Mayor Mayor On The Wall | NRB Play Blood On The Clocktower
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The Riot was interesting.
I am convinced that if Carly is not in the game, Adam is Public Enemy Number One, LOL
LAURIE IS NRB
I love Brooke’s one-liners so much. “I’m unsullied… but in the real world I’m very Sullied” 😂
666th like, god save me... and you mate.
@@AgaCaravaggio Wow another 2024 traveler wkkwk
Jon’s social reads seem to either be so accurate it’s like he can read souls and other times so inaccurate it’s like he’s never met a person. I love it.
This is so true lmao. Either he has the demon figured out from the beginning as a wild social read, or he distrusts people for seemingly no reason. It's so fun to watch but I bet it's really nerve-wracking being the target of his suspicion lol.
president of werewolf
Usually wrong whenever Carly is involved. She has gaslighted him so many times
It seems to me that he's really bad at reading people but he thinks he's great at it. So if he happens to be right he looks like a genius because he has the right read and never wavers. But more often than not he's wrong.
His logic in this one really made absolutely no sense too. Adam as a demon would be given 3 bluffs, so why on earth would he double claim soldier? Then Jon switched to saying he was a spy, which would mean he was a freaking spy that knew that Dom was the solider and claimed soldier to DOM! Then he refuses to even trust his info because he's so damn sure of his read for a really goofy illogical reason.
I've never seen a game where Jon wasn't being gaslit by everyone, or being completely off mark.
We all love Tom, but Laurie absolutely does not get enough credit for all the fabulous narrations, poems and songs he's provided for both NRB and Parts Funknown
He's good but I love in game Laurie due to his unbridled rage whenever he's killed early on.
I am so impressed by Brooke’s pivot at 1:27:30. After hard-claiming that she is the Mayor to Dom, she gets in a conversation with Sully. And Sully reveals that he is the actual Mayor.
I’ve seen that situation play out before, and the evil player often panics, sticks with their double-claim, and claims it back to the other person. This 100% pins down one of them as evil, and is a really bad thing for team evil.
Instead, Brooke seamlessly switches gears, claims one of the few unclaimed Townsfolk roles, and even comes up with an justification for why she lied to Dom. Awesome.
Well worded and just one of many reasons we love Brooke. Sometimes she’s the quirky ginger we know and love, sometimes she’s a genuinely calculated and clever evil player, and sometimes she’s making people play Hot Bucket, Cold Bucket 😂
Holly is such a great exemplar on how to play evil in these games: claim early, claim confidently, and claim often. Put yourself out there to someone good asap so they'll mentally slot you into your claim as a "probably" (claims in social deduction games are very "first come, first served"). Claim confidently by insisting on your info, even if it's wrong. Include the caveat that drunk or poison is on the table, but prod and push the people that you would have done if this info were real. Claim often, reminding people of your claim and updating the townsfolk you'd previously let into your "info" on what your new "info" is. Again, if it's proven wrong, you can always fret that you were poisoned, so it's better to get misinfo out there than to keep mum.
Thanks for the script!
A lot of the Evil team's endgame losses that ive watched seem to hinge on giving up the misinformation campaign. So what you say makes a lot of sense
Even if youve been cornered, its always best to toss out a couple more world views, and Holly did that masterfully
Notably, this works IRL too.
Holly is _incredible._ They had her! I thought there was no chance she could get out of that last nomination, and yet she did it - so incredibly impressive. Her last game was good, but this one just sold me, I'm a Holly stan now.
Sully also played really stupidly, he could've just said "Im either the mayor or demon, so killing me wins for the good team either way"
@@its-aydonus6842 no? unless im misunderstanding something, killing sully would have lost the game for good...
@@entitree. mixed up the ability activation, I thought the mayor had to be executed, not no-one has to be executed. You are correct
@@its-aydonus6842 that's alright, easy mistake :)
I can't believe she got away with it.
bravo to Holly, that last sequence was insane. good almost made it back relying on passivity again, but there were so many mistakes early on on the good side that even bad side not talking to each other until day 2 didn't really matter much.
I think it really came down to Ken's inexperience with the game. He played a really good game for his first time, but I don't think an experienced player wouldn't have been pushed into that nomination. That said, it was really the only play she had and she had the guts to go with it and then not vote.
Agreed, the ending was only possible due to his lack of experience which was a shame. That said, the good team were pretty poor throughout, so it was the right result.
@@munboy i could say the early game issues were contributed in part by Ken. but the ending choice of noms was called out by Ken himself and he just cracked under the "why is evil going for Mayor win?" argument that everyone was worried about. at that point it's not a matter of exp but whether you believe Sully is the Mayor and not drunk and evil is just bluffing. i can absolutely see more of the players getting baited if they were in the hot seat between the Mayor and the Demon.
The final words to escape the lips: "oh no, that's quite alright" - Laurie on Luke's murder. I lol'd even if no one else did
Holly managed to convince a sober man he was drunk, a healthy man he was poisoned.
Absolutely crushed them.
She could probably sell refrigerators above the arctic circle.
