Rococo Deluxe Edition - Why Own It? Mechanics & Theme Board Game Review
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Rococo Deluxe Edition
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction
01:43 Theme overview (Themer)
03:03 Mechanics overview (Thinker)
08:04 Thematic integration (Themer)
11:18 Game play experience & initial thoughts
16:27 Solo mode (Themer)
18:50 Discussion of player count
21:00 More chit chat (including the expansion & why own it)
Designer: Matthias Cramer, Stefan Malz & Louis Malz
Players: 1-5
Play time: 60-120min
Publisher: Eagle-Gryphon Games + 6 more
For more game info: boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/2...
Thanks for stopping by for our mechanics & theme board game review of Rococo Deluxe Edition. We're Amy & Maggie aka ThinkerThemer. We're an Australian couple with two very different perspectives of what makes a great board game - Amy (Thinker) is all about the mechanics and enjoys tight, competitive games, and Maggie (Themer) is all about the storytelling and the theme of the game, and the 'world' that the designer is trying to create. Subscribe to our channel to hear us talk about these two elements of a game, and how well integrated we feel these are in delivering a cohesive and wonderful game experience.
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They designed the expansion for Altiplano. Reiner Stockhausen designed Altiplano. He also designed Orleans.
Argh! Thank you for the correction Lee. I will pin this comment.
Thanks for the great review! That’s a good point about the heteronormative aspect to the goals, I’m sorry to say that never occurred to me. But that’s exactly why I’m so happy to see you both sharing your voices :)
Thank you for bringing this world to life in a way that brings such joy to our table! We really appreciate you taking the time to comment about the goal that I mentioned in the game, that truly means a lot to us (and I'm sure others watching 😊). Thanks Ian 🥰
I don't think it occurs to a lot us Ian. As a straight white man, it's not like I go around feeling lucky because there are so many examples in popular culture of people similar to me or, as in this particular situation, game mechanics that mimic my lifestyle, I just have no appreciation for it whatsoever because it's just been a given all my life. So much so, that I'm not even aware of the benefits or the comfort this provides. It is only when you see, for example, the joy on a black child's face at finally having a black superhero go mainstream such as Black Panther, or read the type of comment Amy made about feeling sad at lack of inclusion that I realize that inclusion is not automatic for so many people and I consider how lonely this could make somebody feel. While I consider myself pretty well informed and aware of issues such as this, I don't think I would have ever considered it in the board game arena if it had not been for this video. So I agree with you, it is great that Amy and Maggie are sharing their voices and I hope they inspire more people to do so.
@@Edward1140 Hear hear!
The heteronormative aspects are an issue. The game takes place in France hundreds of years ago with a bunch of religious Christians who are trying to marry for nobility and offspring, not sex and love like the modern day. Absurd to complain about a history theme like this. No one plays a game about this time period and expects it to look like the modern day
"...and then when you win..." Your titter of laughter was priceless. Dead give away who is the Themer!
Maggie: These are your employees, people with different skill levels, these ones here are the master tailors
Amy: *aggresive nodding* The gold cards
😂
Talking about thematic integration, one bit that I really like is the musicians in each hall giving you the tie breaker. Every time a person that wears one of your dresses comes into the hall, the music accompanies them for a great entrance, you can also imagine the change of tune for one of your competitors. It's such a fun theme.
Hahahaha aggressive nodding... I feel so... seen. 😀
Of course I had never thought about the musicians in that much detail but I love your description of it Sergio! I think you and Maggie would get along very well 🥰
Always appreciate your player count discussions!
Thank you for the feedback Emilia! Will keep doing that as much as we can! 😊
Thanks so much for reviewing another game I really regret not backing! I'm still so tempted to try and get it but your 2 player and solo perspective helped to temper that some. Love your reviews and perspectives, especially the hetronormative goals in this one. Thanks, as always!
No need to regret not backing it if you can buy it right now.
Thanks Omar! Yes this one never went to Kickstarter, I purchased it direct from EGG as a pre-order. Hopefully you can try someone else's copy maybe once cons are back since it is probably a bit better at higher player counts. Appreciate your appreciation of our diversity feedback :) Thank you for always making us feel supported.
