Mizuno ST230 Driver Review
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- Mark Crossfield tests the new Mizuno ST230 Drivers in this full review. Watch the video to see how they compare to other drivers and which one comes out on top. Remember to like, comment, and subscribe for more golf equipment reviews! Thank you all for your support.
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The STZ220 changed my game massively last year. Got me from 5 to scratch, and it's been the biggest weapon in my bag. It performs just as good or better than any driver out there and don't plan on changing.
Got to say great effort 5-0 Boom. but clubs will only help you so far. You still make the difference it might just make you feel better to perform closer to your max. Still you. But Mizuno are great clubs
@@Critic606 Thanks, I mean somewhat agree it was well overdue lol. Nike Covert 1.0 was completely worthless no spin whatsoever on drives and no forgiveness. The STZ you can mishit and get away with 90% of the time, and with better tech, it just performs a lot better. The one thing the 220 lacks is ball speed I can't really top 160-165, but 300 in play and workable is way better than 320+ and in the woods.
@@Brady8812 Great points.
@@Brady8812would there be a big diff. In distance between the 220z v 230z? If hit in the middle or anywhere else on the face
@@conalsands4748 I saw a few mph of ball speed but not much in distance maybe a yard if that. 220 very good.
Hey Mark, Just so you know. The Mizuno drivers are selling here in the US for $499 USD. Compare to Callaway, and Taylormade at $599 USD - ish. Cobra and PING are in the middle at $549 USD.
How do you know already? None have been released in the US yet, right?
@@christophersiegert8343 you can pre-order them at most golf stores.
Some PXG drivers are or have been $129-$199. Hmm
@@christophersiegert8343 - They are already selling them in stores and on line. You have to order them, but they are certainly for sale. Check out your favorite golf retailer's webpage. Take care.
@@christophersiegert8343 website shows pricing
Fantastic presentation on the 2023 reviews, and your integrity is always appreciated!
Got a STZ 220 last summer for under $200 USD and it ended up kicking out my Cobra Speedzone I had for 2 years out of the bag. It's a phenomenal value driver that is a fairway machine. My only complaint (as it also seems with most people) is it lacked the distance. Mizuno was even aware it needed to spin less and that what the new CORTECH is the answer to. If the 220 is of any indication, I'd be excited to give this a try when its sub $300 in September of this year.
The ST-Z 220 was the best value in golf last year by a mile. Incredible performer. As long as anything and you really had to put a horrific swing on it to not be in the fairway. If they improved at all on last years model, I’m all in. Otherwise the ST-Z220 is firmly in the bag.
So have you read anywhere or even better- got first hand experience in hitting both and seeing if the 230 is worth going for over the 220?
I've been converting my bag to almost all Mizuno over the past year. Just added the STZ 220 driver at a discounted price. I have confidence in their products.
In my humble … your club reviews are the best on the tube
You make stats interesting and cut through the manufacturers blurb perfectly for the layman
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I own and absolutely love the STZ 220. I find it both long enough and more forgiving than the "big" brands. I will take my 255 carry on the fairway over 270 God Knows Where thank you very much. I have both the D and 3w. Honestly... people are missing the boat because they are LEMMINGS and buy what the Marketing and you tubers tell them, or the tour pros are playing. Mizuno could vastly improve their market share, in my opinion, cutting checks to the right players. Are they good? Damn right they are
I have played the 190 for 3 years now and love it.
I went to golf tec the other day to get fit. Told the pga professional that I didn't have a club in mind just wanted what was best for me. In the back of my mind I "knew" I'd leave with a Callaway or a TaylorMade driver. I was fit for the stealth 2, paradym, g430, tsr3 and 4, as well as the st-z and x. I hit multiple shaft combinations with each head. I was floored with how much better the Mizuno preformed than the others. 25 yards longer than my TM sim and way straighter than the other I was fitted for. TBH Mizuno wasn't even on my radar as to a club to try. If they get better at marketing they could make a run at the top.
all the new drivers are exceptional. The big difference of purchase is how it looks at address, and how much confidence you have to hit it.