This a testament for people that critique TB as being a boring script. Wow. That final day play by Holly was the most ballsy play I've seen in TB.
Agreed. I'll choose Trouble Brewing over some crazy custom script any day.
@@jorisweyen7934
on the other hand, No Roles Barred is incredible.
It really all comes down to the players
@@McBehrer i won't lie I'm not a huge fan of the NRB script. It was very appealing at first and I was really excited for it, and yes, it certainly has some very cool roles thar play off of each other well, however I ended up really disliking the fact that for all of the NRB games, the storytellers were deciding who to kill. Not only did i personally just find it uninteresting (since the storyteller's were mostly picking kills that are the most balanced), but it also led to a lot of controversy, and has players thinking too much about the meta. I don't like how much of a say the storytellers had in those games, and you can see from the videos where they played it that there was definitely a feeling of pointlessness because at the end of the day the victory felt like it was just a coin flip on the storyteller's behalf.
that's just my personal feeling though and if others think otherwise then i think that's brilliant
@@entitree. That may be so when thinking in this game one can only win or lose.
The NRB team, specifically Ben and Tom have said "If the players are having fun, then we're winning".
NRB script was made for maximizing deceit and uncertainty, which would be basically impossible to replicate in person. The way the storytellers handle Lil' Monsta and Legion games aren't to make either team win by chance, but to keep that uncertainty going while giving people a chance to win.
In the three games before this Carley won by finding her Huntsman as a Damsel, turning into a Snake Charmer and picking the Lil' Monsta by a roll of the dice, then bluffing until the end; The Legion was so ingrained in the group that the good players needed a leap of faith, disregarding logic, to win; Blair had to make a hail-mary play to choose the Lil' Monsta in a 50/50 between a person who was outed early on and a Huntsman who still convinced people of it being a Vortox game.
I have never felt it was "a coin flip on the storytellers' behalf".
@@entitree.All of them? There are only very specific scenarios where the storytellers can choose who dies, and those exist for ALL clocktower games. They're not NRB specific by any stretch.
Also incidentally I love TB because all the different role combinations means it doesn't actually "get old" very quickly. Just when you think you've solved the meta, someone else who's also solved the meta came up with a counter for your solve.
There are some roles I really dislike in clocktower (the Twins the most because as we've often seen here, they're the "congrats you two aren't allowed to play the game" role and that applies to the awful Amnesiac role to a lesser extent too, but for personal reasons I'm also opposed to the Savant and the Mutant). But clocktower has like over 200 roles so it's never impacted me too negatively.
TL;DR What is a "NRB script" if not a clocktower script? They aren't using anything that isn't official material, even among the experimental and fabled roles...
The fact that Adam was a spent Slayer and suspected Demon and never got executed is still the weirdest part of this game, even with Raven info it made perfect sense to execute Adam when there is conflicting data.
That's why when there's an Undertaker on the script you execute every day. Doesn't need to be a Vortox script, executions are a controlled way to eliminate possibilities, gather information (and even poisoned, drunk and evil info are all still info) and a potential way to take out undiscovered minions who bluff their way into being killable.
I have never been as stressed in a game of Blood on the Clocktower in my life as I was in this game, and I wasn't even playing. Massive bravo to Holly, that final mayor play was unreal. So so good.
Also it's lovely to be back with Trouble Brewing again, feels like welcoming back an old friend. Here's to more No Rolls Barred On The Clocktower!
Oh my gosh, good botched this game so hard, but Holly was phenomenal. Luke did a great job supporting her with public world-building and false info without looking obviously on her side, and Brooke essentially got good to waste a day thinking about the Virgin thing. I think the communication wasn't fully there, but evil still kept good sidetracked and avoided any obvious voting patterns. They played a very delicate, cerebral game, and ran with good's wishy-washy attitude. Well done, very deserved win.
Minions did very well considering they got no help from their demon really lol
Why is the top comment a spoiler with
Agreed. Pete pretty much hit a jackpot the first night, he shouldve just told Adam to shoot Holly, as it's a 100% guaranteed demon outing provided he wasn't poisoned.
@@DeathEatsCurry No? Adam was the red herring, it wouldn't have outed anything from Pete's point of view.
Sully almost killed Holly and won the game. Adam plays this game like an Outsider no matter what role he gets. 😂
what does it mean to "play as an outsider"? i don't quite get it, isn't an outsider is just a kind of a character and it basically doesn't mean anything substential?
@@barbrr Outsiders cause problems for their own team.
Daddy Ben: “Let’s see how much they’ve learned since starting playing over 18 months ago…”
Holly: “Does anyone want to claim Baron?”
🤣
Holly, that was such a wild play. I am just in awe. Killing your minion, not voting to execute, making everyone doubt everything…legendary
"I'm very sullied." This has to be the best pun I've ever heard on NRB. Joke of the Day? No, Joke of the Month.
the number of times the demon has been up for execution only for adam to interject w “let’s play it safe”, making the good team lose, is insane
ugh yh its so annoying. he keeps on talking the town down from very correct nominations :l
so many videos that would have ended in 10 minutes ...
