Bamyasi, for Kanye clearing the "Sing Swan Song" sample, interpolating it for one of his worst early-period songs ("Drunk and Hot Girls"). Yes, this was back when the music mattered more than public image or whatever's going on with him mentally/financially/politically.)
If you want my opinions on overrated rap albums, it's definitely Wu-Tang, Beastie Boys, and Nas' debuts. But then again, I'm a child of 1999-2008, so a lot of the classics, and I mean "shit released before 1995" didn't do a lot for me.
I don’t understand the concept of being overrated. Music is good or bad for certain. But overrated implies bad music being hailed as good. Does that happen? If so, why? I feel like people use the word overrated to bag on something they have a thing against. Like AC/DC, back in black…. Overrated?…. Ridiculous. Anyone who asserts nonsense like this is clearly a dubious personage and should be avoided.
@@TheProgCorner My deepest apologies for the mis-apprehension. I was under the impression you were saying others had asserted BiB was overrated, not yourself. I find you neither nonsensical nor dubious.
As popularity grows and diminishes, things become more or less over-rated... for its time, Thriller was a phenomenon. It was still an era where "everyone" essentially still watched the same shows, listened the same music - our pop culture references were universal. And nothing was bigger than Jackson back then. But I definitely agree he's over rated, especially w/ the benefit of hindsight
I'm a massive Mike Oldfield fan, but the original Tubular Bells is overrated. I assume Mike agreed as he went back and fixed it with Tubular Bells 2003
Thriller got insane media promo for 2 years. Shoved down the publics throats constantly. Many artists would have had massive success with that much saturation.
Fully agree....I've never understood Beach Boys "Pet Sounds"... pop pablum at best....just nothing there... But MY vote for most OVERRATED ALBUM...and I will stand my ground on this forever....THE WHITE ALBUM......Maybe 3 songs are even mildly OK....it's almost like the Beatles spit on their fans as they laughed thinking those idiots will buy any turd we put out while pretending it's high art...it ain't art...it's a money grab... Be honest....let's say you're having a party, everybody's hammered and somebody puts The Whit Album on.... You'll be attacked with WHO PUT THAT S#!÷ ON!!. I tried making peace with this album, buying 3 or 4 copies, listening ( begrudgingly)...it just never took.. Dark Side of the Moon Overrated? Its an impossibility!! Love your channel,btw. .
Over the years (I am 68), there has been lots of bands and albums I did not like or didn´t do anything for me. There has only ever been one band and one particular album I have really hated. Close to the Edge by YES.
9:42 “just cause you’re playing a bunch of notes doesn’t make it good” That right there is my review of so many prog bands 😂 great video, btw! It’s really good to just shoot the shit.
If you enjoy Neutral Milk Hotel I HIGHLY recommend you check out the two albums from Olivia Tremor Control. They’re a band in the same Georgia/Louisiana circle as Neutral Milk Hotel. But they’re much more psychedelic pop and experimental. Both of their albums are MASTERPIECES
@@TheProgCorner there was a lot of great bands on that label. I might inquire if you've also heard of Spongebath Records? It's the small label Matt Mahaffey of sElf ran which had his music, sElf, Call Florence Pow (who became Apes & Androids) and a cool band called Fluid Ounces? among some others.
Phew! None of the prog rock classics included... You had me worried for a moment. And relax... But what would the most overrated prog rock album of all time be???
The Eagles biggest song 'Hotel California' is a rip off of Jethro Tull's 'We Used To Know'.....totally plagiarised. I suppose an album being 'overrated' doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad album.....and I think this is the case with Thriller. It's still a great album but not the best ever as it's sales might suggest.
I hear that about Thriller...I'm an older millennial and back in high school, I had the impression no one stopped listening to that album since it came out. It was...fucking annoying!
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band is BY FAR the most overrated album, I remember when it came out I and every R&R fan said this a bunch of crap they orchestrated out of their childhood . It good music but not earth changing like the marketing folks say. Electric Ladyland was a earth shaker
For me, the most overrated album is the Eagles’ Hotel California. While by no means a horrible album, it is very uneven. Songs like “Wasted Time” are just that. Again, it’s not horrible, but certainly not deserving of the accolades it has received over the years.
I agree with ‘Thriller’. Beyond the hits, it really lacks, in my opinion. The remaining two tracks just don’t do it for me. As a record, I find ‘Bad’ a LOT better, as well as ‘Off the Wall’. That said, I really love the title track and “Beat It”. However, they don’t touch “Dirty Diana” and “Smooth Criminal” on the follow-up.
Anyone else has watched several of Scott's videos, and is gradually becoming addicted to his style and feels sad when a day goes by without a new video?
I sure wish my wife felt the same way!!!!
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You betcha !
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once you get use to how he presents a topic its great.
For me personally, much isn't overrated but overplayed to the point of burnout, that's why I turned the radio off years ago
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Absolutely! Working in retail made me hate so many great songs because l heard them every day.
@@MrChopsticktech Sometimes three or four times a day. it's insane.
Growing up in the 70s, you couldn't get away from radio hits like 10cc's 'I'm Not in Love' or Doobie Bros' 'Black Water.' I grew to hate them because of the overplaying. Listening to them recently, they floored me with how good they were.
