Additional updates from CES since this video was recorded: * ASRock Unveil Their New Gaming Monitor Line-up Including OLED Models: tftcentral.co.uk/news/asrock-unveil-their-new-gaming-monitor-line-up-including-oled-models * MSI MPG272QPX is the First 27″ Size 500Hz Monitor, and it Also Has a Mini LED Backlight: tftcentral.co.uk/news/msi-mpg272qpx-is-the-first-27-size-500hz-monitor-and-it-also-has-a-mini-led-backlight
The Asus WOLED with RGWB pixel array 27", 1440p, 480 HZ is the one I am most looking forward to. If the text clarity issue is solved, I will be an early adopter.
If Samsung have finally fixed the gamma curve on their QD-OLEDs I might pick up a 32", but I doubt it. Steam deck OLED have terrible dark shade cut-off, the Alienware QD-OLED had terrible gamma curve too with darks being turned up to hide the rough cut-off. But I know TFTCentral will have the answers when it's finally time to decide. :)
i find the Dell IPS Black montiors very exciting and a great alternative to OLED if you're afraid of burn it, but not if they're more expensive than OLEDS !
as a mildly apathetic gamer, the asus pg27aqdp 1440p @480 hz first and foremost at 8:33 just make sure it's glossy or at least semi-glossy. thanks a lot for keeping track of every development. i didn't know that pretty much perfect motion clarity is not far away.
Really hope the ultrawides dont come with an 800r curve for LG. It's great for something like the 45" but for 34" which is what im looking to get it's way too aggressive. A more shallow curve would be perfect to me
If Gigabyte is supporting UHBR20 that could be really good news for consumers if it means AMD is actually going to attempt to support the full capabilities of DP2.1. Supposedly the maximum length of a copper cable transmitting UHBR20 is three feet and basically no-one would be able to use it even if a card with this spec did appear, but we could still try things like optical cables.
@@nttinvis The signal itself degrades, 80Gbps is too much data for a regular copper display cable to carry. When VESA announced the spec for DP2.1 it was stated that UHBR20 was only intended to be used internally for systems with an integrated display. In theory someone needs to make a "Gaming All In One" system with the CPU/GPU inside the monitor housing to properly make use of UHBR20.
@@nttinvis In theory it wouldn't be difficult for monitor manufacturers to include a Micro ATX mount on the back of the monitor and let people mount their own compact gaming PC with the GPU less than a foot away from the display connection, but that would need A LOT of collaboration from PC parts manufacturers to actually convince the general PC building public this is a good idea.
I know right, all that talking about OLED's and not a word about this crucial feature. No G-Sync hardware module = is not "End Game" , id rather pay 300 extra and have it for some games where screen tearing is big issue. Vsync is garbage 🤢
I'm still stuck with my TN panel, because I can't decide which monitor to buy, because: - IPS is off the table, because I can't stand the haziness and IPS glow. - Most VA is off the table, because I can't stand the curve - OLEDs are off the table - for now - because I play lots of games like X-COM2 with static UI elements. Maybe I just have to accept that I have to buy 2 monitors. (1 for office like work and static games and 1 for everything else)
If someone does the work, I would love to know all of the monitors releasing in both Q1/H1 and H2 that have DP2.1 I really hate gigabyte as a company, but that is shaping up to be a great monitor from the looks of it!
Who will win the match between WOLED and QD OLED? Advantage seems to be on the hype of the glossy QD OLED but no significative difference has been observed by optimum. What do you think guys ?
4:50 SO FAR the best overall 4K option is MSI: 1. glossy 2. no stupid curvature 3. calm design with nice stand 4. oled panel care and control software. 5. reasonable price (on sale could be less that $1k) The ONLY downside its NOT Dell: if you are in USA its much more convenient to own Dell than anything else. All other brands you have to go through the HOOPS to RMA. The most disapointing is 5K 40" Dell: 1. terible IPS panel. (Hello, McFly, its 2024!) 2. prohibitive price.
Really hope that LG 27GS95QE has a glossy screen. Otherwise...what's the point of it when every other spec looks identical to the existing one. If it does, that's an insta-buy for me. Everything I need.
That’s a possibility as we know there’s a panel in plan like that in that size and spec. Might just be the same matte panel though with increased brightness of 1300 nits. Time will tell
@@heatnup completely wrong , you have never seen it in real life buddy, quality looks great , not a noticeable difference, just a bunch of nerds arguing over specs
@@user-ll4wu3kb2m its 95.62 ppi. You haven’t seen 3440x1440 on a screen of that size. 34” 3440x1440 is good ppi but 38” and up should be 3840x1600 at least
Really appreciate you taking the time to do this! I'm curious, in your opinion, what do you think will be the best 27 inch OLED, flat panel, glossy, 240hz or higher monitor? Does this even exist?
The closest would be the couple of 27” 360Hz QDOLED monitors covered from Dell and MSI, both are flat and both feature the normal semi glossy screen coating. Avoid the Samsung G6 as that has added matte coating (if you want glossy that is)
Apparently there's tons and tons of people out there who exclusively use their PCs for playing games and don't have any concern about permanent burn in from mixed use at all, otherwise there would be way more miniLED monitors or other non-disposable monitor tech being shown. Very disappointing.
