Nitto Ridge Grappler VS Toyo RT | Why I Switched
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- Trying to Decide between the Toyo Open Country RT and Nitto Ridge Grappler? I've been running these two for several years now on two different trucks, and wanted to share my personal thoughts about these tires. I cover noise, wear, traction, and overall value in this video to help make your decision a little easier. After logging thousands of miles on these tires the Nitto Ridge Grappler has become my tire of choice with low noise, and great wear. Both of these tires are solid options for your diesel truck.
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Perfect timing. My Ridge Grapplers are on their way to my preferred local tire shop. I've always wondered which pressure to follow also, thanks for the tip.
I’m glad I saw this video! You always have great points and explanation of what your doing and because of that I just ordered me a set of the ridge grapplers-37/11.50R20 for my 2012 2500 Cummins thanks again for video
Nitto Exo Grappler AWT work amazing on my Ram 2500 MegaCab. Work great off road and have had a long tread life already.. about half tread at 35k miles. Also pretty quiet on the highway. They also retain towing abilities being an E rated tire.
I definitely prefer the Nitto over the Toyo in The hybrid, but I prefer the Toyo M/T over the Trail Grapper.
Thanks. Been looking at new tires for my 2020 Titan Pro 4x and you confirmed what I thought, the Nitto’s.
After multiple solid reviews I just ordered the Nittos in 33 x 18 for my Silverado 2wd 1500. Note that both these tires feature different sidewalk tread patterns on both sides to choose from. Good review
Haha I keep finding you in all these videos for customizing my truck haha seems like we got the same taste haha love your truck! I checked it out
Just put the Grapps on my Rebel. Love the look, love the drive and couldn't be happier with them.
I’ve got the toyos on my Ford truck and nitto on the dodge truck. Been happy with both. Had the toyos the longest, so we’ll see how nitto does in the long run
Very helpful video...I have 35" Toyo R/Ts on my lifted Jeep wrangler, but my tires are due for replacement soon, and currently shopping around, and leaning toward Nitto's or even Yokohamas.
Good info! You covered all the key points. Ran the Toyo MT 33x12.5x20 on a tundra got 70k miles towing a travel trailer and light off road. I ran the RT's. Both were excellent. Once they wear - you will lose traction so take it easy on starts if in inclement weather. Now I have an F250 and have worn out the Michelin AT's2 and looking for a replacement. Thanks for the info this helps me make a decision.
On my second set of 37" NRG's Amazing tires on my Dirtymax. Looking to drop to 35's for many reasons. These things wear really well. I appreciate your review!
Very detailed and solid review. Excellent video!
I like the Ridge Grapplers, but had to ensure they stayed at 65 PSI on the fronts for my Dodge 2500. Any lower pressure and they would wear funny on each tread shoulder block. The alignment was spot on.
I’m currently running Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs and prefer them over the Ridge Grapplers.
Thanks for the air pressure recommendation. That’s a big cause of traction and wear complaints
I've got 70,400 miles on my 33x12.50r20 ridge grapplers rotated every 5k and they are still in great shape. 2019 f150 I live on 2 miles of Oklahoma dirt roads and commute 40 miles one way to work. Tow a 6k pound boat every weekend during the summer these tires are great.
I’m running the 37x12.5.18 ridge grapplers with methods also on my 20 Silverado 2500 with the FabTech 6in lift. I’m also very happy. Just been playing around with the psi to find the sweet spots for front and back.
This review sealed it for me. I was hesitant due to road noise. I had Terra Grapplers previously and they were quiet and wore evenly over time. I wanted more off road prowess with grip and the Ridge Grapplers I think will do the job. Good review!
Did you buy them?
Thumbs up and sub’d just because you mentioned how to correctly choose Operating pressures based on load management tables.
There is so much misinformation on the forums and FB, it’s really nice to see someone mention the scientific way according to manufacturer specs.
I’m all about education and proper information over here!
I have had two sets of 35 inch nitto ridge grapplers. I average about 70,000 miles per set. Very quite and nice ridding. It tows very well also. Both sets, the rear tires felt loose for first 2000 miles until they break in. I contacted nitto on recommended tire pressure for 2011 Duramax hd2500 and they recommended I run 57 psi in front and 67 psi in rear on my Duramax. I love these tires
Ride Grappler 33/12 20/10 on my 2017 Tundra 4 1/2 BDS ,Fox Coiled Over. 3 trips New Jersey to Ottawa Canada “ Sweat “ . Love. You can’t wrong.