I really enjoy the way you tackle board games and your reviews videos are from the best in my opinion. You have a way to explain the game through the theme that makes it more approachable and understandable and when you treat the mechanics of the game its a perfect way to understand if someone will enjoy the game or not, according to what a person searches in a game experience. Really enjoy your content, keep it up girls and always have fun!
Thank you so much Nataly that is really lovely feedback and we always appreciate you taking the time to write this! If there is anything you think we should add or change we'd be very open to that feedback too, we are still new to this and trying to always improve 😊 thanks again for watching!
I have been putting off watching your review because I knew I would want it! Maggie's comments on solo give me pause, though, because that is part of my justification for such a steep price tag. I think the production quality is there, but that's all for naught if it isn't getting played enough. And I have no idea how I would store such a massive box. Your comments on the expansion and player count were really helpful. I definitely want the game, but may seek out the older edition without the expansion. Since we don't like tension, the 2P sounds like it would be perfect for us. Wonderful review, as always!
Your point on variability is important to me and I look for reviewers to cover this in any game I look up. I would have thought the expansion modules significantly improve the variability, no? I've wanted to play this game for years, but I only wanted the new version. When it came up for sale I jumped on it, but before I pick it up I'm checking reviews for things I might have missed.
Thank you so much for your review! I was awash in your excitement, I keep going back and forth on picking this game up, I have a large collection and I was worried this overlapped too much with Pret-a-Porter, but seeing this as a step up from 'gateway' means that it might just earn a place on my shelf. Also, I really appreciate your assessment of diversity in the game's artwork and mechanics, I too would like to see less heteronormativity in games, especially a game themed around *FASHION* no less! Keep up the great work, you're an inspiration!
Aw, this really made us smile thank you Aaron for this truly lovely feedback. I'm glad the diversity/heteronormativity conversation resonated, I always say these things a little timidly but it does impact on my play experience (and others' by the lovely comments being left) so I really do appreciate the support. We don't own Pret-a-Porter but this one definitely seems much more gateway, and linear in what you need to get done as there are not too many options. Thanks again for your kind words and for watching & commenting 😊
Such a pretty game. Not one I would buy for myself and I would be a bit bugged with how the replayability could be better for such an expensive game but would be a joy to play one day with friends. Thanks again for the review Amy and Maggie. Love how there's a theme to what Maggie wears for reviews.
Best to find a friend who has this one! A much cheaper option 😎 Thanks for watching as always and I've passed on your feedback about Maggie's thematic clothing choices which made her very happy this fine Tuesday morning 😊
I knew you two would enjoy this! Can confirm that 3 players is absolutely wonderful - also such a great point that the most variety is going to come from adding more players rather than expansions. We found the expansions ranging from meh (fancy dresses) to eugh (jewelry box). We absolutely loved this game, except the price was so steep. Maz keeps saying he wants to sell it, but then we play it and it earns another few months of shelf life. Great review legends! ~N
Great to hear about the 3 player count! And so happy you enjoy this one too. It is super expensive but I'm already so happy with the joy it brings the newbie gamers in our life 🥰 Hope you are both having a lovely week!
I saw the SU&SD review of this deluxe edition and KNEW you guys would love it haha. I love the production quality, and the theme is fun! Hand and resource management, but make it FASHION! I'd be bringing out my Ab Fab voices for sure, darling. I definitely agree that I think the best player count will be 3 or 4, you need the competition for the halls to be tight to make it more exciting.
Yessss!!! I had preordered it as soon as it was announced but it took SO LONG TO GET TO AUSTRALIA!!! We either get things first or last 😅 hahaha yes ab fab voices ❤... such a nice change for a theme. Thank you for watching as always! Have a great week 😊
Don't know this game (or Ian O'Toole!) But it looks amazing. And as always, love the thinker/theme bit. Amy explaining mechanically, and then Maggie correcting with correct themed terminology always makes me laugh. You've made me realise that I go back and forth between the two, and do so when I teach rules too!