Mark, you called it at the end of the video. When I was looking for a new driver recently I couldn't find any retailer locally (Hertfordshire) who stocked Mizuno to look at. So with no incentive to go looking, I didn't and just looked at the 'major' brands which were available.
Well done Mark!! You got me to comment…. I played Mizuno irons for DECADES. I even played their woods (driver and fairway) for years!! I now play a Srixon driver (love it) and would’ve considered a Mizuno driver but the reason I didn’t is one word. AVAILABILITY. In Canada, you can’t find a Mizuno wood of any sort, anywhere, EVER. If they had a DTC option, I might’ve continued on with Mizuno. Alas, I have left their camp and am now in the Srixon camp, simply because it was the best driver for me (from what I could swing). Keep up the good work!! Love the new logo, not sure about the wavey bits on Instafamous, but I can live with them.
I play the original STz, but the face caved in just a little bit on the high middle of the face recently, so I am looking forward to trying the STz 230. I love the forgiveness of those drivers. Ball speed off the heel is especially good (one of my many misses).
100% I will try this driver out. I'm still gaming an ST190 that I got brand new a few years back for $180 and it's the best club I've ever owned. Purely anecdotal but the performance I experience on miss-hits sometimes still stuns me.
Long time Mizuno player here. Got the ST-Z 200 and it just rips! As good or better as anything out there. Get a good fitting, as always regardless of brand, and enjoy your long bombs 💥
Mark I should now be in Bonn Germany ( but the flight got canceled, so I go Tuesday now ) to get fitted for my new irons, wedges & possibly woods with my friend Sinjin McNab. I have had Mizuno woods in the past and found them to be quality but never had them fitted so hopefully with the irons, Wedges & woods all fitted I should find an improvement. But at 67 years of age and playing off 3 to 5 handicap I am looking for help with club speed and maximizing distance with what fuel I have got left in my swing tank. Thanks for the review. I’m loving your new format it’s crisp and concise, well done
Absolutely will test it out. Play their irons but have never hit a driver. In the market for a new driver so will give it a test. Thanks for the review.
I looked at your reviews before going for my fitting. Fitted for the X which surprised me but hit this one so much better and further. Retail price was £449, traded in my driver for £149 so a £300 Mizuno driver, absolute bargain.
Gamed the original STZ for almost 2 seasons before it got beat out by my current driver. Original STZ was a fantastic fairway finder and had a nice high launch which at the time was fantastic but tough to play on a windy day. More people should be looking at their metal woods as opposed to just the irons.
I tried everything on the market this year, paradym, Stealth 2, 430. Honestly pay the extra $100 for the name and look on your driver. But the real performance I saw was the ST230Z. Don’t care if I’m 290 in the middle of the fairway, better than being 310 in the woods. Mizuno is highly overlooked this year and happily threw a driver and 3 wood in the bag.
I liked the way it looked. Knowing that any of the top drivers were going to perform the same, I purchased it online. No surprise…worked great. Did it lower my scores? Of course not. Happy with the purchase? Absolutely
I have played the ST 190, STZ and I just picked up a brand new STZ 220 for $170 USD on Ebay a couple months ago. I will buy this STZ 230 for about the same price next fall. I like getting a new driver head each year and Mizuno allows me to do it on the cheap! I always play Mizuno irons and pay full price, however.
Played the last few years of Mizuno drivers and absolutely loved them. Then I did a driver fitting and found out I need a flat setting in my driver which led me to Titleist. The Mizuno drivers, pound for pound, are as good as anything out there, but make sure you get fitted. Don’t fall in love with a brand because at the end of the day, they aren’t paying you for it.
What does that mean, a flat setting? Maybe I'm not versed enough....
@@Kurtyler most drivers allow you to set the head upright for their lie angle, Titleist is one of the few that allows you to set the lie angle to flat. If you look at the Titleist surefit adapter chart you’ll see.
@@Shipwreck15151 PXG gen 5 and new Gen 6 0311 drivers as well!
I played a Mizuno driver, so I'm happy to give it a try. A year from now. I'm not paying $600 when I can get an 18 month old driver for $200 in new condition.
