Rumors About Why Andre Cymone Left Prince's Band

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  • Andre Cymone was Prince's childhood friend, bass player in his first touring band, and professional rival. I've done some research into why the duo split ways, and you have to watch to find out the whole truth.
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  • @PrincesFriend
    @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety +9

    WATCH NEXT: UPDATE: Why Andre Cymone and Prince Split (In Andre's Words) - czcams.com/video/b-HZad-Hl9c/video.html

    • @shannonstewart4792
      @shannonstewart4792 Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you for this. I've always dug Andre's talent as well as Prince. I used to think and wish they were secretly dating and that they were secretly Bi sexual and that they broke up cause one like women more. (My lil 2 cents lol). But none the less Andre is talented and seemed to dislike the fame that he would've had to endure. Prince took a while yo warm up to the fame as well it seemed. But again thanks for this "Prince Friend".

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 4 lety +1

      Wow! That kind of story would have blown the world up 😂

  • @kiasky1
    @kiasky1 Před 5 lety +24

    There was one thing I feel that set Prince apart from his earlier childhood friends and that’s his work ethic. A lot of his childhood friends had kids as teens. Prince was not about that. He would do anything to be successful and that sometimes meant stepping on toes. His childhood friends had a place to go for support (parents homes etc.) Prince didn’t. He was in survival mode. He was all he had so Prince definitely made the most of it but at a high cost. At the end , he was alone. That part breaks my heart.

    • @TOOREALize
      @TOOREALize Před rokem +6

      That don't mean to step on the toes that once helped lift you up tho.

    • @alvinnelson7539
      @alvinnelson7539 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Andre was his true friend the ego is a terrible thing

    • @krlm2280
      @krlm2280 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@alvinnelson7539💯💯

    • @likeisaidjenkins3689
      @likeisaidjenkins3689 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@TOOREALize
      Until anyone of us walks in his shoes, we really don't know. Prince was looking, and reaching for something that was bigger than anyone imagined. 'Purple Rain' debuted 6 short years after his first album was released. Prince was on a different level period.

  • @OurKindofEntertainment
    @OurKindofEntertainment Před 5 lety +69

    They say that friends should never go into business together because either the business falls apart or the friendship does :/

  • @teresahenderson1797
    @teresahenderson1797 Před 5 lety +27

    Oh, I forgot to mention this. When Prince was on Tavis Smiley’s show (during the Bri days), he talked about Andre briefly and referred to him as “my best friend”. (You can see it on CZcams)

  • @chelsearogers1289
    @chelsearogers1289 Před 5 lety +16

    It was Prince one man band demo that caught Warners attention. Also, Andre's mother brought the two friends back together while laying up in a hospital bed

  • @kelvendyson1508
    @kelvendyson1508 Před 5 lety +19

    Man, there needs to be a proper documentary done on Prince..not a biopic but a documentary with behind the scenes footage. These early early pics are killing me!! Outstanding!!

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety +2

      I’d watch it

    • @BigDeegmail
      @BigDeegmail Před 5 lety +2

      There is one on CZcams that's an unauthorized biography.....that has his cousin Chaz Williams in it, and his first manager, Gayle Chapman, etc.... It's actually on CZcams.

    • @kelvendyson1508
      @kelvendyson1508 Před 5 lety +3

      Big Deelowski1..Yeah I've seen that one...I mean one that's released in the theaters..including footage not seen before, etc. That's the issue now, there are a dozen or so of these internet docs. There needs to be a real doc released because I bet there's home footage of him in his early years!!! Stop with all the internet docs and "Reelz" documentaries!!

    • @troynossmarvel6866
      @troynossmarvel6866 Před 5 lety

      That's what I told my children, when they told me about the biopic

    • @user-lp8gv1ys8v
      @user-lp8gv1ys8v Před 2 dny

      ​@@troynossmarvel6866If what this documentary claims is true, then Prince not only died alone, but reaped what he sowed. I hope he repented before God and asked those he stole from and cheated for forgiveness.

  • @B.Jewels
    @B.Jewels Před 5 lety +17

    I commend Mrs Anderson. She had six kids of her own and willfully added a 7th(Prince) Very brave and kind hearted. According to Andre she would set up gigs for the band. I guess she was acting as manager which is super cool😎. Andre i think your mom is a true inspiration.

  • @teresahenderson1797
    @teresahenderson1797 Před 5 lety +16

    In one interview, Andre spoke of Prince with what seemed like a “distant fondness.”He said in their later years they would see each other from time to time but not often. He recounted the time Prince asked him to come to Paisley and P played some songs for Andre from “Emancipation”. Andre said he remembered it so well because Mayte was pregnant and Prince seemed so happy at the time 😢. He also told a story where P invited him to his show in Ca I believe in 2014 and they played “Dance Electric” together. And you are right about Andre not listening to P’s music, cuz when Andre toured with NPG he commented how he was having to learn many of the songs for the first time. ☔️💜☔️

  • @modifiedcontent
    @modifiedcontent Před 5 lety +23

    The story I've always heard since the 1980s was that Do Me Baby was Andre Cymone's song; not just the bassline

