Loki ENDING EXPLAINED - What Season 2 Means for AVENGERS: Kang Dynasty & SECRET WARS!
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Loki season 2 ended with one of the most baffling--and satisfying--notes of any character in the MCU. But what does this mean for the future? Is Kang going to fight Loki? We explain.
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Finding this channel with a Wandavision episode breakdown was one of the best finds of my life!
Nobody is talking about how the TVA handbook volume 2 color was inverted from the V1 orange version.
One key thing, The kang in Ant man Has a scar on his face. But he who remains doesn't. So they can't be the same Kang if He Who ramains is the future version.
Your prediction is nice.. but u missed something... the timeline branches shown in quantamania is older than loki season 2 finale.. So quantamania is happened before season 2 finale., that means marvel is planning to change the track again... no more auroborous... we can say marvel is also confused at this stage, what to serve.. 😂😂 lets see what happens... I just want to see marvel's ending movie before I die.... 😅
I honestly think this is the one, also how cool would it be if He who remains's temp pad was a slice of the previous loki's horn?
Honestly, this season of Loki got me back into Marvel again. I think it was a good second season.
Thank god cuz marvel was so worried about you being disinterested.
I agree, I didn't get swept off my feet like the first one but I thought it was good.
@@jcarry5214i honestly think no second season or second part of something will ever sweep someone off their feet like the first ones do
@@BlindMIW they are extremely worried about losing their audience right now after putting out so many stinkers recently.
@@cdde854 Usually not, no, of course. But galaxy-ripping turds are common, and just plain subpar is the absolute norm now.
He got his throne not as a ruler but a savior, Tom hiddleston the loki we didn't deserve but the loki we needed, an award winning class act. Unforgettable
He’s never gotten any awards for the role *OR* has ever featured in the opening Marvel title sequence. ☹️
@@ZyliceLiddell he read the assignment and killed it every moment on film, heard that's one reason why some actors don't want to act with him
I really wanna see Thor's reaction to seeing Loki again and finding out what he has become.
He'd be proud of his little brother, I imagine.
Loki : "I've become the god of stories now"
Thor : "Great, I have a daughter"
Loki : "You what?!?"
Probably..
Sadly that timeline has played itself out. The moment Loki became a divergent version, he ceased to be Thor's brother in a sense. The distance between them has grown to such a point that to Loki, he's not that person anymore.
I doubt Loki will ever reveal what he's done, or is doing to Thor - but Thor may come to understand it another way.
Basically Loki is controlling these timelines, which likely means he's created a doppleganger within them that has the power to take it over. The gold we see surfacing is likely power he's siphoning from this, "glorious purpose" playing out. So what is that?
He's very likely returned to being a world-destroying conqueror of worlds. He enslaves these worlds, wrings from them glorious purpose (which is power resulting from him taking that timeline over) and then siphoning that power "up" to the TVA Loki. He does this to create a structure, like the loom, in which all divergent timelines can weave themselves into. These timeline he likely becomes Thanos, Sorceror Supreme and similar things - so much so that these timelines are likely ruined. They become subservient to the rest and within an infinite system, the worlds he turns into vines become those that need to be culled. Kang is still out there as well, which is like a blight on the tree - it needs to be strong enough to withstand Kang's Time War. 616 was mentioned that Kang had already landed there (Quantumania) so they're the front line.
For Thor to meet Loki at this point he'd either need to ally with Kang, and the right Kang, and then even think to know that a variant Loki might to do this.
The most likely way for Thor to meet this TVA Loki would be if he, naturally, found his way there - to the end of time and through the TVA, then he'd have to spend centuries learning how to master the TVA's tech and resulting Kang's blessing to meet him (or weaponized to destroy Loki).
