I still like a video about Skill,, seems like they have become a forgotten brand, guess The one my Father had was at least 50 years old, and heavy as a Buick
Same here as JJ, needed a drill to make holes, heard good things form DeWalt and got one, came with 2 batteries and charger, battery doesn't rattle, stays snug without shifting, batteries have charge meters, drill has high powered LED light, so far happy with it. Also love the marketing study, as business major its clear as day how B&D could not compete using that brand.
I built a house my senior year of high school and we were provided with DeWalt tools to use. Man we beat the living crap out of them and they just kept going. I was super impressed. Especially when we found out we accidentally dropped a drill off the roof and then it got lost in the snow. Found it a month later when the snow melted and it still worked!
As a professional mechanic, we obviously have lots of tools around the shop. Mainly dewalt for the powered shit, at home I have ryobi because I’m cheap but also because the dewalt sucks. While yes they may have never failed us but I have also never had a ryobi fail me. And the overall dewalt experience has been bad. Just the power of their tools and the ergonomics I mean I just don’t like their tools for the price. They seem way to cheap. However I have some of my fathers old dewalt tools laying around from years and years ago and lemme tell ya, those things kick ass. However the new dewalt is like the little tool set you get your son for his 3rd birthday.
I don't doubt this at all. The truth is that most tools are pretty durable, even most harbor freight ones. The difference between the 'best' and 'average' is pretty small for almost all users. They are mostly built in the same overseas factories with pretty similar quality control. I forgot about a rigid drill out in the rain and snow for at least two weeks. It's still working well years later! Anecdotally, the gearbox in a dewalt drill failing with light use in about a year has been one of my biggest tool disappointments.
@@matt.squarebody5427 I see a lot of Milwaukee in my garage than dewalt. I like my dewalts and it makes me more special sincd me and on other uses dewalt power tools. I am slowly replacing my Bauer cordless with dewalts and the dewalt stuff I have is nice
@@LiveandAmplifiedProductions were old school! We primarily if not only ever use air tools. If we need something cordless we use the DeWalt. Decent tools but they should definitely be cheaper. Milwaukee is great shit as well, planning on upgrading my junky Ryobi stuff to Milwaukee soon. They definitely hold the market.
I love dewalt i have mostly everything that you can use for concrete construction every thing i have is flexvolt tools and have never had a problem with all the dewalt tools i have
I build fences professionally, and I’ve used a lot of different tool brands, from Makita, Milwaukee, Ryobi, Skil, Bauer, even Hyper Tough. And of course Dewalt. No full sets of tools, I mix and match them a lot. But in my experience dewalt has done the best. I use them every day and they haven’t failed me. To be fair, even the Bauer and Hyper Tough tools I use do exactly what they’re supposed to do. I love my black and yellow but I realize they’re definitely overpriced. I have tricks to get them cheaper, like buying used, but that doesn’t excuse the original price. I wish they made more parts in the US, but that’s not my priority, my priority is tools that won’t let me down at work. No they ain’t perfect, no tool brand is. But dewalt has done me well so far and until they don’t, I will continue to use them.
Lmao the fencing company that made my fence used a hammer and a nail gun the whole fence requires constant maintenance 😆 I tried hammering the fence together and the nail would get to a certain point and stop!
I disagree... I bought a 20V DeWalt drill a while back. One day I knocked it off a scaffold 12 ft onto concrete. I figured it would be cracked or deformed, but the only thing that broke was the bit I had clamped in it. That was impressive, and more than I hoped for. The brushless line is also quite efficient in terms of energy use. I've never had a battery go bad either... So, I've drank the cool aid on DeWalt... Fanboy?...Maybe...or, I just don't want to deal with lots of different batteries... Thanks!
A while back my dewault hammerdrills battery pack caught on fire (fell on top of my woodstove) and I tossed it outside on the snow and melted the bottom of the drill a little bit but still works and just a good. I also left my 1/4in impact out side for a week or 2 and it rain on many times and still works great the only thing that doesn't still work is the battery indicator.
I think a lot of US factor in the batteries and chargers We have on hand I will be buying more Ryobi because I have several batteries I can usually buy the bare tool for price of some batteries alone and now that I have found cloned batteries even more so
Meh that's nothing. Once my father and I were remodeling a bathroom and we opened an access and my dad was rearranging the plumbing and I dropped my rigid impact driver on my dad's face and outside of a busted lip nothing happened to my dad. I forgot to mentioned I dropped it from the attic my dad who was in the cradling space under the house took it like a champ.
That’s my main reason for sticking with dewalt. I want to try different brands but the damn batteries are too expensive, so I stick with what I’ve already invested (probably too much) in.
That is NOT the objective of this 'truer than truth' video, but to show how fraudulent the combo is. Of course that EVERY brand has its quirks, but he combo shown in the video is embarrasing!
@@tylersmith9868 It depends on the criteria you have. Festool has indeed a great quality built generally but you can also consider best value, power and precision, ergonomics among other things and mostly it depends on the tool and the user. So, I wouldn't be as categoric...
I agree with the battery prices, usually end up buying a new tool to get them and a charger. That said, I have only had 1 Dewalt tool ever die in 25 years as a contractor. That was a circular saw I was cutting metal roofing for years with a wood blade. I agree with some of your points but they have made me a ton of money.
Adopting a brand image as a personal identity is sad, regardless of the form it takes. You can be an interesting enough person on your own, without needing to depend on consumerism for peer affirmation.
Dale Gribble the word fan boy gets thrown around like troll. Everyone wants to label someone to help them understand why they don’t agree with their thought process. It falls more under tribalism then consumerism.
@@asherdie I've had 2 experiences with them I used to be a RIGID guy but their warranty is a joke and the price is too high for what it is when the warranty isint enforced properly.
I'm a Dewalt owner/user, and everything you said is 100% accurate. I've said it before, if HFT would have consolidated to a single battery design I would have dumped Dewalt quite a while ago.
I’m happy with my Dewalt line up. I’ve had 2 go bad, one was repaired and another which was replaced + 2 free batteries. That’s my experience over 6 years. Milwaukee isn’t a brand you see over here in the uk. It has started selling recently but it’s mainly Dewalt Bosch and Makita you will see on sites.
I switched years ago to Ryobi simply because my aging DeWalt drills & drivers NiCd batteries were wearing out and they were so expensive to replace. When I saw $79 for a single replacement NiCd 14.4v DeWalt battery, compared to $99 for a NEW Ryobi 18v drill, charger and TWO batteries, I was SOLD. I now have retired ALL of my old yellow stuff and now have about 30 Ryobi tools, and at least that many 18v lithium batteries.
That is quite true. NiCads and NiMH batteries died in short time. But the fix is to get fresh battery cells of higher capacity in the same size, and to learn HOW-TO rewire them safely! Now you can replace some batteries with Lithium cells, but need to keep the proper charger, as they are MUCH MORE delicate. there are tutorials ohow to revive old drills with new Lithium cells. Frequently you can even rise the power by using slightly higher pack voltajes in the old tools, which, in many cases have better overall construction than newer products!
Any Ryobi didn't screw consumers during the NiCAD to Lithium switch, both battery types work on the tools interchangeably - almost no one else did that. You had to buy new everything for everyone else.
Ryobi makes some good tools in my opinion. I had just returned a new Black and Decker corded drill that broke the first time I used it. The HD employee recommended Ryobi and I still own that drill. A couple years ago I bought a Ryobi lithium ion drill/driver kit. I have never had any problems with it.
@@picklerix6162 Interesting considering there's a whole chain of stores dedicated to selling remanufactured Ryobi/Rigid power tools that broke under warranty.
I really appreciate you for telling us the history of these tools; it takes the slick advertising and 'mystique' away from them and gives us the reality of things. I mentioned this elsewhere, but over 10 years ago when I worked at Home Depot ( oh, I'm sorry..it's "The" Home Depot..!! ) and my department was hardware, I had construction workers tell me that their Ryobi tools were more dependable than DeWalt. Needless to say, that was really interesting to hear. And yea, those DeWalt battery prices are outrageous. FWIW...a shout out to Ryobi customer service: I bought a 2 pack of Ryobi 18V. batteries last Sept. and by January of this year, both batteries quit charging. I called their customer service and a nice lady helped me. For some odd reason, I was having a hard time attaching a saved copy of my receipt to an e-mail to her and she spent probably 20 minutes helping me figure out how to get it done. But as soon as she got the attachment, she immediately sent me 2 new, 2.0 Ah. batteries. Red...I am encouraged by your keeping us informed about HF tools and the increasing quality of a lot of their drills & other stuff. Thanks..!!
Not a "fanboy", but I appreciate the DeWalt tools that I own as well as the myriad of others. Your critique is about as closed-minded as one would expect from someone with little experience with real world tool usage.
I had 2 coworkers that loved dewalt. We were putting up cabinets on a brick wall and I pulled out my 12v Milwaukee and they started to laugh. I looked at them and told them my 12v milwaukee drill will last longer and out perform ur 18v dewalt. Well they kept switching out their batteries while I was still going with my 12v. A week later they went and got a 18v milwaukee kit. They trashed their dewalt.
Back in the late 70s I worked for Kmart in the paint, hardware, and lumber department. We sold Black n Decker next to Kmart’s yellow and brown “SHOPMATE” brand. My last SHOPMATE tool finally died 4 years ago. SHOPMATE was Black n Decker relabeled. I recall my 1/2 drill costing me $19 while the same Black n Decker 1/2 drill was $32! Keep up the great videos!
I'm no carpenter or a contractor but I was a manager for Lowes. I ran the tools section. Most toolbrands are all the same price give or take 5%-10% per respectively. I have raw numbers on all tools returned for various defects some just beaten to death by newbie contractors. DEWALT is roughly 1 return to manufacturer for defect/failure to 10 of the other brands. Dewalt when used properly by a pro will outlast the user.
My DeWalt 18v kit purchased back in '07 has served me well. Had to replace the two original batteries in '17. I still use the drill today, but the recip saw just broke in half on me about a month ago while using it. I'm slowly transitioning to Milwaukee 12v & 18v, mainly because the batteries seem to be better, and a lot cheaper.
Try out the Hercules saw the bear said it's pretty solid idk if its "contractor" grade but I mean for half the price of the dewalt and it's pretty much dead accurate cuts
Been working carpentry and maintenance for over 30 years, never seen a porter cable non bench tool that wasn't broken. Makita hand tools have a weird high frequency vibration that I find very uncomfortable to use for any length of time. I have DeWalt cordless drills that I have been using for 20 years. Had one fall off of a fifth floor balcony, and it still runs as good as new. My DeWalt mitre saw [ same one shown in this video ] is 15 years old and I have never had a single problem with it. It is a tank. Same with my routers, both full size and palm. I have never, not once, noticed my batteries being loose fitting. That said, my favorite circular saw is Milwaukee, and rotory hammer and jig saw, Bosch. I think that part of the problem might be buying tools online, something I absolutely refuse to do. Come to think of it, I don't buy anything online. I prefer to get a feel for something before I buy it, and that is something you just can't do unless you go to the store and check it out for yourself. I kind of feel like the things sold online might be store rejects.