He's gone now so not a problem anymore
The conviction with which he is so frequently wrong...
1:46:05 "... who in real life is actually VERY sullied" I choked on my coffee on that line!!! 😃
Best line
🥳Joke of the Day! 🥳
I will never get over the size of Holly's balls in that end sequence urging on a Mayor ending which she knows will be her downfall in the hopes someone else will stop it... and they did! What a play
Holly really was the MVP here! She eliminated all of the info-getting roles (save for the Chef) and managed to keep her cool on the final day. Great game!
But even then it help her in the end! If it were me I would be really suspicious as to why a chef who was already share their info (really late when they were asking for ir over and over again) would be alive so late in the game.
BOTC is a team game, but the most satisfying evil wins come from Demons who are their own MVP
Spoiler tag please buddy. I didn’t look at the comments until the end but I feel like this could ruin it for someone.
@@CEJRAID Honestly, why would anyone scroll comments before watching? If they don't want to know, don't look. People are going to talk about it.
Adam as the useful idiot.
"I don't think we should execute good players even when their powers are spent."
Then goes after good players.
Great job Blair for fostering all those kittens. We need to look out for our 4 legged friends.
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Holly and just the whole evil team played it absolutely perfect on that last day when Holly was practically backed into a corner. Holly killing Luke and bluffing as being willing to go for the mayor win to confuse the whole town, goading Ken into being the first one to nominate (Ken even saying exactly Holly's gameplan as he does it), no evil voting for Sully which was crucial in making good - even Sully himself - doubt the mayor win, evil team getting away with all of them and only them voting out Ken (Adam even called it out that the whole evil team voted), and finally Holly clutching the win with such a convincing defense that town - even Adam who's been calling this whole thing - didn't vote for her when it would have been so easy to tie or overpower 3 votes. Bravo to the evil team.
The Good team totally flubbed this. Jon chasing unicorns thinking the entire evil team targeted him on the first turn rather than trusting his info; Blair failing to persuade people to execute and Adam dominating the conversation and sucking all the attention towards himself. Sully was the only player talking sense.
But that being said it was a great video - well done to everyone!
Yeah, Adam should have been executed despite not being the Demon, just to resolve that situation.
Honestly, I don't think good was even necessarily playing all that badly. I think people were mostly making decisions that made sense from their perspectives, even if they ultimately hurt the good team. Evil just played a _really_ stellar game as far as I'm concerned.
@@TheBlueWizzrobe Nah good messed up by refusing to execute until day 3.
I think it's known at this point but I definitely see Sully as a ringer at this point. The biggest reason is he keeps his cool unlike a lot of players, a lot of them become easily flustered at conflicting info and are either too tunnel visioned or start doubting everything
I rarely root for the evil team to win. However, The fact that Ken completely sorted it out but people didn’t believe him, everyone talked themselves into knots so badly Sully thought he was drunk for some reason, and that the final vote for Holly was a complete fiasco made it impossible not to go team evil. 😆
First time catching one of these as they've come out and I'm super excited to watch. I literally binged the entire series over the past week and I've just fallen in love with the game. I can't wait to see more in the future.
Same deal here!!
Same!!!
Should play online :)
Massive, massive respect to Holly on this one. The nerves of fucking *tungsten* it took to stick to her play on the final day are insane.
Love Laurie as storyteller, hope to see more in person clocktower at some point but enjoy both iterations for different reasons.
And he not on the losing team... so you know... technically an improvement I guess.
Probably one of the best and craziest games. Damn Holly pulled it. I lost my head when I realised Holly got it.
I binge-watched this channel (specially the BotC chapters) in the last month and I swear to the elder gods I am so glad I can watch a fresh out-of-the-oven chapter in a day that was going pretty shitty. This cast and channel deserves so much more recognition! Bravo to you all!
Same. I was even hesitant about BotC, since I'm not usually a fan of Werewolf style games (I find, since there's usually very little public information, it can be more frustrating than other social deduction games, since if you're not one of the few players that knows things, it's basically a coin-flip, and too based on social reads; with other social deduction games, you can usually at least play to the odds, even if you don't have verifiable information), but I feel like BotC changes the formula enough that it's enjoyable and quickly became my favorite series on this channel.
@@GroundThing Yeah, it feels like BotC fixes every problem that werewolf has and thus makes for an amazing game
21:08 *"does anyone wanna chat with me 😀🔪"* lol ken's the best
Always nice that Ben isn’t afraid to point out the players blunders, I was yelling at my screen the first half of that game.
What a blinder by Holly at the end, that was nuts!
I was a bit surprised by it as well, but then you do have to remember that the demon bluffs are for the demon, not the whole evil team. The demon can’t always be expected to talk to their minions before they start bluffing to other people, or even to catch up with all minions on the first day, so ultimately it is still information they could find useful.
Honestly Holly even got me. I was screaming why would she be pushing for a Mayor victory. She is so lucky Ken nominated there.
@@Ragan31687 Dude, that wasn't luck. That was brilliant social manipulation. She earned that.
