The Secret History of the Kennedy Assassination
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- As the 50th anniversary of President John F. Kennedy's assassination approaches, persistent questions still remain. Bestselling author and former New York Times reporter Philip Shenon addresses those questions and more in his newest book A Cruel and Shocking Act: The Secret History of the Kennedy Assassination.
Based on hundreds of interviews and unprecedented access to the surviving commission staffers, Shenon concludes that senior officials of the U.S. government, especially at the CIA, destroyed evidence and lied about the assassination and the events that led up to it.
Chris Mondics of The Philadelphia Inquirer moderates this discussion with Shenon on November 18, 2013 at the National Constitution Center.
If Oswald really was a "lone crazy nutjob," then why not release all of the documents?
@That Retroholic all very good points!
Most of them are released now, and nothing new. It would be interesting to see something on Joseph Milteer, Jack Ruby the plot in Chicago that maybe are not filled under the assassination? Also there was a fax sent, I heard, warning of possible assassination, there was that newspaper 'Wanted' announcement with black trim, was it investigated? What did Ruby know about it?
CIA would be shattered, and US prestige would suffer, but that is the right question to ask because if the official story were true why does the CIA keep trying to hide documents every year such as those involving JM Wave. It’s outlandish that no main stream media tells the truth to this day.
@That Retroholic After all these years? That's a load of BS, and you know it.
As a variation of Occam's Razor, I would suggest that (having worked in government bureaucracy), that one should assume incompetence, laziness, personality, inefficiency, and the closed and secretive nature of any bureaucracy before thinking that that one memo from Thursday's departmental meeting in 1966 is going to prove there are space aliens living among us.
There is so much evidence proving Oswald could not have been the shooter. This guy doesn't mention any of it. He's a fraud.
right. lho tested negative powder burns. he was a patsy. he was set up from the get go...and he realized it
There was soooooo much evidence against Oswald, that it's almost unreal how everything pointed to him, and despite thousands of hours of research, nothing pointed to anyone else.
What load of rubbish, all the evidence points towards Lee Oswald & no one else. Get a real job ya steamer!
This guy is good at promoting his book. Not much else.
Yes. And blaming the grief-stricken widow for the pathetically inadequate autopsy.
He is wrong about so much ...what a waste
Im getting disinformation out of this particular video.
The pristine bullet theory or single bullet theory isn't even possible with the bullet that was said to be "found" on the stretcher.
More metal was taken out of senator Warren than was missing from the fake found bullet!!
A lot of ignorance in this film.
Sorry to have to say.
There's a tree that was there.
This guy says the shot that supposed to have came from the sixth floor was easy..
I'm a gun owner and target shooter since my Boy Scout days and can tell you that there's NO chance one bullet would 1) be pristine after going through two bodies.
2) the metal removed from Senator Warren was more in material than was missing from that obviously planted bullet.
Another bullet hit a man hole.
What they never mention is the United States Notes Kennedy had the Treasury print not going through the private Federal Reserve System. Which meant the private bank couldn't charge interest to the American people. As soon as LBJ took office he recalled all that money that benefitted the people instead of the private bank
No way could that guy who’s sitting on the wall identify Oswald as the shooter from that distance.
@MurderWeSolved "No way" from any distance, could you identify an assassin who wasn't Oswald, even given 60 years time. Perhaps you need another half-century or two.
Did this guy do any real research on the assassination? It doesn’t appear so.
Yes, but he actually studied the evidence, not just read nutjob's books. That said, i will concede he didn't answer a lot of the questions very well. LOL
I think it's really amazing that he makes excuses about covering up the events after the assassination the research the medical team and everything like that
Exactly .
He is covering for the government and he considers maybe this and maybe that but NOT maybe the CIA and FBI were in on it.
Agreed! Altogether, the case is purely corrupt and this /these men are biased. Therefore, this is propaganda.
I've only watched 6 min and it seems like this is another snow job . I'm convinced there was a cover up .
"former New York Times reporter Philip Shenon" Tells it all.
The Warren Commission didnt do any digging, nor did their lawyers. All they did was ask witnesses questions, hand picked witnesses that were never subjected to cross examination and never confronted with their original statements and affidavits.
Exactly! If Arlen Specter was so great why didn't he interview the Parkland Hospital doctors who worked on Kennedy???
@@ballet07
Arlen Specter did interview some of the doctors but by and large he didnt like their answers so came up with hypothetical questions in which the only conconclusion was the answer he wanted. The Warren Commission then turned these answers in to the single bullet theory. 3 of the Warren Commissioners, Boggs, Russell and Cooper didnt even believe the single bullet theory and wanted that mentioning in the Report....Lee Rankin said it would be done but it never was
But then, the Connallys didnt believe the single bullet theory either, LBJ didnt, the FBI didnt etc BUT in order for them to have just 3 shots and all from Oswald....they had to use it.
THEY HAD A LIE FOR THEIR AGENDA. A WHITEWASH YOU BET
@@ballet07 He did question Dr. Perry, but did it in a fashion that lead nowhere.
@@ballet07 Specter did question the Parkland Doctors. He was sent down by David Belin and the Parkland Doctors are the ones that actually postulated the Single Bullet Theory based on the wounds and the positions in the Zapruder Film.
Beyond that you can see Doctor Shaw on film the first day showing how one bullet made all of Connally's wounds.
If Oswald killed Kennedy it meant he shot a rifle a couple hours before apprehended in a movie theatre.
The real mystery is not why would he shoot Kennedy.
Rather why did swabbing his face while in custody show no nitrates were present.
If he did not have nitrates on his face it meant he did not shoot a rifle that day.
So if he did not shoot a rifle why wasn't he released.
And why did a mobster kill him.
Keep in mind there is considerable evidence according to motive, means, and opportunity that the CIA and the mafia killed Kennedy.
And why was LBJ on the floor of the second car in the convoy Before the Shooting Started.
Why, why, why?
Here is my answer.
Treason doth never prosper.
For if treason were to prosper
None would dare to call it treason.
Otherwise we have Oswald's
Own words, I quote him.
"I didn't kill anybody. I am the patsy."
If he himself wasn't murdered
The necessary evidence doesn't
Exist. He would have been acquitted.
And we now see three murders
Were done that weekend.
Kennedy, Tippet, Oswald.
So of course the media had to do its
Cover up and say for decades
How it was slam dunk Oswald did it.
And has spread the lie for over 50 years.
It was a coup. And that is no lie.
amen amen
AMEN ! YOU ARE SPOT ON
Johnson was pushed to the floor of the car by Agent Youngblood after Youngblood heard the shooting start. Paraffin tests are notoriously unreliable and were used primarily to intimidate suspects.
Patsy
@@jameshayden3952 In that case I look forward to you explaining how the guys framing him knew:
- where his guns were kept
- that he would show up at the Paine house Nov 21 so they could pretend he smuggled the rifle
- that no bullets or fragments would ever be found that did not match to his weapons
- he would immediately flee the TSBD and go specifically to his rooming house
- a cop would be driving at 10th and Patton at exactly the right moment for an Oswald impersonator to gun him down
- the cop won't simply get lucky, outdraw and capture the imposter
- Oswald will help frame himself by trying to shoot a second cop minutes later
- they could safely approach and recruit scores of police, FBI, Secret Service, military personnel, doctors, reporters, witnesses, X-ray technicians, whole commissions, and persuade them all to obey illegal orders and make themselves accessories to murder and treason...
The moderator and the guest are both egregiously wrong about the Kitty Genovese murder. In my view, Catherine Pelonero's book about it is mandatory moral reading for them.
This guy is adsolutely part of ongoing cover up, it's blatant!
On CIA payroll much?
Exactly what I was thinking!!!!
And they want us to know it's blatant.
Seeing as nearly 100 million Americans (including myself) believe Oswald did it all by his little self, does that mean all 100 million of us are getting paid by the CIA?. It's like those checks i'm still waiting for from George Soros. Where's my check for being a protester!? I want my damn money!
@@trekkiejunk Well the problem is you haven’t done your research and you’re one of them people believe everything the government institutions tell you you probably figure please or please cause they’re there to help people it’s gonna do with that doctors are Dr. they’ll be leader it’s for social status money and being better than everybody else in their mind out not having to be treated it’s nothing like you think
I can't hear this through. He's lying through his teeth.