Hahahaha that is forever my life 🤣 but I do enjoy the way Maggie gets so excited about the theme or story... it makes me more excited too 😊 thank you for taking the time to write this lovely feedback it means a lot to us 💕
Loved this, your excitement for the game was palpable! It does look like a really fun setting and certainly a nice change of pace from the usual euro-themes. Sadly, once again, no player-powers? But it's so pretty, I might have to make an exception. And I don't own any game with Ian O'Toole art in it yet! :o
You ladies do it again! This is an instant add to my collection and one that Delilah said she is interested in trying. Simply for how well you say the theme is integrated. So looks like I have another to try with her for “The Challenge”!
Whoohoo!!!! That is a win for sure and cant wait to see this one on The Challenge. I think you will find it nice and easy to teach despite its size! Hope youre having a great week friend and thanks for watching as always ❤
Such an exquisite looking game. From the first moment I saw this reprint (IAN O'TOOLE) I was sold. Theme wise, I was not sure, but after seeing some play throughs it seems so inviting to play. So when Mercado de Lisboa launched their campaign i grasped the chance to add this one to the collection. So, I am still waiting for this one, but maybe april could be the month to drool over this. Happy to see you (Amy) enjoying the theme of it.
Guess that makes this review double the worth.
Yes that Mercado de Lisboa campaign was such an expensive one for a small box ;) so many appealing add-ons...!!! I was definitely brought over to the dark side (theme) with this game :D I hope you enjoy it too and look forward to hearing what you think once you've received it and had a chance to play! Thanks for watching and commenting as always Sebastian.
What a fabulous review! While I have not played it, I would like to. It drips with a theme so glamorous and light-hearted, if done well (with great components and art work) it should be irresistible. Thanks sisters.
Thank you so much Wayne for the kind feedback! It is definitely a fun one to try sometime...! Hopefully some one you know will be drawn in by the deluxe version and you'll get to experience the lovely art and components. Thanks for taking the time to comment! 😊
So happy that I got to see your video. I found it thanks to Foster the Meeple introducing me to your channel! I am pretty new to the hobby, though I always loved playing games. I had wonderer how good Rococo was going to be. I haven't ventured into any heavy Euro style games, but have wanted to get into something a little bit heavier than the games I've been currently playing. This sounds like it might be a good place to start. It looks like a gorgeous game and I am very intrigued by the theme.
Hi Jeffrey! Thanks for watching and for taking the time to write to us. So glad to hear you are venturing deeper into the world of board gaming... it is a slippery slope! 😅 what are your favourite games so far? I hope our channel can help you discover some new ones! 😊
@@ThinkerThemer Thanks so much for taking the time to write back!Mostly due to the pandemic, I've been playing either 2 player games or ones that play well at 2. Currently, Jixia Academy (reprint of Hanamikoji) and Archeology: New Expeditions are getting a lot of play. But, it was Jaipur and Splendor that had opened my eyes to the world beyond Parker Bros. and Hasbro. I think I actually hallucinated chorus of angels!🤯
Hahahha! Those are two great games for sure... no wonder you have found yourself here 😃 Kahuna and 7 Wonders Duel are two cheaper smaller 2 player games to check out! Oh and Lost Cities is a classic if you don't mind a very abstract game (lacking on the theme!)
Dominion and Carcassonne were two gateways for us. Is it weird that I'm excited for you?! 😅
Excellent review!
Thank you Miss R! ❤
Hey! I always play with the box lid visible, when possible. It never occurred to me I was a rarity! Great review as always; I put a lot of stock in your opinions!
Hahaha maybe in our group of friends... I've never thought to do it before but it does add to the experience and makes for a great photo op too ;) Thanks for your kind words Drew and for watching and taking the time to comment 😊
I think the solo can be hit or miss depending on the hand she draws. As you shuffle her large deck between every round, you may end up where she doesn't make many dresses in your game, or doesn't place in every room...ect. You might be able to cull her deck of cards to make the odds of her making a dress more likely removing some that simple block you cards ( like hiring or getting resources. ) But I have had games that the cards that came up in her hand wrecked me and others where she didn't really get in my way. It's okay and fun to solo, but not the best for strategic purposes as her actions are random and sometimes makes no sense for area control. Maybe play with her placing in evrey room first before using the card to dictate placement. ( highest to lowest )
Those are interesting ideas thank you wsiegel! I have passed those on for Maggie to try out. At least she wasn't imagining it when she thought it felt a bit easy / random. Maybe if she plays more she will experience those harder combination of draws! Thank you for watching and taking the time to make these suggestions 😊
Ha, you won't get me this time, ThinkerThemer ... but only because I already splurged on this one last month. :-) I'm even more excited to get it to the table now, and am happy to hear that it works for less-seasoned gamers. I'm thinking I may be able to teach it to my nieces. Thanks for another great review.