This would be bad - but no matter how it happens, the likelihood that 616 Thor meets 616-variant Loki is very very low. Not impossible, statistics get weird with time travel, but I don't see any way that Thor should meet this Loki... except maybe to free him. If Loki is finally removed from his god-position, it will likely be Thor to do it - or to replace him... but it can't just go back, this Loki would barely remember Thor in a sense after centuries and then millenia's of timelines merging into his consciousness.
So... Loki's more lost than it seems.
Meanwhile... it's much more likely that a side character informs Thor of the truth... and that he likely will never see "this" Loki again.
Though variant-loki's I think will become normal, probably not even played by Hiddleston... people like Sylvie and such.
Basically agents of Chaos feeding "up" power to God Loki who know timelines need to be pruned - not as wanton as Kang's sacred timeline, but instead, using the knowledge gained from all that to weave it like a tapestry. Build on top of God Loki's basic structure - like vines supporting a tree from falling. It won't be pretty, in many timelines "Loki's" will need to win and guide that timeline to where it needs to go, basically like power generator worlds. They'll have to choose when, where, and why that happens - which is where Mobius will become important.
If anyone's going to meet Thor I think it'll be Mobius, because in the end, 616 Thor is unstoppable... and Mobius won't be able to resist forever telling Loki's brother what he's doing and "why" he keeps having to fight variant Loki's from absorbing 616 into his vine pattern. Loki won't be able to spare 616 (probably isn't even looking at them, as picking at random is brutal but fair)...
But I think Thor will become aware that the barriers to Loki are far too great. He's just not capable of understanding this magical and scientific nuance... or doing this job. Thor's too righteous to "prune" like this, he's not suited for him... and he might find it distasteful, knowing Loki's killing worlds for the greater good. That's not his style.
It's somewhat better that maybe Thor doesn't know, because this is far, far too calculated for him to fix. But maybe if God Loki dies down the line, Thor will know then the truth.
... and I think Loki mourns, in a way, himself. He has a kinship with the 616 sacred timeline version, that's "his" thor and "his" life. It was everything he would've done, minus 1 crucial detail that turned him into a variant in the first place. But that 1 detail changes it all.
Chaos is what it is.
... but sooner or later, Thor will know.
@@BigMac8000jfc nobody's reading all of that
@@BigMac8000sorry but your wrong, he was talking to mobius about his brother Thor when they saw the 3 carved statues of Thor, Odin, and baldur before the end of season 2. Besides Loki was already hundreds of years old when he first brought the battle to New York so he would still remember his brother that he spent so much of his life with. He literally just took the throne, the multiversal war is literally on the brink in the horizon and you think lokis gonna sit there for eons and eons? No Loki will be booted out of the citadel at the end of time when the multiverse blows up at the end of Kang dynasty and goes into secret war. Loki won’t have a throne since there won’t be multiple timelines just the one then battleworld. That’s when we will see Loki and Thor reunite.
I just realized, that not only did he change the equation, he changed the fundamental shape of the Multiverse from a flowing circle ororboros, into a torus shape with the tree, as the branches at the top due, they fall back to the roots, and thus back to the branches again
Not really. What if it's the "original" shape. Remember He who remains said "around and around and around we go" what if it's just like na chicken and the egg analogy, wherein, there's really no beginning or end. There was a time that there was no Loom or TVA. Who controls time/multiverse then? What if, this was just part of the cycle? After the war of Kang's variants, once only one remains. That variant will take the power from Loki, and because he's technically only a human. He can't control the timelines the same way as Loki. So he will build the loom and TVA(again). It is basically an eternal recurrence of the same.
@kitnoman reincarnation baby 😉😈
Until the tree becomes a Torus sphere...
@@kitnoman The egg came first. That's how evolution works. Not a very good analogy. :P
he changed nothing. you were not paying attention at all. He literally did what He Who Remains wanted him to do. You were asleep during the final episode clearly. He is in the time loop kang wanted.
I think you put more thought into these theories than the MCU's writers ever do.
Yea haha his videos get me more hype than actual MCU products
Hopefully MCU writers are taking notes.