I also stopped listening, close to the moment that I smelled fish.
Is there a book you would recommend on the topic?
Interesting method of learning. If what you hear doesn't match with your belief systems, make sure to turn it off so that you don't examine evidence you don't like. It's much safer to stay in your bubble, lest your world come crashing down if you're wrong.
"former New York Times reporter Philip Shenon". What do you expect?
… and we keep hearing how important it is to “read my book”!
At least no telegram link. :-D
It seems every conspiracy theorist has something to sell. Coincidence?
That doesn't bother me. He's a writer. He needs to make a living. If his book were something preposterous, as is so of the books of the fantastist/sociopath, Jim Marrs, outrage about the author's flacking his book would be justified. It isn't. I have always believed Oswald pulled the assassination off entirely by himself, but this "Cubans in Mexico City" matter fascinates every LNH ( Lone Nutter Hypothesizer ) I know.
Vincent Bugliosi's magisterial book, Reclaiming History, slices and dices all of the conspiracy ideas, but even he had to admit he couldn't figure out the Sylvia Odio matter. The brilliant Jean Davison, whose book, Oswald's Game, is a masterpiece of diligence, reasoning, and insight, couldn't figure the Odio matter out, either.
Both of them believed her. I believe her. Bugliosi and Ms. Davison couldn't figure the puzzle out, and neither can I.
Granted, the Sylvia Odio matter is not the same thing as the "Cubans in Mexico City" matter, but to be metaphorical, it shares a lot of the same DNA with it.
I think it's entirely plausible that the Cubans, realizing they had a 21 karat gold psychopath on their hands, might have played upon the pathetic bastard's narcissism, telling him that while they could never acknowledge him, he would be a great hero to the Glorious Revolution of the Cuban people if he were to kill the imperialistic pig, Kennedy. It's occurred to me that they might even have told Oswald about the Kennedys' attempts to get Castro, knowing that if he ever talked about it, no one would believe him.
Oswald, a nihilist, would have been thrilled to have his imagined great significance confirmed with this kind of stuff. The Cubans would have judged it an extreme unlikelihood that he'd ever do it, but would have reasoned intelligently that they could never be seriously implicated in an assassination of Kennedy, and that if they somehow could be, a President Johnson wouldn't risk a nuclear war over it.
Ideas, but valid ones, I think.
Is the graveman of this author's argument credible? I think it is, but in the end, it was still that evil bastard, Oswald, who killed Kennedy.
@@formermpc10 Yes, that Oswald either worked alone, or had anything to do with it, is the ultimate conspiracy theory IMHO
Eh idk about all the conspiracies..
But it is 10000% proven that Kennedy was shot from two different directions. The brain splatter proves it. Now if there is some conspiracy? Idk. But def 2 directions. And def magic pristine condition bullet theory was bs.
From listening to this I now totally believe in a conspiracy!
Yes, why didn't Chris Mondics ask the obvious questions, like:
Why is it unfortunate that everybody can see the autopsy photographs on the internet?
What do you see in those photographs?
Why did Oswald receive $200 per month (corrected for inflation $1670/month) from the FBI? Or is there a reason to doubt that?
Was Nixon mistaken when he said that Jack Ruby had workt for him and was one of Johnson's men? And what about Nixon's note not to investigate Jakob Rubenstein?
What about the taxi driver that brought Oswald and Ferrie to Ruby's nightclub?
What about the people in New Orleans that knew Oswald, Ferrie and Ruby, like Anna Lewis?
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How did the Mauser change in Oswalds gun?
What about the fingerprint of Johnson's hitman Wallace on the box in the snipersnest?
Why was the nitrate test on Oswald's cheeks negative?
Were all the confessions of those people who survived and spoke out lies?
I could go on, but these are all missed questions in an interview with somebody who studied the Kennedy assassination.
Bingo!
@@HvdHaghen Paranoid rubbish.
I just watched a video interview of President Nixon from 1983 and he tells of how and when President Kennedy was shot. The timeline simply does not add up. I can't be the first one to have put this together but here it is. If the Kennedy assassination had just happened and it took 20-25 minutes for President Nixon to get to his apartment and call Hoover. How did Hoover know that Oswald was a communist and had shot President Kennedy? President Kennedy has shot at approximately 12:30pm CST/1:30pm EST. The first national news bulletin of the shooting was transmitted over the ABC Radio Network at 12:36 p.m. CST/1:36 p.m. EST. Dallas police officer J. D. Tippit was shot and killed by Oswald at 1:15pm CST/2:15pm EST. Oswald has finally apprehended in the theater around 1:50pm CST/ 2:50pm EST.
At 12:40 p.m. CST/1:40 p.m EST., CBS became the first television network to report the news. So people in New York heard about the shooting somewhere between 1:36pm EST and 1:40pm EST. Something doesn't add up here! How did the FBI know that Oswald was a communist and had shot the President so soon? People at the airport would have known that the President would have been shot and Nixon would have heard it there. Does anyone else see the problem here?
I do not believe for a second that you accepted Oswald as a lone gunman prior to watching this, and this magically changed you into a conspiracist.
Yep, agree with others who say it is just trying to work in favor of the coverup, after stopping this smelly piece of obvious propaganda after 7 minutes.
I don’t know if the lecturer is trying to provide disinformation or actually believes what he’s saying. But, 15 minutes in, I stopped watching. After having read upwards of 20 books on the JFK assassination most of them exploring conspiracy, this guy already has two things completely wrong in 15 minutes;
1). Oswald likely wasn’t involved in the assassination as a participant but as the “patsy” just as he himself told the press. John Armstrong wrote a book titled “Harvey and Lee” detailing all the irregularities and outright lies surrounding Lee Oswald’s involvement in the assassination. Mark Lane’s series of books on the assassination also does a great job of detailing the impossible journey of Oswald to becoming the assassin with so many irregularities and things the Warren Commission says he did. It’s now 2020 and Oswald’s files and tax records are still classified and unavailable to the public. If Oswald were the true assassin, wouldn’t those same files have been released immediately to prove his guilt?
2). The speaker erroneously says Arlen Specter did a “bang up job” as a member of the Warren Commission. Numerous books that have been written detail how Specter outright chose to misrepresent and deceive the public and anyone who might read the commission’s report. His creation of the “magic bullet theory” is a gross piece of fiction that not only defies the known laws of physics but also logic itself.
So, I appreciate the effort of the lecturer but it’s quite obvious he hasn’t done much truthful research on this subject. He says that he didn’t want to be just another book on the assassination without having something to add. Sadly, he ends up exactly as the countless others who all either intentionally or unintentionally conclude wrongly.
this video is a Deep State produced propaganda
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Me too. I had to stop watching. This guy acted so sanctimonious, so condescending I just couldn't take his arrogance a minute longer.
One other thing on the magic bullet theory- Governor Connally himself said there's no convincing him that he was hit by the same bullet that struck the President. A bullet in near pristine condition found on a stretcher after having traveled through two men. Buy that one & then go purchase the Brooklyn Bridge from some huckster. Don't worry, no one will call you a fool.
@drwestm83 -- Can you site any sources you read that denounced your claims as false? In science, we don't just read things to support our beliefs, we also try to prove our belief wrong. So, i'm wondering what you read that claimed your 2 points are wrong, and then what sources you used to invalidate those claims, and for what reason you trusted one source over the other. Thanks.
Seen this guy on a couple of videos now - still smells like intelligence disinfo. Can't shake the feeling he's try hard to sell us something.
Yes. A book, in fact.
When I saw that this was presented by National Geographic, I fast-forwarded to the middle of the vid to simply confirm my suspicions going in; that this vid would be yet more propaganda BS, and I was neither disappointed, or the least bit surprised.
"I never even attempted to perform any form of systemic analysis, critical thinking or even bothered to listen what arguments or proof is presented to evaluate them in their entirety and only used this opportunity to reinforce my confirmation bias and to anchor my head further up my illogical magically thinking ass, and as I am incapable of rational thought when faced with this subject, I vow never to learn anything factual related to it."
Yeah, sounds totally legit bro. Also, extremely valuable exercise contributing to personal growth.
