MEXICO SHOT ITSELF IN THE FOOT. Expats will go to THESE 6 COUNTRIES instead.
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- Many people no longer have the income to qualify for residency in Mexico. Fortunately, there are a lot of great alternatives!
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In recent years, especially in 2022, the requirements to get Mexican residency have gone up like crazy. There are many people who dreamt about living the good life in retirement in Mexico but can no longer qualify for residency.
The Mexican government is going to do what they're going to do, but fortunately, there are many great (and cheaper) alternatives.
In this video I'm going to share with you 6 of my favorite residency programs in 2022.
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I'm Jordan and am an American living in Mexico with my Husky, Laska. In January of 2018 I left the US to start traveling Mexico. Since then, I've been making travel videos about my life in Mexico, travel tips, Las Vegas tips videos, and advice for those considering moving abroad.
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They can raise it for expats already living there?
@@debraemilligan Once you have residency you don't have to worry about future increases
@@TangerineTravels I have a residente temporal.It expires in 18 months and i'm supposed to transition automatically to residente permanente.However,if they ask if i meet the new financial requirements for the permanent visa i'll be screwed.Will they ask me for 6 months of financial statements?
@@darrellknox9581 They will probably ask your for bank statements but I've never heard about anyone getting denied a renewal or an upgrade to permanent once they already have residency
@@k_and_m8745 Based on the comments, it seems your right about the recent change to 1275 for the retiree visa. Also, they have a new digital nomad visa that's pretty appealing! Thanks for the info about the renewal options for the tourist visa!
Honestly i think this is a good step for Mexico and the people living there because most land is being bought up by foreigners. That causes the prices to rise for locals who make $100 per week maybe less
Tell me Eduardo how does drastically increasing the dollar requirements to expat to Mexico helps the locals??
@@kellyname5733You're right. I've been coming to surf and camp in Mexico for over 40 years. I liked it when it was more for the rugged type of traveler. When you knew where everything wasn't going to be easy getting there. They made some parts of Mexico too comfortable for usually picky, wealthier people who didn't come for any of the culture but came to mingle only with their type. Heard that's happening in Lake Chapala, they've made it so the locals can't afford to live in town anymore and some are even demanding the vendors to start speaking English! Saying that, I still think I should be able to get residency with over 12 times the minimum wage, or at least a guarantee of being able to stay for a full 180 days. I know the villages I stay in are always happy to see me!
The foreigners buying that land will still qualify and still buy, most never become residents.
@@kellyname5733 this doesn't make any sense
Just like the US is being bought up by foreign investors.
I live in Panama for eight years, boring compared to Mexico. Mexico is so much better.
@@MrSgtau *vomit* such an ironic statement, and if you made it here in the USA about the lovely south of the border "immigrants", you would be immediately roasted for racism.
@@Skiis44 We, as potential shopping mexican tourists, prefer to go to Europe because we are more concerned of the massive shootings perpetrated by insane idiots in your country 🙄🙄🙄
What a coincidence!
@@karlvaneyck You don't have many massive shootings but crime and homelessness have definitely increased here. I haven't travelled anywhere outside the USA recently due to Covid. Hopefully that will be over soon.
We found that the people of Panama are not as happy as Mexicans
@@Cwra1smith No really is only the beginning for agenda 21, you will owe nothing and be happy.
As a "permanent resident" and home owner in Mexico I am happy that Mexico feels that their economy is strong enough to start being more selective regarding the financial security of potential residents. This action complements their already tough position on illegal aliens. I don't think "ease of entry" is the best criteria for somebody looking for a place to retire. Visit as many countries as you can, stay as long as you can, and learn as much as you can about them; then, make your decision.
thank you for being so understanding, you are the type of people we like having in mexico
If we could afford to go visit the world then maybe we would find somewhere else. I want the Mexican culture I grew up with living in the Hispanic area in Las Vegas NV.. the year round climate.. and still be close to the USA for family . I hardly think what I make is ease of entry! Where we are in the USA, housing went from 500 a month to 1500 for the same neighborhood. Same house.
@@kellyname5733 Maybe because they don't want foreigners to treat their nation as a big retirement home.
@@kellyname5733 a police officer make no more than 600 a month....
@@mikelbrenn111 Keep in mind Mikel that American tourists/expats spend 24 Billion in Mexico each year. Every country wants 24 Billion to flow into their country.
Mexico is really one of the most amazing countries!!! Not only is it huge, but there are sooo many different places! Beaches, mountains, deserts, jungles, volcanos - you can explore Mexico for years and still not see it all! 😍😍😍
yup and it's minimum wage gone up to alot which affects the price raises so not surprising
Natalie, I can explore the world for years and I don t see it all
@@robertvictor3237
Can you explain this in more detail?
@@moreno-lh7ys Spoken like a true Mexicana! Sweet! Not all humans are deep like you are. Perfectly said. 🤗😁
@@moreno-lh7ys 🙏🏻
Mexico simply wants to make sure you're sending your best.😂
Great comment, so ironic right?
As Mexico floods the United States with it's worst.
@@leeread6757 we're not that bad are we?
@@fernandosoto5824 right? Mexican ex pats living in the United States have a much harder path to legal residency. Can I call us ex pats, or are we immigrants because we're brown? 🤔
@@marcoarreola9058 Exactly that is why I think the focus of this video is unfair specially considering that a good percentage of their audience is Mexican, you have to analyze the subject from different angles.
Jordan, I like what you're doing with your channel, (post break). Sometimes "we walked here, we ate that" is fine but solid info for the traveler helps so much more. It's nice to hear other travelers takes on places to investigate. Cheers.
