Dorian Mode for Guitar
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- Dorian is the brightest of all the minor scales, and is perfectly outlined by a simple two-chord progression. It's an easy mode to "see" and while its sonic personality is minor, it also has a clear emotional "lift" to it.
00:00 Demonstration
00:50 Thesis
01:11 Introduction
04:41 Lesson
13:16 Wrap Up
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In Memory of Elizabeth Reed, by Dickey Betts and the Allman Brothers is written in the A Dorian mode I understand. In Dickeys memory, I went looking for a lesson and found your video Chris. I can hear the notes to that song throughout! Thank you.
You are so welcome. RIP DB
Great Dorian tut.
Very clear and useful. Thanks, Chris. Looking forward to watching your other mode vids
This is one of my favorite subjects. My modes mastery class still has a few spots available if you’re interested.
Thanks Chris..! Just unlocked the Santana puzzle for me.!! 👍🏼❤️
Beautiful!!
Once again, nicely done.
Thanks!
Brilliant again Chris
Absolutely loved the loop at the start
Wow thanks Dean!
Chris! 😄 I like that vamp❣️
Awesome stuff thank you for a great video
You bet, Jason. Glad you enjoyed this one.
Great to have you back Chris
Yeah that break was great for my mind, but I'm so happy to be back. Thanks for all your support Mark. 🙏
Thanks Chris, for this interesting lesson. You are a great teacher !
Wow thanks for that alkmarck, good to have you here!
Great! explanation! on an often confusing subject. Thanks Chris!
Hey Tone! Glad you like this one!
It's Friday - got my email alert that you had posted a new lesson - yippee!
First 45 seconds of intro... //dies in awe//
Stunning playing!
Thanks again Chris, I have been playing with a little Dorian recently, muddling through... your lesson has made things extra clear! Loved the examples at the end of your lesson too :)
Thanks Joyce, good to be back and glad you enjoyed this one!
Hello, Chris! Watching from Kankakee Illinois. Really enjoying the videos. Most are still over my head, but dammit, I'm trying! I keep playing and practicing and rewatching. No quitting for thos fella.
You got this Dennis. The most important things to really own on the instrument are the major scale and triads. Once you can rely on these structures you can apply ANYTHING else to the guitar with relative ease! Make sure you stay with those concepts until you feel you really own them. Don't allow yourself to get too distracted until that step is complete!
And for the record, the Dorian mode is actually just the major scale played from the second degree (note) and ending on the second degree an octave up. So A Dorian is really just the notes of the G major scale played from A to A.
Well done Chris. Dorian is my favorite as well. Thank you for explaining that it is really a G in the second mode. I knew this from learning bass, but the way you explain it makes it more understandable.
Yeah, something about Dorian is so accessible and yet still has a ton of sonic color.
I've been learning Dorian by playing a major scale but starting on the second note in the major scale (e.g., playing a G major scale, but starting on A for the A Dorian mode). But then I can never break away from hearing the major scale while I'm playing the Dorian mode. The vamping you did is great because I can now hear the sound of the Dorian mode without constantly hearing it as "the major scale started on the 2nd". Hopefully that makes sense. Good stuff, Chris!
Love the context you put around this discussion. There are plenty of videos that explain the 'how' to play dorian. You put the markers on the video for the 'when and why" from a sonic perspective. As always, Chris this is very helpful and thought provoking. As a follow-on sometime, it would be great to explore the options for building licks and phrases beyond just the one position finger. For example, dig in a little deeper to that Van Halen lick and decompose what he did there. (I know you quickly mentioned this in this video.) Thank you.
Hey Robert! Yes indeed, breaking down those phrases is a great idea, it really does shed some light on "how" to think about these scales more musically.
Thanks for the suggestion, adding it to the list!
Loving your channel Chris! Thanks for the explanation of one of my favorite modes, Dorian! My other favorite mode is Mixolidian. Hopefully you will explain this mode soon. Thanks for all your eye opening lessons, well done sir!
Yup! Mixolydian is next!
Thanks for being here midrider335
@@curiousguitarist sweet! Thank you very much, looking forward to it! And you’re very welcome Chris- here’s hoping you’re channel continues to grow, you definitely deserve it!
@@midrider335 thank you!
Wow, man! you know your modes. 👍
Took me a minute, but yeah. I've got a few other Modes videos here too, check 'em out!
I am very glad to see this topic come up Chris! The first time I tried the Dorian Mode (first position) I thought “Hey, that sounds just like Carlos Santana.” I have been experimenting with it ever since. Thanks so much. All the best from NorCal.
You bet Steve! Stay well, and thanks for all your support Steve!
Really nice, showing some chops there too Chris! I’m not sure it was mentioned here, but it was a revalation for me when I learned that A Dorian was Am pentatonic + Bm pentatonic + Em pentatonic (the II, III and VI of G).
Love that context! Thanks for the kudos too Brazilbushrocks!
Thanks for this great video Chris! Could you maybe do one on The Aeolian Mode? Thanks!
Yes, Aeolian is on the list! Thanks Miles!
One of the things I’ve noticed by watching your hands (see 7:27) is how your fingers are right up next to the fret. The inclination for me to center my finger between the frets is really hard to overcome. I also love the Dorian treatment :). But I also always watch your technique. Makes me wish the reference dots on the fretboard were up near the fret as a reminder that the center is not where it’s at.
I love that idea! Move the reference to help cement the context. 🤯
I love it, as usual! Thanks, Chris!