@@pendrag2k Well yes. But even still, that was very close to a Mayor win.
@@Ragan31687 I don't agree but I can completely see why someone might think so. It felt like to me, just as soon as Ken spoke up, she won the game. And it was entirely prompted by her pushing for a mayor win. It was pure brilliance, to me.
As awesome and incredible as the in person episodes are, don’t undersell yourselves for how great the zoom ones are too!! The zooms get the added benefit of hearing more storyteller insight & analysis behind their decisions too :)
The amount of times i jumped between "oh good teaming are abt to win" and " oh evil team are about to win" on that last day holly hell!
*pun intended*
I thought good had it in the bag. They had Ken's vote. All they needed is just 2 of the remaining 4 good votes to vote along with him. And they know there's 3 evils out there, so Pete's case that all the evils voted on Ken had a lot of weight (and was 100% true).
In the world where Ken is the demon who are his minions? And why wouldn't they vote with him? Good really tossed the win away at the last minute. But also huge credit to Holly for giving them the chance to do so.
Everyone is congratulating Holly for her sharp play, and rightly so. But I don't think we should overlook the real MVP of the evil team...
Adam.
When his lie was called out and he was forced into using his slayer ability on day one it wasn't ideal, but at that point the best thing for his own team would be for him to get executed afterwards. But his vehemence that he didn't want to die meant he ended up wasting two days for the good team, throwing the fortune teller under the bus _and_ negating the gravedigger all for the paltry payoff of him staying alive as a spent slayer. The best unwitting minion an imp could have, I reckon. 😂
With his ability spent, he should have willingly died in case there was an undertaker to confirm him (which there was). That added a lot of confusion throughout the game. There was a few people super sus of him for awhile after.
For real. Adam's play really frustrated me in this game... He basically hard claimed soldier to the ACTUAL soldier, then another player had an evil ping on him. Of course he's going to be nominated on the first day, if he had just taken his shot and dealt with the consequences of his bold play the town could have moved on and gotten some undertaker info.
He also WAY overvalued the slayer role, it's really a middling role amongst the TB characters, and it's not even that bad to kill D1. I do think the NRB cast in general value their roles way too highly. I'm not sure a single one of these games has gone by without someone saying some variation of the phrase "I'm telling you who I am, if I die tonight I'll know it was you."
At least Adam came to terms with why Pete was pushing so hard on him when he heard the double confirmation, but still. Kinda tripped up the good team by placing too much emphasis on his life.
P.S. I realize the game is a lot more difficult and subjective when you're actually playing in it, and I really love watching them play. Just a bit disappointed as an observer.
@@Chlios1187 Definitely. And when called out on strongly implying that he was the soldier, he denied that he was strongly implying that, which just looked worse.
I don’t think it’s a good characterization of what happened at all. I would rather criticize Dom for not understanding why a Slayer would bluff as a Soldier. Granted good players bluffing is not commonplace in NRB, but still.
Dom is also, along with Blair, the one who did use his ghost vote at all and ultimately lost the good team the game.
This game is so much proof that Trouble Brewing is easy to learn, difficult to master! Together with the Patreon-exclusive game that dropped at the same time, thank you for spoiling us with 5 wonderful hours of content
I don't know how you manage it, but the NRB BOTC games seem to get better with every episode. Genuinely fantastic play at the end, and a well deserved win. Poor Sully was a broken man by the end!
This was Carley's level of pro-plays for the evil team. Although, there's also a lot of fault to the Good team here. For the first half of the game they hung on the whole "Adam is evil" speech between each other and the Evil team just had to sit there and create scenarios around it. Creating a consistent opening for dissention and letting the Evil team run rampant.
To be fair evil did make a mistake that almost costs them the game: on day 5 i believe when there was 4 players alive, if holly's execution would've gone through, luke would've killed ken and win then
@@emisor9272 Scarlet woman can only become demon when there's 5 or more players alive, so Luke couldn't be passed to by execution at that point.
14:50 Laurie:"This could either be a very quick finding of the actual Imp..."
*checks the runtime* Me: "Nope."
Dom: "I think you're okay, unless I'm drunk or poisoned."
[...to the Poisoner that picked him last night.]
Fantastic episode. Great to see that Holly has some big brains to complement her chaotic play.
Wow what a game! I did notice that Holly could have won at the end of the final four vote. All three of Sully, Ken, and Luke had nominated already, so if Holly nominated Sully and the evil team voted, there was nothing good could do. Obviously there was very little time to think of this so I'm glad Holly ended up clutching it out
It's always a good day when there's more BOTC on NRB! Credit to evil for playing a blinder of a game. Then again, they didn't have to play a blinder since the good team took plenty of target practice on their own feet. Adam's prediction that viewers were screaming at their screens? 100% accurate, as always. :) Also as always, I am delighted to be a Patreon supporter where I get huge entertainment value return on my monthly pledge. Wish I could afford to pledge more, because you all deserve it. Cheers!