Well it depend on the mcu writer
some movie/drama like she hulk , hawk and black panther (new one) want to shame all men and making them weak thus getting a bad rep for being a jackass (they said it themselves they hate men).
Here in Loki we can also see strong women with weak men (betrayer, useless, no responsibility) being under their rules (all of them) yet flourish because the actor did a great job especially Tom . The positive is bigger than the negative thus making the show ended in a great way possible.
yeah, and almost always so far from the truth
i think some MCU` writers can def see this and "stole" the idea😂😂
Finally, someone sees the big picture. Kang is destined to beat Loki in our next avengers movie, in an end-game empire strikes back way. He is destined to take over the timeline because he’s already done it. Just not yet.
The multiverse swaps hands between Loki and Kang, over and over and over again, because it’s supposed to.
I’d even argue that the hourglass shape emblem seen at the TVA is a representation of Kangs Rule vs Loki’s rule.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you will be embarrassed when literally that is not what will happen. The ego and narcissism on you, Terak, is astounding.
If marvel wants to introduce doom, I would add something different to your theory. in kang dynasty we would see the change of loki to kang and so on and so on, however in an unexpected turn dr doom would take the throne killing both Loki and all kang variants except one who is the one to become he who remains. This sets up secret wars: In this movie the remaining avengers led by Spiderman, and allied with the he who remains variant would try to take down doom, however doom already knows about this variant and the threat it poses to his multiversal rule and killing it. Through the movie, thor would go through his own journey and becoming the profecized rune king, a prophecy that should appear in Thor 5 so he would defeat doom and take lokis throne and thor wanting to honor his brothers sacrifice and legacy would become he who remains. In a last instance we find out that he who remains managed to revive loki as a failsafe or split loki timeline in 2, one being killed by doom and one surviving. This loki would have remnant of the powers he had as he who remains, being Loki and thor the ones to stand against doom with the help of the avengers. The avengers would fight doombots which posses one of the powers of infinity (a doombot would only posses one infinity stone ability except sould since they have no soul). Secret Wars would end with Loki and Thor becoming those who remains keeping each other company as guardians of the multiverse, reviving the multiverse again together. That would end thor and lokis story since they would remain at the end of time. The birth of the multiverse (in which victor von doom would never become dr doom in any universe) would look like the sun shining on thor and loki through the horizon making full circle with infinity war:
Thor: You once told me the sun would shine on us again
Loki: I never did
Thor: There was a time you did
Loki: well this is no sun, but it is close enough. Are you sure you want to stay with me?
Thor: Loki, you sacrificed enough to save everyone, let me sacrifice everything if it would mean spending the rest of existence with my brother
“Around and around we go” hits different now
@@thebatman7347 lol. Thor 4 was an attempt and goal is to get rid of all white men as heroes in MCU. Doc Strange will be eliminated soon and parker replaced by a nonwhite. Spidey . Hulk is retired and wont be shown again, same for iron man( iron heart now replaces him, shehulk for hulk, hawkeye is now a teen girl, black widow replaced by her sister, captain marvel is the black one we see in new universe of cap marvel 2, captain america is black now and bucky will die. Thor will be offed and made unnecessary. Thor is replaced by the little girl of Gor.
I thought it was to give everyone a fighting chance until they figure something out? Sylvie even said something like “he’s giving us a chance.” Loki is holding the realities together until the TVA can stop kang or to get help since the war is inevitable. Just my thought
That's exactly right! Instead of everything getting destroyed by the time lines, he's holding them together.
The nexus event for Loki and Thor is a nice concept. It would be a reunion Thor never could have imagined. All thanks to the multiverse war coming their way. Thanks to anyone who reads this.
Would be a nice redemption point seeing as the last time they teamed up they lost, and Loki died
My favorite aspect of the MCU is watching breakdowns like these that show how all the properties adapt from the comics. It’s so fascinating and cool that they stay so faithful to the source material.