AOR radio stations is where I got my start into Metal, Prog, and Prog Metal. Classic Rock stations made me hate Fleetwood Mac, Boston, and the Eagles for overplaying them until I never wanted to hear them ever again.
I disagree about Back to Black. I think it was more "fashionable" than overrated. Amy W. had her own "retro" groove that was not built for large arenas. My respect for this album grew when I listened more closely to the arrangements, and they're fantastic. And her vocals are superb.
She definitely had a great set of pipes!!!
Agree. I think it’s a great album, as is its predecessor (‘Frank’).
For me Amy was a once in a generation talent. Definitely not overrated.
The only bad thing about Amy was the albums she didn't get to make due to being deceased and all that.
I was in high school when Back In Black came out and fashionable is an accurate description for me too. That album used to give me a headache.😂
A Prog Rock connection to Thriller is that Jon Anderson of Yes said in an interview that Quincy Jones told him that he and Michael Jackson got the riff on Billie Jean from a track on the The Friends Of Mr. Cairo, an album Jon made with Vangelis.
For me, I tend to think albums are overrated when they are over exposed. It’s hard for me to listen to Led Zeppelin IV, Dark Side of the Moon, Wish you were Here, Rumours, or anything by the Eagles. They get played so much. Not that they are not great albums; the media ruined them for me
Off the Wall is actually leagues ahead of Thriller.
Indeed!!!
I was going to post this same thing.
By a LOOOOOOONG mile. Get on the Floor alone is worth every track on Thriller.
10/10
"Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough" 🤘🏻
I love that Zon record behind you, I remember buying the album when it was released and it was pretty good. I agree that the followup to your number one is a better album! Awesome story about meeting Michael!!
I met A LOT of people working at the Foot Locker in the Aventura Mall in Miami. Kind of amazing actually.
@@TheProgCorner That's because everybody needs shoes! 😃
Great album indeed
Great show and observations ! Evaluating albums from another era reminds me of a comment made by Miles Davis when a journalist told him he had been listening to an album of his from 1948. He said that he thought Miles had improved greatly since then. "When did you first hear it ?" Miles asked. "About a year ago" said the journalist. " Man" said Miles, "you should have heard it in 1948 !"
Any Bruce Springsteen album is overrated!
I agree.
His first 3-4 were pretty great. Something changed around The River though.
His first three albums are great, so I disagree with prejudice.
He really threw in the kitchen sink. The E Street Band were cornball and made his tunes hard to listen to. His minimalist detour on Nebraska led to a whole new spasm of overrating because everyone was so excited to hear stripped-down Bruce.
Couldn't agree less
There’s a reason certain albums sell well. It’s because they’re good albums. Obviously other cultural influences play into this, but to sit here and call albums like nevermind, sgt. peppers, dark side of the moon overrated is a pointless conversation. For example, I agree wish you were here is ever so slightly better than dark side (although it’s close), but I acknowledge there are reasons for its greater success over wish you were here. In the case of Michael Jackson’s thriller, the only way it could not be considered “overrated”, in any way let alone the most overrated of all time, is if it were the best album of all time. And that, IS AN INCREDIBLY SUBJECTIVE TOPIC. What one considers to be the best of anything is bound to have controversy. Therefore, it is an impossibility for thriller not to be considered overrated by someone because of the threshold it is placed in. And because of the negative connotation that is associated with calling an album overrated, the only thing coming out of a conversation like this is turning people away from great music, like all of the previously mentioned albums. Success and quality should not be this heavily aligned!
It’s all subjective!!! It’s music.
Love to see the Frank Black album behind you Scott. He’s my absolute favourite singer / guitarist songwriter as his written work for all his solo stuff ( and the Catholics) and Pixies stuff testify.
An absolute genius. Teenager Of The Year is one of my favorite albums of all time.
Yep. Teenager of the Year is probably FB's finest hour.
@@DrOz-007 Dog In The Sand is a good one.
ditto! so many great tunes and that little rasp in his voice. first time i heard Calistan i was hooked. GREAT.
(i also , want to live on an Abstract Plane)
Honestly a good point. Just because something's overrated doesn't make it automatically terrible, it could just be decent but with an unjustified amount of hype and reputation to it. I do like some of the bigger singles off of Thriller, especially the title track, but I can see why the album on the whole doesn't quite match the sales figures. (And in my opinion his best song was Smooth Criminal, anyway, that's a hill I'm prepared to die on.)
As for albums I'm a bit more specifically versed in, I might have to be a bit controversial and say The Wall, at least among prog albums. I don't think it's bad, by any means, and there's a lot I really like and appreciate about the themes and some specific standout tracks. I just have a bit of a hard time wanting to go back to listen to it as a whole because I find the plot, while good in concept, a bit scattershot in execution, a bunch of songs are a bit boring to me even when they're necessary for the story to work, and that inflates the run time a bit past what I'd be willing to put up with. That, and the bitter irony of an album about the dangers of self-isolation only driving Roger Waters further from the people around him. It's still a really good album, but coming after a string of truly great albums it's a bit underwhelming for its reputation. There's still the makings of a great album in there, it's just not quite finished. (As unpopular an opinion as it is I find myself going back to the Gilmour-led albums more than The Wall, maybe I'm just weird but there's some good tracks buried on those.) That said, you can't argue with Comfortably Numb. But hey, I've seen plenty of people be harsher than me about The Wall, so, if enough people call something overrated, does it cease to be overrated in some sense? Worth pondering, I suppose.