Helped me make up my mind. I’ve been going back and forth between the two. Innov8 & Nitto for me.
Going with the good stuff! 🙌
Raymond, how do you like the Innov8 wheels?
I can't decide between the G500 simulated beadlocks or smooth lip. I'm also struggling if I should get Raw or polished finish. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Thx
Nitto's
A tire that addresses all the shortfalls of the ridge Grappler and yet no one seems to ever talk about is the EXO Grapplers. It's designed for HD trucks and has mountain/snowflake winter rating. I live in bc with lots of rain and some snow and every one I ask with ridge graps says they are sketchy in the wet. For this reason I bought the EXO Grapplers for my 2018 F350 6.7 to retain the aggressive looks of both the Toyo RT and ridge Grapplers but also that piece of Mind knowing they're going to perform well in the wet slushy conditions.
I have on my 2008 Dodge ram 2500 mega cab I put 34 1/2 x 12“ Nitto ridge grappler‘s I feel like they’re probably my favorite tire ever like ever some thing about those side lugs just puts me in a good mood
Great tyre love the Ridge Grappler run 295x70x17 on my 200 series Cruiser in Australia
I've been doing my homework my current tire is the Toyo AT II Xtreme 35/12.5/20 on a gen 4 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins HD Turbo diesel 6.7. I admit was wanting a m/t at first but really needed a hybrid for this daily driver mostly highway miles, weekend hauler/off-road. So thanks for your video I feel like I've found the tire that best suits my needs the Nitto Ridge Grappler.
I think those tires are complete junk. They always break loose and spin with the slightest moisture
I’m about to have a set of 35x12.5 Grapplers mounted on my 19’ Tundra.. I’m really looking forward to experiencing all this tire has to offer both on & off-road. Thanks for the informative vid 🙏🏽☺️
How are they doing? Thinking about getting some for mine. My biggest thing is tread life. How have they been holding up?
Dusty, I have a 2012 Tundra CrewMax. How much lift do you have to fit your 35’s? (I have a 3” Icon adjustable setup)
Great review man! 🤙🏻
Another great video, Andrew!
Thank you!
Good info as always, thank you.
I love your videos man!!! I have a 2005 Dodge Ram 3500 with 227k needs new tires just about now😅 this video surely helped 👍🏼👍🏼
After two sets of the Toyo RT I went to the AT3 an am very impressed. I considered the Nitto Ridge Grappler, but heard too many complaints about wear.
Have to agree with you i have the new toyo r/t on my f150 4x4 and they dont have the same a/t feel everywhere as my 38 13.50 ridge grapplers do that i run on my 2nd gen all in all there both in my opinion top performers!
I have the ridge grapplers on my 18 gmc 1500 and so far they are great on and off pavement mainly beach driving
. I have the 305 50 r20 because I was not ready for a lift on this truck and these don’t rub at full turn at stock ride height.
Agree, BDS coilover 6” lift on my 2021 GMC duramax, NITTO Ridge Grapplers got the nod.. 12.5x35x18 with Method matte black rims. Very happy
I’m running the 37x12.5.18 ridge grapplers with methods also on my 20 Silverado 2500 with the FabTech 6in lift. I’m also very happy. Just been playing around with the psi to find the sweet spots for front and back.
I have the nitto ridge grappler and they have been great. I tow a 32 ft travel trailer and at Max pressure they are very good. I run them at 45lbs when not towing and am happy with the ride and noise. Have about 20,000 miles on them and wear like iron. I will definitely buy these again and highly recommend them.
What type of rig do you have? How is the MPG with the RG?
@@albertcooper7445 I have a 13 F-150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost. I lost about a mile-and-a-half per gallon with them but I pull a pretty heavy camper so I went to the 10-ply.. I will definitely buy them again though.