You should listen to Mark Groubert. Reveals a lot of CIA insider connections in groups like National Geographic, CNN, NYT.
Surprisingly disappointing for a seasoned reporter. It almost seems like he’s playing a role, and badly; he does not know the material.
"former New York Times reporter Philip Shenon". What do you expect?
NYT says it all
No one today can honestly believe Oswald was the lone assassin. Too much information has come to light..
I don't think the patsy even fired a gun that day. He was framed.
@@Perrosiutico totally agree.
amen ! lotta doubt. LHO tested negative for powder burns...
Not unless they are government shills like Vincent Bugliosi and Gerald Posner....
McVeigh and LHO are in heaven shaking their heads, along with a host of others...
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How many times does he admit that the was covered up all the information and the people's work and it was falsified and destroyed and he says it like it's okay we don't need to worry about who did it what the evidence shows we just need to keep it from the people
I don't know if it's because these establishment/statist hacks don't realize the extent of their own brainwashing, or if it's that they just say it to demonstrate their loyalty to the Father of lies.
It was Oswald
Oswald was what he said he was, a patsy, it may have been an imposter in mexico, there are no photos of him there, and the audio does not sound like him
If the Kennedy assassination had just happened and it took 20-25 minutes for President Nixon to get to his apartment and call Hoover. How did Hoover know that Oswald was a communist and had shot President Kennedy? President Kennedy has shot at approximately 12:30pm CST/1:30pm EST. The first national news bulletin of the shooting was transmitted over the ABC Radio Network at 12:36 p.m. CST/1:36 p.m. EST. Dallas police officer J. D. Tippit was shot and killed by Oswald at 1:15pm CST/2:15pm EST. Oswald has finally apprehended in the theater around 1:50pm CST/ 2:50pm EST.
At 12:40 p.m. CST/1:40 p.m EST., CBS became the first television network to report the news. So people in New York heard about the shooting somewhere between 1:36pm EST and 1:40pm EST. Something doesn't add up here! How did the FBI know that Oswald was a communist and had shot the President so soon? People at the airport would have known that the President would have been shot and Nixon would have heard it there. Does anyone else see the problem here?
My impression of that was: why would someone say so suddenly and of convenient excuse (like claiming temporary insanity); especially considering O's smirk. O also seemed like one who already would claim police brutality.
In that case I look forward to you explaining how the guys framing him knew in advance:
- where Oswald's weapons were
- Oswald would show up unexpected at the Paine house Nov 21 so they could pretend he smuggled the rifle
- Oswald wouldn't simply stand out in the street to watch the parade and give himself an ironclad alibi
- no bullets or fragments would ever be found that were not matched to his weapons
- Oswald would immediately flee the TSBD
- a cop would be driving at 10th and Patton at exactly the right time for an imposter shooter wandering the streets of Oak Cliff to shoot him
- the cop won't simply outdraw and capture the imposter
- Oswald would obligingly help frame himself by trying to shoot a second cop minutes later...
@@aaronz7056 -- Careful Aaron. You're using critical thinking there. That's not allowed here. Conspiracies only, no matter what!
The CiA - killed the Kennedys with help from the Mob was an inside Gov job , but CiA also killed Martin Luther king , Malcolm X , an John Lennon who was anti war campaigner in 70's , the main stream media tell lies 🤯
true
The US Government were responsible for Kennedy`s murder ......... that is why most of the documents have never been released to the public .... COVER UP ... from start to finish.
photo’s of Oswald in Mexico City ? Source ? The photos of oswald at the embassy was not oswald .
Bogus, completely bogus.
Naval pathologists knew they had limited experience and had the chief Army forensic pathologist Dr. Pierre Finke assist in the autopsy.
At the very least, what a cool and calculated fellow this Phillip is.
Least for this guy, Phil.....is the most
The elites still think we're stupid.
This guy seems to pick and choose the facts he mentions, also he struggles with some of the basics of the assassination- I.e. distance from snipers nest to JFK motorcade & the fact he said that "it looks like an easy shot". Marine sharp shooters struggled in the time & with moving targets with only a handful achieving. Was not an easy shot evidently.
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You said that there was no way Oswald could shoot 3 times and that's how the magic bullet came about, but that is wrong. There were ABSOLUTELY at least 3 shots fired, as one missed and hit the sidewalk and then hit James Tague. The Warren Commission acknowledged this.. If he couldn't fire 3 shots, due to the Zapruder film, as you say, then Oswald either didn't do it or didn't act alone.
Tague was most likely hit by a fragment from the head shot.
JFK and Connally can be seen looking around after hearing shot #1. Several seconds later they react to being hit by shot #2. Several seconds after that Kennedy is hit by shot #3.
Oswald COULD make 3 shots in about 8 - 9 seconds time. You or I could do it. ALL THE CONSPIRACY BOOKS CONFLATE THE TIMING OF THE SHOTS TO AROUND 6 seconds or less, thereby giving the reader the impression it is an impossible feat.
The conspiracy theorists LIE !!!!
@@rawbacon It hit the Pavement first. What about the piece of curb removed and sealed for 75 years? Many pictures of various policemen picking up bullets out of the grass, no idea what else they were looking for 2 minutes after the shooting. 50+ people ran up the steps to where they believed the shot to have come from. No evidence points to one shooter.
There is a scientific formula for conservation of momentum, I think you will find it's impossible for an object to maintain that kind of momentum while passing through one or multiple objects. He was standing at the left of the underpass over 80 ft from the car, it's highly unlikely for it to be a hit. The Bullet would have needed to pass through the car after hitting Kennedy, if shot from that angle, then hit the pavement, with a fragment of bullet or pavement hitting Tague on the cheek.
Plus, the bullet was coming from the other direction as seen by the impact on the pavement.
More important questions never addressed are: Why did the Secret Service break 15 standard protocols for the Motorcade? Why was Kennedy's personal agent left behind at the Airport? Why are the motorcycles and Secret Service runners ordered back from the lead car?
Why is the President the lead car? Why are no agents on the Presidents vehicle, he has the runner boards in place?
It's a set up. You don't break this many rules by mistake.
@@rawbacon The pristine bullet flew over and hit Teague and then flew over to Parkland Hospital.
In the Book of Revelations it says;
'There will be a great deception in the last days'.
'Satan will appear like Christ'.
Here, you have a perfect example.
If you blieve dubious books, written and re-written and edited by those in power and his their lackies, then you would believe anything - including the Warren commissiona & 911 commission.
Starting at 33:47 "The scientists that know ballistics say that its not all that surprising the bullet wouldn't be more damaged , he had a reasonably good rifle, It was an easy shot"? This guy is full of it !
Chiz! I know! I can't believe it!
He's doing another cover up after all this time??
More grains of metal were found in Governor John Connolly’s wrist than was missing from that supposed magic bullet...so it’s not possible for that bullet to have caused both all wounds...
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They never stop with the gaslighting! czcams.com/video/R96tBbpOHIw/video.html
@@roberthussey595 Wrong.
@Aaron Z .... Governor Connolly was shot with the 7.65 German Mauser found in the book depository...Scientific experiments have been conducted shooting full metal jacketed ammunition into the distal portion of the radius bone(closest to the hand) and none of the ammo came out looking like CE399...the person firing the gun was probably Lyndon Johnson’s personal killer Malcolm Wallace because witnesses have said that they saw someone in the window with horned rimmed glasses...Lyndon tried getting the seating arrangements changed the night before while at the Hotel Texas in Fort Worth...He wanted Connolly-his friend to ride with him and he wanted Senator Ralph Yarborough to ride with Kennedy...There was an argument outside the president’s suite the night before the assassination according to Jackie Kennedy
As soon as he starts talking about Oswald being the only person who shot JFK, that's it goodbye...
Richard Wariner exactly my thoughts. You can gauge people’s level of knowledge by their thoughts on Oswald and his role in the assassination. As soon as the speaker said Oswald did it but that he was part of a bigger conspiracy, I knew he was likely another disinformation agent.
yep
So you have a closed mind about facts you disagree with.
So much for you having an open mind...you are another airhead.
@@formermpc10 facts?