@@JDKunesI am well aware of who owns DeWalt tools, Having worked to cable one of their plants in the early 90's. You have your opinion and that is fine. All I can go on is over 30 years of experience using the tools in professional settings. In that experience, I have found them to be among the most reliable tools on the market. That said, my newest DeWalt tool is over twelve years old and running strong. Perhaps the quality has dropped off in recent years, I would not know, since I have not had to replace one in all that time.
@@TRUE_GR1T my toolbox is 80 percent makita from most of my cordless to my saws and aircompressors and they do have a high pitch frequency in some of their motors that some people cant handle. I have a dewalt friend I was working with and he grabbed my skill saw and he couldn't even use it it killed his ears. Not a vibration but a frequency that buggs people. I didnt notice it until then but I've also been using makita for over 20 years
Been using Dewalt 20v drill/impact set for several years for DIY grade work with no problems. A little over a year ago, I was looking at more tools and was deciding if I wanted to "fully commit" into Dewalt 20v, or look into the alternatives. What made the decision for me was DeWalt's recent inroads into the outdoor tool market. It's nice having a cordless trimmer, blower, and hedge trimmer that use the same batteries as my drill and impact. When my push mower that I use to get into areas my riding mower can't dies, I'll likely get the DeWalt mower as well. Watch for sales and the prices are pretty competitive with the others. Shine on Red!
You guys are doing something wrong or using it beyond design load for some reason. Or you might be confusing with older NiCAD tools (18 volt) where the batteries age quickly. All my 20 volt lithium DW tools and batteries are flawless in performance. And I have certainly stressed my hammer drill in concrete this last summer in 95 deg. Weather. No problems.
@@davidperry4013 my M18 fuel brushless i use at work came with the same defect with the trigger as did the reviews on their website unfortunately. Sent it in and came back like they never touched it. Border line with Milwaukee now, looking at Makita, maybe.
Cordless battery prices make no sense at all. I bought a craftsman cordless circular-saw for $64.95, it came with a fast charger AND a 4amp battery. A great deal. I could have bought just the battery for $99!!!!! WTF. The cordless power tool market has the worst pricing structure i've ever seen. And all the brands practice it. No matter what brand you choose, be carful when buying.
Max Burns the only way I feel I’m getting a deal is to stick with one brand. Once you have a charger and a few batteries, you can usually buy bare tools without batteries or charger for a decent price. But I agree with you. Once those battery’s don’t hold a charge they will be expensive to replace
Yep, same in UK, all drills are cheap, so when my batteries die I go an get a drill with 2 high amp batteries for 150quid as a battery on its own is bout 120 quid. New charger as well!
I agree, it's ridiculous! I've gotten a number of my Makita batteries by buying 36v tool sets when they're on turbo-sale, then I sell the dual-port charger and the tool for almost what I paid for the whole thing, and keep the batteries. I also wait for sales on batteries themselves, when they're $100 off a pack of two. What I really want to do is get a tab welder and replace the old cells in the packs myself.
@@bmay8818 you can but I was told the circuit board in the top tells the battery charger its dead an won't allow it to charge? Not sure how true that is but I've seen makita circuit boards for sale on wish and Ebay.
Funny you mentioned the tools you've acquired. I have 3 brand new drills I purchased for $34.95 at Lowes, each with a charger and 2amp battery. I saved $135 AND I have 3 chargers and drills to sell off or use as back up. Who comes up with this stupid retail pricing?
We used DeWalt 12 Volt Drills for the first few years after B&D rebranded their Professional Line with great results. Once they brought out their 14.4 Volt tools the quality took a nosedive. We couldn’t get a drill to last 30 days without failing so we tried several different brands and eventually settled on Makita and have never looked back.
Agreed I used the dewalt 12 system until 3 years ago m it was cost prohibitive to continue buying the batteries for them , 25 years of use on that older system m now the new 20v replacements are junk, my older drills were pistol grip and it was alot easier to drive large screws with hand inline instead under the motor housing
The only reason I have DeWalt tools is because I received a gift kit for Christmas one year. Once you have a set of tools, you have to stick with that brand.
All battery pricing is outrageous. They are there to entice you to buy kits. If you can’t figure that out then you ain’t too bright (not you bear). they also use them for promos. Like buy a tool get a free battery. The inflated prices are there so you think you are getting a deal on a promo. Worst thing you can do is buy them bare. Every single tool company is guilty of this.
Years ago I decided I needed to start buying some of my own power tools for work, I told my brother that my bosses all used DeWALT. He just said "don't make a tool brand choice based on social acceptance". After some trial and error and a little research I landed well past DeWALT.
Lots of people need peer affirmation of their consumer purchasing decisions. We need that acceptance, and a marketing department is glad to sell it to us!
@Robert Hunstable Milwaukee. I still have my first 12v Fuel Impact driver. The few tools I've had to replace were due to falling out of the work van going down the road or left behind at a job site.
I used DeWalt drill impacts for 6 years straight, everyday. Used them all day long, drilling self tappers into metal doors. Never had an issue. We'd drop them on concert floor, accidentally and they'd get splattered with paint. They never failed. Strong tough drills. They are comfy in the hand also. I've used other drills and DeWalt have been the best in that aspect. Cant tell you about any other of their tools.
Well, I’ve read all of the comments about bad fitting batteries, burnt out tools and lots of very uneducated comments about battery management and I have never experienced any of these issue in a full range of DW tools which I really put through the paces this last summer driving hundreds of 3-4”; SPAX screws in treated wood. The 60 volt 7.25” saw is a beast even in damp treated wood. I have about 6 batteries ranging from 3 amp hour to big 20/60 Flexvolt batteries and they all perform flawlessly. They are rugged and solidly built. My batteries are used daily in 7.25” saw, jigsaw, oscillating tool, 4.5” grinder, sawzall, impact driver, router, masonry drilling, large leaf blower, weed eater, small chain saw, hedge clippers, portable plane etc. I have never had to replace a battery or charger. Bad experiences can be had if tools are abused or used outside their design uses. As for comments about the change of battery format a few years back, well, the shape of the individual cells is completely different between lithium and NiCAD/NiMH. They are nothing alike and format change had to come. Every tool brand had to face it. Everyone now uses the slide on format. It is dictated by the 18650 cell format. And all the major higher end tools use similar 18650s from reputable suppliers. The location of the BMS circuitry May vary but be assured they ALL use adequate and well designed battery management. The risk of not doing so would not be worth it. The circuit boards are made in vast quantities and are not a major cost in today’s world. At least DW produced a coupling device so you can use new lithium on older tools that used NiCAD. Works very well. Bottom line, there isn’t much difference between the major brands in reality. In proper use they all perform very well compared to a few years ago before lithium and brushless technology. I understand the need to feel good about what line you chose but there isn’t much difference at any performance and tranche level. My main criteria in choosing the brand I have is that the are rugged and have a very wide range of tools using the same batteries. My goal was to eliminate cords and gasoline. I have reached that goal. I no longer use gasoline and all the associated hassles. Once you have a few batteries it is very economical to expand your system buying “naked” tools. And the 8 volt small gyro screwdriver was used to assemble an entire kitchen. I love that thing. I always use that in preference to a 20 volt main tool when I can to drive screws and small nuts and bolts. I’m not a DW fanboy. I simply set my criteria and stuck to it. The result has been great for me. No problems or disappointments.
DeWalt Fanboi here. I've never owned any of the tools you've mentioned but I have a long list of their other power tools that get used daily with no complaints. I buy all my power tools from CPO and have never seen a 2 pack of the small batteries for $150. I've lost count of how many batteries i have but i can tell you I've never paid anywhere near $150 for a 2 pack. I think the last time i bought a 2 pack of batteries it was around $80-90 bucks. I've used other peoples Makita tools and from my experience the Makitas feel under-powered. here's a list of the tools I have: 20v brushless large mouth portaband, 20v brushed grinder, 20v brushless grinder, 60v brushless grinder, 120v grinder, 120v jigsaw, 20v brushed drill, 20v brushed 1/4" impact, 20v led flashlight, 20v brushed 1/2" impact, 18v/20v shop vac, 20v brushless oscillating multi tool, 20v sawzall, 20v circular saw, 20v toughsystem jobsite radio, 20v heated jacket, 20v cutout tool, 20v chainsaw, 18v drill, 18v impact, 18v flashlight, 18v circular and I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple.
I'm going to be afraid when you post the Bosch video like this. The fit my hand so well then I'm willing to overlook performance issues for the ergonomics.
You're right about US products claiming to be US products. At my job we produce some building materials. One of our ingredients comes from Canada and for legal reasons we can't claim it as being made in the US on the labeling and barcodes.
My first cordless drill was a DeWalt back in 1997. It lasted until it crapped out completely about 6 years ago. I went with the Ridged 18v hammer drill. It’s been great for me as a DIYer.
Great vid as always. Gotta admit, I’m a total Milwaukee fan boy. Can’t help it, they have TTI reps in the HD’s, anytime I have an issue (their 18V 2 AH batteries suck, I’ve had quite a few right out of the kits that would not charge) I just walk into HD, give the battery to my TTI rep, and he hands me a new one right off the shelf. On that note, I have Ryobi, Rigid, Makita, and yes Dewalt. What I’ve noticed about Dewalt is they are by far the STINGIEST when it comes to batteries. What you gotta do to get them to break off a free Flexvolt battery is just insane! Milwaukee at least gives batteries away for free with lots of different kit options to purchase year round. For your next roast, I’ll vote Makita. They actually put on their package description that the ergonomics are designed to fit the human hand. Ya no s%*t Makita! What, you think bears are gonna start driving lag bolts with your impacts 😉!
I have the bad language filter turned on so any over the top posts get sent over to a holding queue. I just had to delete about 50 comments there. Granted they were all from like 5 people but those 5 seem dead set on lighting me on fire.
I could not agree with you more ! Back in nicad days I had many thousands of $ invested in dewalt for my millwork shop and had 61-18v xrp batteries and brand new batteries would not charge but a few times then quit charging completely. I contacted the local dewalt rep and he was kind enough to replace 4 of the 61 batteries. It was close to Christmas so I told the guys in the shop I would give them everything 18v in the shop , just let me know who takes what , a couple guys even said no thanks. I then got into the Milwaukee platform and lithium were just starting a that time but very limited in tool selection and told the local rep why I was switching and a few days later Milwaukee sent 2 boxes to the shop inside were 61 brand new Milwaukee batteries and 6 chargers , ( nicad) . I've been Milwaukee ever since then and also other brands in a few select tools that I just prefer over Milwaukee. I will never own another yellow tool in my lifetime!!!
I worked security for a Dewalt/Porter Cable/B&D factory, for a couple of years. Almost all their parts were from everywhere except the USA! And back then, there were many shared internal parts. They did have some CNC equipment making a number of parts, I don't remember what they were, it it was so cool watching the process!
While i have several Dewalt tools, I did this as a result of an initial purchase, and wanting to stay with one style of battery. That was the 18v tools that have been replaced by the 20v. Yes, I understand that, with an adapter, I can use the 20v battery. However, switching battery protocols seems like a way to make older, working tools obsolete so that you are forced to buy their new product line. For that alone, I have stopped buying anything Dewalt. When I need batteries now, I buy after market. If I seem to be bashing DeWalt because of this battery switch, Let me tell you about my investment in the 28v Milwaukee line. I would like to settle on one battery style from a reputable manufacturer, and while this battery style switch may be good marketing, I will switch to a manufacturer that sticks with their product line.