Sully's visual reaction to something as simple as Laurie setting the scene of the game is why he's our super special boy 🤣
Just want to say a massive thank you to everyone who has ever done these BotC videos. That includes the editor(s) who do absolutely incredible work. I came across these videos due to the in person one being recommended to me randomly, and I have laughed more through binge-watching them (and working my way through the rest of the NRB videos) than I have in a length of time that I care to remember. Thanks for brightening the day of this guy with mental health problems.
Seriously; thanks.
Love Laurie as storyteller, his spooky narration is great and he’s good at banter without disrupting the flow of play.
I was JUST binging the clocktower series after being brave and jumping into my first online game last night, and then this popped up! Can't wait to see what shenanigans lay within! :P
How did your game go. I’d love to give it a go but I’m not brave enough yet. Haha
Where do you play online? I want in.
I know regulars from Ben's main channel run games all the time over discord.
I always ALWAYS skip an ad read or sponsorship kinda deal on youtube videos but even though i am already a patreon i was not going to skip that sweet sweet Laurie voice telling me all about it. Laurie you did so well as a story teller, love these BOTC videos so much!!!
Poor Sullivan looks so defeated by the end of the video, I feel bad he didn't get his mayor win...
i honestly thought based on the title that it would happen....... and then it didn't. honestly kinda bummed right now
I, for one, appreciate that the ending wasn't spoiled by the title.
Poor Sullivan? He could’ve gotten his mayor win if he’d voted for it.
It's his own fault. The chances of being the Drunk are very low, and the nonsensical demon kills suggest a NON-drunk mayor.
I'm convinced they were going to vote Holly in that final bit until Luke piped up. Best play I've seen him make. The whole evil team were outstanding here.
Holly has nerves of Steel. What a chaotic last day. Credit to Luke as well he pushed the Saint narrative so well that Sully started questioning his own role. One of the most gripping episodes . We need another Holly Carley showdown
Ever since these NRB Blood on the Clocktower came out, I’ve been utterly obsessed with watching any gameplay streams I can find. Amazing game!
In that time, especially from these episodes, I’ve come to the conclusion that it always seems to be best to trust your info first as opposed to immediately assuming droisened and get people on the block during the day to rule things out. The second guessing really hinders good (poor Jon 😢). Im one of those people always rooting for good because I love to see them solve. Great stuff !
I've seen that too. Jon (among others) always assumes he's drunk. There's only sometimes a drunk in play, and there's only sometimes a poisoner in play. And there's only one target of each of those things. A basic understanding of odds says that it's unlikely your info is bad, but some people seem to just look at it as something like "I could either be drunk / poisoned or not, so therefore it's 50/50".
Especially early game info when a poisoner wouldn't know to target you. It's just so unlikely that it's not good info ...
Evil played a blinder, Good had a mare at the start, and Adam on the good team has a pattern of convincing the team to continue the game to the next day when they have the Demon cornered. Evil deserved this win.
Holly's last day was inspirational
Garnet is the true MVP of the game.
Absolutely brilliantly played. I was up far too late watching this and was on the edge of my seat until the very end. As someone who initially thought "Trouble Brewing" could reach a "solved state" with experienced players this playthru completely proved me wrong. Well done.
@@TheLastSane1 I don't blame Pete at all. His info screamed that Adam could be the demon. Dom and especially Jon were being silly though (Jon's own info cleared him and he refused to believe it!!!)
They basically just seemed 100% convinced that the only reason Adam would lie about a soldier claim is if he was evil, which is clearly untrue. In fact a demon or spy would NEVER do have to do that since they had bluffs, yet they kept pushing the case.
This is exactly what I needed, I am ill at the moment and I needed to occupy my mind with something else. What an episode, what an endgame! A BIG thank you to all participants! love the content of this channel.
Sully’s face during Laurie’s opening monologue. I’ve never seen eyebrows rise that many times.
Wow, Luke did Really well going to bat for Holly on the penultimate night. He was able to seem somewhat trustworthy so that nobody nominates him on the final day.
He did good playing the fool.
Good Job Luke.
So happy to see this series come back, probably my favorite in the channel
These games are so frustrating to watch but so fun at the same time.
Agreed, cause they are inherently unfair. I love social deduction games but I'd rather watch this one than play it. I'd feel cheated.
@@EzFlyers10 Exactly. I'm only watching and I already feel cheated because the side I'm rooting for tends to lose these last few games 😅 Mayhaps I am a little too invested
How did good team not win this?? Even at the end it sounded like everyone was on the same page and then somehow it was dropped. It wasn't pretty but it was damn interesting, great work as always!
Ken Misunderstood the rules at the end so last second stopped the mayor win. Not sure if that makes Holly lucky or she pulled they biggest big brain Player ever off
@@chickenpanda1179 but it still seemed like everyone was on the right track and then there was a cut and it seemed like we maybe missed some extra deliberation. Still a great episode
Can Laurie host an atheist game, so he can finally win one and shove it in everyone's faces?