The Wall was my first thought for this episode but it morphed into a MJ thing.
your take on The Wall almost matches mine and many others.
Everything by the Clash, they were good but personally ive always preferred The Damned who are so much more diverse and criminally underrated (and much better musicians) im sure ill get some hate for that, what can i say Scott, im feeling inspired:-), also can't stand ELPs Brain Salad surgery.........thats it ive done it now haven't i, great video as always
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Have to agree, a lot of people are fanatical about the clash personally I don't get it. Damned were always more entertaining.
Agree--Brain Salad Surgery = unlistenable.
The stranglers>the damned>>>>>>the clash.
@doscwolny2221 All great bands!!!
It figures that it took a dance move to start the feeding frenzy. Says a lot about pop music. All those boy bands and Britney Spears etc were always more about dancing than they were about music….not comparing MJ to any of those…he had more talent in his pinky finger than most huge pop stars.
Yes, he did!!!!
Your opinion on dark side of the moon being overrated and not their best album is so accurate! I think animals and wish you were here are both perfect albums with incredible depth and meaning putting them above dark side. Love the energy and vibes from Canada 🇨🇦
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Big albums often reflect the artists height of popularity rather than talent.
First one that comes to mind for me is Steely Dan Aja. I've tried to like this album, but I just can't like it as much as I try.
I have always thought that it has a generic elevator music quality to it, so perfectly performed by great session players that it lacks some needed humanity. It is too cool for school.
Royal Scam is my jam…
I love aja great steely dan album I am a huge fan of jazz
Yeah, Steely Dan is for listeners who think Rock needs sophistication (it doesn't). Consequently, the Dan's records are Rock that wants to be Jazz but not Fusion. Nevertheless, I've always though 'Rikki Don't Lose That Number' is fantastic.
@@alzo7891 I can handle their greatest hits because they do have some songs I like but listening to an entire studio album is too much for me.
Nirvana never mind is a great choice
Overrated band
The right band with the right album at the right time. Context is important
Exactly.
First Album and In Utero were better. In fact Incesticide was better. imo.
Nirvana should always be praised for shutting down all those horrible guys who look like girls and treat women like crap poser bands like motley spew and poison.
Just subscribed to you because I love learning more about groups and finding about artists I’ve never heard before.
Thank you, Kevin!!!! You’re the best!!!
Fun Fact: The album "Thriller" unseated at #1 was "Business As Usual," by Men at Work (which is an awesome album, totally not overrated at all.)
That is correct!!!!! What a great album.
I remember reading a long time ago that Def Leppard’s Pyromania unseated Thriller at the #1 spot for maybe a week.
@@jeffmelchior8573 This is incorrect. "Pyromania" only got to # 2. "Hysteria" got to #1, but that was in 1988.
What is your take on Barclay James Harvest? Prog or not prog. Good bad or indifferent? You have introduced me to some killer sounds. Appreciate your kids. Peace.
Definitely Prog, through maybe Prog Lite?
Familiarity breeds contempt brother! The more praise an album gets, the more the worms come out to tear it down! Overraters are overrated!❤
Michael!!!!! How are you!!!!!
Waiting for someone to do a “Ten Most Overrated CZcams Channels” episode…
@@TheProgCorneri think your both safe. Both entertaining, knowlegable and allow honest dissent/discussion.
Top of the tree as far as im concerned.
Hey Scott, I've watched a few of your videos and have come to the conclusion that you are the Scotty Kilmer of prog rock. That's cool. I wish I could be as animated as you and Scotty Kilmer, but I just can't. Keep up the good work!!!
You are not the first to refer what I do to Scotty Kilmer - which is weird because I had never heard of him. But watching him…yeah, I kinda see it.
Wana be starting something' mama koosa soul makoosa by Manu dibango. That's what they're saying I believe. Check out the song it's pretty funky
I love it. Always sounds so cool. But I never knew what he was saying…
Anything and everything by Guns N Roses and Bon Jovi.
More seriously, overrated = overhyped and/or overplayed...the classic YMMV
Hard to argue with that.
I never got the Guns and Roses thing. I never thought they were that good. The playing was average but went well with the average arrangements. And I couldn't stand Axel Rose's vocals. And Bon Jovi. Awful. I always thought of Bon Jovi as corporate rock's 80's' Hair Band.
@@user-qb1sm3rk9r Yeah, I agree with you - they were an alternative to the hair bands.
@@roy421000 There's a clip of me performing in our local bar dressed in Amish attire and singing Adele while playing banjo. Its not horrible but my brother said it sounded like Axel Rose trying to sing Adele. That was so mean but kind of spot on too. It wasn't too good
@@chazworm3 Your brother's description of your singing sounded like something I would say... Is the clip available to see?
