Why Can't America Build New F-22 Raptors
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- čas přidán 2. 11. 2023
- In addition to these practical reasons, there is also no longer a compelling need for new F-22s. The US Air Force has a fleet of over 180 F-22s, which is more than enough to maintain air superiority over any potential adversary.
The US government is also investing heavily in the development of the next generation of fighter jets, such as the F-35 Lightning II and the Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) fighter. - Věda a technologie
The F22 is realistically for domestic protection. It’s the ultimate air superiority platform. It can obviously also be deployed abroad. But the purpose is to have Atleast 100 of these across America because they can literally intercept and destroy any threat that would come towards America.
Yeah like a Chinese ballon after weeks of spying 😂
WHAT A BS BRAINLESS ANALYSIS. When has American sovereignty ever been CLOSELY CHALLENGED?
THEY ARE CRAP PLANES AFTER SEEING J20 and analyzing their full potential, your government did what they had to.
F35S is a disaster crashing constantly and even GONE MISSING ON ITS OWN.
Typical Americans! "....they copy this and that", but where are your canard wing fighters? Where is your 5G? Where are your hypersonic missiles? Where are your high-speed trains? Where is your Maglev trains being tested in America? These are a few examples. They always steal from you FROM YOUR FUTURE?
Except for the enemies that are already within.
@@sativothegrail461Did you really believe that?
Was Steve key word is was ultimate platform but the world be catching up. Enemy has technology to shoot that shit down kilometres before that airplane gets into striking range. Your interceptor is not as good as it was in the 2005- 2007
There is a reason the f22 will not be sold to other countries 😂…also the reason it has been discontinued is simple, Uncle Sam has something much better slated to roll out.
There is no replacement for the F-22 coming anytime soon. While the Air Force is working on a replacement, it will take 10 to 15 years for it to enter into service. The F-35 started design in 1995, and *it is still not in full rate production* . Also, it can't super-cruise as it was supposed to, and they engines don't have enough cooling problems, so all of the existing AC will need a new engine design. The F-35 is a joke. They did not even use it to bomb in Syria last week, using an F-16 instead. That is likely because it costs $38,000 and hour to fly the F-35, vs $8K an hour for the F-16. AF Would have been better off buying jamming aircraft and 3 times the number of F-16s than the F-35. Just like the F-22, the F-35 may never actually see any meaningful combat against a Tier 1 opponent, and for Tier 2 opponents, you just don't need the F-35.
@@Future-Preps35 I had not heard about this, but I can't say I am surprised. The defense industry really stuck it to the taxpayers on this program.
@@shenmisheshou7002 Lockheed had already started work on the sr71 before the u2 went into service. It would be crazy to assume they weren’t already far into development of the f22 predecessor when the f22 made it to production
@@gumpycognac4505 The F-35 program started in 1995, and the F-35 is still not in full rate production, won't super cruise, and the engines have deficient cooling, meaning that they will have to get a new engine. The overruns and delays in these programs are just not that fast and I doubt that the replacement will enter service an 2030, which is what the Pentagon is hoping. If the F-35 is any indicator, expect full rate production maybe by 2035 or even 2040. (The F-35 is supposed to start full rate production in 2024, which is 29 years after the program first started.)
@@shenmisheshou7002the f-35 is anything but a joke. Jesus how uniformed can you be.
When I was in high school they called this an "air dominance fighter."
Air superiority fighter
They built something to good, to secret and too expensive.
The problem is new systems are always more expensive, but if it had been purchased to original numbers it would have been a slightly more expensive aircraft, but well within the range for a jet of it's capabilities. Further if it had been sold then it might even be very close to the dropping dollars of the F35, but the US Congress decided it was far too important to share and then did not think it was far too important to fully build. The decision was wackadoodle! Even nonpeer nations can get help from peers, just ask Vietnam and the toll taken by Russian AD systems. Now a nice F22 coming in unseen by the then existing or even now existing Russian radar would have SAVED money and LIVES! The decision not to build in number a PEERLESS aircraft was wackadoodle no matter how you cut it. Like Syria now with Russian radar that really are afraid of F22 and F35.
The new 6th generation replacement will be along soon. There is no reason to build more 5th at that cost.
Wait till you see the cost of a NGAD fighter 😊
The moved most of the factory equipment from atlanta to Dallas ft worth they built a Mike long automotive style assembly line and automated as much as it could the birth of the f135 cars new from the f-22 but the f-22 was so expensive 330 million dollars per plane vs 90 million of the f-35
This is great!!