Lol!! Well to be honest it is a bit scarier influencing a more expensive purchase so I'm glad you were already all over this one :) That sounds really nice to be able to play this with your nieces Jim. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Would love to know what you think once you've had a chance to get it to the table! 😊
Another excellent video! I have the original and the deluxe because I couldn’t pass up the chance to get the Ian O’Toole artwork and fancy components. Still debating whether to part with the original. Silly story - first time I played this game, I played it like a deck builder instead of selecting my cards... I think it was the evening of day 2 or 3 of a convention, so my brain must have already been fried. I haven’t tried it solo yet, but it sounds like it might not be enough of a challenge relative to the game set-up time. Thank you for bringing light to the heteronormative aspect of the game, and I love your authenticity. I suppose we shall just have two copies of this game on retirement island (3 if I keep the original), as I don’t see this one leaving my collection. 🏝❤️
Retirement Island! It gets me excited every single time we talk about it 😎 I actually messed up my first few rounds of this game too... I kept swapping my pile of cards thinking I needed to always play with a different hand. I think I was overthinking it 🤣 glad to hear you love this one too... I've never sleeved a game but this is the first time I've thought about doing it... so stunning! Thanks for watching and your support as always (I really appreciate your support of our feedback on the pairing goal 😊). X
I’m a big fan of this game and was fortunately able to pick up a second hand copy of the original edition from Egertspiele. I genuinely don’t understand Eagle-Gryphon pricing so many out of such a great game and was pretty annoyed when the KS ran that they didn’t offer a more affordable option. The production of the new edition is amazing, but for the game experience it offers (and the replay issues you rightly mention) I just don’t think it justifies the huge price tag.
Great review as always!
Another really good review from you both. My ancestor Ann Farrow from Wells, Norfolk England was a dressmaker in 1882 she would of enjoyed this game!
Thank you Paul! That is amazing!!! It's in your blood so you should be a natural at this game! Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment 😊
Another awesome review! I love Rococo Deluxe but have only managed to play it solo several times in my attempt to learn it. With the pandemic, I haven’t had the chance to get this to the table with others. The large table presence was too intimidating for my partner, who will play some of the more lightweight games with me. I cannot wait to play this with others. But I do feel the same way about the Jewelry expansion. Very much feels like an add on vs integrated. Thank you so much for mentioning the diversity and heteronormative comments. It is so important to put those out there for the designers to hear. As for solo difficulty, I might try just adding +1 or 2 prestige points when “Madam” gets them, for a scaling difficulty. Not sure it is a balanced approached but might work. Again, I just love watching you two and am always excited when I see a new video notification! I think you both just keep getting better and better and Maggie your video editing and transitions are great! Keep up the authentic unscripted dialogue! Love that between you both. I always have a great smile and laugh watching your videos!
Thank you so much Darlene! Definitely a game that is more fun with player interaction so hoping when things get back to normal you can bring this out and teach it to others! Appreciate your comment about our diversity/heteronormative feedback - it's nice to feel supported in that. In fact, your whole comment made us feel very supported with your kind words about our improvement. We try hard to improve but it is hard to know what works and what doesn't sometimes. So very much appreciate the specific feedback and happy to hear you enjoy our approach to reviews. I'm going to mention this AI suggestion to Maggie for solo difficulty! Thanks for taking the time to write this and for watching as always. ❤
I love how you guys review games from such distinct ideology's
I love love love this game. The first time I played the original game at a convention I immediately went out to the flea market at the convention and bought a copy. When this Deluxe edition was released I was first in line to get it.
Yaaaay! So glad to hear you're a (big) fan of this one Eric! It's such a fun theme and I'm so glad it is now in our collection. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment (& share on Twitter!) 😊
Fantastic review as always. What would you say for those who already own the previous version? I have to say I looked at the changes and didn't think the expense was justified for what is a relatively light Euro, even though I love Ian O'Toole's art. I went ahead and got a previous copy on the second hand market for around 1/4 of the price! Your comments about the solo mode and the expansion make me think they don't add enough to make it worth upgrading?