Great comment
I Most def agree 👍🏽 great direction for the channel, valuable insights
Mexico has been an incredibly welcoming, open country for a long, long time. Was it taken for granted?
I'd say yes, and in some instances it was abused as usually happens in diferent levels and aspects in life so now everyone pays
minimum wage in the last year gone up alot which affects so this is not surprising at all just in 2022 ot increase 23 percent so no not surprising
@@benchoflemons398 LMAO, you’ve never been here. There’s tons of business run by wealthy foreigners.
He’s absolutely not an example of a grateful person.
Don't be so quick to blame former beneficiaries. Could be simple inflation, simple supply and demand realities. Could be nobody's "fault". Thise who don't really understand human nature, economic levers, or how things work are always looking for scapegoats who supposedly "caused" others to become harsher with them.
Great video. I have heard from friends who retired in Portugal that its getting more and more crowded on the Algarve and other spots on the coast. This is what always happens..places become popular and prices go up! Some places in costa rico as well. I think Mexico is doing the right thing for their people.
You heard correctly. Portugal is incredibly busy! It is the most popular among digital nomads. Maaaany are buying properties, so there is more restrictions now.
I just returned from Costa Rica. Better have some deep, deep pockets, if you're considering there...And, you can certainly count on the prices increasing...
If expats found another country that they likes it, perfect, its ok. I'm sure Mexico still remains as a Wonderful place to live for everyone and forever. I'm very happy that in Mexico a lot of things are really changing for good.
You are so right, but now I'm so sad about the new changes that make me unqualified for retirement visa and let me tell you this: I love México but sadly is not for me now.
Yes mi Mexico es lo mejor que todos, but sad to say with alot of changes Mexico made people will be looking for the next cheap and easy country.. this move might have been good in some ways but it may end up hurting Mexico in the end!
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@@raquelhernandez1209 though so many baby boomers are near/at retirement age, Mexico may not see much of a dip in immigration overall.
Changing for good how so? I mean, more complicated immigration law it's still the same.
It's not a permanent measure. We all know all countries modify their migration laws as they see fit. This temporary measure is looking to weed out some bad apples, and at the same time, it will end up encouraging more people to seek Mexican citizenship. There is no law in North America prohibiting anyone from having two or three citizenships.
@@moreno-lh7ys Thank You, I've added your endorsement to the multiple others I've received.
Nope sorry to inform the us of a but
1. Mexicos president is already almost done with Mexicos biggest refinery that will supply EVERY mexican with more than enough & affordable prices even enough to export millions of barrel to other countries.
2. he is making a train to connect 5 states to allow the people for faster travel to the city for work and faster travel for security and public benefit
3. (Panama HAD the only canal in NA)a canal in mexico is being made and should be done sooner than later w mexicans desperate to rebuild quickly it will alow for asian trade specifically china who the usa doesn’t want to do business with 🤣
4. THIS year the miltary is cracking down on cartels more than ever and obrador is planning to take all the money that the goverments robbed from the people as they are traitors to the country
In the end idk why you mad mexico is finally tired of being shit on by the usa because hispanics have been doing bad because USA wants weak neighbors so they’re not a risk 🤡
They are MIGRATING to USA the border is open to all invaders
Well to be honest I don't like the title of this video, "Mexico shoot it self in the foot", really? is that what you think? that Mexico is really losing an opportunity? I have nothing negative to say about the new regulations I think is something that concern to us in our country and shouldn't be a subject of judgement,, I bet most of your subscribers are Mexicans or at least 50/50, so to be fair why not a comparison between what it takes for a Mexican to get legal residence in USA, France, Germany, Italy, England or Spain? I want to believe that a person that really love Mexico as their new home will do the effort to get the residence if you want to go to a place just because its easier or you get a better bang for your buck I think the world is full of alternatives, I don't think that we are really "losing" an opportunity, Mexico will stay open to anybody that want to come here and be part of our culture and impact in a positive way to our economy and society.
It's a bit weird to see people reacting this way when for someone like me, young woman with a college degree, no kids/single, okayish English would take me thousands of dollars and 40! years until i get a green card/US citizenship. But I get it, they're not used to meet a lot of requirements, that's why I don't take it personally, I don't think we Mexicans should take it personally, his channel's main audience is American/Canadians so it only makes sense Jordan is talking to them, not us :)
Yes, I do think that. I estimate that these changes will force 500,000 Americans and Canadians to choose other countries instead of Mexico. Conservatively, the average of whom would be spending $1,500 USD/month in Mexico. That's about $9,000,000,000 USD in economic activity every year. From that, the Mexican government will collect about $2,700,000,000 in taxes. The remaining $6,300,000,000 will be spent back into the economy generating that much more economic activity plus another $2,000,000,000 in taxes. The remaining $4,000,000,000 will be spent back into the economy, generating another $1,200,000,000 of taxes and so on until the government has collected the full amount in taxes.
So, because of these changes, every year Mexico will be losing 10s of billions of dollars in economic activity and billions of dollars in tax revenue. Maybe Mexico doesn't need several billion dollars a year, but it sure doesn't hurt.
@@TangerineTravels May I ask where you get your numbers from? 500k USA and Canadians wanting to move here? In what period of time? According to wikipedia there are around 800k Americans and just 13k Canadians living in Mexico, and surely it took a lot of years to grow to that number, decades most likely. I don't think we will be losing billions from expats not living here, surely you know our first source of income is what our own expats send from the USA to their families here, and that is 4.4 billions USD, according to the government. I too understand how youtube works and the need for catchy titles, and to be honest, I think anyone wanting to come here should do their own research and contact a good lawyer.