Picture by Picture needs to become a feature because it’s never spoken about. I feel like especially on the 34+ monitors it should be required to have that almost. With actual combinations which may help and not just 2 basic configurations
I'd love to see some hands on with the dual mode (4k/1080p) monitors coming out... As someone who plays old games which look better in 1080p, they are tempting even though i so far liked 1440p
@@Synthesia-ef7hj i dont know enough about monitors to tell u the first technical thing about them bro lol. One of the hardware engineers will find a way for fully adjustable resolution on monitors. Its coming
@@fercon9892 okay let me explain to you why its impossible, say you have 4 dots right? these four dots could represent one big dot that's 4 times the size, but how are you going to use those 4 dots to represent a dot that's twice the size of a single dot?
I am so disappointed that mini led is getting abandoned. The only things that needed to be improved is haloing and response times (for me). You can’t beat the brightness of a good FALD panel.
odyssey neo g9 57'' is a nice contender I have one and plan on keeping it but I will be grabbing one of these 4k 32'' 240hz oleds I think I will be patient cause I wanna see what 480hz on oled is like also so will wait out for the dual mode monitor
It’s far from being abandoned and I’d expect that to be the main development area for LCD monitors this year. It’s just CES showcases and announcements were heavily around OLED this year, but you can see plenty of mini led LCDs being released, some at very competitive prices.
@@tftcentral in all honesty, how much of an upgrade would you say this 32” ROG swift QD OLED will be compared to the PG27Uq. I play mostly immersive style games. I’m more into the looks and HDR than practically all other aspects. I also have a 4090 to push the frames.
@LexLutha a lot of the performance will be quite similar I would expect but the jump up to a larger screen size and a higher pixel density with 4k would give you a nice boost in image quality I think.
Our flats/homes are getting smaller, yet monitors get bigger...For home use 22-24" is the MAX, not any 32" or 48". I don't wonder anymore why people loose their sight if they sit in front of such 32".
This one is fairly simple thankfully All QD-OLED models, with the exception of the new Samsung models, are normal semi glossy finish. Samsung have added a matte AG coating to their panels for some reason. All WOLED panels are matte AG coated as standard right now. Even the 480Hz that was rumoured to be glossy but isn’t
Ouff what a bummer.@@tftcentral Well, then QD-OLED it is. Will you compare the Dolby Vision with HDR10 on them too or is this too niche? Also had another question, but wrote it as a comment before this. Thanks for your efforts, really nice to see any new uploads from TFTCentral.
Thanks for the support. We will of course try and test DV where possible although it’s far more complicated from a pattern generator and measurement point of view
are any dp 2.1 (which according to the video isn't even confirmed) wo/qd oled monitors coming out this year, except the one from hp? not a big fan of hp, but might consider getting one. i'm wondering if they are using the newest samsung panel?
The Gigabyte 32” is the only one specifically confirmed and covered in the video. The HP is a lose rumour at the moment as far as we are concerned. Too vague and unconfirmed
Do you think OLED monitors need BFI? Look at those announcements (at least as far as I understand) this feature seems kinda limited (or even non-existent) comparing to its LCD counterpart
We went from having no options ten years ago in the form of niche prototypes, to a few options a year ago, and now a dozen+ options. It’s nice to finally have choice.
Love the videos , very informative, im looking for a bit of advice really , i need a 4k monitor, thats going to be good for 8 hours work a day ( word & excel ) couple of hours gaming a week , then something that has a good colour accuracy for video editing in 4k , currently have the qled g9 , looking at the dell 40" 5k ips black 120hz monitor , could you recommend anything please ?
I think you’d be best looking at LCD monitors instead of OLED for those uses. Something like the Dell U4025QW would be a great choice I think for productivity, massive screen size and resolution to work with. I think that would be a very good choice tbh as long as you’ve got the space for it
Does anything use the same panel as the mini led samsung odyssey neo g7 4k 166hz without the curve , looks like the perfect monitor but the aggressive curve on a 32" screen is a little off putting
Seems a lot of media missed the MSI 27 inch 1440p 500 HZ (!) mini led. Model name: MPG 272QPX Mini led. It says it got Rapid IPS and 0.5 ms GTG. You got any more info?
So... when are these monitors coming out exactly? Asus has yet to announce a release date for the QD-OLED 4K 240hz monitor. We only know it's apparently Q1. But knowing Asus, they might delay it.
Nothing about the LG 27GR95UM? I've been waiting for a solid 27" 4K/160hz MiniLED option. The other monitors in this segment all come with their nuisances that tend to not be a problem on LG displays. 1500 local dimming zones, while nowhere near OLED, should still be far better than the other monitors in this range with 500 zones.
The Dell U4025QW is so close to qualifying as an ideal side monitor but I need it to actually be 5120x2880 to be able to play a full 1440p video while in portrait orientation. (Right now I use a 4K monitor in portrait to be able to watch video while reading the comments, usually videos are left at 1080p, but with a 5K monitor I could upgrade videos to the next higher common resolution.)
@@xpodx The new Dell monitor is 120hz, but when it's competing with other LCD 4K120hz monitors that cost THREE TIMES less, by the time the U4025QW is sold for anything under $1K it's going to be totally obsolete.
@budthecyborg4575 right. Yea little bummed out of all the monitors. All 4k or less, and the ones that are higher are to wide and have low ppi compared to 8k 32"
@@xpodx What I really want right now is a quad-Ultrawide at 6880x2880, now that would be a sweet monitor (and it's not unrealistic, 20 megapixels is only 3.5MP more than the Dual 4K panel Samsung Neo G9).