Always used makita on the jobsite for drills/impact. Some crew members abused the shit out of them, using the battery pack as a mallet to align a stud, tossing them off a 12ft scaffold onto the lawn, using them in the rain... Worked perfectly fine for YEARS. The only thing was the batteries would fry after a couple seasons sometimes because they were ran dry too often. Also used their (corded) circular (skil) saws and they were quiet, powerful, light, and durable. A little spendy at $250, but worth it. Their impacts are fairly cheap at about $120!
Ilike your videos you do a great job,Back in the 1990's DeWalt was a good tool but if you use the 20volt's of today, for hard work they don't last long enough for the price, I have been in HVAC for three years and and have had two drills and three sawzall's burn out, within one year of buying them,the warranty as you pointed out is worthless, I have had better service from Harbor Freight Hercules tools and warranty,and wish they'd get there 20 vote Sawzall and circular saw and other tools out, I also really like the Bauer 20vote light,and jigsaw,they have been good tools for me, I always get the two years warranty,and if something happens, I just take it to the store and they give me a brand new one right then and there.
I think you are onto something here. I have a few Dewalt tools, but frankly Ryobi crushes them in reliability and value in the cordless space. Fanboys can look down their nose all they want while paying double and triple for less quality. I did everything I could to convince myself to buy a Dewalt "deal" for Father's Day but just could not justify going into a lower-powered battery line for much more money (2 4ah Ryobi @$99 plus free tool vs. 2 3ah Dewalt batteries @$149). Color determines reputation and how much some fanboy will spend on that tool.
Have had nothing but bad experiences with my DeWalt DCF850. Hammer failed after about 4 months of light use (mostly around the house for odd jobs). Had it replaced as it was still under warranty, and then the replacement failed after about 6 months. It is now a paperweight. Grabbed something from Milwaukee and have had no issues since.
I run DeWalt stuff. I think your critiques were spot on. I was lured in with a good deal on a starter set and some batteries on sale. Now to keep continuity with batteries I keep buying their stuff. I’m not complaining, but I’m not brand myopic either. I would never try to talk someone intoxicated brand. My guess 99% of people would be okay with HarborFreight’s middle of the road brand
Dewalts batteries are only cells and a temp sensor. They don’t even have a battery management system in the batteries like the Ryobi/Rigid/Old Craftsman C3 line. If you see a battery with individual cell pinouts on the exterior case then it doesn’t have a BMS.
Congrats Anthony Shelton! You have discovered a big truth! Lithum cell chemistry is very delicate indeed. Apart from the quality and robustness of the cell itself, the charging profile is what determines completeness of recharging and durability of the battery. Well designed rechargers are a huge difference in performance of the tool, but shortcuts in the circuitwill take a heavy toll on the performance of the battery, specially as it accumulates cycles and becomes "tired". I guess DeWALT's cheapo line uses less than correct chargers along with lower quality cells. Go figure.
As a mechanic I use the Milwaukee M18 and M12. They build the tools I need. They keep innovating. I have Milwaukee batteries that are 6 years old and just starting to show signs of weakening. Dewault batteries have always been their problem for me.
@@Halfstep2024All these tool brands uses rando jellybean battery cells from whatever asian electronics company actually makes the cells--the milwaukee patent is probably just for proprietary connection shape that locks you into their ecosystem so they can screw you or some shit.
I got started on Dewalt's 20v line because of their impacts I liked them a lot. Since I started collecting 20v batteries I started looking at other 20v stuff... Wound up with a string trimmer (highly recommend) a full size recip saw (gold) then found a good deal on the 20v chainsaw (pretty good- a few flaws) then I found a smoking deal on a 60v saw.... 😲 Now that one I'd give five stars to... So now I'm a flexvolt guy... All my dewalt tools make sense except for the dcd999.... I don't need a contractor grade hammer drill, I already had the atomic which is plenty for around the house... But it was on sale... And I already had the flexvolt batteries.... My biggest complaint with Dewalt is that they still don't offer a cordless ratchet wrench.... 🤔 Not even a brushed one.... ??? It'd be the perfect addition to the 12v line even...
Dewalt still does make *some* really nice tools, (I LOVE the gyro screwdriver), and I have NiCad and NiMH batteries that are more than 15 years old, but I stopped buying their cordless tools when they went to umpteen different battery platforms. Milwaukee covers just about every cordless tool imaginable with just two battery platforms. Had Dewalt stuck to that strategy, I would have stuck with them, but the profit is in the batteries, not in the tools and they got gready. As for Black + Decker, they went from awesome tools back in the day to absolute junk today. As a side note, Dewalt produced a video stating how they were committed to their 18V platform, then within literally a few months announced the 20V platform. The video is probably still on CZcams.
Actually it's not 20V, it's "20V MAX". Basically, it's the same thing as 18V. Take a DeWalt 20V MAX battery and competing brand's 18V battery, fully charge them, and measure the voltage with a multimeter. They'll both be just over 20V. Apparently Milwaukee patented 18V Lithium-ion battery and DeWalt didn't want to pay for that, so they went with 20V MAX , which is a marketing tactic at the same time (uninformed people will see a drill that says 20V and another one that says 18V, they'll immediately think the 20V one is better because it's a higher number)
I bought a 12V nicad Dewilt drill in 2000 and it still runs fine (not a daily user though). Had to replace one of the batteries with a bootleg one. Overall happy with it.
I agree on the batteries, was shocked to see the prices on those last time I checked. On another note, I have a DeWalt dual bevel sliding miter saw, only paid $350 for it and the quality of this thing is top notch. Nothing else comes close for the price. Actually overkill for the amount I'll actually use it. I also have an 18 volt drill of theirs bought maybe 5 years ago which came with 2 batteries at the time and its been great.
I bought a impact drill set the drill burned up on the first use I wasn’t even going hard on it. I ended up returning it and getting a makita set. I don’t know why I even bought the dewalt I’m a makita guy.
Every brand has a lemon tool. They fix the problem and move on. Doesn't mean DeWalt sucks as a brand because of the 887. I watched VCG smoke the 887, I own the 887 and kick it's ass everyday. I've never had one single issue with it.
a 2 pack of those is only 99$ where i live. two 6 amp hour flexvolt batteries can be found for 179$ your battery prices wayyyy are off based on your search. thats from home depots store site. home depot is a rip off! especially in store! they sell the compact and non compact 3 amp hours for the same price for 99$ near me as for chargers. when you buy a drill for 99$ you get 3 amp hours worth of batteries and a charger. my tools almost all came with chargers. thats why i got 7 docking ports! and again this is on home depots site. as for the stand. my friend has had his for 6 years with no issue and he handles hundreds of apartment units a year in trim. my other friend has had his for 3 and its as rock solid as my new one the drill is a basic model. of course for good reason it is gutless. its only a hundred dollars and it comes with the charger, batteries and a bag. when was the last time you carried a drill in a blow molded case? my first dewalt bag now carries all my batteries for a whole days work. its recyclable within my tool ecosystem . the Hercules when tested by AvE lied about its battery stats its closer to one of dewalts batteries in amp hour. the brush less impact orbital was actually on a special where you could get it for free with the premium tool kit(xr drill and impact) as for miter saws. DeWalt has the best cordless miter saw which for even me as a finish trim carpenter. is very practical as outlets are never reliable now a days. with the flexvolt system it is just as powerful as any corded miter saw. that i can attest. also if your bashing on their stand for a few rare reviews of poor quality. knock on festool. they are the only miter saw that has a serious issue with motor burnout. bosh are not cordless. Milwaukee is under powered as is makita. as for built in the USA assembly is the most labour intensive part of making any product so. putting the tools together here with our labour costs is no small feat
I have an 18v dewalt drill that i've had for 12yrs and still works great. Now the Miter saw, i was at a Flea Market and bought a Chicago Electric 12" compound miter saw with 2 dewalt blades (brand new unopened) for $40. The guy had bought it to cut trim for his bathroom and ended up hiring the job out instead. Saw looked brand new. Anyway, i was doing a job at my church and another member said use my Dewalt miter saw, it'll cut better than that Harbor freight. The stand (mentioned in this video) everything you said is true about the stand and miter saw. The stand was flimsy feeling and i was not confident cutting on it.Cumbersome pulling boards across it, it's designed to have the feed side flip in the wrong direction. Pull stock left to right and it would flip back down. The Dewalt miter saw didn't have the power (bog down cross cutting 10" board) and didn't have the reach for cross cutting that my harbor freight saw that i got for $40. I had they guy who owned the Dewalt try the difference and even though he agreed with me, refused to say the Harbor Freight worked better. I still have that saw in my shop and still works perfectly.
I might agree with you to a certain extent on their 20v brushed line and some brushless but their 60v line is top of the line i use them professionally everyday and a 6ah 60v battery will last a long time and with their fast charger which isn't the one you showed they will charge from zero to full in well under an hour. I get what you are saying but it's not all the way true on the cordless tools... well just hang tight and i will show you. Thanks for the video bear.
I'm also not sure what store has that price on the batteries because you can get 2 5ah xr batteries on amazon for 129.99, a 60v 6ah battery for 98, and 2 2ah batteries for 99 but that price is crazy lol.
Yep, their 60V stuff is great. And that's what I was getting at. Their high-end stuff is all good to great. Its just the low to mid-tier stuff that has issues.
I use dewalt 20v and 60v flexvolt line cuz I can slap that 60v battery in either set. It's like with any tool it don't matter what brand what matters is does it get the job done and how well are you maintaining it. Sorry any and all tools mine or someone else's I clean and its put back where I got or brought back looking better then when I got it.
@@KnKDarkLotus we use the 20 volt line but we have the shit batteries. Our drills are used as drills. We don't clean them or anything. Slap the battery in and go.
All i use is 20v XR they are great..i would like to switch to the milwakee because they have a wider selection of tools but i have so much money invested in yellow
DiYer here…Yes the DeWalt battery rattles a tiny bit on my combi drill, but on the circ saw, jigsaw, planer, router, recip saw, sander and osc multi tool the battery fits snug. This is 3 years on..but batt prices have dropped to 60bucks for a 5ahr. The drill in the video is the bottom range intended for light use..my mid range (796) 400w combi drill is plenty powerful and the top drill (996) is over 800w. For non-professionals a single batt platform is much more affordable than having six makes, so every top brand accrues its own fan base.
When B & D bought DeWalt, their Execs started the Original Tool Co. and continued making Radial Arm Saws. The company is still in business today and still sell radial arm saws, primarily to industrial customers.
Nope. DW decided they wanted out of the RAS biz so they sold the whole division to the two guys running it. This was at their Lancaster plant so they called the new company Lancaster Machine Co. Those guys did a horrible job with it and LM Co. went belly up about two years later. It was then bought by Robert Eden, a major parts supplier to LM Co. He renamed it Original Saw Company. The rest is correct. You should check out my video, A Brief History of DeWALT.