Hm interestingly if we owned the original it might not get as much table time for us... the deluxification is part of the 'theatre' for us and really draws us in. So I think if you value those things the art and components are worth it but no I wouldn't say the expansion and solo mode justify the big box (in our humble opinions 😊). Thanks Jason for watching and for the lovely feedback.
Thank you for the review. I'm gonna ask my game group to play this one.
Thanks for watching Dwayne! Best way to play an expensive game - find a friend that owns it or wants to buy it 😂
Another wonderful review of a game I'd love to play, but I can't see this one coming to my collection. The theme is great, the game play sounds awesome, but space considerations in our 2BR apartment mean it will have to live elsewhere. Table presence may be phenomenal, but it can't justify that shelf or closet presence. I'd have to lose 2-3 games just to make room for it. Sigh. Now as for the "better half" discussion, Cathy is my better 2/3 and if I'm honest that's probably rounding down a fair amount. :-)
Hahah now every time I say better half I think of you and your assessment on your wife being 2/3 - I thought it was super sweet. There is no doubt that this one is a space hog!!! And if you're not catering to groups of new players frequently (at higher player counts) it might not get enough play to warrant it... sooooo maybe just find a friend with it or play it at a con when we are all back to normal! Thanks for watching and your support as always Steve ❤
Thanks for the review! You guys are awesome. Also, Rococo is another of my top games. I own the older version, Rokoko. I was tempted by the reprint, but my will power held out, one in a row for me. Have you tried Troyes?
One in a row lol....! Thanks so much for the lovely feedback and glad to hear you are a fan of the original game! We own Troyes and I enjoy it... I haven't quite convinced Maggie on it yet but I think that's because she struggled a bit to learn it because it is so light on theme. I need to get it back to the table, thanks for the reminder! What do you think of it?
@@ThinkerThemer I enjoy just having to overcome the events that take place at the beginning of the each round- kind of working together with other players. You could also disrupt other players if you scheme accordingly, muhahaha. I like that you have a way to mitigate your die rolls, which is a huge part of gameplay. Secret goals! You have to pay attention to what other players are doing, and not let them go heavy into one thing or they'll outscore you at the end of the game. There's a bit of player interaction without it being too harsh, but it's there and you will use it to your advantage or their disadvantage. There's a lot of options and gameplay is fairly elegant. I have to agree that the theme is on the thin side, however I adore the art style in all it's beigeness - or is it taupe. Skip the expansion at lower player counts, however I find it enjoyable at a full player count. For game that's about 12 years old at this point, it has aged fairly well and in its' day I would consider it innovative.
Another game a little bit more current, and somewhat similar, would be Black Angel. Black Angel is its disconnected garish overcooked spiritual successor, it's more of a space theme, which doesn't resonate with me unfortunately. I still prefer Troyes, but I still enjoy Black Angel - even though it doesn't seem like it. I want to love it but I just don't.
At the end of the day Troyes just works for us. It has just enough player interaction without it being too mean. For games that are to mean I end up getting the what for, which generally isn't very pleasant.
I apologize for the wall of text. But it's just too easy to hit the voice to text button and ramble on for a good while.
If you want to increase the difficulty for Madame Du Barry try using 5 cards for her per round instead of 4.
Maggie "fighting" Amy over the 100% better half comment is me pretending to fight someone when they offer to pay for lunch. "No, no oh OK sure." hahaha.
LOL Oh man this got me so good... and I just read it out to Maggie who found it equally hilarious and absolutely accurate 🙃 we all know what we're dealing with here
@@ThinkerThemer haha and in my head I was also thinking; well, Amy knows statistics so she must be right. 🤔
Also, if you are not aware. Ian O'Toole also lives in Australia. Perth I believe
He does indeed! We'll happily claim him as Australian 😎💕
Love the diversity and heteronormative comments. It means a lot to hear someone speaking up for us and the more you talk about it the more people should take note in the future ☺️. I had the same worry when I first saw the Obsession theme, I thought no way am I chasing after that Charles guy the whole game 🤣. Thankfully it’s not the case!