Currently have the STG-220 in the bag, awesome looks awesome feel and sound. Bomb monster
I purchased my Mizuno STX 9.5 degree a month ago, and I am hitting some of the best drives of my life. I was inconsistent with my Callaway Epic Flash and missed in both directions. I have the STX set at 9.5 degrees and upright. I am hitting straight to 5-yard fads on command. Please don't sleep on this driver and give it a try.
I was really happy with my Mizuno driver early 2000's. I would love to get it back and try it today.
10 years since playing Mizuno driver and am looking fwd to trying these out. Driver is the straightest club in the bag, currently EPIC max LS, don't fade it so both models s/b ok. At age 70+ swing speed has suffered and tops out in high 80's (good drive is 220/230), theoretically I shouldn't play an LS but the roll out helps a lot. Going to experiment with lighter shaft and more spin with these to see what's best.
I will try it. I've been playing a Mizuno driver the last 2 years and love it.
Please do more reviews like this in 2024!!!!! Been a fan since the old days
If I ever bought a Mizuno driver based on performance only, the first thing I would do is buy a can of mat black paint and spray it on the top of the head. That shiny finish really puts me off.
Thanks Mark good review. 👍
Best review on these so far! 3rd I’ve watched this evening, no bs again just another professional review.
Thanks
I picked up an X for $100. It was "Used in Mint condition ", and yeah it looked like was maybe used in a photoshoot. It did not have a single scuff on it. I love it hits well and I like the sound of it! 👍🏼
Fitted for STZ on Saturday 7mph ball speed better than my stealth Unbelievable Jeff stealth for sale 👏 👍 😀
Got a demo STX. It's extremely forgiving for my swing. I upgrade every 10 yrs and this looks like it's going in my bag. - with my Mizuno irons and Mizuno putter I should add....Great vid Mark Thanks for posting...
Being a bit of a hoarder, i have many shafts with cally titleist or TM tips but none for mizuno. Driver tech COR being limited and maxxed out, I am buying forgiveness and maxing spin, launch and centred strikes. I will gravitate to a driver where I can swap out some shafts to find it.
Have been watching around 8 months. I really appreciate you being as honest as you can be about all the clubs that you review. That helps the average players. The driver that I am gaming at the moment is 7yrs old and doesn’t fit my swing anymore. I am going to get a new driver this year. Definitely going to get fitted for the new one. The number one driver on my list to test is the Mizuno. I agree with you, in that everyone relates Mizuno with irons and they don’t get the credit they deserve for their drivers. Keep up the great work. Thanks
Great review Mark great looking woods have used Mizuno and very nice. Currently using Titleist and my handicap came down from 22.3 to 15.3 so my lowest yet! My current golf club shop stocks Ping, Taylormade and Callaway all great brands. I prefer to support my local pro and it’s easier to try and purchase at your own club plus we get demo days with the manufacturer. Trouble is other great brands like Srixon, Wilson, Cobra and Mizuno
Means a round trip of 50 miles and not everybody stocks those brands so I feel sorry that they are often ignored. I do think having a fitting with the manufacturer or your local pro is the way to go. The big 4 Titleist, Taylormade, Callaway and Ping seem to have the monopoly when it comes to stockists and perhaps ego comes into the purchasing experience.
Please make the Hack It Out pod available on CZcams! Would enjoy it even more being able to see you all.
Hit the STX at the PGA Demo Day. Loved it. One of the best feeling and sounding heads at there.
Started 3 years ago with a mint JPX-900 for $90. I loved the versatility and going to the range to dial it into my liking. Then a year later I found an insane deal on a brand new ST-200 for $150 and the improvement in those few years was drastic for me. I cant wait to see these fly under the radar as everyone goes for the Stealth 2 or g430 drivers and these go on ridiculous sale in the coming year
I'm still gaming the ST190 and I'm still loving it. I haven't seen enough performance difference in any of the newer drivers to fork out the money.
I’m a fan. I started like most with the irons - mp20 MMC, and then wedges, then last year switched to the stz-220. In fact I splashed on the heritage version, the blue one. No regrets, the numbers were better than my old Srixon zx7. I can’t afford to get the new one but I would if I had the cash.