Had same dmax for 7 years. Started with bfgs then went to nitto mud grapplers, but being in north the mud grapplers sucked, ice: make sure your seatbelt was on lol, squishy sidewall when towing, didn’t perform well in snow unless I was in deep snow, then they really shined. Only ran them for 15k when I switched to ridge grapplers and had them for 30k ish now. Very happy with ridge grapplers. Quiet on Highway, good In snow, not quite the performance in snow like a duratrac, but they’re way quieter and don’t wear out as fast. I’d recommend ridge graps, they are very comfty towing and in ice/snow. Truck doesn’t see much mud so can’t give reviews on that.
Just ordered 35x12.5xR17 Nitto Ridge Grapplers can't wait till they get here!!!
What type vehicle are you putting these tires on?
Great content bro!!! Keep it up !!
Thanks! Will do!
Nice video as usual 👍🏻
I have a 05 ram 2500. I live in Oregon and work out of West Texas oilfields. I run a toyo open country a/t. They are 35/12.50/17 on a 3 inch lift/level. I’ve ran them in snow ice mud and sand . And if you have never experienced oilfield mud or wet “ caliche” worst mud I’ve ever been in!!! And I swear buy these. They work great in all above. They have good siping so in wet and icy conditions there great. The main reason why the 2 in this video lack in the wet / icy conditions is there is vary little siping so it’s like running a slick.
So my advice is take it to a tire shop and ask about having more siping added or buy the open country a/t .. also I use my truck to pull a 10,000 pound travel trailer from job site to job site.
Nice video again Andrew! Question-is the 2021 Ram HD getting a redo mirroring the 1500 cab wise? I’ve heard rumors that it was.
Yes please...video on tire pressures....
I find i run 50 psi front and 45 rear and i get a comfortable ride and tread pattern wear i find quite desirable. I run the Toyo ct on my truck and it is a 35/12.5r17 size for me
Great information! Thank you!
I think the nitto ridge grapplers are better looking and perform better I have them on my truck and I love them there pricy but its worth it! Great video man!
Please do a video covering Nitto Ridge Grapplers vs Toyo Open Country ATIII’s! That’s what I’m stuck between, great video!
Sadly nobody can get their hands on the AT3s yet! There’s a huge national shortage of tires at the moment!
Just Diesels oh man I had no idea!
I have ran both on my 07 2500 duramax.
Toyos we’re good tires, lasted about 15k miles less than the Nittos.
Nittos were better on the icy roads in north east Oregon.
RTs were quieter.
Nittos were cheaper.
After I made the switch to nitro ridge grapplers I haven’t looked back. On my 4th set and I love them.
They could both be better in the ice and slush. They both will get pulled around badly in slush.
Just ordered the nittos for my 2020 tacoma pro, thank you
@Austin Knowles I love them. They look and ride great! Super smooth on the highway
'21 I just bought the Nitto Ridge Grapplers because i had limited tires i could get 265/70/18. And they only cost $ 300 each. I did want the Trail Grapplers but i couldn't get any. Sold out everywhere. But for my first drive home i barely even heard any tire noise. But ill have to see if they're going to be enough for hunting season ? Snow,mud. We'll see.
Nitro Ridge Grappler is my favorite tire at the moment. Works great in all weather, and with aggressive look without the loudness on the road. I like how soft they feel as well.
Theyre not good off road tho
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I didn’t know toyo and nitto were the same manufacturer. I like the AT3s was thinking of buying those
I'm running Ridge grapplers on my ram I'm happy with them.
At 20k miles on my Nitto RG’s on a Cummins 2500 they are pretty worn, not sure they will make it to 30k which is disappointing. Love them for towing and off-road, and you are 100% correct they aren’t that great in wet and ice/slush winter driving. If these won’t last 30k miles I won’t buy them again.
Great Review!! Nitto all the way!!👍👍👍
I have the Ridge Grapplers on my 3rd gen and they are worth every penny so far. They are only slightly louder than the terra grappler g2s I had previously.I still need to test them in sand and snow
They have a much stouter carcass than the G2's also.
I have had a problem with both the Teragrappler and the Ridgegrappler "chunking" when they get older. I primarily offroad on granite and other high traction surfaces. I wonder if you have seen this on your Nittos and if the Toyos do that. The rubber seems to get really hard with age.