  • @juliettemacdonald5792
    @juliettemacdonald5792 Před 5 lety +25

    You know your stuff. I read that when Andre confronted Prince- Prince replied “I’m the star”!
    So Andre was quitting the band but it was just before a tour. Andre was asked to stay for the tour + leave after.
    Since he was doing Prince a favour he asked for a slight raise but Prince said “No”.
    Andre got so upset he said “I’ll do the tour but if your so tight with your money I’ll do the tour for nothing”.
    And can you believe Prince never gave him a dime.
    Now you felt that Andre was trying to outdo Prince onstage. Andre looked a lot like Prince in those early days.
    On the studio song versions of “Why You Want To Treat Me So Bad” + the other official song videos I noticed Prince singing + dancing around Dez Dickerson, who played lead, but he rarely did the same with Andre.
    Therefore Andre was rarely seen close up or his full profile.
    I thought “Why Is Prince intentionally doing this”???
    I figured that because Andre looked so much like him he would steal some of Prince’s attention.
    It was so upsetting for close childhood friends- Prince to find success + get richer + more famous but to treat a friend you knew so long.
    A friend whose mother took him in, when he had no where to go, fed + gave him a roof over his head, + treated him so well.
    It would have taken so very little to maybe to produce, mix, + release an album of his work, free of charge, to pay him back for all his family + him personally had done for him.
    Andre was very talented + just might have made it- found success.
    And when I listen to interviews with people associated with Prince Andre’s are the most entertaining.
    If he harbours deep hurt he covers it well hidden. He tells the best stories about their early days together.
    They had a concert in Minneapolis + Andre appeared + performed a few acoustic songs of Prince’s- he was excellent + it broke my heart!

  • @trindinwright6374
    @trindinwright6374 Před 5 lety +9

    1969 was absolutely amazing. Point and click, black man in America, and it ain’t much are life altering to me. Thank you for the backstories and a lil shine he deserves. I would love to see you review 1969!! 💜😁

  • @Supernova464
    @Supernova464 Před 5 lety +24

    It’s cool that Andre and Prince were childhood friends. But I didn’t know that they had some differences they couldn’t work out. I’m sure that deep down Andre misses prince and the times that they had together in the band despite the differences they had. It’s a good thing that Andre is doing things on his own. Great review! I give this a thumbs up.😄👍🏻

    • @dewaynewhite2928
      @dewaynewhite2928 Před 5 lety +1

      What's the old saying friends is one thing but money is another, separate friends from money!!

  • @hlnielsen5574
    @hlnielsen5574 Před 5 lety +2

    Always brightens my day when I come home from work and there's a new video. Thanks!😊

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety

      Thank you! Means a lot that you like what we do here. Got more on the way!

  • @Pillar5770
    @Pillar5770 Před 5 lety +7

    Prince and Andre sound like James Brown and Bobby Byrd in terms of their relationships to each other.

  • @annehall5536
    @annehall5536 Před 5 lety +47

    Makes me sad that childhood friends couldn’t work it out... there certainly was time to work that rivalry? out. Life is too short, love and forgiveness is what it’s all about ......💜💜💜

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety +3

      Agreed entirely

    • @russelladams7134
      @russelladams7134 Před 5 lety +1

      It's about conflict resolution. Both parties must understand the problem they have with each other and both parties must get their issue off their chest. Many people don't understand the meaning of friendship. Most people are not a man or woman of their word. People become friends with a person just to get something from you.

  • @stoneblake7938
    @stoneblake7938 Před 5 lety +20

    Great video!!!! I was like a trip down memory lane. Do Morris next!!!!

    • @kennycrockett8202
      @kennycrockett8202 Před 5 lety +2

      Remember, Andre Cymone,s =Living In The Nu Wave from 1982 his debut release, have all of Andre Cymone,s releases,, including some of the ones he produced for other artists still on bass and other instruments

  • @teresaalexander8560
    @teresaalexander8560 Před 5 lety +8

    So sad they couldn't work everything out. Unfortunately they never worked it out after he left. Wished they could have remained friends good friends are hard to come by. Awesome review!but sad.

  • @chironapolonio
    @chironapolonio Před 5 lety +4

    Had it not been for my seeing this video, I probably NEVER would have seen the video for "The Dance Electric" (very cool). Thanks. Prince trivia are fascinating, so thank you for having created this channel and for making your videos.

  • @MikeStone3000
    @MikeStone3000 Před 5 lety +11

    It's kinda scary that both of them thought alike...like they were twin brothers really.

  • @thejimmyjsmoovenetwork7804
    @thejimmyjsmoovenetwork7804 Před 5 lety +16

    The Prince's Vault Confirms He Stoled The Baseline

  • @beautifulstrange7255
    @beautifulstrange7255 Před 5 lety +2

    Thank u for your time making these videos to learn more about the one we love

  • @vincentedwards6330
    @vincentedwards6330 Před 5 lety +5

    I always wondered why Andre left so all of a sudden. I met Prince in San Francisco during the Dirty Mind tour. I was excited about having the opportunity to hang out with he and the band for an entire day. It shocked me when Andre was not there. They told me it was personal issues he had to reconcile. Now I know what they were nearly 40 years later. To bad. However, it worked out for both. Goes to show you how talented those two were to have the success they both had. I never felt their styles were that close with the exception of The Dance Electric. Much like Lewis and Jam, Andre went in an entirely different direction with his productions. Wow! Really good inside knowledge here! Thank you and keep up the good work!👍🏾

  • @ravynpihonak8831
    @ravynpihonak8831 Před 5 lety +7

    Problem is back in 2017 Andre was on Tour and did a show at the Bowery. He did Princes Cult classic "When You were Mine" Live and he said this is for my Friend and Brother meaning Prince. So he can't be too mad especially that song thats always been a Fan favorite. Andre was my Artist of the Week one time and so was Brown Mark Very cool guys to talk to.