Random bits: Dorian is the sharpest minor mode (of the diatonic), only one with a major 6th.
Often played with 7ths for the sound. ii7 V7 (or i7 IV7 if one prefers).
3nps version from A. S6 F578, S5 F579, S4 F579, S3 F579, S2 F78 10, (S1 F78 10, 12 14 15 17).
Cool, thanks!
@@curiousguitarist Once I learned 3 notes per string plus legato, I went from slow to fast overnight. I knew the heptatonic positions well, but They're slow builds, which has it's own charm.
Can you pop a video on intelligent use of pentatonic major (or link me)? I get the modes and penta minor, but my major penta is rather poo.
Thanks for all that you do!
Modes, Man!
I love ‘em!
As always, great lesson. My favorite "Dorian" progression is (key of B) Bm - A - E/G# (Wicked Game--Chris Isaak)
Love that tune!
Shouldnt that be in the key of A? The second mode of the key of A is B Dorian or I'm getting something wrong?
@@fennarios He's playing A Dorian...the second mode of G Major is A Dorian.
@@QBRX i was replaying to the first comment, he was talking about a "Bm - A - E/G#" chord progression saying that was in the key of Bm, what's the key of G has to do with it?
@@fennarios B Dorian (second mode of the A major scale)
Great one, Chris. Am7 at 6:28, correct? First thing I heard in that vamp was "Too Late Baby" by the great Carole King!
Yup! Am7.
Try this as the 4 chord for Too Late:
D6add9
String/Frets:
A:5
D:4
G:4
B:5
@@curiousguitarist That sounds just right!
👍
I was starting twitch until 8:15 when you said you were actually working out of G major. :) How to create three (or more) chords as a modal progression doesn’t get much air time. Sounded like you were saying that a good Dorian three-chord progression would be a ii-iii-IV out of the home key (in this case Am-Bm-D out of G major)?
That D needs to be a C, but yup!
@@curiousguitarist haha oops. yes. I actually know better. C is the 4th in G. So, in that three-chord A Dorian progression, you played a C instead of D (the two chord vamp was Am to Dmaj). I supposed you could sort of toss in a D chord too (I.e. four chord progression) and still have the same Dorian flavor? Or does that of cause you to drift into a different mode of G?
@@SyntagmaStation it’ll still hold a Dorian sound until you start to lean towards that G. But ultimately the chord progression that works the best is that i - IV (Am - D)
Thought I was going to dip my toes in to modes today. Sort of a part of theory I've continued to neglect as I never just got it immediately and therefore just avoided. Then @8:20 happened. One of those "you're kidding me" moments.......gonna be tripping out on this for a bit.
I love when that happens!
It's almost too much, almost too ....I don't have words that = what I am trying to describe. Trying hard to not overload with these mind-blown-concepts, I can see pretty clearly now how having access to lessons like this in a format like youtube can be a blessing and a curse. Between this lesson, the harmonizing scales lesson, and the drilling triads lesson....I feel like I am standing on a precipice.
@@mountain_girl …leap
@@curiousguitarist yeah man...I don't know (peering suspiciously...) I think I finally understand that the scary jazz-voodoo circle of fifths thing is merely a cool piece of nature-math expressed in a circle like sunflower seeds or a nautilus shell--and simply a tool to practice any scales/arpeggios/triads/any musical grouping....and now i'm thouroughly freaked out....
@@mountain_girl that’s the best time to leap.
I had always thought the Aeolian sat on top of the minor pentatonic scale & (it's relative) major scale? Do all 3 of the minor scales (2nd, 3rd & 6th) sit nicely on top of the minor pentatonic? Thanks for all the content!
Correct! They all do...watch this: czcams.com/video/Y5bN2ddUIQI/video.html
Really good video. Sorry, the move has been rough, then a 26hr round trip on top of it was exhausting. But thank you Chris.
Of course! Glad you're on the other side of all that.
@@curiousguitarist almost. Still a bit to unpack. But yes sir, it's one heck of an adventure
Hey, what’s it called when you pick a key and play each degree as far as it’ll take you in arpeggio form? Modal arpeggios? I know I’m not making that question very clear, but that’s what I’ve been throwing in pretty often.
That sounds right to me...you're using "every other note" and climbing the scale that way?
@@curiousguitarist That’s it. It’s weird, it really doesn’t sound like you’re playing in the same key. I think it’s pretty cool.
@@markgoodwin5306 yup, that's very cool. You're going through the scale with arpeggios which starts to align every note with either the chord underneath it or the tonal center. As you get further and further away from the root those chord tones start to serve more advanced tonal "personalities" up...find some that you really like and analyze them. That always yields great results.
@@curiousguitarist That’s great, that makes sense to me. When you do this, you can literally hear the modes and how they differ from one another. When you get on the fifth degree, you can hear the flat seventh and you’re like, that is classic mixolydian right there. Thanks Chris, I appreciate it.
The best part of note skipping (going in thirds) is you see each chord is just degrees of others.
Like C key; CEGB, EGBD, GBDF, BDFA, DFAC, FACE, ACEG...
Did i hear Evil Ways by Santana in Dorian? 4:17 Minor i to Major IV?
Yeah, Santana uses Dorian a lot!
Helps me to call this the key of G with the "tonal center" A minor (second mode: dorian)
Yup, that's a fantastic way to see it. That helps keep your focus on the progression's sonic "center" while also allowing you to easily see the note pool too. I do this SAME thing all the time.