Don't waste the electricity
I find it interesting that on the basis of his book summing up the 9/11 commision, his next act is to write a book on a 50 yr old crime this next that there's 2000 books on already and contrary to popular skeptical belief his thesis ultimately supports the original official conclusion (if the WC is so correct does it really need another book supporting its' conclusion?). Now he pops up on Politico (and quoted in Town & Country of all places) to say that there's nothing to see here in the newly released documents (thanks for figuring that out for us pal!). Highlights: "scientists support {the single bullet theory}" and blaming JFK's grossly compromised autopsy on Jackie Kennedy (if only she hadn't demanded on a navy hospital and been in such a darn rush -she just wouldn't leave until the autopsy was completed!), and is an apologist for Humes burning his autopsy notes (there was blood all over them, and you know, they, might be in a museum someday!), BS about Howard Brennan (complete obfuscation). Interesting Freudian slip at about 32:09, where he says 9/11 commision where he should say WC. The questions and Shenon's answers seem rehearsed. On Jack Ruby his mob connections are "low level connections" - (yeah Sam G was low level! check the phone records before the assassination) And Ruby was "mentally ill", and nothing ever "panned out for him". Oh and the WC investigators are so angry, if only they'd known about the details that came out later, they would have proven their thesis even better.
Evidence that the Aktion in Dallas achieved its goals can be seen in the fact that we are now not allowed by the censors to contradict an obvious agent of cover-up as the author in the video. This is particularly galling for someone whose father died defending the country agaiinst *their* spiritual fathers.
NBC news clip about Dallas: czcams.com/video/Hqo2c_SxQag/video.html
Thanks for saving me from wasting my time on this farce.
Thank you, I concur with you. He sounds ridiculous, and clearly misinformed. Good reason not to waste time reading his book, might use as a reference at the library. Many people planned the murder of President Kennedy, God knows every single murdered soul throughout history and time.
A good preacher will make a statement then back it up with a bible verse.
63 documents the government doesn't want you to know about. Thanks Jesse.
I don't want to hear just talk.
The reason people believe in conspiracy theories is because they're so many conspiracies
Truer words were never spoken. Just Look at Covid and the last two years.
this guy is a mouth piece of the government , everything he's saying is here say .
I never understood the anger people have for people that disagree with them. Just because you don't like that he doesn't buy into the conspiracy, why must he be "a mouthpiece for the government?" In 2022, almost 40% of Americans don't believe in a conspiracy with JFK. Sure, it's less than half, but are you saying 100 million Americans are government mouthpieces? Your logic makes no sense.
"former New York Times reporter Philip Shenon". What do you expect?
Shenon fails to say that Frazier reported Oswald slept in that morning - failed to say that LHO & JFK had each had brand new babies but JFKs had died; and both were Catholic - whole country knew of the tragedy - fails to say that DPD Chief Curry wrote in 1969 that he could never put the weapon in the kid's hands.
Shenon fails to say that Ruby begins stalking Oswald Friday afternoon
Shenon fails period
Our gov is a stinking mess.
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@@noname-by3qz thanks for the link. wonder why i didn't see this on the state run media?
@@mikejones9961
Thanks for listening. You're welcome.
Ha. Because they don't want to risk getting tortured to death.
@@noname-by3qz by Crooked Hillary?
Well I made it 3:59. They were given the conclusion they had to only disclose evidence to bolster that end result. Bravo👏
The Bethesda Autopsy was a sham. The idea that Army Doctors or Naval doctors had more expertise than Parkland who had experience with hundreds of gunshot Autopsies is just patently false. They (the Secret Service) pirated the body and the Limo out of Parkland at gunpoint so they could control the autopsy so that they could ultimately hide the truth. Dulles and Spector worked to come up with one conclusion and one conclusion only. Oswald acted alone and there was no conspiracy. And the only way to ensure that would be the final conclusion was to exclude all other evidence.
The Warren Commission well deserves all the ridicule.
The US Government were responsible for Kennedy`s murder ......... that is why most of the documents have never been released to the public .... COVER UP ... from start to finish.
Wrong. The conspiracy theorists totally deserve it because they LIE ALL THE TIME.
He was barely a Sharpshooter by only 1 point I was a expert By 10 to 20 I was a Rifle Range instructor in the military and still that fast and hit all target All Gunmen were all shooting the same time
He rated highly as a sharpshooter. JFK wasn't even all that far away for a rifle with a scope on it.
@@aaronz7056 he even fired a magic bullet that defied science and logic
@@roynormannlee On the contrary, many computer analysis tests over the years demonstrate the wounds to the victims line up on a perfect trajectory to Oswald's window. (Amazing the conspiracy lucked out there, huh?) The bullet is in a condition (badly crushed nose) consistent with one fired through one body, then tumbling and slowing as it went through a second and really started hitting bone.
If the magic/single/stretcher bullet is a fake, how did this phantom conspiracy know in advance:
(A) That they had to have somebody standing by at Parkland, presumably even before the assassination, with a bullet to plant that could be ballistically matched to Oswald's rifle, or that they had to have already approached and successfully recruited the ballistics boys at the Dallas P.D. to risk their lives and careers becoming accessories to murder as they falsify evidence?
(B) The nature of the victims' wounds even before the limo got to the hospital?
(C) That Connally had been shot at all?
(D) That the bullet wasn't still in his body?
(E) The amount of lead that had to be missing from the bullet so it could plausibly be the one that left a comparable amount of lead in the victims' bodies?
(F) How to get into the locked-down and heavily guarded emergency ward to plant the bullet without anyone ever seeing them do it?
(G) What kind of condition the bullet should be in?
(H) Where exactly to plant it so it could be plausibly tied to Connally's stretcher?
(I) That it won't simply be one bullet too many in evidence and blow the whole plot?
(J) How firing away at JFK's back with multiple guns was not simply and irrefutably going to be shown to be the work of just one shooter?
(K) That it's worth taking such a huge risk planting a bullet just to try making the assassination look like the work of one shooter when any of the above things could so easily go wrong and it would be about a thousand times less dangerous to just let it be shown there was more than one shooter and claim Oswald must have had an unexpected accomplice who got away?
@@aaronz7056 good points.
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There were two Oswalds in the Marines.
Food for thought: Mr. Oswald said that he ate his lunch on the first floor and then went to the second floor break room to get a Coke from the vending machine. His co-workers Charles Givens, William Shelley, Eddie Piper, and Carolyn Arnold were on the first floor with Oswald in the “Domino room.” They all said that Mr. Oswald ate his lunch with them and then went upstairs to the second floor break room to get a Coke.
Motorcycle policeman Marrion Baker and building superintendent Roy Truly both saw Lee Oswald in the second floor break room drinking a Coke.
Victoria Adams and Sandra Styles were on the fourth floor when President Kennedy was shot. They saw Jackie Kennedy in her bright pink clothes moving around in the car. They immediately hurried down the stairs after the shooting took place.
Dorothy Gardner was also on the fourth floor. She saw Victoria Adams and Sandra Styles hurry down the stairs and shortly thereafter she saw Officer Marrion Baker and Roy Truly run up the stairs.
According to the Warren Report Lee Oswald ran down these stairs from the sixth floor after killing the president. According to the testimony of NINE people the Warren Report is a LIE!
The testimony of NINE people back up Lee Oswald’s testimony. He was accused of killing John Kennedy and J.D. Tippits, but the paraffin test conducted by the Dallas police PROVED that Mr. Oswald had NOT fired a gun.
With the testimony of nine people and no gun powder residue on his hands or face any judge would have released Lee Oswald after hearing this evidence. That is why Lee Oswald was murdered so quickly. His death prevented this evidence from being presented in a court of law. You can look up the names of all of these people and read their stories for yourself.
A coup took place when JFK was murdered! People in our government KILLED the President of the United States and people in our government covered it up. The Mainstream News Media still maintains that Lee Oswald killed JFK all by himself.
Another coup took place recently. Joe Biden became president through some very elaborate cheating. The Mainstream News Media said that Joe Biden won fair and square, nothing to see here, let’s move on!
Just as the Warren Report was a lie everything that Mainstream News Media says is a LIE! Our corrupt government breaks the law everyday and controls our corrupt news media. We are in an awful situation in this country! The lies never end! What can We the People do? This corruption has gone on for many years and continues to take place. What can we do?