F22 is the pinnacle of air superiority if we use war doctrine of the past (such as being top of class in dog fights), despite being old at this point. It is so beyond it's time, but has no role to fulfill right now unfortunately and is incredibly expensive. An F35 is superior with it's electronics and integrations, but is significantly outclassed by the F22 in aeronautical performance. The problem is that air combat will never get to a dog fight in today's age, at least in theory, which is why the F35 is the much preferred choice.
We already have nearly 200 (which is more than a lot of other countries’ entire air forces), and we’re not currently at war with a country where we’d need a stealth air superiority fighter. By the time we are, the Raptor’s replacement will likely already be in service. Also, even if war with Russia or China were to break out tomorrow, it’s not like they’re incapable of building more if they need to. In other words, the reason we quit building F-22s is bc we don’t that many. Also, it’s still seen as too dangerous to sell to foreign nations.
Though f-22 raptor is a good war mechine but it can be lock by Dassault Rafael so how it is an air superior aircraft lol 😆😆😆😆😆
Yes I have a real cockpit vdo
@@tasleemkhan9034 - You have a video of a Rafael getting a lock on an F-22 with its exterior fuel pods attached (which it wouldn’t take into actual combat). This drastically increases its radar cross-section and reduces maneuverability. You also forgot to mention the 16 other simulated engagements in that series where the Raf got blown outta the sky without seeing hide nor hair of the Raptor even though in all of them the Raf started out as the pursuer. In simulated war games with its allies, the US ALWAYS handicaps itself. The idea being that you never learn anything from winning, but by losing you can see where you’re deficient.
@@CJ-442 my friend you have already mentioned in your comment that raptor is less maneuverable with its fuel pods,i think that if it will face a crucial long renge dog fight it can be locked by enemy fighter jets and don't forget that a mirrage 2k also locked upon it which is not technically advance as morden fighter jets...
@@tasleemkhan9034 The fuel pods are only used for long range flights to move from base to base (as in across entire oceans) because the Raptor’s too big to be carried even on a super carrier, they wouldn’t take the pods into actual combat. The sims with the Mirage were basically the same story as the Raf. The Raptor had fuel pods equipped as a handicap and the Mirage caught sight of them once, the other 20 times, they never saw it until they were shot down. And before you mention it, the Eurofighter also caught a radar lock last month under the same conditions with the odds heavily stacked in the Eurofighter’s favor. I know it sucks that the US keeps all the best toys for themselves, just deal with it.
These planes and other military expenses is the sole and main reason why America has no Free Healthcare... change my mind.
Sad truth.
Another reason is it's gold plated ridiculously expensive price.
Became obsolete THAT FAST! Seriously, the next generation fighter is ready to roll out. The f-35 is not a fighter and carries a minimum if weapons. Its a co-ordinator. A fancy a-wac if you will. Throw in a little eA-6b prowler action and Viola, the f-35. The future of air combat will be an f-35 with 15 reaper drones and 2 of the latest, strictly "fighter" platform(s) for escort. Drones ARE the future, but there will always be a human involved. (Because they HAVE to have someone to blame when something goes wrong!!!!) Lol
We crap on the SU 57 because it's nothing more than an agile beautiful piece of shit.
Corporate guidance to destroy tooling is why.
Beautiful fighter. I always liked the way Soviet/Russian fighters looked with the intakes on the bottom making it look swan-like.
It's one expensive ass way to bullseye Arabs in Toyota pickup trucks.
3:44 "constantly evolving" lol by stealing technology, not making their own. Most of their Army doesn't even have body armor while were are wearing lvl 4, heck many of our people have lvl 3 and lvl 3+
Is the F-22 still based at Hill AFB Utah??
ALSO THE COMPUTER SYSTEM CAN BE HACKED AT ANYTIME. THEY CAN'T FIX IT EITHER
I'm surprised you don't pronounce it as USAF.
But the F22 is my favorite aircraft, i want it back.😐
US Air force is working on unmanned fighters.
Leave to former President Obummer to stop a good thing.
Exactly
It was the Defense Secretary, Robert Gates, who pressured Obama to stop the F22 program. He was nominated in 2006 by Bush. If you wanna blame presidents, you're looking at the wrong one.
Except the costs of F35 ballooned even to greater heights
yes and doesnt meet essential capabiliities like ground attack and warthog already facing scrapping on hand from the senate?
There is NGAD. Anyway, it is needed now, thought is was a mistake then. Thoughts on the Sky Warden?
@@90skidcultist that doesn't make any sense
F-35 is cheaper and with better avionics and range, and adequate stealth. There are no dogfights anymore. It's all BVR. These are designed for a fight that doesn't exist. It's overkill.