I have the nitto ridge grapplers in 35x11.50r20 on my 15 ram sport and love these tires... quiet, great in snow and rain. I have about 10k miles and can barely notice much wear. I will definitely buy again!
I keep seeing. Nitto R.G. 's arent good in snow. You stated otherwise, so they've been good to you in winter conditions?
@@hakenkreuz7076 yes they have been good... like all winter driving it requires some common sense.
Update... just turned 35k miles on mine and the 4th rotation and still have over half tread left... so can safely get 65k miles out of this set before the tread indicators
@@cruzzindodge They still do well in the wet and snow?
Love my Ridge Grapplers.
Badass review and badass trucks. This review singlehandedly convinced me to go with the Nitto Ridge Grapplers... unless you have any other recommendation for all terrains, then i'm all ears. LMK! Thanks
For all terrains, the Toyo AT3 and Nitto Terra Grappler G2 are my favorites. Just depends how aggressive of a tread pattern you want!
I ran the Nitto Trail Grapplers 35x12.5 R20s for over a year and absolutly britalized them on all kinds of terrain and especially rock crawliing and mud and I loved them, but they were sketchy AF on icy or wet roads and were relatively loud. I was going to switch to Hankook dynapro mt2's but the tire sales person made me an insane deal on five Nitto Ridge Grapplers and I couldn't say,"No".
I have been very happy with them. First thing I did is take them rock crawling in teh rainy season so ther was also PLENTY of mud and they perfromed VERY well. The noise was vastly less than my Old MTs and the road performance was also MUCH better. I do think that the MT's had slightly better grip in mud and steep rock inclines, but these got me over all the obsdtacles I went over and I had no issues. I will stick with them and see how they wear which seemed a bit of an issue with the MT's. The Nitto trail garpplers still had PLENTY of tread and worked great, but the base of the rubber (empty areas between lugs) did develop some weird "dry rot" veining and cracks which was a little disconcerting. Those lasted me about 46k-50k miles before swapping them out, but they couldv'e easly gone another 20k. We'll see how these Ridge grapplers work out.
How were the ridge grapplers on icy or wet roads?
What about the toyo at3 vs the nitto ridge grappler? I've never had a set of ridge grapplers but so far I'm absolute love the new toyo at3. Mostly driving on highway and snow. 04 yukon Denali with always a good amount of weight in the back and I tow with it as well. Want the most longevity, best snow traction, and best stability and handling. The at2 I highly disappointed in with performance and treadlife. I've heard a lot greatness on both the ridge grapplers and at3.
Nitto it is for me. Thanks 👍👌✊
The one thing I didn't hear you touch on was longevity. That would be the deciding factor for me. BTW, these will be going on my 98 Ram 12V.
In my experience the Toyo RT might last a hair longer, but they’re pretty comparable.
Hey Andrew,
I currently have the Ridge Grapplers on my 2011 LML . 285/70/18 . I need to replace now as one seperated on me which made me start looking at other brands, which i have narrowed it down to Nitto Or The Toyo A/T III. Which would you go with? I really do not drive the truck much and when we do its for long trips, we used to have a 5th wheel , which im sure we will get again in the future . Really no off road besides regular camp sites etc. I would like to move up a size like 295/70/18 would that work with either tire brand? Torsion bars raised 2". Thanks for your opinion.
Heber
On ur third gen are u running on a bead lock or a street lock where it’s inside but looks like a bead lock. If it’s bead locked how well do they balance out
Which is better for gas mileage?
Which is better on snow and ice covered roads?
I'm on the fence of the ridge grapplers and the cooper st maxx
Anyone know how the ridge grappler performs in the sand? Looking to get a set of them and will mainly be doing beach driving when i go off road. Also great video mate, liked and subbed! Cheers
1/2 life on the NRG buddy parked his Dodge 1500 in the snow as we all kept going up the mnt. I will never get the NRG after seeing that. BFG K02 at 3/4 life on my F 150 had some slippage but kept going.
TRXUS - STS for me, American made in Louisiana, quiet on the highway and EXCELLENT in the sand.... I drive 30% off road, so maybe there better on the freeway, but sand here in the Hugh desert is more important than anything else..
amazing video
Just put ridge grapplers on my 2020 ram laramie 1500. They are 33's for now till I do a lift kit. They are very quiet compared to my 04 ram with cooper stt pro 35's. Changing lanes on the highway it feels like the sidewalls sway on the nittos. Any one else feel the same as the m/t 's on my other truck I don't feel that at all
I run 40psi on all my tires. So far it's worked for me.