WOW! I was SO WITH YOU on this... THEN You took up the RUMPTURD "BIG LIE"
YOU are TOO STUPID to be allowed to vote if you REALLY THINK Biden STOLE the Election!
RUMPTURD Helped to Orchestrate a COUP on Jan. 6th. THAT is THE TRUTH
PERIOD!!!
I gave you names. Look them up. Read their stories. Read what they said, not what someone said they said.
Thanks for sharing this with Teresa 💪
I just watched an interview with Roger Craig, a Dallas police officer who said they were instructed to just be spectators and in no way involve themselves with the security for Kennedy. It's hard to believe this writer was unaware of that.
Roger Craig is a Great American Hero in my book.
Roger Craig never said a true word in his life, even conspiracy theorist that knew him said he was a nut.
Among Craig's many fraudulent claims:
(A) He found 3 hulls lined up in a neat row in the sniper nest.
Flatly contradicted by every other officer present.
(B) He saw "7.65 Mauser" on the rifle.
Flatly contradicted by every other officer present (except Weitzman, who freely admitted misidentifying the rifle after only a cursory look at it). Craig only started saying this years after informing the L.A. Free Press he couldn't ID the gun because he "didn't know foreign rifles!" News film shows the gun to be a Mannlicher-Carcano.
(C) He was in the TSBD when cops found a second rifle on the roof.
Flatly contradicted by every other officer present.
(D) He saw Oswald escape the plaza in a Rambler station wagon.
Flatly contradicted by other witnesses who clearly ID'd Oswald on his true escape route, by bus and taxi. Oswald still had the time-stamped bus transfer in his pocket when he was arrested.
(E) He confronted Oswald in Fritz's office and Oswald told him the Rambler was Mrs. Paine's.
Flatly contradicted by every other officer present. FBI and Dallas P.D. records show Mrs. Paine's car was a Chevrolet.
(F) He found a .45 slug in the plaza grass.
Flatly contradicted by every other officer present.
Etc., etc.
The US Government were responsible for Kennedy`s murder ......... that is why most of the documents have never been released to the public .... COVER UP ... from start to finish.
@@johnrees So how, exactly, did "the US Government" know:
(A) where Oswald's weapons were
(B) that he would show up at the Paine house Nov 21 (otherwise they can't pretend he smuggled the rifle)
(C) nobody would ever report seeing unidentified strangers coming downstairs in the TSBD after the assassination
(D) Oswald would immediately flee the plaza
(E) a cop would be driving at 10th and Patton at exactly the right moment
(F) that they need to have an imposter who looks so much like Oswald he can fool witnesses wandering the streets of Oak Cliff
(G) the cop won't simply outdraw and capture the imposter
(H) the guy planting a bogus bullet at Parkland has any idea he's not planting one bullet too many into evidence and blowing the whole plot
(I) that not one cop, doctor, etc., would ever find one bullet or fragment that did not match directly to Oswald's weapons
(J) Oswald would obligingly help frame himself as a lone nut by trying to shoot a second cop in the theater and fighting so violently three cops would be injured just disarming him?
Etc.
THIS GUY SAYS THE 3 SHOTS WOULD BE EASY????????!!!!!!!!
No, what is easy is getting paid millions of dollars to be a hack, a shill, a minion, a stooge for the horrible, degenerates that have strangled our Country.
Idiotic
It is still very relevant, because it changed the course of history. It is important that the people are told the truth of that awful event.
JFK murder solved: The gun/guns did it!
we would probably not have a 911 if we hade held the CIA accountable for this association operation
The four main characters that was planning his assassination was George Bush Sr., Richard Nixon, Howard Hunt, & Clay Shaw.. Nixon had a big mouth and he wanted to tell his closest friends about it he told "George Wallace" the governor of Alabama that's why they tried to assassinate him but after five shots left him paralyzed & in a wheelchair..The only person I know that is still alive is "Felix Rodriguez" he's still living in Miami close friends with George Bush Sr. special forces in Vietnam this guy don't let his looks foul you he was a total bada*s.. I know that George Bush Sr had one of his oil field's in Cuba plus he was passing out machine guns from the USA..to Fidel Castro's men Felix Rodriguez he was the guy that was supposed to assassinate Fidel Castro but that plan was put on hold for some reason..The bottom line the key player was George Bush Sr. and the CIA there was a total of three shooters in three different positions..Why after 60 years is Joe Biden keeping this information from the American public everything is still in the archives some of it was taken out by Donald Trump for the American people but not the important documents..They might keep this a secret forever and we will never know..If Trump wins 2024 maybe then he will pull everything out of the archives and let the American people know exactly what happened from beginning to end so we can put this to rest after all for the 60's he was an American president that cared about the people that's why so many people loved this guy and still care...
You think this author is telling the actual truth? He still claims Oswald did it. I'd like to know the writer's pedigree.
What they never mention is the United States Notes Kennedy had the Treasury print not going through the private Federal Reserve System. Which meant the private bank couldn't charge interest to the American people. As soon as LBJ took office he recalled all that money that benefitted the people instead of the private bank
A police officer by the last name of Baker heard a shot from the book depository. He looked up and saw a rifle barrel poking out a window. The rifle was quickly pulled inside the building. Officer Baker ran into the building and spotted a Mr. Truly. Apparently he knew Mr. Truly and ordered him to accompany him on his journey into the building. They ran up the stairs and in the 2nd floor break room they spotted a man walking away from them holding a bottle of Coke a Cola in his hand. Officer Baker asked Mr. Truly, “Who’s that man?” The man turned around and Mr. Truly said, “Why that’s Lee Oswald, one of our employees.” Officer Baker said, “OK!” Then they ran up the stairs to the other floors. Three female employees were on the 4th floor looking out the window when they heard the shots. Because of the trees blocking their view they couldn’t see what happened, but they feared the worse. Two of those ladies immediately went downstairs to the 2nd floor break room. Who did they find in that break room drinking a coke? It was Lee Oswald. Four witnesses could place Lee Oswald in the 2nd floor break room just a few seconds after JFK was shot. Had Oswald shot the president he would have to have ran past those ladies to get to the break room since there was only one set of stairs in the building and the Freight elevator was not working at the time. The “Powers that be” had two kill Oswald quickly because these 4 witnesses could prove that he was innocent. This author obviously left this important piece of historical evidence out of his book because in his opening remarks he is blaming Oswald. This author is either deliberately misrepresenting the truth or he was too stupid to find it! Either way his book is a waste of time and so is this video!🙄
Hugely inaccurate.
Good job Gordon. I have provided a link to a highly authoritative video that explains every detail of the Conspiracy. czcams.com/video/svDEw3Jgkw8/video.html
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@@aaronz7056 Give us the accurate version then.....which disputes the evidence that Oswald could not have been at the snipers nest at the time of the shots, then made it to the second floor break room, via the only stairwell, unnoticed!!!
@@tuesdayjam5905 This is ridiculous. The two women came down the stairs well after Oswald, who had exactly the right amount of time to make it down to the second floor lunch room and meet Baker and Truly. Who the heck *else* was up there? You yourself seem to be noting no unidentified persons were seen coming down those stairs either...
The author's first assertion that the evidence points to Oswald is wrong.
Next...
I know people like conspiracies, but the evidence against Oswald is overwhelming. Almost staggering how much research has been done, and points all directly to him.
Not true, this is horrible!
🎯. The “Wise Men” did what they were asked to do, here, and again and again.
THEY SHOULD HAVE LET DALLAS COUNTY CORONER, EARL F. ROSE PERFORM THE AUTOPSY, HE HAD EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH GUNSHOT WOUNDS. THIS WOULD HAVE STOPPED ANY CHANCE OF A COVER UP AND PROVEN WHETHER OR NOT THEIR WAS A CONSPIRACY.
It's really not a reasonable position to back the Warren Commission's official version. Every part of this case, has at the very least, an element of doubt about it. If you accept that almost any case will have some anomalies then it would be reasonable, but alas, there is a mountain of aspects that contain serious doubt - and quite simply, you'd have to have some sort of pre-existing agenda to dismiss that amount of contradictory evidence (a few to wit: witnesses who heard shots from the grassy knoll, Oswald's intelligence connections, Ruby's connections, the misidentification of the Mauser/Carcano, Oswald on the second floor, LHO being driven away in a rambler, the shambolic autopsy, the casket being different in Dallas, the timing of the shots, the head of JFK going back and to the left, the acoustic evidence, the unlikely nature of the single bullet theory and many, many more.) All of these individually could be debated and ultimately dismissed but it's just silly to dismiss them all, in fact, it would be bizarre given the massive amount.
what joke.