No a fanboy but dewalt is good enough for me. If i had a chance to choose now, I would of bought Milwaukee. My dad was a dewalt guy and after he passed I inherited all his dewalt tools and I already had some of my own. I didn't feel like investing in a different brand cause I already had a bunch of batteries and tools. U r right though bear. Oh and thanks for your reviews and posts in the harbor freight group on facebook.
It wasn’t too long ago that BNSF Railway made everyone go through their tools and ‘dispose’ of all of the ‘non union made’ tools. Basically, all of our power tools were Milwaukee, and the Union made everyone go to companies like DeWalt, which are Union made. Needless to say, most of us ended up with lots of free Milwaukee tools.
@you build it we destroy it Oh that's just the parts, the tools themselves are assembled in the good old US of A. Good enough for the shills running the unions. One more reason I will never work for a union again. Meanwhile they take your money and throw parties er um training exercises in the Bahamas.
I'm 3 years late but most tools have batteries that are loose due to when you use them in dirty places over time the battery will still fit after it gets gunk in it. That's what a certain tool engineer told me.
Our test was simple. I worked with DirecTV. We bought 5000 Dewalt drills , 5000 Milwaukee drills, and 5000 Makita drills, the flagship tools of these brands only. Dewalt's lasted 3 months and failed from chuck, motor and transmission failures. Milwaukee drills lasted one year and failed from switch burnout, chuck breakage and motor burnout. The Makita drills on on there 3rd year and only 10% were lost to a few various failures. As for batteries, many are still using original batteries on their Makita's and still hold full charge. We saved a fortune going blue.
I remember being able to buy dewalt tools at Wal-mart when i was a teenager. At the same time Wal-mart was selling Black & Decker Quantum Pro tools that were the exact same tool as Dewalt only green. Or maybe i should reverse that
So right about DeWalt batteries, there junk, spent hundreds on these things like a fool. Even tryed the quick fixes wit zapping then, only lasted a short time. My Makita battery last forever one of these is 8 years old.
My DW batteries have lasted very well under regular use in tools and garden tools. Had them for about three years. No issues in 20 volt batteries at all. The old NiCAD batteries were poor in all brands by comparison. The circuitry and battery management boards in the 20 volt max batteries are comprehensive in function and robustly built.
They only put the freakin clam shell together here in the USA. They put the assembled parts in the clam shell on and call it assembled in the USA. Technically it is but it’s a little misleading
Adam Garrity I keep hearing this bullshit. Wether it is made or assembled. It is a job here in the US. I can’t wait till red china is forced to do the same thing with these tariffs put in effect. Then the red China fan boys will be pounding their chests over the same “assembled in USA”.
Renaissance Man Hey Renman. I’m really glad to hear from you. I do agree jobs in the USA is a good thing. Feel bad you haven’t been back to the VCG. I think your a good man and appreciate all your efforts coming in and doing videos on the VCG. Hope to see you come back one day. Main reason I have Milwaukee as my main tools is because I started out on the battery platform and work mainly on automotive as a locksmith for mainly cars. Milwaukee has a better line of tools for auto. I hope they bring there jobs back to the USA. Anyway always good to hear from you.
I have been using DeWalt since the late 90's when the 18v DeWalt drill was the tool to have. Cabinet maker 13 years now electrician for 13 years. I believe Milwaukee defiantly has the market with innovation and I'll go as far to say quality, however I can get nearly twice the DeWalt as I can Milwaukee. As far as the loose battery I have encountered this with Milwaukee countless times and have never in my personal line of 20v DeWalt XR stuff which has been used on the job. With all that said though I believe my personal tools would out preform most others because I take care of them and use them correctly. I use good sharp bits, listen to them, and step up to the proper tool when needed. I had a Greenlee 7/8 carbide hole saw cup last me 1 1/2 years drilling purlins, I-beams, and electrical boxes weekly until I let someone else use it one time.
I'm a mechanic, and I use a 3/8 dewalt battery impact driver(20v max XR 4 amp/h), I have never run the battery dead, not even once. It's an absolute tank.
DeWalt batteries are not as bad as he made them out to be. They use high quality Samsung 18650 cells. Typically when people complain about their 20V batteries sucking, it's because they bought old stock that sat on the shelf for so long that the cells degraded and lost some of their original capacity. That's something to be wary of when buying batteries from 3rd party sellers on places like Amazon. You don't necessarily know how old the "new" batteries are.
@@karlschauff7989 haha 5 minutes ago I was doing my weekly cleaning/organizing of my tool wagon prepping for the next week, including putting my batteries on chargers. So one year after the above comment, my dewalt 3/8 and 1/2 impacts are still flawless. I think the 3/8 impact and it's battery are 3 years old now. Batteries were even putting out enough power a couple weeks ago when it was below 0F. And I'm sure you know this, but for anyone else reading - it's not only the quality and age of the cells that go into a battery pack, it's also the durability of the plastic case and the electrical stuff inside. Dewalt may use the same cells as everyone else, but the build quality means that dropping a tool isn't a death sentence.
Brushless is going to give a noticeable torque boost due to a lack of brush friction as well as a consequent 20-25% increase in battery charge capability due to the lessened friction and heat losses. Properly engineered it is definitely worth the price difference in an average cabinet shop from saved battery cost. That said, I go Makita (18v) and Bosch (12v) depending on application.
The key words there are "properly engineered". That entry-level brushless stuff is a joke. I'm working on a video to educate people on the science and issues with implementation that they need to consider.
Dang I’m glad I fell into Milwaukee. Much better 12V system, I hate how the battery on the deWalt 12V stuff is nearly the same size as the 20V stuff. and wider array of tools in the 18-24V lines. Can’t wait to see your Milwaukee slam video! But lm not sure if it’ll play on my Milwaukee TV and I probably won’t be able to see it because I’ll be too busy using my new M18 fuel vacuum cleaner. 😂😂
I recently purchased the DeWalt DHS790 120v 12" miter saw (tool only). So far, I'm really happy with it. The good news is, if my loan is approved I'll be able buy the batteries too. Thanks for the video. Keep up the good work. Oohrah!
You do realize they already have 96 volt systems complete with small lightweight 100ah batteries however their knowledge that sheeple fell off the turnip truck yesterday has enabled them to Dole the technology out incrementally making sure that everyone that is buying these systems have invested heavily acquiring every tool they need before releasing the newest latest and greatest.. all planned well in advance.. after you spend every dime you made, they then announce a better one is available, and of course nothing is compatible with what you already bought and own.. I hate it.. even though I know the new 30 volt is coming next year I still need to buy an 18 volt system.. and of course as soon as I have everything I need, Christmas is coming and so are the 30 volt tools
Bought a Harbor Freight portable band saw, returned it before opening because I found a DeWALT portable band saw for $99 at a pawn shop a few days later
i feel like the biggest reason for DeWalt's proliferation in the trades is that they have branded themselves to be the Budweiser of power tools. It's not so much the argument that they are the best, it's that they are available at about 75% of places tools are commonly sold. ALL of the big box home improvement stores, most hardware stores, and many if not a majority of trade-specific supply houses and places like Grainger carry DeWalt. Between this and the fact that they keep the buy-in price on a lot of the kit deals pretty reasonable, they've made it pretty much the accepted lowest common denominator for contractors and guys in the trades looking to tool up without putting too much thought into the intricacies and minute details of said tools. It's one thing to be enamored with the latest high-end offerings from team Teal or Red for personal use and another to be a GC or business owner that's buying tools for other workers that you know are going to get thrashed.
Who should get roasted next? Besides DaBEAR that is!
Dewalt stinks 😷
Oh, you know we have to put the Freight on the grill!
Craftsman deserved this before dewilt
I still like a video about Skill,, seems like they have become a forgotten brand, guess The one my Father had was at least 50 years old, and heavy as a Buick
Hilti
I'm only a homeowner/handyman but my 2 cents is that I never had a Dewalt fail. But that's just me.
I've done construction work my whole life. Dewalt is not the worst but Milwaukee beats it.
Same here as JJ, needed a drill to make holes, heard good things form DeWalt and got one, came with 2 batteries and charger, battery doesn't rattle, stays snug without shifting, batteries have charge meters, drill has high powered LED light, so far happy with it.
Also love the marketing study, as business major its clear as day how B&D could not compete using that brand.
I've had dewalt 2 drills die started to smoking, 1 a old 18v and one 20 volt drill
It never fails if you don't use it.
@@vilod Wrong, everything fails eventually, even if you don't use it.
Entropy is a funny thing. 😹
I built a house my senior year of high school and we were provided with DeWalt tools to use. Man we beat the living crap out of them and they just kept going. I was super impressed. Especially when we found out we accidentally dropped a drill off the roof and then it got lost in the snow. Found it a month later when the snow melted and it still worked!
As a professional mechanic, we obviously have lots of tools around the shop. Mainly dewalt for the powered shit, at home I have ryobi because I’m cheap but also because the dewalt sucks. While yes they may have never failed us but I have also never had a ryobi fail me. And the overall dewalt experience has been bad. Just the power of their tools and the ergonomics I mean I just don’t like their tools for the price. They seem way to cheap. However I have some of my fathers old dewalt tools laying around from years and years ago and lemme tell ya, those things kick ass. However the new dewalt is like the little tool set you get your son for his 3rd birthday.
I don't doubt this at all. The truth is that most tools are pretty durable, even most harbor freight ones. The difference between the 'best' and 'average' is pretty small for almost all users. They are mostly built in the same overseas factories with pretty similar quality control. I forgot about a rigid drill out in the rain and snow for at least two weeks. It's still working well years later! Anecdotally, the gearbox in a dewalt drill failing with light use in about a year has been one of my biggest tool disappointments.
@@matt.squarebody5427 I see a lot of Milwaukee in my garage than dewalt. I like my dewalts and it makes me more special sincd me and on other uses dewalt power tools. I am slowly replacing my Bauer cordless with dewalts and the dewalt stuff I have is nice
@@LiveandAmplifiedProductions were old school! We primarily if not only ever use air tools. If we need something cordless we use the DeWalt. Decent tools but they should definitely be cheaper. Milwaukee is great shit as well, planning on upgrading my junky Ryobi stuff to Milwaukee soon. They definitely hold the market.
@@matt.squarebody5427 Whats your opinion on MAC?
I love dewalt i have mostly everything that you can use for concrete construction every thing i have is flexvolt tools and have never had a problem with all the dewalt tools i have
if i need something nice i get dewalt. allthough i just do stuff around the house, when porter cable doesnt cut it i get dewalt.
yeah their corded tools last forever for home use.
Dude I dont know where this guy lives but damn there expensive there i can get a 12-20 volt charger for 38 dollars
I live in canada
I build fences professionally, and I’ve used a lot of different tool brands, from Makita, Milwaukee, Ryobi, Skil, Bauer, even Hyper Tough. And of course Dewalt. No full sets of tools, I mix and match them a lot. But in my experience dewalt has done the best. I use them every day and they haven’t failed me. To be fair, even the Bauer and Hyper Tough tools I use do exactly what they’re supposed to do. I love my black and yellow but I realize they’re definitely overpriced. I have tricks to get them cheaper, like buying used, but that doesn’t excuse the original price. I wish they made more parts in the US, but that’s not my priority, my priority is tools that won’t let me down at work. No they ain’t perfect, no tool brand is. But dewalt has done me well so far and until they don’t, I will continue to use them.