  • @Moneytane1976
    @Moneytane1976 Před 5 lety +20

    Yet I think at the same time, despite the bass line, the rest of Do Me Baby is pure Prince seduction, the dirty piano and sexy falsetto vocals are Purple Cream and Perfection.

  • @mmb9391
    @mmb9391 Před 5 lety +1

    I really love when you do these videos! I NEVER knew any of this, and im a pretty big Prince fan LOL!
    PLEASE do more of these!
    Much love ❤

  • @marqosmarqos1201
    @marqosmarqos1201 Před 5 lety +1

    Wow!!!! Great video. Its amazing getting this secret information almost 40 years later.

  • @PharaohLawLess1
    @PharaohLawLess1 Před 5 lety +2

    Good video my brotha and in Prince we trust

  • @MoonlightDawnMoolightDawn
    @MoonlightDawnMoolightDawn Před 8 měsíci +2

    The Dance Electric/Red Light -- I still listen.

  • @auroraskywalker4475
    @auroraskywalker4475 Před 5 lety +2

    This was great and you are on the money about Prince and Andre.👍🏽😊

  • @jackielaversa4191
    @jackielaversa4191 Před 5 lety +1

    Luved this, thanx PF💜

  • @cynthialowery1063
    @cynthialowery1063 Před 5 lety +3

    Prince Friend ❤️LOVE❤️your channel and your passion for all things Prince

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety +1

      Thank you. You don’t know how much that means today. Having a hard day myself.

    • @cynthialowery1063
      @cynthialowery1063 Před 5 lety +2

      czcams.com/video/A1U6wSqMJtY/video.html&feature=share
      Hope this helps..Also sending you a Spiritual hug ❤️Love❤️and Bright S🌞n Shinny Light🌼

  • @valeriewalton2239
    @valeriewalton2239 Před 5 lety +3

    Love me some Andre Cymone!!! One of the songs he made was "Kelly's Eye", that my sister and I just loved!!!

  • @chillwill8596
    @chillwill8596 Před 5 lety +1

    Great video!!!! A lot of insight

  • @locnlode
    @locnlode Před 5 lety +9

    Shortly after Prince's death, I had read an online intererview about Andre' and how he and Prince met and started their first band. I believe that Andre' should have been given due credit and attention for the fact that it was him who discovered Prince before anybody else had ( forget Warner Brothers ) He paid much respect to his late friend despite that they parted their ways. Prince's death must have been quite devastating to even Andre'. I just believe that the two cats had too much talent and that Prince desired the spotlight more than he led on. He didn't just take credit and music composition credit from Andre' but literally stole the show away from Andre'. And I love Prince and the music he put out. But I also take notice of those who also contributed their time and effort such as Rosie Gaines and Dez Dickerson and others. By the way, at the 1:25 mark, I noted a young Jodie Watley with Andre' back in the day when she was with the band Shalamar.

    • @Annabee399
      @Annabee399 Před 5 lety

      Andre Cymone and Jody Watley were married from 1991-1994.

    • @locnlode
      @locnlode Před 5 lety

      @@Annabee399 It's a shame they didn't stay married. But in this business, its hard.

    • @gfanarakos
      @gfanarakos Před 4 lety

      its a character matter...prince was a hard worker....if Andre had/has the guts to perform and produce on his name....the path is open ...opportunities is the key...Prince found that single hole in a very demanding and hard way... which was a small opportunity to convince Warner Bros... that "he is not only good...but the best out there ...and could do it fast and bring money" and then maximise it working to it.... Prince did it ...Andre was a part of it... MJ had his father and jackson 5 could do it with a back up help concrning managers/producers - Motown...Prince was alone, Andre was alone....Prince went to wolves to tell them ...look what i can do and i can do better which is very hard as he was nobody...You can be Einstein or Da vinci but you must sell and during your first steps you are going to fail...till you find how to bring success and be a name of respect...

  • @tapemaster8252
    @tapemaster8252 Před 4 lety +3

    Narcissism ruins friendships, to me ballads is what makes an musician great, andre's upbeat jams are as good prince's , ironic learning about this because prince surged ahead of him in that area(Slow jams), but still salute to Andre Cymone

  • @millier.7694
    @millier.7694 Před 5 lety +1

    Thank U so much 4 this .. I heard so many versions and stories as to what happen to their friendship, so this what very enlightening. So sad, I wish they would have remained friends and continued to work 2gether. It's even so creepy how much alike they look.

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety

      Be sure to watch the second part in Andre’s own words

    • @millier.7694
      @millier.7694 Před 5 lety

      @@PrincesFriend Great, thank U so much :) .. Is it posted on here ?

  • @MrSuperjam789
    @MrSuperjam789 Před 5 lety +4

    Excellent video. I hope you do one in the future about Prince and Sandra St. Victor, where they had a writing arrangement and some of the songs ended up on Emancipation, but Sandra threatened to sue Prince because he didn't give her and her writing partner(Thomas Hammer) credit on the album(although they're on the credits now for the reissues from Sony).