Three Commissioners disagreed with the single-bullet theory... that seems to be forgotten. Their names were Richard Russell, Hale Boggs and Sherman Cooper. Even Allen Dulles was known to have been less than impressed. The reason: The testimony of Gov. John Connally and his wife Nellie, both testified that the bullet that hit Connally was AFTER Kennedy had already been hit. Yet they still went along with the idea that there was a single shooter, when the evidence they had required more than one shooter. It seems that was dismissed. That alone makes the Warren Commission flawed and more a political document than anything else.
The fact that he can claim with a straight face that Oswald and probably Oswald alone, assassinated Kennedy, quite apart from being depressing in itself, gives me good reason to guess that his book on the 9/11 Commission goes a similar way......
She said they recommended to Jackie to get an autopsy because her husband had been the victim of a crime but just a couple of hours earlier they hosed off all the blood of the limousine destroying the crime scene... I call horseshit
The answer to whether Oswald shot Kennedy is hiding in plain sight. It therefore requires thinking about it two or three times, rather than skimming past; so THINK.
You are Oswald. You either did or didn't kill President Kennedy, and that afternoon only YOU know for sure. If you didn't, then why are you in handcuffs? If you did, then what were your motivations, and what is your mindset as you are now caught?
They take you in front of that "show up" room filled with reporters, and one of the reporters asks, "Did you kill the President?" Oswald says, "No, no one has said that to me," or similar words. He actually looks surprised and then he looks PISSED. (go find the footage) THEN he says, "I'm just a Patsy". You can actually WATCH Oswald's mind in that footage.
Now just think about it. If you just killed the President, you're either going to want to be famous for getting rid of a guy you hate, OR you're going to deny it with some preconceived story. After all, you've just planned and pulled off the assassination of the President. Oswald has nothing prepared. All that he has to offer is what he thinks or KNOWS is the truth- So he says: "I'm just a Patsy".
One more thing, and although you might think it meaningless, it is not. In 1963, NO man is going to easily call themselves a "Patsy". Oswald is going to say, "I was at work". Or "I was at lunch". Why the hell would he jump right to "I'm just a Patsy", anyway? Now you've got to answer more questions- "Who do you think set you up then?" "Why would anyone do that to you Oswald?" AND, you are de-facto implying that you ARE somehow related to this horrific crime. Nope. It all suddenly dawned on Oswald at that "Police show-up" thing with the press, and he blurted out what came to his mind. Two days later they made sure he didn't have the chance to answer those last two questions.
Solid assessment.
Very well though out. His reactions were not those of anyone who shot anyone that day. He knew a lot and was involved in covert actions but was jolted into another world once the intense attention was focused on just him. He had no idea what the hell was going on but knew he was in a trap very soon. Never had a trial yet the word 'alleged' is never employed. He was a dead man as soon as taken into custody.
@@danserdutz6700 I cringe with indignation when they neglect to say "alleged" or "accused" assassin.
@@Perrosiutico this video and the conspirators wanted to brainwash the people, deep state=elite rich people , are no. 1 violators and impugnors of the law,-which are created to subjugate the non-elite rich & middle & poor classes. Presumption of innocence only applies to the deep state and the elite
Given the golden opportunity to address the entire world on live TV:
(A) Does Oswald go berserk, jumping up and down, waving his arms, tearfully screaming his innocence? No
(B) Does he express one iota of horror or sympathy for the murder victims? No.
(C) Does he desperately beg protection for his family, hence making them untouchable? No.
(D) Does he make even the slightest attempt to spill what he knows or at least suspects about a conspiracy, hence making himself untouchable? No.
(E) Does he instead restrict himself to rather passively mumbling away about legal assistance and whine the cop he tried to shoot had the nerve to punch him while disarming him? Yes.
(F) Does his icy silence when his family visits him convince his wife he is guilty? Yes.
(G) Does his only comment to his brother, when he visits him and looks him in the eye, "You won't find anything in there, brother?" which combined with his cat-that-swallowed-the-canary demeanour, convince his brother of his guilt as long as he lives? Yes.
(H) Does he only say "I'm a patsy" in relation to being hassled by The Man for having lived in Russia, and not because he thinks a coup is framing him for assassinating the President of the United States? Yes.
(I) Can he barely keep the smirk off his face even when he knows the camera are on him? Yes.
(J) Is the triumphant look in his eyes in his mugshot positively frightening to look at? Yes.
(K) Is there a mountain of evidence against him even without this press conference episode? Yes.
Is this about finding answers or is it about selling books?
"former New York Times reporter Philip Shenon". What do you expect?
Everybody should read that book
It is a great work for history and of history
Thank you for having dedicated 5 years of your life achieving that great document
But was it the Warren Commisson's fault? They were at the mercy of the FBI and the CIA for key information, and the CIA in particular kept important information from them.
34;30 His discussion of Oswald's presumed marksmanship and his assessment of the Mannlicher-Carcano, which could not even be fired in the condition it was found, is baloney. They couldn't duplicate the shots.
Many have duplicated the shots and the rifle was more than capable of it
AND HE TESTED NEGATIVE FOR POWDER BURNS ON NOV. 22
@@mikelldaley9078 You mean that hugely unreliable paraffin test?
With all the dis-information all we have is assumptions. You know what happens when you assume.
For sure Mafia got nuthin' on our government
Oswald was just a patsy like he said he was. He was framed. JFK's autopsy was a total fraud.
If anything the one in Dallas was
@@Whispangle There was no autopsy in Dallas. There should have been, but the Secret Service broke the law by removing JFK's body from Parkland Hospital. The autopsy at Bethesda was staged to "prove" that a lone gunman firing from behind killed JFK.
@@jonisaacson9253 holy fucking shit dude I literally do not care about JFK anymore (but im starting to believe the "CIA killed JFK" thing though)
amen
amen
This guy is a mouth piece for the government.
The deep state and mic
To explain the magic bullet theory, we have to ignore the doctor who said the neck shot entered from the front, we have to believe that the bullet did not enter jfk's back but 8" higher where Ford just moved it and that Connelly was sitting about 18" to the left where no seat wa and that for some reason the bullet ended up on JFK's stretcher instead of Connelly's leg. .
If the wound in the throat was an entrance wound, where did the bullet go? There's no bullet in the body and no exit wound in the back or neck. Also, the doctor who expressed that opinion regretted it: bullets moving stably (not wobbling or tumbling) can leave round neat exit wounds, and this bullet struck only soft tissue passing through Kennedy's upper body.
@davidgoetz2576 according to rhe secret service agent, the so-called magic bullet was found in the back seat. Instead of investigated, JFKs limo was cleaned and scrubbed. Every piece of evidence is crap because the investigation was so poorly done.
19:30: "What questions would the autopsy photo's have answered, especially in the light of fact that the single bullet theory is so persuasive?" Persuasive, your mother. What a clowns
Anyone who believes the single bullet theory cannot analyze information well
More systematic misinformation. The apologists for the Warren Cover-Up never quit. But now too much has come out. We now have enough information to know it was a massive conspiracy and that it was covered up by people in the very top echelon of the government. They are still holding back evidence. We must continue to DEMAND full release of the documents they continue to hide,
The Zapruder film that we see has been 'doctored'. Why alter the film if Oswald was a 'lone nut'?
I don't know how they could have put such well made editing in such short time.
Doctored many times. Several versions exist
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12 years?
@@compassioncampaigner728 It was allegedly done on the weekend after the shooting.
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12 yrs for the public to see it
Anything that comes out of a New York Times associate is either the party line or total fabrication. This guy obviously buys the magic bullet theory and ignores the exculpatory evidence that shows at least 4 different groups had a solid motive to have JFK murdered.
+Leonardo's Truth DAMN, that's a hell of a good comment!! Like when Newsweek's cover, even before "JFK" was released, ran the story with the headline, "Why Oliver Stone's Movie CAN'T BE BELIEVED." Unreal...
The Magic Bullet is exactly that.