Dewalt tools are great imo and many others.
Lmao the fencing company that made my fence used a hammer and a nail gun the whole fence requires constant maintenance 😆 I tried hammering the fence together and the nail would get to a certain point and stop!
I have a 9.6v drill that’s almost 15 years old and it’s never let me down.
I disagree...
I bought a 20V DeWalt drill a while back. One day I knocked it off a scaffold 12 ft onto concrete. I figured it would be cracked or deformed, but the only thing that broke was the bit I had clamped in it. That was impressive, and more than I hoped for.
The brushless line is also quite efficient in terms of energy use. I've never had a battery go bad either...
So, I've drank the cool aid on DeWalt...
Fanboy?...Maybe...or, I just don't want to deal with lots of different batteries...
Thanks!
A while back my dewault hammerdrills battery pack caught on fire (fell on top of my woodstove) and I tossed it outside on the snow and melted the bottom of the drill a little bit but still works and just a good.
I also left my 1/4in impact out side for a week or 2 and it rain on many times and still works great the only thing that doesn't still work is the battery indicator.
I think a lot of US factor in the batteries and chargers We have on hand I will be buying more Ryobi because I have several batteries
I can usually buy the bare tool for price of some batteries alone and now that I have found cloned batteries even more so
Meh that's nothing. Once my father and I were remodeling a bathroom and we opened an access and my dad was rearranging the plumbing and I dropped my rigid impact driver on my dad's face and outside of a busted lip nothing happened to my dad. I forgot to mentioned I dropped it from the attic my dad who was in the cradling space under the house took it like a champ.
That’s my main reason for sticking with dewalt. I want to try different brands but the damn batteries are too expensive, so I stick with what I’ve already invested (probably too much) in.
Well, DeWalt has great folding saw horses, and decent sawzall blades, but all my other tools are red
Fun fact: Sears bought Orchard Supply, loaded it up with debt, and then dumped the debt in a spin off. That's what killed Orchard Supply, not Lowes.
So sad, not an uncommon occurrence
I don't know man I've never had an issue.
Buy from vanon 6 4ah for 150. No complaints. My dewalts take a beating.
every brand has their flaws period. For me DeWALT has done the job. So has Milwaukee, Makita, Festool and others.
That is NOT the objective of this 'truer than truth' video, but to show how fraudulent the combo is. Of course that EVERY brand has its quirks, but he combo shown in the video is embarrasing!
Festool is far higher quality than dewalt, Milwaukee etc
Amen
Festool is the Bentley of power tools. Yeah it’s that expensive.
@@tylersmith9868 It depends on the criteria you have. Festool has indeed a great quality built generally but you can also consider best value, power and precision, ergonomics among other things and mostly it depends on the tool and the user. So, I wouldn't be as categoric...
I agree with the battery prices, usually end up buying a new tool to get them and a charger. That said, I have only had 1 Dewalt tool ever die in 25 years as a contractor. That was a circular saw I was cutting metal roofing for years with a wood blade. I agree with some of your points but they have made me a ton of money.
Love your corporate historical story telling
Being a fan boy of a sports team is worse than being a fanboy of a tool. Atleast the damn tool can do something for ya.
I honestly don't get the whole fanboy/superfan thing. The mindset is a bit alien to me.
Adopting a brand image as a personal identity is sad, regardless of the form it takes. You can be an interesting enough person on your own, without needing to depend on consumerism for peer affirmation.
Dale Gribble Bravo!
Dale Gribble the word fan boy gets thrown around like troll. Everyone wants to label someone to help them understand why they don’t agree with their thought process. It falls more under tribalism then consumerism.
How much longer till we get a video talking about all the Rigid guys who brag on their lifetime warranty that you'll be lucky to get honored.
Honestly, I was going to do Ridgid first but switched to DW first. You know, prison rules. Find the biggest guy in the yard and punch him in the face.
@@denoftools lol
gotcha thats about right you insult a Dewalt and its like punching a hornets nest they all attack at once.
@@denoftools Good one..!!
@@asherdie I've had 2 experiences with them I used to be a RIGID guy but their warranty is a joke and the price is too high for what it is when the warranty isint enforced properly.
I'm a Dewalt owner/user, and everything you said is 100% accurate. I've said it before, if HFT would have consolidated to a single battery design I would have dumped Dewalt quite a while ago.
I’m happy with my Dewalt line up. I’ve had 2 go bad, one was repaired and another which was replaced + 2 free batteries. That’s my experience over 6 years. Milwaukee isn’t a brand you see over here in the uk. It has started selling recently but it’s mainly Dewalt Bosch and Makita you will see on sites.
I switched years ago to Ryobi simply because my aging DeWalt drills & drivers NiCd batteries were wearing out and they were so expensive to replace. When I saw $79 for a single replacement NiCd 14.4v DeWalt battery, compared to $99 for a NEW Ryobi 18v drill, charger and TWO batteries, I was SOLD. I now have retired ALL of my old yellow stuff and now have about 30 Ryobi tools, and at least that many 18v lithium batteries.
That is quite true. NiCads and NiMH batteries died in short time. But the fix is to get fresh battery cells of higher capacity in the same size, and to learn HOW-TO rewire them safely! Now you can replace some batteries with Lithium cells, but need to keep the proper charger, as they are MUCH MORE delicate. there are tutorials ohow to revive old drills with new Lithium cells. Frequently you can even rise the power by using slightly higher pack voltajes in the old tools, which, in many cases have better overall construction than newer products!
If you have older NiCads get the dual chemistry charger it does both NiCad and lithium batteries
Any Ryobi didn't screw consumers during the NiCAD to Lithium switch, both battery types work on the tools interchangeably - almost no one else did that. You had to buy new everything for everyone else.
Ryobi makes some good tools in my opinion. I had just returned a new Black and Decker corded drill that broke the first time I used it. The HD employee recommended Ryobi and I still own that drill. A couple years ago I bought a Ryobi lithium ion drill/driver kit. I have never had any problems with it.
@@picklerix6162 Interesting considering there's a whole chain of stores dedicated to selling remanufactured Ryobi/Rigid power tools that broke under warranty.
I really appreciate you for telling us the history of these tools; it takes the slick advertising and 'mystique' away from them and gives us the reality of things. I mentioned this elsewhere, but over 10 years ago when I worked at Home Depot ( oh, I'm sorry..it's "The" Home Depot..!! ) and my department was hardware, I had construction workers tell me that their Ryobi tools were more dependable than DeWalt. Needless to say, that was really interesting to hear. And yea, those DeWalt battery prices are outrageous. FWIW...a shout out to Ryobi customer service: I bought a 2 pack of Ryobi 18V. batteries last Sept. and by January of this year, both batteries quit charging. I called their customer service and a nice lady helped me. For some odd reason, I was having a hard time attaching a saved copy of my receipt to an e-mail to her and she spent probably 20 minutes helping me figure out how to get it done. But as soon as she got the attachment, she immediately sent me 2 new, 2.0 Ah. batteries. Red...I am encouraged by your keeping us informed about HF tools and the increasing quality of a lot of their drills & other stuff. Thanks..!!
I'm seeing more and more guys using ryobi in the trades.
Yeah, that warranty sucks.
Not a "fanboy", but I appreciate the DeWalt tools that I own as well as the myriad of others. Your critique is about as closed-minded as one would expect from someone with little experience with real world tool usage.
I had 2 coworkers that loved dewalt. We were putting up cabinets on a brick wall and I pulled out my 12v Milwaukee and they started to laugh. I looked at them and told them my 12v milwaukee drill will last longer and out perform ur 18v dewalt. Well they kept switching out their batteries while I was still going with my 12v. A week later they went and got a 18v milwaukee kit. They trashed their dewalt.
I just can't stand the high pitched motor whine on the 12v drills and impacts. Once you hear it, you can't unhear it.
Good video btw! I enjoy your content and you have some very valid viewpoints! The batteries are too expensive from most of the major brands
Back in the late 70s I worked for Kmart in the paint, hardware, and lumber department. We sold Black n Decker next to Kmart’s yellow and brown “SHOPMATE” brand. My last SHOPMATE tool finally died 4 years ago. SHOPMATE was Black n Decker relabeled. I recall my 1/2 drill costing me $19 while the same Black n Decker 1/2 drill was $32! Keep up the great videos!
I'm no carpenter or a contractor but I was a manager for Lowes. I ran the tools section. Most toolbrands are all the same price give or take 5%-10% per respectively. I have raw numbers on all tools returned for various defects some just beaten to death by newbie contractors. DEWALT is roughly 1 return to manufacturer for defect/failure to 10 of the other brands. Dewalt when used properly by a pro will outlast the user.
This is all that matters
My DeWalt 18v kit purchased back in '07 has served me well. Had to replace the two original batteries in '17. I still use the drill today, but the recip saw just broke in half on me about a month ago while using it. I'm slowly transitioning to Milwaukee 12v & 18v, mainly because the batteries seem to be better, and a lot cheaper.
Try out the Hercules saw the bear said it's pretty solid idk if its "contractor" grade but I mean for half the price of the dewalt and it's pretty much dead accurate cuts
Been working carpentry and maintenance for over 30 years, never seen a porter cable non bench tool that wasn't broken. Makita hand tools have a weird high frequency vibration that I find very uncomfortable to use for any length of time. I have DeWalt cordless drills that I have been using for 20 years. Had one fall off of a fifth floor balcony, and it still runs as good as new. My DeWalt mitre saw [ same one shown in this video ] is 15 years old and I have never had a single problem with it. It is a tank. Same with my routers, both full size and palm. I have never, not once, noticed my batteries being loose fitting. That said, my favorite circular saw is Milwaukee, and rotory hammer and jig saw, Bosch. I think that part of the problem might be buying tools online, something I absolutely refuse to do. Come to think of it, I don't buy anything online. I prefer to get a feel for something before I buy it, and that is something you just can't do unless you go to the store and check it out for yourself. I kind of feel like the things sold online might be store rejects.
"Makita hand tools have a weird high frequency vibration" lol what?
DeWalt is Black & Decker they just have different casing absolutely no difference between the two inside. And there crap both of them!!!
@@JDKunesI am well aware of who owns DeWalt tools, Having worked to cable one of their plants in the early 90's. You have your opinion and that is fine. All I can go on is over 30 years of experience using the tools in professional settings. In that experience, I have found them to be among the most reliable tools on the market. That said, my newest DeWalt tool is over twelve years old and running strong. Perhaps the quality has dropped off in recent years, I would not know, since I have not had to replace one in all that time.
Oh YEAH!... but not anymore, as their present day quality... er, Quality???
@@TRUE_GR1T my toolbox is 80 percent makita from most of my cordless to my saws and aircompressors and they do have a high pitch frequency in some of their motors that some people cant handle. I have a dewalt friend I was working with and he grabbed my skill saw and he couldn't even use it it killed his ears. Not a vibration but a frequency that buggs people. I didnt notice it until then but I've also been using makita for over 20 years
Been using Dewalt 20v drill/impact set for several years for DIY grade work with no problems. A little over a year ago, I was looking at more tools and was deciding if I wanted to "fully commit" into Dewalt 20v, or look into the alternatives. What made the decision for me was DeWalt's recent inroads into the outdoor tool market. It's nice having a cordless trimmer, blower, and hedge trimmer that use the same batteries as my drill and impact. When my push mower that I use to get into areas my riding mower can't dies, I'll likely get the DeWalt mower as well. Watch for sales and the prices are pretty competitive with the others. Shine on Red!