  • @colossus112785
    @colossus112785 Před 5 lety +4

    I read one time that Andre did background vocals on "Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad" but wasn't credited

  • @Michal_Chmielowiec
    @Michal_Chmielowiec Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks 4 bring this story to life! :-)

  • @michaelj.smithph.d.9114
    @michaelj.smithph.d.9114 Před 4 lety +2

    Great job man! This was something I always wandered about; similar to Muzz Skillings leaving Living Colour and Dou Winbush coming in as his replacement. I wish I could have seen the Andre-Prince band. Did they play together on those early Controversy shows around 1981PF?

  • @deeelo5501
    @deeelo5501 Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you. Nice delivery!!I'm still having difficulty dealing w Prince's death but I appreciate your informative professionality; such a nice style.

  • @kimbearlysoriginal4276
    @kimbearlysoriginal4276 Před 5 lety +1

    It is hard when there is two exceptional musicians. Side by side they actually made each other better by trying to out due each other. Competition makes a person better than they already are. Especially when you have the drive they both had. They were more like siblings. Siblings can do and say anything they want to each other. It's to bad they couldn't work it out. Another great video. Thank you.

    • @RnB4Sure
      @RnB4Sure Před 5 lety +1

      Maybe if they all got signed as a band, things would have worked out. I think Andre could accept that. Instead, Prince got a contract and Andre was hired to back up Prince. This is not the career Andre envisioned for himself and it is said that the understanding was that Andre would leave later on and do his own thing.

  • @hodgesmuzick70
    @hodgesmuzick70 Před 5 lety +5

    I hate that these types of things are in his record. He was a true gemini.

  • @lanalyons5206
    @lanalyons5206 Před 5 lety +9

    💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
    Nope you did a good job explaning the
    rift. Prince was a Gemini and they are
    notorious for changing up things in a heart beat.
    💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕

  • @djmylesmatisse
    @djmylesmatisse Před 5 lety +2

    It was Andres THIRD album that has The Dance Electric on it, not the 2nd. Also, Andre said in an interview that he grew tired of Prince getting all the financial accolades while he and the other band members struggled. That also contributed greatly to him leaving.

  • @Justtobewholeagain
    @Justtobewholeagain Před 5 lety +3

    I would of walked too.... real friends don’t do that. I am a Prince fan. Bu now I will check out Andre, his time to shine. I hope it works out for him.

    • @rockssolid7471
      @rockssolid7471 Před 5 lety

      At 60, he's had plenty of time to shine. Prince's music has been a real friend to me through the years.

  • @melissar8304
    @melissar8304 Před 5 lety +8

    It's very easy to spot the FANatics.....that's for sure. Fanatics think Prince can do NO WRONG and if anybody says anything to the contrary..... They're a "hater" LOL.. When in fact we love Prince too, however we don't wear purple blinders therefore we can see things as they really are. It's called REALITY

    • @plmitch
      @plmitch Před 4 lety

      💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜!!!!!
      THIS COMMENT!!!!

  • @masterGAWK9
    @masterGAWK9 Před 5 lety +5

    Good research, it's similar Marley, Tosh and Bunny in the Wailers.

  • @melissar8304
    @melissar8304 Před 5 lety +87

    As much as we love Prince, we can't put him on a pedestal. There have been way to many stories over the years of Prince not doing the best by people he worked with. Mostly not giving credit to others who contributed to songs and albums. That has been a reoccurring theme over the years. JS

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety +11

      You aren’t wrong.

    • @ruthavery8245
      @ruthavery8245 Před 5 lety +12

      If these people help write some of prince songs how come they have not become very famous. These people wanted prince fame and they seem to be jealous of him.

    • @ruthavery8245
      @ruthavery8245 Před 5 lety +8

      @@PrincesFriend you are not a friend of prince.

    • @melissar8304
      @melissar8304 Před 5 lety +5

      @@luv4ever101 i did not say he stole anything. I also stated there have been stories for years, not just after he died.

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety +6

      She’s not wrong that there have been stories for years, no. I’m not here to say whether they are true or not, though. There’s no way for me or really anyone to know.

  • @stern_show_bobo4627
    @stern_show_bobo4627 Před 2 měsíci

    I saw Andre Cymone and his band in the very early 80's (Raleigh NC)... the show was amazing although there were only about 50 people there.

  • @manb4war
    @manb4war Před 5 lety +2

    I don't know that any childhood friendship could have survived the kind of explosive success that Prince experienced. Still something tells me Prince was being a royal scepter here.

  • @fortysomethingbadgirls2173

    Prince did the same with Rosie Gains with Diamonds and Pearls. The man is a legend hands down but, he could be a real ass in the music business. Lol.

  • @mjade1673
    @mjade1673 Před 5 lety +1

    Good job! This was well balanced 👍✊

  • @alluresearlesxxxgalaxyqueen

    Yeah I can see where the time fits in the story prince Morris day having there little riverly makes sense

  • @justmyself1000
    @justmyself1000 Před 5 lety +22

    I think the part that bothers me. Andre's Mother/Father sheltered/fed/clothed/Loved Prince. It seems Prince's bio father didn't. Prince's bio father made quite a few kids and didn't do ANYTHING for them. By Andre's family Loving Prince...that took something away from Andre'. I don't know and don't pretend to know what took place or the dynamics. No doubt Prince had in rough in some respects...had it easy in many other respects. Prince didn't have to answer to anyone. The Anderson family wasn't his own, his father was indolent, his mother easily gave him away and cared for Omar and Tyka. Funny we don't here about Duane Joseph...?...Prince could do it his own way. It didn't hurt that Prince was damn cute ...light skin, glowing hazel eyes tiny in stature fragile looking. Couldn't help but feel sorry for him. But he knew how to use that to his advantage...On one hand...should've given more back to where he came from and to those who got him to where he is...on the other hand...would he have gotten to where he did if he didn't leave those who got him where he was behind....He got to the mountain-top and found he was alone..____life...---...___

    • @RnB4Sure
      @RnB4Sure Před 5 lety +2

      @justmyself. Maybe Prince did give back to the people who helped him. Maybe we just don't know the details about it. He might have even helped Andre when he went out on his own for all we know. I wonder if Andre has said anything about it? Prince is known to have helped lots of people.