Maybe it's just me but I heavily dislike the term "overrated" and find it overused. Strikes me as conceited since it's about thinking that you know whether or not something deserves the acclaim it gets and I think that saying "this isn't for me and I can take solace in the fact that it's for someone else" is a far more mature way of going about things.
Yeah, but did you forget that this is CLICKBAIT WEEK!!!!
I find the "overrated *band*" lists pointless and frustrating because most people have only a cursory and incomplete knowledge of a bands catalog. I've seen reaction videos of middle aged guys in AC/ DC t shirts doing first time reactions to Black Sabbath or Queen. Some bands are known for only a few songs, and those will likely be accessible ones that get played on the radio. There's so many bands whose best songs are hidden away on their albums that rarely get airplay. If all people knew of The Beatles was She Loves You and Day Tripper then most people would think them highly overrated.
Overrated *albums* lists are a bit better because there's a higher chance that people have actually listened to it all the way through and formed an opinion.
"Overrated" and "ahead of its time" are both cringeworthy. For me, ahead of its time translates to epitome of its time.
Totally agree. Thriller just has too many skippable songs to warrant its sales. Just came across your channel today, and though I mainly listen to metal, I’m digging your format. Subscribed.
THANK YOU!!! That’s awesome!!!! 🙏
Pet Sounds is the one
I agree, massively over rated as far as I am concerned. However, all that means is that I haven't learned to apprecate it!
Good way to look at it.
i've never been a beach boys fan myself, but kept hearing the pet sounds mantra, so yeah, i caved in and listened to it online. yeah, overrated.
They thought that they created a masterpiece when they recorded Pet Sounds. That is, until they heard Sgt. Pepper.
@@captaincarl8230 Wasn't that the album Smile?
Anything by Queen. Great band but their albums are a chore to get through.
Anything Bruce Springsteen has done
No doubt.
Jeez you just slated half my teenage record collection! ;)
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Nirvana Nevermind and In Uturo are my picks for overrated. But I do like their Sub Pop debut album Bleach, and I like some of the Foo Fighters stuff.
Being a HUGE fan of Scream I really enjoyed Nirvana. Foo Fighters not as much…
@@TheProgCornerDave seems like a lovely human. He’s supports new acts, respects the classic artists, and draws nary a negative word. But I find FF’s music dull as dishwater. 😂
Hey, he’s living his dream. Good for him!!! Less deserving have achieved similar fame - so it could be worse!!!
I think all 3 Nirvana albums have merit. There's a consistent quality in the tracks.
To me, "Off the Wall" is a much better record. Actually, "Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough", as recorded on that album, is the very best thing Michael Jackson ever made as a solo artist in my book.
I agree!!!
That England LP behind you is definitely one Underrated album.
Absolutely!!!!! So good!!!!
I think to talk about GnR’s Appetite you have to look at it in the context of the time it came out when MTV was drowning in synth pop and hair metal bands( a few of which were good), but nonetheless, Appetite felt like a breath of fresh air at the time. I also think the deep cuts on that album are better than most of the singles that came off the record. In retrospect I still think it’s their best album and I do still like it, but not as much as I used to, so maybe it hasn’t aged very well.
It definitely stood out at the time. They were kind of a breath of fresh air after all the garbage coming out of LA…
Thriller is a perfect culmination of the times. It's a Quincy Jones album with MJ on vocals. They were at their zenith at the time with the rest of the session players.
It is beautifully produced.
Some credit must be given to songwriter Rod Temperton too. Perhaps more on Off The Wall than Thriller.
@@vordman Without Heatwave there is no Thriller. Temperton could get anyone a hit.
Love seeing Zon get some love on the show even if it's just in the background.
I cant stand Fleetwood Mac after the Peter Greene era
There you have it!!! Like a whole different band!!!!
I also prefer the Peter green era
Christine mcvie was a better singer and musician than Stevie nicks
@@user-qs6xd3rk9z Then Play On. That's the good stuff.
Even that cool "Mama say mama sa..." part in P.Y.T. isn't that cool since he ripped it off wholesale from “Soul Makossa” by Cameroonian musician Manu Dibango.
Dear Mr. Prog Corner, I enjoy your channel and respect your opinions, but the most overrated album of all time is Tales from Topographic Oceans.
Oh no!!! (I get it though. I really do.)
@@TheProgCorner Ban him!!!! Lol!👍😎
100%agree. Thought this was a prog show? 🥸😁
It doesn’t get enough respect, and never gets old to these ears. Having said that, it took me years to get into.
Bad is a way better record! Agree 100 percent my friend!
Very cool to see the classic New England debut album in the background.
Yeah I love that album!
Great episode. I see Rites at Dawn behind you, I adore that album.
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Rites at dawn - tremendous album
Thriller is kind of like the Mona Lisa of pop music. If you go to the Louvre, people are crowding to see and photograph the Mona Lisa. No other painting attracts anything like as much attention. This is not because it's the best painting of all time but because it is the most famous painting of all time. Its status as the most well-known has perpetuated its popularity. Thriller has continued to be the best-selling album of all time simply because it is the best-selling album of all time. Having said that, a bit harsh on Beat It!
It was all in good fun!!!