My only issue and this isn't Loki's fault, is the fact any ramifications or any events that follow this show won't be on a TV screen for......years. Kang or the TVA ain't showing up in Echo. We at least know Deadpool will have something, and then....2025. We will remember Loki now but will we in a year and change 🤣 it's a small gripe but it grinds my gears
same concerns here
Forcing those Disney plus streams smh
He’s presented something of a quagmire here. But it’s all conjecture at this point still.
But there is no chance we would forget Loki or TVA because they are playing key roles in multiversal saga and they are closely connected to kang
Even if they would not appear visually I do not think there is a chance of memory loss or lack of interest.
I’d still love to see The Kang Dynasty & HWR arc come to fruition but I’m growing more afraid they’re already shifting away from them.
In the void you would find Ravonnah and Kang... but let's not forget Kid Loki who needs to get out if he wants to join the Young Avengers. And if they could dig up Throg, that would be cool too.😊
The pet avengers!!!!!! They have lucky already, and goose,
The ending of loki season 2 definitely plays a part in secret wars. Cant wait to see how everything ties together.
Thanks for all the Loki coverage. It’s been a great season and a fun ride to take along with you guys.
Thanks my gay friend
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I noticed Victor Timely is from a branched time line
Yet we saw the young Victor on a different timeline. That can mean the original Victor can still be some form of mence or the start of OB's loop
Victor timely is from the sacred timeline. The only reason there was a branch was because ravonna gave him the tva handbook
@@Yolo_Soloyeah but then what was the plan with Victor Timely? From what I remember HWR ordered to give him this book. Was it so Rennslayer could end up in the Void possibly helping younger version of HWR? Or sth else?
The he who remains version of Kang may not be the best morally but he is better version of himself, protecting the sacred timeline preventing another multiversal war with himself
So well written and such a satisfying end to the season, the show, the character’s entire arc.
I just hope we get an end credit scene showing Rama-Tut Kang setting up a backup plan of having Apocalypse take over for him when he is defeated. Perhaps we even learn that Kang's tech is based on Celestial technology, and the Rama-Tut variant uses SHIP as his base.
That would be a great way to set up future X-Men content.
I wish they use Apocalypse storyline in this. But I doubt it by way Apocalypse is NOT first Mutant. Selene who 17,0000 years old isn't either.
makes me think about the end with He who remains sidepiece. Pyramids
@sophiawilson8696 The mutant species is as old as human kind, as are the Inhumans and Eternals. When the Celestial First Host came to Earth, they created mutants, eternals, and imhumans from baseline *primitive* human DNA. Avengers 10K BC series had a Mutant.
If someone could put together a video montage (in order) of Kang conversations where he so eloquently lays out his plans, I'd really appreciate it
I think this video just explained the entire story line for the next major movies..Makes so much sense..Great video
Except they're leaving out the fact that both Marvel and Tom have made statements saying this is the last we will ever see of Loki.
I hope we get to see Ravonna again; her story arc didn't really ... arc this season. It seems to me her character is in purgatory depending on whether or not they move forward w/ the Kang storyline. If they stick with it, we should see her again. If they change to Doom or someone else, she's just stuck in the void. I would hate that, so I hope they can find a place for her. I love her actor.
She's a beautiful villain
Yeah I’m hoping it wasn’t Alioth we saw at the end. I don’t think it was, we didn’t explicitly see her die so let’s hope she comes back.
@@jontaii152 Any Kang pruned by the TVA 2.0 are going to be there with her. I hope we see a follow up show about the TVA, maybe called "Mobius" or something to continue this story. I can see "Loki" being over, because it focused on his story, but the TVA story should absolutely continue in another project.
@@OstietheGnomeBut what about a show called "Morbius"??
@@detroitdiezel7856 That'd be Morbin' Awesome!
This finale gives me hope for storytelling in Marvel again
I love how Doug's voice comes out when Ryan talks for a bit without catching his breath.