@@TangerineTravels Jordan, thanks for replying I really find hard to believe that we are talking about 500k I think the last statistics that I found indicate that around a million US citizens have permanent residence status and the number of Canadians is really low, between 15 and 18k, 500k is the half of the permanent residents but let's say that your number is right and I do believe your other estimations are correct because all that come from your experience living here, to me what matters the most is how many of those 500k really wanted to move from a temporary status to a permanent one because we have been listening for years that many temporary residents were constantly violating the temporary visa of 180 days, if my memory is not failing the fee for exceeding the 180 days was really low so nobody really considering important to left the country on time so I want to believe the new regulations are only temporary to discourage all the travelers that were not following the rules, changes not necessarily have to be permanent, just let me clarify something because one time I left a comment in one of your previous videos and everything went totally out of control, last time I checked my comment had hundreds of replies many of them completely negative and my replies come with a total respect to you as a person, this is not US vs Mexico or US citizen vs Mexican citizen is just an opinion we are not fighting here, take care!
I think Mexico will continue to he attractive to people because of their infrastructure, closeness to USA and I think it's easier for folks from states etc to adjust to. It's really going to deter people who are too poor to afford residency and folks that were planning to stay long term on tourist visas.
Well, I hope people think twice, mexico has its own rules and many cartels run the place.
Great video Jordan. as usual. I love having all your info in one place. I took notes. It is disappointing I no longer see retiring /living in Mexico as possible but I will be visiting and looking at your videos to help my choices. Keep up the great work. thanks so much.
I went to Panama last year. I went with Panama Relocation Tours. We visited all areas. It will cost me more to live there than in the US unless I want to live in a shack. The only thing cheaper was local food. To anyone wanting to relocate there, you have to have a FBI background check. Any felonies and yes, that includes a DUI and even if it has be expunged. I do not have any felonies but, a lot of people spend a lot of money to rent or buy only to be struck down and loose everything. Better have a good attorney as well. I highly recommend the tour. They cover everything, hold your hand, and make sure you are not taken advantage of. I qualify for Mexico as well. I’m going on the Mexico Relocation Tour soon. Same people and I trust them. Follow both on you tube for a wealth of knowledge. Knowledge is power.
Agree with you 100%. We toured Belize, Panama, Costa Rica and all of them have pros and cons, but if you look beyond visas and consider actual internet reliability, food costs, medical care, and bank account access and reporting, you get the picture that Mexico may still be best option.
@@jmaatgreen7894 We've had fabulous medical care in Mexico. Another advantage is that we're just over half an hour to Guadalajara airport - so easy to go back to visit family in Canada. We've lived here almost 17 years and love it.
Perhaps it would be worthwhile to add to your analysis the reasons why Mexico took these measures. It would be interesting. Without that context it is hard to know if Mexico shoot itself in the foot or not. Seems that Mexico wouldn't add these requirements if it did not think there were also some benefits of doing so. More context and a broader overview would make your video more interesting. Sure, I understand that you have a main target audience, i.e. Americans thinking about relocating abroad, but I am sure you could share a deeper perspective on the context given that you have spent so many years in Mexico now. This could be interesting to other smaller segments of you audience , e.g. me.
Thank you !!!! He missed alot in this video glad I'm not the only who thought that
Andres I agree. They could be cutting off billions of expat $$.
correct, he went for the "Click bait" and doesn't understand that this isnt the way to earn trust in his videos. I hated the title.
Look up the UMA. It's basically a law that was passed in 2016 to keep Government fees low. It's the law and is used for Governmental processes in Mexico, but was never applied to the Economic Solvency requirements like it should have been when the law was passed. Since 2016 "They" keep saying they are going to change it.
Exactly! it only "shoots itself on the foot" when the people who exploits the system finally stops benefitting from it.
Wow, what a great video! I'm glad I've already been able to get our Mexican residency before the income requirements went up. However, knowing how to get residency in other countries is beyond helpful. Thank you!
At this moment and for some time to come, I would not consider Georgia or any eastern European countries as a place to reside. One has to take into account the military conflict that is taking place in that part of the world. Georgia in particular already had confrontation with Russia some years ago. In fact, I would say the safer places to be in case of a world conflict would be Uruguay, southern Brazil, Chile and perhaps Argentina. As far as countries where obtaining a retirement visa is easier, Portugal is the one in western Europe. Now rents have gone up A LOT in Lisbon and Porto. Buying an apartment there is also super expensive, but there are other more affordable options in Portugal and it is a very safe country, as far as crime is concerned. In this part of the world, Panama is hot and humid all year and expensive as well. People depend on the automobile even in places like Panama City almost as much as in the US. Ecuador is a good option. Uruguay is the most expensive country in Latin-America, followed by Chile or perhaps they are tied. Argentina, on the other hand, is very cheap, but suffers from high inflation and other problems. It still offers good healthcare, and you could even attend the university there for free.
Russia is just putting an end to war thats been happening on their border past 8 years, which should hopefully make all European nations, more secure,,
Luis, I almost swallowed my chaw when I saw your comment about free university! Really? How do they prevent large numbers of, say Chinese for example, from just arriving to study. You may not may not know that Cambodia has been overrun by the Chinese in recent years...
Yes, potential conflict in Eastern Europe does concern me. I'd be hesitant to relocate there long term. This was true even before the current Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Make no mistake. If Putin is successful in Ukraine,he’s going after Georgia. His words.
@@debbie4938 I've wondered about that very thing.
This video is very helpful and one of my new favorites. I have recently been contemplating moving outside of the U.S.