Sorry, but I have to go with Pet Sounds. Often called the greatest album of all time, and it's actually bad even by Beach Boys standards, which is not a high bar.
Love it!!!
It's their best album with 4 of their best songs. By the standards of the 60's it's a great album.
@@bobturnley2787By the standards of their contemporaries. It is the worst of the great 60s albums. All the fancy production techniques can't fix twee songs
@@sbwlearning1372 Aftermath and Fresh Cream are good albums, not great. Revolver and Blonde on Blonde both have one great song, otherwise hugely overrated. It wasn't the best album of the decade but there was nothing better in 1966.
You are so right- aside from the great 'Billie Jean,' the album should be called 'Filler.' The LP that Rock critics adore is 'Forever Changes' by Love. Try as I might, I don't hear it. BTW, the best Stones album is 'Let it Bleed.'
To this day, I still don’t have any Michael Jackson in my collection. And although I’ve thought about getting ‘ Thriller ‘ in the past, I just couldn’t go there due to its burnout play. Speaking of burnout, I get why people are tired of albums like Dark Side, but I still think Rumors is exceptional. It rocketed its way to stardom because its overall appeal to the masses. Rumors is one of those that people enjoyed without even being a fan of Fleetwood Mac. However, I’m definitely into the early Peter Green material.
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It was titled "Rumours". 3 of the band could spell.
Kind of like Meddle vs DSOTM, or Revolver vs Sgt Pepper you could argue its predecessor was better.
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I prefer prince over Michael Jackson more talented musician
One thing to keep in mind: there’s a difference between being overplayed and overrated. I remember when I first actually went out and bought a copy of Led Zeppelin 4 back in the 80’s, as I sat there listening, I found myself wishing I could actually experience this music for the first time. Every song was absolutely brilliant, but the were ALL perennial staples of the mainstream Rock radio of the day, to the point where I’d already grown up hearing everyone of these songs my whole life, I was intimately familiar with every note, I didn’t need to actually buy the album, it was already pretty much engrained my DNA.
I agree with you wholeheartedly, but I’m sure that I never heard ‘Four Sticks’ on any radio ( Even the ultra progressive WOWI in the early/mid 70s) That album shaped me
@@timmillan6701 It might not have been played as often as a lot of Zeppelin songs, but I definitely know for sure that I’d heard it on the radio because I specifically remember when I got to that song on the album thinking “Oh, this is that Zep song I *don’t* really like that much.” (My appreciation for it has grown since, but it’s still probably the closest thing IV has to a weak track)
While Michael Jackson has never been my cup of tea, I still would rather listen to Thriller than most of the crap that passes for pop music nowadays.
That’s a fact!!!
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells - overated or not?
Maybe slightly…
Any eagles album
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Hotel California is superb.
@johnbrowne2170 The eagles used to open for Jethro Tull. Tull has a song called "we used to know" not too long after their time with Tull they came out with the song "Hotel California". Very coincidentally, their song has the same chord progression as "we used to know".
@@williambaldridge1203 Hotel California is a better song. That's all that counts. Everyone steals. Have you ever heard Hip Hop music?
@johnbrowne2170 I agree, it's a better song, Even Ian Anderson, the guy who wrote.
We used to know, says that it's a better song. But that's just one song. if you've ever seen the Eagles live and you think they are great.Then you haven't seen very many bands.
It’s depends on HOW something is overrated. Is it in terms of popularity, or is it in terms of its innovation? In that regard, yes, I do think Pet Sounds is not the monumental work of art that it’s often considered. I agree about thriller. Good album, but nothing spectacular. I would also say, that Princes popularity far exceeds his actual talent, but that’s another story.
Prince? Hmmmm. When I saw him live it changed my opinion of him. This was right at the time of 1999 - right before he blew up. I was impressed. But I’m easily influenced…
@@TheProgCorner He puts on a great show. And that goes a long way.
"Off the Wall", was a far superior album than, "Thriller!" Great album!
Yes!!!
It was, Rock With You and the title track are amazing. Totally era defining. Thriller was rubbish in comparison, the videos made it appear better than it was.
I agree. Put that on a few times and can let is roll. Thriller is like 80s radio without variety.
Glad to see the point made about Off the Wall - great album and superior to Thriller in my opinion. I think those videos for Thriller with their enormous productions had a lot to do with making Thriller so popular at the time.
Hey, Scott. I was surprised to see that New England album behind you. Hadn't thought of them in ages. There are a few cool songs on there. Thanks for the reminder.
I love that record!!!
@@CJBW335 That is one of my favorites on the album.
I actually prefer Atom Heart Mother, Wish You Were Here, Meddle and Ummagumma over Dark Side Of The Moon. Call me crazy
I like ‘Obscured by Clouds’ better than DSOTM. Heard that one too many times.
You are crazy.Atom Heart Mother is PF's worst album. All the others are very good.
@@johnbrowne2170 well myself and many other Pink Floyd fans (NotesReviews) consider it their favorite. Also their first album to go to #1
Atom Heart Mother is their best!
@@MrChopsticktech Dark Side, Ummagumma, Meddle, Wish and two film soundtracks are better. Only 2 good songs on Atom Heart.