    • @mjade1673
      @mjade1673 Před 5 lety +1

      I respect your comment... I think Prince did give back. And i think there were other things that went into him either being alone or looking that way to the world. To no small degree imo, this is because Prince was an mbti entj. And thats all classic entj. That's a whole nother subject tho.

    • @DJHansSolo
      @DJHansSolo Před 5 lety

      are you from the Northside ?

    • @danac2642
      @danac2642 Před 5 lety

      I totally agree. I believe it was all abt becoming rich n famous the early yrs. Of course, most of us become wiser our latter yrs. It was obvious Prince did change too. We all have our flaws n have 2 live n learn though. I really like ur last comment...."He got to the mountain-top and....". So sad.

    • @TJ-rw7jn
      @TJ-rw7jn Před 5 lety +2

      Prince was always helping the Qualified Musicians and singers on his level. If in fact, Andre himself claimed that he was equal to Prince then he was clearly deluded in his mind.
      No one from that Minneapolis camp even seems to come close to Prince's level of Talent so.!!! Andre has talent but so does a lot of other musicians. Even some seasoned Studio musicians had something to learn from this Genius. Prince was nearly unmatched. Also Andre Left on his own accord, not due to Prince. Jealousy is not out of this equation in my opinion.
      Again they wanted the same thing and both had the opportunity for the same thing, Prince had bands Andre had bands, But Who do we still listen to. And The Dance Electric is the only song outside of Let's Work that we even think of Andre. And That was Prince. Sooooooo...........Um..........!

  • @lindacarlson8424
    @lindacarlson8424 Před 5 lety +2

    Good video. Two young guys starting out as equals eager to make it big in the music industry. Each one going for it. It must have hurt when Prince took the lead and maybe some envy/jealousy involved. Prince was driven and wanted total control. Seems like he could be a little s**t at times to people as he was on his quest as a musical genius but we still love him. 💜💜 Can we hear about Morris and Dez?

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety

      Did a Dez video already, do check that out. Morris requires a bit more research. :)

  • @jaymarshall9093
    @jaymarshall9093 Před 5 lety +2

    Man that was deep. I'm sorry that they lost they're friendship behind that. It also shows that in order to make it to the top you got to be a little cut throat. He's still was one of the baddest artists on the planet but damn Prince.

  • @jimsteele2472
    @jimsteele2472 Před 5 lety +3

    I really Love Both of them some time it's hard to blame one or the other both talented in there or right

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety

      Agreed there. I don’t think either is really to blame, just going on different paths

  • @DJMTRAXXX
    @DJMTRAXXX Před 5 lety +1

    Gr8 vid!!!✝️

  • @alluresearlesxxxgalaxyqueen

    So cool great video about Andre cymone and his story on why he left however I find it odd that he would be jealous of prince and I think it's ridiculous if it's true I would hope he would show support not hold a grudge that's just pathetic Because if he really cared for prince and love him he would not be mad just because prince found success

    • @rockssolid7471
      @rockssolid7471 Před 5 lety +1

      Yes agreed, but emotions have lives of their own. Prince was ridiculously talented and truly had it all. But he also couldn't be all... and in surviving and thriving in the super competitive, stressful world of entertainment, he perhaps chose not to please everyone and cut an umbilical chord or two.

    • @mjade1673
      @mjade1673 Před 5 lety +1

      You can be jealous wanting something for yourself or being grumpy without it... without actually not wanting that other person to have that thing you're upset over... There is a line there

  • @dannyclay1967
    @dannyclay1967 Před 5 lety +24

    Here's the reason:
    Prince did all the work and didn't pay much. Prince was a shrewd businessman. He did the production and got all of the royalties. This is why Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis started producing outside of being in The Time. NO ONE WAS MAKING MONEY OTHER THAN PRINCE.

    • @arichmofo
      @arichmofo Před 5 lety +2

      Almost but not quite.... He was Shrewd musician . Those THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN /SYMBOL/,SLAVE years he had to endure and spend getting back control of his music and Image was where he finally ended up getting his business lesson, like many before him .

    • @dannyclay1967
      @dannyclay1967 Před 5 lety

      @@arichmofo that's not the point. Warner Brothers went afoul with Prince because he didn't own his Masters. The situation with Andre Cymone had nothing to do with that. The issue with all of Prince personnel is that they were not getting any royalties. In essence, groups like The Time were just glorified Cover Bands. The actual recording was done by Prince as well as the Production itself. Prince owned everything about The Time under ©Controversy Music publishing. So Andre had no choice.

    • @sheilamiller2818
      @sheilamiller2818 Před 5 lety +4

      @@dannyclay1967 Andre started smoking crack and would loan his expensive cars to dope dealers. I saw it myself. That's real reason and Prince was a super clean water, no drugs etc.

    • @meesalikeu
      @meesalikeu Před 5 lety +1

      SHEILA Miller umm, except for all the drugs that kilt him, meanwhile cymone is alive.