NGL I’m happy Mexico is doing this , it’s getting too expensive for locals in some places like Oaxaca. The only thing that sucks is that a lot of locals also depend on these people to make a living , luckily Mexicans are resilient and always find a way 🤗💕
I think the big difference is going that ONLY people with lots of money will be getting residency. They will continue to drive prices up.
I was wondering about that. How to balance opportunities for locals versus attracting foriegners who will spend cash at local businesses. Many big US cities are struggling with similar issues at gentrification sweeps through what had been working class areas pricing out people who've lived in areas for decades, generations even.
I don't mind paying my fair share to live there. It's climate I'm looking for and the culture and food.. but I can't afford to live in my own country with the crazy cost of Healthcare and the winters here are killing me
@@sdrockrgirl My sister was early retired years ago from a large corp. She decided to keep the same coverage her job had offered. Job paid the first year. Cost her about $1k/month after that. This was a solid but not amazing plan. She's over 65 now so she has much cheaper coverage but still! I'm hoping to avoid that entirely by leaving the US. I don't want to throw away tens of thousands on medical coverage in order to retire here before age 65..
@Viqui Aye thing is this.. I make more than what is considered the top 1 percent in mexico.. but.. they want you to make even more than what I make to get residency. Doent mexico understand people like me want a great climate and would rather spend all of our money there? You would thing that people who seriously want to be there and are learning the language and make decent money would be accepted.
I am glad my country is doing something to get rid of this "tourism" that doesnt help anyone.
24 Billion is spent in your country by American tourists/expats per year. Just about any country on the planet would love to have that money flowing through their country. And I'm sure the Mexican Govt. loves it too
Tourism is welcome, but migrants make life actually hard for people who actually was born and rised there. The price of rent in popular places all around the globe declined because of covid, but in mexico city, the prices actually rised because migrants are filling the holes that actual mexicans left, because they can pay it with their minimum salary. Try living here with the minimum salary here and it's hell, live with minimum salary from a developed country and you live like a king... and business people treat you like a king. I don't like feeling like a second-rate citizen in my own city, in my own town, when businesses give preferential tratment to migrants. I have a friend who lives in Cancún, and she told me this happened to her all the time over there, I thought it was unfair and annoying, but it was understandable because of the hefty tourism there, but that started to leak into cities, and that started to be problematic. So maybe the gov is into something for taking this measures.
@@kellyname5733 still doesnt cover the BS Mexico has had to deal with since 1848.
Thanks you, this guy clearly is just in it for the money. That’s why I love xyz, cyz, now. 🤦♀️ this guy in no doubt will move and I’m ok if he does. We don’t need greedy people like him. 80,000 especially from an American salary and economy can be more attainable since he is from that country but 80,000 to a resident and local is like 300,000 (this is not really but saying this in perception of it). Those people don’t sell tacos for 2 dollars because they think it’s cheap, they see it at that because many locals will think it’s a common range price. If someone were to say that fast food some meals are 11 dollars now, and say that’s cheap, most people will be surprised that you think that. Especially if you are paying for more than one person. I don’t know what rich country would think that but saying it in a perspective where our prices are low would be crazy.
@@minnie.-.l Minnie what is xyz & cyz?
Great video Jordan! I really appreciate all your research and your sharing it with others.
This was SUPER interesting! I would never have thought of some of these places. Thank you so much for making this video!
Thanks for the great information, looking forward to your upcoming videos.
people do not get the signs. Mexico needs to rise residence req for what's coming for the Union of North America in 2030.
You better get your residency for Mexico granted now as financial req will go up & up. You'll look back as one of the best decisions for you & your family.
Am I allowed to have triple citizenship? 😅
Channels not the same since the breakup. No spark anymore
Georgia is an absolutely wonderful country with a very inexpensive cost of living by most standards. The food is indeed off the charts and Tbilisi a great blend of modern and traditional architecture. The one year visa on arrival is simply hard to beat. I’ve been 5 or 6 times now and I love the Republic of Georgia.
Toi close to Russia for my liking.
@@catherinemelnyk That’s understandable it’s probably cold too.
@@donald8354 Considering Russia had a brief invasion into Georgia and the same nut is still at the helm, why take a chance?
Best video yet. Especially the info on Georgia. It wasn't a country we had considered initially so thank you for pointing it out. We'll definitely look into it in further detail.
I think Georgia borders Russia. Maybe you can bring a helmet with you.
Don't be afraid of the Russians. As long a country is not killing Russian people in their country like Ukraine does in the Donbas erea, or a danger American Cat4 Biolab build next to the Russian border that leaks Smallpox virusses, like Ukraine does, the Russians are oké. Ukraine was warned several times....
@@pluisnonplux9728 I don’t think anyone is afraid of the Russian army now. Putin has shown the world how weak it is.
You always can go down in budget and find a mosquito swamp in asia or south america to " live" for 300 usd a month...but the question here is... ¿ is that what you want ? and what are the implications of that?
Is that even possible no
Now?
If I had money for a $300,000+ house, I wouldn't need to leave the USA. lol This teacher's salary isn't cutting it! The house I'm building in Mexico is only $24,000 + $15,000 for the land.
Where are you able to build for that price?! My husband and I (with our 2 kids) moved to Mexico last year and we’re looking for a $30k-ish house but not finding much online. We’re flexible on which city we settle in and price is our biggest factor right now.
@@jenniferposton3869 Nowhere anyone else goes...small town outside of Pachuca and I'm also working with local people, not people that specialize in expats so they jack up the price
@@jenniferposton3869 It is quite low, but have you consider Tampico? near city center probably is to expensive, but outside the city you may find a suitable place or a small apartment. I know Tamaulipas has a bad rep, but Tampico is a nice place to live.