This is a brilliant idea. Except Atheists should basically never win. But it is equally as funny to have him lose even when he isn't a player
Oh make Jon the atheist and Laurie/Ben the st, Jon actually having to convince everyone that this time Ben IS out to get him.
@@akadam90 I think this is the play, Jon being in that position would be absolutely perfect, and not doing an Atheist game at least once would be kind of like not doing a Legion game, a missed opportunity
Since the storyteller can break the rules in an atheist game Ben doesn't even have to claim it's random to Jon or Laurie.
Once again Adam leads the team by snatching away the victory and promptly throwing it to the jaws of defeat. Seriously, he has done this so much that in the way “oh Carly is evil” is a joke if I played I would be like “Right so whatever Adam says, let’s do the opposite”
Again I know I see the whole board, perhaps I try to just play as Adam when he is good and I don’t know everyone else and it will make sense but so many times he says something and I go “wait…what? No”
It's become a game within a game for me, watching for the moments when Adam destroys his team. You can see the "trouble brewing" in Adam's face as he sits and ponders the unlikeliest (if just barely possible) scenarios, just as the rest of his team sits on the precipice of victory. Then his face lights up in fear and revelation, his mouth opens silently, and I know it's coming. He's about to pull a U-turn.
I think it's because people are super scared of being on the receiving end of some "big brain play" that they try to find the most convoluted possibilities instead of what's most likely, most obvious, staring them in the face. Adam particularly is intelligent enough to find those convoluted scenarios, but he lacks Carley's ability to self-edit for common sense/Occam's razor. Also, he's driven to be the hero, so he's always gonna fidget when someone else tries their own bold play, and look for ways to undermine it, so he can be the guy. Even if that means taking yet another L.
@@gordonshumway3514 100%. They are so afraid to act on bad info based off what the evil team may have that they don’t do anything and then put themselves in this position where the evil team just runs away with it, while instead even if all the negatives were true, if they still went forward on it, there would be some sort of positive from someone else.
Pete blundered day one so hard by not trying to influence Adam to shoot Holly. He knows one is Deamon and if it is a misfire it confirms it's Adam, and when Holly dies and the game continues it confirms Scarlet Woman is in the game. Regardless It is the most powerful move he will ever have.
Damn, that's a good point. I didn't think about it, but yeah, that would've been a great play.
I did think he played the game the best for the good side in the end though.
Here is a scenario that neither of these situations are true, granted the game might play out a bit different than it did:
One of the two is a Red Herring and the other is not the Demon
His Fortune Telling would have still given him a yes, Adam’s supposed Slaying would have failed, and Adam would not be the supposed Demon
I think is due to situations like that the Red Herring exists
@@kytsunix1654 Even if that's true, it's something to test as opposed to just shooting Sully randomly.
@@TheFinalChapters oh, I’m not saying it wouldn’t be a better option, just that it wouldn’t necessarily give a guaranteed answer
@@kytsunix1654 Of course not, from their perspective.
But it would have won good the game in reality.
Super happy this series is still going!
dom is on the money so often and no one listens bc they think he's evil!! 😭
NRB must become a full-time kitten channel. The kittens demand it.
Holy moley. Adam set the town up to fail so badly, and then town didn't execute him so his early mistakes became the centre of the town for multiple days. If they'd have just killed him they'd have got Blair in play AND got Adam out the way. And then even from beyond the grave he talked everyone out of executing Holly on the second to last day. I love this game and the balance of the teams does not affect my enjoyment of this channel, and I don't want this to come across as hating the video, we all have bad games sometimes. Cool to see the series continue
Yeah, Adam and Jon make wrong reads as often as anyone else in the game but they are so self sure and push so hard it often ends up eating up all the conversation space.
@@arandombard1197 it wasn't for no reason, Adam was claiming he was good to be attacked when he wasn't, to someone who he knows is an aggressive player (and if your play doesn't suit the people you play with that's a flaw in social deduction play), and then when on the block on day 1 he begged for the vote to be tied,and then he used his power anyway. There were so many times to fix it. He could've died and got out the way, that only happened because he begged over and over to be spared. With Blair out of commission (largely due to Adams play), he got two key info gathering roles fixated on himself instead of doing anything. That's how you get to the end of the game, and have no idea what roles the dead are, if any minions have died, etc.
@1D1-Myke I am fully aware that Adam was purposefully choosing to spread misinformation, without role-swapping to protect someone else or without knowledge of if the bluffed roles were in the game, or without even attempting to find that out. That is part of what I thought was poor :P As far as I can tell, the plan was "I am the slayer, I must live at all costs" when the best the slayer can hope for is a 50/50 shot at the end of the game, which would be nice if it happened, but surely this isn't the way to go about it lol. There are powerful roles who can provide guaranteed sustained use, or have actual reason to disguise who they are, such as fortune teller/empath/ravenkeeper/undertaker, who have far more reason to consider being tricky with their role, if everyone is doing it it's just like evil has more poisoners. Even if I accept all of that as fine play, the correct move once things fell on him should've been to accept the 6 votes and die, not to beg people to tie it, without confirming a role. Holly was the first of town to pick up on tying the vote and not needing to kill because she was the demon, and she knows that executions are how town wins and often how it gathers information and how it removes suspicious people. It did so much work for evil, keeping Adam around and having him draw suspicion, even after Jon confirmed him. If they'd executed him that night, Jon likely would've picked someone else when he died as Ravenkeeper, and town would've been able to talk about something else other than "Adam messed this up but let's not kill him or anyone else".