Really I would buy the Neo G9 but 32:9 is an absolutely horrible aspect ratio. Just give me that pixel count in anything that looks more like a normal monitor.
Man, I just wanted a good 34" (3440x1440) IPS with high refresh rate. :( And no, I don't want OLED because I'm going to use the monitor during the day for work with a lot of static content and playing at night. Anyways, such a great video and monitors.
so what would be the difference between the closer releasing ASUS pg32ucdm and the pg32ucdp ? apart from the duel refresh rate on the latter and dolby vision on the first monitor that is.
Do you know if the AW3225QF monitor uses Samsung's 2nd generation or 3rd generation QD-OLED panel? I cannot find a clear answer to that and it's not mentioned on any of the AW3225QF documentation. Dell support told me today that it uses the 2nd generation QD-OLED panel which contradicts what some people are saying so maybe Dell support just doesn't know? Also, do you know if the firmware is upgradeable similarly to how it's upgradeable on the AW3423DWF model monitor?
I am a bit disappointed by TFTCentral in the lack of non-OLED coverage lately. While OLED is great for gaming, tv, and movies. It still suffers for all-day productivity. I just don't see how task bars aren't going to burn in even if you pixel shift a bit. It isn't like the shift is so huge to move static elements to a complete new area. Text clarity is still an issue. While I'm not saying OLED isn't a pick for many, the lack of content here on the TN 57in screen (which is pretty unique) and the Dell U4025QW could be a decent high-performance productive and casual gaming monitor.
Well we can’t help that 90% of the interesting monitor news coming out of CES was for Oled screens 😀 we do have some LCD panel roadmap updates coming soon which will hopefully give a taster of what we can look forward to in that space soon, but most manufacturers are currently focused on OLED to be honest
I love your webpage, i have been following you for more then 10 years i think 😊 do you think we will see a cable that will support 8k 360hz uncompressed sometime? 😅
Thanks for the support! Eventually I guess we’d see a cable like that, but the max currently being produced and developed with be those for DP 2.1 at 80Gbps Bandwidth
All of these monitors seem to be FreeSync / G-Sync Compatible. Do you think native G-Sync is still relevant? I would pay a little extra for that feature.
@mz1929 all those except the Samsung G80SD will have the same standard semi glossy coating from QDOLED panels. Hard to say which the best will be until they’re reviewed though
Interesting if one of those 32 inch 4k qd-oled will have 1440p/1080p scaling options as well? The gigabyte version feature is probably more to do with color saturation rather then resolution. I will personally wait for your/rtings/monitors unboxed review of the 1440p 360hz qd-oled.
Why no love for HDMI 2.1 from the manufacturers? My laptop has HDMI 2.1 at the back but monitors don't support it so I have to have a cable sticking out to the side to do DP over USB-C :/
Oh a lot of these will have HDMI 2.1. I didn’t list it as it’s largely a standard feature now. Certainly the 32” 4K models should all feature it. Check specifics in the linked news articles where further specs are covered 😀
My LG 27 w-oled from 2023s return deadline is in 3 days and I did get it on sale a couple months ago. I enjoy the blacks and just the oled in general but I think I'd like qd oled in a 27 instead because of glossy finish. Not sure if to return and take the risk on Alienware 27 tomorrow
In the article about the MSI MPG321URX you write it's second-gen QD-OLED. MSI states "next-gen" and as far as I understand it should be the upcoming Samsung panel, so 3rd gen indeed. Is this just a typo?
@@tftcentral Oh, I see. Makes sense. Then this one is definitely the monitor I have my eyes on! Just hope it's the correct VESA mount size :D. Thank you for all your updates! Really appreciate the in-depth coverage! ❤
What do you think? would it make sense to pair the AW3225QF and the AW3423DWF. Since they are both curved and about the same length. If I were to pair a flat and a curved screen above each other I think it would cause some eye discomfort when switching.
@@heatnup if that’s the case, then it would probably make sense to sell my 34 and have a verticle (portrait) 27 inch as a secondary on the side I’ll see what’s best when it gets there
Thank you for this video. Because I still have a monitor from 2013. (the NEC PA302W) it was super expensive and it has for its time an AMAZING image quality, but now I dont want 60hz anymore, I dont want 34ms input lag anymore and OLED + HDR will look better nonetheless.
I wish someone would make a 6880x2880 monitor, 20 Megapixels is close to the same bandwidth as the Duel 4K resolution of the Neo G9, but 21:9 "7K" would fit videogames a lot better than 32:9 8K.
I am wondering even at 4k with these new panels and a 4090, you will not hit 240hz? Maybe the MFG, know something about the 5090 that still has not been leaked? I have the ASUS PG38UQ, great monitor, and to this day I still cannot find ANY review on this monitor???
@hokayson6518 normally that’s true. I didn’t mention it for each screen in the video as it’s so widespread really. If there’s a screen you like, check the corresponding news piece in the description as it should then be listed in there 😀
Asus is making it really hard to mount things like the Tobii eye tracker under your monitor. This is probably a pretty small segment of market but I don't really like where they are placing the controls / logo for that reason.