Awesome vid I’m have RTs and traction on wet pavement does suck and they are pretty noisy
but the RTs do really well in mud
That's the one part he didn't mention and where there is no comparison. Get into clay or buckshot and the RT with those huge voids cleans nearly like an MT. They do suck on wet pavement. Hell i'd argue they're dangerous on wet pavement. I'm on my second set of RTs and in that regard i hate them. Everywhere else they're wonderful though. I imagine the redesign will have more siping.
The R/T held up A LOT better for me in rockier, desert terrain. They aren’t snow rated, but mine did fine in snow. They also have a mud terrain carcass. The Ridge Grappler has an all-terrain carcass. The softer compound doesn’t hold up as well with big, sharp rocks. That’s my experience with both.
I agree I had the duratrac I switched to the ridge grapplers and my next go around will be back to the duratrac they were a better Tire
What brand of wheels are you running ?
For tire reviews, reviewers need to provide tread depth, and load rating. When people complain about poor traction in deep fresh snow (12 inches) or blowing a load C rated tires while pulling a trailer loaded with a SkidSteer at 70 mph on I-70 through the Rocky Mtns in January, we the readers need to know if the reviewer purchased the correct tire for their task. For my empty 6000 lb 4WD SUV I prefer quiet(NOT, I didn't rotate) Duratracs with low weight 45-50lbs (easy-on-suspension), 16 to 18/ 32nds tread depth for any kind of deep snow or slush. The new Destination XTs and Grabber XTs (terrible name) look good (quiet, great tread depth 16/32nds and snow traction, light weight for load rating).
I have a Jeep gladiator with 37s Nitto trail grapplers and they don’t even seem loud. I feel like on a diesel truck you would hear anything from the tires. I guess maybe the wind noise in a Jeep drowns it iut
Which one holds up better on grave
Looks like the public has made the decision to choose the Nitto Ridge Grappler, as I am the proud purchaser of the LAST 4 of those tires available in the United States (as of April 2021). I had Nitto Terra Grappler G2s on my truck, which I just replaced with the Ridges. I have noticed NO loud noise on the road and the griping on paved turns is phenomenal. I bought the 315/70r17 size tires on custom rims with a 6" negative aspect. My ATs lasted me for over 50,000 miles and 5 years of freeway, dirt, and regular street driving, and I expect at least that from the Ridge Grapplers.
The last 4? Lol did your mom tell you that?
Had nitto ridge grapplers on my avalanche black diamond, was not fully impressed with performance, doesn’t grab well on sand, and slippery on wet roads. Appearance is top notch though. With that said, I just ordered Toyo RTs for my Escalade to be put on tomorrow 🙂
I was always told when putting that pressure into your tire whenever I max PSI is always run 5 lb under so the max is 40 I run 35 to 37 lb and also keep looking at my tires to see how the tread is wearing if it's wearing more in the middle or or the edges are getting worn down then I will adjust the air pressure so the tire is not copying or crowning when you're running on the highway that's also a good way to tell if they're running the correct air pressure
I run my RGs at 32 cold. I tend to get better ride quality this way. 6inch lift 35x20s
I love my grapps....hit all the trails at badlands indiana rock quarry, sand, mudd, dirt everything in my 4runner....didnt even air down still 40lbs 🤣 no issue
Now im wondering about the Nitto Recon Grappler vs Ridge Grappler...
In heavy gulf coast rains RTs grip well. I've tried to hydroplane them during downpours and pooled water unsuccessfully. I do however like the slightly more squared look of RGs. But I can't tolerate another tire that gets squirrelly in the rain. So it was RTs or Wildpeaks for me.
The Toyo rt trails are dope and it's a smooth and not too loud ride and they're hella aggressive looking
What kind of miles did you get out of tune nittos
I love the ridge grapplers exempt in the winter they aren't the best in snow
I have witnessed the same thing first hand. I have 33" Wildpeaks and have been wanting to go with Ridgegrappler's since they look badass. However, two buddies with 37" grappler's couldn't hang with my small 33" wildpeaks in the snow. We were all aired down around 10-15 PSI. At first I thought it was a driver issue but both trucks with grappler's kept getting stuck so I figure it was a tire issue.