It is pure MAGIC. It is not a real bullet.
There were TWO holes in the windshield of the President's care. So how did a very few shots make a couple holes?
Maybe the MAGIC caused it to make a U turn. The following day the Lincoln had the windshield replaced. It was not a commercial sized glass. The car was a one off custom job.
Two techs replaced it. They crushed the one with the two bullet holes.
This is destruction of evidence in a homicide investigation. The car was shipped overnight to a Ford Motor Company plant where the special car was fabricated. The manager of the Department saw the car and the two techs. The above is what he saw and what he said about it. Are you people seeing the hand of conspiracy to commit murder, a presidential coup, and a cover up. Along with over half century of media lies. And many murders.
Marilyn Monroe. Dorothy Kilgallen.
Mary Pinchot Meyers and Robert Kennedy who ran for President so he could reopen the JFK investigation.
@@chriscrawford7518 Woah! 30 years after the fact and they were still doing what they're told!?Same time frame as OKC...
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@@josephtraficanti689 I''d be a miracle if those involved ever confessed. They're not willing to get tortured to death!
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Yes Laurence, the New Work Times, formerly a newspaper, is a dishonest, disreputable, shill for the billionaires who actually own the Country.
Trump says LBJ now in hell. What does he know on LBJ that public can't know ?
Why does Oswald say he is just a “patsy”? What did he mean by this? Doesn’t this suggest a conspiracy? Oswald was a very average marksman, could ge have pulled off those shots?
oswald TESTED NEGATIVE FOR POWDER BURNS BY DALLAS POLICE ON NOV.22. YES HE WAS A PATSY( SET UP FOR THE FALL )
If anybody bothers watching the whole clip he simply says he was a patsy in relation to being hassled by The Man for having lived in Russia, not because he thinks he's being set up by a sinister coup as the assassin of the President of the United States. Both he and his gun were more than capable of the shooting (which really wasn't that difficult anyway). Some professional hit squad would never have made such a sloppy job of it.
he tested negative for powder burns on nov 22. he was right he was a patsy...
@@mikelldaley9078 Tested positive on his cheek in a paraffin test, also his prints were all over the boxes of the sniper nest, the bag he used to smuggle the rifle in, etc.
@@aaronz7056 Where's the record of him testing positive on his cheek.
He “settled” issues. Frankly think he served a superior intent. Blanket accounting for the lack of historical evidence in an historiographic fashion, attempted to position this book apart from the “lot”, as an impartial review. Note the answer on the credibility of past officials after 41:36. Also body language at 19:00, and the condescending account on Stone’s film.
He showed more respect to that lying con artist Oliver Stone than he deserves.
If Oswald was such a good shot, how did he manage to miss the other guy he shot at the months before the assassination? That guy was a sitting target, not moving in a car.
Terrioestreich - Oswald WAS NOT a good shot! That was CIA propaganda that Oswald was a good shot. Look up the name Malcolm "Mac" Wallace. Then, let's talk.
Now, now! No asking obvious questions that blow the official version out of the water! LOL
If it WAS Oswald who shot at Walker, it was because he'd first been ordered to acquire via mail-order the rifle (so that there would be a paper-trail connecting him to the Mannlicher-Carcano), and then ordered to shoot AT -- but not to HIT -- Walker (because a round from 'his' rifle could then be later linked to this supposed Marxist), with that same rifle being used to fire a pristine bullet into cotton (or into water) so that a 'magic' bullet could be 'found' on a stretcher at Parkland which had rifling marks linking it to LHO's rifle.
The people/forces orchestrating all these events used LHO as an expendable pawn, he being an agent acting under their orders -- just as he had been ever since he was a Marine working for Naval Intelligence and/or CIA. LHO was ORDERED to live where he lived, to get a job wherever he got a job -- especially at the TSBD -- and to unwittingly become the fall-guy for the Crime of the Century.
@@patricktilton5377 Oswald's shot at Walker was deflected by a window lattice, that he did not compensate for...the bullet went over the head of Walker, and imbedded in the wall...it was proven to be fired from the rifle LHO used to kill Kennedy.
@@curbozerboomer1773 Yeah, so Oswald didn't bother shooting multiple times at Walker, so as to kill him, right? Just the one shot and "Oops!" it missed, so LHO scurries away. Right. THAT makes sense!
C'mon, Oswald was doing what he had been ORDERED to do: to shoot a bullet into Walker's place WITHOUT KILLING HIM. Oswald was under orders to fake an assassination attempt against Walker, not realizing that when that MC rifle he'd also been ordered to acquire BY MAIL ORDER -- making it traceable to his 'Hidell' alias -- was used to fire that 'magic bullet' into either cotton wadding or a water-tank, so that the rifling marks on it could be matched to that rifle, it would tie him not only to the Walker incident but also to the Kennedy assassination which, being on the 1st or 2nd floor of the TSBD at the time, could not have been participating in.
Oswald was framed, and he was EASY to frame because he was working for American Intelligence and could be ordered to do whatever the fuck his handlers wanted him to do. He was 'sheep-dipped' and made the 'patsy' for the crime. He was ORDERED to pretend to be a Marxist defector to Russia . . . ORDERED to pretend to be a pro-Castro FAIR PLAY FOR CUBA advocate . . . ordered to APPEAR in public to be a Leftist who hated a right-winger like Walker enough to try -- unsuccessfully -- to shoot him, a stationary target (!), so that his supposed role in shooting JFK could be blamed on Castro and/or the Soviets, so as to possibly trigger an American invasion of Cuba that an outraged public would feel was 'justified'.
If Oswald wasn't working for the CIA and/or Naval Intelligence and/or the FBI (as an informant), then why are his tax returns STILL being kept Top Secret, almost 60 years after the fact? Because he was an expendable asset working for the CIA.
@@patricktilton5377 No evidence he was ordered to do any such rubbish. He missed the target in the dark but thought he'd hit him and made his escape, not realizing the shot had been deflected. Nobody ever accused this coward of being the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Thanks for sharing this with Teresa
Howard Brennan timeline doesn't add up regarding police radio descriptions of "Oswald," let alone that Brennan described the rifle as a "Winchester."
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He said "9-11 Report" at about 33:00.
The researcher Mae Brussel read every employment record of everyone at the school book depository and all of the local businesses owned by the book depository. ZAPRUDER FILM was changed as discovered by Stone and General Prouty.
And, the slide/section of film that was removed shows Jackie…….
There were witnesses that saw one or two shots hit the street behind the limo, they were ignored, a man considered to be the best sniper in the world at the time, could not duplicate the three shots in the time frame using the piece of junk rifle that was supposed to have been used and the scope was off, other experts tried and failed also, only years later under very controlled circumstances was anyone able to. Oswald was not a good shot, other soldiers said he had maggies drawers, a lousy shot and his scores show it, if Oswald wanted fame etc, why did he deny it? He was a double agent and knew what was going on but not a shooter, he was set up, one or two others shot from behind and one from the front, the carcano was planted, it was a Coup D'etat, LBJ gave the ok, the CIA carried it out with help from the mob. If you want a good rundown, read The JFK Asassination Evidence Handbook by Mike Davis
You lost me when you started quoting dialogue from Oliver Stones' B.S. movie.
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They were trying to get a fast moving strain of cancer by way of mexico to someone to kill Castro
Also, look at what Russ Baker has to say about Poppy Bush, big oil interests & the fact that JFK had threatened to disband the CIA (deep state) George W H,s natural home, oh yeh & Dulles had been fired by the President & was on the commission, are you kiddin me ? The commission was a cover up not an investigation !!
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NY Times = Coverup. Arlen Specter highly worth praise. Absolute BS. Not worth watching this.
Magic bullet
DID this guy get his info from the warren commission?
I just read that Oswald was on the 2nd floor of the book building, not the 5th. A witness confirmed that she was in the stair case and saw No one coming down the stairs. The cop that Oswald alledgedly killed had bullets that did not match Oswalds little gun. Oswald may have had some problems with government but I don't think he was able to make a gun shoot from the 5th floor (which witnesses say the shot did not come from that building) when Oswald was on the 2nd floor.
Then all the BS that went on at the hospital for the autopsie, the Drs were kept away, And the mysterious bullet that hit the curb that Dallas police have that section of curb in evidence that the Warren Commission deny the shot happened...