Absolutely hate the design language of ASUS products, so cringe inducing - looks like something an edgy 14 year old would come up with and cheapens the entire product. The "chin" on their monitors with that horrid logo is truly ugly.
Additional updates from CES since this video was recorded:
* ASRock Unveil Their New Gaming Monitor Line-up Including OLED Models: tftcentral.co.uk/news/asrock-unveil-their-new-gaming-monitor-line-up-including-oled-models
* MSI MPG272QPX is the First 27″ Size 500Hz Monitor, and it Also Has a Mini LED Backlight: tftcentral.co.uk/news/msi-mpg272qpx-is-the-first-27-size-500hz-monitor-and-it-also-has-a-mini-led-backlight
Great channel, great delivery of information and very well respected, thanks for all your efforts!!
Many thanks!
Really appreciate the content. There seems to be a lot of information on oled monitors all at once. It’s hard to keep track of.
I know! Took forever to compile this in to one hopefully coherent flow of info 😀
What a fiasco w/ the 480hz 1440p from LG not being glossy. Should be a wake-up call in 2025.
Plus no DP2.1 Good riddance!
@@BigJohnson911soo much dsc
Don't forget to peel the plastic🤭
Wait is it not glossy? Is the Asus one glossy?
@TheTykus i think the dell and asus qd oled are glossy, and asus 480hz is not glossy
The Asus WOLED with RGWB pixel array 27", 1440p, 480 HZ is the one I am most looking forward to. If the text clarity issue is solved, I will be an early adopter.
It's gonna be a great monitor for competitive gaming!
Are there any rumors of new mini led non ultrawide monitors coming out this year? I won't buy oled.
If Samsung have finally fixed the gamma curve on their QD-OLEDs I might pick up a 32", but I doubt it. Steam deck OLED have terrible dark shade cut-off, the Alienware QD-OLED had terrible gamma curve too with darks being turned up to hide the rough cut-off. But I know TFTCentral will have the answers when it's finally time to decide. :)
i find the Dell IPS Black montiors very exciting and a great alternative to OLED if you're afraid of burn it, but not if they're more expensive than OLEDS !
We need a Nuremberg Trial for passing a matte monitor off as glossy
Lg will be the equivalent if Hermann goering..excellent but flawed leader 😂
as a mildly apathetic gamer, the asus pg27aqdp 1440p @480 hz first and foremost at 8:33
just make sure it's glossy or at least semi-glossy.
thanks a lot for keeping track of every development. i didn't know that pretty much perfect motion clarity is not far away.
Really hope the ultrawides dont come with an 800r curve for LG. It's great for something like the 45" but for 34" which is what im looking to get it's way too aggressive. A more shallow curve would be perfect to me
Wow… what an amazing lineup of screens. These new screens are the holy grail of monitors!
evil is in detail as always
The holy grail of monitors...until next year!
@@TechnicalArtistry what is next year?
Thank you for the round up monitor news of the CES.
A lot of effort in making these videos!
You’re welcome. Thanks for leaving a nice comment 😀
Give me glossy WOLED + DP2.1 + 3 year warranty and I am sold!
Exactly what I am waiting for. Better black levels than qd-oled by far and DP 2.1 because no DSC is objectively better than DSC.
Gigabyte Aorus FO32U2P is the monitor im most interested in
... do we know if it has a glossy finish too?
It should have standard QDOLED semi glossy finish unless Gigabyte add something on top, which I really doubt
The HP Omen transcend is looking like the best one so far in terms of specs.
If it supports dp 2.1 that is.
So does the Gigabyte.
no so far Gigabyte is #1. HP only said DP 2.1 which there is 4 versions of
And as I said in the video, their latest official press release does not mention it at all!
so no mini LED or regular LCD 16:9 new monitors?
Not announced at CES that we’ve seen
If Gigabyte is supporting UHBR20 that could be really good news for consumers if it means AMD is actually going to attempt to support the full capabilities of DP2.1.
Supposedly the maximum length of a copper cable transmitting UHBR20 is three feet and basically no-one would be able to use it even if a card with this spec did appear, but we could still try things like optical cables.
Extender?
@@nttinvis The signal itself degrades, 80Gbps is too much data for a regular copper display cable to carry.
When VESA announced the spec for DP2.1 it was stated that UHBR20 was only intended to be used internally for systems with an integrated display.
In theory someone needs to make a "Gaming All In One" system with the CPU/GPU inside the monitor housing to properly make use of UHBR20.
@@nttinvis
In theory it wouldn't be difficult for monitor manufacturers to include a Micro ATX mount on the back of the monitor and let people mount their own compact gaming PC with the GPU less than a foot away from the display connection, but that would need A LOT of collaboration from PC parts manufacturers to actually convince the general PC building public this is a good idea.
@@budthecyborg4575 mmm ok
I'm looking forward to seeing a thorough comparison of the 32 inch WOLED vs QD-OLED. I've already seen a lot of arguing which one is better.
Me too
This video was very helpful. Thank you!
Great Vid, hope u add sections to be easier
Will do! Didn’t have time yesterday 😀
Is the new gsync mode an actual hardware update? If so is there going to be a 32 inch 4K OLED monitor with the new gsync hardware?