Georgia is interesting, but with the war that just started in Ukraine, I'm afraid that things may change quickly. The only bad thing about Georgia is unfortunately its location. Iran and Iraq at the South and Ukraine/Russia at the north. I hope things don't get worse than they are in that corner of the world, but things don't look promising as of now. 🥺
Yeah, as an European citizen I can see that at the moment south America is more relaxed than Europe or the middle east... Unfortunately.
You’re absolutely right, and also one thing that some people don’t mention when analyzing locations is whether or not it is safe for LGBT people, which I am not convinced that Georgia is
Georgia is run by the Mafia. Clownish comment.
Agreed. Wayyyy too much ethnic conflict within and around Georgia. Also, Georgia has just 4% arable land (compared to 17% for US). Food scarcity will always be a problem. Hard no.
¡Viva, México! This country actually has an immigration policy and has every right to say adios to those expats who don’t meet their minimum requirements. Yet another plus for why amazing México is an excellent option for anyone who has his or her shit together.
But USA has no right to reject poor Mexicans?
@@val91201 That’s the USA’s problem/decision/choice; and can’t be blamed upon México. The problem with the USA is that common sense is, well, not all that common. After the conman’s 2016-2020 reign, the USA has lost its moral authority to comment on any other country worldwide.
P.S. The USA benefits from economically abusing the immigrants from México. How many strawberries have you picked and toilets have you scrubbed today?
@@val91201 expats…expats. They were talking about expats babe.
The U.S. should require the same $2000. Then my tax dollars will not be spent on a million illegal immigrants.Why are all these Mexicans entering the U.S illegally if Mexico is so great.I say deny them entry and let Mexico take care of their own.
Very interesting areas I might not have considered. Great job Jordan!
So many countries are underrated. I wanna visit Albania one day. People say "why on earth would you go to a place like that?". Well, because it's cheap, it's safe, Enver Hoxha hasn't been the dictator since 1991, and it shares the same coast line with Greece and Croatia for a fraction of the cost.
I went to Albania with my friend two and half years ago, as two females…i was a bit worried, when we went in a private car, not knowing the person, to see the sites, the Blue Eye, and the lookout view of the ocean. The driver went out of his way to look after us. The people are so friendly and helpful. You will love it there.
Croatia has its affordable spots too.
Albania is a wonderful country. Tirana and the coast made for a fun trip.
I had a good experience with albania too
How easy is it to get around with English (or French)? I speak a good chunk of French and a small amount of Spanish which I'm working on, but Albania is a whole other language, sharing absolutely nothing with any other Romance Languages
Medellin is the best option, perfect weather all year round, 38% cheaper than Mexico, only 3 hours from Miami, friendly people and more security than Mexico and above all drinking water from the tap.
6 hours from Miami??? I thought it was 3!
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I want to retire in Medellin or Bucaramanga. With Petro as president I expect things to improve gradually.
@@TobyNomad Yes you're right! it's 3 hours and not 6
LOL@@LouieManza
I don’t think they have shot themselves in the foot. I think they’re tired of the riff-raf that were coming to Mexico for a cheap lifestyle (and cheap alcohol). One of the things I love about tangerine travels is that the channel was about culture, food, language, where as now your focus seems to moving more toward value for money, cheap finds, and how you can have a mansion in Mexico for the price of a shack in the USA. That should not be what promoting living in Mexico should be about or even be a focus. Moving to Mexico to save money will loose its charm within 6 months tops. Let’s focus on promoting Mexican culture rather than what a bargain it is!
I see both sides of this argument. Culture and language is important. I also see that many people outside of Mexico are looking for a more affordable living option. So I can see why that change has occurred.
Speak for yourself dude, been in GDL for 7 months mostly to saving money and hasn't lost charm at all. Stop being a Karen.
I don't know where you're getting cheap alcohol. It's more expensive here than it is in the States. And nobody is getting a "mansion" here on the cheap either.
We lived in Costa Rica for a little over a year and decided early on that we weren't going for residency until at least 1 year. The reason was that "border runs" every 90 days were easy and cheap and the cost of residency was fairly expensive. Generally, it was around $2,500 or so (and lots of paperwork) per person. So, we saved $5,000 by deciding not to get residency. We just made border runs and visited back home (USA) every so often. Residency there got you free medical through their socialized medicine (most expats choose private health care), not having to leave every 90 days and a few other perks. It just wasn't worth the money for us. My advice, don't buy a house and get residency for at least 1 year and DO enjoy the experience!
My point exactly. Sometimes having a residency does not make sense when you consider all the hassle and expense.
In the area of unintended consequences, because the minimum income requirement for foreigners is tied to the Mexican minimum wage which is rising every year (it's still too low IMHO) it is making it difficult for many Mexicans in some areas to find affordable rental housing. The government really needs to separate these two things because the people coming in from America and Canada for the last few years have a lot of disposable income. Another thing to note is that all embassies do not all stick to the income rules absolutely. I have lived in Mexico for 11 years now.
From América what you mean Argentina , Chile, Colombia ,Perú, Paraguay, Uruguay, Ecuador, Venezuela, etc, etc,etc,
I am still amazed that the requirements and documentation can vary from embassy to embassy. That's just wild to me.
@@venanciobernabe7334 Ya sabes que los norteamericanos le dicen a su país America, no te hagas
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No. In English speaking nations we do not teach that there is one continent; we are taught that north and South America are two separate continents. Therefore, we speak of the Americas when speaking of this hemisphere as a whole.
@Susan Elliott
Eleven years?
And haven't learned much about geography in Mexico haven't you?
America vs USA? un niño de segundo grado te ayudaría a entenderlo un poco mejor... eleven years 🙄😒!!