And that’s why when Loki says what makes you think this the first time we’ve had this conversation it caught him off guard
I love how everything about Loki was not like a normal kings clothing, except his crown and it wasn't completely made of gold. his shoes and clothes were very humble. and i think, while sad, he will be happy knowing his friends are alive.
The writing and production on this channel is top notch, good job guys.
Victor timely will come back, he is one of the Kangs that helps build a weapon that burns variants out of time. The “Youngest” kang will see what he has become and will plot against himself to prevent the war. Kinda like secret agent within your own group. Remember how Victor attitude changed as soon as he realized he was responsible for changing so many lives to bad because of his “variant” actions with time.
When joining everybody after her branched timeline evaporated (Mc Donald's / record store's world) Sylvie said : "There's nowhere left to go" and then she HERSELF was sphagetiffied.
This scene put more weight on the problem Loki is facing, considering that Sylvie actually still has HWR's special tempad which allows her to go anywehere and to any moment in history of the multiverses.
Every branched timeline IS DYING 🤯 and the only one left IS the Sacred Timeline that now Loki is capable of timeslipping in.
Loki alone is the one capable to confront HWR and rescue the whole multiverse.
Dont know if anyone has noticed but Loki's new dress on bridge is very similar to kid Loki from void.
Really want more of this dark and serious marvel! 🎉I can’t wait for daredevil and blade please get some philosophy majors on the script make it deep and poignant
Victor Timely: It's like trying to divide by zero, it won't work.
LOKI:" I've been studying for centuries" 😂😂😂
Always look forward to your breakdowns and theories...I'm def more excited for Kang Dynasty after this finale
Who says there will be a Kang Dynasty!
His theory in this video is way off though
In my opinion the whole reason Kang has scars in Quantumania is so the audience knows thats a different Kang.
True, but it may also be a red herring.
He'd easily be able to heal scars if he can control time. Great way to disguise your origin too. This Kang may be He Who Remains thousands, and thousands, and thousands of years ago. They mention in Loki 616 already encountered "a" kang, but who knows which one wins the multiversal war. No telling. Could be any of them, it could easily be the 1938 version who lives this far and this long.
... but given the issues with the actor, they're probably going to audible on that (wisely so).
I think the whole purpose of low-key, taking over the function of the loom is to allow the war to happen, to give everyone a chance to fight just like Sylvie said in the finale
He is giving them a chance to actually fight the multi-verse or war, rather than die, or recede into the sacred timeline
I hope Kang remains in the MCU 🙏
I look forward to your breakdowns as much as I look forward to the TV episodes. About to start the video. Thank you for another great season!
That means a lot, thank you. We're excited about getting to dive deep in the next few weeks while we're between shows!
Now this is an AWESOME theory. Great job and I really hope what plays out comes close to this.
Except they're leaving out the fact that both Marvel and Tom have made statements saying this is the last we will ever see of Loki.
I like the idea of Kang and Loki having a final discussion and Loki essentially writing them both out, I feel like this is the direction they’re heading in, since it would give Loki’s new role purpose and after this saga there’s no need for Loki to still be in the MCU tbh
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What makes more sense than He Who Remains getting tired of not doing much work, is that Tom Hiddleston getting tired of playing Loki for so long. Which I believe he probably already is. And he did a great job ending his characters story in a good place
Thank you. I needed this clarification.
I’m definitely going to BK to meet you guys. I’ve been watching for years and I didn’t know you came to NYC. This is my Christmas present.
I think you right about he who remains fail safe, if you look at he who remains braclet it is made of the same as loki crown in the finale, he who remains also new loki would learn to pause time at some point identical to what he who remains can do, meaning that braclet could be enchanted with loki magic and possibly killing loki at some point to make a braclet and a palace.
Here's one for you, is the sacred timeline THE ONE timeline Doc Strange saw?