  • @Bryantthewizz
    @Bryantthewizz Před 5 lety +30

    Andre proved he was a great producer when he produced Jody Watley; could've been as successful as Jimmy Jam And Terry Lewis. He had the talent to do so.

    • @datathug
      @datathug Před 5 lety +4

      THAT part. Because Jody's music was slammin.

    • @Bryantthewizz
      @Bryantthewizz Před 5 lety +2

      @@datathug "Still a Thrill" off that album was slammin'! I would put that one against any funk tune out there. :)

  • @DerekPool
    @DerekPool Před 5 lety +2

    Such a shame that those two great musicians parted ways but it led to their success. Prince became a star and so did Andre in a way. He became more than Prince's ex bass player when he was doing his own stuff.

  • @karencarbonaro7264
    @karencarbonaro7264 Před 5 lety +4

    Thank you 4 posting.
    "Welcome 2 The Dawn''

  • @lorenharris2965
    @lorenharris2965 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Good post.

  • @GangstaMojo
    @GangstaMojo Před 5 lety +5

    Didn't Andre mess around with Vanity before he hooked up with Jody...I recall them dating around the Dance Electric days

  • @michaelangelotaylor8th

    Great commentary...

  • @Purpleprincee
    @Purpleprincee Před 3 lety +1

    👀👀🙏✝️💜🥰👍🏼 great channel !!!! Love prince 🤴

  • @marquestravae8614
    @marquestravae8614 Před 5 lety +3

    Just for clarity, "The Dance Electric" was on Andre's third album not the second...

  • @pamela0673
    @pamela0673 Před 5 lety +1

    Will there be a special Christmas Prince episode this year ?? I'm compiling a list of songs for the numerous parties I'm going to next month.💙 Very insightful as always P.F.

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety +1

      Wasn’t planning a Christmas special, no. But I hope you have fun at your parties. :)

    • @pamela0673
      @pamela0673 Před 5 lety +1

      @@PrincesFriend I'm having difficulty finding a Christmas Prince song? Did he actually ever write one? Help.

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety +1

      I don’t think so

    • @pamela0673
      @pamela0673 Před 5 lety +1

      @@PrincesFriend Thanks.😁

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety +1

      I’m not of the opinion that having the word Christmas in the title makes it a Christmas song, since it’s not actually about Christmas.

  • @psykomystro
    @psykomystro Před 5 lety +6

    Would've been nice to see them blossom together... They could've been funk's Jagger and Richards or Lennon and McCartney!

  • @bel8774
    @bel8774 Před 4 lety +1

    Its always been the revolution listen on partyUp...the whole band and prince said revolution baby rock&roll going uptown baby i dont wanna die i just wanna have funky good time

  • @hopefullady5051
    @hopefullady5051 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks!

  • @SNYPASTYLZ
    @SNYPASTYLZ Před 5 lety +1

    The baseline from Do Me Baby was really from an Eddie Hazel song. I forgot the name of the song tho. It’s here on youtube

    • @RnB4Sure
      @RnB4Sure Před 5 lety

      It also sounds very much like Aretha Franklin's "Angel", a song released in 1973. Someone on here said this was settled out of court. Maybe Prince or Andre came up with it and didn't realize it was someone else's music already recorded.

  • @antimonycup7066
    @antimonycup7066 Před 5 lety +1

    Great stuff. Another 'thing' I've always been curious about is if there was any real animosity behind Jesse Johnsons recording of Do Yourself A Favor. Do you discuss this in any of your videos perhaps?

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety +1

      I don’t think I have. Jesse would require a whole other video

    • @antimonycup7066
      @antimonycup7066 Před 5 lety +2

      @@PrincesFriend I'm a very patient man

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety +2

      Ask and you shall receive... eventually lol

  • @christophertracy383
    @christophertracy383 Před 4 lety

    He left after 1999, he was in the video and he was also in the Purple Rain movie. Remember the Modinaires?

  • @TheKLove1972
    @TheKLove1972 Před 5 lety

    I know this is off topic, but I like their outfits at :40.

  • @rockssolid7471
    @rockssolid7471 Před 5 lety +14

    Baby, Prince was a star indeed, but he was also a master of his craft, a true artist and innovator; he also worked his ass off. It is too bad Andre stopped listening to Prince’s music… he missed out.

    • @thetruthhurtsu
      @thetruthhurtsu Před 5 lety +1

      do you really think he stop listening to prince's music?

    • @arichmofo
      @arichmofo Před 5 lety +4

      Yep !! ..... Andre was that dude in the 80’s up in the club, on the dance floor with both fingers in his ears and shouting .... “ LA-LA-LA-LA !! “ whenever a Prince song came on ...:-)

    • @thetruthhurtsu
      @thetruthhurtsu Před 5 lety

      @@arichmofo Sure and when he got home, he threw on *Purple Rain* and said to himself *"DAMN I SHOULD HAVE NEVER LEFT PRINCE, NOW I HAVE TO BEG HIM FOR A HIT RECORD"* LOL You could not escape Purple Rain, and if that wasnt enough, there was *ATWIAD Parade Batman Lovesexy Sign Of the Times* and you honestly think he turned off the music when prince songs came on? he went out and purchased every prince album when they were released LMAO

    • @blahblah606
      @blahblah606 Před 5 lety

      There isn't much Prince music after Dirty Mind worth listening to anyway. Of course Purple Rain is classic but after that it's all downhill. I dig what he did with his off shoot artists, Sheila E, Jill Jones, Mazarati, but wasn't feeling the albums under his name.