I wanna be 100% clear, I like Adam, I like the game, I like the channel me liking these things is totally separate from needing it to be 'competitive' or whatever. It just seems really clear to me that the game was lost by one town and I find it surprising that people disagree
@@arandombard1197 you can't simultaneously say "a demon won't double claim" and "it's good to double claim". That makes it, by your own admission, bad play, because a demon wants to hide who they are. Demons want to do things that make them look good. I agree a demon wouldn't want to do it, because they know how evil it makes them look, because it's bad play. But most importantly, they didn't double claim, they made one claim and presented it in a way that looked like buckling under pressure or getting his story mixed up. Even people like Jon and sully who eventually came round said he just projected himself as someone who had been caught in a lie. I find it wild that the first two days centered their discussion on one person, who had a middling power role, because of mistakes they made, and then that person saved the demon at the end by getting them to tie the vote on Holly, and you don't consider that person to be at fault. Idk if you think I'm attacking Adam as a person, I'm not, you can mess up one game horrifically badly and still be a good guy, and he is. It's not a hate comment, it's just a comment of amazement. If you still think it's on every other town member rather than Adam, idk what to tell you, we fundamentally disagree
Spoilers:
OH MY DAYS THE BIG BRASS BALLS ON HOLLY!!!!
There's nothing greater than a poker player getting bluffed into a terrible decision.
Greatest final night. I SCREAMED "LUKE NO!! PUT YOUR HAND DOWN!!!!!" and really thought he screwed it.
I mean, that's the only way to play the Mayor situation on the final day if you're the demon. If you say no let's not do it, everyone thinks you're the demon. So you have to say ok let's do it, and rely on one of the other two players balking because "oh crap the demon is fine with this, something is wrong." Town should almost never Mayor-win in Trouble Brewing for this reason. Mayor still provides some interesting information, but no one should ever actually be willing to go for a Mayor win because it means the demon is okay with it.
@@TheLastSane1 That's fine I guess, but really that's just giving up. A demon should never sit there and let the mayor win. At least make a nomination. The good team never has perfect information.
I could tell Daddy Ben had to put the kids in time out towards the end there 😂. It does get frustrating when there’s talking during people’s defense. It’s their time to explain themselves and other people shouldn’t interrupt with thoughts and strategy during it. I know it’s harder virtually to see everyone and maintains order but I just want to say that Daddy Ben does a great job running these games and I can’t wait to do him proud when my copy gets here.
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Imagine if Ben got so frustrated that he actually invoked Hell's Librarian. 👀
@@kyleb8117 I wish he would with Jon sometimes! 😂
@@Immafuggin182 I've seen it used maybe a few times (in the few hundred games I played) but I actually played with someone online that was the epitome of why you'd use it. I had a game with him where the ST invoked Hell's Librarian during every nominations phase because this guy would stall and monolog and talk over everyone. 😂
It's time for one of the greatest things on the internet. Thank you so much for continuing to post these games, they really are amazing.
Bro. The good team choked that so hard at the end. Lmfao.
Does anyone else see that 50% of the defeat is due to Adam's selfishness.
He held off on claiming to be slayer and then once his power was soe t he still managed to convince others jot to kill him just because he "wanted to be an alive good player because its morr fun"😂
He prevented Brookes power to work due to this and forced the fortune teller to be revealed.
He could have accepted to be executed and undertaker could have proven that he was good
Zero ideas why town isn't just executing the spent slayer with two FT pings on them with an undertaker in game but still lets them be suspicious
What a wonderful game, Holly, how you pulled that out.. Bravo!
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I love that neither of the minions actually did anything with their ability, but evil still managed a win. Kudos to Holly obviously for basically playing a game of chicken on that final day and making Ken break first, but also to Brooke and Luke for having the discipline to not vote on Sully when he was nominated, which I think would’ve cost them the game.
Down to the last fricking second, even.
When your comment is the highlighted top comment and spoils the game before the game even starts....
@@paladin7721 Yikes, sorry for that. I never imagined that my comment would be the top one. I’ve edited it so that no one else will be spoiled.
@@ryoryo9936 thanks for the edit! It's not a big deal, just a small bummer. I'm still enjoying the great content from the NRB crew
@@paladin7721 Just a heads up and I trick I always use, I just do my best to block the first comment (usually with my hand) to not see possible spoilers. Sometimes there's a pin from the channel or a comment from a special guest but you can never be too safe.
What an exceptional game of BotC, kept me on the edge of my seat to see how it was all going to end. Well played to the NRB team once again for another amazing game!
The time has come once again for the best content on CZcams!
I really like how Pete is excited when he plays board game. I would love to see him on board game club !