I know right, all that talking about OLED's and not a word about this crucial feature. No G-Sync hardware module = is not "End Game" , id rather pay 300 extra and have it for some games where screen tearing is big issue. Vsync is garbage 🤢
Not had any official confirmation on that or if it’s just an added updated feature to the current module
@@Goorood 100%👍
I'm still stuck with my TN panel, because I can't decide which monitor to buy, because:
- IPS is off the table, because I can't stand the haziness and IPS glow.
- Most VA is off the table, because I can't stand the curve
- OLEDs are off the table - for now - because I play lots of games like X-COM2 with static UI elements.
Maybe I just have to accept that I have to buy 2 monitors. (1 for office like work and static games and 1 for everything else)
The AOC Q27G3XMN looks interesting - flat VA miniLED
@tszyn indeed. Review here tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/aoc-q27g3xmn
If someone does the work, I would love to know all of the monitors releasing in both Q1/H1 and H2 that have DP2.1 I really hate gigabyte as a company, but that is shaping up to be a great monitor from the looks of it!
This is currently up to date 😀
tftcentral.co.uk/articles/when-is-displayport-2-1-going-to-be-used-on-monitors
Who will win the match between WOLED and QD OLED?
Advantage seems to be on the hype of the glossy QD OLED but no significative difference has been observed by optimum.
What do you think guys ?
Well im more impressed that you got all the name's right on all the panels. Well done, not easy i bet did you do many takes.... thumbs up
Looking for a 42" OLED. Guessing I will have to just go with the LG C4 TV.
4:50 SO FAR the best overall 4K option is MSI:
1. glossy
2. no stupid curvature
3. calm design with nice stand
4. oled panel care and control software.
5. reasonable price (on sale could be less that $1k)
The ONLY downside its NOT Dell: if you are in USA its much more convenient to own Dell than anything else. All other brands you have to go through the HOOPS to RMA.
The most disapointing is 5K 40" Dell:
1. terible IPS panel. (Hello, McFly, its 2024!)
2. prohibitive price.
Really hope that LG 27GS95QE has a glossy screen. Otherwise...what's the point of it when every other spec looks identical to the existing one.
If it does, that's an insta-buy for me. Everything I need.
That’s a possibility as we know there’s a panel in plan like that in that size and spec. Might just be the same matte panel though with increased brightness of 1300 nits. Time will tell
🙏@@tftcentral
No 7680x4320 monitors announced is blasphemy
Keeping an eye on the upcoming 39" ultrawide WOLEDs
It’s matte …
@@rathadam619 Good for me
39” and 3440x1440 is not great. Terrible ppi
@@heatnup completely wrong , you have never seen it in real life buddy, quality looks great , not a noticeable difference, just a bunch of nerds arguing over specs
@@user-ll4wu3kb2m its 95.62 ppi. You haven’t seen 3440x1440 on a screen of that size. 34” 3440x1440 is good ppi but 38” and up should be 3840x1600 at least
I'm hoping for 49" 5120 x 2160 at >120 Hz monitor. The U4025QW is close (better than last years U4021QW @60 Hz), but still 40".
Really appreciate you taking the time to do this!
I'm curious, in your opinion, what do you think will be the best 27 inch OLED, flat panel, glossy, 240hz or higher monitor? Does this even exist?
The closest would be the couple of 27” 360Hz QDOLED monitors covered from Dell and MSI, both are flat and both feature the normal semi glossy screen coating. Avoid the Samsung G6 as that has added matte coating (if you want glossy that is)
@@tftcentral Thank you again for the fast response! I meant to also ask if there will be a 4K option in the 27 inch monitors?
At some point but none announced yet.
@@tftcentral Thank you!
@@tftcentral and Gigabyte?
Apparently there's tons and tons of people out there who exclusively use their PCs for playing games and don't have any concern about permanent burn in from mixed use at all, otherwise there would be way more miniLED monitors or other non-disposable monitor tech being shown. Very disappointing.
Picture by Picture needs to become a feature because it’s never spoken about. I feel like especially on the 34+ monitors it should be required to have that almost. With actual combinations which may help and not just 2 basic configurations
I'd love to see some hands on with the dual mode (4k/1080p) monitors coming out... As someone who plays old games which look better in 1080p, they are tempting even though i so far liked 1440p
If only they have 240hz 4k, 360hz 1440p, 480hz 1080p, that would the dream
@@fercon9892how could you have 1440p and 1080p on the same monitor?
@@Synthesia-ef7hj i dont know enough about monitors to tell u the first technical thing about them bro lol. One of the hardware engineers will find a way for fully adjustable resolution on monitors. Its coming
@@fercon9892 okay let me explain to you why its impossible, say you have 4 dots right? these four dots could represent one big dot that's 4 times the size, but how are you going to use those 4 dots to represent a dot that's twice the size of a single dot?
Gonna look bad
thank you guys that was a quick ces cover up upload on the monitors this year, maybe add in highlights on video minute break downs?
Will add timestamps 👍
I am so disappointed that mini led is getting abandoned. The only things that needed to be improved is haloing and response times (for me). You can’t beat the brightness of a good FALD panel.
odyssey neo g9 57'' is a nice contender I have one and plan on keeping it but I will be grabbing one of these 4k 32'' 240hz oleds I think I will be patient cause I wanna see what 480hz on oled is like also so will wait out for the dual mode monitor
It’s far from being abandoned and I’d expect that to be the main development area for LCD monitors this year. It’s just CES showcases and announcements were heavily around OLED this year, but you can see plenty of mini led LCDs being released, some at very competitive prices.