I think most of these albums come into this category not because they are bad but because they are overplayed to death . I don’t care if I never hear Rumours again ever .
My 5 are ..............
#1) U2 - Joshua Tree
#2) Taylor Swift - 1984
#3) Guns 'n Roses - Appetite for Destruction
#4) David Bowie - Blackstar
#5) Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
I kinda get Blackstar being there…
U2 are probably the most overrated band of all time.
@@johnhoran9840 It's not widely known that the guitarist's nickname was originally "The Hedge"but that obviously became ridiculous after all of his hair fell out over a long weekend.
That's what overusing delay pedals does to you.
Blackstar? I guess you don't like the Eno era...
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I'd pick Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart as the most overrated album ever. It's an intentionally wacky experiment to make an album as painful to listen as possible. It's just musically terrible. I don't believe anyone actually likes it, people who say they like it are just admiring it for it's novelty value.
-Pet Sounds by The Beach Boys. It has two or three great songs, but to me most of it is just okay.
-Dark Side Of The Moon. It's mostly an album of inoffensive and accessible soft rock at heart, but because it's dressed up with "meaningful" lyrics and cool sound effects it's considered a work of art. And don't tell me I need to be high to appreciate it best, that's like saying you have a girlfriend who's prettiest when you're drunk.
Led Zeppelin 1- okay it was very influential but over the years I've become aware of just how much of it is unoriginal. Some songs like Dazed and Confused, Babe I'm Gonna Leave You and How Many More Times , Communication Breakdown are reworkings of other peoples songs. Black Mountain Side is a complete ripoff of a Bert Jansch song. And with a couple of admitted covers like You Shook Me and I Can't Quit You Baby, that doesn't leave much original songwriting left.
-Beatles "White Album" - I know they were experimenting but there's just too many silly throwaway songs.
-Queen Greatest Hits albums. A lot of "fans" these days merely own the Greatest Hits albums and enjoy watching Freddie the Showman onstage. 1970s Queen albums are full of obscure gems that a lot of fans seem to have never heard. Like Black Sabbath, Rush, Yes and Genesis, it's the 1970s work that has them at their best.
Paranoid by Black Sabbath. I *do* think this is a great album, the trouble is it totally overshadows the other Black Sabbath albums. The first six Sabbath albums are great. They were actually getting into prog metal territory with Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage. It's like people only heaping praise on Revolver by The Beatles while ignoring the other albums.
Trout Mask Replica is a mess!!! But I kinda like it…
I agree about Trout Mask Replica, it's one of those albums I've tried to "get" for decades, and just can't. I also agree about Led Zeppelin's debut, it's practically a cover album (Led Zeppelin II is half covers as well). I'd also throw in Nevermind the Bullocks by The Sex Pistols. It has 4 great tracks on it and the rest I never need to hear again.
However, those are offset by your takes on Pet Sounds and Dark Side, which are insane to me.
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I know!!!! That’s the whole reason I did all clickbait stuff this week!!! So close!!!
Pet Sounds is my candidate...
Yes indeed.
And here I thought that CCR diss yesterday was enough of a nuke!
I don’t dislike Michael Jackson but I never caught on to him as much as some, so this doesn’t bother me at all lol.
Didn't expect that but I sure don't disagree with your pick.
Gotcha!!!!
Long standing Beatles fan can't understand why the White album is highly rated. Were they taking the 'p' with Back in the USSR (Beach boys), Yer Blues, and Rocky Raccoon Scot? Revolution 9 was beyond stupid. Should have been one decent single album.
rocky racoon, dont pass me by, do it in the road, I will, Julia, birthday, yer blues, mother natures son, me and my monkey, sexy sadie, helter skelter, cry baby cry. A phenomenal sequence of songs. Funny, poignant, political, psychedelic, scary.....an amazing sequence of songs that werent even the hits off the record. It ii either their best or second best record in my opinion.
I agree on some, and musically even on a couple of the ones I mentioned. We'll have to disagree on others though.
The White Album as a single disc? What would the track list look like?
@@TheProgCorner 1. Back in the U.S.S.R. 2. Dear Prudence 3. Glass Onion 4. Guitar Weeps 5. Hapiness Bang bang shoot shoot 6. Matha my dear 7. Black Bird 8, Mother natures son 9. Helter skelter 10. revolution 11. Cry baby cry And that would be the superior to Abbey Road + we are leaving off many fine tracks. Track 11 is and underrated song in beatles catalogue, the falsetto is amazing.
I have to disagree the white album is my favorite Beatles album I wouldn't change a darn thing on thar album perfect album
Great critique Scot, much insight! ❤️ and Thank You!! 👏👏👏
Thank you so much!!!!
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Stop talking about Dark Side being overrated. It's as close to perfection as you will find in any album. I understand people are tired of it but it's never overrated.
Dull and uninspired. All atmosphere and bland composition. Absolutely overrated.
@@johndudly7069 Over 50 million copies sold worldwide. You are a tiny minority. So tiny your opinion doesn't matter.
@johnbrowne2170 I can't help that my tastes are more sophisticated than the rest of you dullerds.
@johnbrowne2170 I can't help that my tastes are more sophisticated then the rest of you dullerds.