I've had an electric mower for years. I would never go back to gas for basic home use. They are so easy to use its ridiculous.
You meanie, I had to spend an hour consoling my DeWalt cordless, brushless, gutless drill.
;) :P
Sounds like you got the same drill I did XD The price was bad enough, but the buyers remorse didn't set until I tried to drill holes with it.
@@a89proof slightest load will cause mine to shut off. Compact brushless hammer drill
You guys are doing something wrong or using it beyond design load for some reason. Or you might be confusing with older NiCAD tools (18 volt) where the batteries age quickly. All my 20 volt lithium DW tools and batteries are flawless in performance. And I have certainly stressed my hammer drill in concrete this last summer in 95 deg. Weather. No problems.
You should've bought, a Milwaukee M18 Fuel Drill.
@@davidperry4013 my M18 fuel brushless i use at work came with the same defect with the trigger as did the reviews on their website unfortunately. Sent it in and came back like they never touched it. Border line with Milwaukee now, looking at Makita, maybe.
Cordless battery prices make no sense at all. I bought a craftsman cordless circular-saw for $64.95, it came with a fast charger AND a 4amp battery. A great deal. I could have bought just the battery for $99!!!!! WTF. The cordless power tool market has the worst pricing structure i've ever seen. And all the brands practice it. No matter what brand you choose, be carful when buying.
Max Burns the only way I feel I’m getting a deal is to stick with one brand. Once you have a charger and a few batteries, you can usually buy bare tools without batteries or charger for a decent price. But I agree with you. Once those battery’s don’t hold a charge they will be expensive to replace
Yep, same in UK, all drills are cheap, so when my batteries die I go an get a drill with 2 high amp batteries for 150quid as a battery on its own is bout 120 quid. New charger as well!
I agree, it's ridiculous! I've gotten a number of my Makita batteries by buying 36v tool sets when they're on turbo-sale, then I sell the dual-port charger and the tool for almost what I paid for the whole thing, and keep the batteries. I also wait for sales on batteries themselves, when they're $100 off a pack of two.
What I really want to do is get a tab welder and replace the old cells in the packs myself.
@@bmay8818 you can but I was told the circuit board in the top tells the battery charger its dead an won't allow it to charge? Not sure how true that is but I've seen makita circuit boards for sale on wish and Ebay.
Funny you mentioned the tools you've acquired. I have 3 brand new drills I purchased for $34.95 at Lowes, each with a charger and 2amp battery. I saved $135 AND I have 3 chargers and drills to sell off or use as back up. Who comes up with this stupid retail pricing?
We used DeWalt 12 Volt Drills for the first few years after B&D rebranded their Professional Line with great results. Once they brought out their 14.4 Volt tools the quality took a nosedive. We couldn’t get a drill to last 30 days without failing so we tried several different brands and eventually settled on Makita and have never looked back.
Agreed I used the dewalt 12 system until 3 years ago m it was cost prohibitive to continue buying the batteries for them , 25 years of use on that older system m now the new 20v replacements are junk, my older drills were pistol grip and it was alot easier to drive large screws with hand inline instead under the motor housing
The only reason I have DeWalt tools is because I received a gift kit for Christmas one year. Once you have a set of tools, you have to stick with that brand.
“just using my: BEAR hands” 🤣
All battery pricing is outrageous. They are there to entice you to buy kits. If you can’t figure that out then you ain’t too bright (not you bear).
they also use them for promos. Like buy a tool get a free battery. The inflated prices are there so you think you are getting a deal on a promo. Worst thing you can do is buy them bare. Every single tool company is guilty of this.
I like my DeWALT but with that said they are not the perfect tool.... I have to agree that HF has been stepping up their game on many products.
Oh boy Bear you've gone and riled the Hornets nest now!!! Lol
DeWalt has "Cordless earplugs" on their website.
Years ago I decided I needed to start buying some of my own power tools for work, I told my brother that my bosses all used DeWALT. He just said "don't make a tool brand choice based on social acceptance". After some trial and error and a little research I landed well past DeWALT.
Lots of people need peer affirmation of their consumer purchasing decisions. We need that acceptance, and a marketing department is glad to sell it to us!
@Robert Hunstable Milwaukee. I still have my first 12v Fuel Impact driver. The few tools I've had to replace were due to falling out of the work van going down the road or left behind at a job site.
So WHERE DID U LAND?? MAKITA??😮😊
@@PortDixieandTheJourneyDogs Milwaukee. Although, i do prefer how Makita 12v impact drivers feel in the hand. Don't own any
I used DeWalt drill impacts for 6 years straight, everyday. Used them all day long, drilling self tappers into metal doors. Never had an issue. We'd drop them on concert floor, accidentally and they'd get splattered with paint. They never failed. Strong tough drills. They are comfy in the hand also. I've used other drills and DeWalt have been the best in that aspect. Cant tell you about any other of their tools.
Well, I’ve read all of the comments about bad fitting batteries, burnt out tools and lots of very uneducated comments about battery management and I have never experienced any of these issue in a full range of DW tools which I really put through the paces this last summer driving hundreds of 3-4”; SPAX screws in treated wood. The 60 volt 7.25” saw is a beast even in damp treated wood. I have about 6 batteries ranging from 3 amp hour to big 20/60 Flexvolt batteries and they all perform flawlessly. They are rugged and solidly built. My batteries are used daily in 7.25” saw, jigsaw, oscillating tool, 4.5” grinder, sawzall, impact driver, router, masonry drilling, large leaf blower, weed eater, small chain saw, hedge clippers, portable plane etc. I have never had to replace a battery or charger. Bad experiences can be had if tools are abused or used outside their design uses. As for comments about the change of battery format a few years back, well, the shape of the individual cells is completely different between lithium and NiCAD/NiMH. They are nothing alike and format change had to come. Every tool brand had to face it. Everyone now uses the slide on format. It is dictated by the 18650 cell format. And all the major higher end tools use similar 18650s from reputable suppliers. The location of the BMS circuitry May vary but be assured they ALL use adequate and well designed battery management. The risk of not doing so would not be worth it. The circuit boards are made in vast quantities and are not a major cost in today’s world. At least DW produced a coupling device so you can use new lithium on older tools that used NiCAD. Works very well. Bottom line, there isn’t much difference between the major brands in reality. In proper use they all perform very well compared to a few years ago before lithium and brushless technology. I understand the need to feel good about what line you chose but there isn’t much difference at any performance and tranche level. My main criteria in choosing the brand I have is that the are rugged and have a very wide range of tools using the same batteries. My goal was to eliminate cords and gasoline. I have reached that goal. I no longer use gasoline and all the associated hassles. Once you have a few batteries it is very economical to expand your system buying “naked” tools. And the 8 volt small gyro screwdriver was used to assemble an entire kitchen. I love that thing. I always use that in preference to a 20 volt main tool when I can to drive screws and small nuts and bolts. I’m not a DW fanboy. I simply set my criteria and stuck to it. The result has been great for me. No problems or disappointments.
DeWalt Fanboi here. I've never owned any of the tools you've mentioned but I have a long list of their other power tools that get used daily with no complaints. I buy all my power tools from CPO and have never seen a 2 pack of the small batteries for $150. I've lost count of how many batteries i have but i can tell you I've never paid anywhere near $150 for a 2 pack. I think the last time i bought a 2 pack of batteries it was around $80-90 bucks. I've used other peoples Makita tools and from my experience the Makitas feel under-powered.
here's a list of the tools I have: 20v brushless large mouth portaband, 20v brushed grinder, 20v brushless grinder, 60v brushless grinder, 120v grinder, 120v jigsaw, 20v brushed drill, 20v brushed 1/4" impact, 20v led flashlight, 20v brushed 1/2" impact, 18v/20v shop vac, 20v brushless oscillating multi tool, 20v sawzall, 20v circular saw, 20v toughsystem jobsite radio, 20v heated jacket, 20v cutout tool, 20v chainsaw, 18v drill, 18v impact, 18v flashlight, 18v circular and I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple.
I'm going to be afraid when you post the Bosch video like this. The fit my hand so well then I'm willing to overlook performance issues for the ergonomics.
You're right about US products claiming to be US products. At my job we produce some building materials. One of our ingredients comes from Canada and for legal reasons we can't claim it as being made in the US on the labeling and barcodes.
My first cordless drill was a DeWalt back in 1997. It lasted until it crapped out completely about 6 years ago. I went with the Ridged 18v hammer drill. It’s been great for me as a DIYer.
Great vid as always. Gotta admit, I’m a total Milwaukee fan boy. Can’t help it, they have TTI reps in the HD’s, anytime I have an issue (their 18V 2 AH batteries suck, I’ve had quite a few right out of the kits that would not charge) I just walk into HD, give the battery to my TTI rep, and he hands me a new one right off the shelf. On that note, I have Ryobi, Rigid, Makita, and yes Dewalt. What I’ve noticed about Dewalt is they are by far the STINGIEST when it comes to batteries. What you gotta do to get them to break off a free Flexvolt battery is just insane! Milwaukee at least gives batteries away for free with lots of different kit options to purchase year round. For your next roast, I’ll vote Makita. They actually put on their package description that the ergonomics are designed to fit the human hand. Ya no s%*t Makita! What, you think bears are gonna start driving lag bolts with your impacts 😉!
The poor bear is going to be chased through the woods with pots and pans banging on this one.
I have the bad language filter turned on so any over the top posts get sent over to a holding queue. I just had to delete about 50 comments there. Granted they were all from like 5 people but those 5 seem dead set on lighting me on fire.
Can you talk about how porter cable was ruined please?
I know, I was supposed to have already done a history of PC. I'm a bad bear.
@@denoftools its alright, but it would be awesome to hear how PC went from woodworkers favorite to being murdered by B&D.
yes please do - i really want the inside scoop on this
I could not agree with you more ! Back in nicad days I had many thousands of $ invested in dewalt for my millwork shop and had 61-18v xrp batteries and brand new batteries would not charge but a few times then quit charging completely. I contacted the local dewalt rep and he was kind enough to replace 4 of the 61 batteries. It was close to Christmas so I told the guys in the shop I would give them everything 18v in the shop , just let me know who takes what , a couple guys even said no thanks.
I then got into the Milwaukee platform and lithium were just starting a that time but very limited in tool selection and told the local rep why I was switching and a few days later Milwaukee sent 2 boxes to the shop inside were 61 brand new Milwaukee batteries and 6 chargers , ( nicad) . I've been Milwaukee ever since then and also other brands in a few select tools that I just prefer over Milwaukee. I will never own another yellow tool in my lifetime!!!
I think the best part about this video was the pause for a dewalt commercial, hah
I worked security for a Dewalt/Porter Cable/B&D factory, for a couple of years. Almost all their parts were from everywhere except the USA! And back then, there were many shared internal parts. They did have some CNC equipment making a number of parts, I don't remember what they were, it it was so cool watching the process!