I mean technically looking at all different combinations is a probability storm. Right? But I think it makes sense that the one out of 14 million is the sacred timeline
It obviously is/was because as Ravonna said in season 1, episode 1 "What the Avengers did was supposed to happen"
This was the greatest video I have seen yet! I hope everything you predict comes true! What a great prediction and story it would be!
They're leaving out the fact that both Marvel and Tom have made statements saying this is the last we will ever see of Loki.
This season was so deep.. Had to watch each episode at least 2 times.. This channel is so goated 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 very in depth observations 🔥🔥
It makes some sense (that Kang - Loki ever-forever trade), but if it is that way, Kang at some point isn't so ahead like that. In that open-picture vision, Loki is always oblivious of his participation, but Kang, at some point, is aware of the trade and the eons spent on securing the sacred timeline or checkmating his other variants. If just ONCE Kang known he would have to sacrifice for some time to be tired and switch to Loki to come back again and do the same, wouldn't be so intelligent.
Council of kangs were formed bye pruning just Kang variants They all end up in the void which is directly attached to the timeline and Citadelle. That’s why the council could see the timeline. They’ve already figured out how to control Alioth. That’s how Loki got there in the first place. When he enchanted alioth he made it to the end of time. The weather in the Colosseum of kangs. Remind me of the weather in the void also.
I also think that Loki taking the throne from he who remains is what caused the council to be formed. The void is full of Kangs and their tech now that the TVA only prunes kang variants instead of whole timelines.
They already showed us the old avengers tower with Kang’s name on it. They’ve also showed us the pyramid and sphinx that belong Rama, tut
This is so deep lol. I love how many different ways this can go. Lokis storyline had me on edge lol
Broooo your analysis is next level. Always
Loki Season 2 was the best Marvel season of ANY Disney show so far!!
1:12 actually when Loki was saying the complicated science things he said timely’s adaptable exponential computing system. This means that it could scale the look exponentially and adapt to changes. Although even if it’s exponential it’s not infinite, even if it is growing at an exponential rate greater than that of the expansion of the universe to the point that its growing infinitely and the growth is increasing infinitely it still won’t be infinitely large, it never will. Some infinities are larger than others, something infinitely growing will never be as large as something already infinitely large. It’s another kind or paradox just like retro causality!
I always enjoy watching your reviews and theories so in-depth I look forward to seeing more, Just want to ask about something I heard and is it true! That they are replacing Kang with doctor doom?
I just wanna say, I think it'd be highly foolish of them to remove Kang as the big bad of the multiverse Saga. I like Doom and we can still have him supplant Kang at some point for Secret Wars, but they put way to much development and mystery surrounding Kang to just drop him
So they are removing kang??wth
@@martinsaji3671 there's a lot of talk about removing the character completely because of Johnathan Majors legal troubles
@@yoyomayne if he showed up in this, i believe his legal troubles are solved
@@splashnskillz37 they are far from solved, he still has to go to trial
All that has been done with Kang so far can be left as is:
He was a villain in Antman who was killed, and HWR in Loki who crafted his own freedom from a time loop and now no longer exists.
And so there's no need for anymore Kang stories.
I really hope it plays out that way, I hope they dont replace kang over the abuse accusation. After Loki series, im coming around to liking him as a main villain, hoping to enjoy mcu again, and I expect them to muck it all up😅
This would be amazing I love these theories so much better than want we've ever got
That was in depth as heck!
I think Renslayer will be the one who tames Alioth. Kang will find her at the end of time and he will ask her to help him and promise her that they will rule together. She will agree because she wants to escape the end of time and try to overthrow him. I think this because in season 1 ep 6, he who remains is acting like a child until he talks about Alioth. He then gets angry and over emphasizes the fact the he ended the multiversal war, insinuating he did it alone. Note that this is the only time we see he who remains show real emotion. We know kang or any variant of kang doesnt like partners because in season 2 victor timely doesnt want a partner and betrays Renslayer at the sound of a partnership.