The Answer IS INDEED Dark Side. It’s not even in the better half of PF albums. So bland. And odd that it was sandwiched in between two of their best albums, Obscured and WYWH
Hi Scot, do you think it seems back in 80+90 that most of the artist tried to have five or more as singles from there lp😮
Definitely seemed that way!!!!
Mine has to be The Clash- London Calling.
Ouch!!!!
Agreed !! and I'm a clash fan. It's rubbish. Sandinista and anything which gathers their singles is all you need. Combat rock is good too
Most overrated albums to me are probably Pink Floyd's The Wall (there are just so many better PF albums), Metallica's Black Album (yeah it has the popular tracks but there are so many better stuff than freakin enter sandman and nothing else matters), bassicly anything by Kiss, never got them, and anything by Billie Eilish, she has some stunning tracks but most of the stuff is just mid as hell. And don't forget the Taylor Swift.. yeah.. just hype for nothing special.
Albums that are considered overrated but I just love them with my whole heart and I can't agree with people: PF's Dark Side Of The Moon, Nevermind by Nirvana, Tyler The Creator's IGOR, Weyes Blood's Titanic Rising, Anything by Arctic Monkeys although I agree that "AM" is slightly overrated compared to the rest of their discography.
Two albums that are hated that I consider the most underrated masterpieces: Ummagumma by Pink Floyd and Lulu by Lou Reed and Metallica
Weyes Blood. Good call. A “no” from me on that!!!
Hi my Prog Rock Professor Scot!! So nice to see you and learn more! 🙋♀️ Lisa is present today! ❤️🎸🎶
Awesome!!! Thanks, Lisa!!!!
The Girl Is Mine and The Lady in My Life are meh songs, pretty skippable, but aside from over-exposure with the obvious cuts, the rest of the album is pretty amazing.
I think it’s a good album…
Perhaps a hit of blotter acid might change you opinion about Sgt Pepper.
Lucy in the Sky isn't the only song about LSD. The whole album is!
Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
Anything by Wilco
Weezer - Blue Album/Pinkerton
Bad Brains - self-titled
Nirvana - Nevermind
The Beatles - Rubber Soul/Revolver
Neil Young - Harvest
David Bowie - Aladdin Sane
Anything by Eagles
Michael Jackson - Bad (Relied too much on vocal layering, very maximalist. Doesn't show off his vocals in the same way his first 2 proper solo albums did.)
Pink Floyd - The Wall
Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation (prefer everything else they released in the 80's, as well as the three-album run when Jim O’Rourke was a full-time member)
Devo - Q: Are We Not Men (prefer their next 2 albums, Duty Now for the Future and Freedom of Choice, even their 'Hardcore' compilation)
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King (Everything that came after makes this look like child's play. Definitely a product of 1969.)
And just to piss you off, Can's Ege Bamyasi, for Kanye clearing the "Sing Swan Song" sample, interpolating it for one of his worst early-period songs ("Drunk and Hot Girls"). Yes, this was back when the music mattered more than public image or whatever's going on with him mentally/financially/politically.)
Wow!!! Very interesting!!!
If you want my opinions on overrated rap albums, it's definitely Wu-Tang, Beastie Boys, and Nas' debuts. But then again, I'm a child of 1999-2008, so a lot of the classics, and I mean "shit released before 1995" didn't do a lot for me.
@evanwright9016 I love that first Wu Tang album…
Beatles "Revolver" very over rated easily. Any U2 album . Thiller should not b overrated!!!. Blasphemy 😮
Revolver? Now that’s blasphemy!!!! 😂😂❤️❤️
I'm the same I like it of course but there would be at least 3 to 4 other Beatles albums I think are a little better !
Wow, these are terrifically bad takes. Where do people get these crazy opinions?
I don’t understand the concept of being overrated. Music is good or bad for certain. But overrated implies bad music being hailed as good. Does that happen? If so, why? I feel like people use the word overrated to bag on something they have a thing against. Like AC/DC, back in black…. Overrated?…. Ridiculous. Anyone who asserts nonsense like this is clearly a dubious personage and should be avoided.
Me? Dubious? Why so aggressive? I think aggressive people should be avoided.
@@TheProgCorner My deepest apologies for the mis-apprehension. I was under the impression you were saying others had asserted BiB was overrated, not yourself. I find you neither nonsensical nor dubious.
I think it's more of a case of liking stuff a bit but not really seeing why people go crazy about it
As popularity grows and diminishes, things become more or less over-rated... for its time, Thriller was a phenomenon.
It was still an era where "everyone" essentially still watched the same shows, listened the same music - our pop culture references were universal. And nothing was bigger than Jackson back then. But I definitely agree he's over rated, especially w/ the benefit of hindsight
Obscured by Clouds is my favorite PF.
I LOVE IT.
I'm a massive Mike Oldfield fan, but the original Tubular Bells is overrated. I assume Mike agreed as he went back and fixed it with Tubular Bells 2003
Have you ever listen to Grandaddy? the software slump album?
Fantastic band. Their best album!!!
Thriller got insane media promo for 2 years. Shoved down the publics throats constantly. Many artists would have had massive success with that much saturation.