This is a game I already wanted. Now I'm eve more eager to buy it just to see what is wrong with this Charles guy lol
@@Edward1140 Haha nothing he’s a lovely chap, I just didn’t want to be made to date him 😅
@@Lauren-gy4or Well in that case, maybe I'll chase him when I get the game. But if he turns out to be less than lovely I am holding you responsible..
@@Edward1140 if you appreciate a top hat then I think he’s your man 😉
I laughed so much at this trail of comments! I do love being mrs and mrs fairchild in Obsession! 😊 Thank you so much for the lovely feedback Lauren. It means so much to read that and I hope you also get a chance to see some of the supportive comments that others have made too (including Ian O'Toole!) I hope that this changes in the future too. Thanks for watching and for your support as always ❤
So I just loved the idea of this game and searched hither and yon to find a copy...an original copy! I trust you two and wonder... should I get this de luxe edition if I already own the original? Thoughts?
This looks so good. I think both my wife and I would enjoy it but boy is it tough to justify the price tag. Maybe one day....
It's definitely not cheap :( maybe you will score it one day in a trade or second hand sale!
Does Maggie ever play game inspired music to help with theme submersion? We do that all the time and we really love it.
Thank you for the video!
Generally no! Which is strange because she is very musical. Maybe it's for the same reason she can't listen to music while working - it is too distracting for her. Actually sometimes if we've been playing and had music on the tv she just zones out completely [BABE IT'S YOUR TURN!] We did do it with Betrayal Legacy... we played scary music and it actually made me terrified so I can definitely see the worth of adding music! What is your favourite game / music combo?
@@ThinkerThemer Hehe, she might just be so deep into the theme that she is planning 4 moves ahead based only on what would the character do and you broke that streak she was on...inside her head lol. Anyways, my wife and I love playing music while playing board games. Usually, I create thematic playlists on Spotify and listen play those. Other times, we just like playing some chill background music. It's kind of funny because the other day we randomly heard a song on the car radio that we had previously heard while playing a game and we both just laughed and said that we wanted to play that game again. It's almost like we have been conditioned to relate certain songs to playing. Now, to answer your question, I think my favorite music playlist/game combo atm is Tidal Blades and the playlist I made for it. It fits so well! It has its cute relaxing moments, its epic encounters, scary songs for when we go to fight monsters, etc. Actually, excuse me while I go set it up to ;)
Nice new video and for a great game.
Maggie is the better half for sure, but unfortunately the wrong half (thinking > theme/setting).
Ok fine, for Rococo is probably is theme > mechanisms
Hahahaha I told Maggie that she was better but wrong, she seemed pretty OK with that. 😊 Thanks for watching as always Nemo!
@@ThinkerThemer oh, and since Maggie likes.multinplayer solitaire games. Does she like Orleans or Newton? Both look drab bit are some of the best multiplayer solitaire
Any feudum reviews? I like to know what your thoughts on it. Thanks ladies! Stay safe and stay beautiful 🙂
No but we've wanted this one for ages!!! Bumping it up the list again, thanks for the reminder... and thanks for watching! ☺
Excellent review. You both has such a great conversational style that has me so eager to play the game by the end of the review. Oh, and I don’t think you have to be a gay man to be pulled in by this theme lol. As for the Herero normative issue, I personally feel this game gets a pass because of its historical theme but your comment did get me thinking about how many board games actually buck this trend and I could not think of any. Now, I’m new to the hobby so there might be a whole swath of games that I am unfamiliar with but somehow I doubt it. It really would be nice to see companies and designers improve on this situation. On the bright side, I think the quality of your videos and the impression you seem to have made on the industry in such a short period of time may lead to raised awareness and gradual change.