Amazing coverage all season!!! I wonder if it is possible that Kang/He who remains is Baldr. They made a point of showing the Baldr statue at the world's fare, and he mysteriously was cut from multiverse of madness. After Ragnarok Baldr is "he who remains", restarting the cycle and in the Norse legends he is specifically killed by Loki (in fact in many ways he could only be killed by someone as clever as Loki). The Asgardian imagery of the TVA and the fact that Thor equated science and magic there from the start (and Loki reached this new level of magic by learning centuries of theoretical science). In fact Loki killing Baldr with a loophole (mistloe) really mirrors his entire search this season for a loophole to He who remains apparent inevitability.
I guess this would make Alioth, Jormungandr.... Instead of physically in an Oraboros like in myth it is in a time based one and if released from the Kang/Loki cycle it will consume everything (maybe it is this very cycle that tamed it ). As it is Loki's son in mythology this fits so well.
Interesting! However man says he from 31 century.
A great video! Thanks
Great video!!
What did you think of the finale?
It was pretty good💯
I try not to think
One of the best MCU stories
Loved it, Loki finally having a glorious purpose
The Shakespearean Tragedy of Laufeyson
I hope what you say will happen,that ending of loki broke me,I think because i see so much of myself in loki.Its like seeing yourself surffer the worst hero's fate
This is amazing observation.
What if the “Secret Wars” ends up being a proxy war between the TVA and the council of Kangs with the heroes and villains from each reality battling to save their respective worlds.Something like a US/USSR cold war analogy, but the twist is that it’s actually a higher level shadow war between He Who Remains and Loki to see who’s version of multiverse solely exists: looping predetermination vs endless choices…order vs chaos…the sacred timeline vs the sacred tree (Yggdrasil)
Which is order or chaos!
It would be awesome to see deadpool ,and loki together .
That makes me want a Loki cameo in the new Deadpool and he’s just watching all the multiverses like a watcher cameo idk could be fun
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In mythology, Loki is tied to the world tree until the end of time, with a snake dripping poison on him to keep him weak - all for being the one to cause the death of Baldur. This is a perfect ending for Marvel's Loki - tied to the tree until the end of time. Perfect!!!
@ColtonHere This was a amazing breakdown. I give credit where credit is due. You know your stuff and that would make a great story satisfying ending and opportunity for a new beginning! Very cool!
11:12 All that would work, but it’d have to end with the Avengers + Kang fighting Loki, who the Avengers believe to still be evil & likely they’d realize he is the Loki that stole the Tesseract in Endgame, and then Kang would betray the Avengers, making himself He Who Remains again.
They’ll probably use Loki to assemble a multiversal Avengers team to take out the big baddy in secret wars whether it’s Kang or Dr. Doom kinda like the Watcher in What If. This show ended perfectly imo and I’m so happy with Loki’s character development from god of mischief to god of stories. They also left an open ending on kang just in case Jonathan Majors is proven guilty on the 29th which gives them options. A true chef’s kiss for this series.
That will never happen
You mean atlas not god of stories
@@ked49 616 Loki was reborn as the god of stories in the comics and his time slipping abilities are very similar but obviously a different MCU spin on his origin.
I hope this is how it goes, it sounds awesome! Also love the continued dismissal of the twitter name change
You and many others like you are literally hanging on to Loki for dear life. After you sat here and tried your hardest to pump up the marvels. Right now it feels like you’re reaching because of it.
U yapping lil bro
We keep talking about all the troublesome Kng variants, but the TBA also stressed there was a constant barrage of Loki variants also constantly causing trouble. How will Loki deal with them trying to usurp his throne?