Ken oozes "Happy to be here" & "Might aswell!" energy. He needs to return for more.
AGREED. would love to see how he plays once he gains more familiarity with the mechanics and gameplay in general. it would be amazing.
@@tisanne spoilers from the future: He's a madlad just like Isaac
@@emisor9272 I really don't like either of them personally - it smacks of not really understanding how the system works, so they just bluff and bluff without keeping track of their own information properly. There's a difference between being chaotic and being disruptive.
14:30 Imagine if Pete just comes out and gives his info then Adam slayed Holly right at the start.
Truly that was the best play for him and I don't really understand why he didn't do it
This was so frustrating given this was an obvious play given all the information on the table with Adam on the block and revealing his role as slayer too! Pete played way too cautiously there as if outing his life is infinitely valuable.
I thought that Holly should have star passed on the penultimate night, the whole town even asked "why are you still alive as an out empath?" She really did a great job pulling herself out of that hole.
She is then leaving Luke to convince them to hang someone and not trust the mayor win.
@@Moleoflands the mayor was unconfirmed at the point I'm talking about and the only one vouching for Sully was a pretty suspicious Adam, the mayor win only really became an option after the mayor bounce to Adam which wouldnt have happened if she had star passed that night.
Luke wasn't without suspicion of his own and its still possible that they lose if Holly does star pass but I dont think they would have been as gungho about a mayor win.
I thought her final kill doomed her. Luke was a super weird kill for almost anyone BUT her. If Sully was the demon he'd kill her or Ken. If Ken was the demon he'd kill her. If she was the demon she'd likely be scared of trying to kill the mayor and Ken had more suspicion on him due to supposedly voting on the virgin. She's the only one that'd actually consider targeting the claimed saint.
Sully at 2:44:25
This game was a wonderful clash between my constant desire to see evil win and my desire to see Sully win.
Holly's last day made no sense until the last seconds. Amazing!
The absolute joy in Laurie's face in 2:44:56 is so relatable.
Great to see the expanding cast!
Great to see a new episode. Hope there will be a community for playing over discord/zoom. Will never get 10 players to do it live.
Check out The Pandemonium Institute (where Ben is from), they have a CZcams and twitch channel and a discord that does online games at all levels!
There are regular games of Blood on the Clocktower on the NRB Discord server, accessible only if you're a subscriber on Patreon! All sorts of levels of players are welcome (like me, who is terrible at the game) and there's usually at least one game every night, often several in a row with people dipping in and out so it's not hard to get involved!
Luke at 1:12:22 "I forgot about the Scarlet Woman..." suggestive eyebrow waggle at the camera...
The start of Day 2 when Jon said Adam was the Slayer and Pete went through a whole range of emotions about how that could be possible and if Jon was lying. It was great
That final day was the wildest hame of chicken
Everyone on the good team, honorary evil this game.
I had to edit this multiple times just to say that.
If pete just came out at the start and said who he was and called out Adam and Holly, adam would have know to target Holly immediately and it would have been the fastest game i have ever seen
I'm normally fine watching them go in the wrong direction because i have all the info and they don't. However, I have no idea why they didn't execute Adam earlier. If Adam was the imp, they would have won. If he was a minion, they would have gotten rid of an evil player. if he was the slayer there would be no harm in his death due to his power having been used, and it would have given sully more proof ha is the mayor. Voting Adam would have also put more pressure on Holly which would ither get her executed the next day leading to a win or have to send the imp away getting rid of a baddy. I've never wanted to be part of one of their games more just because executing Adam only did good. It just felt like the most obvious choice in the world to me. However, like I said I had all the information they didn't, and I think they did a great job despite Adam staying alive so long. So, I wish them all the best in the future games.
It made no sense to accuse him in the first place, and both himself and sully were confirmed good from day 1. Dom was the MVP for the evil team with his entirely pointless crusade against a confirmed ally. The moment Adam said he was the slayer, that should have confirmed that nothing Adam said privately was suspicious, and then using the ability just to pacify the group should then have confirmed Sully as another ally. Pete, his mistakes can be attributed to inexperience or just not really thinking through the math on his ability. With one set of data that says yes, it's only a 1 in 3. With two sets of data that share 1 person both saying yes, it's still only a 50% chance for it to be that one. With a 3rd set of data sharing that 1 person, yes yes yes confirms the 1, yes yes no confirms it's NOT the 1, but is a 50/50 between the others of the first two sets. Then the 4th set of data can be used to confirm or deny one of the two possibilities.
FRICK YESSSSSSSSSS! i finished all previous episodes literally a few days ago after becoming obsessed after watching the live one! it’s made me want to play so bad but i have no friends who are interested 😮💨 guess i’ll just pretend i’m includdd in this
Play online. Check out the BOTC Chanel and they give links to their dischord
No way would Holly have flown that game of chicken on the final day past us on a Wednesday. Loads of fun to watch, thanks!
Adam clutching defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.
One of the best endings so far - amazing :)
honestly love this series it's amazing happy to see another one. been watching loads of them and enjoyed them all