That's the case with every power tool manufacturer. Heck, Milwaukee is a foreign owned company and all the components are sourced from China.
While i have several Dewalt tools, I did this as a result of an initial purchase, and wanting to stay with one style of battery. That was the 18v tools that have been replaced by the 20v. Yes, I understand that, with an adapter, I can use the 20v battery. However, switching battery protocols seems like a way to make older, working tools obsolete so that you are forced to buy their new product line. For that alone, I have stopped buying anything Dewalt. When I need batteries now, I buy after market. If I seem to be bashing DeWalt because of this battery switch, Let me tell you about my investment in the 28v Milwaukee line. I would like to settle on one battery style from a reputable manufacturer, and while this battery style switch may be good marketing, I will switch to a manufacturer that sticks with their product line.
😂😂 dude 18v is the same as 20v😂 nothing got replaced. all 18v are 20v max.
Pretty sure most of the “built in the USA” tools are packaged here not even assembled here.
Always used makita on the jobsite for drills/impact. Some crew members abused the shit out of them, using the battery pack as a mallet to align a stud, tossing them off a 12ft scaffold onto the lawn, using them in the rain... Worked perfectly fine for YEARS. The only thing was the batteries would fry after a couple seasons sometimes because they were ran dry too often. Also used their (corded) circular (skil) saws and they were quiet, powerful, light, and durable. A little spendy at $250, but worth it. Their impacts are fairly cheap at about $120!
Those dewalt fanboys are going bear hunting in their ford pinto. Lol.
We Had a Ford Pinto wagon - with a v6 motor in it. it was a cool car. i wish i had it today. 🤣
Ilike your videos you do a great job,Back in the 1990's DeWalt was a good tool but if you use the 20volt's of today, for hard work they don't last long enough for the price, I have been in HVAC for three years and and have had two drills and three sawzall's burn out, within one year of buying them,the warranty as you pointed out is worthless, I have had better service from Harbor Freight Hercules tools and warranty,and wish they'd get there 20 vote Sawzall and circular saw and other tools out, I also really like the Bauer 20vote light,and jigsaw,they have been good tools for me, I always get the two years warranty,and if something happens, I just take it to the store and they give me a brand new one right then and there.
I think you are onto something here. I have a few Dewalt tools, but frankly Ryobi crushes them in reliability and value in the cordless space. Fanboys can look down their nose all they want while paying double and triple for less quality. I did everything I could to convince myself to buy a Dewalt "deal" for Father's Day but just could not justify going into a lower-powered battery line for much more money (2 4ah Ryobi @$99 plus free tool vs. 2 3ah Dewalt batteries @$149). Color determines reputation and how much some fanboy will spend on that tool.
Have had nothing but bad experiences with my DeWalt DCF850. Hammer failed after about 4 months of light use (mostly around the house for odd jobs). Had it replaced as it was still under warranty, and then the replacement failed after about 6 months. It is now a paperweight. Grabbed something from Milwaukee and have had no issues since.
The only reason why dewalt went down it’s because black and decker bought them after that they suck
He talks about Dewalt being overpriced and then refers to Fesstool 😂 lol So you want to compare a 600 dollar saw to an 1400 dollar saw!
I run DeWalt stuff. I think your critiques were spot on. I was lured in with a good deal on a starter set and some batteries on sale. Now to keep continuity with batteries I keep buying their stuff. I’m not complaining, but I’m not brand myopic either. I would never try to talk someone intoxicated brand. My guess 99% of people would be okay with HarborFreight’s middle of the road brand
I burned out both a cordless drill and the impact driver about 2 weeks apart.
Dewalts batteries are only cells and a temp sensor. They don’t even have a battery management system in the batteries like the Ryobi/Rigid/Old Craftsman C3 line. If you see a battery with individual cell pinouts on the exterior case then it doesn’t have a BMS.
Yeah, they try to put all that work on the drill itself.
Congrats Anthony Shelton! You have discovered a big truth! Lithum cell chemistry is very delicate indeed. Apart from the quality and robustness of the cell itself, the charging profile is what determines completeness of recharging and durability of the battery. Well designed rechargers are a huge difference in performance of the tool, but shortcuts in the circuitwill take a heavy toll on the performance of the battery, specially as it accumulates cycles and becomes "tired". I guess DeWALT's cheapo line uses less than correct chargers along with lower quality cells. Go figure.
As a mechanic I use the Milwaukee M18 and M12. They build the tools I need. They keep innovating. I have Milwaukee batteries that are 6 years old and just starting to show signs of weakening. Dewault batteries have always been their problem for me.
Jeff Genchi Milwaukee actually holds the patent for lithium ion power packs. So that makes sense theirs are the best
@@Halfstep2024All these tool brands uses rando jellybean battery cells from whatever asian electronics company actually makes the cells--the milwaukee patent is probably just for proprietary connection shape that locks you into their ecosystem so they can screw you or some shit.
Those stubby impacts are about as mush as innovative Milwaukee gets. Everything else is imitating makita the real innovators
@@antonylopez5742 Right on l
Milwaukee is a more expensive Ryobi, and that's it
As an automotive tech, I strongly prefer brushless motors in tools. Mostly whilst working on fuel pumps.
Don't really wanna kaboom myself.
I got started on Dewalt's 20v line because of their impacts I liked them a lot. Since I started collecting 20v batteries I started looking at other 20v stuff... Wound up with a string trimmer (highly recommend) a full size recip saw (gold) then found a good deal on the 20v chainsaw (pretty good- a few flaws) then I found a smoking deal on a 60v saw.... 😲 Now that one I'd give five stars to... So now I'm a flexvolt guy... All my dewalt tools make sense except for the dcd999.... I don't need a contractor grade hammer drill, I already had the atomic which is plenty for around the house... But it was on sale... And I already had the flexvolt batteries.... My biggest complaint with Dewalt is that they still don't offer a cordless ratchet wrench.... 🤔 Not even a brushed one.... ??? It'd be the perfect addition to the 12v line even...
Dewalt still does make *some* really nice tools, (I LOVE the gyro screwdriver), and I have NiCad and NiMH batteries that are more than 15 years old, but I stopped buying their cordless tools when they went to umpteen different battery platforms. Milwaukee covers just about every cordless tool imaginable with just two battery platforms. Had Dewalt stuck to that strategy, I would have stuck with them, but the profit is in the batteries, not in the tools and they got gready. As for Black + Decker, they went from awesome tools back in the day to absolute junk today.
As a side note, Dewalt produced a video stating how they were committed to their 18V platform, then within literally a few months announced the 20V platform. The video is probably still on CZcams.
Actually it's not 20V, it's "20V MAX". Basically, it's the same thing as 18V. Take a DeWalt 20V MAX battery and competing brand's 18V battery, fully charge them, and measure the voltage with a multimeter. They'll both be just over 20V. Apparently Milwaukee patented 18V Lithium-ion battery and DeWalt didn't want to pay for that, so they went with 20V MAX , which is a marketing tactic at the same time (uninformed people will see a drill that says 20V and another one that says 18V, they'll immediately think the 20V one is better because it's a higher number)
@@HCkev I think pretty much everyone knows that by now.
I’m a dewalt fan, not a FANBOY. I own many Makita tools.... but this is so true.
I just gave my Dewalt RAS 1946 to a friend that is a machinist and he loves it.
I bought a 12V nicad Dewilt drill in 2000 and it still runs fine (not a daily user though). Had to replace one of the batteries with a bootleg one. Overall happy with it.
The "Brushless/gluten free" on everything reminds me of Orville Redenbacher popcorn: "now Made with 100% wholegrain" Popcorn is a whole grain.
I agree on the batteries, was shocked to see the prices on those last time I checked. On another note, I have a DeWalt dual bevel sliding miter saw, only paid $350 for it and the quality of this thing is top notch. Nothing else comes close for the price. Actually overkill for the amount I'll actually use it. I also have an 18 volt drill of theirs bought maybe 5 years ago which came with 2 batteries at the time and its been great.
Get the batteries on Ebay. A 60v one is only $82.
everyone else's batteries are more expensive. also, on just like amazon a 5 ah is only $60
I had problems with dewalt too. Went through 2 drills in my kitchen reno.
I bought a impact drill set the drill burned up on the first use I wasn’t even going hard on it. I ended up returning it and getting a makita set. I don’t know why I even bought the dewalt I’m a makita guy.
Have you heard of a top of the line impact DCF887 smoking? VCG Construction did a review on this tool and they bought a few 3 or 4 smoked lol
Yep, a couple guys in the Den have mentioned that before.
Have an 886 it's tough as nails
@@brandonmurphy8837 they are all very solid tools just the 887 sucks.
My 886 and 888 both are awesome
Every brand has a lemon tool. They fix the problem and move on. Doesn't mean DeWalt sucks as a brand because of the 887. I watched VCG smoke the 887, I own the 887 and kick it's ass everyday. I've never had one single issue with it.
a 2 pack of those is only 99$ where i live. two 6 amp hour flexvolt batteries can be found for 179$ your battery prices wayyyy are off
based on your search. thats from home depots store site. home depot is a rip off! especially in store! they sell the compact and non compact 3 amp hours for the same price for 99$ near me
as for chargers. when you buy a drill for 99$ you get 3 amp hours worth of batteries and a charger. my tools almost all came with chargers. thats why i got 7 docking ports! and again this is on home depots site.
as for the stand. my friend has had his for 6 years with no issue and he handles hundreds of apartment units a year in trim. my other friend has had his for 3 and its as rock solid as my new one
the drill is a basic model. of course for good reason it is gutless. its only a hundred dollars and it comes with the charger, batteries and a bag. when was the last time you carried a drill in a blow molded case? my first dewalt bag now carries all my batteries for a whole days work. its recyclable within my tool ecosystem . the Hercules when tested by AvE lied about its battery stats its closer to one of dewalts batteries in amp hour.
the brush less impact orbital was actually on a special where you could get it for free with the premium tool kit(xr drill and impact)
as for miter saws. DeWalt has the best cordless miter saw which for even me as a finish trim carpenter. is very practical as outlets are never reliable now a days. with the flexvolt system it is just as powerful as any corded miter saw. that i can attest.
also if your bashing on their stand for a few rare reviews of poor quality. knock on festool. they are the only miter saw that has a serious issue with motor burnout.
bosh are not cordless. Milwaukee is under powered as is makita.
as for built in the USA assembly is the most labour intensive part of making any product so. putting the tools together here with our labour costs is no small feat
I have an 18v dewalt drill that i've had for 12yrs and still works great. Now the Miter saw, i was at a Flea Market and bought a Chicago Electric 12" compound miter saw with 2 dewalt blades (brand new unopened) for $40. The guy had bought it to cut trim for his bathroom and ended up hiring the job out instead. Saw looked brand new. Anyway, i was doing a job at my church and another member said use my Dewalt miter saw, it'll cut better than that Harbor freight. The stand (mentioned in this video) everything you said is true about the stand and miter saw. The stand was flimsy feeling and i was not confident cutting on it.Cumbersome pulling boards across it, it's designed to have the feed side flip in the wrong direction. Pull stock left to right and it would flip back down. The Dewalt miter saw didn't have the power (bog down cross cutting 10" board) and didn't have the reach for cross cutting that my harbor freight saw that i got for $40. I had they guy who owned the Dewalt try the difference and even though he agreed with me, refused to say the Harbor Freight worked better. I still have that saw in my shop and still works perfectly.