@@tftcentral in all honesty, how much of an upgrade would you say this 32” ROG swift QD OLED will be compared to the PG27Uq. I play mostly immersive style games. I’m more into the looks and HDR than practically all other aspects. I also have a 4090 to push the frames.
@LexLutha a lot of the performance will be quite similar I would expect but the jump up to a larger screen size and a higher pixel density with 4k would give you a nice boost in image quality I think.
@@tftcentral I’m definitely going to give it a try. I am dying for a 32” 4K screen. The UQX just wasn’t the one.
now the question i have is what are the big differences between the 27" 1440p 360hz monitors?
Apparently the Alienware has a limited HDMI bandwidth, not real/full HDMI 2.1
mostly tuning, they can have the same panel but perform vastly different
Our flats/homes are getting smaller, yet monitors get bigger...For home use 22-24" is the MAX, not any 32" or 48". I don't wonder anymore why people loose their sight if they sit in front of such 32".
Can you also create a list of those that are matte and those that are glossy?
This one is fairly simple thankfully
All QD-OLED models, with the exception of the new Samsung models, are normal semi glossy finish. Samsung have added a matte AG coating to their panels for some reason.
All WOLED panels are matte AG coated as standard right now. Even the 480Hz that was rumoured to be glossy but isn’t
@@tftcentralthe 1440p 480hz panel isn’t glossy? Wasn’t the panel at CES glossy?
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Ouff what a bummer.@@tftcentral Well, then QD-OLED it is. Will you compare the Dolby Vision with HDR10 on them too or is this too niche? Also had another question, but wrote it as a comment before this. Thanks for your efforts, really nice to see any new uploads from TFTCentral.
Thanks for the support. We will of course try and test DV where possible although it’s far more complicated from a pattern generator and measurement point of view
Excellent information. "Maybe" someday these monitor _Word Salad Names_ will get simplified.
are any dp 2.1 (which according to the video isn't even confirmed) wo/qd oled monitors coming out this year, except the one from hp? not a big fan of hp, but might consider getting one. i'm wondering if they are using the newest samsung panel?
The Gigabyte 32” is the only one specifically confirmed and covered in the video. The HP is a lose rumour at the moment as far as we are concerned. Too vague and unconfirmed
4K is so 2023. Should be 6K+, 240hz minimum, ultra-wide, glossy, OLED like. ACER might have the best with that 57". Thanks for the reviews!
classic emotionless British man ! much love from USA
What time and retailers will the new Alienware OLED monitors be available with on 1/11?
Do you think OLED monitors need BFI? Look at those announcements (at least as far as I understand) this feature seems kinda limited (or even non-existent) comparing to its LCD counterpart
It looked very good to be honest in practice on an OLED. more testing to be done for our PG34WCDM review soon 😀
YES! sample and hold blur was the last remnant of motion blur, BFi OBLITERATESS that! ALL HAIL A BLUR FREE FUTURE!!!!
We went from having no options ten years ago in the form of niche prototypes, to a few options a year ago, and now a dozen+ options. It’s nice to finally have choice.
its not a "choice" per se. All these monitors are based on a literally few similar panels, from both samsung and Lg.
And the options are still bad. No glossy screen, no g-sync, bad gamma, etc
Looking forward to the Gigabyte AORUS MO34WQC2, just waiting on info if its G-Sync Compatible or NVIDIA Certified.
Am I the only one waiting for a 27" OLED monitor that you can read text that is not blurry?
Love the videos , very informative, im looking for a bit of advice really , i need a 4k monitor, thats going to be good for 8 hours work a day ( word & excel ) couple of hours gaming a week , then something that has a good colour accuracy for video editing in 4k , currently have the qled g9 , looking at the dell 40" 5k ips black 120hz monitor , could you recommend anything please ?
I think you’d be best looking at LCD monitors instead of OLED for those uses. Something like the Dell U4025QW would be a great choice I think for productivity, massive screen size and resolution to work with. I think that would be a very good choice tbh as long as you’ve got the space for it
@tftcentral Thank you , amazing, informative content mate 🙌
Does anything use the same panel as the mini led samsung odyssey neo g7 4k 166hz without the curve , looks like the perfect monitor but the aggressive curve on a 32" screen is a little off putting
@w33k3ndwanderer don’t believe there’s a flat format version of that panel I’m afraid
Seems a lot of media missed the MSI 27 inch 1440p 500 HZ (!) mini led. Model name: MPG 272QPX Mini led.
It says it got Rapid IPS and 0.5 ms GTG.
You got any more info?
Looking in to it 👍
Is there any seamless monitor at least on the left right side?
Do you speculate that the new WOLED panel will have less text fringing with RGWB than the new QD-OLED panels?
I wouldn’t like to speculate on that until we’ve had chance to compare them 😀
I'm very interested in these new OLED 39" UW models, wondering about pixel density at 3440x1440 tho...will it still be good enough ?
Nope. To low
So... when are these monitors coming out exactly? Asus has yet to announce a release date for the QD-OLED 4K 240hz monitor. We only know it's apparently Q1. But knowing Asus, they might delay it.
1:16These are my dream specs omg 😍😍
Can't wait for the Dell 40 inch 5k ultrawide!