Good info. Hope your having an amazing day
Keep making videos Jordan. I like you and your voice is soothing
Check out the "I Go Panama" CZcams channel. The woman made comparisons between Costa Rica, Belize and Panama and made the decision to go to Panama which she explained in a couple of videos. Everything else have been about living Panama including getting visas and a referral to a lawyer she used to secure their visa (with her husband).
Thank you YF Khan! I will check it out. I think like there is a right fit for everyone. I am grateful that you shared this information and perspective on Panama.
Well at least Mexico has options to being legal in Mexico, not like the immigration nightmare North of the border. Also according to other youtube channels lots of people are still moving to Mexico for proximity and more.
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Jordan, enjoyed your video as always. I'm so jealous seeing those absolutely gorgeous photographs. Well done!
I think it's great, it empowers the Mexican citizens who can now profit off their land.
¡Viva Mexico!
Another very informative video, Jordan !
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Interesting how if you move off the "usual path" ( Mexico) for Americans and Canadians there are better and easier living options. Portugal sounds very appealing !
it is a STRONG position against illegal aliens even if they are americans ,.hopefully mexico will get rid of the bad hombres .
Thanks for this, Jordan! Excellent research & much appeciated!!
Ecuador already was, and is, at the top of my list; I probably would never have thought of Georgia but I will definitely give it some thought now. VERY interesting!
Montañita Ecuador is a nice little beach town. Check it out.👍
You may want to reconsider, considering the conflicts with Russia. It's a hot zone right now. Just give it some thought after extensive research. ❤️
@@Byron4RollTide Will do!
@@JimDodahday Yes, indeedy.
Gregg too much turmoil in that region and Russia has already tried to invade Georgia before.
Just because of the increase of money needed? Lol you still dont need visa to enter Mexico, be worried when this happens, many americans are moving to Mexico, this country needs to have a way of regulate undeliberated migration, you have USD, its easy to have 2600 usd income
Really? So do tell me how because I have been busting my butt for 40 years and even with university it's often difficult to get that unless you live in a huge city. Then even if you do make that you can't afford to live in that big city
Yes, I’m on social security and when I started planning for retirement in Mexico not 3 months later they raised the limit so I no longer qualify. I’ve been looking at the countries you mentioned as well as Turkey. I have friends there and researching it’s even less expensive than Mexico and a beautiful country. Check out CZcams videos by a couple from Britain. Search Mick and Trudie.
People have said it has a good nightlife for those who like to party.
I'm in the exact same boat. The hell with Mexico. Who wants to live where they're not wanted or welcome?!
@@user-tm1oy6ck4t not me!
@@user-tm1oy6ck4t Nobody said you are not welcome. Mexico is using a law that passed in 2016 using the La Unidad de Medida y Actualizacion (UMA). The daily minimum wage increased in Jan 2022. That is the formula for solvency in deciding the requirements. It is perfectly legal. I know nobody likes it, me included but that is the way it is for now. Mexico could change it, so stay tuned.
I like Turkey, but to be fair, my wife is from Turkey and she has some real estate there where I can hang out. Still I won't permanently leave the US.
Thank you for all the good info! Very helpful!😊
Thanks for the info Jordan!
There is a MEXICAN EMBASSY IN TEXAS THAT ONLY REQUIRE $1735, NOT ALL EMBASSIES ARE CREATED EQUAL WHEN IT COMES TO REQUIREMENT TO RETIRE IN MEXICO, THE NAME IS 'MCALLEN, TEXAS
Georgia? I don't know it's too close to Russia it could be a next target to get hit by Putin.
Wow, great info Jordan!👍 Thanks!
Thank you so much Jordan for this info!!!
At least in the Baja (Tijuana/Rosarito) area, the cost of living is skyrocketing. Many local Mexicans cannot afford to rent in dollars. In many ex-pat areas, I think similar situations may be happening. The real east and cost of living expenses are going up. It is good that Mexico is growing economically, but to say or think that Mexico is a cheap place to live is not always true. Perhaps that is why they are increasing the income requirements. Here is a tip, try to have your own little business (food, service, something unique). It is so much cheaper to do business in Mexico or other Latin American countries than in the U.S.
At this point, our two enterprises explorers have been in Mexico long enough to visit some cities at least twice if not more. My question to them is, even if you’ve decided Mexico is your home (at least for the foreseeable future), have you ever considered traveling to other Central & South American countries, whether it be just for trips, or to possibly consider another home after Mexico? I mean, you do Vegas, so it’s not like this channel needs to be JUST Mexico 😄
@@rincon-cito We live in Mexico because we want to live here. Everywhere we've gone we have gotten a lot of views: Mexico, Spain, Peru, United States, Canada. It isn't clicks that's keeping us in Mexico.
Absolutely, Carlos! I'd love to do some more videos in other countries!
@Octavio Rincón JAR8 I have clicked on all their videos regardless of country. Peru was a favorite
I really like your "new" Tangerine Travels...such as this one that was extremely helpful and inspiring regarding living and working in some other countries. Also, I am really impressed by the music that you have in the background. If you ask me, you are doing extremely well and I support you to the max! And I like you kept "GONG that bell!"
Great video. Will be exploring these options as we are on path to be more nomadic in 2.5 years.
We tried Mexico only ended up in Portugal and very happy we did. You're right about the paperwork and the cost of alcohol. It's shocking how inexpensive beer and wine is. Plus there's lots of healthy fruits and vegetables available at an incredible price all year long. You forgot to mention that Portugal is also offering digital nomads incredible tax rates for 10 years...so a great way to build and save wealth. Not as tropical as Mexico and probably not as flavourful when it comes to food...only an incredibly safe country with friendly people and no freezing winters!