Once had a truck full of DeWalt. No longer. If nothing else, learned the foolishness of brand loyalty.
I might agree with you to a certain extent on their 20v brushed line and some brushless but their 60v line is top of the line i use them professionally everyday and a 6ah 60v battery will last a long time and with their fast charger which isn't the one you showed they will charge from zero to full in well under an hour. I get what you are saying but it's not all the way true on the cordless tools... well just hang tight and i will show you. Thanks for the video bear.
I'm also not sure what store has that price on the batteries because you can get 2 5ah xr batteries on amazon for 129.99, a 60v 6ah battery for 98, and 2 2ah batteries for 99 but that price is crazy lol.
Yep, their 60V stuff is great. And that's what I was getting at. Their high-end stuff is all good to great. Its just the low to mid-tier stuff that has issues.
@Hell's favorite NPC #69OU812 . exe I sadly have not. My boss buys almost all dewalt but we usually end up not using them for anything too rough.
I use dewalt 20v and 60v flexvolt line cuz I can slap that 60v battery in either set. It's like with any tool it don't matter what brand what matters is does it get the job done and how well are you maintaining it. Sorry any and all tools mine or someone else's I clean and its put back where I got or brought back looking better then when I got it.
@@KnKDarkLotus we use the 20 volt line but we have the shit batteries. Our drills are used as drills. We don't clean them or anything. Slap the battery in and go.
All i use is 20v XR they are great..i would like to switch to the milwakee because they have a wider selection of tools but i have so much money invested in yellow
DiYer here…Yes the DeWalt battery rattles a tiny bit on my combi drill, but on the circ saw, jigsaw, planer, router, recip saw, sander and osc multi tool the battery fits snug. This is 3 years on..but batt prices have dropped to 60bucks for a 5ahr. The drill in the video is the bottom range intended for light use..my mid range (796) 400w combi drill is plenty powerful and the top drill (996) is over 800w. For non-professionals a single batt platform is much more affordable than having six makes, so every top brand accrues its own fan base.
When B & D bought DeWalt, their Execs started the Original Tool Co. and continued making Radial Arm Saws. The company is still in business today and still sell radial arm saws, primarily to industrial customers.
Nope. DW decided they wanted out of the RAS biz so they sold the whole division to the two guys running it. This was at their Lancaster plant so they called the new company Lancaster Machine Co. Those guys did a horrible job with it and LM Co. went belly up about two years later. It was then bought by Robert Eden, a major parts supplier to LM Co. He renamed it Original Saw Company. The rest is correct. You should check out my video, A Brief History of DeWALT.
No a fanboy but dewalt is good enough for me. If i had a chance to choose now, I would of bought Milwaukee. My dad was a dewalt guy and after he passed I inherited all his dewalt tools and I already had some of my own. I didn't feel like investing in a different brand cause I already had a bunch of batteries and tools. U r right though bear. Oh and thanks for your reviews and posts in the harbor freight group on facebook.
It wasn’t too long ago that BNSF Railway made everyone go through their tools and ‘dispose’ of all of the ‘non union made’ tools. Basically, all of our power tools were Milwaukee, and the Union made everyone go to companies like DeWalt, which are Union made. Needless to say, most of us ended up with lots of free Milwaukee tools.
@you build it we destroy it Oh that's just the parts, the tools themselves are assembled in the good old US of A. Good enough for the shills running the unions.
One more reason I will never work for a union again. Meanwhile they take your money and throw parties er um training exercises in the Bahamas.
I'm 3 years late but most tools have batteries that are loose due to when you use them in dirty places over time the battery will still fit after it gets gunk in it. That's what a certain tool engineer told me.
Our test was simple. I worked with DirecTV. We bought 5000 Dewalt drills , 5000 Milwaukee drills, and 5000 Makita drills, the flagship tools of these brands only. Dewalt's lasted 3 months and failed from chuck, motor and transmission failures. Milwaukee drills lasted one year and failed from switch burnout, chuck breakage and motor burnout. The Makita drills on on there 3rd year and only 10% were lost to a few various failures. As for batteries, many are still using original batteries on their Makita's and still hold full charge. We saved a fortune going blue.
I'm a big fan of Makita. I know right now it's trendy to jump on the red bandwagon but I think people are missing out.
I remember being able to buy dewalt tools at Wal-mart when i was a teenager. At the same time Wal-mart was selling Black & Decker Quantum Pro tools that were the exact same tool as Dewalt only green. Or maybe i should reverse that
@Warren j we gotta stick together
At least my old (1992) Black and Decker palm sander is IDENTICAL to the DeWALT one... IDENTICAL!
that gyro screwdriver was actually my first dewalt tool lol
He broke it with his bear hands
So right about DeWalt batteries, there junk, spent hundreds on these things like a fool. Even tryed the quick fixes wit zapping then, only lasted a short time.
My Makita battery last forever one of these is 8 years old.
My DW batteries have lasted very well under regular use in tools and garden tools. Had them for about three years. No issues in 20 volt batteries at all. The old NiCAD batteries were poor in all brands by comparison. The circuitry and battery management boards in the 20 volt max batteries are comprehensive in function and robustly built.
DeWalt batteries are far from junk. They use high quality Samsung 18650 cells.
They only put the freakin clam shell together here in the USA. They put the assembled parts in the clam shell on and call it assembled in the USA. Technically it is but it’s a little misleading
Adam Garrity I keep hearing this bullshit. Wether it is made or assembled. It is a job here in the US. I can’t wait till red china is forced to do the same thing with these tariffs put in effect. Then the red China fan boys will be pounding their chests over the same “assembled in USA”.
Renaissance Man Hey Renman. I’m really glad to hear from you. I do agree jobs in the USA is a good thing. Feel bad you haven’t been back to the VCG. I think your a good man and appreciate all your efforts coming in and doing videos on the VCG. Hope to see you come back one day. Main reason I have Milwaukee as my main tools is because I started out on the battery platform and work mainly on automotive as a locksmith for mainly cars. Milwaukee has a better line of tools for auto. I hope they bring there jobs back to the USA. Anyway always good to hear from you.
Ya and making poor quality tools also creates more jobs for the service techs
I have been using DeWalt since the late 90's when the 18v DeWalt drill was the tool to have. Cabinet maker 13 years now electrician for 13 years. I believe Milwaukee defiantly has the market with innovation and I'll go as far to say quality, however I can get nearly twice the DeWalt as I can Milwaukee. As far as the loose battery I have encountered this with Milwaukee countless times and have never in my personal line of 20v DeWalt XR stuff which has been used on the job. With all that said though I believe my personal tools would out preform most others because I take care of them and use them correctly. I use good sharp bits, listen to them, and step up to the proper tool when needed. I had a Greenlee 7/8 carbide hole saw cup last me 1 1/2 years drilling purlins, I-beams, and electrical boxes weekly until I let someone else use it one time.
I'm a mechanic, and I use a 3/8 dewalt battery impact driver(20v max XR 4 amp/h), I have never run the battery dead, not even once. It's an absolute tank.
DeWalt batteries are not as bad as he made them out to be. They use high quality Samsung 18650 cells. Typically when people complain about their 20V batteries sucking, it's because they bought old stock that sat on the shelf for so long that the cells degraded and lost some of their original capacity. That's something to be wary of when buying batteries from 3rd party sellers on places like Amazon. You don't necessarily know how old the "new" batteries are.
@@karlschauff7989 haha 5 minutes ago I was doing my weekly cleaning/organizing of my tool wagon prepping for the next week, including putting my batteries on chargers. So one year after the above comment, my dewalt 3/8 and 1/2 impacts are still flawless. I think the 3/8 impact and it's battery are 3 years old now. Batteries were even putting out enough power a couple weeks ago when it was below 0F. And I'm sure you know this, but for anyone else reading - it's not only the quality and age of the cells that go into a battery pack, it's also the durability of the plastic case and the electrical stuff inside. Dewalt may use the same cells as everyone else, but the build quality means that dropping a tool isn't a death sentence.
Brushless is going to give a noticeable torque boost due to a lack of brush friction as well as a consequent 20-25% increase in battery charge capability due to the lessened friction and heat losses. Properly engineered it is definitely worth the price difference in an average cabinet shop from saved battery cost. That said, I go Makita (18v) and Bosch (12v) depending on application.
The key words there are "properly engineered". That entry-level brushless stuff is a joke. I'm working on a video to educate people on the science and issues with implementation that they need to consider.
James Oliver you know what else gives you longer charge and more torque? A corded drill 😝 just fuckin with ya man
@@denoftools I look forward to that video..!!
Dang I’m glad I fell into Milwaukee. Much better 12V system, I hate how the battery on the deWalt 12V stuff is nearly the same size as the 20V stuff. and wider array of tools in the 18-24V lines.
Can’t wait to see your Milwaukee slam video! But lm not sure if it’ll play on my Milwaukee TV and I probably won’t be able to see it because I’ll be too busy using my new M18 fuel vacuum cleaner. 😂😂
I recently purchased the DeWalt DHS790 120v 12" miter saw (tool only). So far, I'm really happy with it. The good news is, if my loan is approved I'll be able buy the batteries too. Thanks for the video. Keep up the good work. Oohrah!
I love my dewalt grinders use them a lot for welding. Makita grinders are great to
You do realize they already have 96 volt systems complete with small lightweight 100ah batteries however their knowledge that sheeple fell off the turnip truck yesterday has enabled them to Dole the technology out incrementally making sure that everyone that is buying these systems have invested heavily acquiring every tool they need before releasing the newest latest and greatest.. all planned well in advance.. after you spend every dime you made, they then announce a better one is available, and of course nothing is compatible with what you already bought and own.. I hate it.. even though I know the new 30 volt is coming next year I still need to buy an 18 volt system.. and of course as soon as I have everything I need, Christmas is coming and so are the 30 volt tools
Glad I went with Makita I always thought DeWalt tools just looked like a kids toy you would play in the sandbox with 🤣
Bought a Harbor Freight portable band saw, returned it before opening
because I found a DeWALT portable band saw for $99 at a pawn shop a few days later
i feel like the biggest reason for DeWalt's proliferation in the trades is that they have branded themselves to be the Budweiser of power tools. It's not so much the argument that they are the best, it's that they are available at about 75% of places tools are commonly sold. ALL of the big box home improvement stores, most hardware stores, and many if not a majority of trade-specific supply houses and places like Grainger carry DeWalt. Between this and the fact that they keep the buy-in price on a lot of the kit deals pretty reasonable, they've made it pretty much the accepted lowest common denominator for contractors and guys in the trades looking to tool up without putting too much thought into the intricacies and minute details of said tools.
It's one thing to be enamored with the latest high-end offerings from team Teal or Red for personal use and another to be a GC or business owner that's buying tools for other workers that you know are going to get thrashed.
Have a drill and circular from 1993 14.4 volts and they still work, when the last time you seen a v18 milwaukee