I put Toyo MTs on my Ram. Love them. Don’t mind the noise.
I literally just pulled the trigger on some Toyo Open Country ATIII's 35X12.5 for my Xterra. I hope they treat me right!
Love the nitto ridge grapplers on my 2019 GMC 2500 Denali Duramax. It's the best all around tire you can buy on the market in my opinion.
Did you do a leveling kit ?
@@jamesparker1305 I do not have a leveling kit. Right now I'm running 275/65/20 Ridge Grapplers on stock suspension on my Denali. I'm considering a leveling kit or a lift kit but just haven't put much thought into it yet on what brand and size to get.
@@kernmw10 yeah, I’m leaning toward leaving Denali stock since I pull a RV. Wanted to see what size I could go up to without the leveling kit
@@jamesparker1305 275/65R20’s are a pretty commonly accepted size without mods.
Are the Nitto Ridge Grapplers all terrain???
What is the wheel on your nittos??
I’ve loved my ridge grapplers. I’m hoping to hit 50k miles. Just passed 35k and at 7/32s. Titan XD with a 5.0 Cummins
How do you like your truck? I’ve been looking at those trucks but don’t hear much about them
@@Thatguy8134 I love my truck. I went from an 03 5.9 Cummins to this. It literally feels like the same truck, only it rides a little better and the transmission shifts pretty hard. This truck tows better too. Only thing the truck needs now is a 5in straight pipe, then I’ll be 100% happy.
AT3 vs NR grappler? Please
I got a little better mileage out of the cheaper Toyo R/T than the Nitto RG but like the beefy sidewalls on the Nitto's. Don't think there is a bad choice between them just the minor differences you mentioned. Well done video!
I just left you a couple of comments on Instagram and a couple of pictures of my truck my 2004 Ram 1500 Hemi I have a Gibson exhaust air intake throttle body throttle body spacer air intake stage 2 and computer programmer so that's more for Speed what ties do you recommend I usually put the Cooper AT3 but I'm looking to change tire brands
I personally really like Nitto and toyo. For all terrains, the Nitto Terra Grappler G2 is my pick! For hybrids, it’s the Nitto Ridge Grappler. 👌
How about the new Toyo Open Country AT/3??? I just replaced the Nitto Ridge Grapplers on my 2018 F-150.
I am on a 2nd set of AT/2 on a Tundra, 1st set got 100K miles rotating every 5K miles
Good day! So, I’m in the market for new tires on my 2017 RAM 2500. I live in a small northern town in Ontario Canada where our colder weather usually begins in October-April/May..ish. We get a lot of snow, and icy roads. Hot temps in the summer. I can’t afford to buy winter and A/T tires, so I need a jack of all trades. Currently running a LT305/55R20. (Watched your vidéo on suspension/tire-wheel setup). Can’t afford smaller wheels right now either. My current tire is a Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac which has worn quite quickly. I’m looking at the BF Goodrich A/T KO2 and the General Grabber AT X . Open for suggestions if you can help me out.
I have Nitto Terra Grapplers here in Utah and I haven’t felt a slip at all. I’m at 35000 miles currently on this set. Still have half my tread.
i’m looking at buying a used 4th gen cummins (6.7) and i don’t know exactly what to look at. can you help me with a list or a video please?
Working on that now!
If you're not getting the mileage out of the Grapplers would you say its likely due to over inflation? I had a set of these and they just didn't last very long. I need some new shoes on my 2500 and was going to give the RT's a go. I drive about 4500 miles a month. 20% off road. Mud is my problem.
From what I understand it depends on the load rating of the tire. If you use a C load it will wear faster. I have F load and after 26k miles look nearly new
I wanted the Grappler in 37/12.50 /17 but they are not in stock anywhere.So I went with the Open Country R/T.
I’m having this same issue... now I have to decide between the rt or mt
@@XzxBATTxzX My son is a tire dealer and steered me away from the M/T because of the road noise,very happy with the R/T so far,minimal noise if any.