I would definitely try and potentially buy one of these Mizuno drivers. Love my Mizuno 921 hot metal irons and hybrids. That makes me very open to any and all Miz products. Brand loyalty is certainly a thing and I guess I’m living proof as I also own Mizuno tennis shoes!
Love the pondering the vastness of the cosmos look! Well done Crossy!!!
I play the ST190. Love the club for the past 3+ years. Getting fitted at TXG and will bring the club to get a comparison.
Hey Mark - Good and honest video as always.... Have you considered shaft length here? Its .75" shorter than everything else on the market today? So that will be a factor why its at 162mph vs high 160's? Perhaps try with the same length shaft as everything else and report back? (Mizuno fan boy, very protective of my baby) :-)
I think it’s if you are a Titleist wood fan with the simple black crown and shape, understated, Mizuno drivers are a great alternative at a lower price point. But I guess same goes for irons
I got an ST-G 200 last year (at half price - I wasn't looking for a new driver) and I like it. Whether is was any better than my Cobra F9 is questionable.
I would / will not be testing drivers just for the sake of it and feel that the year on year increments the manufacturers make is just marketing hype. Your videos kind of prove it.
I obviously still watched this because I'm interested in your opinion on these clubs especially because of where Mizuno sit in the driver market.
Another great review Mark ! I’ve never played a mizuno driver but I’ve always wanted to give them a try. my 2016 M2 was just outperformed by TSR2, better smash, Gained 5 yards of carry (average) and 8.5 yards best shot to best shot, about 3 mph more ball speed and better overall spin. Love the looks of the new ST230 and if I were to play it most likely it’ll be the Z
I have the 190 and have enjoyed it for several years. I'll definitely try the new 230. love the little blue accents and I'm excited to see what the last few years of gradual improvement have created.
Sold my fitted Titleist TSR3 w/ Velocore shaft and switched to an off-the-shelf, used, $230 ST-X with a Kai-li Blue shaft and the different is absurd. Pound for pound I can probably hit the TSR3 further, but the ST-X never EVER goes wrong for me, regardless of where I hit it on the face, where the TSR3 is ALWAYS threatening to come off the face with a huge slice. I like the feel and sound of the ST-X a lot better, too.
Love that you separate and show your warm ups. 👍
I've got a Mizuno Bluie (ST180) that I've been gaming for several years. I've got a newer STZ that hasn't made it's way into my bag yet.
Great new format. I really liked when you compared your gamer to the review. Just adds some context. Thx!
0:23 Jeez Mark... I been sipping a drink I would have ruined my keyboard! Ha!
Hey Mark. Great review. Of the 2023 drivers you’ve tested. Which would you pick? Paradyme? Or something else
Great review! I’m using the ST-Z and it’s a wonderful driver. It’s also a nice complement to my 221 blades
Totally agree on pricing.. They could be more aggressive for a few years to gain marketshare..
I would try it. For no other reason than to see which brand and club worked best for me. As you noted there’s really no difference in drivers just subject to what works best for you.
Have got the St 220 driver and 3 wood plus the JPX hybrid do love my Mizuno Woods
I remember forever ago watching a TaylorMade video, and Sergio Garcia among other TM staffers, were using draw bias weighting in their drivers, and I remember Sergio explaining that it feels easier to square up the face that way to him, others said similar things like it made turning the ball over easier where they could always fade it, and others said they grew up playing a driver weighted that way and it just felt better to them. Anyway, I think people would be shocked by the number of the best golfers in the world who prefer their driver weighted that way.
I'm on my second set of Mizuno irons, which eqautes to 20 years. In that time I've had...8-10 drivers. When I've gone to buy a new driver, I've just never seen Mizuno drivers on the shelf to test. Simple as that.
I still game ST190 and will always give Mizuno a test until they demonstrate a lack of performance. I've nearly given up on TM as I don't seem to get along with Twist Face and I struggle with the shaping of other drivers from Callaway & Cobra. I'll always give Titleist a chance and will experiment with brands like Srixon - even Wilson with the new release. Also, pricing according to MyGolfSpy, is at $499 US for the 230 ST-Z & ST-X.