NOTHING MAKES SENSE out of the Warren Commission.
Then the facts about the possibility that Then Vice Pres Johnson was behind it with overwhelming facts of how and why he was involved.
The bottom line is they say the Gov was directly involved with the assassination.
This guy is full of......... nonsense.
Wow, way to present crap that you made up as facts.
You don't know anything about this topic.
"former New York Times reporter Philip Shenon". What do you expect?
Are these guys FOR REAL???? This whole thing is RIDICULOUS and should be categorized as SATIRE!!!! At 32:04, this guy says "THE 9/11 COMMISSION", when he meant to say WARREN COMMISSION!!!! People, watch here on YT, either "James Fetzer JFK at 50, Who, How, Why" or "Everything is a Rich Man's Trick."
Allegedly, LBJ had something on Warren, following is a quote from Russ Bakers “Family of secrets” in the chapter about the Warren report :
Page 46, LBJ in a taped phone conversation with Senator Richard Russell, “ Warren told me he wouldn’t,t chair the commission under any circumstances...he came down here and told me no-twice.And I just pulled out what (FBI Director) Hoover told me about a little incident in Mexico City..And he started crying and he said: I won’t turn you down, I’ll do whatever you say.........nothing to do with starting WW3 !!
lbj was evil. he did change the motorcade order. fact
LBJ's leaning on Warren to chair the commission is a separate issue from the "avoiding WWIII" argument.
It is absolutely CLEAR that the Commission's findings avoided stirring up any controversy concerning Cuba/Russia in its investigation but that is precisely BECAUSE they did not want the public or the press inflamed over the possibilities of foreign interventions into our Democracy & any push for reprisals against those countries. One must remember that our country & the world stood on the brink of total nuclear holocaust & destruction just a year prior. LBJ & our leaders had the great foresight NOT to venture down that road again needlessly.
You should thank them because if they did venture that road, you & I wouldn't in all probability wouldn't even BE HERE to discuss these matters!
So the government wants us to believe that Lee somehow missed an easy - unhurried - simple shot on a stationary target from 75 feet (with nobody around) on April 10 and he hits a moving target twice (once in the head) when there is a large crowd watching and only having seconds to accomplish it from about 250 feet away...As if
Shot at Walker was in the dark, shot at JFK was in broad daylight and the limo was moving slowly down an incline meaning from Oswald's point of view Kennedy's head was barely moving in his scope. As it is, Oswald *did* botch it. He got overexcited and fired too soon as the limo went under the tree branches, the second shot didn't kill JFK outright and almost killed the wrong man instead, and only the third shot was successful.
@Aaron Z ... Governor Connolly was shot with the 7.65 German Mauser that was found in the book depository...the Governor was not shot with Oswald’s cheap dime store rifle... Scientific experiments have been conducted by shooting full metal jacketed ammunition into the distal portion of the radius bone (closest to the hand) and none have ever looked like CE 399
@@roberthussey595 The only rifle found was a Mannlicher-Carcano, as seen in news film. No bullets or fragments were ever found that were not matched directly to this gun.
@@aaronz7056 The shooter was in the dark, Walker was not. He was in a well lit room in his house at night.
Don't stop shillin'. Aaron. You clearly need the practice.
@@duderama6750 ... and it got deflected by the wooden frame. Oswald photographed the house, he took the shot, he left written instructions for his wife what to do if he didn't return home that night, he told her he'd taken the shot, she kept the note hidden in case he tried again, he was disappointed to find he had missed when he thought he had hit him, etc.
That they didn't have the best autopsy experts performing the autopsy along with the parkland doctors there and instead they had doctors who never done gunshot autopsies before tells everything.
Jimy savill
Steve, Cdrs. Humes and Boswell were not autopsy experts, they weren’t even forensic pathologists. They both were classroom instructors. Yes they were doctors but with no medical expertise in doing a legal medical forensic autopsy. They both were ordered by high ranking military officers to perform clandestine post mortem pre autopsy surgery on the President’s body to obliterate all evidence of frontal gunshot wounds. This is a historical fact.
Oswald controlled the relocation of the presidents body, the change in the parade route, the destruction of evidence ,the killing of multiple eye and ear witnesses, the planting of an almost pristine bullet and every other bizarre aspect of the assassination because after all........he acted alone.
@@kenamaro3942 and Oswald had Ruby kill him so only Oswald got the credit. How insane that this could happen and they get away with it ! Every time I see one of these shows, another piece of the puzzle is revealed.
Shenon actually said that Jackie Kennedy chose the location for the autopsy. Does he get a bonus for incredulity?
Why in the heck didn't you record the introductions or beginnings of a bunch of these videos???
Lt Cmdr William Spitzer took CCTV of autopsy. See his story on Spartacus educational website. Other honest medical staff at Bethesda was Dennis Davis on same website. Paul O'Connor on LHO mock trial explains brain removal. O'Connor was rather cryptic.
Total misinformation.
Wasn't photos of Oswald in Mexico City proved to not be him or even look like him very much? That I thought was a false bit of evidence dropped on him to complete his cut out work of being the actual assassin.
The picture of him holding the rifle in the backyard is also complete horseshit,
@@miked9112 No trace of fakery has ever been proved, his wife took the photos and he proudly showed them off.
@@aaronz7056 Wrong , it was absolutely proved the photos were faked/ doctored. The shadows and dimensions were inconsistent Ect. Oswald was ONI asset/ FBI informant and CIA patsy. The CIA are masters of disinformation and subterfuge.Operarion Mockingbird, Mongoose, Z- rifle, Alpha 40 ect. It has taken years and hundreds of books , to shift Tru the threads of truth. On the face of it, Oswald really left convenient incriminating photos, laying around ? Oh, and a shitty WW2 surplus Italian rifle with a mail order paper trail to himself ( aka Hidell). He could have bought a much superior weapon, over the counter, anonymously at numerous convenient locations.ect.
@@halbrooks4654 ... which further demonstrates his guilt and that this was a crime of opportunity. He bought that rifle long before he had any idea JFK would be coming to Dallas, plus he wasn't exactly loaded with money. The photos are not doctored for goodness' sake. It's even a different image of his face in each one. He showed them off proudly to Michael Paine, he had Marina take them with his own camera, the photos are consistent with having been taken by that exact camera, etc.
@@aaronz7056 Your way wrong, Oswald was on the govt payroll, had handlers and case officers. Where were you at the Day JFK was killed ? Every one alive, that day, remembers exactly where they were on that horrific day., except, very strangely, George H W Bush ( SR) and Howard Hunt ( CIA Miami station chief) If you're gullible enough to believe the lone nut, discredited, Warren Commission report, fairy tale. IDK how to even counter your ignoranious assertions
It wasn't,t Oswald in Mexico, have you seen the pictures they released?,they apologised later.
The guy on the right just sounds like Jeff Goldblum from Jurassic Park.
It is true that they are wrong on how the plot went down and who was involved, but interesting in their discussion of the various personnel in the investigation. Especially in the mishandling and destruction of evidence that turned promising paths of inquiry into dead ends. Evidence should be safeguarded for future investigation when new techniques are found and new information developed as is done by your local Agencies. This video is an example of investigation run amok and tainted by incompetence
Balogna!
Does the Secret Service agent saying that he found the Magic Bullet on the rear seat of the limo and that he's the one that placed it on the stretcher, change your view of the Magic Bullet/Lone gunman theory?
"Oswald hunted, had rifles, and it was an easy shot. It must have been Oswald." How disturbing and misleading, @NCC.
So were the x-ray doctored since Warren adored the Kennedy family?
Almost all images were altered.
These two clowns are paid liars.
they were different
the whole thing was a con. warren a joke
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Watched convincing videos to the effect that Oswald was a trained decoy and that there had to be another shooter due to the injury. There are interviews with folks who attest that the windshield was replaced that showed that and so on. What do you think of this kind of material?
There are NO CONVINCING VIDEOS THAT PROVE OSWALD WAS A DECOY. That is a conclusion you formulated on your own.
The windshield is in the National Archives and there's high resolution pictures you can view online.
NO! NO! NO! - These guys are trying to prolong the cover-up. Please tell the truth!
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