Very true Portugal is one of the best places for Crypto investing / trading as well.
I had the pleasure of going to Portugal in 19 and fell in love with this beautiful humble country and people. We went to Lisbon, Porto and Lagos and yeah we were surprised on how affordable it is. It is more of a socialist country which explains the bureaucracy.
Jordan, very interesting and informative, but you need to improve on your geographic knowledge... Georgia is not in Eastern Europe, rather it is in Asia. Portugal sounds interesting, but I'm not sure that I could master basic Portuguese as I find the language much more difficult than Spanish and I haven't learned enough Spanish yet. Though, I like the idea of having access to the whole EU. Jordan, keep up the great content.
I keep hearing tons of buzz about Portugal. When I start hearing everyone on social media talking about it, that only means the cost of living will skyrocket soon as people start flooding in from expensive countries trying to find a cheap place with a high quality of life.
@@rainbowsquash673 We went in the fall and had nothing but straight sunshine except one day.
This info is NOT ACCURATE about Mexico.. Many states in Mexico are currently allowing long term visas for 'regularization', or humanitarian reasons for at least 4 years WITHOUT showing income. JUST did this a few weeks ago. You pay about $800-$1000 flat fee, varies by state and timing. PEOPLE ARE RECEIVING VISAS HERE LEFT AND RIGHT though laws change by the day. Each state has different laws. MEXICO IS WELCOMING PEOPLE SO PLEASE CHECK LOCAL LAWS AND CONSULT AN ATTORNEY rather than just an expat traveler's info.
With all due respect, a lot of good info on this site but not true about Mexico right now.
This is great! Thanks so much Jordan…
This was such a helpful piece of content - learned a lot and have some great alternatives to think about it!
Jordan-when i met you on las vegas Blvd between wynn and encore. I regretted not taking a pic, but as I was snapping the hotels I got a great pic with you filming before I even walked up to you. It took me a month to realize it was you so that's funny.
MEXICO changed its migration rules due to the massive wave of south American immigrants mostly from Venezuela and Argentina. It applies to everyone not only expats I guess .
Also from Colombia
Great video, Jordan! So informative!
Very helpful and interesting topic. Thanks for all your effort.
Mexico has lost a boatload of revenue since Covid began and they're looking for ways to make it up. Just yesterday my girlfriend and I were stopped at the Tijuana border crossing and fined $454 (9,000 pesos) for "importing" more than $300 worth of goods. This was basically our luggage and a couple of "must have" small kitchen appliances our rental doesn't include. While waiting to pay the fine (there is no appeal), I noticed that only newer, more expensive cars with US plates were being stopped.
Somebody needs to tell them that they're killing the Golden Goose.
We’ve tried. They just don’t listen. Mexican government, I meant.
Next time bring it without the tags of price or that looks new, sorry about your situation
Im so sorry to hear of your unfair penalty. In the future when entering Mexico make sure your items are NOT in the original box. Maybe in a plastic bag or in nothing is best. That "importing goods" is to prevent resale in Mexico. Appliances in Mexico are more expensive than in the US. Also to prove that they are used or are not going to be resold it is always advisable to put large stickers on the items. Stickers like maybe your favorite sports team, music groups..stuff like that. Apply a few on each item. I agree your observation of the expensive cars from the US being pulled over. One thing I did want to say is Mexico was one of very few countries open during COVID. People flocked to Mexico from all over the world. Lots of people coordinated with family/friends to meet in Mexico the entire time that the rest of the world was on lock down. How do I know?? Im a flight attendant and we tripled our flights during COVID to Mexico and still do...all over Mexico. There might have been some tourism lost but not in a huge way.
@@kellyname5733 I can't speak to overall tourism, but the hotels in Puebla (May '20), Oaxaca (September '20), Puerto Escondidio (January '21) and Puerta Vallarta (June '21) were mostly empty. Okay, June is low season for PV, so that made sense.
I will definitely take your advice about the packaging. I always keep original boxes for transporting, but in hindsight, it gave them an excuse. Next time I'll drive my ratty old Jeep and not bring my girlfriend's frikken Keurig. It's MÉXICO after all!
@@Jeffhowardmeade Kelly has no clue. Anyone watching videos of Mexico in 2020 saw the EMPTY hotels and shuttered vacation spots that you mentioned.. Well except Kelly the know it all. LOL
It’s most likely do to the “low income” expats that move to Mexico and raise the cost of living for the everyday Mexican in those popular regions, a person with higher wealth won’t affect the everyday Mexican, they’ll but property up that’s to expensive for lower or even middle class Mexicans. An unfortunate side effect for the lovely people from the Us living there, is they’ll no longer be able to reside in Mexico.
You mean *"* lovely *"* people?
Rael that might not be the case for those who already have a temporary visa or permanent visa or who are in the process. of obtaining citizenship. Nowhere is it written that the people already living in Mexico will be held to the new requirements. They might be grand fathered in.
Hmmmmm, this comments seems like it could be true/rational, but it also might not be. I'm not convinced. Dividing a country or a population into extremely wealthy and extremely poor with no middle class has historically NOT been a recipe for lasting peace and prosperity.
This is very generous of you to offer all this info! Very exciting options as well. I am in Portugal right now and you are right, it is super affordable. The other places you mention sound pretty enticing too. Thank you so much!
The quality of your videos has definatly improved, background music, a little too often, but
Very professional presentation.
Thank you
Thank you for mentioning Belize!!! Wife and i have been looking into Belize instead of Mexico.