What's with the ridiculously aggressive curvature on the 34" ultrawides. I hate it 😢
This eliminates all my oled options. 😢
Kinda disappointed no odyssey g8 34inch . Was hoping for an upgraded version from the v1 and it’s small but annoying issues .
Nothing about the LG 27GR95UM? I've been waiting for a solid 27" 4K/160hz MiniLED option. The other monitors in this segment all come with their nuisances that tend to not be a problem on LG displays. 1500 local dimming zones, while nowhere near OLED, should still be far better than the other monitors in this range with 500 zones.
I had hopes for 32" mini-led variant of the 950b.
It’s already available on LG’s website
You're in luck, it's as Plenty said, available. I hope they make a 32".
The Dell U4025QW is so close to qualifying as an ideal side monitor but I need it to actually be 5120x2880 to be able to play a full 1440p video while in portrait orientation.
(Right now I use a 4K monitor in portrait to be able to watch video while reading the comments, usually videos are left at 1080p, but with a 5K monitor I could upgrade videos to the next higher common resolution.)
I have a 5k monitor. I just want a higher Refresh-Rate. But seems like I'll have to wait another year or 2...
@@xpodx The new Dell monitor is 120hz, but when it's competing with other LCD 4K120hz monitors that cost THREE TIMES less, by the time the U4025QW is sold for anything under $1K it's going to be totally obsolete.
@budthecyborg4575 right. Yea little bummed out of all the monitors. All 4k or less, and the ones that are higher are to wide and have low ppi compared to 8k 32"
@@xpodx What I really want right now is a quad-Ultrawide at 6880x2880, now that would be a sweet monitor (and it's not unrealistic, 20 megapixels is only 3.5MP more than the Dual 4K panel Samsung Neo G9).
Really I would buy the Neo G9 but 32:9 is an absolutely horrible aspect ratio.
Just give me that pixel count in anything that looks more like a normal monitor.
Man, I just wanted a good 34" (3440x1440) IPS with high refresh rate. :(
And no, I don't want OLED because I'm going to use the monitor during the day for work with a lot of static content and playing at night. Anyways, such a great video and monitors.
so what would be the difference between the closer releasing ASUS pg32ucdm and the pg32ucdp ? apart from the duel refresh rate on the latter and dolby vision on the first monitor that is.
panel type
Do you happen to know if the alienware AW2725DF is g-sync compatible?
Not listed in their press release or spec sheet so I’d assume not certified with them
@@tftcentral damn that’s a shame. Not being g-sync compatible is a deal breaker for me
I Think if msi 27 2k will be good priced im going to pick this one
Do you know if the AW3225QF monitor uses Samsung's 2nd generation or 3rd generation QD-OLED panel? I cannot find a clear answer to that and it's not mentioned on any of the AW3225QF documentation. Dell support told me today that it uses the 2nd generation QD-OLED panel which contradicts what some people are saying so maybe Dell support just doesn't know?
Also, do you know if the firmware is upgradeable similarly to how it's upgradeable on the AW3423DWF model monitor?
All the 27” and 32” QDOLED monitors will be using third gen panels. Those sizes are from their third gen 😀 expect it to be Fw upgradable
I am a bit disappointed by TFTCentral in the lack of non-OLED coverage lately. While OLED is great for gaming, tv, and movies. It still suffers for all-day productivity. I just don't see how task bars aren't going to burn in even if you pixel shift a bit. It isn't like the shift is so huge to move static elements to a complete new area. Text clarity is still an issue.
While I'm not saying OLED isn't a pick for many, the lack of content here on the TN 57in screen (which is pretty unique) and the Dell U4025QW could be a decent high-performance productive and casual gaming monitor.
Well we can’t help that 90% of the interesting monitor news coming out of CES was for Oled screens 😀 we do have some LCD panel roadmap updates coming soon which will hopefully give a taster of what we can look forward to in that space soon, but most manufacturers are currently focused on OLED to be honest
I love your webpage, i have been following you for more then 10 years i think 😊 do you think we will see a cable that will support 8k 360hz uncompressed sometime? 😅
Thanks for the support! Eventually I guess we’d see a cable like that, but the max currently being produced and developed with be those for DP 2.1 at 80Gbps Bandwidth
PG32UCDM should be glossy right?
Standard QDOLED semi glossy coating yes
All of these monitors seem to be FreeSync / G-Sync Compatible. Do you think native G-Sync is still relevant? I would pay a little extra for that feature.
nvidia charges $200 for gsync
which of the Q1's do you think will be the best? and have the least Matte coating?
Which size do you mean?
@@tftcentral 32" 4k 240's
@mz1929 all those except the Samsung G80SD will have the same standard semi glossy coating from QDOLED panels. Hard to say which the best will be until they’re reviewed though
@@tftcentral please let us know ASAP if you hear of release dates for Giga or HP
Interesting if one of those 32 inch 4k qd-oled will have 1440p/1080p scaling options as well? The gigabyte version feature is probably more to do with color saturation rather then resolution. I will personally wait for your/rtings/monitors unboxed review of the 1440p 360hz qd-oled.
Why no love for HDMI 2.1 from the manufacturers? My laptop has HDMI 2.1 at the back but monitors don't support it so I have to have a cable sticking out to the side to do DP over USB-C :/
Oh a lot of these will have HDMI 2.1. I didn’t list it as it’s largely a standard feature now. Certainly the 32” 4K models should all feature it. Check specifics in the linked news articles where further specs are covered 😀
@@tftcentral You're right! That's really good news, thanks!