Accidentally bought an ST200 X on eBay last year thinking it had the characteristics of the Z (bargain deal) and was very pleasantly surprised with how neutrally it sat, how easy it was to hit and didn’t get hooks which was my fear and tendency. Makes sense based on what Mark says here. Comes off fast as well. Still in the bag at home for when I return annually. Sure these are even better.
I purchased the STZ-220 at the tail end of last season, simply because it was discounted by several hundred dollars and I wanted something new and shiny and I'm a Mizuno iron fan. It replaced my Ping G400 which of course was also great, just wanted a change after 4 years.. Haven't played enough rounds with it for a full comparison, but thus far it's been performing as good or better as the Ping in terms of fairways hit and carry distance - but it had an advantage since it got in the bag at the end of the season when my own numbers are generally at their peak.. :-)
Mizuno make lots of great clubs, always have done. Gamed MP001 for years and to be honest should never have switched
Looking at trying a 2022 STZ to replace my Maverick, price is Very good currently and seem to match anything from the BIG NOISES in drivers. I also think they are a brilliant brand, quality, respected and quietly cool imo
I’ve been playing the last two STX models (currently STX220)
of Mizuno drivers after years of Callaway and Taylormade . I will stack these up with any other brand. Once people stop with the hyperbolic rhetoric and try these they will see Mizuno makes a great product.
Over and over I see ridiculous comments from people hanging on to perceptions from 20 years ago.
I have JPX-921 Hot Metal irons and wedges and they are stellar. I’ve had many other iron brands in the bag and these are my solid gold. I’ve owned a few Mizuno drivers like ST-180 and ST-200 but they didn’t rock my world. If Mizuno wants to get a piece of the market they need to tantalize the golfers with not only superior performance, but an attractive PRICE below others to lure golfers into buying them. Pricing them sub par with the others that perform equally well will not win over many. It’s a wrong strategy by Mizuno in my opinion.
I swapped out my ping g425 for a st90 last year and for me it was just so much more reliable, so I would test and possibly game this driver 💯
For me, I'm not going to try it this year because the Callaway is just the best of the bunch this cycle. I would absolutely game a Mizuno driver though. Unfortunately most stores where I am don't have Mizuno drivers to test, and even fewer are going to have them left handed. It seems like one of those problems that frankly needs to be solved with good marketing and better logistics with stores. They need to take a big risk if they want to get their drivers to move up the ranks. More aggressive marketing and being willing to produce more than you think you might sell is going to be essential for Mizuno. That said, Mizuno is not known for risk-taking. They play it safe, and that's the big issue I think.
Mark. Would like to Try a mizuno driver, but getting hold of and testing product is tough. I can test a Stealth/ calllaway almost everywhere.
Saw another review where the tester commented on the shaft length, which is 45 inches. Perhaps at 45 and 3/4, the swing speed and ball speed would have been higher.
I absolutely love the look of it and would definitely buy one if I needed a new driver, which unfortunately, I don't. I retired my old JPX 900 driver last year, and bought the Cleveland Launcher XL. Jury is still out on that decision, but it is too soon to spend over Au$700 just because I love the look of the new Mizuno.
Lovely shirt Mark, quality review
About fell out of my chair when you pronounced the letter “z” correctly! 😂🇺🇸🇺🇸
I think the most reasons no one tries Mizuno Drivers is that they don't build a confidence level like the other brands, no matter how good they are.
I think TM, PING, COBRA, Callaway & Titleist are the TOP brands that build confidence in USING & making a driver purchase, as they just work and HAVE BEEN for 30 years now.
I did bag the Mizuno Forged T -Zoid driver when it came out as it worked well, after 2 years of using it I went back to Ping drivers!
Never even thought about trying a Mizuno again, don't know why either.
Really like the way Mizuno driver's have looked for the last few years. I think they really turned around their appeal in that matter. Always wanted to game one for a bit. BUT I agree with what mark said they are too expensive for a driver that is just not at the top of the driver market.
great video....which driver head do you think would suit me most ? age is 58....9 to 11 handi cap....driver swing speed 90-94...hit a fairly high straight ball and currently use a regular flex shaft and spin rates of 2700 to 3200....cheers from Canada
Hi Mark, great info as always. I am a great Mizuno fan and have been for a long time. My first irons were the T-Zoids some years ago and have been using their drivers now for the last six years and I love them, the look the fell. I'm sure we can all agree there is always room for improvement especially in driving. I currently have the ST 220Z, so not in a rush to replace yet but would love to try the 230 to compare for me.