@stuartwiner7920 lol wrong, there isn't unlimited missles and the Raptor isn't technically even a dogfighter but it could probably win one if need be. Also it is best to have specialized aircraft that are best in certain roles along with multipurpose aircraft to fill gaps. Also I don't think the F-35 is actually cheaper, the F-35 was a group project and the F-22 was made solely by America so their is a lot you don't seem to take into consideration. There is also a fact that the F-35 has dedicated manufacturing lowering the cost.
@stuartwiner7920 "prepare for the worse and hope for the best". btw what happens with missles fail? Stuff like this is why America wins wars and Russia struggles with "Special military operations". Also the enemy is so scared of the Raptor they leave the area when it is around and when they don't, sadly it wasn't allowed to smoke them without them even knowing like the "You should go home now" incident with Iranian F4s
@@patrioticz2858 It's a fair point, but the budget isn't infinite. They didn't want to spend another $50M per plane when 97% of the fight is BVR. They can fire the missiles off-axis now. They don't have to point the nose at the other plane. The future has arrived.
0:22 Lockheed Mart…
just clickbait with wikipedia infos read out to you. boring.
Because it is expensive.
F22 only kill is a ballon lol
The F-22’s price was the main reason the program was canceled. Granted, that can be attributed to gross mismanagement by the Pentagon as much as anything else. Anyway, the United States still should’ve built more of them because the F-35 has turned into a bust. There’s a reason why every fighter plane built around the world over the last 20 years has been compared to the Raptor, a plane developed in 1990 haha.
Mate the f35 was sure as hell not a bust
@@PeterParker-cd3pz, right? I wonder what this dudes definition of a bust is 😂
Budget busting:..maybe!
Why do U say the F-35 is a bust ? U're joking, right ? 😅
The F-35's development definitely saw complications and cost overruns, but it ended up not being a bust. Just because it's not great in close combat doesn't mean it's a bust. It's a flying supercomputer with unmatched capabilities. It's especially unmatched when you can deploy dozens in any given minute.
Bless our Vets 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
The F-15 EX impresses me more than the F-22.
The F-15 EX is an amazing aircraft. We are putting all of our money into these stealth aircraft that will never face a Tier 1 power in a major military encounter. Stealth is for operations against unsophisticated, non nuclear opponents and for that, you don't even need stealth. You just need a few hundred F-15s. 120 F-15s flew almost 6000 combat sorties (the very vast majority of them being air patrols with no air to air combat). The entire Iraq Air Force was put out of commission in the opening day of the war. They only shot down about 20 Iraq aircraft, and a couple of them were transports. An AV-8B Harrier could shoot down a transport plane.
@@shenmisheshou7002Stealth aircraft are designed for the first punch of any major war, where breaching an enemy IADS is the key to any future successes, or at the very least making life easier. The F-22/F-35/B-2 etc are designed to make a hole in defences, and then the bulk of the ordnance is delivered through that hole by F-15/F-16/B-52 etc. It's not a 'one or the other' approach, it's both stealth and non-stealth working together in different roles to achieve the wider objective.
@@Orbital_Inclinationwe don't need stealth aircraft for that mission at all. Long range air launched cruise missiles from B52s B1b and the newer method of dropping them from cargo planes at high altitude from long distances away from air defenses are the way forward. Saturation of defenses and exhausting the batteries ammunition supplies,them be able to destroy them in full. Hell we could build 747 cruise missile carriers if wanted for fairly cheap. Stealth is a bullshit term used to steal Americans tax dollars. Large fast strategic bombers like TU 160 are perfect for such missions, as are the TU 95 and B52. Russia has long range cruise stealth cruise missiles with a range of over 4000 miles. Stealth means low observability, and it makes more sense to make the projectile with stealth characteristics than the aircraft.
With SAMs becoming more effective all the time, the F-15 EX could not exist without stealth planes to take down the radars. Then the F-15 can deliver ordnance. It's really the moving-truck for bombs after the defenses have been eliminated.
Super jets for wrong era
Thanks Obama, everyone knows that you never had America’s best interests at heart. You decided to cancel production of the F-22 Raptors due to its extremely high cost. But then after canceling the F-22 then you turned around and Built the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter which is going to cost almost
2 Trillion dollars. Which ended up costing the American taxpayer 10 times more than the F-22 would cost. Great job Obama. Dilettante
Actually, the F-35 contract was signed on the 16th of November in 1996 long before Obama took office. The contract for the F35 was supported by both parties of congress and if you understand how government spending bills work, you would know that Congress puts a lot of pork barrel projects in their spending bills and presidents are often forced to take something they don't want to get something they wanted. That is just politics. Congress is more to blame for the F-35 than Obama is. The prime contractor, Lockheed Martin, ensured that important components would be sourced from manufacterers in many different states. This is what the defense industry does when they need to buy a congressman. They find a sub contractor in his district and agree to buy components from that contractor and that means jobs in the congressperson's district, and that means the congressperson will vote for it. It is called "Pork Barrel" politics and it is a basic tactic that has been successfully used by defense industry prime contractors for 50 years.