  • @shlidgn90
    @shlidgn90 Před 5 lety +1

    There is an actual podcast with Andre Cymone talking about his career. He said that they were still friends. And I thought it was Let’s Work bass line was Andre’s.

  • @jstewart480
    @jstewart480 Před 5 lety

    Good video I don't know how much is accurate but the song The Dance Electric was on Andre's 3rd album not the second one. That's the only error I know of here. Would love to hear some sound bites to authenticate some of this.

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety +1

      You can check out my follow up video as well

  • @heavymetalheaven8802
    @heavymetalheaven8802 Před 4 lety +2

    “Who’s gonna believe you” 😭👏🏾

  • @garfieldharrison510
    @garfieldharrison510 Před 5 lety +1

    Sorry I didn't mean to link any links to my personal music on your page in the commentary. One of your subscribers requested. I'am a Prince Friend as well. I see a lot of your videos and comment always fairly and appropriately. Prince's music along with other artists influenced my trajectory. A lot of the information you share about Prince I knew already. Anytime you are ready to endorse people who has been influenced by Prince on one of your reviews..we can talk. I wish you all the best and thanks for keeping Prince's work and his legacy alive. What you are doing is awesome.

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety

      No problem. I usually remove straight up links, but if people ask for it - give them what they want right? Thanks for watching and have a great one!

    • @garfieldharrison510
      @garfieldharrison510 Před 5 lety +1

      @@PrincesFriend Someone did ask me yesterday in your commentary. I did ,but it was removed I think.. I actually wanted you to view it as well. If you have a Facebook Page. I can do that. Because, I have a business page as well. Your reviews on Michael's work and Madonna was also awesome. By the way I live in Europe as an American Citizen. I've seen Prince several times live over here. Guess what I've seen. The Sign O the Times Concert Live back in 1987. So I listened very carefully to your review on the movie. It was very accurate. Anyway, we definitely going to keep in touch. May you live to see the dawn... Blessings.

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety

      It may have been caught in the spam filter. I’ll go check it out. I appreciate the kind words, for sure. There’s a FB page, in addition to Twitter and Instagram for the channel definitely.

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety

      Just checked the spam filter and there's nothing there, but I specifically didn't delete your posts. Checking further, your links and comments are there and visible, so I'm not sure why you were having problems seeing them. Cheers though! Keep on keeping on!

  • @darkbluebossa
    @darkbluebossa Před 5 lety +3

    1969 is indeed a great album. Very well produced.

  • @kimgomes4197
    @kimgomes4197 Před 4 lety

    Andre, said in one of his interviews, once Prince🎸 made it,he would go on his way !!! His word's!!!! Andre💜

  • @whendovescry2000
    @whendovescry2000 Před 5 lety +2

    Actually it was for Cymone's third album that Bernadette Anderson asked Prince to contribute.
    I think you may have forgotten that Prince neglected to give Cymone any print credit on his albums even though Cymone contributed. There's an interview where Prince says that there was a typo and Cymone's name was omitted (by accident?). I think this was the first album.
    If you listen to the track " Just As Long As We're Together" even though this was noted as being recorded exclusively by Prince, you can clearly hear Cymone's voice. Just as you can when Cymone sings the closing part of Uptown.

    • @dr.kingmessanger1196
      @dr.kingmessanger1196 Před 5 lety +1

      Pause u telling me Prince didn't write UPTOWN

    • @whendovescry2000
      @whendovescry2000 Před 5 lety

      @@dr.kingmessanger1196 My reference to credit is not exclusive to composing/writing it is also use of and display of talent. If I played drums on a song then my name should appear in the credits of the liner notes.

  • @jaysonbiggs8979
    @jaysonbiggs8979 Před 5 lety

    All artists step on people to reach the top. All of 'em.

  • @DJWOLFLIVE
    @DJWOLFLIVE Před 5 lety +2

    It reminds me of the McCartney-Lennon era where things took for the worst even though together they were awesome

  • @smilinjack87
    @smilinjack87 Před 5 lety +3

    This is a good video although I do think several things aren’t mentioned that should be. The first being that, from the jump, Prince was always the star. When Prince was signed to WB as a solo artist and Andre agreed to join his band, I don’t think Andre realized that he was going to be playing second fiddle to Prince in those situations. But that’s exactly what happened. Prince was never signed as a band; Prince and Andre were never signed as a duo; PRINCE was signed. As for the music, Andre admitted that the two of them routinely borrowed from one another because they were close, so it sounds like it wasn’t one-sided. It’s funny tho that Andre won’t admit which songs contain aspects that he stole from Prince. In addition, musically, “Do Me, Baby” shares A LOT in common with an Eddie Hazel song, and Andre even admitted begrudgingly in another interview that Prince changed the lyrics, only keeping one or two lines from Andre’s original, which oddly enough we still have never heard lol. But I think the biggest reason Andre left was that he wanted a career of his own. I don’t agree that they were all equally talented. I definitely think Prince was the bigger talent and he had a bigger drive to succeed than the others. I remember stories from their shows where they talk about Prince walking around the stage, telling them all what he wanted them to play and any adjustments he wanted them to make. Plus, Prince was a far better songwriter. Moreover, look at how each of their solo “careers” developed compared to Prince’s and then ask yourself whether or not they’re equally talented lol

  • @laurenmungaray3912
    @laurenmungaray3912 Před 4 lety +2

    Why did Prince's dad kick him out of his house? That's so depressing....