Agree with T Zoid, still use the 3-5 and MP64 6-W with an ST190 driver (that hits fairways) replacing the great MP001.
It’s the marketing or lack there of… I went for a fitting and I picked two brands Callaway and TaylorMade and I let the fitter pick the third. I was blown away with the feel and performance walked in wanting Paradym walked out with STZ a club not even on my radar…
Picked one up in December, technically second hand, but practically new for 299 EUR already. Same shaft weight as my old 2014 gamer from Callaway so I figured I could take the risk with 10 years of advancements. Love it but takes a bit getting used to for me personally as I seem to have been manipulating the (lighter? less MOI?) clubhead for a couple of years into a draw - this Z just wants to square itself up more, which is probably for the better in the longer run - just a new sensation for me.
Testing in the next month. The point of a quality brand makes it easy and I don’t like to play what everyone else has .
I think stock shafts for these are 45 inches. A lot of manufacturers have longer shafts which means you may swing it faster and get a few extra yards but I think Mizuno has done it right with these drivers and most amateurs could benefit from the 45 inch shaft.
Played 2021 STZ model for a season, total fairway finder but not as long as others. Missed very few fairways
I bought it! They got rid of the grass grabbing speed pocket on the bottom! Since ST200 Mizuno have been the best driver on the market for me….. this one is even better!! My miss is a nasty hook! Early extension and flip. This thing will not duck hook! It finds the fairway on my nastiest of misshits!! Best driver on the market!!
I got the STX 220 earlier this year and really like it. It the STX 230 $100 better?
Re get fitted. There more info on club specs available now. I had difficulty hitting a draw with a Titanium driver, a fitting years later had a new fennel to bring the face back to sq from 3 degrees open.
Better looking, sounding, and cheaper than most rivals. A shame people will overlook this beauty. My ST190 might need to play second fiddle if the 230 goes on sale later this year...
Mark, do you think Mizuno are just not as focused on golf as we think they are? They are a worldwide company across many sports…golf, baseball, volleyball…do you think maybe they are just too much of a “Jack of all trades” and not focused entirely in one area enough?
They would need to spend to hit that driver market for sure.
After this video and some of the comments I was pumped to find a used STZ220 for a good price but the number of shaft options are a bit overwhelming without getting fitted to know which one to buy
One of the better looking heads put out this year. But I'm still rocking my OG Rogue Sub Zero and doubt I'd gain much.
I know they use a 45 in standard length in their drivers, which I like but would imagine those into indoor numbers would find speed and thus ball speed to be effected. That's if you were using their stock shafts they come with.
I game Mizuno ST220G. Just came out on top (for me) during a driver testing and driver fitting. Cobra Radspeed XB came close 2nd
Speaking purely from my own perspective, the reason I can see why they don't have as big a market share is the advertising aspect, how may pros are using them and availability in the shops. I have never seen them being sold in a shop. I would never allow advertising to play any part in what I spend my money on as I simply don't believe half of the claims they come up with. I will absolutely play one for my next driver but I've just bought last years ZX5 for £150.
A couple years ago when I was looking at drivers I remember really considering whatever Mizuno's was at the time because it was still well reviewed by everyone, looked nice and I think more affordable than the big 3 or 4? I had no brand allegiance or preference at the time, was just looking for good upgrades. Ended up with Cobra mostly because it had the same positives and matched my new irons and was able to get marked down more through website signup.
Will say that $600 tag is RRRRRRRRROUGH though.
Mark, isn’t Mizuno a 1/2” to 3/4” shorter than Taylormade, Callaway and Cobra? How much does that matter on speed?
I just got an STZ220 that was supposedly a "demo" for $200. But it sure looked brand new. Played a few rounds with it and really like it.
I haven't tried a Mizuno driver because they've been releasing two models, and the model with more adjustability is released only in a 9º loft. Mizuno seems to be saying "unless you are a more skilled player who can handle a driver with only 9º of loft, too bad."