It's a minor detail but an annoying one.
Kinda want a 27" 4k OLED, or a an 34" 4K OLED Ultrawide monitor
I have the predator x35 for 3 years and i would like to change it for the Next Asus pg39.
Is the tcl 57 ultra wide a thing? Seen nothing on if tcl csot will actually sell their versions of the panels they're making
They’re just a panel manufacturer. That’s the panel adopted in screens like the Samsung G95NC 😀
My LG 27 w-oled from 2023s return deadline is in 3 days and I did get it on sale a couple months ago. I enjoy the blacks and just the oled in general but I think I'd like qd oled in a 27 instead because of glossy finish. Not sure if to return and take the risk on Alienware 27 tomorrow
Act fast!
In the article about the MSI MPG321URX you write it's second-gen QD-OLED. MSI states "next-gen" and as far as I understand it should be the upcoming Samsung panel, so 3rd gen indeed. Is this just a typo?
Yes it was from before we had details of third gen. Now updated 👍
@@tftcentral Oh, I see. Makes sense. Then this one is definitely the monitor I have my eyes on! Just hope it's the correct VESA mount size :D. Thank you for all your updates! Really appreciate the in-depth coverage! ❤
How is it that there realy arnt any mini LEDs in OLED form factore comeing out
wdym by “oled form factor”
Any word on the brightness for the lg display's 10% window
What about the MSI mini-LED 1440p 500hz?
What do you think? would it make sense to pair the AW3225QF and the AW3423DWF.
Since they are both curved and about the same length. If I were to pair a flat and a curved screen above each other I think it would cause some eye discomfort when switching.
The 32” will be much taller and the 34” will be much wider. They won’t look good alongside each other
@@heatnup what about above? That was the ask. I don’t think side by side it would look good
@@chrisunlmtdI think stacking monitors is horrible. I’ve done it before and it strained my neck and I ended up just using my bottom monitor only.
@@heatnup if that’s the case, then it would probably make sense to sell my 34 and have a verticle (portrait) 27 inch as a secondary on the side I’ll see what’s best when it gets there
Will the Ultrawide with the LG Panel use the new WOLED RGWB Layout or the old one?
Old one. Only the 27” 480Hz and 32” 4k 240Hz panels have the new layout. And later panels coming in the future
@@tftcentral ah damn. Thanks for your reply!
Thank you for this video. Because I still have a monitor from 2013. (the NEC PA302W) it was super expensive and it has for its time an AMAZING image quality, but now I dont want 60hz anymore, I dont want 34ms input lag anymore and OLED + HDR will look better nonetheless.
34ms because your display is 60hz (16.67ms) and has terrible input lag?
@@goblinphreak2132 It has high input lag, yes. Its not a gaming monitor. Its full on image quality.
I wish someone would make a 6880x2880 monitor, 20 Megapixels is close to the same bandwidth as the Duel 4K resolution of the Neo G9, but 21:9 "7K" would fit videogames a lot better than 32:9 8K.
I am wondering even at 4k with these new panels and a 4090, you will not hit 240hz? Maybe the MFG, know something about the 5090 that still has not been leaked? I have the ASUS PG38UQ, great monitor, and to this day I still cannot find ANY review on this monitor???
Thats why its more practical to go 1440p for high framerates not every game will have good upscaling support
the bigger news is song getting out of oled instead going for mini led tech
4K 240 / 1080p 480hz is great if glossy
not sure if its worth waiting for the LG panel
I think I’ll be waiting, I will then buy an lg panel and a QD oled samsung and test before picking one and sending it back
I really wonder that what were acer designers thinking while desiging the predator x34 v3
What is the coating of Alienware oled 4k ?
Standard QD OLED semi glossy
I'm very curious about those WOLED 34" Ultrawides.
32" 4k 240Hz QD-OLED. Did we just complete gaming monitors? I hope one of them has a KVM, I can't go back!
Quite a few of them do 😀
@@tftcentral oh excellent news! Is it as simple as all the ones you mentioned having USB C? The two seem to often go hand in hand.
@hokayson6518 normally that’s true. I didn’t mention it for each screen in the video as it’s so widespread really. If there’s a screen you like, check the corresponding news piece in the description as it should then be listed in there 😀
Do all of these fix the text clarity issue on 4k oled panels? Are particular monitors NOT fixing this?
its fixed
It was never an issue in the first place, even less on these smaller monitors.
Is there oled announced with flicker free tech ? Im ultra sensitive to flicker and can't use a regular oled :(
OLED don’t have flickering brightness for static use, but do you mean the flicker you get in VRR situations ?
any news on the AOC PD49 ?
Asus is making it really hard to mount things like the Tobii eye tracker under your monitor. This is probably a pretty small segment of market but I don't really like where they are placing the controls / logo for that reason.
Absolutely hate the design language of ASUS products, so cringe inducing - looks like something an edgy 14 year old would come up with and cheapens the entire product.
The "chin" on their monitors with that horrid logo is truly ugly.
I am seeing Way too many OLED monitors with an anti glare coating. Oh well, I guess Dell will get my money. Glossy all the way boys
only Dell heard wt we need the 4k ultrawide 120 hz, jeez