Hahaha! No sorry I didn't mean it to sound like you needed to be a gay man to enjoy the theme hahaha.. just that, I think our assessment of how exciting the theme is was probably somewhat biased by the fact we only played with different groups of gay men LOL. Re: the objective issue for male/female pairings... I do think that even historical games should try to be more diverse in their representations (even if being gay in those times was not as "out" as now). But you are right that it's fairly common oversight in gaming. When we were younger we just got used to it (visibility was much lower than today) so we tend to overlook it mostly but there is still a part of me that makes me sad. It's a big part of why we started the channel, for visibility. So it means a lot to hear your lovely feedback and to have your support. Thanks for watching and taking the time to write this. 😊
@@ThinkerThemer oh I certainly didn’t take you seriously about the gay man comment. I thought it was funny. As for diversity in historical games, I think I should clarify. The reason I thought this game should get a pass is that it was not just an historical game but a game about parading the characters in public at the kings ball. Not the ideal time and place for demonstrating progressive views of any kind lol. Not that it would have mattered if the designers had adopted your idea. It’s about time some of them did. That being said, at least with board games as opposed to some other forms of entertainment, the character bios are vague enough that we can all develop backstories for them on our own. Although that is probably way too thematic for you haha. Thanks again for the great videos.
Spirit island!!!
Nope, never played Rococo. I think it first came out the cover and theme didn't really did it for me and it looked too heavy euro for me too. I doubt if I'll get the new giant box either cos I don't think I have the space for that plus way too many other games I wanna play first! Fingers crossed, Amazon should be delivering my copy of Hallertau by the end of March. By the way, I saw this link bout Grand Austria Hotel and thought Maggie might find interesting. :)
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2605080/cafe-and-emperor-features-make-great-sense-if-you
Fair enough! We all need to find a line to draw for our tastes and for the sake of our shelves!! We are hoping to receive Hallertau soon as well. Oo thank you for sharing that post! I sent it to Maggie and she is excited to read. Hope you had a lovely weekend, thanks for watching! 😊
This looks really fun, I am glad it is expensive because I do not really need it unfortunately
Hahaha sometimes you just need one thing to stop you from buying! ANYTHING! I understand that relief :)
I now count myself as a gay man that went Oooooo when you introduced this game to me
😆😆 well... we can never have too many 💕🌈
have you tried adding the AI to a 2 player game? if that would work
We haven't! Maggie said that AI is not her favourite solo mechanic but I would be SOOOO frustrated using AI. I really dislike 2 player games that have a third AI character. I think I'd rather play a less than ideal 2 player lol. I'm so impatient :) a good suggestion for others though, it would make the area control much more tense (and i believe the removal of dresses??) Thanks for watching and commenting Sean.
@@ThinkerThemer no worries, keep up the excellent content love you both
Looks like a very pretty and fun game, but maybe too feminine a product for my husband. Maybe a solo game. I wonder if there's a digital version yet.
Not every theme is for everyone! This is a fun game and maybe you will get an opportunity to try it sometime (is there a friend you can entice to buy the deluxe version so you don't have to?? hehe) Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Well, that is true, but maybe think about it in terms of running a business. You are employing and firing employees in order to compete with other businesses to get the best reputation amongst the wealthy elite in Paris by loaning them your fantastic products to show off at the big party. That's really what it's about.
Am I the only one who liked the old artwork better?
Ok you did it again. I've added it to my wish list. But we all need alot of gay Men in our lives!! They are pure joy to hangout with.
Haha sorrrrrry!!! thank you for watching as always and wishing you both a lovely week ahead 😊
@@ThinkerThemer You know you shouldn't apologize for sharing joy, enthusiasm and love. I wasn't feeling well this morning when I watched it the first time and I missed how much you really enjoyed this game. Thank you for sharing that.
It does bring me joy to play it, I was excited to talk about it. Thanks for saying that and I hope youre feeling better?? ❤
@@ThinkerThemer yes it was my allergies. Took some meds and had a nap. All better. Very kind of you for asking.
Ooooo I know all about that. Sorry you had a bad morning but glad u have slept it off 😊 talk soon!
Game I like to have but too expensive.
Totally appreciate that! You could buy a few other games for the same price!
I look forward to the sequel with Louis XVI and the French Revolution when they make the wealthy pay for their hubris and abuse of power.
Maybe they will be a little less focused on gowns and fireworks...? 😬
Don’t we already have this game, called “Guillotine” 😁?
This theme turn me off, making dress like Dior doesn’t appeal to me.
That's too bad. You missing out on a really great game.
Fair enough! Not every theme is for everyone... we do love it though! :)