Without a doubt.
This is easy..Pet Sounds…
Okay!!!!
Who's Next and Led Zep IV are definitely NOT overrated. Both are amazing and worthy of the praise they get.
maybe cause every other song on Pandora is from Dark Side of the Moon, I could die happy never hearing it again.
Yep!!!
Off the Wall is MJ’s BEST! So pure, focused, groovy, and sharp. Better than Thriller for sure! 😊
Absolutely!!!
Fully agree....I've never understood Beach Boys "Pet Sounds"... pop pablum at best....just nothing there...
But MY vote for most OVERRATED ALBUM...and I will stand my ground on this forever....THE WHITE ALBUM......Maybe 3 songs are even mildly OK....it's almost like the Beatles spit on their fans as they laughed thinking those idiots will buy any turd we put out while pretending it's high art...it ain't art...it's a money grab...
Be honest....let's say you're having a party, everybody's hammered and somebody puts The Whit Album on....
You'll be attacked with WHO PUT THAT S#!÷ ON!!.
I tried making peace with this album, buying 3 or 4 copies, listening ( begrudgingly)...it just never took..
Dark Side of the Moon Overrated?
Its an impossibility!!
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The White Album, eh? It is bloated. There is filler. But when it hits, it hits pretty hard!!!! Cry Baby Cry is a favorite of mine…
Dark Side Of The Moon, i try and try, replaying it to understand and come up stumped everytime, just don't get it. I'll try again though one day.
It’s a good album but…
Hysteria...just awful sounding...it's indescribably horrific...all of it sounds the same.
Just awful.
I agree with you in most of them, but I rather think that some bands are overrated. Nirvana, Oasis, Guns n Roses, for example.
Indeed!!!
Over the years (I am 68), there has been lots of bands and albums I did not like or didn´t do anything for me. There has only ever been one band and one particular album I have really hated. Close to the Edge by YES.
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9:42 “just cause you’re playing a bunch of notes doesn’t make it good”
That right there is my review of so many prog bands 😂 great video, btw! It’s really good to just shoot the shit.
Exactly!!!!!
It's a toss up between _Close to the Edge_ and _The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway_ for me.
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If you enjoy Neutral Milk Hotel I HIGHLY recommend you check out the two albums from Olivia Tremor Control. They’re a band in the same Georgia/Louisiana circle as Neutral Milk Hotel. But they’re much more psychedelic pop and experimental. Both of their albums are MASTERPIECES
I love OTC and all of those “Elephant Six” bands!!! Elf Power, Apples In Stereo, Beulah, Of Montreal, etc.
@@TheProgCorner niiiice. I honestly need to listen to more. I only really know OTC, NMH, and Of Montreal
Saw them and the Music Tapes in Portland Or in ‘99! Crazy show!
@@paulayers1111 checkout The Apples in Stereo! especially their last 2 albums. Sugary Sweet ELO inspired Psych-PowerPop
@@TheProgCorner there was a lot of great bands on that label. I might inquire if you've also heard of Spongebath Records? It's the small label Matt Mahaffey of sElf ran which had his music, sElf, Call Florence Pow (who became Apes & Androids) and a cool band called Fluid Ounces? among some others.
Phew! None of the prog rock classics included... You had me worried for a moment. And relax... But what would the most overrated prog rock album of all time be???
The Wall?
@@TheProgCorner Great answer!👍😎
The Eagles biggest song 'Hotel California' is a rip off of Jethro Tull's 'We Used To Know'.....totally plagiarised.
I suppose an album being 'overrated' doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad album.....and I think this is the case with Thriller. It's still a great album but not the best ever as it's sales might suggest.
I hear that about Thriller...I'm an older millennial and back in high school, I had the impression no one stopped listening to that album since it came out. It was...fucking annoying!
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band is BY FAR the most overrated album, I remember when it came out I and every R&R fan said this a bunch of crap they orchestrated out of their childhood . It good music but not earth changing like the marketing folks say. Electric Ladyland was a earth shaker
For me, the most overrated album is the Eagles’ Hotel California. While by no means a horrible album, it is very uneven. Songs like “Wasted Time” are just that. Again, it’s not horrible, but certainly not deserving of the accolades it has received over the years.
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Have to disagree with Dark Side of the Moon there Scot, I think it's just been overplayed.🤩
That probably contributes…
Cool MJ story. Off the Wall is a way better album. Billie Jean, though - what a killer song. Beat it is great because it gave us Weird Al’s Eat It.
Good point about Eat It.
Bruce and Meryl have been living off the 70s and early 80s for over 40 years
So cool the story at the end! And gotta love the way you end the video. Best clickbait of my life!
I appreciate that!!!
I agree with ‘Thriller’. Beyond the hits, it really lacks, in my opinion. The remaining two tracks just don’t do it for me. As a record, I find ‘Bad’ a LOT better, as well as ‘Off the Wall’.
That said, I really love the title track and “Beat It”. However, they don’t touch “Dirty Diana” and “Smooth Criminal” on the follow-up.
Anything by Rammstein, Creed & Alterbridge. Michael Jackson music started going downhill with "Bad"
I liked Bad. But Dangerous was terrible.