I checked out Ecuador in 2014 but it’s not safe. Crime rate is high. My friend has to carry a loaded pistol in her purse and pulls it out on thieves about once a year.
it really depends on the city. Theft is big in Guayaquil, especially, if you are wearing jewelry or holding your $1,000 phone for all to see. Other cities like Cuenca are very safe.
We are foreigners with permanent residency living in Mexico and paying all taxes here. Mexico is cracking down because most of these foreigners are just permatourists driving the costs for the locals up, yet not paying any taxes here, or contributing to society. I know this firsthand, this happens in Codesa/Roma in CDMX in excess, hence we agree that it was time Mexican GOVT put an end to this. If you want to live in another country: pay your taxes there, learn the language and culture, and contribute to society. If not, just stay in USA.
Did you not see in twitter last week the backlash that US woman got for suggesting people move to Mexico.
Yeah, I'm going through the residency process right now. It's a hassle, but their country, their rules.
Yes, there is a reason why these requirements are in place.
Actually, tourists do pay taxes. Tourist visas $25. Then the hotel taxes and hidden sales taxes etc. You can say they are driving up costs but they are also contributing to the local economy. I have my permanente too, but I don’t resent the people on tourist visas. I think you are only focusing on the negative.
It’s hilariously ironic though that if you’re an American and you say the same thing about illegal Mexicans, you’re considered racist
your amount for retirement visa in Ecuador is incorrect, it had been 400.00 per month until they raised the minimum wage to 425.00. and in last month or so the retirement visa requirements was raised to 1275.00 per month, or 3 times the minimum wage.
One of your best Jordan thank you. As a Canadian who needs to make his Pension go as far as possible, Canada's cost of living increases could see a lot of Pensioners becoming homeless even though they may be making $1800. per month. The possibility of being able to have a far better standard of living simply by choosing s different location is just what many of us need. Very useful information.
If it's the cost of living that excites you, try Kabul! Afghanistan has lots of land and the food is dirt cheap. LOLOLOL
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Seriously?
Seriously, so why are Muslims people escaping from that place?
@@saraswatkin9226 They don't have $$ 4 food. But that shouldn't be your problem with the American dollar. Besides this was humor, perhaps instead of being confrontational, you should mellow out.
Love this video, Jordan. Would never have guessed Portugal or Georgia was that inexpensive for residency!
You only need a $1000 a month pension + $250 for your spouse to get the Pensionado visa in Panama! Plus you get a lot of discounts like 25% off airfare to anywhere in the world, 25% off utility bills, 50% off entertainment like a movie (only $2), 20% off at restaurants, and more!!
I really want to visit Mexico. I have not been there. I want to visit Mexico City, Teotihuacan, and Oaxaca. I just want to feel a bit safe when travelling and meet genuine/friendly people.
I was hoping to retire in Mexico but this changes everything, I guess I better start looking for other options.
Another triumphant video, Jordan. Thanks!
Love the Info, Thanks!
Great alternatives! Thank you for sharing and breaking down the requirements Jordan 🤗
Question, doesn’t Portugal require that you open a bank account there and if so do you know what is the minimum deposit?
Thanks for the information!
I really love the direction you have taken your channel. So much valuable substance and so easy to remember.
Thanks for sharing the video Jordan. I had plans to retire in Mexico but had to cancel due to the new Mexican visa requirements. I'll start looking into the places you mentioned in this video. I miss the videos when you and Maddie were together. I completely respect the reasoning of the break up and glad you two are staying friends. I once was a subscriber and if you find a way to branch the channel into separate ones I'll resubscribe to yours. Her videos are nice but not for me with all due respect to her. Until then I just type in Tangerine Tavels to see who's video was posted. Thanks again for the videos.
Thanks for reconsidering. Sometimes it is best that life takes people to new place and new cultures. Visa requirements are really strict everywhere yet some have more open and easier access. Nothing in life can come easy.
I would not go to Ecuador or Panama. Nothing like Mexico. So sad that Mexico has changed the requirements.
Living in Mexico is like living in the US but a helluva lot more corrupt and just as boring. Just my personal opinion.
Great info. Informative , complete and enticing! Thanks!
I love your videos as a Mexican living in Costa Rica and sometimes in Ajijic 😎✌️, keep it up!
Malaysia was at the top of my list but they raised their requirements as well, even higher.
What are their requirements like now?
@@TangerineTravels Basically restricting to top earners, 10k a month offshore income and you must deposit 250k into a Malaysian bank. Now it is still a great option for slow travel but not to live for most people.
@@froggerc625 Oof, yeah that's steep
@@TangerineTravels I think the viable alternative is the Sarawak (West Malaysia) MM2H program, for 50+ it requires a ~75K deposit into a Malaysian bank account or a ~$1800/$2500 monthly pension for single/couples.
@@TangerineTravels us$ 10.000/monthly revenue
Mexico is still in my sights. Is that your terrace in background? How about a little tour of the place? What city? What neighborhood? Gracias Jordon.
It is. It's in Querétaro but I'm not sure yet if I want to share any more than that.
This video was everything I was looking for in the informational video about living in another country. Thank you 🤜🌟🤛
GREAT video. Extremely informational. Nice work! Thank you so much for this.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Jordan and greetings from Edmonton, Alberta. As you are probably aware, there is also 12-month minimum savings /investments financial qualification for temporal residency now $45,000.00 US ( $57, 273.00 CDN.) I looked into it last year and yes, it has gone up since then.
How does that work ? Could you provide more details ?
@@adama365 Google Mexico Residency Requirements
Great information. Thanks
Obtaining Portugal residency was really quite straightforward. True the bureaucracy is a bit overwhelming at times, nothing gets done in a hurry here, but well worth it to live in this paradise. 😎
This was super informative. Thanks so much!