  • @theprolificnetwork4670
    @theprolificnetwork4670 Před 5 lety +3

    Andre still alive I thought this was going to be an interview of his reasons why and it's a shame that Prince and Andre became Rivals because had things gone differently maybe they would have been the next Lennon and McCartney and Looking Back Now Andres early albums were really Prince music because now when you listen to Andre today you hear a distinctly different sound.

  • @chelsearogers1289
    @chelsearogers1289 Před 5 lety +4

    Andre was supposed to produce The Time.

  • @techynerdygypsy1731
    @techynerdygypsy1731 Před 5 lety +1

    Nice job

  • @Activation1111
    @Activation1111 Před 5 lety +6

    Did Andre come up with the bass line to ‘Lets work’?

    • @PrincesFriend
      @PrincesFriend  Před 5 lety +4

      Not sure. I guess anything is possible

    • @TheTSGA
      @TheTSGA Před 5 lety +6

      @@PrincesFriend It's true. It was originally called, "Let's Rock." He spoke about It In a podcast. Controversy(the bass line) was his song as well.

    • @joldschool64
      @joldschool64 Před 5 lety +3

      Yep he did

    • @BatmanisBatman
      @BatmanisBatman Před 5 lety

      No one knows for sure it's all speculation. Just because andre said he did doesn't mean it's true.

  • @kennycrockett8202
    @kennycrockett8202 Před 5 lety +2

    Andre Cymone and Prince,,were both on the same level of hardcore funk with an mix of nu wave and punk music, in my opinion going left field two like that can throwdown is hard to be in an band, knew about the shade between Prince and Andre, there was something said that Andre discovered The Time, that Prince took over the band, there was Alexander O Neal /who was the first lead singer for the Time, then something went down between Prince and Alexander; Morris Day became lead singer Andre was there when all this went down, along with the bass lines said stolen, Prince and Andre were like brothers and brothers always in time come back together have all the Andre cds and the Girls CD he produced in 1984, both had an different sound u can tell when Andre was throwing down the bass was heavy, also the nu wave and punk genre is mixed with hardcore funk the same thing happened to the Isleys Brothers the younger brothers wanted to go solo with hardcore funk mixed with heavy metal the older set wanted to do just mellow slow cuts then in 1984 it happened, Isley Jasper Isley was Ernie, Marvin, Chris/the older set was Isleys Brothers led by Ronald; later on there were various groups of Isleys they had come back together as brothers Marvin and O Kelly have passed R. I. P.,, the Music business is hard as hell to survive in I believe Andre Cymone always felt Prince as his brother and Prince did the same thing it is about time that Andre is getting props now for Andre is the other half creator of the MPLS sound We lost Prince,s but we shall have Andre that is so very close to Prince as both are brothers, like the vid the Dawn is here, welcome to the Dawn, ps there is an rumor that Rick James stolen Prince,s keyboard on that tour in 1980, in getting back at Rick James, Prince took Vanity from Rick James and produced Vanity 6

    • @nicholasgargano7396
      @nicholasgargano7396 Před 5 lety +4

      Yes you can actually hear the synths he stole on street songs!

    • @reddylizzie
      @reddylizzie Před 5 lety +2

      Vanity never knew Rick James. She met Prince and Rick James at the AMA in1980, both stated that she was their wife. They met once again when she was seeing Adam Ant. Later, when she became a christian, someone asked her about Rick James .She stated "don't believe everything you hear".

    • @kennycrockett8202
      @kennycrockett8202 Před 5 lety

      @@reddylizzie , yes it is wild how this shade between Rick James and Prince is told in different ways, but what is known is the synth Rick James took from Prince that made Prince mad as hell with Rick James, remember the James Brown concert in 1990 before Rick got locked up, he did not want to be on stage with Prince and James Brown and Michael Jackson,, I like both Rick James and Prince there was some good music in that period from this battle, u have the time right 1980, an lot of rumors stories about that day, like your reply

  • @mslisten5577
    @mslisten5577 Před 5 lety +2

    Yeah it's kinda SAD, friends where Prince was able to stay at his home and all and now the Big Split, all I can say is that it's just Sad.

  • @TooSkinnyKenny
    @TooSkinnyKenny Před 5 lety +5

    Good info but wouldn’t it have been better to just let Cymone speak for himself? He is still here you know.

  • @marcushenderson6871
    @marcushenderson6871 Před 10 měsíci

    Saw a interview with Andre and he said he ask prince could he 4 or 5 songs of his own on prince new album ! Prince said know! That was the main reason why he left the group!

  • @lllewis2506
    @lllewis2506 Před 5 lety +1

    This was a great video. Sad if they both were pioneers they could of combined as a duo but sad ego stops ppl success and im not surprised if prince stole seems to have alot of that going on from successful artist years later u hear about them being sued for taking someone they knew entire song lyrics or a beat etc smh

  • @blairfranklin7320
    @blairfranklin7320 Před 9 měsíci +2

    To my knowledge he left because he wanted his own band from the start but decided to support Prince until he was ready to leave. He never intended to be with Prince forever.

  • @aaronj.brooks1977
    @aaronj.brooks1977 Před 5 lety +1

    I heard he was fired that’s what I heard so many reports I just don’t know, but this was a good video story 👍🏽