Maybe Loki can keep his variants in check while he is on the throne allowing free will. It's when Kang is on the throne that they are a problem because Kang is trying to make sure the right Loki comes back for the cycle he created. Just a thought I'm still working on. 😅
the lokis were only a problem because they didn’t obey the sacred timeline. kang variants are a threat because they learn about the multiverse. our lokis job is only to stop the people who would be a threat to the free will of others, which isn’t loki. TLDR; the only people who are a problem now are kang variants
I hope they make this kang dynasty and secret wars simpler because it just feels like homework watching other shows and movies when many people only come to watch the movies just to see all their favorite heroes on one screen this multiverse is very confusing for the average person that doesn’t watch all the series and movies
If you are a true marvel fan you will watch everything that links in and too understand it all. It's good this way and gives alot more detail, people can still come watch purely to see there favourite hero's together but the way they do it is for the marvel fans. They'll never make it simpler which is good
Honestly I hope your theory comes true that would be such an awesome plot moving forward! A lot to look forward to right now with the MCU and I love it!
Except they're leaving out the fact that both Marvel and Tom have made statements saying this is the last we will ever see of Loki.
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Apparently Kang is getting scrapped so nothing lol and I'm upset about it honestly. I feel like it's just bc the real comic guys want Doom so they're scrapping Kang and going with Doom.
They should have brought like 5 major villains together to fight the Avengers!
I hope not, I dig Jonathan majors’ range, and would love to see how he performs if given the time.
They’re switching to Doom. Where Loki is will be where the final battle will be
Wouldnt it be in the Council of Kang's best collective interests to protect Loki from He Who Remains as the core holding the multiverse together; since its due to him that they can exist, and only HWR really wants to make a singular timeline without the rest of the other Kangs.
He literally just summarized the next like, 18 projects or smth. Great video!
When he who remains said “erase all their memories” it did sound an awful lot like what Kang sounded like in quantumania
What if the death of Odin caused Kang to appear and Odin was the original, He Who Remains?
I don't think this is a good theory. It would be so stale to say it would be part of He Who Remains plan again. I know you guys like Quantumania Kang but Mobius saying that the Ant-Man team handled it is basically the writers saying "this guy is gone, stop making theories about him." While I used to think your old theories used to be very plausible, now after the Loki Season 2 finale, I think the mcu is going to go in a completely different way. And just to clarify I don't think Marvel is going to remove all He Who Remains variants from the story, I think they are just going to remove Quantumania Kang from the story.
This theory for the next set of stories is an absolute home run! Great job!
Except they're leaving out the fact that both Marvel and Tom have made statements saying this is the last we will ever see of Loki.
screencrush never fails to surprise me with their explanations.
I think you're giving Kang far too much credit. He's a small minded shyster with big ambitions and power he doesn't deserve, and I think that's all any of his variants will ever be.
Think you are giving him far too little credit.
The throne for he who remains looks like it's been repaired with the Chinese tradition of Kintsugi... Similar to the repair of Kylo rens facemask in star wars... Kintsugi is the process of repairing ceramics traditionally with lacquer and gold, leaving a gold seam where the cracks were... Also, if you pause @14:27 you will see that Loki's horns have the same "repair process" meaning this isn't the first time Loki has donned these horns for this purpose 👀👀👀
Thanks Ryan!
Like how you break it down bro 😎
I love this idea. It works so well
What you theorised here sounds amazing. It would be wild if something like this is what happens.
Except they're leaving out the fact that both Marvel and Tom have made statements saying this is the last we will ever see of Loki.
Love the theories. I'd like for them to happen
“somehow Palpatine returned” 😂😂😂 gets me every time 😂😂😂😂
Damn! That was good!
That Ozark Sylvie reference had me dying laughing. Good one😂.
There’s no way Marvel will manage to write anything as good as your predictions
I love this theory! I had this exact same thought after finishing the show.
Except you're leaving out the fact that both Marvel and Tom have made statements saying this is the last we will ever see of Loki.
Please make a video explaining how all the multiverse events throughout the MCU so far connect to each other (No Way Home, What If, Loki, The Marvels, etc)