Wth you on about? F35 so far is successful. It's the new f16
@@diollinebranderson6553 It depends on how you define successful. The engine core is not perfuming properly and they will all have to be replaced with a new engine core. The mission availability is only 52%. They parts are far more expensive than they were projected to be. Flight time per hour is about $38,000 (vs about $8,000 for the F-16) so pilots are not getting the same amount of training time. The F-35 is limited to 7gs while the F16 is limited to 9gs. The F-35 can't turn inside of most other modern air superiority fighters, so it is going to struggle to win a dogfight. The F-35 is so costly that the Air Force is going to have to retire the F-22 to afford the NGAD fighter. It simply can't afford both.
@@shenmisheshou7002many parts of that comment is either wrong or ignorant. For instance, the flight time per hour for f16 is $22,000 and the f35 isn't an air superiority fighter. It's role is MULTI ROLE and INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATION GATEWAY.
Do your research next time instead of pulling things out your arse
@@diollinebranderson6553Have you read the GAO report??? F-35 program is a mess. www.gao.gov/assets/gao-23-106047.pdf
So you are saying that we should not compare it to other fighters because it isn't a fighter? Is it only supposed to be used against other multi-roll aircraft? Will the services get a choice? Will J-20 care if it is a multi-role fighter?
The man that signed an agreement with Iran also signed to QUIT the production of the best fighter jet ever developed.
The man who ignored the North Korean problem.
The man who sold Chrysler to FIAT, only to became the fourth largest automaker in the world.
The man who... well he wasn't really entitled to sign anything because he wasn't even born in the United States. But he magically won his birth certificate.
Small wonder it was THAT MAN.
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Oh I thought it may be because of the chip shortage. Mayhap SchMo BIDUNG could have the chinee send them some keeping 10 percent for him of course.
I personally like the Rafale more than the F-22 but the F-22 is great!
I think the F-22 would beat it 🤷
@@patrioticz2858would without a single doubt obliterate the rafale
@@gumpycognac4505 the F-22 is so stealthy when they play war games with allies they put external tanks and I believe open the bay doors so it is less stealth
@@patrioticz2858 you’re right. They also turn on radar reflector lol. Bay doors stay open during fight sim 💅
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in other words its too powerful and the others coutries begged to stop the program😅
Exactly. Especially pootin 😅
because they are cheap. period.
falling from the sky in ukraine while the f15 is 104-0 in air to air kills
$344,000,000 Each, and has *never been used in combat* . Why would we want to build more?
At this point uncle Sam is just saying fuck around and find out 😂
@@ScrapeBoi1 Well, they will only be saying that for one more year because the air force is defunding training dollars for the F22 in 2024. The F22 cannot integrate into the air to air networking system of the F-35, and it is getting too expensive to fly. Also, the F-35 is running so far above the predicted maintenance costs, that it is draining the Air Force budget. Also, it was realized that the engine used in the F-35 is a flawed design, so all existing F-35s will have to receive a newly designed engine.. So, the worlds greatest plane that never saw combat is going to sit on the apron and rot. The US spent 10s of billions of dollars on the F-22 and the only thing it has ever done is shot down a Chinese spy balloon.
@@shenmisheshou7002 we still sent them over in red October i belive 2018 when Wagner troops attacked American SF at an oil depott, F22 carried out airstrikes against the Wagner convoy. It is pretty upsetting that its only gottem a Chinese balloon 🤦
@@ScrapeBoi1 Neither the Air Force or the Pentagon have confirmed that the F-22 has ever been used in combat and there are no independent sources that have reported the F-22 being used in combat. Now it could be argued that the F-22 served as a deterrence, but it is not clear as to what it might be that it is deterring and there are a lot of other weapons in the US arsenal that have very well established deterrence value. Also, the SA-400 has the capability to shoot down the F-22 (it entered service 3 years after the F-22) so the pentagon would likely not want to expose the expensive F-22 to the very bad press of being shot down.
@@shenmisheshou7002 well it could be argued that the F-22 was built as a deterance for China or Russia, Russia not so much anymore since Ukraine.
Obama…
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No more balloon fighters
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